Etrian Odyssey 5 Review (3DS)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- We finally arrive at the fifth and last numbered entry of this dungeon crawling series so far. So far all four past entries have brought something new to the table, and they've all been quite enjoyable. Can the same be said about Etrian Odyssey 5? We'll see in this review.
Massive thanks to Huckebein for information on the series over Discord. And Fuchsia for finding and isolating that image of Lina holding up the meat that I vaguely described I was looking for.
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We gotta keep this hype so that they can do a switch EO game. Hopefully somedayyyy
I just question how well that would work considering how reliant EO is on a touch screen. I know the Switch has one, but it's barely ever used (And for good reason, it feels terrible and doesn't support the same type of stylus as the DS/3DS). :/
@@Cuprite1024 yeah.. a common conception. Makes me sad that switch's touch screen is shabby. ☹️
To the next stage… 😭
@@GreyCartridge it'll come sooner or later. They're still developing it.
@@stellarkym plus how the dev team work helping the SMT Team to finish SMT V.
Thanks for keeping the etrian community alive
It's nice to know that there are still people that appreciate and care about this game
And now the first three games come to the Switch! Etrian Odyssey is back, baby!
So happy you got to 5. This is one of the best RPGs I've played. I played a couple other EO games before, but when I got to this, I was like, "this is the start of a new era for EO-and maybe dungeon crawlers at large!!" I was wrong, of course...
But yeah, THIS is how you streamline a series. Every QoL feature or simplification feels justified by a design shift (like more involved floors justifying floor jumps). You touched on everything I could think of. And it was great to see every one of these games get the attention to detail it deserves.
Awesome review! EO5 was my introduction to the series and still my favorite. Love the little flourishes that elevate the feeling of adventure, like the dungeon events and cooking. It's also nice how the different racial skills aid in roleplay, loved making my murderous Harbinger (actually a softie) the one responsible for animal care.
Absolutely excited that you came this far and have covered all the mainline series. These are always a set of videos I come back to due to my love for the series.
All I can hope is that it gets more and more love in the future. Especially if atlus releases another game in the future, I feel as though it would be optimal for them to do so on PC as it's systems and layout fit perfectly to the platform.
Tldr; amazing work!
Nexus is mainline too
Oi, Jenetta's voice acting is peak perfection!
Jokes aside I really love EOV, it has my favourite classes and its dungeon design is one of my favourites as well. The townspeople have enough going on to be proper characters especially when many of them accompany you in the post-game. It's a joy to play and replay.
Great review!
WAIT, I had no clue about the postgame thing ,, I got stuck on the final boss and stopped playing for a while
@@pearlplayaa Yeah, you gotta do their quests. But if you want to try them outside of those, there are guild cards people made that house those characters. (As you can guess, it's an edited save)
never expected to find a KFP here
@@raphezar2049 I'm curious, what all can you do with them
Specifically talking about the edited save ones, I've already done a quest where Jenetta joined me so I know generally what the limitations are normally
I'm just curious if you can do more with them using the edited save guild card versions you mentioned
I'd never even heard of Etrian Odyssey until I found your video, now here I am already finished watching the last 4 Etrian Odyssey videos and starting on this one while writing this comment.
Love that SOMEONE is out here making these etrian odyssey reviews. Loved all of them so far!
Despite the questionable voice over, Etrian Odyssey 5 is probably my favorite entry in the series. I agree with most of the points you raised. The first playthrough is pretty rough since you won’t know about advanced classes and building your team around them half way down a playthrough and how difficult the bosses are. Glad you were able to play it as well, albeit not on original hardware.
Yeah, someone I know did a playthrough using just two Rovers as his full party while I was working on my video. You can do some interesting things in this entry for sure.
It was the only game in the main series to have voice acting.
Man I'm super grateful that you made a review for each numbered series. Dope stuff man thank you and congrats!
I absolutely love 5. My favourites rotate around 3, 2U and 5 half the time. So glad to have followed this review series.
"Iorys" is a bad corruption of "Aeolus". This game has a lot of weird localization quirks where it's clear that the localizers did not understand what the original material was referencing.
