Doctor who helped catch Lucy Letby calls for full public inquiry | ITV News
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2023
- The doctor who helped catch convicted murderer Lucy Letby has said there needs to be a public inquiry into the killer nurses' crimes, and has called for senior NHS executives to be held to account for failings.
Dr Ravi Jayaram, a consultant paediatrician at the Countess of Chester Hospital, repeatedly raised concerns about his former colleague, who was jailed on Monday.
Letby, 33, will spend her whole life behind bars after she was found guilty of murdering seven newborn babies and attempting to kill six more, following a 10-month trial at Manchester Crown Court.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has suggested an inquiry, announced by the government into the former nurse's crimes, could be placed on a non-statutory footing, telling broadcasters it should "happen as quickly as possible".
• Subscribe to ITV News on RUclips: bit.ly/2lOHmNj
• Get breaking news and more stories at www.itv.com/news
Follow ITV News on Facebook: / itvnews
Follow ITV News on Twitter: / itvnews
Follow ITV News on Instagram: / itvnews
![[adult swim] - Smiling Friends Season 2 Episode 5 Promo](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uStNEeR8LT4/mqdefault.jpg)
Dr. Jayaram deserves a huge apology for the way he was treated. God bless this wonderful Doctor.
@@WazHaz-mi4gwnonsense they were both concerned as they started noticing with her being the common denominator in all these coding episodes. And they were being threatened by the hospital and her father that they would make complaints to the medical board. Get your facts straight.
@@michaelangel25What's your point? such mundane thinking you possess when there are far more important things to be concerned about!
Don't worry, that reply from @wazhaz has been said under everyone being complimentary to Dr. Ravi. (I think he is desperately trying to argue for the sake of arguing lol) no one can compliment anything anymore .... "I love pancakes '......so why do you hate waffles???" (did under my comment too lol)
Dr Breary isn't talking. Dr Jayaram is. They were warned of serious 'consequences' if they went to the police.
@@WazHaz-mi4gwYour just rascist cause he is an Indian ,getting some attention,and you don't like it,still stuck in your colonial past eh?
Senior Managers should 100% be prosecuted. Don't let them get away with it!
agreed 100%
😂 if you think that will happen think again. The worst corporate man slaughtered this Country has ever seen Hillsborough…. Biggest cover up of state, Government, police and media. Nothing happened no one went to jail.. so you’ve got no chance not in this corrupt Country.
Those so called senior managers must definitely be taken to task cos they enabled Lucy by not listening to doctors that worked on that neo natal unit!!Shame on those senior management!!!
it's heartwrenching 😢😢What she did to those helpless little babies 😮😮😮
They are as guilty for not listening to the doctors concern, they are hiding from the truth!
I’ve lived in Chester all my life, was born at the Countess and was treated by Dr Jayaram as a child when I had a serious injury. He is a fantastically kind and caring doctor and I can’t begin to fathom the treatment he has received from Letby and Countess executives. To see that someone who personifies all the qualities of a good doctor, has been made to feel helpless and traumatised by a sadistic nurse and selfish hospital execs who only care about protecting themselves, feels so unbelievably unjust. The government owes it to the families of these children, as well as all the staff on the neonatal unit, who spent years being ignored and then threatened by hospital execs, and gaslit and betrayed by Letby, to hold a full statutory public inquiry. Anything less is yet more pain and insult to those who have already been dealt so many blows.
Well put! 💙
Absolutely right.
How could the management ignore what several doctors said to them.
We don't need to waste more tax-payers money. We need a complete overhaul of governmental structure which allowed this to happen. And I mean replace every single one with a rep for the people.
@@ryand141 The government shouldn't be in the healthcare business. They can't even run a proper post office.
How humble is that man, he doesn’t want to be a hero, he would rather it never happened and the babies were still alive! That’s the showing of a great doctor!
Doctors like him are rare I've met some brilliant ones and some cold dismissive ones. My GP is fantastic he's been my doctor for 18 years and he knows me well I can tell him anything and he doesn't bat an eyelid. I collasped once in the surgery and all the alarms went off and the GP's came rushing out and when I came round my GP was the one treating me and he knew I was uncomfortable with everyone making a fuss and staring so he and the others moved me to a consult room for privacy. I've never forgotten that and thankfully I was fine nothing serious. Those hospital managers should face consequences for their behaviour and allowing Lucy Letby the opportunities to kill and hurt more babies!
