Now we're talking. Lakes are my domain and its great to see it covered haha. Should be noted that as of 2024 there are 5 Lakers as museums that people can visit SS Meteor - Superior, Wisconsin SS Col. James M. Schoonmaker - Toledo, Ohio SS Valley Camp - Sault ste. Marie, Michigan SS William A. Irvin - Duluth, Minnesota SS William G. Mather - Cleveland, Ohio.
Fast Fact: The song "Wreck if the Edmund Fitzgerald" was written in a "sea shanty" rhythm, where you can basically hear the sailors going "Heave-ho!! Heave ho!!" It is an adopted Waltz rhythm: "One Two Three, One Two Three." It sticks with me because I took cotillion when I was eight and Gordon's sing came out when I was fourteen.
I don't want to sound argumentative, but what version of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald are you talking about? The song I've listened to since just about the time it came out in December of 1975 doesn't sound anything like "heave ho, heave ho"! Two guitarists PeeWee Charles & Terry Clements came up with the haunting guitar rhythm. The original version came out in December of 1975, just shortly after the Wreck happened. Gordon Lightfoot re-recorded the song in 1988, but it's not much different from the original. Like I said, not trying to be argumentative, but it would be interesting where you come up with that??
@@Chevyman02 I don't know how you don't hear it. I've had two years of professional vocal training, sang lead vocals in a RUSH tribute band for two years and I sang in a choir for twenty years. Perhaps, if you consulted with someone that performs music for a living, or if you went to a large church and spoke with the choir director they could give instruction in sea shanties.
@@The_Dudester I don't need instruction on sea shanties. It's not a big deal, it could be, I just don't hear the shanty style. I do hear the old Irish folk style, so you could very well be right. It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong 🤣
@@Chevyman02 music is interpretive - I always just figure it sounds different to others than it does to me! I appreciate you sharing your perspective and being very respectful about it! ❤️ This is why our community if awesome!
The Anderson is my favorite due to the fact that it Went Back in terrible seas to search for the Fitz... I look at a few Laker Channels. Thanks for this video. Keep up the good work.... From SW Michigan 😊
My dad was on the Coast Guard Cutter Woodrush when they went after the Fitz. Hearing his description of the storm was something, unfortunately I don't remember many of the details now.
Their called The Great lakes but their really inland Sea's. Because of the depths and cold temperature of the lakes they say they don't give up their dead. It's great that you listed all the different kinds of Lakers. Now when I watch videos of the ships I'll have an idea of what I'm looking at. Very cool 😎 Elinor 👍
Boats (built in fresh water) and Saltys built in salt. On the lakes the 183’ long cruise vessel I worked on was a ship v the 1,000 footer passing up in the Soo and that was a boat!
@@shipwrecksunday it’s sad so many old girls are gone! Seeing the 118 year old St Mary’s challenger converted to a barge is so sad granted its only been one for ten years!
Hope you don't mind me using your first name, but you out did yourself again Elinor. Great video! The ocean is very interesting, i get interested in man's attempt to conquer water & it's deepest secrets, the great lakes just draws my attention. Maybe it's because i live in the Midwest, and closer to them? I've seen the lakes frozen over in the winter, I've driven over the Mackinac Bridge & seen the water below & wondered about the ships underneath. Interesting, they can bring the "salties" in the great lakes, but the great lakes freighters are advised it's best not to go in the open ocean. You're out doing yourself in the new series, loved the battleship video, this one is every bit as good. Can you imagine being the captain of the Paul R. Tregurtha & taking that large of a ship through the Soo Locks, with only mere inches clearance on either side! Looking forward to Sundays video, another installment of the great lakes. Tim.
I have no problem with you using my first name at all! 😁 I think the lakes are so fascinating because they act like seas but are freshwater lakes! It's mind-boggling how big they are. Most of us experience lakes, but not lakes like that (unless you live in the area or travel there!). As for the freighter in the seas, I believe it's because their middle sags in saltwater seas as the wave patterns are very different and the saltwater is very corrosive. Not entirely sure, however! Thank you so much for your support and feedback! I really appreciate you!
