Really appreciate it DroneOn ! Hope you enjoy and let me know what type of content you want to see - I want to do things people are interested in and help where I can. Thanks again for being here
We definitely have to be careful with this configuration! Not sure I’d recommend freestyling with it but cinematic shooting should be fine And yes hope to see more quads like this very soon - can’t beat DJI when it comes to that beautiful image !
@@MoeFPV yeah I hope you all bring it to fruition. I remember how ppl were breaking down whoops to build toothpicks and micro freestyle quads. I'm waiting for the conversion kits to start coming out. Then the companies catch on and squash the DYI guys. And we just sell out every time. 😂 Give me the Planet Crusher 20 for $500 please...
That's some awesome flying! Have to agree, so many 03 microwhoops lately. I don't have DJI, not a hater, happy to see some smaller DJI's come out, DJI pilots need winter fun too, now in HD! Looking forward to HDZero Freestyle V2s making their way into these. A lot of us hobbiests running HD0. Thanks for mentioning your flying to avoid prop wash. I'm still noobish and would have never thought of this simple thing. Loved the addition of whoopless flight, now we need to see a rush of 03 micros! Last, I absolutly love how you use the helping hands for the parts breakdowns. Loved it all! Happy new year! Cheers!
Wow thank you for words, Amin0! I do appreciate the 03 for what it is but most of the time I am still grabbing my analog micros :) although flying a bit more walksnail as of late. So many systems and each with their strengths ! Thanks again for stopping by :)
This was a good video....I feel complete seeing someone deduct the pavo20 out of my own curiosity! Tho I still enjoy the Pavo20 as is. (coming from someone who is new to fpv)
Im thinking about making a long range drone with this frame. For as cheap as the frames are the risk vs reward is definitely worth it. Also it will be analog so cheaper and lighter
What's up Moe, dope video! Is there a reason that you didn't turn the motors around so that it's not a pusher anymore for the ductless option? Cheeers!
You can get osd on the v2! You need to go into the presets tab choose 4.5 and then type osd and choose osd o3 avata! Watch jbs video on bringing up osd! I have just finished building my pavo20 with the o3 and a gps as well I will put a video up on RUclips soon and show you what settings I have chosen
Ohh yeah I was always wondering about that! If I could record the osd as well! They are full of clues when your drone goes down!! Sometimes it’s a little difficult to not turn your goggles off and run instead of record everything like longitude and latitude!!
Great video! Always like to see others pushing the limits, making mods and a little DIY, instead of just flying it out of the box. Did you replace the CF Frame and Ducts with Pico parts, or just the Ducts themselves? Because I think you can buy Ducts without having to buy the whole Pico frame kit.
Yes you can absolutely only buy the ducts and that’s what I would do if you’re looking to do something similar instead of cutting up the nice Pavo 20 frame
Unfortunately there's no way to get the OSD into the goggle footage with the V2 goggles. I think the best you can do is overlay SRT files, but I have not done that myself and I'm not exactly sure how I feel like I've seen it in Mad's Tech videos though.. Do the production level you went to with this video is impressive and should be the benchmark for fpv content creators. The beautiful b-roll and the features in phone text, is such a nice change from what I'm used to seeing. Also, the flying... 🔥🔥🔥AF!! Happy New Year, Moe! 👊🏻
Wow thank you vey much for the kind words! Sometimes wonder if it’s too long but I don’t want to miss any bits or information people may want to know - and thank you for the info about the goggles, as well. Maybe I’ll look into the goggles 2 down the line 🤔
I have the V2 goggles and have some form of OSD in my goggles (Not that I know how I have it enabled) hahahaha and what did you do for your tune? The one real draw for me is that not much protection for the 03 sure someone will make something for it as it is a nice platform.
I do have osd in the goggles while flying but looks like there’s no way to record that to show in the video. Oh well I had to turn down the P and up the D. I think I brought down the master some as well. And yes this is a very fragile setup. The 03 especially is not something I really want to risk 😅 but I want to see this platform evolve !