I heard he was having an affair with Lucy
@@partypatsy1keep smoking crack moron
Wow the Medical Director who retired to France, absolute coward. He and pther managerial staff should face consequences
And doctors who are skilled should be paid more than managers who sit in suits having pointless meetings and doing nothing
The lord of the worlds has those babies safe and sound, each parent will be guaranteed paradise due to their extreme pain and immense life long suffering. Those parents are peoples of paradise… heart broken here but not forever… whereas those who oppress and kill, well we will see a punishment come down on them unlike anything they have ever seen. I also have lost, and I sit and wait for justice, it is coming…
@@shadowlatifah Heh.
Mind Begs the Question:
Hitler - shifted blame for Nations Failures on Religious Minority
If Politicians/Govts - shift blame for Nations Failures on Vulnerable/Migrants
Practicing Hitlers Mein Kampf,no?
Consequences? Did you see what just happened recently with 'the pandemic'.
Honestly. You people. 😂
Damn that’s truly messed up. He reported her multiple times but management ignored him and she kept on killing more babies.
The worse thing is the management showed no interest to investigate. They were force to investigate after so many babies were murdered.
They didn’t just ignore him, they made him apologise to her.
Thats exactly what happened...and they will all get a big fat pay off, and retire or move on to somewhere else
I would like to know her motive behind killing those premature vulnerable babies..
@@RNIIVI1985No motive and no history of psychotic behaviour, makes one wonder....? Google on the Dutch nurse Lucia de Berk case, it is very similar and she was jailed for life, only to be declared innocent when new evidence came along. Then Beverley Allitt who "confessed" to killing babies but neither she nor the police could say how it was done. She is in a mental hospital for the last 30 years.
Dr Ravi Jayaram was my pediatrician when I was growing up. Knowing that he is genuinely one of the loveliest kindest people on the planet makes this even more heartbreaking. Makes me want to cry seeing him put into such a horrific situation. Being such a genuinely good man, in a way im glad he was there, so that he could help to stop it. This guy inspired me to want to be a doctor when i was a teenager (i didnt go through with it though because im a bit dumb). My heart goes out to all the victims' families and all the staff who fought to out and end to this horror.
Never say you are dumb
It might be a horror, but it would be an even worse horror if the wrong person has been imprisoned for life. This does need to be examined because we have not even heard her side of the story. We have not heard a proper defence. I can imagine that when she first heard she was being targeted and accused, she wanted to check through all the records to find out the truth, and I bet that is what she was trying to do, but the facts were twisted. Her voice was not heard or listened to. We have not been given the full story because there are issues with the feeding system, plumbing etc, that would have implicated the hospital management, not Lucy Letby, and so my guess is that this is a huge attempt at covering up.
Don't you dare call yourself "dumb" because in judging yourself that way, you are bound to judge others also.
So, pack that in.
@@louiserussell8267 Lucy had a travesty of a “trial”….. Anonymous witnesses, prevention of Defence witnesses testifying….awful, shambolic.
This doctor is amazing and I’m disgusted that he wasn’t listened to.
Might be he is not White if a White doctor said they might have listened the members of the board are not matured enough to understand or realise the facts and recognise the reality
He is a good man, I hope he has a nice retirement saved and is getting paid for these interviews because he isn’t going to be a doctor much longer sadly…..if he hasn’t already “retired”….they may leave it a while but he will be forced out eventually. He is better off starting his own private practice maybe
Were you disgusted when good doctors and nurses spoke up about the potential harm of the c19 jabs and the mandates? Maybe Nurse Lucy is NOT guilty.
@@roryteal5940 I know all about c19 Bs scumbags but hey ho sheep world…but let’s not chat ish, she is doing life for a reason same thing “The angel of death” did she killed innocent babies some of which had illnesses that weren’t serious and would have gone home until she did what she did, there were crushing injuries on one of them….you can believe that c19 is Bs and used by elites on the sheeple population but you can’t believe there are evil pieces of 💩 like her?
@@roryteal5940man shut up 😂
Dr Ravi is a true hero!! But my god you can see the trauma in his eyes.
Cause he said previously that he saw her once standing by one of the babies while oxygen was dropping, he rescued that baby at the right time, and regardless of him reporting that, he was forced to be silent about it and to apologize to her. I guess he's been left feeling like he wish he could've done more at the time.
He looks distraught ☹️
This is a horrific case. Vulnerable patients are at risk: from newborns to the frail elderly in nursing homes (a place I never want to be).
