I just bought yesterday the IS350 F2 after I consulted and viewed a lot of documentation, RUclips videos for many, many hours. Finally and of course I tested: Acura TLX, Genesys G70, Kia Stinger, Subaru Legacy GT Premier, Audi A5 (and I will see also the S60 (T5 and T6) even if I already purchased the Lexus). I'm in Canada. I want to mention that there is a lot of disinformation on the Internet or influencer that are not prepared for the real presentations and knowledge. It is not the case with the Motormouth channel - for this particular review it was very easy for me to have quick and direct information from Legacy Canada site, so maybe more details not found on the site would be welcomed. Comparing with: - Genesys G70 - I'm 6.3 feet (189cm) tall and it is so small and once I'm in the driver position, nobody can go and sit in the back - shame! I just not continued to test it, because not interested at all. The next level G80 - well above my budget. - Acura TLX (The A Spec or the Elite Trim) - it has smaller space than IS in the back, the audio system is very good, the control for the display is a shame and the same thing for the Turbo lag - I cannot stand it - it is so bad done and the 10 speed are too, too much. The interior looks good, it is fool loaded and stay very good (but not the best) on the road. For me it was a deception with the engine. Honda is quicker and muscular than this one (!). - Kia Stinger - very good also looking car, also full loaded (even more than Acura). The power is more, but not feels like a 365HP bi turbo, it feels a little less. It has a good handling but it shakes after a thigh turn at higher speed. The feeling of the interior with all the bels and whistles feels..cheap, even with all the leather. The same impression for 3 people involved in the test of the car. Something else to consider: the knowledge and the quality of agents has to be changed if Kia wants to go in the good direction - very personal opinion of mine. Still, some turbo lag. Subaru Legacy GT Premier - what a wonderful surprise: I'm not at all a fan of the CVT, but it works well (well, not at any engine speeds). It was the last in my list (not being considered an entry-level luxury car) - but I like the interior and the quality, even more than Acura - not to mention the interior space - more than all the other. The handling was very, vey good and for me better than for Stinger. I'm sure than in snow will also be better. The turbo lag far better than on Acura. - A5 - enough space for me, vey fine interior, almost exceptional handling. The 260HP engine feels more powerful than the same power from Acura or Subaru and the smallest turbo lag. It is not for the Canadian roads - or maybe for younger audience that can stand to feel every inch of the road, every small or big hole. I felt my knees and my kidneys - 50 years old in good shape and with some extensive experience. It was the only but very important issue that prevented me to consider it. Other than this, hat down. I choose IS350 - despite the 6 speeds, despite missing some bells and whistles (no HUD, no heated seats in the back (in all the trims), no wireless charger and no real leather (but exceptional seats). The new touch screen that works well also with the trackpad, will satisfy, I think both worlds - people that love or hate one system or another. The handling experience and the engine was all I wanted more than the rest. Me, my son (23 - and Charger V8 owner) and my wife where instantly in love with the car. Even if some people will say that is aging, I didn't like the turbo lag in all the other cars. People speak the better torque for the turbo cars - but where it is ? - i didn't feel fil it this 260+ HP league I tested (Audi A5 was an exception - and is the best in the L/KM). Even the IS300 at 260 HP was better than the rest, for us. In Canada I didn't want to pay for the F3 package that come with the Adaptive Suspension, it will add 4600 to your invoice and you will need it in mountain areas or excesive speeds. It is my honest opinion, the tastes of the people are different - but I hope will not have a future where all the full loaded cars will be more appreciated than the ones that offers you the best drive experience for your money. I'm an IT guy, true agnostic when buying a car - looking to the car, not to the brand. I first tested the Acura TLX, coming from the Honda V6 Touring 2017 - it went from the top of the list to the last. It's important how you feel in the car and how it takes the road. If you want to go just straight, take the Kia Stinger, if you want the full experience, go to Lexus. Some compare it with the V6 or even V6 from competition (BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc). I compare the best car for my budget, not with something that will cost me 30-50 % or more. Update (2021-04-07): I tested also the T5 and the T6 from Volvo S60. The T5 is weak and the T6 OK. The T6 with Polestar Optimization (will cost you around 1.4k) will make a good deal. Still love the handling of the Lexus, so for me it is the real deal.
I think they’ve done enough. People are spoil brats! The interior of this car is perfectly fine. Plus this model has a great loyal fan base that will continue to buy this car!
