'Babies could've been saved': Doctor who helped catch Lucy Letby blames hospital | ITV News
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- The doctor who helped catch child-killer Lucy Letby has told ITV News that babies' lives could have been saved if hospital bosses had contacted police sooner.
Dr Ravi Jayaram, who is a consultant paediatrician at the Countess of Chester Hospital, said he repeatedly raised concerns about his former colleague months before police were alerted.
In an exclusive interview, he has detailed to ITV News how executives at the top of the organisation at the time told him to “draw a line” under his suspicions and to apologise to Lucy Letby for his accusations.
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Having to apologise to a serial killer because you hurt their feelings is actually really sickening- I can't believe they made well respected doctors do this.
Racism, white privilege and white psychosis is real
Ikr? Unbelievable.
inst racism and toxic feminisM!!
@IntellegentBatMat you sound really intelligent rn. Dumbass
Sounds exactly like what this whole.society hs become. Don't look at evidence, don't be logical, and don't hurt the feelings of those social media deems worthy
This is so disgusting for a hospital not to listen to doctors taking care of these babies
And just like here in America white's killing babies of color smh
That hospital needs to be sued for a couple million £. Blood is on their hands and they need to compensate these babies' families and this doctor for the egregious negligence and distress they caused. Won't bring the babies back but will send a message.
Hypocrisy of modern UK. Recently woman who murdered baby deliberately in 3rd trimester ny taking abortion pills get out of jail. Feminazis trying to portray her as a victim. Abortion without questions asked legal till 6 months. Abortion in case of possibility of Down syndrome legal till birth.
@@utubefreshieno, the managers who dismissed their concerns need to go to jail.
@@captainross4706 Worse than dismissed, they actively bullied the doctors who were trying to raise concerns into silence with threats of destroying their career. All to hold up the pathetic 'image' of their hospital trust.
When Dr. Ravi said with tears in his eyes, "If the actions had been taken earlier, some of the babies would be going to school now" is so heart breaking. Love to the grieving families and huge respect to the doctor. We need more like him.
Many would be going too school but we need to find the ones going to school😅 That are the bullshit attitudes and vwey plain and
We do but we need to have Jo's ba l 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 The very start
I so love this place an this planet HOW CAN WE HELp our pl anet
Yeah he’s a great actor I
Must say. Oscar winning performance dr Ravi jayaram 👏
@@andyryan3756why do you say that you sicko ?
Yes we do he is a fantastic doctor
ALL THOSE HOSPITAL MANAGERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE DEATHS!
HOW DARE THEY CLAIM ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THIS WOMAN KEPT KILLING. ASK THE PARENTS HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT!
WE NEED TO START HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE
Those responsible should be STRUCK OFF and jailed - public should DEMAND that
They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.
I'm an MD in Canada and it is the SAME here, the management has all the power and are accountable to no one. Narcissistic, immoral bureaucrats. I've faced bullying from them.
What these doctors faced would 100% have happened in ANY hospital in the Western hemisphere. The killer b** is going to jail thank God, but them? never a shadow of a consequence.
Parents of dead children, please sue these managers into oblivion.
Oh and btw, nurses are unionized. Their unions are powerful, even against the management. Doctors have no recourse. You may be amazed to her this, but we are absolutely defenseless, as our College is only there to sanction us, never, under no circumstance, are they there to support us in any way.
@@niburu1508 Managers can't get 'struck off'.
100% agree. They willingly assisted the deaths
Dr. Ravi is a hero. He deserves a medal. The hospital authorities should be in the same cell as Lucy Letby
Absolutely correct 👏🏼
Nhs managers should apologise to him and then face prosecution
I genuinely hope the government will honor him and he others who forced this to be recognized.
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But Hospital Authorities won't be Punished for the Crimes they committed
WHY ARE THE MANAGERS NOT IN JAIL and the whistleblowers should be awarded !!
I think Lucy needed to be found guilty at trial first. Imagine if she was innocent and they were in jail. They’ll be sweating now though.
Whistleblowers are hated in the UK they become targeted individual's
@@aname5267 There's no problem suspending her on normal pay until a proper investigation takes place. Fact is no other nurse or doctor was on the ward on the same shifts she was, and there was evidence several babies had been injected with artificial insulin, that doesn't happen accidentally.
Agreed
@@tomsixsix to true
I feel so bad for this doctor! He knew something was wrong but had no proof. Then he was forced to apologize to someone he knew was a killer.
Yes. There was proof. The first baby had air injected into him/her...discovered on autopsy. The second had INSULIN injected. Revealed at autopsy...these were not 'mystery' deaths..not caught...red flags went up IMMEDIATELY - AND THE FIRST TWO TIMES- ,Lucy was the common denominator, as she would be with the other attacks/murders. So this was caught early on. Known murders. And execs let it ride- and staff unfortunately did not independendently call in pokice- and neither did the coroner's. Why?
