Plasma 6.1: the BEST LINUX DESKTOP (in my opinion)

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  • @TheLinuxEXP
    @TheLinuxEXP  6 месяцев назад +14

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    • @keilmillerjr9701
      @keilmillerjr9701 6 месяцев назад +1

      Chatgtp is incredibly racist and wrong about facts, taking direction from the feds. I doubt openai is any better as Microsoft is a dirty company. Time for you to get a new sponsor and stop pushing your left wing state propaganda.

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 6 месяцев назад +1

      This might be the first time I've seen a channel that isn't political sponsored by ground news lol.

    • @keilmillerjr9701
      @keilmillerjr9701 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Chr0n0s38 He is one of those support Ukraine without knowing what is really going on kind of guys, and inserts it here and there. I wasn't shocked to see this ad. It is also no surprise to see my prior comment removed. No 1st amendment in the USA anymore.

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 6 месяцев назад

      @@keilmillerjr9701 Even still, he's not a channel that focuses on politics. Also, plenty of anti-Ukraine channels get sponsored by ground news too lol.

    • @keilmillerjr9701
      @keilmillerjr9701 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Chr0n0s38 My prior comment mentioned ai being racist and politically biased at instructions from the feds. That's where I have the problem. It's been known that all these fact checkers and such are bullshit. Why tarnish your tech platform with such crap? I don't get it.

  • @lordkordus8139
    @lordkordus8139 6 месяцев назад +537

    White text on white background is the best UX design ever

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  6 месяцев назад +112

      That was pretty bad, yeah 😂

    • @aronkvh
      @aronkvh 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TheLinuxEXP were you using neon unstable though?

    • @nategraham4027
      @nategraham4027 6 месяцев назад +101

      Oh my goodness, this looks bad. I failed to notice this bug because it doesn't happen when using a custom accent color, but I can reproduce it with the default settings. I'll fix it.

    • @Samantas5855
      @Samantas5855 6 месяцев назад

      @@nategraham4027 Same thing happens for me when I right click the clock > Configure Digital Clock > Text Display: Manual > Choose Style while on Breeze Dark

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid 6 месяцев назад +7

      That was actually a big problem with Windows 3.1 and 95, until Microsoft finally made it impossible to set any text on any background that weren't several shades apart. Now sure, anyone doing that should expect not to be able to read anything, and lose control of the system unless they can remember where what button was and fix it, as I had to for having had clients with that problem, but I couldn't blame Microsoft for it because some people are just stupid enough to have to find out the hard way what happens when you have white on white! Otherwise I hated Windows for not giving me finer control over shit, taking away changes I made needing more serious hacking to do so, as if I did it by accident... because by default M$ assumed all users were just utterly stupid (now more so than ever since so many users proved they were just that), and incapable of knowing what they want, and I felt very insulted just using their POS OS and software's!
      In Linux it can be a side affect of using themes that people publish in half baked state that work right in one DE, but not others... are not even done yet like when making a dark theme off of a light one... in that case it's not the users fault, but those who see a communal publishing platform like the KDE store as their personal playground or test bed that has no rules for their own entertainment, without the rest of the community in mind, ... and well they really need some rules there badly, as well as some serious version control.

  • @Akselmoi
    @Akselmoi 6 месяцев назад +232

    I have rounded the corners. Pray I do not round them further.

  • @miguelguthridge
    @miguelguthridge 6 месяцев назад +201

    Even though I'm a Gnome user now, KDE was my first love, and it's awesome seeing it grow and improve.

    • @cyberturkey77
      @cyberturkey77 6 месяцев назад +24

      KDE runs like shit on Nvidia lets face it. Gnome just works less laggy, better scaling, easier...

    • @jinmong5417
      @jinmong5417 6 месяцев назад +42

      So you cheated on KDE

    • @Kevin-oj2uo
      @Kevin-oj2uo 6 месяцев назад +7

      Idk to be honest I feel KDE is so overwhelming because of so many features and changes you can do.

    • @zzahkaboom24-gaming
      @zzahkaboom24-gaming 6 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@cyberturkey77 No, it does not.
      After installing the Nvidia drivers, it always worked fine before Plasma 6.
      After Plasma 6, it works perfectly fine without them too, but I still install the drivers for obvious reasons

    • @mand4lex
      @mand4lex 6 месяцев назад +1

      Aww how sweet

  • @PetersonSilva
    @PetersonSilva 6 месяцев назад +110

    If you place the panel inside the wallpaper in edit mode, you kind of have to guess how it will look once you exit edit mode. So things like setting panel height can become guesswork instead of straightforward. There may be other reasons but this was the first I thought of and I think it's great that the panel "pops" and stays out of the way, it's a very important element and I think it's intuitive that it is highlighted this way
    Agree on the top bar though

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  6 месяцев назад +18

      That makes sense!

    • @rileyn2983
      @rileyn2983 6 месяцев назад +18

      Top bar is probably like that so it doesn't get in the way if you have a top panel

    • @Arvigeus
      @Arvigeus 6 месяцев назад +4

      Why guesswork? Everything would be scaled proportionally to the screen, so you will get an idea how would it look. Maybe if you are aiming for pixel-perfect results, then yes.

    • @Scoobin
      @Scoobin 6 месяцев назад +4

      came to say this. I did like the comment that the settings at the top didn't need to remain inside that window. If top panels are a problem, those settings could switch to the bottom. Not a deal-breaker by any means tho and the KDE team has done great.

