@@fisbowl I wouldnt really say so, it can be good for breaking steel walls but to say its overpowered is a bit much. imo water shuriken is a better pick on greninja with priority and being able to break substitute
In terms of combos up air and down tilt. Down smash forward smash and forward air are his best kill moves. U could kill with counter but you can also use the counter to start combos
This makes me realize how bad I am at Greninja even though I main him Edit- damn this comment was a year ago that’s wild I’m still bad at smash Edit 2- we hit 2 years gang!! I haven't played Smash in a bit but I'm better Edit 3- it’s over, my friends. i’m off to college in a few months and i don’t play anymore. greninja carried me through every single get-together with friends and i am unbelievably grateful 🙏
I don't even own a switch (yet) but whenever I play with my friends I love to pick up Greninja. Something about his movements is just so intriguing to me. Lol
Greninja d tilt is SO GOOD. At low percents, it’s a free grab, mid percents can combo with instant reverse bair or up smash, and at high percents has 2 kill confirms with fair and up smash.
wavebouncing is actually doing a reverse B and B reverse in one move. There for if you have rightward momentum you’ll want to *flick the analog left, press B and then flick the analog right immediately*
Thanks for this guide, even though I’m a little late to the party, I was thinking of side maining him, as a nice little trick up my sleeve cause I main bowser, so it’d be nice to have a character that’s fast and has projectiles
Here's a small hint he didn't mention At 70-100 percent depending on character weight. You can do Down Throw into FAir and if it's at edge it can kill, or just do a lot of damage in general and give you stage control. Your welcome.
something choctopus i think forgot to mention is, when you and a bunch of people are playing together. as a greninja with a bunch of other people, your shadow isn't seen very easily. i know this was a while ago but i'm saying this for anyone who may be reading this rn. so to you reader, you are welcome
This is pretty good for battles with your friends for greninja. Use his alt costumes to blend in with the background to stealthily take care of your human opponants. This may sound weird but DO NOT USE THE BLACK GRENINJA ALT IN NIGHT STAGES OR DARK STAGES. Instead use the dark purple it sticks out less. Only use this in arenas for chosen stages or group get togethers in regular smash
I main greninja and I can say that you need to learn how fast his shadow sneak is since there are some maps where you can’t see the shadow on the floor so you need to learn the speed and shit
Greninja is all about identifying openings. See an opening, react and utilize his explosive frame data, and get a tech chase/jab lock situation and apply the same rules of reaction with explosive frame data to continue the string.
Greninjas wall jump is different as well. He can actually stick to walls for a few seconds. After joker please do ROB. I am so stoked you did geninja though. He is one of my alts and sadly I just discovered the "wall jump" he can do like 2 days ago and his counter being able to go in different directions I learned last night. You can also use the counter as recovery but thats kinda situational but its awesome.
greninja is underrated. period. watched this, picked him up, and a week later he is my first character i elite smash. he destroys heavies because he's fast, he destroys lightweight beacuse of fair and fsmash, and he destroys meduim-weights because of his combo game and kill options.
i've been sleeping on greninja for a LONG TIME then i just turned on training mode played noticed he was good, mained him and started spamming up smash, up air, and dash attack
@@Choctopus I have a question. Now, I play Smash Bros for the 3DS, and when I play as Greninja, you know when you hold down the A button, he either does punches first? I like to do when you hold down the A button, SOMETIMES he wags his hands all around rapidly. Now, when I press down on the A button, I just want him to do that move, not the three punches. And I've watched CPU Greninja do this, and he can do the wagging his hands all around move all the time, and SOMETIMES the three punches. I (as a player) just want him to wag his hands, whenever I press down on A, but I need to do it several times to do it. How do I fix / do this move? If you know which move I'm talking about. Can you please tell me? Thank You.
I actually main greninja and was the first character I picked up back in smash 4 (my first smash game)... greninja is not hard to main... also quick combo with greninja-back air (no 3rd hit), side tilt, etc.