Her father threatened to take these Dr's to the Medical Council could have lost their jobs this man has yet to apologize to these Dr's or indeed the grieving parents like his coward of a daughter could not face them
Been a nurse for 14 years now and I’ve never seen such an evil act. Poor babies. My heart is crying with their parents. Absolutely disgusting that the Trust let her slip for years.
What about abortion?
@@ED-xk5sb I never have assisted an abortion and never will. Abortion can be intentional or medical. Have you heard of the rule of epikia?
@@ED-xk5sbWhat has this to do with a monster deliberately killing premature babies you can agree or disagree but go onto an abortion rights site to say your piece
Open yours eyes... There's more to it when ppl pass such comments.
Heya I don't know much about what's going inside the wards but do you know any reason why they never kept CCTV cameras? Was it privacy reasons?
Make the managers ACCOUNTABLE
He's already given the line "lessons will be learned..."
100% let managers be on trial too
Name and shame, they need to be fired 😠
This whole case stinks of White Woman privilege.
More than fired!! Those managers need prison also. They are partly liable!! 😡😡
The management should be put on trial.
Definitely!
Bring the management to trial!!
Just pure speculation, but Id be intrigued to see if Lucy letby had any personal relationship with those managers.
@@ytshudshe did have a brief relationship with a doctor but I don't think he was senior management.
@@ytshudshe wasn't an ethnic....would have been treated differently if she was black or Asian I can assure you.
Hospital bosses MUST be investigated by the police! Babies had AIR and INSULIN injected into them- the babies did not do it to themselves! Lucy was the single commin denominator in each of those tragedies. Hospital bosses THREATENED the doctors careers.. how dare they!
Kudos to this consultant!
They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.
@@freespeech6999 it went further . It was the organised cover up of abuse of professionals by the professional gatekeepers- multiple murders and attempted murders of the most helpless and vulnerable- the attacks and murders continued. Police should have been called with the first air injections and insulin administrations. My heart breaks for the little one who collapsed multiple times- but fought to LIVE - two or three collapses in the space of a few hours before he lost the fight and died at the hands of this monster..I think she killed two of three triplets? How do the heartless hospital bosses look in the mirror? The parents? No words to console them. The ball can't stop here. Her bf, the married registrar who was on duty when she timed the attacks so she would come across glorious and committed to him. Haul his butt in.
These hospital managers NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their part in all of this !!!! This poor doctor was doing everything he could to tell them what was going on, and they flat out refused to do ANYTHING to help him 😕 He's a wonderful doctor and person, we need more like him ❤️
Lol of course they're not going to he held accountable, are you mad? They have their fall girl already.
The smug fatcats always walk away with massive pensions in these sort of scandals. They are never truly held responsible.
Dr Ravi helped saved my baby son's life when he was born prem, in an unrelated case. I can't believe people in charge could try and turn the blame on him he really is the best around, they should be ashamed.
What an insult to that doctor. Whoever ignored his warnings should be prosecuted.
Exactly. Very irresponsible hospital!! Drs know better.
AGREE!!!!
No they can't@@WaryofExtremes-realoriginal
Keep in mind she's white, he is colored, no way anyone is going to accept an accusation from him about her.
agreed. i hope the management gets sued by the family. maybe on the grounds of negligence?
Dr Ravi is so insanely strong. They really threw everything at him hoping to grind him down and give up hope, but the moment he got to speak to the police he had a clear head and only the thought of justice on his mind. Bravo.
I would be furious if I was this doctor and was treated like this by the hospital - then only to find he was absolutely correct.
The fact that it took 7 consultants, and management still didn't think to intervene is astounding.
Sadly there may be some doctors who care many sadly don't some nurses may care but most just don't. It it what it is.
@@WaryofExtremes-realoriginalthis is not proven and is not economical. What’s more sensible is having a system where whistleblowing is encouraged! Management should also be made accountable
Lots of people in power never do what is right... until AFTER they are personally impacted.
The top management did not make a change until AFTER they believed their jobs were at risk.
Bunch of jumped up pen pushers. They should be charged for willful negligence the disgusting pigs
Those useless managers should be prosecuted and in jail - their incompetence is beyond shocking and have blood on their hands .
"This child could be going school today" Strong words. What a Doctor.
Says the person who’s probably pro-abortion and calls the painful brutal murder of millions of babies a “right”.
He said 4-5 children actually😢
😢😢😢😢 true words
“There are babies that could be going to school now, but aren’t”?
What’s this guy trying to do, convince us that Letby did them a favor? Sure sounds like it. Because school sucks!
So should all tha aborted babies be going to school
It made me tear up to see the raw grief on Dr. Ravi's face when he said that the truly believed that the babies could have been saved. He knew what he was talking about and the thought makes me cry.
Legal action should be taken against mangers. This is shocking. Poor parents 😢
The trust managers who dealt with this matter should be prosecuted...they helped her to continue killing babies.
They're involved in something with her. That's why they tried to protect her. In any hospital in the world if more than 2 babies die the nurses on shift will be invistigated. How many babies she had to kill before they suspect her?!
