Great introduction to Keyframe. I can see the reason for moderating the speed between keypoints, particularly if they are close, or involve complex moves, as basic physics can make a particular route unachievable at higher speeds. My hope is that as they develop Keyframe, you'll be able to bump up the speed commensurate with the distance between keypoints and vary from fast to slo-mo, point-to-point.
@@29mailman Indeed, and I did that numerous times. Except, it gets tricky with things like sweat or moving vehicles/situations. For example, while running and riding solo, I had my phone with me, and trying to do those while getting the slider to *exactly* the right position is tough. Of course, if you're sitting shooting something else, then it's easy/trivial.
Another great review Ray. Seriously Skydio is miles ahead of the competition on their tracking, so it is odd they set such a low speed limit on this new keyframing feature. I think if it can get to around 30-45km/hr even just in bursts this will be a killer feature for adventure sports videographers. Will be keeping my eyes pealed for your update when they make it happen 😉
The shot at 13:30 is beautiful! I don't know why you tend to talk down the video quality of the Skydio. It may be average compared to DJI, but it certainly is capable of some very above average captures! Thanks for all you do, Ray. Cheers!
Thanks! Indeed, it's a good shot cinematically, but it's still heavily underexposed. I shot that at 2PM and had the exposure increased by +1.0. And, that's with big sun flares breaking through the clouds. It should have been far brighter. Now, in brighter light conditions, the difference between the Skydio and DJI series isn't as obvious. Cheers!
Yet another fantastic video Ray! Thank you for freezing out there to bring us your amazing content ;) It’s like watching myself (well kinda) as I love cycling, drones & Amsterdam. Just checked out your Skydio 2+ video a minute ago. Hopefully you’ll get that bird up in the sky soon. Love your work.
Keyframes looks like it might be a very useful feature for the Skydio 2 plus, once they get all the bugs worked out. Great video Ray, thanks for sharing.
Would be really cool if keyframing and active track were integrated so the camera would orient and swivel to follow a subject while executing the keyframe maneuver.
A new function to try. After owning my Skydio for about 9 months I still struggle with it, probably because I am a novice drone pilot and am trying to make the Skydio do things its not designed for. I have a few times where the drone just does its own thing (like flying down and stopping along a cliff), which I then have to manually recover and always think I will lose the drone. I also find its hard to get long distance shots, even when using the beacon. The drone is a bit heavy, particularly with 3 batteries, which makes it a clumsy when I take it along for cycling, MTB, and running. For that reason I just purchased a DJI mini. But for tracking its awesome. Get great shots on MTB. I do find it time consuming to change batteries, which then requires to reconnect everything - drone, phone, beacon, and GPS. Be nice is there was some way to do a hot swap. Keyframes looks interesting, but like cable it will take me a will to figure out and master. And drain my 3 batteries each time in the process.
Thanks for always in depth vid! The thing that sucks with Skydio, is that it got promoted by consumers and not business, and for free! suddenly, after they have become famous they have turned to the big business forgetting or rather neglecting us consumers, that actually brought them fame. Now allot as you, yourself described in the vid, there are things you can do with the enterprise edition software, that we ordinary consumers dont get in the app. I get it that they need to differentiate between the enterprise solution and the private consumer solution, but not by functions that should be available to us private consumers as well. We helped them become popular and in demand in the business area, now I feel to put it mildly they give us the middle finger!
Just want to let you all knwo that for case landing you need to tap on the yellow circle or it wont land on the case even if it says so. Skydio told me this after my drone hit the side of the pro case.
Great video, I am sure Skydio will fix these small things if possible. How did you get the Skydios? I am in Austria now and if I want to order, there is no option. So I guess I need to ask a friend over in the USA to buy it for me and ship it?
Cycle faster and nail that keyframe, or wait missed it, but the running was on track ;-) I sold my Skydio 2 last month, and not sure this feature makes it worth buying again but glad Skydio keep on innovating!