I have a good idea of what Greninja’s codec call would be: Snake: Otacon, this may sound crazy, but there seems to be a strange creature here. It resembles a cross between a frog and a ninja. Otacon: And that, Snake, would be Greninja. Snake: Greninja? Is that a…Pokémon? Otacon: Yes. Greninja is the final evolved form of Froakie. It’s a Water/Dark type. Be careful, Snake. Like it’s name suggests, it has the agility and speed of a ninja. It can also compress water into throwing stars, or shurikens. Snake: The speed and agility of a ninja. I don’t know why, but I’m getting some serious Gray Fox vibes here. Otacon: Good to see you have some degree of familiarity with your opponent. Snake: Believe me, Otacon, I’ve dealt with some pretty agile foes in my life.
I suggest to greninja players to be careful with the downtilt/dashattack to fair it is easy to airdodge and i don't really recommend the jab lock After a falling upair because you Can easily tech it, it sometimes connects with a downtilt or uptilt as a true combo. Finally the combos shown in the video are not true combos for some of them but still really good mixups. Anyway this is a good tutorial and WE lack of these with greninja!
My biggest problem with greninja in my opinion is the transition between certain moves. For example, I can't do down tilt to up smash if my life depended on it. I either do a dash attack, forward smash or up tilt on complete accident.
I have other trick how to do it throw some one of the platforms if he jumps back charge shuriken and letsgo if he is about do step on the platform again and he can’t save him self anymore
4:54 ik im 5 years late but thats not a wave bounc thats still a b reverse wave bouncing u start and finish looking in the same direction u input a b reverse then instantly input the other direction
n0skillz YT Dark Samus and Samus are completely different things. Samus is just a woman in a suit, dark Samus is a Metroid that copied her suit and it’s abilities.
I tried playing with greninja, but I wish his jumps were lower, because his air attacks are amazing, but the jumping throws everything off. I wish his jump mechanic was similar to shiek. I hate high jumping characters, makes comboing enemies ridiculously hard especially against heavy or light characters.
Soooooooo Joker next week?
do yoshi
Yes
Yes then do Duck Hunt please
PLEASE!!!
@J-MAN Boi he already did them
"Greninja's Hydro Pump, which don't do much damage."
Hydro Pump being one of the most powerful Water-type moves in Pokémon.
thats smash bros for ya
lmao fr 110 base power plus greninja stab god it’s insane. plus greninja is a special attacker so it’s busted
@@fisbowl I wouldnt really say so, it can be good for breaking steel walls but to say its overpowered is a bit much. imo water shuriken is a better pick on greninja with priority and being able to break substitute
Smash and the franchise is different.
And shadow sneak can hit jigglypuff, so what
So Greninja is the "Be Humble" character.
Oh yeah nahui
wat that mean
Hell yeah
I’ve been playing greninja for awhile and I’m still scared to go online with him😀
Wym hes so easy to spam online
Where is the taunt?
Where is his best move?
In terms of combos up air and down tilt. Down smash forward smash and forward air are his best kill moves. U could kill with counter but you can also use the counter to start combos
@@andyherrejon558 you clearly misunderstood that
@@andyherrejon558 up smash is better than down smash : /
@@iusedthesametimeasthelater8453 i know this now. Up smash is his best smash attack. Dash attack and down tilt are best for getting stuff going.
Don't worry, at least he went over some useless facts from the Pokemon games.
I've also found shadow sneak is good when the camera is tilted looking from under the stage so opponents can't see the surface shadow.
Then again the player won't see where he's going
It becomes even better on 2d stages
@@Megalox_ the muscle memory solves that problem, I'm terrible at Smash but, due to the steady rate it moves its not that hard to remember
Useless Greninja tech: you can drop below a platform and immediately down air to get back up
This makes me realize how bad I am at Greninja even though I main him
Edit- damn this comment was a year ago that’s wild
I’m still bad at smash
Edit 2- we hit 2 years gang!! I haven't played Smash in a bit but I'm better
Edit 3- it’s over, my friends. i’m off to college in a few months and i don’t play anymore. greninja carried me through every single get-together with friends and i am unbelievably grateful 🙏
I just got the game and only having trouble doing short hops on the switch for some juggles..( T -T)
I main Greninja and I am decent with him
Same bro, same
Same mans
Same
Yessss, my Greninja can be saved
Yessss
Greninja fanboy
Up man
CHICKEN NUGGETS so? Greninja is a GREAT Pokémon, who do you think is better then him?