@@MoeFPV Have you tried the WTF setup? I know One Man Unmanned did a video about it and bardwell did I think it was originally to get OSD on the goggles in the FirstPlace but Unmanned did something titled ""DJI Goggles V1 & V2 Can Now Record BetaFlight OSD in DVR..Here's How!"".
As a starting point , can you share your pids of the ductless version? Im trying to build a swap with pavo20 electronics into toothpick frame . Thanks!
Hello, I bought a Pavo 20. Before installing O3, I was flying with 2-cell and 3-cell batteries without any problem. But after installing O3, it does not fly at all with 2-cell batteries, and with 3-cell batteries, it flies at 90% throttle and with difficulty. where is the problem from ? I have a 2 cell battery : tattu 450mah 75c and a 3 cell battery : boslipo 650mah 95c
What do you think about putting bigger motors on the Pavo20? For example 1204 or 1404? BetaFPV has a F405 AIO 20A 2-4S board, so maybe swap that with the original and go 4S with 5000-6000kv motors, any thoughts?
Not sure about putting bigger motors on the 2" setup - might as well bump up to the pavo25 at that point. Very powerful 2.5 cinewhoop. But I would hold off for a few weeks in case something new pops up 😋
any recomendation between these and flylens 85? i want to install it with caddx moonlight, and capable of doing some light freestyle / acro also good indoor cinematic.
I would still recommend the fly lens 85 as the best overall in the category - the moonlight walksnail cam will NOT fit in any of these unfortunately but i believe caddx just released their own cinewhoop with it !
Yes you can - I am using the radiomaster zorro with the 03 on elrs. I just remove the wires on the DJI harness that are responsible for the RX (should be the last two wires) but make sure to consult your wiring guide! Also not sure if you even have to remove the two wires but it may cause some unnecessary interference if not
That’s a lot of wind - you would need some sort of stabilization software for the video to look decent but that’s a bit much for this little quad to fly in
Congratulations dude. Look forward to seeing more companies sending you products to review 👍
Thank you very much!
This is like a cinewhoop graduation video. Really cool. Cheers.
Dope vid and mod. Did you have to change your PIDs at all?
Your opening hooked me. I think im like a regular watcher now! Omg😂
Really appreciate it DroneOn ! Hope you enjoy and let me know what type of content you want to see - I want to do things people are interested in and help where I can. Thanks again for being here
Congrats on your first review quad sent to you man! Keep em coming love the content!
Thank you very much!
theese are keep getting better!
you are underrated!
Thanks Velvix :)
I have to agree with you. More ductless micros needed. That thing looks hella fun. I would have broken it in 2 flights... If not 1. Lol.
We definitely have to be careful with this configuration! Not sure I’d recommend freestyling with it but cinematic shooting should be fine
And yes hope to see more quads like this very soon - can’t beat DJI when it comes to that beautiful image !
@@MoeFPV yeah I hope you all bring it to fruition. I remember how ppl were breaking down whoops to build toothpicks and micro freestyle quads.
I'm waiting for the conversion kits to start coming out. Then the companies catch on and squash the DYI guys. And we just sell out every time. 😂 Give me the Planet Crusher 20 for $500 please...
That's some awesome flying! Have to agree, so many 03 microwhoops lately. I don't have DJI, not a hater, happy to see some smaller DJI's come out, DJI pilots need winter fun too, now in HD! Looking forward to HDZero Freestyle V2s making their way into these. A lot of us hobbiests running HD0. Thanks for mentioning your flying to avoid prop wash. I'm still noobish and would have never thought of this simple thing. Loved the addition of whoopless flight, now we need to see a rush of 03 micros! Last, I absolutly love how you use the helping hands for the parts breakdowns. Loved it all! Happy new year! Cheers!