Thank you for the truth! Every other video regarding the new skydio and its features only shows all the praise not the truth. The truth is it's a new feature and it's good but not great
Indeed, was a very windy day, roughly 50-60KM. Or basically, just a normal day in the Netherlands. :) And yeah, if it wasn't so cold and miserable out, and I wasn't on my 5th and last battery, I'd probably have tried to nail that bike timing a bit better. Still, the concept is super cool, especially if they can fix some of the tweaks I suggested.
my question is if you can save your flightpath for later. For example, at our Lunar New Year’s celebration, we have a shot where the building’s staff lines up (Rockette’s style). The drone does a low flyby so that the entire staff gets some facetime with a good wave. The drone then climbs and does some cinematic maneuvers around our building and the immediate surroundings (not just circling but a bit more complex). I can’t expect the staff to wait around while i plan the shot. I’d like to plan it the day before or so and then on the day of, the staff gets in place and I execute the maneuver.
Looks like you can have it load the previous keyframes (just the last known set of frames, no option currently to select from a list of multiple saved Keyframe pathways). So you could just save them beforehand and have the drone launch from the same exact spot (place your Skydio case on the same exact GPS location as much as possible) and you should be good to go.
A terrific video. Very well done and informative. Until, they get the speed up during the keyframe shots, I see this not really being a part of the Skydio 2 core competency.
3DR Solo's multipoint cable cam, but with obstacle avoidance and a nifty graphic on the UI. It's an incredibly useful feature and should be _way_ smoother than a person on the sticks
Thank you for this. I live in Oregon and the weather is not optimum to say the least so I haven't got my Skydio 2 out yet, but is Keyframing a free feature through an update? Anyway, I see the benefit of Keyframing but why not create the Keyframe course as actual waypoints. Waypoints that can then be programed individually to tell the Skydio 2 to do anything from change the direction of the main camera, to speed and whether to take a picture or a video? You could also display these points on a map or aerial photo from Google Earth and manipulate the course there. This is easy to do I believe because other companies have done it and without some ridiculous requirement to buy some $2000 software unlock. Parrot does it with their ANAFI line. The original ANAFI. Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing more about this and the new 2+ from you! P.S. How did you get your Skydio 2 and 2+?
I appreciate the information. How does key frames compare to way points? Unless I was not providing enough input, way points only got from point A to B without useable footage in between. On a side note, did skydio just rebrand the parrot controller?
As always a great video. Thank you. The Skydio footage shows a jitter. It doesn’t appear to be fluent. Is this caused by the upload or does the key framing impact the smoothness?
Hi! What is all the jerkyness in the footage? is that something that was created when uploading to you RUclips? I see this a lot of drone review footage lately. Not sure if it a bitrate thing? Hmmm...
Why is the video from the drone so choppy? It's like it stutters everytime a new video keyframe is loaded. Is this a compression problem with the drone, a video editing artifact, or a RUclips issue? The parts of you look fine.
Hi Ray, First thank you for the great video's your manking. I life in The Netherlands also i am Dutch 😉 and i like to buy the skydio do you now a dealer in The Netherlands where is can buy one? Regards, Erwin
It took long enough for a company to implement something like this again... Remember 3dr drones that used to do this... That the main reason I wanted to buy one.
That’s not a real question. No one likes flying drones for the sake of it, with the possible exception of certain FPV situations. People usually have a specific goal. Different drones have strengths for different goals.
If they made a better controller,foldable,and a better app so i can fly it also like a normal drone like the mavic series its probably the best drone in its price range.
the ONLY thing holding me back is the Parrot controller, Range, and Camera. Controller sucks when comparing to DJI's controllers. Range, self explanatory. Camera - not enough dynamic range, no s-log, and frame rates - its soooo choppy!
Couple of questions, why is the footage so full of stuttering? It regularly (about 2 times a second) is jumping ex 11:22 Also why is the controller feed SO bad??