Better than incineroar.
I don't even own a switch (yet) but whenever I play with my friends I love to pick up Greninja. Something about his movements is just so intriguing to me. Lol
I think his speed is able to compete with sonic that’s why I like him
@@reaper_boixx3126 yeah they’re both pretty fast. Sonic is a little tougher to deal with though imo
I like how choctopus has basically all characters tutorials thx man 👍
Choctopops
Please refer to me as dad or father.
Wheeeeze
Fool, ya fool!
@@Choctopus choctopussy
@@Choctopus also thanks for teaching me daddy
Thanks Choctopus. You are amazing and very dedicated. Your weekly series help me a lot :). Keep going!
Greninja d tilt is SO GOOD. At low percents, it’s a free grab, mid percents can combo with instant reverse bair or up smash, and at high percents has 2 kill confirms with fair and up smash.
Yeet my boy kermit
I can’t😂😂😂
wavebouncing is actually doing a reverse B and B reverse in one move. There for if you have rightward momentum you’ll want to *flick the analog left, press B and then flick the analog right immediately*
gagok ninja or ejaculation salt whos stronger
I don’t know man, tough choice
Oro gagok was stronger in the anime bjt ejaculation salt just got a major character arc so it could be either one of them
We should combine both of them
@@e01b3f gagok salt
Nasserino no, ejaculation ninja
I’ve been waiting for you to do greninja! I main the character and I wanted to see how you used him. Awesome video!
After Joker next week how about Incineroar? Our boi need some love too.
Manta Crew he sucks ass
@@TheBeebop420 Unless he spams side b. SO TRIGGERING!
He was one of the most disappointing Pokémon imo
He was beat to bits in this
I need me either incinaroar or Rob
Edit:after joker
My favorite one of greninja moves is up tilt cuz he licks you
Greninja and donkey Kong
Thanks for this guide, even though I’m a little late to the party, I was thinking of side maining him, as a nice little trick up my sleeve cause I main bowser, so it’d be nice to have a character that’s fast and has projectiles
Here's a small hint he didn't mention
At 70-100 percent depending on character weight. You can do Down Throw into FAir and if it's at edge it can kill, or just do a lot of damage in general and give you stage control.
Your welcome.
@@mashed4553 your welcome!
6:21 you can’t see me!
something choctopus i think forgot to mention is, when you and a bunch of people are playing together. as a greninja with a bunch of other people, your shadow isn't seen very easily. i know this was a while ago but i'm saying this for anyone who may be reading this rn. so to you reader, you are welcome
I appreciate it
This is cool because today i decided I'm dropping my mains and am picking up greninja and joker
FINALLY MY SMASH 4 MAIN 🙂
Greninja is the best character
Pyro Yup
You already know 💯
I just started maining him yesterday! *WHAT A COINCIDENCE*
Ur breathtaking
SAME! but I just searched the video up.
I've been maining him for about a month now. If i were you I'd watch apolition's tadpole to toad guide for greninja. Its very, very useful
@@Whodagod this was two years ago lol. if he is still playing smash he is probably insane at it by now
Thanks for this. I'm a Greninja main and this helped a lot.
This is pretty good for battles with your friends for greninja. Use his alt costumes to blend in with the background to stealthily take care of your human opponants. This may sound weird but DO NOT USE THE BLACK GRENINJA ALT IN NIGHT STAGES OR DARK STAGES. Instead use the dark purple it sticks out less. Only use this in arenas for chosen stages or group get togethers in regular smash
I main greninja and I can say that you need to learn how fast his shadow sneak is since there are some maps where you can’t see the shadow on the floor so you need to learn the speed and shit
It's nice to see such an underrated character get the love he deserves
Haha he made the REALLY FUNNY type advantage joke with Ninja Frog and Buff fire cat (;
You can use substitut from under the enemie when you are in the air
Greninja is all about identifying openings. See an opening, react and utilize his explosive frame data, and get a tech chase/jab lock situation and apply the same rules of reaction with explosive frame data to continue the string.