And fun fact: the dragons were supposed to return at some point, apparently. I found their assets, rebuilt for this game's new format, lurking in the game data. I appreciate that this game has a lot of new monster designs but they went really hard on the reskins here, to make the burden of creating new stuff easier. I feel like EO4 did the same thing.
And I'll say that advanced classing is better than multi-classing. Subclassing has been a complete failure each and every time and the grimoire system, while fun with monster skills and certain passives, was a disaster with class skills.
Well, it's been 2 months, and Google isn't bringing up any info; what assets?
@@ZedarShadow Their models can be found in the game's data. In the directory monster
model\ can be found the files en551a.bam2, en552.bam2, and en553a.bam2, which are the dragons' models. They function just fine in game, which isn't the case for files if you were to transfer them directly from EO2U-they'd have to be reformatted to work in EO5 without crashing.
@@kyasarintsu4047Just waiting for a fan mod perhaps?
Been looking forward to this review all week! Currently in the 5th stratum of EO3, which I’m playing largely due to your reviews getting me interested in the series. Can’t wait to get to the 3DS entries. They look like they smooth out a lot of the rougher edges that I’ve had to learn to live with in 3. I’ve been really enjoying the game and I’ve enjoyed all your videos on the series! Yours is probably the best EO content on the whole of English speaking RUclips.
Advanced classes is an idea i love because it allows for a great Conceptual difficulty (conceptual difficulty is the knowledge and information you have to handle in a game) increase without overwhelming new players with future options. They also make classes very distinct in a way that i prefer to subclassing: and with subclassing you have to balance it in a very different way, while with advanced classes you can make some super powerful abilities that would be broken in sublasses.
I liked Etrian odyssey nexus a lot, but an issue it had was that its conceptual difficulty was that i sort off... knew everything about the classes halfway through, and just kept leveling up their skills in certain ways. So i didnt have the same decisions about what to level up as i do early game, and since the game is very very long and a bit bloated tbh, I had to switch out my c lasses to keep me from getting bored. But that requires retiring them, and grinding more (even with the EXP dlc), and getting new equipment and a lot of work.
I loved Advanced classes in EOV, because just as i had gotten used to the classes abilities at the end of the second stratum, suddenly a whole new sleuth of options opened up! In the first few games, they tried to give novelty via unlucked classes, but that required switching your party and abondoning a lot of work. With Advanced classes, its like making a whole new party but with the current members! And if you regret your decision about which advanced class to have for a character, its pretty cheap to rest someone to pick the other class.
My only real complaint is that, as you say, if you had planned out your whole party with the skill tree you had seen before, and if you then wanted to switch directions after the AC unluck, that is was annoying and felt out of your control
My suggestion for fixing this would be: When you first unluck the advanced classesm, you get a opportuniy for a free rest which doesnt cost levels: So then you can explore and play around with the new skill trees! That way, you can keep the suprise element of it, but also allow for even smoother midgame party planning.
Loved this review. 5 always stands out with the 10 new classes and no reused enemies. It was so nice after the untolds to get something completely new.
I'd love to hear additional opinions on stratum 5 and stratum 6 when you get to it. The game really pushes the 6th stratum and the narrative is better for it.
Yeah ! Thank you so much for your work on one of my favorite series 🤗
aye was waiting for this haha, looked forward to all of your etrian odyssey reviews
I really love your reviews and I know you said you wouldnt do Untold but I really hope you would reconsider reviewing them. And especially Nexus. I've been looking forward to all of your EO vidoe and it just sucks that we wouldnt have more. XD
I thoroughly enjoy your reviews on the EO series. Also, Slayers is probably my favorite anime of all time.
I really truly love that you've been doing these series. Thank you
The best game in the series, I would say. Nexus has more content, but V is more focused, and the number of options is still very large (even when removing bad race/class combos). I love the music, the classes, the world design, the encounters... heck, I even love the voice acting! The main drawback of the game is that it kinda peaks in 3rd Stratum, so it kinda loses steam with the 4th. Still an absolutely amazing game, with lots of synergies to think about. Sad to see the series disappear, with the 3DS eshop closing down soon, and no news... :(
I absolutely love the EO reviews, great work! (Especially since the road to EO6 has been... uh... uncertain?)
Awesome review as always. I'm probably not unusual from many others in that I started the series with 3 and thus have a particular degree of affection for it, but I've found something to admire in subsequent entry.