Odd, I don’t see it at 11:22, that’s weird. One minor thing to remember it that the winds were 50kph during all these shots. 🤣 but yeah the controller is undeniably bad.
@@Dcrainmaker I was not sure if it was my setup (144Hz monitor + 60 Hz monitor) I see that stuttering on my footage too (mavic mini 1st gen) and thought it was a limitation of the drone.. I just tried my phone and still saw the stutter.. I'll make a video and update here :)
Here it is ruclips.net/video/dDJfD6QkH5Q/видео.html I can't have that much of a sensitive vision that I'm seeing each frame 😬 At normal speed this looks like a fast slide show to me and again it happens with my mavic too
@@Airbag888 Interesting (looking now on a full-screen display). It's hard to tell in this case if that's gimbal stutter, or aircraft stutter/movement. I'd guess gimbal stutter. While DJI has by far the best gimbals, these day's others like Skydio are pretty darn good. Wind may have been a contributing factor here. When I do those crazy wind tests at 50-70KPH, many people think it's the aircraft's flying abilities that'll struggle. But in reality, if there's a failure, it's almost *ALWAYS* the gimbal, in specifically how it deals with a gust - where you'll see a stutter like that. It can be worsened if there's any (even slight) gimbal damage or debris in inside it, perhaps at the edges of performance. Given that this unit I flew this with is 2+ years old, and been battered, it wouldn't surprise me if there's some imperfections there.
@@Dcrainmaker thanks for the answer Imo it's more related to the shutter speed vs recording fps? I could be wrong My reasoning is that the stutter seems very regular throughout but I'm certainly no expert
I'm selling my skydio now. No trade in for existing customers is so rude. this drone isn't very reliable to begin with as skydio lied about every stat of the drone. Range is terrible amd connectivity is a joke
Definitely need to try this one out. Congrats on 300k 🙌🙌🎉🎉
Thanks Aldryn, much appreciated! Looking forward to seeing what you can pull off with it, in a wee bit prettier winter scenery! 🤣
I really hope Skydio listen to the reviews and take the downsides and make them into positives for mark 3.
Great introduction to Keyframe. I can see the reason for moderating the speed between keypoints, particularly if they are close, or involve complex moves, as basic physics can make a particular route unachievable at higher speeds. My hope is that as they develop Keyframe, you'll be able to bump up the speed commensurate with the distance between keypoints and vary from fast to slo-mo, point-to-point.
Indeed, so much cool potential down the road!
Seems like it wouldn’t be too onerous to adjust the speed manually as it is going through its flight, by adjusting the speed slider
@@29mailman Indeed, and I did that numerous times. Except, it gets tricky with things like sweat or moving vehicles/situations. For example, while running and riding solo, I had my phone with me, and trying to do those while getting the slider to *exactly* the right position is tough. Of course, if you're sitting shooting something else, then it's easy/trivial.
Another great review Ray. Seriously Skydio is miles ahead of the competition on their tracking, so it is odd they set such a low speed limit on this new keyframing feature. I think if it can get to around 30-45km/hr even just in bursts this will be a killer feature for adventure sports videographers.
Will be keeping my eyes pealed for your update when they make it happen 😉
Thanks. And yup, I agree!
The shot at 13:30 is beautiful! I don't know why you tend to talk down the video quality of the Skydio. It may be average compared to DJI, but it certainly is capable of some very above average captures! Thanks for all you do, Ray. Cheers!
Thanks! Indeed, it's a good shot cinematically, but it's still heavily underexposed. I shot that at 2PM and had the exposure increased by +1.0. And, that's with big sun flares breaking through the clouds. It should have been far brighter. Now, in brighter light conditions, the difference between the Skydio and DJI series isn't as obvious. Cheers!