Wow thank you for words, Amin0! I do appreciate the 03 for what it is but most of the time I am still grabbing my analog micros :) although flying a bit more walksnail as of late. So many systems and each with their strengths ! Thanks again for stopping by :)
This was a good video....I feel complete seeing someone deduct the pavo20 out of my own curiosity! Tho I still enjoy the Pavo20 as is. (coming from someone who is new to fpv)
Hey do you mind sharing your rates?
AWesome review. Tempting to try this setup now
Thanks Stephan - try it on the pico !
Hey Great Video have you dialed in the pid tuning for the ductless Pavo jet?
Im thinking about making a long range drone with this frame. For as cheap as the frames are the risk vs reward is definitely worth it. Also it will be analog so cheaper and lighter
I was about to ask if companies have started sending you stuff yet! And yeah, I'm sure betafpv did NOT approve this video. LOL!
Great job as always.
Mr M! I hope beta isn’t too mad 😅 just had to share it with yall! Thanks for watchin !
Nice review Moe!
Definitely think there will be some micros coming out with a similar configuration 😉
The quad we need, not the quad we deserve .. 🦸♂️
What's up Moe, dope video! Is there a reason that you didn't turn the motors around so that it's not a pusher anymore for the ductless option? Cheeers!
Funny, I'm actually about to fly my P20 and I receive this Notification, I guess I wait to see if I learn the secrets of the P20.
You can get osd on the v2! You need to go into the presets tab choose 4.5 and then type osd and choose osd o3 avata! Watch jbs video on bringing up osd! I have just finished building my pavo20 with the o3 and a gps as well I will put a video up on RUclips soon and show you what settings I have chosen
He is talking about the osd recorded into goggles dvr... like in the goggles 2
Ohh yeah I was always wondering about that! If I could record the osd as well! They are full of clues when your drone goes down!! Sometimes it’s a little difficult to not turn your goggles off and run instead of record everything like longitude and latitude!!
Great review. Subbed.
dude your solar power system looks more expensive than whole your house... i like it
wow it rips. nice flying
What modifications had to be made to fit the naked 03 unit in the canopy
Hello, do you have any suggestions on what Betaflight pid settings should be in order to fly as aggressively as you with Pavo 20?
That's a real mighty dwarf! Vids awesome! Thx a bunch.
Great video! Always like to see others pushing the limits, making mods and a little DIY, instead of just flying it out of the box. Did you replace the CF Frame and Ducts with Pico parts, or just the Ducts themselves? Because I think you can buy Ducts without having to buy the whole Pico frame kit.
Yes you can absolutely only buy the ducts and that’s what I would do if you’re looking to do something similar instead of cutting up the nice Pavo 20 frame
Loving that thumbnail, bruv!
Thank you Brundle ;)
Im also interested in ductless. Like an updating lizard95 digital.
osd should work, msp turned on in bf? wires may be the wrong way round on the uart?
Congrats! Good review. Nice flying too. What do you use for a controller? Do you do builds for others? Thanks
Thank you very much :) currently do not do any builds but more than willing to help out with any questions
Can you post the updated tune or cli dump somewhere? That looks amazing and want to try it on mine.
I was gonna ask the same thing 😅
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Do you do builds for others? Thanks!
@moefpv can you please share your cli dump/ diff? for ductless?
Unfortunately there's no way to get the OSD into the goggle footage with the V2 goggles. I think the best you can do is overlay SRT files, but I have not done that myself and I'm not exactly sure how I feel like I've seen it in Mad's Tech videos though..
Do the production level you went to with this video is impressive and should be the benchmark for fpv content creators. The beautiful b-roll and the features in phone text, is such a nice change from what I'm used to seeing. Also, the flying... 🔥🔥🔥AF!!