    • @PetersonSilva
      @PetersonSilva 6 месяцев назад

      @@rileyn2983 oooohhh that's a great point about the top bar

  • @JureRepinc
    @JureRepinc 6 месяцев назад +54

    KDE Plasma is not just best on GNU/Linux but also in general. I have to use proprietary OSes at work and nothing even comes close to customizability and power of KDE Plasma. All looks just as slick and if not more, especially when you customize it.

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 6 месяцев назад +8

      Well said. I sometimes think that "it's time that I try to switch away from Plasma"... and end up just customizing it into a completely different desktop instead.
      Using MacOS at work feels like nails on a chalkboard in comparison lmao.

  • @ryuketsuekiofficial
    @ryuketsuekiofficial 6 месяцев назад +203

    From what I have read, the blurry/pixelated enlarged cursor is a limitation of XCursor directly, something that I think HyprCursor aimed to fix, but you know the rest of the story. I would have submitted a bug to KDE otherwise.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 6 месяцев назад +4

      I don't know the rest.

    • @balloontune1769
      @balloontune1769 6 месяцев назад +37

      @@MrGamelover23 hyprcursor uses a single svg files as a cursor face rather than multiple png/jpg file for each scaling/size option

    • @Arthur-hn5yk
      @Arthur-hn5yk 6 месяцев назад

      @@MrGamelover23 Hyprcursor/Hyprland dev got banned from Free Desktop

    • @kokop1107
      @kokop1107 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@balloontune1769theoretically that shouldn't be a problem right? A vector can scale infinitely after all

    • @sergeykish
      @sergeykish 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wayland client load and draw cursor themselves. It seems compositor cursors defined in "Cursor shape" Wayland protocol, implemented in KWin 6.0, Sway, Hyprland. I don't know rest of the story.

  • @BaremetalFlesh
    @BaremetalFlesh 6 месяцев назад +118

    okay but can we talk about how gorgeous the KDE desktop is getting?

    • @Arvigeus
      @Arvigeus 6 месяцев назад +18

      It always has been. It’s just getting better :)

    • @dbrugan
      @dbrugan 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Arvigeus in 4.x i totally agree, but 5.x i felt it varied between "ok" and "meh" though i don't know what exactly was the problem, maybe the color choice, but now i think it's pretty good

    • @jackwoodhead
      @jackwoodhead 6 месяцев назад

      I'm 50/50 about the new theme because it lowers legibility a bit and still has some rough edges.
      The animations on the other hand? Those really make Plasma shine. The switches are also so much better than the old check boxes.

    • @RegrinderAlert
      @RegrinderAlert 6 месяцев назад +29

      Almost all of the UI still looks like it’s made by programmers, not actual design experts. Margins, spacing, proportions - all off.

    • @Thorned_Rose
      @Thorned_Rose 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@RegrinderAlert Why don't you help out then? These things can't improve if all people do is whinge about them instead of stepping up and contributing.

  • @imnotexpecting9543
    @imnotexpecting9543 6 месяцев назад +64

    I'm using plasma 6.1 on arch testing and I used the beta. It was extremely smooth without crashes and the NVIDIA support on latest driver was supreme

    • @efeloteishe4675
      @efeloteishe4675 6 месяцев назад +2

      it's haven't made it to arch stable yet? I was just about to update the desktop.

    • @TheFeelTrain
      @TheFeelTrain 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@efeloteishe4675It came out yesterday. It normally takes a few days for something big like this to be tested.

    • @Sheikh-sz5gf
      @Sheikh-sz5gf 6 месяцев назад

      @@efeloteishe4675 for some reason it didn't

    • @lavavex
      @lavavex 6 месяцев назад +2

      Pray for stable soon

    • @janmeisel
      @janmeisel 6 месяцев назад

      @@efeloteishe4675 plasma 6.1 is now stable on Arch

  • @Alyx5512
    @Alyx5512 6 месяцев назад +111

    Basically kde plasma 6.1 is a ui and Nvidia update

    • @lovro_ribic
      @lovro_ribic 6 месяцев назад +44

      That is how updates work

    • @davuthaxor
      @davuthaxor 6 месяцев назад +2

      every update in something related to wayland, gaming or visuals is an nvidia update mostly cause many stuff isnt completed before

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 6 месяцев назад +5

      Dynamic triple buffering is also huge! (and I think also applies to both amd & nvidia gpus)

  • @WMan37
    @WMan37 6 месяцев назад +24

    8:05 11:01 This is huge for me, it was my biggest complaint with KDE's overview.

    • @starmechlx
      @starmechlx 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah, the single button overview thing is pretty big. I didn't know there was a way to do it via the CLI whenever I tried out KDE like a year ago, and it's my one gripe with pop-shell. It's something that the newer versions of Gnome do super well, imo. One button to see the overview, launch apps, rearrange windows to different workspaces and monitors, etc. It's just too good.

    • @WMan37
      @WMan37 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@starmechlx At this point, the only way KDE could get more perfect for my use cases is if I could make KRunner function identically to Cosmic Launcher with the open window finder, ctrl+number shortcuts and all, and there was a native, non janky taskbar GUI toggleable window tiler kwin script that works as well as PopOS's or better.