@@shipwrecksunday that's what I've heard, the middle sags too much. Although the great lakes can get big waves, it's nothing like how the ocean gets. Also I think the communication & navigation equipment is different, & it's too expensive to retrofit the freighters to go in the open ocean.
Very, very nice and equally interesting. You clearly have a knack for producing quality videos about ships and shipping in general. You may have talked about it in the past, so forgive me if you have to repeat yourself...how did you ever come to have such an interest in ships?
Thank you so much! When I was a little girl, I loved watching James Cameron's Titanic and for my 6th Christmas or birthday, I can't remember exactly which, my mom got me the book Robert Ballard's Titanic (I still have it!). That is where it all began! 😁
I have wondered for a long time how these super long ships stay afloat. They look like they would break in half. I am so happy to have better safety policies. I’m sorry it took many sailors to die to get these measures into place. Haha as I’m typing you mentioned the November storms and how many ships were lost during this extra dangerous times.
Especially in the 19th and 20th centuries, these ships were not super safe! They definitely buckled and if built before 1949, the iron in their hulls was lower grade and weak, highly susceptible to the cold waters. I agree, though, they do look like they should break back at any moment! They are an incredible evolution in engineering. Cheers!
I'm going to be doing them one at a time most the time (they take roughly 2 to 3 days to complete)! But I do have a memorial service coming up for my grandmother at the end of July and I'll be getting the videos for that week done as early as possible to enjoy time with my family that comes into town! I really appreciate you!
@@shipwrecksundayElinor just watched a couple of waterline stories videos. He is great. Reach out to him and be friends. You would both push each other but still help each other. The content would be crazy good. Think about it. Have a good week.
Hard to believe that it's been 49 years since Jesus called the Fitzgerald Crew home to heaven . The Fitzgerald still gets talked about to this very day blessings from Martinsville Indiana Jesus saves
Hi Elinor i just whanted to ask you a question can you make a video about the oil spill and sinking of the Amoco Cadiz ? It's an american super tanker that got beached and sank nearby the french city of Portsall in Britanny in 1978 it was called the disaster of the century and be one of the most important ecologic disaster in History.
Now we're talking. Lakes are my domain and its great to see it covered haha.
Should be noted that as of 2024 there are 5 Lakers as museums that people can visit
SS Meteor - Superior, Wisconsin
SS Col. James M. Schoonmaker - Toledo, Ohio
SS Valley Camp - Sault ste. Marie, Michigan
SS William A. Irvin - Duluth, Minnesota
SS William G. Mather - Cleveland, Ohio.
Thank you so much for adding this! I'm going to pin your comment so others can see where these museums are! ❤
@@shipwrecksunday I've been on 3 of them. all are very enjoyable
Awesome. Thanks for the heads up ! 😃
These lakes never willingly give up thier secrets. And thier dead.
Never been a sailer but hats off and mad respect to these marineers.
Totally agree! They have the scariest jobs!
Fast Fact: The song "Wreck if the Edmund Fitzgerald" was written in a "sea shanty" rhythm, where you can basically hear the sailors going "Heave-ho!! Heave ho!!" It is an adopted Waltz rhythm: "One Two Three, One Two Three." It sticks with me because I took cotillion when I was eight and Gordon's sing came out when I was fourteen.
It's a beautifully written song! You can tell Lightfoot was incredibly intelligent and empathetic of the sinking!
I don't want to sound argumentative, but what version of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald are you talking about?
The song I've listened to since just about the time it came out in December of 1975 doesn't sound anything like "heave ho, heave ho"!
Two guitarists PeeWee Charles & Terry Clements came up with the haunting guitar rhythm.
The original version came out in December of 1975, just shortly after the Wreck happened. Gordon Lightfoot re-recorded the song in 1988, but it's not much different from the original.
Like I said, not trying to be argumentative, but it would be interesting where you come up with that??
@@Chevyman02 I don't know how you don't hear it. I've had two years of professional vocal training, sang lead vocals in a RUSH tribute band for two years and I sang in a choir for twenty years.