I was really touched by the depth of Dr Ravi’s concern, and reassured that there are still brave people out there who care enough to put themselves on the line for us! Yes, hero for sure! I think it’s safe to say that this good Doctor has the support of every parent and every patient! We applauded you!
The problem within our society is that everytime someone does the right thing he/she is a hero. This doctor said it right. He said I'm not a hero, I did the right thing. If people start to behave normally and do the things the right way, wake up from the woke culture then things go back to normal. Doctor said I'm not a hero. Respect his view. Try to understand what he said.
She is not the only one that needs to be in prison. The board members and anyone who closed their eyes in that hospital too. With a managment like this the patients are still in danger in that hospital.
strip their pensions off them too
as they trusted her so much they should chuck them in the same cell as her
Agree 😢😢😢
True, great point
They didn't just "close their eyes", they castigated, humiliated, crucified and silenced the brave whistle blowers who brought the actions of Letby to their notice. Shame on all of them and the NHS culture that allowed this. This has to change and make 'administrators' and ALL NHS employees accountable and sackable without perks, pay offs and pensions.
The NHS needs more doctors like this! What a good man. He did his job over and above and got told to shut up... there needs to be accountability.
Dr. Ravi actually cares about the tiny babies. He is passionate about caring for kids. It’s unconscionable that the sick monster was able to keep harming tiny children because SHE needs special care and they don’t!!!! The depth of evil is … we don’t even know.
Dr Ravi is genuinely lovely. He really cares about his patients and their families. He looks like this terrible ordeal has aged him. I hope can heal from all this
Yes, I hope you manage to Dr Rav.....
These problems go back to the 80’s-90’s when the government decided to appoint “professional” managers instead of promoting doctors into these positions
That's the problem in every trade. You have MBAs directly launched as managers.
Spot on.
Ummmm... medical professionals are just as bad, imagibe Lucy Letby or Harold Shipman as a NHS director!!!!
so going by your logic, we should get rid of all doctors and nurses at every hospital because they might become a murderer? 🤣
@seythis no, just saying they shouldn't be running hospitals just because they're doctors/medical professionals, as the OP suggested.
Dr. Jayaram, thank you. As a mom from across the pond in Canada I thank you for being the kind of man who stands up for what’s right. You say that’s “all” you were doing, but to parents and our vulnerable babies that is everything. It’s a “David and Goliath” situation you’re in and man if you could use our appreciation to fuel your super power, Goliath would have a behemoth on his hands. ☺️ So much love and gratitude to you, and so much respect, Sir.
Ppppppp00p0000ppppp
I'm an MD in Canada, and it is THE SAME here: absolutely no accountability for the executives/management. They have no incentive to have things work properly, even: no matter what goes wrong, it is never their fault, at best they will order an external review and that review will never investigate them. Many of the senior management know each other personally, across Canada.
Basically, the system is as follows: the senior management is INVULNERABLE. Someone will be the scapegoat, a small time manager perhaps, but those in actual power are accountable to NO ONE, and they know it.
When he choked up a little, I was struggling! What he's been through is bad, the action required of him, with no support from upper management, is ridiculous. I hope his example and his push for change will not just fade into the background. If I ever have a child, I hope to find a doctor like this looking after me. ❤
As a registered professional, I completely agree with what this doctor is saying ! If I as a registered professional was to do something wrong I would be expected to face the consequences , so why should a manager or senior person under no professional body not face any consequences! Something needs to change .
They are petty bureaucrats , not " professionals " .
They know they can't be caught and neither have to be answerable in court like the doctors or nurses and they pressurise these professionals to get the outcomes they want ...
because they are not in direct contact with patients and have not sworn any oath to do no harm, they feel they should be exempted....They all have business and management degrees, so who do you report them to?
Many who prove to be sanctimonious are often very bad and dark at heart...
God dey!
@@adebisiadeyemi8950 there should still be some disciplinary procedure for them , anyone who is involved in service in a hospital setting has a duty of care in one way or the other ...
is there not somthing like a profressional bureacrats?
@@kamus2478
I'm an NHS Register Nurse with 49 years unbroken service - Senior NHS Trust managers will do everything possible to prevent or cover up bad publicity even ignore potential patient risk and safety factors if they're able to prevent bad press, it's absolutely correct that when Clinicians make serious errors judgement they are held accountable and may have their registration withdrawn, Yes, it will indeed result in bad publicity but the difference being that the Trust now have their preverbal "Sacrificial Lamb" - NHS Managers aren't registered therefore, apparently not accountable, dismissing an NHS manager is a complex and long drawn out process in addition dismissing a manager will result in bad publicity, the very thing which managers strive to avoid, the manager whom commits a similar serious error of judgement such as ignoring a whistle blower will often be "moved sideways" to another department within the Trust organisation - thats exactly how your kind, caring and all encompassing NHS Service operates!