  • @AndyGait
    @AndyGait 6 месяцев назад +40

    The superkey to overview was something I just looking for this morning. 👍

  • @jackwoodhead
    @jackwoodhead 6 месяцев назад +33

    KDE Plasma is so freaking smooth and polished now. I've switched my gaming PC back and forth between Windows and Linux a few times over the years. Plasma used to be a stuttery mess on my system, Gnome was a little better, but I ended up using XFCE without a compositor because every Linux DE had at least a tiny bit of stutter.
    After pretty much exclusively running Windows for the past 2 years, I loaded up Fedora with Plasma 6. To say it was smooth would be an understatement. Windows was smooth (for the most part). Plasma 6 was pure butter. The difference can't be described. Zero micro-stutters. Not even the slightest slowdown while launching apps. Relentlessly smooth transitons and animations. Needless to say, my jaw was hanging low.
    And apparerently there were still optimizations that were yet to come out? I love the Gnome interface, but Plasma is easily the best desktop. I'm so excited to switch away from Windows for the last time (but I'll be patient and wait for 6.1 to become mainstream).

  • @KiraHerdman
    @KiraHerdman 6 месяцев назад +23

    I use KDE neon and the biggest fix over 6.05 for me was the disk space widget displaying the correct information and not doubling my SSD space !!!
    Keep up the good work.

    • @MrVanshajSaxena
      @MrVanshajSaxena 6 месяцев назад +1

      It multiplied my space with 10

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 6 месяцев назад +3

      No way! Time to bring that widget back into my panel!
      I'll miss the illusion of having a gigantic drive though :p

    • @Marsaxlok4
      @Marsaxlok4 5 месяцев назад

      on which distro

    • @KiraHerdman
      @KiraHerdman 5 месяцев назад

      @@Marsaxlok4 KDE neon like I said in my comment ...

  • @Beryesa.
    @Beryesa. 6 месяцев назад +474

    Imagine the deck gamers if they jump from 5.27 to 6.1 😂🌟

    • @davuthaxor
      @davuthaxor 6 месяцев назад +62

      they might just use the steam deck as primary pc

    • @DFGdanger
      @DFGdanger 6 месяцев назад +102

      We'd get....rounded corners?

    • @tau4333
      @tau4333 6 месяцев назад +42

      installed Gnome on my deck on Sunday, personally I find KDE is overloaded with features and settings...

    • @rgreening
      @rgreening 6 месяцев назад

      @@tau4333that is an old paradigm. I remember back in the day with GTK vs Qt (gnome vs KDE) people all being bent out of shape because one has more features and options and the other curates user experience and hides options and features to do so. Whatever works for you. Personally, let me have my options and ill turn them on/off vs having to install gnome tweaks to unhide options i wanted in the first place.

    • @manoloariza7605
      @manoloariza7605 6 месяцев назад +79

      ​@@tau4333I understand/agree.
      But better to have it and not use it rather than not having it (gnome)

  • @AslamNazeerShaikh
    @AslamNazeerShaikh 6 месяцев назад +32

    Hey thanks for creating this video. Just 3hours ago before you posted this video, i was searching Review video for 6.1 release and i did not got much but thankfully you upload now, its awesome. ❤🎉

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  6 месяцев назад +9

      Nice timing!

    • @mechwarrior83
      @mechwarrior83 6 месяцев назад

      I love it when youtube listens to you like that

  • @RenderingUser
    @RenderingUser 6 месяцев назад +6

    5:33 i personally love rounded edge rectangles. i hate how ui in general has moved over to either circles or sharp rectangles. but tbh, if plasma themes are incapable of changing how round a border is, that definitely is an issue that needs to be addressed for people that dont like rounded edge rectangles
    14:03 in quantity? maybe. but quality? kde tops

    • @KnightRiderOfVoid
      @KnightRiderOfVoid 6 месяцев назад +4

      Hey look, another rectangle-with-rounded-corners lover! We do exist, I hate full rounded or full square. If forced to pick between the two, I'd go with full squares over fully rounded though.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 6 месяцев назад

      @@KnightRiderOfVoid I'm fine with fully rounded, but I do think rounded rectangle is the cleanest look with fully square being the worst. Just having a slight rounded corner makes each window look more distinct from each other, square they just blend into each other.

    • @KnightRiderOfVoid
      @KnightRiderOfVoid 6 месяцев назад

      @@alexatkin there are options for full squared to not be confusing, like colored borders. The big gaps in fully rounded make my eye twitch hahah
      Preference I guess, but at least there are options either way, sadly we have less and less options for "squircles" nowadays, as fully rounded becomes the only option in most "modern" designs.

  • @Art-of-War-y6g
    @Art-of-War-y6g 6 месяцев назад +15

    In my opinion, the feature to start a session with all applications open will be a game changer. As a power user who relies heavily on automation for daily processes, I always open my sessions in a specific order to easily switch between windows using my notebook's touchpad. This helps me focus on what’s important instead of aimlessly navigating around. If my desktop can manage the autostart on its own, it will be a huge win for me.

    • @stephanhuebner4931
      @stephanhuebner4931 6 месяцев назад +2

      That's been possible for years with Plasma. I have several rules that automatically put certain autostarted apps on certain virtual desktops. Works like a charm, and one of the reasons why I'm still not using Wayland.

    • @Art-of-War-y6g
      @Art-of-War-y6g 6 месяцев назад

      @@stephanhuebner4931 Can you please describe the process you used to set the rules? Will it be the same when Wayland gains this functionality?

    • @MrTarkus01
      @MrTarkus01 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's worked fine in plasma/X11 for years. I can't work without it. The feature has been broken in plasma/XWayland.