Absolutely.
Amen. We really need hold managers accountable, they keep getting away with these cases over and over again.
@kitchenworker-they turned a blind eye to what was going on AND totally undermined and undervalued the expertise of the DRs who were raising the concerns.
Sounded like all they had to do initially is correlate her on shift schedule with the victims, which the police later did, to at least draw more conclusions/help shine light on her. @@topgtopg2658
Goes to show how absolutely toxic a work environment can be and how managers can be so incompetent. So disgusting and harrowing
Stop using the word "toxic" call it as it: CORRUPTED.
This is what happens when far left politics take precedent over common sense
they admin looked the other way because they were incentivized to do so. if they believed the doctors and called the police, and she was or wasn't, nobody would want to go to the hospital anymore. I wouldn't want to go there for an aspirin!
so they closed their eyes and hoped it woudl go away, so they could keep their fat paychecks and cushy jobs.
they should face some culpability, even if it is just getting personally sued by some of the latter parents for not stopping her sooner.
the hospital admin made a choice. a conscious choice. and if you don't want it to keep happening, then you heed to assign consequences.
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They’ll be looking for work because the hospital will/has fired them because of public outcry and multiple lawsuits from the parents of the babies!
I was a nurse and trust me, it's one of the most toxic environments I have had the misfortune in working in, most of which was caused by the ward manager.
Hospital bosses need to be charged and jailed.
Same happened in the hospitals here with Genene Jones in the US.
Hospital Administrators were warned over and over again that other staff were suspicious of her and infants deaths, but they refused to investigate because if they found out it was true, it would mean lawsuits and bad press for the hospital, so they quietly fired her. She then went to work for a pediatrician and continued killing children until she was finally caught
😱😡, I am so 😡
I remember that case. I live in Ireland but I believe she even got into an ambulance with a child she had already attempted to murder and ATTENDED to the child even when medics told her not too. Didn't she move around a bit to try and avoid detection? It shocking that hospital administration is so afraid of litigation they'd sooner let someone go on with all these suspicions.... 🤬 they are as guilty as sin....
@@marietighe6328 She got her excitement running the resuscitation efforts which is why she did it. She was at one hospital for some time until they kicked her out, then went to work for a private practice pediatrician until she left and was arrested while trying to get a job at OUR hospital !
@@frankdrevinpolicesquad2930. Yes that's what I was thinking when i heard about her and lots of people described her ENJOYING the attention. Its almost like Munchousen by proxy ( sorry i mispelled this) my god these people are so sick. I had limited information on this case. I still remember looking at a photo of her and feeling such a deep hatred for her. It's also traumatic for staff like you to believe that someone in your midst is a cold blooded killer. Its a healing profession and i can only imagine it must be hard to trust colleagues again. So sorry for this 😥❤️
@@marietighe6328Beverly Allitt was a case years ago never learned anything from that have they
Dr. Ravi should be honored for going above and beyond and saving countless babies lives. Can't believe the humiliation he must've felt when he was forced to apologize. The CEO threatening his job and career for doing the right thing is unacceptable!
Can't agree more!
Sadly, it very much looks like there was a racial factor to management decisions. I’ve seen this before- just not with such an extreme consequence.
The CEO and medical director should be fired for utter negligence, maybe even put behind bars for grievous dereliction of duty.
@@truthseeker3740 Not to mention, not trusted around kids.
Just the usual, typical institutional bureaucratic response to protect themselves
Seven doctors raised the alarm and they assumed so many babies dying was a coincidence? This is so sad. My heart goes out to all those families who lost their sons and daughters
not sad, evil. The nurse was evil, and the management wasn't incomeptent, they were evil as well. Good men and women stood up, fought against even, even swallowing their pride to save the lives of the most innocent
I hope that the management go to prison as well for child endangerment and for hiding, and assisting in, criminal actions that took the lives of multiple babies
Shows how super smart and intelligent people will discount their gut feelings. We have an intuition for a reason
Far left politics in NHS
Yep, that's right, seven doctors discussing it, for how long? One even stated they had a killer on the ward, but not one of the seven went to the police in all that time while those babies were being killed, as they thought by Lucy Letby (not to mention the suffering and injury to those babies that survived). They let her get away with it, because something something management, jobs, concerns etc.
@@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULTif they went to the police they would have lost their job and their reputation would have been harmed and maybe they wouldn't have found another job
This is what happens in a society full of cowards. Thank goodness for people like this doctor.
Senior management personnel need to be FIRED, FINED and IMPRISONED. This is gross negligence and must be PUNISHED!
7 consultants raised concerns and management didn’t listen to them!?? what sort of world are we living in. Truly sickening.
British elites love to protect child killers and rapists.
Remember Jimmy Savile?
Sums up English racists in one sentence
This is very common, sadly.. btw I work in the NHS
White privilege is real
The fact that 6 days before she was due to be back on the ward, the police became involved means that there was a desperate rush from the doctors, who were essentially putting their careers on the line, to stop her before another baby was murdered.