5 has been on my backlog for a decent chunk of time (and learning that a Necropolis is the THIRD stratum in the game has bumped it up the queue) and hearing you put you put it within the vicinity of 3 has me excited for when I actually commit to starting it up. Funnily enough, it seems that the briskness of the combat and rather generous opening up of party composition options may have been course corrections from the quaint but sluggish early game of 4, so this may be a case of the Etrian team's patented "reactive balancing" across iterations actually working out.
I am a big Etrian Odyssey fan too, and seeing this video being recommended randomly made me wanna open my savefile and try to beat the secret superboss again, after failing lots of times and giving up after I got It to 10% health last year, and finally, after three hours this afternoon, I managed to beat It 👏👏👏 finally closing this amazing game, great video too, at least the original trilogy is available on the switch, but I also pray for a new entry 🙏🙏
Crossing my fingers we get a new Etrian Odyssey game announced in 2023 from Atlus. This series is so underrated!
We got some remasters...I guess that's good enough.
@@armandostockvideos8386 Considering Dev team explicitly stated they partially used them as a learning experience and then new game is in development. As expected they did run into issues with transitioning from dual screen setup to a single screen one.
I love this game, you're right, it is right on up there with 3. I was really surprised at how good it was when I played it; I was not expecting them to knock it out of the park after IV.
Etrian Odyssey 5 was the one where I actually kept track of all developments leading up to its release both in Japan and in the west, I even helped compile a few pages on the english Etrian Odyssey wiki during that time. What I loved seeing the most was the character customization. It was the most logical step up from the alternate portraits that EO3 and EO4 had, but the voices just gave even more life to your party and I loved the little barks they had, even if there was only little variation in what you heard as you went through the game.
The narrator was really awesome too. It gave so much more depth to the dungeon.
The Mastery Titles just make your team even more unique too, even when you have two of the same class. Simply because people want to give them unique names.
Where EO3 was, in my opinion, the pinnacle of what Etrian Odyssey should be, EO5 is definitely the height of what it could be. It has everything you want and then some. It's just the modern version of EO3.
I love the 3DS Etrian Odyssey games. I wish I had more time to tackle my backlog but while that doesn't happen, I'm glad to see your videos!
My God, I don't have time to play EO series anymore but watching your review brings a lot of fond memories of it. Thank you.
How does Etrian Odyssey Nexus compare to the other games in the series?? I’m on the fence where I should get it or not.
My favorite moment in this game was in the 2nd stratum. I accidentally ran into the giant elephant FOE and when I hear the music it’s an epic remix of The End of Raging Waves. I took moment to enjoy the music while being slaughtered.
19:52 yeahhh ...so satisfying!
Along with most combos in the game 😊😊😊
I am really enjoying this great review! Thanks for making this! Now I am waiting for EO Nexus. (I haven't beaten that game just yet because of many backlogs 😅 but I'll get back to it soon.)
Awesome can't wait to watch this tonight!
One of the best night ever..
This review made me go back and play EOV from where I left off (just before 2nd boss) And honestly I've been having such a blast. Master classes I thought were great aditions, and made my characters some much more fun. I've been playing a lot of the first 3 with the Switch remasters and all, and it's been a great breath of fresh air.
Just finished this yesterday. Was great!!
Great stuff man can’t wait for the nexus review
I like that this one doesn't have a strategy that feels like the way you should be playing, because in 1 it was mitigate as much damage as possible, in 2 it was hit faster and harder, 3 is the most debateable but i'd say it is buffing as much as possible then watching the big numbers, in 4 it seems to be status effects (not 100% sure because i didn't play 4) but for 5 I can't think of 1 strategy better than the rest
Thank you for covering this game. I was really thinking I was the weirdo who thought that EO5 was among the best if not the best in the series. I saw you talked about other great games like Devil survivor, and I got subscribed.
Been an Etrian fan since the beginning. It's always great seeing your reviews on all the games. Etrian 5 felt like the real 3ds entry we deserved. I'm interested to see your reviews on the Untolds.
With the only Etrian odysseys I've played being 5 and Nexus, I'm surprised by how many things I appreciated in 5 were totally new to it.