    • @stephanhuebner4931
      @stephanhuebner4931 6 месяцев назад

      @@Art-of-War-y6g In Plasma 5 (and presumably 6 as well), it is most easily achieved by right-clicking on any window-titlebar of a specific application (say Firefox).,Tthen from the popup-menu choose "More Actions -> Configure special application settings". Then a window should pop up already containing the rule that affects every window of the application.
      In said window, you have to click the button "add property", then in the section "Size & Position" choose "Virtual Desktop". Back in the rules-window in the "Virtual Desktop"-line, in the two popup-menus you should chose "force" and the desktop you want the app to appear on. That should do it.
      And I assume the process will be mostly the same with Wayland, as the GUI-method is just an abstraction of what has to be done. How Wayland technically achieves it doesn't really matter for the configuration-process.

    • @jurgenhaan7652
      @jurgenhaan7652 6 месяцев назад

      Isn't this just defining what applications to open in your session manager? Most WM's support this if I'm not mistaken.

  • @frogmanjack
    @frogmanjack 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great 6.1 overview. I guess i will give it another shot after having issues with 6.0. Glad to see Nick is alive. I was worried when I didn't see a news video over the weekend.

  • @DREAMmediaCreativeStudio
    @DREAMmediaCreativeStudio 6 месяцев назад +10

    KDE, please bring back the mouse gestures! I'm so used to this and it's now vital to me.

  • @RifazNahiyanFWS
    @RifazNahiyanFWS 6 месяцев назад +1

    You are absolutely spot on with your opinions regarding the whole Edit Mode chapter. I feel exactly all that too! Thank you for the deep dive. It really shows that you gave it a complete demo instead of just reading the bullet points.

  • @nikkehtine
    @nikkehtine 5 месяцев назад +4

    Plasma is gradually looking less like a "nerdy open source project for Windows immigrants" and much more like a gorgeous, polished commercial-grade solution. Now is the time more worthy of being called "the year of the Linux desktop" and it makes me so happy

  • @brostoevsky22
    @brostoevsky22 6 месяцев назад +6

    I agree! Plasma has surpassed Gnome by a country mile. I'm excited to see where Cosmic DE goes and how it competes with Gnome. In the future I see Linux DEs competing with each other instead of Windows and MacOS, which will only speed up the exponential growth of Linux for daily users. My overall experience since 2020 has improved drastically.

  • @avalagum7957
    @avalagum7957 6 месяцев назад +35

    Yeah, plasma is for people who don't have time/energy to tinker. I'm using it now. Although there are a few things I don't like much, I just ignore them. Plasma is still much better than Windows in memory usage: 1.7GB vs 5GB on a 16GB machine. The 3.3GB difference is enough to run IntelliJ.

    • @manadecide
      @manadecide 6 месяцев назад +4

      I found myself having to waste time tinkering around with kde rather than gnome.

    • @nikkehtine
      @nikkehtine 5 месяцев назад +1

      KDE is basically the tinkerer's haven as nearly everything is modular and customizable, so I have no idea where that sentiment in the first sentence could come from. Gnome is the DE for people who don't want to tinker around and prefer a working desktop from the get-go with less friction.

    • @avalagum7957
      @avalagum7957 5 месяцев назад

      @@manadecide Ah, I didn't mean gnome. I meant other things like waybar in hyprland

    • @zerokun2655
      @zerokun2655 4 месяца назад +1

      Not really. Kde is more the whatever you want option. Unlike a window manager is something like hyprland you don't NEED to tinker, but you absolutely can do so. I personally don't lose myself too much in customization. A bunch of quick settings changes and some shortcuts. I think the most I "tinkered" was downloading a Fedora SVG from the internet, changing the color to match my accent color, and replace the default fedora icon in Application Launcher to my custom colored one, that's it. (Did it with Arch as well when I had that, I like consistency)

    • @avalagum7957
      @avalagum7957 4 месяца назад

      @@zerokun2655 For me, I have to tinker more when using hyprland: not with hyprland but with waybar.

  • @Kermit2k
    @Kermit2k 6 месяцев назад +4

    Nick with the masterclass in title selection for maximum user engagement. Well played sir.

  • @Ozzymand
    @Ozzymand 6 месяцев назад +5

    I use KDE and plenty of gnome based apps. Coming from windows, just because a window looks different is the least of my worries. I want the app to work, that's it. It can look however it wants.

  • @TheLonelyMoon
    @TheLonelyMoon 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have KDE, Gnome, and Hyprland installed on my Fedora Surface Book 2. Hyprland for productivity and battery efficiency, Gnome for general use (imo very touch friendly out of the box) and KDE I'm still experimenting. Good to be able to choose

  • @alone-vf4vy
    @alone-vf4vy 6 месяцев назад +25

    I love KDE Plasma

  • @MrRefael33
    @MrRefael33 6 месяцев назад +10

    Cool, I hope it will come soon to the Steam Deck,
    now I have version 5.27

    • @livemadseason
      @livemadseason 6 месяцев назад

      6.0.5 is the latest on Bazzite-deck Stable now 🙂

    • @chaosfenix
      @chaosfenix 6 месяцев назад +2

      Valve probably just sticks to the LTS as 5.27 is the latest LTS version. We will need to wait for a newer LTS version.

  • @Chin-Hwa
    @Chin-Hwa 6 месяцев назад +4

    The irony of the implementation of the rounded corners is that the bottom corners are not rounded around 5:33. I personally don't care if the corners are rounded or not, but I would like to see the corners match.

    • @jinujonn
      @jinujonn 6 месяцев назад

      Finally, someone noticed !!