Great job! Thank you for addressing doorways. I was wondering if it could handle that. That sucks
Yet again. Great work as usual. Love that last key frame composition with you riding/ running thru. Looking forward to my skydio2+
Diemen & the Rijnkanaal sure gets a lotta Drone action 😁
Yet another fantastic video Ray! Thank you for freezing out there to bring us your amazing content ;) It’s like watching myself (well kinda) as I love cycling, drones & Amsterdam. Just checked out your Skydio 2+ video a minute ago. Hopefully you’ll get that bird up in the sky soon. Love your work.
Keyframes looks like it might be a very useful feature for the Skydio 2 plus, once they get all the bugs worked out. Great video Ray, thanks for sharing.
Would be really cool if keyframing and active track were integrated so the camera would orient and swivel to follow a subject while executing the keyframe maneuver.
A new function to try. After owning my Skydio for about 9 months I still struggle with it, probably because I am a novice drone pilot and am trying to make the Skydio do things its not designed for. I have a few times where the drone just does its own thing (like flying down and stopping along a cliff), which I then have to manually recover and always think I will lose the drone. I also find its hard to get long distance shots, even when using the beacon. The drone is a bit heavy, particularly with 3 batteries, which makes it a clumsy when I take it along for cycling, MTB, and running. For that reason I just purchased a DJI mini. But for tracking its awesome. Get great shots on MTB. I do find it time consuming to change batteries, which then requires to reconnect everything - drone, phone, beacon, and GPS. Be nice is there was some way to do a hot swap. Keyframes looks interesting, but like cable it will take me a will to figure out and master. And drain my 3 batteries each time in the process.
Great video. And answered a lot of questions that I had especially on the limitations.
Thanks for always in depth vid! The thing that sucks with Skydio, is that it got promoted by consumers and not business, and for free! suddenly, after they have become famous they have turned to the big business forgetting or rather neglecting us consumers, that actually brought them fame. Now allot as you, yourself described in the vid, there are things you can do with the enterprise edition software, that we ordinary consumers dont get in the app. I get it that they need to differentiate between the enterprise solution and the private consumer solution, but not by functions that should be available to us private consumers as well. We helped them become popular and in demand in the business area, now I feel to put it mildly they give us the middle finger!
great in detail video thank you
Great video….thanks!
Just want to let you all knwo that for case landing you need to tap on the yellow circle or it wont land on the case even if it says so. Skydio told me this after my drone hit the side of the pro case.
As a hiker, sounds like keyframe would be perfect!
Still blows my mind
Wow, it’s a bit of a set up effort but the results are amazing!
Great video!!!! I can’t wait to download update and us the key frame. feature!!!! ! 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thanks!
crazy how far tech has come in recent years
Omg- you uploaded superb video-work,see you on my side! DC,
Thanks - appreciate it!
Crazy complex. This is why Artificial Intelligence is becoming so powerful in the World of consumer electronics.
Excellent
this is insane skydio have defiantly used there game can not wait to see what the skydio 3 brings
Interesting finds 👍🏻
I would like you to review your t-shirt.
It's amazing.
Great video, I am sure Skydio will fix these small things if possible. How did you get the Skydios? I am in Austria now and if I want to order, there is no option. So I guess I need to ask a friend over in the USA to buy it for me and ship it?
Cycle faster and nail that keyframe, or wait missed it, but the running was on track ;-) I sold my Skydio 2 last month, and not sure this feature makes it worth buying again but glad Skydio keep on innovating!
Thank you for the truth!
Every other video regarding the new skydio and its features only shows all the praise not the truth.
The truth is it's a new feature and it's good but not great
Thanks, appreciate it! I just try and show how things work in real-life, creating real-world creative shots, in real conditions. Cheers!
Thank you ! - happy new year ! So can you build a waypoint session offline first and next fly the prepared route as well?
Same to you!
Oops, and missed the question. You build the keyframing session in the air, you can't build it on the ground.
very windy! The shot a the end are not bad! You could also slow down on your bike to arrive in time to get perfect shot.
