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    SHOW NOTES ►► thisweekinlinux.com/266
    Forum Thread ►► forum.tuxdigital.com/t/266-fu...
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:30 Linux Over 2% on Steam Survey
    02:14 You can help shape the Future of KDE
    05:26 Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool for Linux
    06:47 blendOS 4 Released
    10:03 Kali Linux 2024.2 Released
    11:58 Parrot OS 6.1 Released
    13:36 Linux Mint will hide Unverified Flatpaks
    17:20 NixOS 24.05 Released
    19:22 Purism is “Profitable” . . . somehow 🤷‍♂️
    25:24 Happy Birthday to Krita & Phoronix
    27:05 Outro
    SHOW NOTES ►► thisweekinlinux.com/266
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    - Linux Over 2% on Steam Survey
    - store.steampowered.com/hwsurv...
    - www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/06...
    - You can help shape the Future of KDE
    - blog.lydiapintscher.de/2024/0...
    - www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-Goa...
    - phabricator.kde.org/T15613
    - Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool for Linux
    - destinationlinux.net/374 (releases Monday June 10th)
    - www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/06...
    - www.bleepingcomputer.com/news...
    - blendOS 4 Released
    - blendos.co/blog/2024/06/05/bl...
    - 9to5linux.com/immutable-distr...
    - Kali Linux 2024.2 Released
    - www.kali.org/blog/kali-linux-...
    - 9to5linux.com/kali-linux-2024...
    - lwn.net/Articles/977303/
    - Parrot OS 6.1 Released
    - parrotsec.org/blog/2024-06-05...
    - 9to5linux.com/security-orient...
    - Linux Mint will hide Unverified Flatpaks
    - blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4719
    - www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/06/l...
    - NixOS 24.05 Released
    - nixos.org/blog/announcements/...
    - www.linux-magazine.com/Online...
    - Purism is "Profitable" . . . somehow 🤷‍♂️
    - puri.sm/posts/2023-finance-re...
    - / purism_creator_of_foss...
    - Happy Birthday to Krita & Phoronix
    - krita.org/en/posts/2024/krita...
    - www.phoronix.com/news/Phoroni...
    - www.phoronix.com/news/20-Year...
    - www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-H...
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  • @mangodude-nq6su
    @mangodude-nq6su 18 дней назад +25

    The thing with flatpak is classic Linux ecosystem UX issue. They just need to add a warning when you install an unverified app "Have you checked the application? Are you sure it's a real one?" Because EVERYONE will flip that switch in settings to install Chrome and forget about that

  • @zxuiji
    @zxuiji 18 дней назад +6

    To any librem members that happen to read this, we don't need another apple. Make the prices reflect the hardware already.

  • @gmt1
    @gmt1 18 дней назад +13

    I like the "Unverified Flatpak" thing on Mint. It continues LM's theme of being user-friendly and easy to recommend to new Linux users and older tech illiterate folks.

  • @the-answer-is-42
    @the-answer-is-42 18 дней назад +16

    I don't mind another AV tool, malware definitely exists for Linux (it's just typically targeting servers and not desktop, iirc), but I won't use Kaspersky.

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 18 дней назад +1

      What about MS Defender? (yeah, it exists for Linux lol)

    • @the-answer-is-42
      @the-answer-is-42 18 дней назад

      @@tablettablete186 Not sure, I would have to think about it and look into it.

  • @thingsiplay
    @thingsiplay 18 дней назад +2

    Nix
    As you mentioned that Nix packages work on other distros, I wanted to add that Nix packages even work on Steam Deck. And I mean in the wrote protected mode enabled. Valve did integrated Nix package system officially into the Steam Deck file structure and made exceptions, so you can install any software from it. I did not try it out yet, but apparently it works.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад +2

      That’s super interesting, didn’t know it worked there

  • @rick_mars3599
    @rick_mars3599 18 дней назад +8

    7:45 I wonder if BlendOS is as flexible when it comes to declaring the system from a haci file as NixOS, I was curious and now I'm going to take a look at it

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад +2

      I’m curious about that too, please report back

  • @boyscout399
    @boyscout399 18 дней назад +11

    I was part of the steam survey this time around, my Manjaro counted!