This is
happening in education as well. I got out because when I reported poor practice and really bad management I was made to feel like an irritant and nothing was done.
I worked in a small hospital in the USA for 40 years and it was always political. Mistakes were always covered up or not reported at all especially if a senior level doctor was at fault.
@@janetward2456When you reported a serial killer...??? Was it just the same???
@@joycewright5386Mistakes like baby killers? Even in your small hospital, in the US?? They were covering it up, were they??
Move sideways .... same principle as the Vatican!
What a disgraceful sham, covering their backsides while abuse continues.
Bring all of these managers to justice, they need to be in prison each and every one of them.
Wheres their remorse or apology? Or trying to fix it?
@@amytiffanyhemingway they can never fix it the damage has been done.
Dr Ravi is a hero, you can see the pain through and through.
And they made him and others apologize. Unbelievable.
He certainly is.....He's marvellous.....So good-looking too.
He did not go to the police.
i having worked for many years as a senior nurse at this trust i am finding this a very difficult case and verdict,i am welcoming a full judicial review of this case.
All management in that hospital should be hold accountable and punishment should be applied,this could've been avoided if the management would've done their work diligently and not closing their eyes and ears when others raised the alarm!!!
Very true, poor management let her do it again and again
They didn't close their ears. They listened and actively punished the doctors instead.
Those managers should done for corporate manslaughter but that won't happen they all got pensioned off or moved elsewhere
Just like the recent griftdemic.
Dont hold your breath... theres massive profits to be made.
Indeed why did they close their eyes to the red flags!
The helplessness the management made him feel is real torture.
Managers must be made accountable for this horrendous case . They were told of concerns months earlier.
Exactly.
My husband was overdosed by agency nurse. He died only good blood sugar in Macclesfield general
I had awful experiences with a doctor when my mum was dying. I complained and complained about how my mother was being treated. The supposed complaints went to an 'impartial' person working at the same hospital. They basically said, move your dying mother to another hospital if your unhappy. They couldnt find anything wrong with their awful behaviour 🙄
No where nearly the level of Lucy Letby but from personal experience, they seem to care very little about the actual behaviour of staff.
The pain in Dr Ravi’s face is absolutely heart breaking
You can see it clearly
This accomplice should have gone to the police.
@@TheFreemanuk I'm willing to bet my house that you haven't done a fraction of the good he has in his life, even before this debacle. Keep insisting to us the right way this difficult situation should've been handled tho. Seven doctors did try their best, but I'm sure you would've done better.
There needs to be a completely confidential and independent body for NHS staff to report any suspicions they may have about colleagues or management. It’s absolutely ridiculous to leave the onus in the hands of trust bosses who will try to cover up misdemeanours in order to protect their hospital and this case shows that in every way. Not only did the ceo not want to do anything but neither did senior nursing management. Personally all the management involved in denying they may have a killer on the neonatal unit have blood on their hands and should be held accountable, publicly named and also forfeit their massive pensions that the taxpayer pays for. They helped a killer and therefore they are guilty too.
They would be overwhelmed with 98% of false information or salty people
Independent bodies that do exist in many organisation's are also equally useless
Agree. The trust bosses should be criminally liable for hiding evidence & consultants were told to write misleading cause of death & not the actual cause & their pensions in millions should handed to those bereaved parents who babies were murdered & attempted to murder - the whole process by the NHS hiding the truth was disgusting for over 2 years
@FredaFlynn2008 Well said!
@@moneytttt1140 I don't think doctors routinely accuse their colleagues of premeditated murder. It's real life, not a movie.
This man made me cry for his heroism and for being there to save other babies. He is a hero. We need these man and lots like him to protect our childrens. This case was so painful 😢😢
As an NHS worker i find it so upsetting that’s it’s taken something as disturbing as this for the lack of support and the bullying directed towards whistleblowers to finally be acknowledged. I’ve worked in many different NHS Trusts and every year we have the same staff surveys with the biggest complaint being that concerns simply aren’t listened to or are brushed under the carpet. I think most NHS staff, especially clinical, could expose a lot of malpractice that simply wasn’t taken seriously. The whole safeguarding system needs to be changed, it should be impartial and unbiased and include outside experts.
Doctor, you were Brave, Bless you..