It's a reminder that there are plenty of good people left in the NHS and in the world generally. Heroes
They was desperate to destroy her because she reported him for failures of care
@@angrybrit129 What do you mean? This statement makes no sense.
@@angrybrit129 Stop the bullS.
Yeah, they’re not nurses.
@@angrybrit129 What about the notes in her apartment, were they planted?
Prosecution of those Hospital Managers involved is ESSENTIAL. - Tony Chambers and Ian Harvey.
Wow. I’m sorry these doctors were treated so poorly. My heart breaks for them, the families and the babies. 💔😢
Shame on the hospital management not removing her immediately from the unit. They owe Dr. Ravi and the victims an apology and a huge compensations.
Nobody understands how corrupt hospitals are.
Should have suspended her on pay, to allow an investigation, think of how many may have been saved, well we will never know, hindsight, or just plain common sense.
"shame"? The management, but most especially the CEO Hervey, should be sacked.
@@soniavadnjal7553they should be on trial for corporate manslaughter! Sacking is the least they deserve.
That hospital has to shut down.
As a retired nurse, I’m truly sickened that a nurse is capable of hurting ANYONE let alone a baby. My heart hurts.
I am a retired nurse, too. I am outraged, horrified, and it hurts deep in my heart and soul.
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She was a psychopath. They are wired like that. While nursing has a lot of Empaths who care about people, Unfortunately there are psychopaths in the nursing profession too coz it gives them access to hurt & abuse helpless people without consequences.
Exactly
@@globalcitizenn Exactly. I completely understand people's outrage at such a horrible crime but this person was obviously seriously mentally ill, a psychopath as you say. That does not excuse her - though there will be people who would certainly accuse us of trying to - but it does help to explain why she did something that otherwise seems unfathomable. To understand the mind of a criminal may help to prevent future potential cases like this by flagging up warning signs.....it might have in this case if it wasn't for the obvious lack of duty of care amongst incompetent NHS managers. How many of them will be called to account?
Too many nurses do harm patients. I speak from experience!
The odds of a celebrity consultant working beside a mass murdering nurse are so remote it's laughable.
Not from the UK and don't know this case closely, but I sincerely hope those managers have been prosecuted for their immense negligence, maybe even a sentence for contributing to man slaughter
The hospital executives should have known that a person that kills often blends in and can charm and fool people, and can come across as top performers. These doctors were treated very unfairly. The executives should be sacked and they owe the doctors an apology. The executives chose to trust a 20 year old nurse rather than doctors that have over 20 years experience. Disgusting.
Its hardly a new thing, many nurses have killed babies, and of course the most prolific British serial killer was a doctor.
Agreed. They also need to be prosecuted so they can never do this ever again.
Letby was 33yrs old not 20yrs
Not only sacked. The managers should be locked for life because they enabled her to do the crime. Managers were focused to cover up. They didn't care about babies. Let them rooth in prison. Bustars
@@khali1880 she's 33 now banana
He had to write an apology letter to the 'babies killer.' Get management NEXT, please.
Gut-wrenching to think that there are people out there capable of doing that to helpless newborns. Equally horrifying to think that they can easily slip through because of greed and incompetence.
The name of hospital need to be publicised.their criminal negligence should be treated at par with that evil woman
Our whole attitude to “whistleblowers” needs to change…..they speak out to protect the public. It is those who hold power,run the organisation,who don’t want their system upsetting.
💯%agree.
That's shoddy management for you! If this case doesn't prove that giving managers too much power over professionals is a terribly idea, then what will?
I have to wonder why nobody in charge of oversight of the actions of UK-based medical professionals learned a thing from the failures of various hospitals across the contiguous US of 1-time doc Michael Swango. There were warning signs that Lucy Letby was, like Mr. Swango in the 1990s, up to no good as a medical professional.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 exactly.
I completely agree, I can't understand how 'speaking out" is such a vilified thing
Did this wonderful, caring doctor ever GET AN APOLOGY to his face, as Lucy was deemed privileged enough to get? He deserved a thousand apologies to his face. And a bonus. I doubt he received either.
He probably won't. If anyone does apologise that is basically admitting they where responsible (which they are). And none of them seem to be willing to do so. Personally, I believe all the management should be held accountable. Either charge them (if they can), or at least fire them. Not a single one of them should be anywhere near Hospital management again in their lives.
If I were worried I’d go to the police directly.
I dont understand how they can leave her alone with a baby if there was even a slight chance she could be a killer. They were more worried about her feelings and themselves than the babies.
They were already understaffed.
So sorry for how Dr Ravi was treated. You are a superior doctor and you saved many more babies from her evil hands. God bless you.
Exactly... I felt bad of the babies who died.. but he has literally save countless babies from dying... Who new how many lifes she was about to tk in future...
Her side of story also seems to be doubtfull .. since shes a psycho ..