I just got one of the first sold around here.2021 IS 350 FSPORT AWD in Caviar with black int and handling package,loving the look and the style as i traded my 2016 IS 350 AWD. The new car has just added enough touches that I like fully loaded with just about every option I could get.Do I wish they had done something to add to the horsepower? Yes at least tune in to get a little more out of it but its a tried and true reliable engine thats bulletproof and sorry but im just not digging the style on the acura the cars they make just dont do it for me now.I owned an RSX years ago and that was a really fun car to drive with a manual.The IS is more like sport.luxury combo which is what I want than like BMWs which is more hardened sport style.The Mark Levinson radio doesnt have really many factory radios that can compare to ,its one of my favorite features on the car
I tried the TLX and the turbo lag is ...BIG. I had to think 2-3 seconds before to perform overtaking cars on highway. Even my wife that doesn't see in the most cases the differences, was totally disappointed - and we tested Acura before all other cars (see my opinion as for 2021-04-04), because we were convinced from the reviews that this will be our car. Landed on IS350. If you need it only into a speed progression and not for the power when you need it, Acura will be OK. The 10 speed are also shifting a lot to much. 7 or 8 were perfect.
The design is outdated to car reviewers and current owners . For someone like me who never own or driven a Lexus, everything about the Lexus is fresh to me. I would still get a Lexus.
I had an Acura tl and a TSX, and currently driving a '14 lexus is 350. I'll never go back to Acura. The lexus is just an overall better built more reliable vehicle. I'm not sure how I feel about the 2021 update of the IS but maybe I'll grow on me 🤷🏾♂️
I think both IS and TLX are both nice cars. The center counsel looks a little weird to me in the TLX. However, I prefer the gauge cluster in the TLX. Overall I prefer the TLX because of its overall presence.
Toyota is investing in hybrid and electric now so I think they look at the engine that still runs in old cars quite well and are reluctant to start a new engine line. They might be riding the tech out until they switch them over.
With reliability nearly equal for both Acura (SH-AWD) & Lexus (AWD), it comes down to aesthetics and ergonomics; in which case the newer TLX gets the nod.
@Hugh MacIsaac Lexus is quality, and this drivetrain is probably #1 in reliability in the auto industry. I have an 11 GS AWD and I think it gets more reliable and better with age :lol:. Now, it is dated. AWD system is 30 years old. There is very little written on it, but it is overengineered and heavy duty. Powertrain is from 2005. Six speed is durable enough for a Tundra! Same part.
@Hugh M. certain models have issues. but tlx is a really reliable car... scotty kilmer even recommended the tlx for a luxury sedan and the lexus ES for luxury. this is a brand new one so who knows?
I really like the look of the IS and the touch screen is better than any track pad or mouse. I’m Ok with the size of the IS, most cars are getting too big in my opinion. The more modern engine in the TLX makes this a really difficult choice. All said and done, probably choose the IS for the infotainment system, the two cars are that close.
@@natnut2008 depends what you want. A turbo6 might be more maintenance, but if it’s built right it’ll perform much better and get better mileage. The drivetrain in these Lexus products was quite dated 5 years ago when I bought my car (335i). Now they aren’t even remotely competitive. My wife’s Lexus had this same engine it’s very blah. A turbo might require a turbo replacement every 100-120k. Then again it might not.
@@6SpeedTA95 but a turbo 6 from BMW is significantly more expensive right? To get similar price to the Lexus IS350 , you have to downgrade to a turbo 4 engine in the BMW. Lexus only problem is that they have no IS500 which would be a like for like match for the M340i in terms of hp and price.
I own a 2018 fsport and I can tell you it's amazing. Great on the winter, engine is butter smooth and interior is comfy and seats are best I test drove. It looks better than the Acura hands down and it has such a great stance. Downfall is its thirsty but 80km so far and hasn't spent a day in the shop typical lexus perfection
everything you said is spot on! I always tell people yes there are better looking cars than Lexus but are they really reliable, and the resale value on most Lexus's are hands down one of the best in the industry.
I've owned IS300 Luxury 2021 for a month now. Do you really think the back looks good? (I liked the old IS rear lights, that classy diamond-looking shape. Glad you think so, I don't like back that much : )
actually, lexus been having outdated interior for really long time. acura haven’t been doing good until recently so if you want a reliable luxury car, you pretty much only have one choice
Will always choose the Lexus over the Acura or any luxury nickel and dime vehicles, ehem EU cars. Proven comfort and reliability through the years, and a legit high resell value. You get more for what you pay for in the long run.
Glad to see the review is up! Agree across the board, the IS drives much better than the TLX. You can really feel how flat the vehicle drives on turns - better tire contact. Feels much more rigid as well. I found the TLX to feel a bit “springy” even in sport mode. The turbo lag in the TLX is very noticeable as well. The advantage of natural aspirated engines is a smooth power band. If you’re looking for a fairly fun but luxurious car to drive to for the IS. If you want all the modern gadgets/aesthetics (interior wise) go for the TLX. Let’s see what the Type S brings and hopefully the IS 500!