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 6 месяцев назад

      @@jinujonn I thought I was going crazy 😭

    • @idk-sy3iu
      @idk-sy3iu 6 месяцев назад

      The reason why they don't do it's because at compositor level it would be very inefficient, kwin devs talked about this many times already

  • @tadafireworks3774
    @tadafireworks3774 6 месяцев назад +4

    To see that option in the settings, you have to additionally install the krdp package. (Tested on Arch)

  • @beowolfgang
    @beowolfgang 5 месяцев назад +1

    I also switched nearly a month ago to kde 6.1(beta) on my gentoo system after using gnome since over 15 years! Also on my arch based notebook, i switched too.

  • @Kris-od3sj
    @Kris-od3sj 6 месяцев назад +4

    Barrier is unmaintained. Only the fork called Input Leap provides Wayland support (and as of now you still need a few patched packages on top of that).
    Input Leap can communicate with Barrier though

  • @Chnorzy
    @Chnorzy 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love your content as a long time linux user and always get inspiration to test new things. thank you so much for your good work and research.

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux 6 месяцев назад +2

    That's exciting! I'm looking forward to it coming to my distro!

  • @jongeduard
    @jongeduard 4 месяца назад

    I can only say that I, as an Arch Linux user mostly (I also do dual boot and virtual machines with several operating systems), have moved to actually installing and using KDE Plasma 6+ as my main desktop, after a long time Xfce (which I still apreaciate) use, and I can only say that it's the best desktop experience for me until now.
    I have been considering it for a lot longer time already, but some important issues with stability, graphics and monitor related stuff kept me away from it. Most of those issues are now solved.
    However, I also want to emphasize that all Linux desktops and window managers have their own great points. For example I have finally decided to explore Mint and Cinnamon, and I really love what they do. A bit like KDE, they have good understanding of user and what they want, you can see it back in actual usability.
    KDE is extremely good with features, details, customization. There is one thing which it is not really however, "KISS", which means to keep things really simple. But that's fine! Other desktops are better at that, which can be the best for other people. So this is really about choice and I love that.

  • @DiverseInBits
    @DiverseInBits 6 месяцев назад +2

    This guy putting the time stamp for the entire ad is so great we don’t need to waste ur time 😊🎉

  • @franklinEditor
    @franklinEditor 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gnome marks the monitor screen with permanent shadows and I've never seen anyone talking about it, the worst cause of this and against my will I had to replace it with KDE 6 plasma, and it changed my life. Simply the best.

  • @Jean-MarcCourtiade-ct8vy
    @Jean-MarcCourtiade-ct8vy 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video, I use KDE Plasma, and it is pretty (pretty) cool as you show. It's not always easy to notice all the new features, especially the subtle ones such as more rounded menus, but this is a big update, the animations are now flawless like on Gnome or MacOS. One thing though: there is an annoying bug with Wayland that makes impossible screensharing or video recording in OBS e.g. That said, no doubt that an upcoming update will fix this.

  • @rijaja
    @rijaja 6 месяцев назад +2

    I had to wait until today to update on fedora because I also have the x11 session (extra dependencies) and wow, it really is impressive. I immediately switched from the launcher to krunner on super, but I'm not sure I'll keep it since I have an autohide taskbar and now I can't just press super to see the time.
    Many thanks to the contributors, plasma is far ahead of the proprietary desktops at this points.

  • @zerokun2655
    @zerokun2655 4 месяца назад

    3:04 yeah, only issue I had: if you want to configure an element in the right side of the panel, you can't reach the menu. The panel menu pops up and if I right click something like a system tray, the configure popup appears BELOW the general panel config. So I have to move the system tray to the left, click configure and move it back. (Don't know if I explained correctly) But I don't know where to give feedback really

  • @kabatram
    @kabatram 6 месяцев назад +2

    That's really impressive, an actual innovation in desktop environment system

  • @balderm001
    @balderm001 5 месяцев назад +3

    that edit mode looks amazing

  • @TomHenryCoursow
    @TomHenryCoursow 6 месяцев назад +16

    Oh my god finally... That One Key Shortcut Support Feature is totally the best of all the changes :D
    Will try again to switch to Plasma now to somehow make a very gnome like desktop.
    In the past I had issues using the terminal way as some remote apps conflicted with the custom shortcut.
    Hope official support will get rid of that :D

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 6 месяцев назад

      I feel so spoiled for choice when picking a favorite feature!
      This actually bit me today when trying to bind a mouse button to Meta though haha. So it's definitely up there!

  • @azenyr
    @azenyr 5 месяцев назад +4

    Plasma is amazing and actually much better for new linux users than gnome or cinnamon (this one looks extremely oldschool and not attractive at all for people coming from win 11 or mac). KDE really is the best overall DE and the most complete one (FreeSync/GSync, HDR, etc). Gnome is falling back so much nowadays... the only problem now, is that distros still refuse to offer KDE by default. To get KDE you still need a nieche distro, and because of that your KDE never gets the proper polish it deserves out of the box. All main distros use GTK-based desktops by default and THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE. GTK toolkit is looking very stuck in the past recently and its very hard to recommend a good KDE-first distro for beginners...