Indeed, was a very windy day, roughly 50-60KM. Or basically, just a normal day in the Netherlands. :) And yeah, if it wasn't so cold and miserable out, and I wasn't on my 5th and last battery, I'd probably have tried to nail that bike timing a bit better. Still, the concept is super cool, especially if they can fix some of the tweaks I suggested.
my question is if you can save your flightpath for later. For example, at our Lunar New Year’s celebration, we have a shot where the building’s staff lines up (Rockette’s style). The drone does a low flyby so that the entire staff gets some facetime with a good wave. The drone then climbs and does some cinematic maneuvers around our building and the immediate surroundings (not just circling but a bit more complex). I can’t expect the staff to wait around while i plan the shot. I’d like to plan it the day before or so and then on the day of, the staff gets in place and I execute the maneuver.
Looks like you can have it load the previous keyframes (just the last known set of frames, no option currently to select from a list of multiple saved Keyframe pathways). So you could just save them beforehand and have the drone launch from the same exact spot (place your Skydio case on the same exact GPS location as much as possible) and you should be good to go.
A terrific video. Very well done and informative. Until, they get the speed up during the keyframe shots, I see this not really being a part of the Skydio 2 core competency.
3DR Solo's multipoint cable cam, but with obstacle avoidance and a nifty graphic on the UI. It's an incredibly useful feature and should be _way_ smoother than a person on the sticks
Poor 3DR. So far ahead of its time, at that time.
Great video! Love the indoor shooting idea and I was wondering about the light issue. Could an ND filter fix the flickering?
Very cool.
Thank you for this. I live in Oregon and the weather is not optimum to say the least so I haven't got my Skydio 2 out yet, but is Keyframing a free feature through an update?
Anyway, I see the benefit of Keyframing but why not create the Keyframe course as actual waypoints. Waypoints that can then be programed individually to tell the Skydio 2 to do anything from change the direction of the main camera, to speed and whether to take a picture or a video? You could also display these points on a map or aerial photo from Google Earth and manipulate the course there.
This is easy to do I believe because other companies have done it and without some ridiculous requirement to buy some $2000 software unlock. Parrot does it with their ANAFI line. The original ANAFI.
Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing more about this and the new 2+ from you!
P.S. How did you get your Skydio 2 and 2+?
Great review, and I guess having the camera pointing to the beacon through the route is not possible (future function?)
Oh man, would love to have this in Europe...
Can you make comparison with dji mavic 3 waypoint with skydio 2 keyframe
How could you order the skydio for Europa ? Bravo for your brilliant videos ! Always rich
@11:00 , in enterprise when using keyframing the obstacle avoidance switches back to standard and so does also not allow the 11 cm or even 0 cm.
Interesting…good to know!
Very windy! It must be a huge challenge for canal traffic.
Super windy the past week!
I appreciate the information. How does key frames compare to way points? Unless I was not providing enough input, way points only got from point A to B without useable footage in between.
On a side note, did skydio just rebrand the parrot controller?
As always a great video. Thank you. The Skydio footage shows a jitter. It doesn’t appear to be fluent. Is this caused by the upload or does the key framing impact the smoothness?
It's hard to say. I don't think it's the upload. Might have been the 50KPH winds, or perhaps the keyframing+wind.
Can you still do Traditional map waypoint.
It almost but precisely sound like if you know how to edit 360° footage, using the keyframe feature will be a cake walk
Great video, How do you get these Skydio's to the Netherlands? I had to go thru a lot of trouble to get it on my desk here in Holland.
I think, I’ll hint my friends on the new world of my upcoming birthday and have them mail me one.. If regulations do allow flying Skydio in the EU
I saw they added a new gimbal control feature for keyframe but I don’t see that option?? I have 2+
antana added. Is the signal still that bad on the preview?
Hi! What is all the jerkyness in the footage? is that something that was created when uploading to you RUclips? I see this a lot of drone review footage lately. Not sure if it a bitrate thing? Hmmm...