  • @Bob-of-Zoid
    @Bob-of-Zoid 18 дней назад +2

    Oh dear, the KDE folk may agree to some of the app upgrades I will suggest, but not so much the amount of work that may have to go into making it happen, and I have some good ones that go all the way into the core and the interoperability of KDE apps in the realm of what one uses for home office/small business, and based on one of the best OS's I have ever tried: BeOS (The 195 version in 1995) It didn't work on anything but the hardware they made or had made for them, and together they were quite expensive, although justifiably so, but way more than I could cough up. There was nothing else like it that wasn't custom made for some huge corporation like a major bank, insurance company... and it was geared toward business and home use and was a fully multi threaded system (Maybe the first commercial one), and it could play 10 videos all at once while working on a spread sheet, and on Win 95 and a 486 you were lucky to watch one without glitches!

    • @osbert
      @osbert 18 дней назад +1

      I'm looking forward to the suggestions, interoperability update/upgrades would be a welcome thing. Will be very interesting to see how they can bend (without breaking) wayland to be actually functional and fit for purpose in this regard too.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid 18 дней назад +1

      @@osbert Mostly I have suggestions for their apps as in added functionality, not as much the UI. The problems with Wayland and all those adopting it is that the adopters are newer to it, and Wayland makers still have ways to go to work out all the kinks, but I don't know jack about programming, but I can make suggestions as a power user who could use some new tricks in my OS and apps! It all helps.

  • @jan_harald
    @jan_harald 17 дней назад +2

    I definitely like the smash button!

  • @FengLengshun
    @FengLengshun 18 дней назад

    blendOS, from what I've tried and seen of the development, feels really like "We have rpm-ostree at home." There was a bunch of weird bugs and limitations, that in the end just led to them being home-made rpm-ostree. Compared to the infrastructure at Universal Blue and NixOS, it feels rather kludge. Though it is at least more understandable than NixOS and it does come out, unlike the delayware that VanillaOS has become.

  • @EvanEdwards
    @EvanEdwards 18 дней назад +1

    I am in no way a video gamer, but I do like good hardware support, and there's nothing like gamers that drives cutting edge hardware support and Enterprise customers to drive quality, stable hardware support.

  • @louisfifteen
    @louisfifteen 18 дней назад +4

    I think Purism should be investigated by the authorities. I never fell for their act back in 2017. Firstly because their hardware sucked and I had this gut feeling about them. It just sounded too good to be true and when Gardiner Bryant recommended in like an almost religious way, I know it was a hoax.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад

      tbh, I don't think it's hard to get such a recommendation, lol
      you make a product that fits the person's ideals, then sponsor them, and boom

  • @nowycwan
    @nowycwan 18 дней назад +1

    About unverified debs. Packages, such like deb, have build script.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад +1

      Proprietary deb packages are a thing. Sublime Text is an example of a native proprietary deb

    • @nowycwan
      @nowycwan 16 дней назад

      @@michael_tunnell and ran it closed-source binary not included in system during installation?

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  16 дней назад

      I’m not sure what it is you are asking, please clarify

    • @nowycwan
      @nowycwan 15 дней назад

      @@michael_tunnell Does install script in this deb file ran binary file not included in Operating System (I mean it unpack executable and ran it as root)?

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  15 дней назад

      I think I understand what you’re saying now but DEBs are not just build scripts. in fact, they aren’t build scripts at all because compilation is not needed to install from deb. There are binaries included in DEB packages.
      As for root, every DEB package requires root to be installed. When you install a deb file you run “sudo apt install …” and this gives the file and everything in it root privileges. DEB files do not have any security mechanism built into the format.