    • @sainsay
      @sainsay 5 месяцев назад

      if the beginner is ok with running arch then EndeavourOS is one I can recommend. if the beginner is ok with running one ubuntu 22.04 then KDE Neon is the place to be. Neon will always be a bit slow on updating their ubuntu version as it is not their focus. they only stick to lts releases and usually take some time after a new lts release to switch to the next one. but you are guaranteed to get the latest KDE updates though. Endeavour follows the arch philosophy and you will always be able to update to the latest and by default they added good integration with the AUR so there are a lot of apps very well supported without you needing to set it up or add it to your personal maintaince schedule as long as you use their own tools to update.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr 5 месяцев назад +1

      @sainsay sadly I think neon is too slow on updates. Kernel gets very old and new hardware support really suffers for beginners I am now suggesting Nobara KDE or just plain Fedora KDE. If you want something ubuntu based, Tuxedo OS seems cool, since they keep KDE and the kernel always updated. I dont understand why LTS releases love to keep their kernel so freaking ancient. It really makes it difficult for beginners to try linux. I hate to buy a new laptop, bootup linux and nothing working. It's a horrendous feeling. But I like the "install and forget" and stability of big distros. So I am using Nobara KDE, seems the best for now

    • @zerokun2655
      @zerokun2655 4 месяца назад

      I think Fedora is a good option, I switched to it from arch recently and I don't find myself in the terminal a lot (at least if not specifically to code or do cli things). A regular user will not care about flatpak vs rpm and will just use discover, which works much better on fedora then it did on arch with me (also ew, graphical package manager on arch xD). The only thing is: the installer is a bit weird in the manual partitioning, wish they used something like gparted to make it friendlier, so if you need to dual boot you might need a tutorial.
      But I've been using it less than a week so I can't really say much
      Oh and also, the steam package needs to be installed using dnf, the flatpak sucks ass, tries it, was hella broken with external storage and even just downloading games would sometimes not work

  • @SlyEcho
    @SlyEcho 6 месяцев назад +5

    6:50 you need to install the krdp package, at least it adds it to the menu for me.

    • @greenphlem
      @greenphlem 6 месяцев назад

      Yup, that’s the solution

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot 6 месяцев назад +3

    KDE has been the best "decent defaults, capable customizability" DE and I hope it stays that way. I really dont want them bowing down to the "we know better than the user" mentality.
    I was afraid of that when they made icon only the default but they've kept the window title text option so far, so hopefully they will continue to support these features and not go down the gnome path of actively being hostile to user opinions though Im not saying I think theyve done anything to indicate they will.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 5 месяцев назад

    I've been out of the Linux ecosystem for years now, but this video just popped back into my feed here, and this KDE Plasma 6.1 update just singlehandedly made me decide, if I ever switch back to Linux, I'm trying out KDE Plasma first, not Gnome.
    KDE always had the most configuration options in the GUI, but it always seemed off no matter how long I spent trying to configure it. I could never really pinpoint why. So in the past, I would just go with Gnome as a base first, and then when I have a complaint, I would read online discussions or Q/A websites and copy and paste commands into the terminal.

  • @alexb8969
    @alexb8969 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the video. Very good ideas for improving the desktop edit mode. You should open a bug report to KDE with these.

  • @w01dnick
    @w01dnick 5 месяцев назад

    8:00 still think default barrier for 100px is too much. Reduced it to 25px so it is feeled when slowly moving but doesn't annoy me when I fastly move from one screen to another.

  • @blackchristiangeek
    @blackchristiangeek 5 месяцев назад

    Thank God for you brother. I've been missing you (dern RUclips algorithm 😅), I like learning and you have shared a lot. Can't wait to try some of these new tricks and settings. I recently ventured back to X11 yet again for lack of features and functionality in Wayland. Again, thanks,

  • @kubuntukowalski
    @kubuntukowalski 6 месяцев назад

    same, i only use kde for my main and gaming desktops/laptops but i do love cinnamon and xfce for just web browsing or basic computing pcs.

  • @TroubleDog54
    @TroubleDog54 5 месяцев назад

    Very informative, thanks Nick! I think I've just found my new favourite DE.

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 6 месяцев назад +6

    Which distros get the latest kernel updates? I only know of Arch, Tumbleweed and some other rolling release ones.

    • @alexb8969
      @alexb8969 6 месяцев назад +5

      Fedora

    • @magnificoas388
      @magnificoas388 6 месяцев назад +2

      NixOS

    • @StaffyDoo
      @StaffyDoo 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, as ​@@magnificoas388 says; 6.9.4 powering my flake here.

  • @easterlingderek34
    @easterlingderek34 6 месяцев назад

    I think the command bar being on top of the wallpaper if fine so long as it stays out of the way. I actually did a top bar and made it stay hidden and every time I went into edit mode the top taskbar that is set to auto hide will cover the command bar. So if putting a Taskbar on top of screen and not over the actual desktop is how it works then with the command bar being stuck to the desktop will mean you can still get access to it even if you have Auto hide turned on.

  • @DarkcoffeeGodot
    @DarkcoffeeGodot 6 месяцев назад +1

    Since Plasma 6, It's my favourite. Bar none. It's so good, beautiful... Can't even consider going back to Gnome.

  • @ElHyperion
    @ElHyperion 4 месяца назад +1

    Plasma 6 in my experience is much less stable than 5. It's my first time on Wayland too so I'm not sure if it's caused by that or Plasma, but it happens very frequently that when I'm editing widgets on my panels, the edit UI just hangs for a while and the whole Plasma session restarts. Also, when switching between different monitor setups (at home vs docking station at work), Plasma ALWAYS mixes up what panels and wallpapers should show on what monitors and I have to redo it manually every time I change my workplaces. I always heard Plasma does this better than Windows but it's the other way around for me. Also it makes pamac crash quite often during updates than before on Plasma 5 with X11. I'm on Manjaro KDE stable if that matters.