I’d like to see Dr. Mario.
I feel you ma dude he's miss understood just because he's slower but in some occasions he's better than most of the Mario characters
He’s my main. I thought he was trash, but his combos are some of the best in my opinion
@@thecasual8413 You bet they are their fast strong & will rank up damage in no time
Thank you for this, i’ve been maining greninja and now i finally know how to use it properly thank you
I'm currently picking up greninja, and I think this video was a great source for the fighter. I will go into this character with knowledge
Check out apolotions tutorials. Best greninja guides out there
I swear no one ever mentions up throw to short hop nair at low percents. It’s a really good combo starter.
Know why. It isn't true.
Also shortup upair or upsmash would be better. Upsmash for good damage or upair for drag down
Late but also down throw down smash and use your a for the multiple hit. It’s a crazy combo starter at early games. Almost no recovery.
0:29 I assume we aren’t counting other forms for the speed
Greninjas wall jump is different as well. He can actually stick to walls for a few seconds.
After joker please do ROB. I am so stoked you did geninja though. He is one of my alts and sadly I just discovered the "wall jump" he can do like 2 days ago and his counter being able to go in different directions I learned last night. You can also use the counter as recovery but thats kinda situational but its awesome.
I was waiting for this all day. Thank you!
You do realize that Sceptile has a bad speed of 145? Greninja has 122. 0:32 pause and read the second line.
In my opinion, Greninja also has one of the weirdest announcer calls.
Greh-nin-ja. Weird
@@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779 and the way he says it too.
greninja is underrated. period. watched this, picked him up, and a week later he is my first character i elite smash.
he destroys heavies because he's fast, he destroys lightweight beacuse of fair and fsmash, and he destroys meduim-weights because of his combo game and kill options.
Thank you choctopus for the tips because I main greninja and now I can beat my brother in smash
Whoa there he is.
i've been sleeping on greninja for a LONG TIME then i just turned on training mode played noticed he was good, mained him and started spamming up smash, up air, and dash attack
These are very well done, thank you I enjoy watching them!
I subscribed, since I love to use my main Greninja!
Thanks for the sub!
@@Choctopus I have a question. Now, I play Smash Bros for the 3DS, and when I play as Greninja, you know when you hold down the A button, he either does punches first? I like to do when you hold down the A button, SOMETIMES he wags his hands all around rapidly. Now, when I press down on the A button, I just want him to do that move, not the three punches. And I've watched CPU Greninja do this, and he can do the wagging his hands all around move all the time, and SOMETIMES the three punches. I (as a player) just want him to wag his hands, whenever I press down on A, but I need to do it several times to do it. How do I fix / do this move? If you know which move I'm talking about. Can you please tell me? Thank You.
Im happy that some people recognize greninja is great
I actually main greninja and was the first character I picked up back in smash 4 (my first smash game)... greninja is not hard to main... also quick combo with greninja-back air (no 3rd hit), side tilt, etc.
I am very open in improving on playing as Greninja so this is awesome
I apreciate it, Thanks.
I recently got a switch, but haven’t gotten smash yet, so I play at my friends next door, and I get destroyed
yeah you'll probably do joker next week but a lot of people and i would like it if you did the bounty hunter and edgy jellyfish, samus/darksamus!
when ever i play greninja i like to to spam down air and keep bouncing off
Can you do Mewtwo? Very underrated fighter with a lot of potential
I have a good idea of what Greninja’s codec call would be:
Snake: Otacon, this may sound crazy, but there seems to be a strange creature here. It resembles a cross between a frog and a ninja.
Otacon: And that, Snake, would be Greninja.
Snake: Greninja? Is that a…Pokémon?
Otacon: Yes. Greninja is the final evolved form of Froakie. It’s a Water/Dark type. Be careful, Snake. Like it’s name suggests, it has the agility and speed of a ninja. It can also compress water into throwing stars, or shurikens.
Snake: The speed and agility of a ninja. I don’t know why, but I’m getting some serious Gray Fox vibes here.