Legends say that when aboveup finally completes nexus Etrian Odyssey 6/EO switch will be announced.
Bet this is blowing up now! Hyped for the ports?
Do you plan to play EO: Nexus? By the sound of it at the end of this you are moving on from the series for now
AMAZING REVIEW. I just found out about this series through your videos and i am totally in love with them, i can't wait to play one.
On a side note, i was wondering if you've played Eternal Sonata? If not, i really recommend it and i would love a review of them made by you! It's a really underrated rpg with a beautiful story, the plot is basically: Chopin (
I love Eternal Sonata, it is such a great mood
Given all the Touhou nods and references alongside your EO reviews, I feel obliged to ask whether you've played Labyrinth of Touhou 2. It has one of the most satisfying combat systems I've ever experienced, despite its flaws in other areas.
When I see an EO related video 😊
Also didn't play 5 for the reason of giving up on 3DS before it came out and this review has me REALLY wanting to. Played and loved 1,2,3, and 4. Really hoping 4,5, and Nexus get official PC releases like 1,2,3 HDs. Hoping I can get a 3DS again and a copy without too much trouble
Can't wait for you to review etrian odyssey origins collection
I finally finished 3 with the Origins Collection and while I really liked it, 5 remains my absolute favorite in the series. Race and Class option all feel like they bring something to the table and it also has my favorite difficulty curve in the series, since for once the very beginning isn't the hardest part(aside from postgame bosses)
Recently, my 3DS mostly fell apart and I had to make the move to running the EO games I’ve slowly been picking at on PC, and I’ve been kind of at a loss when it comes to controls; what setups do you use/recommend?
I use a controller for the regular controls and a mouse for the map. Alternatively, it kind of depends on your keyboard these days. Personally I quite like mapping face buttons to Numpad's directionals and movement to the arrow keys to get a similar layout going as a controller.
Good stuff. Need to get back into finishing EO4 and try the other games.
I've been waiting for this !
Man this takes me back. First time I've ever heard of the series was a 2 part top 10 list for easiest and hardest first bosses and Narmer from Etrian Odyssey 3 was number 1 hardest years ago. Flash forward to my 16th birthday and I'm at Gamestop looking for a 3ds game for myself and I find 5 on the shelf and remember that video I watched and decieded to pick it up on a whim. Haven't beaten the game after all these years but I have all the games and Dlc except the original 2 games and I've never been happier. Got a team of (B)Pugilist, (BM)Masauro, (DB)Harbinger, (GP)Botanist, and (Broker)Necromancer and on the 19th floor. Can't wait to finally beat this game😊
I am relatively new to the Etrian Odyssey and my first entry to it was Etrian odyssey nexus. I could not believe that i had not played anything like it before and before i knew it i was a fan. also I am still waiting for the review on Nexus!
God the nostalgia. Fucking adore this game
i love this game series
thankfully there's an undub so i'll be sure to check that out
I love Etrian Odyssey 5!
I still haven't beaten it yet, since it was the first game in the franchise that I played, so once I got to the end of the 4th stratum I decided to put it down until I beat the previous games, and am currently on the 4th stratum in Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold.
I liked Etrian Odyssey Untold and have been enjoying EO:U2, though I've always been more of an Icewind Dale than Baldur's Gate guy, so I prefer the full player made parties in EO5 to the premade parties in EO:U and EO:U2.
I know that I could have chosen to play through those games in classic mode, but in EO:U they only gave you 1 save slot 😞
I have a classic save in EO:U2 that I occasionally boot up when I want to vary things up a bit, but the brokenness of the Fafnir Knight is fun enough to keep me playing in Story Mode lol
I highly recommend playing Infinite Adventures on PC.
It's the closest dungeon crawler to the Etrian Odyssey games that I've found on that platform.
The dungeon crawlers from Experience are also quite good, but they're more inline with Wizardry than EO.
Keep up the great work!
I play EO 1 on the DS right now and it's still really good! You should try original EO instead of untold if you don't like story mod 👍
5's my favorite too. On certain... places... it's often dismissed as below average within the series. But despite loving 3 too, I much prefer the focus on the single dungeon without major side-map/ship distractions, and the lack of multiclass is also lovely for cutting out 6 hours+ of my usual pre-planning. Splitting each class into 2 well themed and focused choices is a MUCH better solution than multiplying each class by the number of all classes and adding that to my decision paralysis, it also cuts the cheese out (such as dipping your feet into another class just because it has that one OP skill) - much like how Pathfinder2's system improves on 5E.