  • @rayjaymor8754
    @rayjaymor8754 6 месяцев назад +14

    Downloading it now as we speak!

  • @theroboman727
    @theroboman727 6 месяцев назад +3

    I'm really excited for explicit sync. Multiple games that I want to play are unplayable on wayland and I've been staying on the x11 version of plasma because of only that.

  • @Dr-CthulhuOfRlyeh
    @Dr-CthulhuOfRlyeh 6 месяцев назад +1

    Edge barrier is what I am excited for, I know it's stupidly small but as a dual monitor user it's needed badly.
    No password on monitor sleep is neat also, I may try that.
    Otherwise I have been happy with Plasma as a whole.

  • @wildw1ng
    @wildw1ng 6 месяцев назад +4

    So does barrier work with wayland correctly now?

  • @Ironpants57
    @Ironpants57 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh my god.. The new edit mode in plasma looks so cool and clean!!

  • @だん氏
    @だん氏 4 месяца назад

    More than super customizable for both small and large monitors. Looking forward to the performance of Wayland + KDE later on ubuntu 24.10, though mainly for NVIDIA.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I would like KDE shortcuts to have is the ability to set one key combo for multiple different commands. like I want to send a window to a desktop AND move there, I can't do that currently to my knowledge. maybe the warning popup can have an extra button that says "allow" to say "yes I want to have multiple commands per shortcut" and then keep the replace and cancel buttons.

    • @DanielQRT
      @DanielQRT 6 месяцев назад

      isn't this available as "move window to next screen"?

  • @matheuswohl
    @matheuswohl 5 месяцев назад +1

    6:52 for the remote desktop settings to appear you apparently have to install kdrp manually. At least that solved it for me on fedora

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB 5 месяцев назад

    I am enjoying the tweaks that 6.1 brings, all-n-all. For me Windows placement (to remember) is still on the list, for now end up creating Windows Management rules to save their sizes and placements when opened newly (center is not always the best option).

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 6 месяцев назад +2

    Holy shit the edit mode alone is worth it. It was such a confusing pain in the ass to accidentally enter edit mode and then struggling to close it and change things along the way

  • @furuthebat
    @furuthebat 6 месяцев назад +4

    I'm waiting for nv driver 555 :( ... with the new KDE6 + wayland, a lot of my applications are flickering :/

    • @jamesarthur6751
      @jamesarthur6751 6 месяцев назад

      I swapped to the NVIDIA beta drivers and it solved all my issues!

  • @Star_Wars_Galaxy
    @Star_Wars_Galaxy 5 месяцев назад

    Idk if this is normal for rounded corners, but are only the top corners of the windows rounded? At the very least, Dolphin only has the top corners rounded at 5:40, unless youtube compression is doing something wacky

  • @John7No
    @John7No 6 месяцев назад +3

    Since KDE6 I have lost the ability to open files with vlc/mpv from a NAS share.
    I tried with a TuxedoOS fresh install , no go there as well. Not sure what is going on but this is a major issue

  • @Ud4cznik
    @Ud4cznik 6 месяцев назад +3

    When will it go stable? It's now in Extra-Testing arch repo.

    • @DunhamLockhart
      @DunhamLockhart 6 месяцев назад

      That's up to the arch maintainers to decide, but generally in a week or so

  • @armagedon515
    @armagedon515 6 месяцев назад +2

    I agree. After hopping distro to distro, Plasma is the most beautiful DE for Linux as well the most configurable. I am using Kubuntu with a Windows 11 "theme" and with transparency it look better then Microsoft. Plasma is nice from the box but it is when you slap some easily accessible themes that it look gorgeous. Now, not sure if the current plasma 5 themes are compatibles with versions 6 ?

  • @Temet79
    @Temet79 6 месяцев назад +1

    Got the update on Arch, you need to install krdp to get the remote session option in the settings.

  • @KORUPTable
    @KORUPTable 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank god I can finally use Input Leap on wayland now (Input Leap is Barrier's successor it's forked off of it and is updated)

  • @ImJustCW
    @ImJustCW 6 месяцев назад +54

    Let me sleep... its 6 am here.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  6 месяцев назад +53

      Hahah WATCH MY VIDEOS

    • @DFGdanger
      @DFGdanger 6 месяцев назад +27

      Evil French Sleep Thief isn't real, he can't hurt you

    • @klauserwin9860
      @klauserwin9860 6 месяцев назад +7

      Nic is the Sleep Paralysis Demon for the US.

  • @berneymark
    @berneymark 3 месяца назад

    Oh my god I might actually try it again now. I could never stay on it long because it always, always, always felt inconsistent no matter what I did. Maybe these rounded corners will make me feel better on KDE.

  • @maxmouse3
    @maxmouse3 5 месяцев назад

    I'm a gnome user but man this 6.1 release seems very polished. I might give this a go! Great video

  • @isoperimetrix
    @isoperimetrix 6 месяцев назад

    Sounds like a lot of great improvements. When I had it in a VM w/ Wayland the UI was really slow and I liked X11 better.

  • @snooks5607
    @snooks5607 5 месяцев назад

    6:56 haven't tried plasma yet but guessing maybe you needed rdesktop to be installed for rdp settings to show up?