Why is the video from the drone so choppy? It's like it stutters everytime a new video keyframe is loaded. Is this a compression problem with the drone, a video editing artifact, or a RUclips issue? The parts of you look fine.
Hi Ray,
First thank you for the great video's your manking.
I life in The Netherlands also i am Dutch 😉 and i like to buy the skydio do you now a dealer in The Netherlands where is can buy one?
Regards,
Erwin
It took long enough for a company to implement something like this again... Remember 3dr drones that used to do this... That the main reason I wanted to buy one.
Does it fly in low light now ?
What drone do you enjoy flying the most, skydio 2+ or the dji 2 s?
That’s not a real question. No one likes flying drones for the sake of it, with the possible exception of certain FPV situations. People usually have a specific goal. Different drones have strengths for different goals.
does it have mount for Action 2 camera?
WHERE IS THE LINK
I don't see the keyframe option on my skydio 2 and the app says that the software is up to date. What should I do? 😰
Maybe I missed something, but does the drone need constant contact with the remote to finish the route?
Yes, it does. Or at least, it stopped every time it lost connection for me.
Does the key frame only work with the remote?
It works as long as there's a phone involved. So remote+phone, or just phone alone.
Aub zou je mij willen helpen waar kan ik kopen in Europe skydio 2+ ???
Can tge skydio 2 use key frames
Wish this drone was legal in my country
👍👍🥂
If they made a better controller,foldable,and a better app so i can fly it also like a normal drone like the mavic series its probably the best drone in its price range.
So… you want it to cater to something it’s never been aiming for. Got it.
the ONLY thing holding me back is the Parrot controller, Range, and Camera. Controller sucks when comparing to DJI's controllers. Range, self explanatory. Camera - not enough dynamic range, no s-log, and frame rates - its soooo choppy!
Couple of questions, why is the footage so full of stuttering? It regularly (about 2 times a second) is jumping ex 11:22
Also why is the controller feed SO bad??
Odd, I don’t see it at 11:22, that’s weird. One minor thing to remember it that the winds were 50kph during all these shots. 🤣 but yeah the controller is undeniably bad.
@@Dcrainmaker I was not sure if it was my setup (144Hz monitor + 60 Hz monitor) I see that stuttering on my footage too (mavic mini 1st gen) and thought it was a limitation of the drone.. I just tried my phone and still saw the stutter.. I'll make a video and update here :)
Here it is ruclips.net/video/dDJfD6QkH5Q/видео.html
I can't have that much of a sensitive vision that I'm seeing each frame 😬
At normal speed this looks like a fast slide show to me and again it happens with my mavic too
@@Airbag888 Interesting (looking now on a full-screen display). It's hard to tell in this case if that's gimbal stutter, or aircraft stutter/movement. I'd guess gimbal stutter. While DJI has by far the best gimbals, these day's others like Skydio are pretty darn good. Wind may have been a contributing factor here. When I do those crazy wind tests at 50-70KPH, many people think it's the aircraft's flying abilities that'll struggle. But in reality, if there's a failure, it's almost *ALWAYS* the gimbal, in specifically how it deals with a gust - where you'll see a stutter like that. It can be worsened if there's any (even slight) gimbal damage or debris in inside it, perhaps at the edges of performance. Given that this unit I flew this with is 2+ years old, and been battered, it wouldn't surprise me if there's some imperfections there.
@@Dcrainmaker thanks for the answer
Imo it's more related to the shutter speed vs recording fps? I could be wrong
My reasoning is that the stutter seems very regular throughout but I'm certainly no expert
Nice but not available in Europe…..
Ba8c
WHY DO YALL NEVER SAY THE PRICE AT TIME OF VIDEO....
Umm, because it’s a free software update?
😭 I would like to burn my Mavic 3 in protest.
Talking to fast.
I'm selling my skydio now. No trade in for existing customers is so rude. this drone isn't very reliable to begin with as skydio lied about every stat of the drone. Range is terrible amd connectivity is a joke
This is a gimmick. Takes too much time