Keep on being A true hero!!
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
Dr RJ needs a pay raise and promotion.
He should of gone to the police and forgot about his job but instead he put his job first fearing being fired if he got the police involved to the hospital
@@caramelbilqueesyou have no idea what happened.
@@caramelbilqueespiss off like you would he did all he reasonably could. People have bills to pay
Managers in the medical establishment are usually wrong but never apologise.
Yes the hospital administrators acted as if they were responsible for solving the crime rather than being concerned enough to start a process of an in depth investigation
All these people need to be held accountable and face prison time. Its not like someone was in charge of a shop they where in charge of babies lives and if there was any suspicion they should be put on temporary leave until it is made sure she's not a danger
Bless you Dr Ravi for doing the right thing.
why didnt he call the police?
@@oldboyengineer9794 it's goes against his job
He knew she was murdering children but didnt call the police. The guy is cupable in my book. @@warlord1207
He could do this anonymously...
@@oldboyengineer9794he & his colleague Dr Brearly explicitly asked the CEO whether the Trust should call the police. They were told “all emails cease forthwith”.
as a fellow nurse im appalled and horrified that the staff couldnt do anything and the management didnt intervene. instead they didnt want to be sued. they rather put her in a bigger
pediatric facility and move her to a bigger position. to appease her. dont be afraid! tell the truth! uphold honor in our profession . uphold due diligence to do no
harm. yes please re-evaluate medical people.
As a decent normal humal human being, YOU GO TO THE POLICE.
Yes, hope the parents sue the hospital for billions as a deterrent to other hospitals who may want children to die rather than get off their backsides and actually do something!!
As someone has worked in the NHS, (albeit for a shorter time period than the Doctor in the video) I have had managers that are brilliant but have also had managers that are abusive, negligent and harmful to the patients and staff that they are supposed to support.
More robust procedures are absolutely necessary so that these individuals don't act like this with impunity.
Well done Dr RJ for speaking up and holding the bosses accountable for their actions, despite the raw nature of this situation. Must be so difficult for you, but you've done the right thing
This doctor is a superhero.
@@WazHaz-mi4gwno it was him 😅
@@WazHaz-mi4gwGive it a rest! 😠
@@WazHaz-mi4gwshut it karen
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
What an incredible human being that Doctor is. We need a lot more people like him in positions of influence in society.
Sadly racism put him down
No we need intelligent people who GO TO THE POLICE.
U can see from the doctors reaction that over all these years he was either held responsible for these days or thought of himself to be responsible. U can see that he probably lived in pain and even guilt over how these lives were lost despite his and his good colleague's efforts .
The pain inthe expression at the end was so genuine... even i couldnt help tearing up
This is the result of removing any proper hierarchy from the workplace. If a qualified and experienced Doctor says an inexperienced nurse needs supervising then this should have immediately been the case. Shame on the Managers for this.
Makes my blood boil! at the thought of their lazy incompetence and arrogance.
unfortunately there are quite a few reports of doctors with a god complex who bully nurses, hospital staff and junior doctors and abuse this sort of hierarchy. Not excusing the hospital, but I imagine, given the time in which this occurred, they were concerned that this was yet another case
Exactly
Thank you for standing up to the Trust Managers and Leadership Team 🙏🏽
@@WazHaz-mi4gwwho went to the police then? Not sure what you're trying to achieve by lying.
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
Dr Alison Timmis, a paediatrician, emailed Tony Chambers, the hospital’s chief executive, in December 2015, reporting that staff were in tears because they were being forced to look after more babies than the unit could safely accommodate.
In her note, copied in to other senior managers, she told him: “Over the past few weeks I have seen several medical and nursing colleagues in tears . . . they get upset as they know that the care they are providing falls below their high standards.” Staff at the Countess of Chester Hospital were “chronically overworked” and she felt “no one is listening”.
“This is not an exceptionally busy week,” she wrote. “This is now our normal working pattern and it is not safe. Things are stretched thinner and thinner and are at breaking point. When things snap, the casualties will either be children’s lives or the mental and physical health of our staff.”
As a person who wishes to have faith in our criminal justice systems I am extremely concerned with the total lack of real evidence used in the conviction of Lucy Letby,.
Many NHS managers think they are untouchable. They usually get moved on to other positions without any accountability. Favouritism, deceitfulness and outright bullying are common place in the NHS.