Maybe we'll see a netflix documentary on her soon
He should be promoted and rewarded for his courage
I totally agree with your comments. This gentleman has probably saved countless other babies who could have been killed by Lucy
Racism because he’s Indian
Because he is not cocaisian .
Good on him for standing up for what is right.
Hfe didn't tho, he apparantky saw her and yet did or said nothing
@@Andrea-ld9cy Well thanks for that comment. It made a lot of sense. Oh, wait... 🤔
@@Andrea-ld9cy I do not know whether to take your comment seriously. At that moment in time, all you are thinking about is the baby health's deteriorating and doing something about it. There is a procedure and time and place for making comments and from the report Dr Ravi and his fellow doctors did just that but the management were ineffective. Thank God the police were on the case after about less than 15 minutes with the medical staff.
@@Andrea-ld9cy Hey? He raised this years prior. He was shamed and made to look like a liar because he was brown and she was white.
what I don't get is why if lucy letby was working in that hospital from 2012 that nothing happened till 2015?
Dr Jayaram is a hero for never giving up.
The entire board should also be charged with manslaughter. Plain and simple. They ASSISTED in allowing her to continue to practice. They made professionals apologize to a monster. They deserve a harsh penalty as well 100%.
Those Managers should be held to account. They MUST be. And the NHS needs an overhaul of its management structure overall.
It's obvious that doctors should be listened to and not managers when serial murder is suspected.
A code of ethics for NHS bureaucrats is urgently needed.
And not one that can be abused by the management to further their own ends.
@@Missydee-72Definitely, but how?! They certainly won’t want to do it, they must be made to
It might focus their minds if the admin concerned served a prison sentence.
The system is corrupted, huge respect to Dr Ravi Sayaram.
Because she was a white female and the doctors were asian. They the management sided with the white female. Killer. How sad.
Hypocrisy of modern UK. Recently woman who murdered baby deliberately in 3rd trimester ny taking abortion pills get out of jail. Feminazis trying to portray her as a victim. Abortion without questions asked legal till 6 months. Abortion in case of possibility of Down syndrome legal till birth.
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@@leroysimon5692the chief was smashing Lucy Letby.
@@TOM-TOM-TOMgood point! I think her angelic demeanour kept her under the radar! Glad she been caught and now just lock her up and throw away the key!
The biggest mystery in this case is why Lucy Letby's defence did not defend her?
Those hospital executives should have been MADE TO APOLOGIZE to those doctors for having treated them in that way😡😡😡😡😡
These managers should be charged and put in jail for a suitable period. Gross neglect of care, causing the unnecessary deaths of children. Sickening.
yeah they must be culpable under law right?
@@AwwSnookems they definitely should be. They ignored the problem for well over a year before doing anything about it. Trying to strong arm several well respected doctors over a nurse is insanity. These doctors know what they are talking about and were silenced.
Yes. At least two babies died after they had ample evidence that Letby was a killer. They chose to ignore that evidence because she was a young and moderately pretty white nurse.
They are all part of the same killing cult. There's always evil managers at the top to cover up
Yup!
The reputation of the hospital was deemed more important then an unexplained deaths of newborn children, we live in a sick world.
yeah... that reputation is in tatters now
well ....there is a reason why india is the medical tourism hub of the world
I cannot even imagine how this exceptional human being and Doctor felt, when he had to apologize! Regardless of this, he continued. Hero ❤
DR. RAVI JAYARAM, WE ALL RESPECT AND APPRECIATE YOU, FOR STANDING UP FOR THE LIVES OF THESE INNOCENT LITTLE BABIES...
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND DEEP CONCERN, AND TRUSTING YOUR INSTINCTS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS NURSE WHO WAS
CAUSING THE DEATH OF ALL THESE PRECIOUS LITTLE BABIES..AND THE MOTHER'S WHO PAINFULLY CRIED FOR THE LOSE OF THEIR BABIES
CONFUSED AND LOST, AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR HEALTHY BABIES, WHICH THEY DID NOT GET TO BRING HOME IN THEIR ARMS..
THANK YOU DR. RAVI, BECAUSE OF YOU MANY BABIES ARE ALIVE AND SAFE...MAY YOU LIVE A LONG, SAFE AND PROSPEROUS LIFE
GODS GRACE BE WITH YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES ALWAYS..THANKS AGAIN..
He must be honored a civil award. He indeed caught evil & brought evil to justice.
what about all the other doctors?
No he shouldn't ! he allowed this to continue on . He didnt do enough to stop her in her tracks
@@michelejohnston4029 He was threatened if he didn’t drop it
@@michelejohnston4029do you know he was threatened? How many people have you reported in your organisation?
He didn't do anything actually. He was a coward and did what he was told and should have just risked being fired by going to Police. I'm sure he could have set himself up in private practice if fired. Who would want to work for the NHS under those circumstances? I'd rather flip burgers at MacDonald's than help protect a baby murderer. Also he and his colleagues could have set up their own spy camera and caught her in the act and taken the footage to Police, without informing the hospital.