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 17 дней назад +2

    👍As always thanks. And Karsper.... no thanks.

  • @miku
    @miku 10 дней назад

    3rd Place in the Steam HW survey goes to the Flatpak version?
    damn those peolple have a deathwish.
    or a lack of drives.

  • @QueeeeenZ
    @QueeeeenZ 18 дней назад

    I'm hoping KDE will improve the design UI

  • @knghtbrd
    @knghtbrd 18 дней назад +13

    Kaspersky was one of the best companies for anti-malware for awhile. Problem was, a few years ago their software was caught phoning home with information from the computers of selected targets… The company is located in Russia and they likely weren't offered a choice in the matter. Nonetheless, I won't be running anything from Kaspersky until the political situation demonstrably changes.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад +3

      honestly, more trustworthy than most usa companies
      especially since they've worked to increase transparency, e.g. not keeping your data in russia, but in swizerland, or opening multiple transparency centers to allow state agencies and and government experts to examine the source code (though it's certainly possible to be extra cleaned up, it'd take a lot of effort)
      if you're not specifically pissing off russian secret service, then you've got nothing to fear, at least not any more than any other companies, I'd still trust them over e.g. mcafee, lol (which also has a linux version, which sux hard)

  • @yusky03
    @yusky03 18 дней назад +10

    I basically never get a prompt for the Steam Survey but this time I got one for all 4 of my Linux machines so that is +4 machines for me. "I'm doing my part."
    Kaspersky is a Russian company. That should have probably been mentioned. KGB could force them to do nefarious things.

    • @espertempo
      @espertempo 18 дней назад +7

      That’s exactly the same case for US or any other app. We only get to choose who steals our data.

    • @lmnk
      @lmnk 18 дней назад +4

      Kaspersky is not tied to Russia for years now, really...

    • @avyam7509
      @avyam7509 18 дней назад +2

      I think the CIA is more nefarious than KGB LoL.

    • @sovietchocolate
      @sovietchocolate 18 дней назад +3

      KGB was dissolved 32 years ago

    • @4upikov
      @4upikov 15 дней назад

      there no kgb in russia

  • @louisfifteen
    @louisfifteen 18 дней назад +7

    Kaspersky is russian and under the grave circumstances with war on Ukraine, I would not touch with a witches broom and it is free makes it even more questionable.
    I recently ditched win11 for Ubuntu 24.04 and I'm still happy with my choice only My favorite game Forza Horizon 5 will not run in Steam. The installation path is too long it says, but all my other games are installed in the same library, so I am not experienced enough to move it to another, shorter library, anyone???

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад

      honestly, more trustworthy than most usa companies
      especially since they've worked to increase transparency, e.g. not keeping your data in russia, but in swizerland, or opening multiple transparency centers to allow state agencies and and government experts to examine the source code (though it's certainly possible to be extra cleaned up, it'd take a lot of effort)
      if you're not specifically pissing off russian secret service, then you've got nothing to fear, not any more than from any other company

    • @louisfifteen
      @louisfifteen 16 дней назад

      @@jan_harald It is still not open source, right?

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 16 дней назад

      @@louisfifteen yeah, while they have some open source repos, none of the malware-detection stuff is open, makes sense why, too, if it was open source it'd be way easier to specifically design your malware to be undetectable, at least with any degree of certainty

    • @louisfifteen
      @louisfifteen 16 дней назад

      @@jan_harald Are you saying that closed source software cannot be penetrated by mallware?

    • @RichardLucas
      @RichardLucas 5 дней назад

      @@jan_harald Is that really supposed to be encouragement? "If you don't piss off someone then you have nothing to fear. use it." Lol. They should hire you to promote their product. Genius.