Absolutely! 03:51 "Is priority speed??" Young precious life was taken away in the most cruellest way, and yet those who had the authority failed miserably to safe guard the innocent vulnerable babies. I have a family member who was born premature (28 weeks) 1.43kg and it was the doctors and the nurses at the Neonatal Care who fought for his life day and night - now the baby has grown up healthy and he's 24 years old Senior Podiatrist working for NHS Trust in London. His Mum always reminded him of that, and that's the reason he went back to serve for NHS. Lucy Letby does not represent NHS, she belongs to a 'psychopath club'.
She’s more of a sadist than a psychopath as one psychiatric professional stated.
You dont need authority to go to the police. He did not.
No proof of guilt beyond reasonable doubt!
If you are suspicious of someone killing anyone & you're a,doctor or nurse. Go to the police straight away...not you're bosses.
She shouldn't have the right to not attend court sentence. She lost her right when she took a life of a baby.
What is wrong with our prosecution system, bring her to court and let her sit in front of these people to face her crimes. Those families have been damaged beyond words . No sticky plaster will ever heal their wounds.
Wake up Britain and step up to protect the innocent lives not the criminal this is so wrong
She pleaded "not guilty" - suppose you were in fact innocent but found guilty, would you want to be called the "angel of death" and face the angry and vindictive parents if you knew you hadn't done anything? If she is so evil and crazy, why was she not committed to a mental institution? Harold Shipman had a motive - he changed his victim's wills in his favour, but what motive did Letby have? Google on the very similar nurse Lucia de Berk case. She was found guilty and jailed for life but 6 years later, new evidence came to light and she was declared innocent and freed.
If that would have been in the US should would have been dragged out in shackles and chained to the table.
Well you're media called her angelical 🤡🤣
@@yiman7370 well the media is not the judge.
You are a hero. You can see the compassion from the outset. Top man. Such a shame with the whole situation.
I'm interested to know why none of the doctors called for autopsies on any of the babies? Why were the deaths of 5 of the babies officially recorded as due to 'natural causes'. Why weren't autopsies performed on the 2 babies whose cause of death was officially deemed as 'undetermined'?
This consultant is absolutely traumatised and exhausted. And deeply grieved.
A baby killer in prison won't last
They did but unfortunately the "Executive Officers" (who are not NHS staff and btw are paid more than the Prime Minister)were so more interested in "Trust Values" and have had no responsibility. Most of them have either retired on a gold-plated pension or been moved across to another Trust to spout on about"Trust Values" to another potential Murderer.. Every single one of them should be held as accountable and brought to trial for Criminal Negligence.
Many Chief Execs are ex civil servants who move from one Trust to the next causing chaos wherever they go. The whole system needs an overhaul.
This man makes my skin crawl. More will come out about this in the future and I am not entirely convinced he is who he tries to portray.
4:15 absolute legend !! JUST DOING HIS JOB OF PROTECTING BABIES !! As a father of a newborn son this news is horrific to me, im absolutely terrified of the neo natal ward and leaving my baby unattended for a split second.
NHS trusts and staff should not be allowed to investigate themselves or their staff, because it will never be done properly.
Exactly, naturally people will be very bias with people they work with or are familiar with
"We investigated ourselves and found that nothing was wrong"
Exactly. My mother was literally bullied why dying of cancer. The independent NHS worker at the same hospital found nothing wrong 😮 Told me our best option was to move my near death mother to another hospital
Same as LP in the Nicola Bulley case! Investigated their own incompetence and failings. Should not be allowed! This country is an absolute joke.
They had an independent consultant evaluate and she recommended they carry out forensic investigations for the first 3 babies death. That was in her report but they ignored it and said nothing suspicious was found!!! Then told the doctors to apologize. Jesus!!! How are the board not in jail for this obvious cover up
Bless this doctor, just had a horrible experience with nurses at a hospital in West Midlands right now myself, these nurses ain’t the same as before it’s just disgusting the attitude and power trips etc
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
All them senior officials in charge at the time either retired or moved on they all should be accounted for as their just as guilty as that monster of a woman. Find them, arrest them and punish them.
I'm disgusted that Ian Harvey was allowed to get away with such misconduct. He was advised to do a forensic investigation and did not. Plus, forcing the Specialists to apologize was just horrendous.
Those retired NHS management should have their pension stalled. Just because they have retired doesn't mean they can't be prosecuted. The families should take a civil case and sue them to hell.
Pensions taken away! Full stop.
Absolutely. Derelict of duty at the very least. Take their pension. They failed woefully in their duty of care.