I really hope the chief executives and trustees are prosecuted for not taking action to prevent many of the deaths. They are culpable.
Because she was a white female and the doctors were asian. They the management sided with the white female. Killer. How sad.
Thank God for this Dr and the staff. God bless all those innocent babies
Dr. RAVI should get a special BIG AWARD from the government for being honest and brave and for saving more lives.
What a courageous individual Dr Ravi is! Your courage to stand up to an unlawful power and to hold your ground firm is very commendable - a lot of respect to you!
So courageous yet he couldn't call 999 to report babies being murdered? Because he was scared of losing his job at worst? Seems quite the opposite of courage to me
@@AM-bl2cs go away troll lol
Please explain it to me. He claimed she was murdering babies. He told her boss, and when they didn't act, he just.. went on with his life? Why didn't he call the police, even anonymously? @@user-dc3ks6tx6v
@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist8I believe insatan
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“4 or 5 babies could be going to school now”… this broke me to tears…. She’s the worst serial killer I believe. I have no better words to describe her!
Dr Death killed more, not that it makes her crimes any less horrific. We will never know what those children would have gone on to do and achieve. Maybe one of them would have been a PM, or award-winning author, maybe they would just just had familes. we will never know.
One of the babies who were part of a set of twins has severe learning difficulties and complex needs because of Lucy administering insulin
What makes hesick is her victims were defenseless and incapable of speaking out.
those in charge and who actually “drew a line” should also be investigated imo
He is a physician with high emotional intelligence contrary to most men. Many professionals are fired for exposing serious breaches of good health practice like using one lancet pen to draw blood from thirty patients at a time, potentially transferring viral material. Firing employees avoids accountability and lawsuits. Whistle blowers get no thanks even though we are doing what we think is best. All patients must have their own lancet pen for blood sugar testing. I’ve had this experience too.
Doctor Jayram and his colleagues who raised the alarm are absolute heroes. On the other hand, it would be a horrendous travesty if Tony Chamber, Ian Harvey, Alison Kelly, and Karen Rees are not charged with gross negligence and corporate manslaughter. All their pension should be stripped as well. Their arrogance is just incredible.
Absolutely!
You can see that Dr Ravi Jayaram is a deeply empathetic, intelligent, and proactive doctor - everything a doctor/healthcare worker should be. It's astonishing that the board seemed to have gone out of their way to take the side of a nurse when multiple highly experienced consultants had raised very serious concerns. I hope everyone involved can heal from this.
I'm a nurse. You should see what happens if you report someone for being high or stealing drugs
He's Indian, of course he's smart
😂👉@@KM-rk3ok
@@KM-rk3okHe's British.
@@mildlydispleased3221 Nationality wise perhaps, I believe the previous commenter was referring to his potential ethnicity.
What a terrible burden for him to carry, not related to his behavior which was courageous.
These "attacks" were reported to span the period running from June 2015 to June 2016. At the time, nobody suspected Lucy Letby of wrong-doing.
Two facts for starters:
It was ONLY after the consultants who were running the neonatal unit became the subject of a critical report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) that they went on to file a report with the police alleging the infant deaths were due to the actions of nurse Lucy Letby...
In all but one case, the infants received autopsies and the coroner found that they died of natural causes...
Draw your own inferences (...)
Dr Ravi is a hero , I salute you
Yes he sure is a hero and the so called "nurse" is a chilling psychopath. He has grounds to sue for such emotional and professional damage he endured. He probably has PTSD from what he has been through.
@@janeclayton151 facts, sadly this is the politics you experience in the workplace , you raise a concern only for it to come back on you.
How is he a hero. He agreed to retract and continue working with her when his job was threatened despite knowing she was killing babies.
@@NR-rv8rz he raised the concerns and was made to apologise.
@@spencerosei2616 Nobody 'made' him apologise. He chose to apologise.
He was given a choice, apologise and let babies be murdered and keep your job, or call the police, stop babies from being murdered and lose your job.
He chose to let babies continue being murdered so he could keep his job.
This man is a hero. I can’t believe the manager had all the doctors write an apology letter to the murderer.
He would be a hero if had gone to the police direct and saved some lives. But he, and six others, sat on it while management shrugged it off. Not my idea of hero.
Why didn't the doctors bypass management and phone the police?!
typical angrez moment ...
typical british moment of always not listening to indians
the CEO
Thank you Dr. Ravi Jayaram for fighting to be heard. So tragic but at least you helped keep more innocent angels from being murdered😔🙏🏾
This man clearly fought his instinct and didn't believe it is possible, even he was an experience person in his field. It is a good lesson that you should never ignore your instinct and ability to recognize danger when you feel there is something wrong, only because it looks like a story from a movie. Many people are evil and we need to look out for them everywhere, even among our friends or family members. Im sure if that person was a man not a woman it would end up differently and more babies would be save.