I love the Masurao class.
High risk high reward.
Now that you’re almost free, do you think you’ll cover the spin-offs in the future?
PQ, EMD mainly. Can’t imagine you’d want to cover EMD2 yet
😮When are they gonna bring this series to the Switch ❗️ I bought the collectors edition of this and I really like Vivian the inn keeper I thought she was wearing a hat but turns out her pet cat is sitting on her head 😂😂
Your wish is granted. The first three games are going to be remastered for the Nintendo Switch and PC via Steam on June 1st of this year as of writing this reply. If you are aware of this already, you can disregard it.
Yoo I had to stop when I saw the party ♡ the original SLAYERS anime!
If you think I'm going to watch a review for a 5 years old game then you're absolutely right
I got the game yesterday (through totally legit means) enjoying it so far. Forgot to get a healer though and the first floor kicked my ass.
Fun fact: you can solo this game with an Earthlain-Dragoon or a Therian-Rover (and I think a Celestrian-Necromancer can do it, but it’d be a hellish task). The former is easier, though.
The Dragoon is my absolute favorite EO class for good reasons.
HD Trilogy remake let’s gooo
I agree EO5 kind of became my favourite too, while i can't really pick a favourite with how much i love all of them, if i had to i would pick EO5, or EO3 but most likely EO5.
Etrian Odyssey 5 was epic from start to finish. As a veteran of the series, you can feel the amount of Quality of Life changes when moving from 4 to 5
I do hope the series continues onto the Switch. It can be tricky to hand draw maps on the switch but honestly, I wouldn't mind if *maps were auto-drawn like in SMT Strange Journey or even in EO Nexus where you got the option for auto-draw if you are lazy*
Just walk to a tile and everything is drawn out.
As for the poll at the end of the video, I would choose multi-classing. I do appreciate how class mastery gives you more skills to further your build specialty but multi classing gives a wider berth of freedom on how you want to build your OC characters.
NEXUS WHEN
Besides persona Q, this 5. Is my first EO game, I'm excited to play it thoroughly and I'm eventually going to get nexus.
I'll be back to watch it all the way through when I'm done
The best game series ever
I miss this games
I kinda regret not buying this before the eShop shut down (Especially since I *did* get 4, 2U, and MD), and the first physical copy I've seen online is double what the digital price was at that time (If I remember correctly), so getting a copy will be a bit difficult, but at least the DLC wasn't super exciting overall (Unlike 2U), so I didn't permanently miss out on anything I'd particularly care about.
I always imagined that each EO game is some odd early 00s MMO and you get to experience that artifact of a groundbreaking-but-never-to-be game in a dead server.
Etrian Odyssey 5 is my favorite in the series and part of the reason is the events remind me like I'm playing dungeons and dragons.
Just found your channel looking up content for the SaGa series. I feel like you would really appreciate the Shadow Hearts series! Seems like it would fit your channel perfectly. Super odd, cult favorite, left-of-normal JRPGs.
That and Koudelka are on the list for potential coverage in the future, yeah. Just need to get around to it.
You totally need to do a review on Kirby and the Amazing mirror. Your reviews on Drilldozer and WarioLand 4 were very good. And that Kirby game is like other two GBA games charming with a ton of variety..
I totally did Hinata as pugilist with master class called gentle fist.
So race skills, class skills, and promotion skills? That seems like a lot to keep track of
I'm currently developing a dungeon crawler designed after Etrian Odyssey and especially the game Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei which I recently played as someone who is half the age of that game it has held up immensely well, specifically the exploration, it has significantly better exploration than SMT 1 which pretends to be open ended but in actuality is entirely linear with a bunch of incorrect paths
Anyway I wanted to ask 2 questions to DRPG fans
1, Would you prefer auto-mapping or drawing the maps yourselves in a game like the one I'm developing which has significantly more verticality in map design, the verticality might make manual mapping confusing to a player as each level will have multiple mapping layers you can swap between
2: Do you prefer your DRPGs to have a set story such as SMT 1 or 2 with a set cast, or your DRPGs to allow full control over your party, furthermore if a story has you make your own party are you fine with NPCs playing an important role that may take away from your created party like in many DRPGs made by Experience
EO truly works best on its home console with the screen to draw maps. (I own all of them and cherish the franchise a lot)
However, I would give ANYTHING to have them on PC or switch. Any platform to make them more accessible.... I also hate using the 3DS.