Happy New Year, Moe! 👊🏻
Wow thank you vey much for the kind words! Sometimes wonder if it’s too long but I don’t want to miss any bits or information people may want to know - and thank you for the info about the goggles, as well. Maybe I’ll look into the goggles 2 down the line 🤔
I have the V2 goggles and have some form of OSD in my goggles (Not that I know how I have it enabled) hahahaha and what did you do for your tune? The one real draw for me is that not much protection for the 03 sure someone will make something for it as it is a nice platform.
I do have osd in the goggles while flying but looks like there’s no way to record that to show in the video. Oh well
I had to turn down the P and up the D. I think I brought down the master some as well. And yes this is a very fragile setup. The 03 especially is not something I really want to risk 😅 but I want to see this platform evolve !
@@MoeFPV Have you tried the WTF setup? I know One Man Unmanned did a video about it and bardwell did I think it was originally to get OSD on the goggles in the FirstPlace but Unmanned did something titled ""DJI Goggles V1 & V2 Can Now Record BetaFlight OSD in DVR..Here's How!"".
As a starting point , can you share your pids of the ductless version? Im trying to build a swap with pavo20 electronics into toothpick frame . Thanks!
Hello, I bought a Pavo 20. Before installing O3, I was flying with 2-cell and 3-cell batteries without any problem. But after installing O3, it does not fly at all with 2-cell batteries,
and with 3-cell batteries, it flies at 90% throttle and with difficulty.
where is the problem from ?
I have a 2 cell battery : tattu 450mah 75c
and a 3 cell battery : boslipo 650mah 95c
What do you think about putting bigger motors on the Pavo20? For example 1204 or 1404? BetaFPV has a F405 AIO 20A 2-4S board, so maybe swap that with the original and go 4S with 5000-6000kv motors, any thoughts?
Not sure about putting bigger motors on the 2" setup - might as well bump up to the pavo25 at that point. Very powerful 2.5 cinewhoop. But I would hold off for a few weeks in case something new pops up 😋
Sick skillz💯💪
the last shot in studio what camera have you mount? this is not dji air o3!
Noo all shots are from the onboard DJI 03 ! Its an impressive system and with some color grading and an ND filter we get some great results
Can you share your tune?
any recomendation between these and flylens 85? i want to install it with caddx moonlight, and capable of doing some light freestyle / acro also good indoor cinematic.
I would still recommend the fly lens 85 as the best overall in the category - the moonlight walksnail cam will NOT fit in any of these unfortunately but i believe caddx just released their own cinewhoop with it !
@@MoeFPV already built it 2 weeks ago, sad things is it only support the 1s vtx on the bracket, tried the v2 or moonlight it wouldn't fit..
@@MoeFPV btw, can u share the stock PID for flylens85?
Can i use a non DJI Controller like a Radiomaster Boxer with DJI O3 Drones?
Yes you can - I am using the radiomaster zorro with the 03 on elrs. I just remove the wires on the DJI harness that are responsible for the RX (should be the last two wires) but make sure to consult your wiring guide! Also not sure if you even have to remove the two wires but it may cause some unnecessary interference if not
Thanks very much
@@MoeFPV
I went f7 3-4s, 1404 7000kv, WS, GPS compass, Inav7.
On 3s it's docile and rips on 4s
You can see it in playback I think may be the vistas I forgot
lol is that kennedy plaza??
Any idea why it auto holds alt in acro mode?
Sorry - not sure what you mean by that - it doesn’t hold altitude in any mode if that’s what you’re asking
can it fly well with 40kph wind without the ducts?
That’s a lot of wind - you would need some sort of stabilization software for the video to look decent but that’s a bit much for this little quad to fly in
You can Power loop your corgi
🎉🎉🎉
Let s go Indiana Moe😂
🤣 thanks fer
u get props in view
I rip the fook’n chit out of the 20. Love it 👍👍👊🇺🇸
I have this one to im building a 4s out of it if you intressted let me know
Sounds interesting - I think I will be exploring the Pavo 25 on 4s next but I will let you know - thanks for the offer