  • @voinea12
    @voinea12 6 месяцев назад +3

    in my humble, objective, undeniable opinion

  • @fertxo
    @fertxo 6 месяцев назад +1

    For remote desktop install krdp package. It will appear in settings then

  • @raddinox2707
    @raddinox2707 5 месяцев назад +1

    OMG! Barrier support on wayland! I can't wait to try this on my dusty old Arch install.. because Debian is more stable and I like stable 😎

    • @raddinox2707
      @raddinox2707 5 месяцев назад

      EDIT: Installing input-leap-inputcapture from AUR is working, but not fine.. it's working but when I drag the mouse back to the main (running Arch) the pointer will be in the top left corner even though it's suppose to come in from the right side. Client is running Debian Stable, Xorg and Barrier.

  • @hs-youtube8761
    @hs-youtube8761 6 месяцев назад +2

    The middle part sound is very sharp

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Linux Experiment: one of the BEST LINUX RUclips channels (in my opinion)

  • @CyborgZeta
    @CyborgZeta 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm glad they're making progress, but I'm content staying on Plasma 5.27 in Kubuntu 24.04 right now.

  • @GoldDeniel
    @GoldDeniel 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rounded corners are major for me. I like that it's kind of unified now.

  • @PSXman9
    @PSXman9 6 месяцев назад +4

    still getting non stop black screens > logout followed by plasmashell has crashed with the latest beta driver from nvidia. :(

    • @fabianroscher
      @fabianroscher 6 месяцев назад

      Did you set the nvidia_drm.modeset kernel setting? if you don't that pretty much describes your behaviour on NVIDIA with Wayland.

  • @LowBudgetLinuxGaming
    @LowBudgetLinuxGaming 6 месяцев назад +6

    KDE Plasma always looks so cool and desirable when I see it in videos. But when I try it out myself it just doesn't feel right, something is missing. Still a very cool project.

    • @sdfhushbguejsd
      @sdfhushbguejsd 6 месяцев назад

      Maybe you should get a higher budget monitor. VGA CRT is becoming quite old

    • @LowBudgetLinuxGaming
      @LowBudgetLinuxGaming 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@sdfhushbguejsd Sorry, but I can't. Low budget for life 📺

  • @haplozetetic9519
    @haplozetetic9519 6 месяцев назад +1

    It has been possible in the past to add a middle click on the desktop for edit mode. It should still be possible.

  • @thedarb
    @thedarb 6 месяцев назад +3

    You need to install the krdp package for RDP to show up.

  • @jvapr27
    @jvapr27 6 месяцев назад

    I think there a fewer KDE applications as they encourage adding features to existing applications rather than forking and creating dozens of small apps. I think this is part of what leads to the advance software that KDE applications are vs the simple small apps that Gnome uses.
    Depending on what I am doing, I rather have fewer apps with more features than dozens of small apps.
    One downside of a large app, is the space necessary which is not a big deal these days as storage is cheap, but also there are more potential points of failure.
    One downside of small apps, is that they do not always work well together, and this leads to having issues with different apps that are more difficult to track down.
    Pros and cons to each

    • @stephanhuebner4931
      @stephanhuebner4931 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think the approach with smaller apps doing one thing only works well only for the terminal. We see what happens when we have monster-apps that have horrifically cryptic command-structures that just about nobody can ever hope to remember. But the same principle means a huge waste of resources in a GUI where you then need several windows to do a few simple tasks. Plus, what you mentioned, it's relatively easy to chain terminal apps together, but on the desktop, you have to be really lucky to find something equivalent.

  • @moshadj
    @moshadj 5 месяцев назад

    It's such a tiny change but the ability to set a custom Meta-only modifier in shortcut settings really shows the attention to detail

  • @iopqu
    @iopqu 6 месяцев назад

    Hint: if you turn the volume all the way up you can hear some music in the background

  • @Torviticus
    @Torviticus 6 месяцев назад

    They deserve the best desktop environment for the hide mouse option alone. I'll have to test it but if it isn't affected by controller activity it'll be a godsend for gaming. It annoys me so much seeing the cursor in the corner of the screen when I'm gaming.

  • @Alexander_Sannikov
    @Alexander_Sannikov 6 месяцев назад

    does anybody have blur on transparent windows in kde6? there's options for that, but they do seemingly nothing, and no videos of kde6 contain any blur.
    by blur i mean windows7-style blur in the window header, the start menu, etc.

  • @michadybczak4862
    @michadybczak4862 6 месяцев назад +4

    Yay, finally rounded corners! In my opinion, those are still too small, but still better than nothing. I was using other themes to do that in older Plasma versions, but with Plasma 6, they were too buggy, so I switched to default Breeze, which is too "edgy". I also love the "shake cursor" feature. I was "loosing" cursor too often and did shake it automatically. I'm happy to see that it's not just me going into violent shaking mode with frustration...

  • @snooks5607
    @snooks5607 5 месяцев назад

    8:58 scaling up a bitmap is going to get either pixely or blurry no ways around it (except maybe some AI generative scaling), got to have vector graphics for smooth scaling

  • @Arvigeus
    @Arvigeus 6 месяцев назад +5

    I agree on your edit mode suggestions. Hope someone is watching.

  • @KvaGram
    @KvaGram 6 месяцев назад +2

    Will plasma 6 come with the next release of kubuntu?

    • @DCM777.
      @DCM777. 6 месяцев назад +4

      24.10

  • @petar0402
    @petar0402 6 месяцев назад +1

    @TheLinuxEXP 6:55 - you're probably missing krdp package 😉