After playing EO1 on Emulator for a few hours earlier this week, it's really not that bad of a trade off.
I've been looking for an alternative to EO for so long... Nothing compares, man :(
Good news, my friend. Refer to the announcement from the recent Nintendo Direct of this year. The remasters of the first three games are also going to be on PC via Steam.
@@ThomasJeff1898 I know, I literally screamed, lmao
I had completely forgotten how both the font, AND the words change when you have an option selected in town. Something about that just irrationally annoys me and my OCD.
Though I think it annoyed me more in Nexus then 5...
I really hope the 1-3 collection does well enough for this to get a rerelease too. An european copy of this game is freakishly expensive, which sucks since it seems like one of the highlights of the series.
I fortunately got it on release. That said, I was very sad when the cashier told me I was the ONLY one to have preordered it.
Being a french EO fan sucks.
Very awesome review! I also think 5 is probably the best EO but 3 is my favorite because it was the last game that really captured me like games would as a child. Advanced classing is really cool and kind of gives you 20 classes to experiment with. I really loved getting to name the classes also. My only real disappointment with the game was the final stratum having a kind of boring bgm compared to other final stratums in my opinion.
Yeah, that's fair. Etrian Odyssey 3's setting is one of my favorites of any game, so it's a difficult game to compare to any other entry in this series. It's so much in its own field, doing its own thing and handling that very well.
I also kind of just want to space this out to avoid spoilers for people who aren't familiar.
But I really enjoyed the massive, massive misdirect 5 pulls with its lategame content. Using familiar visuals and setup from across almost the entire series only to not quite play it out like any of them. Pretty inventive.
you happy for the hd etrian odyssey collection?
From first EO and all others instalment my guild name was SLAYERS :D
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I wanna see a video on dark spire
EO Collection on Switch is going to be sweet
Nice!
Hi could you do a review on Evil Twin Cypriens Chronicles? Its a Horror 3D platformer with a great style, good music and alot of imagination. And on top of that its a rare case of a game that was only released in Europe. Also if you decide to do it play the PS2 version and not the Dreamcast version. The Dreamcast version is more expensive and actually has some content taken away.
Eh, I kinda preferred subclassing more, simply because it felt more like you were discovering some goofy combo instead of being given something coherentNfrom the get go, but I do admit that Blade Dancer is amazing and cool and awesome
Are all classes available or you have to unlock while playing?
What! You don’t like the VO? You’re nuts. Coming from a guy that said “Her-ba-list.”
Okay, I’m done digging into you. I love this game. Very nice video.
Sorry for being a non-native and trilingual. Voice acting for the English dub still sucks though. It was so much of an afterthought they didn't even bother to properly credit the cast.
There’s no leniency for you. Off with your head!
No, like I said, I was picking on you bc I enjoyed the campy VO.
Keep up the good work, I’ve been enjoying all your EO review videos.
Will you do Nexus next.
NGL, I didn't like the advanced class system when I first started EO5. EO4 was the first game in the series I played to the end, so I was trying to build my characters as jack-of-all-trades in 5 as well. Once I understood how to build effective characters it became my favorite game in the series.
I wasn't ready for the memes in this video lmao
Also , I love voice acting in this series , but I understand it's not for everyone . However , if you brought up how repetitive and amateurish it is , I was hoping for a gag about the skill tree .
When you rest/retire a character and come back to allocate skill trees , they say the same line for *every single point you add* ! You might want to see that for the meme material that it is . Thankfully in Nexus this was fixed , by having you allocate multiple points at once and allowing you to upgrade skills in places of the tree that you haven't reached , assuming you have enough points
My first Etrian game and now my least favorite 😅
(Will still forever hold a special place in my heart though)
I downloaded the 3DS game program on my phone, and I played this game. It's beautiful, but it's almost a bit difficult😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