I totally admire theses doctors especially Dr Ravi, sense of frustration is all to obvious. You can see how emotional he becomes when asked if he thinks that he is a hero.
As a retired nurse/midwife all I can say to this group of doctors is thank you for not giving up and I am horrified that you were not listened to, and I'm sure that the majority of people in this country think the same.
Lucy Letby Will Rot In Jail
He’s pretty darn pleased to be called a hero.
There’s something about this whole thing that isn’t sitting right…
Correct me if I am wrong however .... Imagine you were 99% confident one of your colleagues at work was a mass murderer. Would you tell your boss about your concerns and ask them to deal with it or would you ring the police directly. If you told your boss and after months nothing was done would you then decide to take matters into your own hands and call the police.
This is a well paid, intelligent, capable person. I don't think the excuse of "I told my manager about my concerns" is really good enough.
Dr Ravi deserves an award for coming out and saying what he saw unfortunately no one listened to him! God bless him !
Absolutely agree!
AMEN!
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
I'm sick of sobbing ... Country needs FIXING
Turn back to God, that’s the answer.
2 Chronicles 7:14
if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
England needs to stop giving leeway based on someone's skin colour they purposely ignored miss demanors because shes WHITE smh 🤢 and the professional that exposed is brown. Disgusting anyone that looks like her should be heavily vetted twice as much.
Now isn't the time for your ancient fairy tales@@marias6583
I was seriously injured on duty in NHS. Poole hospital misled pension ombudsman after it took 13 years to get my permanent injury pension. Not one person sacked for lying!
This man has a big heart. 😢
The garbage hospital management should apologise to the good doctor. Pathetic how they didn't believe him.
The "garbage" hospital management shouldn't still be working! hopefully they are on the scrapheap where they belong.
Really disgusting that he is being blamed for not speaking up loudly enough. All of those Managers need to be named, shamed and held accountable. He had his job and reputation threatened and he needed to speak loudly! He's the expert and should have been listened to!.
Haven't seen any one bash
@@Monk-Ehe was accused by the managers and staff nurses of not being vocal enough. Also his colleague - another senior paediatrician. And the other duty nurses. He was made to apologise to an opportunist, extremely narcissistic killer who complained that she was being scapegoated for failures in treatment. The management decided that Letby was one of them, in her character, and went along with it.
@@terryquinn5450 Best comment ever! Could not have articulated it better myself.
When babies are piling high you GO TO THE POLICE.
I think ALL. the Nurses, Doctors and Consultants, Who were in charge of caring for these babies should be thoroughly investigated . Afterall we dont want to see yet another miscarriege of justice happen over shoddy investigating practices by the police and whole life sentences given out on circumstantial evidence.
They did ok. Staff rotas were investigated for o er a year. The only person ob shift for every death and near miss was Letby
As soon as any professional dr raises any concern regarding any other dr or nurse they should be instantly put on garden leave until a complete and full investigation has been done.
Management in British organizations is becoming mirror images of American culture. Those responsible should be sued for damages until they are moved to live in the streets.
Dr Ravi ,🙏🏻Thank you
@@WazHaz-mi4gwGive it a rest!
How can 5 or 6 senior paediatric consultants have their concerns dismissed by a NON medical person? It should have been dealt with within 24/ 48 hrs of them first mentioning it if only to remove the nurse in question while investigations were done, it’s if no coincidence that letby was on duty every time a death occurred, where was the ward sister? Where was the matron For this ward ? Then. For senior management to make the consultants apologise to letby it’s absolute madness. There needs to be a full PUBLIC ENQUIRY and not let this get swept under the carpet 😡
The offender has to be in the court room! If they become uncontrollable in the courtroom, then drag them out by any means necessary. And after they are dragged out, give them severe penalties for their behavior in the courtroom. Victims have a right to see the offenders in court. The courts need to think more about the victims and less about the offenders.
Unless the management is criminally held accountable, this will happen again. If they know they will be held accountable only , without hidingbehind tax payer funded NHS lawyers, they will act in the future without delay. Without this fear at heart no real change will happen. Pl bring cooperate manslaughter charges, against them.
Public inquiry?! Just how many public inquiries have come and gone and nothing really improves?! Just jail all who were negligent...now! 💯 From the senior management down to the cleaners...cut the rot and make them pay!
As a nurse I just don't get how the people at the so called top did not listen to one senior consultant let alone7highly educated people.They considered the feelings of one person over the innocent families who trusted the🏥 to care for their sick babies.The consultants had to write apology letters to this murderer but she got away with having to face and listen to the impact statements of the families.Once found guilty you should be forced to go to court to get your sentence and not be allowed to sit in the cells waiting for your lawyer to come and tell you your fate.