  • @VallThyo
    @VallThyo 18 дней назад +3

    I can see the appeal of immutable distros, but a arch based one? And funnily enough I had more issues with immutable distros because dependencies breaking/mismatch than with normal arch. But we're getting so many of them lately, it's must just me using it wrong I guess.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад +6

      SteamOS for the Steam Deck is also an immutable arch based distro 😎

    • @eps-nx8zg
      @eps-nx8zg 18 дней назад

      the thing is a lot of immutable distros are kind of new/hype train stuff, I would always recommend sticking to something that has been around for a long time and have good support like silverblue or nixos.

  • @northof-62
    @northof-62 18 дней назад

    NixOS install stopped at 46%

  • @stamy
    @stamy 18 дней назад +1

    Giving Russian administrator rights to our devices is stupid. Remember the NSA contractor incident in 2017 that led to a loss of classified data? It was already Kaspersky.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад

      honestly, more trustworthy than most usa companies
      especially since they've worked to increase transparency, e.g. not keeping your data in russia, but in swizerland, or opening multiple transparency centers to allow state agencies and and government experts to examine the source code (though it's certainly possible to be extra cleaned up, it'd take a lot of effort)
      if you're not specifically pissing off russian secret service, then you've got nothing to fear

  • @tomhighsmith
    @tomhighsmith 18 дней назад

    I just spent a few days installing and trying Linux mint. My findings were negative, very slow startup, everything hangs for no reason? No response to mouse movements or keyboard. It was a somewhat older Asus laptop, but it runs Win 10 very well.

  • @cxa24
    @cxa24 13 дней назад

    Impossible for this to be a tunnel

  • @Thurgenev
    @Thurgenev 18 дней назад +4

    About flatpaks and Mint warning message... it's a good feature.
    It doenst apply to distro repos because distros shares it's reliability to their repos packages and mainteiners, while unverified flatpaks are on top of what ?
    The great feature of flatpak is it's portability, and thats all. Portability is not related to reliability, so reliability has to be discussed separately, and honestly.
    I sincerly dont understand this love for flatpak. Portability is great indeed, but it's only portability. Dont make it reliability base in your love for portability.

  • @laylasmart
    @laylasmart 16 дней назад

    No word about Zorin 17.1?

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  15 дней назад

      I covered Zorin 17.1 3 months ago
      ruclips.net/video/0cCBn-iMOUY/видео.html

    • @laylasmart
      @laylasmart 15 дней назад

      @@michael_tunnell
      Cool... Thanks.
      Did you covered by chance running Windows third party audio and video software using both bottles and wine? Some software do not have a Linux version and Zorin looks like a promising thing in that, but we lack the experience with make it working. A video that teach that will be good.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  15 дней назад

      I did not cover specific usecases. I covered the news of the release. What you are asking is a very broad request so the best I can say is to search for support or tutorials on the specific software you are wanting. Since you didnt list what the software is, I dont have any advice to share.

    • @laylasmart
      @laylasmart 15 дней назад

      @@michael_tunnell
      Thanks. I would write to Zorin directly about that, but there's no email address..

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  15 дней назад

      @laylasmart that’s true but they do have a forum for help, forum.zorin.com/

  • @ocularpatdown
    @ocularpatdown 18 дней назад +17

    Kaspersky is Russian. There is NO way in hell that goes anywhere near any of my tech.

    • @avyam7509
      @avyam7509 18 дней назад +10

      I think my data is more safe in Russian hands than the US lol.

    • @DCM777.
      @DCM777. 18 дней назад +2

      @@avyam7509 Amen.

    • @firebird687
      @firebird687 17 дней назад +1

      @@avyam7509 Why don’t you move to Russia right away?

    • @romany8125
      @romany8125 17 дней назад

      @@avyam7509 cause russia is economically strong, freedom oriented, liberal, and progressive state 🤣😅😂😛🤪😄

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад +1

      @@romany8125 freedom? in EITHER of those countries? progressive? lmfao, what a jokester you are

  • @TJ-hs1qm
    @TJ-hs1qm 18 дней назад +1

    Best news show 😸

  • @giveaway4002
    @giveaway4002 18 дней назад +2

    GREAT

  • @ulkesh99
    @ulkesh99 18 дней назад +1

    Purism is clearly misleading. Time to move on.