Otacon: Good to see you have some degree of familiarity with your opponent.
Snake: Believe me, Otacon, I’ve dealt with some pretty agile foes in my life.
Greninja is my Favorite character in super smash bro’s ultimate💙🌊🐸
Let's go my main getting noticed
That’s crazy I just started playing him too
I suggest to greninja players to be careful with the downtilt/dashattack to fair it is easy to airdodge and i don't really recommend the jab lock After a falling upair because you Can easily tech it, it sometimes connects with a downtilt or uptilt as a true combo. Finally the combos shown in the video are not true combos for some of them but still really good mixups. Anyway this is a good tutorial and WE lack of these with greninja!
Bowser jr for next week or after the next person
Can you do Joker one day? I'm decent with him, but I'm struggling to find my kill options
DiverAMVs same
what a fantasticly informative video, going to pick this character up right after i sub :)
Joker is too new. Let the dust settle before going after him. Go for Wii Fit Trainer.
You should do Incineroar next (after Joker)
Thx I was waiting
Samus/Dark Samus sometime?
1 2 3 4
How many Greninjas are in my store
I know you’re using Water Shuriken
😢 some young souls won't understand this reference
DeeJay4403 Kids these days, ekekekek
@@SpagEddie8113 it's the how many heccers who have n word passes are in my store vine right?
yeetus deletus You betcha
@@SpagEddie8113 Eyy, didn't grow up with vine (was in it's prime when I was like 6) but I know some
His triple Kick....
*me goin to get my speed glasses*
Yes Greninja my favourate out of them all
Nice video, I main the black greninja with the orange tongue
Joker next week! After Joker, maybe Roy/Chrom?
Almost all of these “combos” can be easily avoided by jumping or dodging, and many of the moves don’t force a tech chase like you said. Really helpful
My biggest problem with greninja in my opinion is the transition between certain moves. For example, I can't do down tilt to up smash if my life depended on it. I either do a dash attack, forward smash or up tilt on complete accident.
thank you 5 years ago choc
I’ve been here asking for Greninja but it already exists!
Thanks for my request !
Finally I would know how to play my main, Greninja, in Smash and not lose in mostly all the battles because I always use Greninja as my main😁
Greninjas not the easiest, but this really helped me.
I have other trick how to do it throw some one of the platforms if he jumps back charge shuriken and letsgo if he is about do step on the platform again and he can’t save him self anymore
4:54 ik im 5 years late but thats not a wave bounc thats still a b reverse wave bouncing u start and finish looking in the same direction u input a b reverse then instantly input the other direction
after joker could you do samus i want to use her but i am bad and can't improve
iggy gamer samus has no gender
@@akiraez9231 pretty sure she is feamale.
n0skillz YT Zero Suit Samus is Samus but without the suit so she’s confirmed female
InfiniteGreninja yes but if u include dark samus theres no bio gender
n0skillz YT Dark Samus and Samus are completely different things. Samus is just a woman in a suit, dark Samus is a Metroid that copied her suit and it’s abilities.
I changed I actually main him thanks for the vid also like
The master of spin arises from the darkness ROB...give em the side B
FINALLY THANKS
I tried playing with greninja, but I wish his jumps were lower, because his air attacks are amazing, but the jumping throws everything off. I wish his jump mechanic was similar to shiek. I hate high jumping characters, makes comboing enemies ridiculously hard especially against heavy or light characters.
U can do it but it’s hard I’m leaning how to do it
@@GamingFun-mf5zw yea, after a while I understood how to work with his unique style
Greninja = Pokémon Naruto 🍥
Greninja is one of my favorite water type
Please do a Wario guide!
DLC boy joker would be cool, but show some more Pokémon love! Lucario or Incineroar please
Do a breakdown to ken/ryu
(Usually I prefer ken)
2:02 Becouse
Yeah joker bro
Greninja is easily one of my favorite characters to play
Do pit please! I’m an aspiring pit main and could use some help
Thanks!
Joker next week! ;)
I’m getting smash soon and wanna learn more about my boi
Thanks You man I can Play Greninja With a Minimum Experience