The answer to your question, I just brought a TLX A-Spec and love it. In terms of running forever, I've driven Honda/Acura for 40 years and never took one in for mechanical issues, just oil changes.
I’m looking into getting the same car as you, and was wondering if you have any thoughts about the seat material? Through videos, I find that the wrinkles are incredibly noticeable... especially the red interior
it's Lexus! they are at a place where on some vehicles they can put in half the effort.and get the same results. Either way 250,000 miles later this car will still be rolling strong. while the competitions will have bitten the dust. that being said they should update the interior and engines.
I have an 11GS AWD. The IS was a shortened GS. They still have the same 3.5L w/six speed. It is an extremely reliable combo but it is the same thing from 2006! I think mine has 306 HP, this has 311 :lol:
When you mentioned the starting price of the 3 Series, I thought, damn, since when did the 3 Series get to 5 Series prices? And then I remembered you’re in Canada. 🤦🏻♂️
Hey u 2 !! U 2 play off of each other really well- Keep pumping out the content -Congrats!! IMO the new G70 is an EXCELLEBT VALUE, quick, AWD and has OK tech. Luv the ride and the sportiness is really high. All the BEST Merry Christmas:-)
Really disappointed with this facelift. I was thinking to get the IS350 F sport 3 (top trim) because of the unique headlight, but when I looked at the feature of the package, there's no Mark Levinson. That's on the F sport 3 package in the 2020 model.
Drove the TLX Type-S. Sporty, quick and airy cabin, but coming from an existing 2015 TLS SH-AWD V6 Tech pkg the interior feels cheaper. We test drove Audi S4, nice interior, nice tech gadgets, very fast, but it’s quite pricey. We drove the G70 3.3T, and that was an awesome interior, nice tech, a quick car as well. With the S4 and the G70, worry about the long term ownership since we plan to keep this car for at least 8 yrs. We drove the IS 350 AWD F Sport 3, and while it didn’t feel as quick as the others, it felt the most luxurious (those seats are amazing). I didn’t realize the IS 300 AWD is the V6, and supposedly less HP than the 350 V6, but 0-60 test reviews have them at the same time. My best friend’s wife has it, it feels a bit quicker than my wife’s current TLX. So we’ll save the $6K difference from the 350 AWD F Sport 3, and get the 300 AWD with Luxury pkg which gives us everything but the AVS dynamic suspension and some darker accents.
If the platform is proven (and paid for), I think that this Lexus should have used taken advantage of the Estate (sport wagon) market... especially with their AWD and reliability. Entry level estates have worked worked for the C-class, the 3-series and that Audi. I believe that this alone would have made this ‘refresh’ standout and bring new customers into their dealerships. Thanks for the video.
Toyota/Lexus built a brand new test track in Shimoyama, Japan that is like a mini Nürburgring and this facelifted IS was the first of many other coming new models to get tested on it... turbo 6 coming next gen, rumors is that Lexus would be using new Mazda 6 RWD platform that's if they switch the Mazda 6 to RWD and due to the partnership between Toyota and Mazda
A couple of pro’s for the IS vs the TLX: The IS can be had in RWD w/an LSD. The IS’s use of old engines is classic Toyota; it make for better reliability and easier/cheaper repairs.
I like Lexus for being a premium, reliable car with some style. But this "new" IS is just sad. There are just too many great competitors in this class that are far superior to this car. Almost bottom of the barrel honestly.
I'm so happy we have Na option, exterior still looks fresh and better looking then the Acura. Inside fit and finish is amazing but the center stand they could have done more with
@@LiamG903 I agree. While the engine isn't exciting, it's reliable. And you're right; the interior is the part that lets this car down. Outside looks sharp, imo.
Id get the lexus. I prefer the smaller shape. The newer cars are all getting bigger and bigger. For example the new 3 series is almost the same size as a 5 series from a few generations ago. The IS is one of the few cars that are true to its roots - but perhaps a bit too faithful. Lol
14:05 'yes I think this is enough', and if it is not for those, they have ES to move. Every submodel is designed to keep the right audience. Otherwise there will be no difference between IS & ES or Series 3 & Series 4/5, A3 & A4 etc.
IS350 > TLX all day long. FWD is boring and way less fun to drive. Double wishbone suspension on the Lexus is also superior to the Mcpherson setup on the Acura. Disappointed the IS didn't get any more power but it's still better than the TLX...