  • @llomellamomario
    @llomellamomario 18 дней назад +1

    20:36 no benefit of the doubt when they have been taking the amount of money they have been asking for their phones, and when consumers have asked to either a refund or the device they paid off, their only respone was for them to "fuck off". They know very well that statement is not true, because of their policy about the refunds.
    21:08 of course I am profitable too if I beg customers for money then proceed to not deliver to them and tell them to fuck off when they come asking for what they paid for.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад

      Do you have a source where they said that too people? I’d like to reference that in the future. As for the benefit of the doubt, I didn’t really give them any. I just made a joke after that calling them incompetent

    • @llomellamomario
      @llomellamomario 18 дней назад

      @@michael_tunnell This was covered by Louis Rossman a year ago. ruclips.net/video/wKegmu0V75s/видео.html
      They have not said it with those exact words mind you. But when a customer asks for a refund after 3 years of not receiving what they paid for, and they use slimey words that a big corporation would be proud of, just to not refund a customer, they are effectively telling you as a consumer to fuck off. Are they using those words? No, because it is bad PR. It is what they are doing to customers? Effectively, yes, and I don't like to sugar coat it when people have been effectively scammed out of their money.
      For the record, back then I searched and it did not take me long to find more than a few people complaining they did have similar issues to what Louis talked about in his video. I don't know the status today, it could have changed from a year back to now. But if a company is willing to do that once, what are the odds of them doing it again?

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  4 дня назад

      Oh yea I know about this stuff. I was asking for a reference to quote that but yea, they have been very sketch for years.
      The first time I unleashed on Purism was in 2019, ruclips.net/video/iu4AQHzhnJg/видео.html
      This made me curious which other times I made fun of Purism and here's the list lol
      thisweekinlinux.com/51
      thisweekinlinux.com/91
      thisweekinlinux.com/98
      thisweekinlinux.com/119
      thisweekinlinux.com/155
      thisweekinlinux.com/168
      thisweekinlinux.com/234
      and then the more recent stuff. Purism has pretty much always sucked

  • @MichalSmolinsky
    @MichalSmolinsky 18 дней назад +6

    Install our KGB malware tool

  • @louisfifteen
    @louisfifteen 18 дней назад +1

    Oh, and thank you Michael for another great and informative show.

  • @Just-Another_Channel
    @Just-Another_Channel 12 дней назад

    I feel physical pain, whenever I hear about yet another immutable distro.
    They take absolutely all the benefits of Linux and throws it out the Window.
    It's like you're back on Windows, where you don't even own your PC.
    It's disgusting and I will fight, so it never becomes the default.
    If that trash gets into everything, I'm moving to BSD or Redox or something.

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  12 дней назад +1

      In my opinion, the whole point of these types is to offer an easier entry solution for average users and people who don’t want customization. I don’t see a world where they replace traditional distros just more of an alternative for people who want it

  • @Lavashyk
    @Lavashyk 18 дней назад +7

    I will never put russian software (such as Kaspersky) on my computer. Another telemetry from russian gov.

    • @epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur
      @epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur 18 дней назад +4

      what about american software?

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 18 дней назад +1

      @@epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur what about it, Ivan?

    • @epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur
      @epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur 18 дней назад +1

      @@ocularpatdown Van Darkhole?