I hope the doctor got the same apology letter and an face to face apology from all those who ignored him! And give him a raise as well 😊
They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.
i would bet they did not
It won’t bring their children back but these families need to sue. This is absolutely sickening and gut wrenching
It’s understandable to feel that way. However, the funds for compensation will likely compete with funding for more positive causes in the hospitals. I’d be delighted however if compensation would be paid from the pensions of the Senior positions that allowed this to continue.
@@MikeSmith-tx2lpagreed. Suing the hospital is just taking money out of the NHS that could be used for say training, to spot any potentially problematic staff or invest in the CCTV cameras Dr Jayaram suggested be placed in the NICU.
Now, taking the money from the Big bosses by giving them a pay cut might be a better way to find funds to pay the lawsuit! Taking it from the doctors and nurses, be it directly or indirectly will only cause more problems, for us the patients, as well as the staff. Besides, no amount of money will make up for the loss of their babies.
No excuses, sue the NHS stop acting like it'll affect them in the least the government will continue to siphon money into that pit.
@@leannes1083 no no, the compensation comes from Govt, not the NHS. you're getting mixed up
@@BOZ_11cos they've got so much money to spare. Take it from the execs, they aren't spending nigh on a decade at school, like doctors do, so why do they need to be on quite so much money? It's greed.
But the government/NHS are 1 and the same essentially, taking money from 1 hurts the other, and the NHS can't afford to lose any more money. It took 11 years to get my surgery, if I'd gone private from the beginning, before my diagnosis, it would have been over and done with within 3 months. Hence why I don't want any money taking from the nhs be it directly or indirectly
Hospital management should absolutely be held accountable.
This is why we can't "just look the other way" because more victims suffer.
In the overall scheme of things, Lucy Letby was a very young nurse with just a few years experience at the onset of the murders. She graduated in 2011, took a post basic certification, and then worked full time from 2012-2016, which is not that long compared to the experience of a neonatologist who has worked since 1992. The combined experience of the concerned doctors and nurses would have been decades long, yet the management blindly supported a nurse whose activities raised alarm bells within short time after she graduated. They too are culpable in the deaths of the babies.
Coz the nurse was white and the doctor Brown. The bias to protect Lucy & discredit/threaten/humiliate Dr Jayram was racial. Period.
Senior doctors or ( ward head ) must scrutinise the progress of his word and must be held responcible along with the ward head nurse regarding all medication issued and administrated.All medication lockers including the refregirators must be monitored and sighened by issusing staff with time issued. The British taught this many decades ago to all countries they ruled.Why Then ? These procedures not followed now? The management must also be held responsible.
That’s another form of racism. Lucy the white murder with little experience is heard over the Asian doctor who has decades of experience. Let that sink in.
Well, this is what happens when you push certain individuals into higher positions,because they're apart of a certain demographic. You have graduates who know little to nothing, being prepped for higher leadership roles, over workers more deserving. Then the higher ups are quick to cover any of their mistakes. It happens all the time in the NHS.
@@ceecee4049yup exactly.
You’re hero for speaking out and you have saved so many babies by speaking out.
Where were they 3 years ago, silent like the rest. Redemption should not be given to any of these people.
he didnt speak out loud enough ! if he had any real decency he would have gone straight to the police, instead of worrying about keeping his job
You saved lives Doctor. Lucy would have killed more😭
@@michelejohnston4029put yourself in his shoes before you pass judgement. He went through the correct channels . If he went straight to police , he could have been sued by the trust and the nurse for defamation. The fact that he and his fellow consultants persisted when the management put them off is courageous and heroic . They saved countless lives by speaking up .
@@michelejohnston4029 I disagree with you. He told the management and he was told to keep quiet. He could have lost his job and his family would be affected. This could lead to so many challenges for him. Are you for real? Do you have the audacity to speak out if the management tell you not to speak out? Are you thinking?
In the US those responsible from preventing them to properly investigate can be charged with depraved indifference. I really hope there’s something in the UK that’s equivalent.
That poor man ,having to apologies to that woman ,it shows how evil she is ,she would have got off on it and thought she was untouchable .
Brave man, she is extremely manipulative. His gut instinct was right.
He's not brave, he's too weak. He didn't do anything and just did as he was told by the hospital. If he had gotten fired, so what? You think he can't move on to set himself up in private practice?
Gut instinct is almost always right 🤍
@@bingonamo7520 Probably trying to assume why someone would do that.
@@bingonamo7520You cannot go to police without proof. She could sue him for damages and practically bankrupt him. He could lose his job. He could lose his chance to get another job. He reported to the authority. That being said he or someone else should have secretly alerted the police, that would have saved few of those babies😢
@@bingonamo7520 people like you are the reason why guys like him won't do the right thing.
You'll pick apart their character even when they do the right thing.
The hospital management is just as responsible as the killer nurse, as they let it happen, dismissing the repeated concerns raised. It is professional negligence and they must taken to the court.
The second he saw her over the infant whose lines had become detached without calling a code the police should have been called. Don't ever keep situations like this internal to an organization. Always call for outsiders who don't have a conflict of interest. Hospital management here have blood on their hands.