Perhaps, if you consulted with someone that performs music for a living, or if you went to a large church and spoke with the choir director they could give instruction in sea shanties.
@@The_Dudester I don't need instruction on sea shanties. It's not a big deal, it could be, I just don't hear the shanty style.
I do hear the old Irish folk style, so you could very well be right. It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong 🤣
@@Chevyman02 music is interpretive - I always just figure it sounds different to others than it does to me! I appreciate you sharing your perspective and being very respectful about it! ❤️ This is why our community if awesome!
As a Detroiter who lives six blocks from the Detroit River, I appreciate all Great Lakes shipping content. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for watching!
I'm 4 miles from Lake Ontario. Thanks Elinor
Thank you so much!
The Anderson is my favorite due to the fact that it Went Back in terrible seas to search for the Fitz... I look at a few Laker Channels. Thanks for this video. Keep up the good work.... From SW Michigan 😊
I'll have to look into the Anderson! Cheers, friend, thank you so much!
@@shipwrecksunday Thank you All ! Looking forward to your Sunday Offering. Best wishes.... and Fair Winds
I believe the William Clay Ford... Which was in port also went out to search
My dad was on the Coast Guard Cutter Woodrush when they went after the Fitz. Hearing his description of the storm was something, unfortunately I don't remember many of the details now.
Their called The Great lakes but their really inland Sea's. Because of the depths and cold temperature of the lakes they say they don't give up their dead. It's great that you listed all the different kinds of Lakers. Now when I watch videos of the ships I'll have an idea of what I'm looking at.
Very cool 😎 Elinor 👍
It's very true! They behave a lot more like seas than they do lakes, and they never release their dead, sadly. Thank you so much! Cheers!
Boats (built in fresh water) and Saltys built in salt. On the lakes the 183’ long cruise vessel I worked on was a ship v the 1,000 footer passing up in the Soo and that was a boat!
I always love seeing your comments and your perspectives, my friend! Cheers to you and those gorgeous freshwater beauties!
@@shipwrecksunday it’s sad so many old girls are gone! Seeing the 118 year old St Mary’s challenger converted to a barge is so sad granted its only been one for ten years!
Go figure, but that's how it is.
sitting under the bridge in Sarnia watching ships sail by eating french fries. life was good
Ah, I'd love to do that!
I always look forward to your videos Eleanor, thank you for your great work 🙏
@@JamesWylde thank you so much!! 😁
I like the new Friday videos
I'm so glad! Thank you so much!
Been in love with the boats since my first trip to Duluth thanks for the video!
Thank you so much for watching!
Another great vid.
BTW I love the looks of a house forward laker vs the newer house aft which looks to industrial & seems to have no soul to them
Totally agree - I love the pilot house in the bow!
An amazing video once again, Miss! I learned a lot and I am in love with this new series, Fan Facts Friday. Thank you for another great video!
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it, my friend! 😁
Good job 👍👍👍
Very interesting indeed...
Thanks so much!
Really interesting! Thanks!!
@@PatriciaFranz-dp7gk thanks you so much for watching!!
I heard about a ship on the lakes with a 13 ft gash in her hull , cool vid Elinor 🇺🇸💯😂
That's Michipicoten.
Michipicoten. saw her enter Thunder Bay harbour personally
Thank you for watching, Rick! Great to see you! I'd heard of that one, but haven't personally looked into her.
Hope you don't mind me using your first name, but you out did yourself again Elinor. Great video!
The ocean is very interesting, i get interested in man's attempt to conquer water & it's deepest secrets, the great lakes just draws my attention. Maybe it's because i live in the Midwest, and closer to them? I've seen the lakes frozen over in the winter, I've driven over the Mackinac Bridge & seen the water below & wondered about the ships underneath.
Interesting, they can bring the "salties" in the great lakes, but the great lakes freighters are advised it's best not to go in the open ocean.
You're out doing yourself in the new series, loved the battleship video, this one is every bit as good.
Can you imagine being the captain of the Paul R. Tregurtha & taking that large of a ship through the Soo Locks, with only mere inches clearance on either side!
Looking forward to Sundays video, another installment of the great lakes.
Tim.