    • @Lavashyk
      @Lavashyk 18 дней назад +1

      @@epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur American is fine, just avoid telemetry and it will be ok. But using the russian one without telemetry is still amoral, tho.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад

      @@Lavashyk not any more amoral, lol
      do you support flat out invasions and rule-breaking, or do you prefer keeping up the pretense of freedom and following rules you've made yourself, while doing it? no real difference ;P

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 17 дней назад

    In 2025 there will be the start of a large migration of Windows Users to Linux. I hope Linux, and 3rd party add-on, will be ready with their solutions.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад +2

      it will be THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!!!
      lol

  • @monabuu
    @monabuu 18 дней назад +1

    FYI, Kaspersky is a Russian company

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад

      If this is intended to for me, yes I’m aware and we talk about this in Destination Linux episode. This will be releasing in just a couple of hours

    • @DCM777.
      @DCM777. 18 дней назад

      Good!

  • @firebird687
    @firebird687 17 дней назад +1

    Kaspersky is well known malware

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад +1

      not any more than any other antivirus, lol, I'd honestly trust them more than norton/avg, or mcafee
      most antivirus is a scam anyway, they rarely react in time, and either have way too much false positives, or just fail to recognize and give false negatives

  • @discocat2500
    @discocat2500 18 дней назад +2

    Kaspersky has always had a glowy Russia vibe. No thanks.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 17 дней назад

      honestly, I'd still trust them more than e.g. mcafee or norton/avg, lol

  • @louchitchat
    @louchitchat 18 дней назад

    I support any steps to improve security, baby ste are better than nothing

  • @DRIVING_ME_CRAZY
    @DRIVING_ME_CRAZY 18 дней назад +2

    When will we have the first Linux distro built and maintained by AI?

    • @greenrocket23
      @greenrocket23 18 дней назад +4

      Maybe RedHat/IBM and Canonical are already working on it.
      Either way, you won't catch me using any of that fr fr

  • @nou712
    @nou712 19 дней назад +41

    Kaspersky is never what i want to use on my freaking desktop. It's proprietary and it demands root right away. It also has ties to a particular government and its security apparatus. Do not run that thing.

    • @SimonJackson13
      @SimonJackson13 18 дней назад +1

      Modi?

    • @CentroidYT
      @CentroidYT 18 дней назад +6

      You never will need it. There are few viruses on linux, and as longas you have a decent amount of tech literacy, you will not get a virus.

    • @lemonadeforlife
      @lemonadeforlife 18 дней назад

      ​@@CentroidYTAwareness is more than enough to prevent virus

    • @DrewTNaylor
      @DrewTNaylor 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@SimonJackson13 Russia.

    • @Mohojo
      @Mohojo 18 дней назад +2

      Yep I’d never run that on my system.

  • @kajoma1782
    @kajoma1782 16 дней назад

    verified malware apps are shown

  • @0versun0
    @0versun0 18 дней назад +14

    fucking russia kaspersky come on, seriously?

  • @IRDazza
    @IRDazza 18 дней назад

    I like this channel BUT I HATE "G" NEWS! Its "NEWS!" Sorry, long day. Why does everything linux have to be "G" info, "G" news, "G" what the hell? Many Linux users, like myself have an IQ larger than a 15 Y.O. and also work with other systems like "W" windows, and "O" osx. and "U" unix ?!?!?!

    • @Wilker_uwu
      @Wilker_uwu 18 дней назад +5

      i'm a gnews enjoyer, i love gnuwatching my gnweekly source of gnews and be gninformed about the gnews of the gnecosystem. :3

    • @michael_tunnell
      @michael_tunnell  18 дней назад +5

      Not everyone will enjoy everything, I get that but GNews is not what you think. This is a joke about the nonsense of GNU being pronounced as guh-noo and the people who insist on calling the system GNU/Linux. So the slogan is just a joke in those things. I also only say it 2 times per episode, intro and outro.

    • @jesse7631
      @jesse7631 18 дней назад +1

      Really? I think it's funny, and actually look forward to it. It's not like Michael is using that play on words everywhere. It's just in that one small phrase.

  • @pjpodx
    @pjpodx 18 дней назад

    what Kaspersky ??? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspersky_bans_and_allegations_of_Russian_government_ties