As a decent human being i would have gone to the police, not my wage payer.
@@TheFreemanuk I have a weird sort of deja vu that I can be sitting in an ambulance and a call comes out like a fall which are ten a penny-so common and en route I get a weird feeling that it's a code/cardiac arrest and we tend to work with the same people and if I'm not driving I might mumble about it being more than a fall and honest8/10times it was a code and my partner would ask me how I knew and I said I don't know it's a feeling and if we had someone with us and I said take everything in case my partner would always say do it as if she thinks it's more then it is.If I worked in such an important lifesaving unit&had such a feeling about someone/something and people weren't listening to me I would have to say I will give you so many hours to call the popo's in and if you don't then I will but even given that time frame I would be scared that if my suspicions of someone could do more harm would be horrendous I would just hope and check to see if it was their days off and pray they would'nt be working whilst the higher ups were deciding whether to call the popo's or not.Ofentimes your gut feeling is100%correct. I would pray I was wrong but when innocent people are at risk I would rather act and face the fallout if there was any later.
I work for the NHS and it does seem as though we have an excess of managers and not enough clinical staff. And medical staff are closely monitored and appraised but managers jobs are so vague and there does not seem to be any real accountability for them. I am so glad this consultant and others are pushing for meaningful change, and it is very impressive because it is difficult to speak up.
It’s called the devil. Some people are just evil.
Her evil was like that of a demonic child. She hadn’t properly grown up. She was effectively a little child inside who didn’t like the attention the other babies received. She felt threatened by them, almost as if they were competition. Her parents spoiled her no end. She was an only child. She also had a difficult birth apparently. So there may have been some resentment there. If I had a difficult birth then so will you sorta thing. Lucy to me looks like some stunted/arrested development.
@@AR_112Stop making excuse for her. Regardless of anything she is evil & demonic!!!
The Devil isn't real.
Stop looking for excuses for the flaws in humanity.
There's no supernatural force that drives people to such horrors, stop making excuses for them.
@@21Dazzlerthe devil is real. It’s not a supernatural entity, rather the nature of evil people. No excuses needed.
Keep talking doctor ❤
Senior management need to be held accountable! A full inquiry is extremely warranted!
I remember this doctor when my daughter was born he did everything to help genuinely lovely guy
Thank you for your courage Dr. Ravi and colleagues. Those in management must be held accountable. Horrible, terrible job they've done 😢😢😢😢 my heart goes out to the victims and families 💔💔💔💔💔
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
I watched Dr Jayaram on the ITV news last night & I was in tears that he said he was unable to save all of those babies, when he was asked if he was a hero. yes he was because even thro he was unable to safe all of those babies he was able to bring justice for them & the babies families..
Kelly Harvey Rees and Chambers should be held accountable for those additional deaths. Those murders could have been stopped and more babies could have been saved if only they did something.
Dr. Jayaram has his moment of Fame, he has been waiting for a long time!!!
My heart goes out to this man …
He didnt go to the police.
Super hero Doctor may God give him more power ✨🤲🏽
May God give power to him to talk for the babies' who's lives are taken away in the name of abortion. Those babies are not wanted so it's alright to do that.
He did not go to the police. This is mass murder not selling cars.
The ‘Senior’ managers must be made to go to Court and explain their actions and be sentenced too. Why is it not even considered that they are also guilty of being a part of the heinous crime committed by Letby by protecting and “hiding” her actions? They must all serve a prison sentence. Period.
I just can't understand how anyone could harm a baby..they melt my heart. 😢
That poor bloke, he's utterly traumatised. The management need serious punishment or anyone else on 160k pa will just do similar and then retire...
I feel bad for him 😞 I feel like he wishes he could’ve done more
We stand with this conscientious doctor. We mourn for the families, and those precious infants.
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
These NHS managers should face serious consequences. They are responsible for additional deaths.
So sad.
Brave chap. He obviously cares deeply about his job.
He hid the entire episode by not going to police.
Managers must be doctors/consultants. I hope all of this changes. Confidential reporting to external bodies when concerns rise about colleagues. Death penalty needs to come back. Mandatory attendance in court for criminals.
Dr. Jayaram is an amazing human being and my hero. He looks traumatised💔
All the doctors and nurses there at the time should be suspended. This doctor’s holier than thou attitude is appalling when he was there with her and should’ve done more.