I have no problem with you using my first name at all! 😁 I think the lakes are so fascinating because they act like seas but are freshwater lakes! It's mind-boggling how big they are. Most of us experience lakes, but not lakes like that (unless you live in the area or travel there!).
As for the freighter in the seas, I believe it's because their middle sags in saltwater seas as the wave patterns are very different and the saltwater is very corrosive. Not entirely sure, however!
Thank you so much for your support and feedback! I really appreciate you!
@@shipwrecksunday that's what I've heard, the middle sags too much. Although the great lakes can get big waves, it's nothing like how the ocean gets.
Also I think the communication & navigation equipment is different, & it's too expensive to retrofit the freighters to go in the open ocean.
thanks Elinor i like that we get 2 videos from you now 😎👍👍💚💙🍺🍺🍻
I love that I get to make them!
Very, very nice and equally interesting. You clearly have a knack for producing quality videos about ships and shipping in general. You may have talked about it in the past, so forgive me if you have to repeat yourself...how did you ever come to have such an interest in ships?
Thank you so much! When I was a little girl, I loved watching James Cameron's Titanic and for my 6th Christmas or birthday, I can't remember exactly which, my mom got me the book Robert Ballard's Titanic (I still have it!). That is where it all began! 😁
Great video.
@@carolewoolley7017 thanks so much!
2:05 Liking the part where the evolution of the freighters is explained...they dont look like that for fun!
Thanks so much!
I have wondered for a long time how these super long ships stay afloat. They look like they would break in half. I am so happy to have better safety policies. I’m sorry it took many sailors to die to get these measures into place. Haha as I’m typing you mentioned the November storms and how many ships were lost during this extra dangerous times.
Especially in the 19th and 20th centuries, these ships were not super safe! They definitely buckled and if built before 1949, the iron in their hulls was lower grade and weak, highly susceptible to the cold waters. I agree, though, they do look like they should break back at any moment! They are an incredible evolution in engineering. Cheers!
Very cool Shipwrecker 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎👍
Thank you so much, dear friend!! 😎
@@shipwrecksunday You're welcome 😁 Shipwrecker
Thank you ! Train ferries next please
I can definitely look into some! Thank you!
@@shipwrecksunday The SS Badger is still active from Ludington Michigan and Manitowoc Wisconsin!! Daily
FYI, for anyone not knowing. A boat leans into the direction of a turn, while a ship leans away from the direction of the turn.
Love this! Thank you!
I like the fastback Friday. Are you doing them 1 at a time or a few at a time? Get some in the can and go on vacation.
I'm going to be doing them one at a time most the time (they take roughly 2 to 3 days to complete)! But I do have a memorial service coming up for my grandmother at the end of July and I'll be getting the videos for that week done as early as possible to enjoy time with my family that comes into town! I really appreciate you!
@@shipwrecksundayElinor just watched a couple of waterline stories videos. He is great. Reach out to him and be friends. You would both push each other but still help each other. The content would be crazy good. Think about it. Have a good week.
In my Opinion the Welland Ship Canal & the St. Lawrence Seaway Lochs should both be widened to allow larger ships to enter and traverse the lakes.
I think that's a great idea!
Hard to believe that it's been 49 years since Jesus called the Fitzgerald Crew home to heaven . The Fitzgerald still gets talked about to this very day blessings from Martinsville Indiana Jesus saves
So sad! I hope they are resting easy and their families are at peace with it ❤️
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Hi Elinor i just whanted to ask you a question can you make a video about the oil spill and sinking of the Amoco Cadiz ? It's an american super tanker that got beached and sank nearby the french city of Portsall in Britanny in 1978 it was called the disaster of the century and be one of the most important ecologic disaster in History.
I can definitely look into her! So far, you have piqued my interest! Thank you so much!
@@shipwrecksunday No probelm ;)
The first lock at Sault St Marie opened in 1855 not 1885.
@@johnstudd4245 thank you for this correction!
Chyeah!
Heck yeah!!!
👍🙏
Thanks so much!
Edmund Fitzgerald did suffer a stressing on the metal
Thank you for adding this!
Thank you man