This man is a hero 💪 great person
You can see the heartbreak in the doctor's eyes, the aguish he feels for the tiny, innocent victims and their families.
Yes, brought me to tears!
I’m sure his reports were not taken seriously because he is Indian
@@lionkingk5098The white doctor’s reports weren’t taken seriously either.
@@lionkingk5098 Maybe, however, their were many senior docs with him on the issue.
@@lionkingk5098Indian doctors are trusted worldwide tho!
Brave, brave man!...we need more people like him who are willing to stand up and shout out when evil is being committed.
The managers responsible should themselves be charged with causing or allowing the death of children.
@@paddymeboyabsolutely the managers are as much to blame for the murders as they allowed her to continue to kill and threatened professional doctors not to talk out
@@paddymeboy Hope they can sleep at night
@@khali1880we shouldn't let them.
Absolutely
She must have felt so freaking powerful knowing she was getting away with this and nobody could do anything about it. Freaking scary
It is shocking to think that NHS bosses would rather let a serial killer continue working rather than admit there is problem in case it harmed their reputation. This tells you all you need to know about the NHS as it stands today. They kill more people by refusing to refer patients for treatment because waiting lists are too long, and those who make it onto the waiting lists are dying because they are not treated on time, so a few babies dying is not going to make any difference to them. But if you wave some cash at them, you can jump the queue and be seen and treated within a couple of weeks. I won’t mention the state of NHS dentistry which practically doesn’t exist anymore. 😇
As a nurse with 10 years critical care experience, you listen to the consultants because they know what they’re talking about, most of them are the most committed professionals you could ever meet.
Definitely
Strongly agree 🙏
@@JupiterThunder I'm surprised you allow managers who are not doctors and nurses to manage anything.
Not all the consultants are like him! There are so many useless ones! And nurses in general those days are absolutely awful! Yuk! Hospital should be the safest place! Disgusting! The board members should be prosecuted who protected her too!
9 years critical care, completely agree!
As an NHS doctor, I can say that nurses and doctors (and other healthcare staff, honestly) are not taken seriously when whistle blowing or raising concerns. Like, EVER. In fact, we are often BLAMED for it. A management staff once told me perhaps I need to find a new career since I was being sexually and racially harassed by another doctor.
How disgusting of that attitude!
Wtf 😮
Go to all the media, make a big fuss, sue them. They must not get away with that!!!
Record it and post it online
This is sickening to hear 😢
The hospital should be sued for not monitoring its staff more closely, and for the damages felt by the parents.
I cant believe they made the doctors apologise to a serial killer.
May the babies rest in peace ❤😢😢
Dr Jayaram deserves an award for his honesty and bravery in trying to stop this killer.
Dr Ravi is a national hero and should be knighted for his courageous and quick actions helping save so many innocent babies lives.
this is who should be knighted, not entertainers
Believe the official narrative at your peril.
I seriously think it's because people don't want to believe a nurse could do this. They want to keep looking for other explanations. Those of you who are naturally suspicious might not be like this but a lot of the population is
Managers need to be investigated for incompetence.
Bless this man's soul. The pressure and guilt he was put through is disgusting. He knew in his heart that he was right, but was bullied into disbelieving himself. May you find peace, serenity, and forgiveness. Know that you are not responsible for the actions of others. You are loved and forgiven.
This type of emotional strain doesn't go away and I hope he doesn't become too sure of himself, because a crazy case like this causes crazy in people.
@@XuyesiYes this woman's father threatened them with the Medical Council what right had they to bow to him and not the Professional Dr's obviously treating this man on a par with his delusional daughter something off in her upbringing
As a pediatrician myself I can feel the pain that Dr Ravi is going through.. thinking about the very sick, horrible system of administration in this hospital. Think these admins are morally and ethically responsible for the tragedy. Hope for fair trial
Trials been done she’s already been sentenced
100%. things need to change. we need more good people like yourself and Dr Ravi
@@cortneyrenswhat about the hospital management? Were those people punished?
As a paediatrician would you have signed the death certificates?
Right, yeah, that poor doctor going through all that when he could gone to the police and prevented some of the deaths. Instead he will have to live with the guilt of simply laying the responsibility at the feet of the management. Only kidding, i don't think he feels any guilt.
Dr. Jayaram's appearance is that of a man carrying the weight of the world. Eyes distant, crestfallen.
Hopefully this interview is cathartic for him and he can get back to being a guardian of humanity's legacy.
😂😂😂😂😂
He come across on google as someone with a media profile and a big ego . What a nutcase. Would love to know what other colleagues thought about this guy .
People die , babies die but know everyone looks for someone else to blame . People die!!!
Guardians of humans legacy ? You sound like a nutcase. Hello anyone who has had anything to do with a hospital would realise that they are places where generally they die. .
The hospital managers should be jail. But instead we will hear:: LESSONS WILL BE LEARNED ::. Sickening.