Great video was waiting for long :) being a big Lexus fan they didn't do enough on this I mean come on a V4 Camry has 8 speed now :) and they yet carried over 6 speeds in it. I would wait or get a ES F Sport with 8 speed
Aside from the badge, I just don't get the appeal of a luxury vs non luxury vehicle nowadays. Materials, safety, comfort are almost all the same. I would rather just get the fully loaded Mazda3 (or a EV) and save some money on regular gas and the price.
The Toyota V6 is a beast and totally indestructible. I'd take this over 2 tlxs . Ever lost a complete motor to a timing belt? I have and I'll take Toyota's chain drive indestructible engines all day long. Mark Levinson stereos are worth every penny.
Ummm what’s with all these gripes about a damn screen? You’re supposed to be driving with your eyes on the ROAD. Plus, many of the functions are voice-activated anyway so how how much do you look at the screen? 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Great, enjoyable review. This is from a big Lexus fan, although I never owned one. However, this model is not a real new development, it is a disappointment. However, still much more up-to-date than the LX570, which desperately needs a new model, since it hails from 2008!
Great fun, guys! With better handling you do get a stiffer ride, and get to brag about that bulge you feel down your right leg! Still, without a more powerful thrust, this current IS350 owner is heading down to Genesis for a more satisfying push that puts a smile on my face every time I squeeze the go petal.
This video helped me with my IS350 purchase! Very informative. Took the TLX for a test drive, but just couldn’t stand the interior design, especially the push button gear selector.
As usual great review Zack. I'm thinking about getting the IS350 AWD and want to know if you think its worth paying 5k more for adaptive suspension and lighter wheels. Its going to be a daily drive in GTA. I do like the occasional spirited drive but nothing that will get my license suspended. And for that purpose, is it a better option than a 3 series?
@@Motormouth... unfortunately the m340i comes to about 70k msrp. I’m comparing the is350 to the 330i. The fsport2 is350 comes to about 53 and the fsport3 at about 58k. Fsport3 gives me adaptive dampers and triple beam headlights. The other stuff is cosmetic. Is it worth spending 5k for the suspension and triple beam? And is the is350 a better daily than the 330?
If you want a small sedan with a luxury V6 it's a narrow list...direct Inject and port injection so no carbon build up to worry about. Yes, there are actually two injectors for each cylinder - the top one is a standard port fuel injector, while the bottom one injects fuel directly into the combustion chamber.
I’m a bit of a Toyota fanboy, and I love the way this looks on the outside. But the fuel economy on this is total garbage. There are big crossovers that do better.
Bulge ? That's funny ! I drive a 2017 IS300 AWD and never noticed it. Lexus has not done enough for me to upgrade. Consider the sales numbers of the last few years in North America , I can understand their decision. I will certainly go and test drive the new TLX. Who knows ? I may trade the IS for TLX.
Would you guys swop C class Merc with the IS? I'm on my 4th C class and bored with Merc. I've done the BMW 3 and 5 series before the Merc stage. AUDI in South Africa is more common than a New York yellow taxi, so it's not even an option for me. We not getting the Acura here, only Honda Civic. Marry Christmas and a wild 2021
I feel for handling the BMW is just great and reliability goes to the Lexus. I love Audi products but I can understand if they are a dime a dozen you may not be interested in getting one in South Africa. Wishing you a wonderful 2021, may we all get back on track sooner than later.
I traded in a 2018 IS 350 F Sport for a 2020 BMW X2 M35i earlier this year not because the Lexus was a particularly bad car but because I was just tired of it. I really am intrigued, though, by the Lexus LC 500, though, and that might be my next car. It has a NA V8 and that's the last of dying breed. What a looker, too, that LC is. You should review the LC 500 if you're able to get your hands on one.
Redundant but I'll go for this vs the competitors. Tried and true engineering. And trust me there's a reason why you call gimmicks gimmicks. The inclusion of apple car play / auto pretty much sums it up for a everyday peace of mind urban driver.
I dont get it! why is the IS being compared to TLX? i know for sure the IS is considered compact sedan and the TLX is a midsize sedan. The lexus GS is the one that competes with TLX but sad to say it was discontinued. The Lexus will always win with reliability. Acura will always win with speed and performance.
I just bought yesterday the IS350 F2 after I consulted and viewed a lot of documentation, RUclips videos for many, many hours. Finally and of course I tested: Acura TLX, Genesys G70, Kia Stinger, Subaru Legacy GT Premier, Audi A5 (and I will see also the S60 (T5 and T6) even if I already purchased the Lexus). I'm in Canada. I want to mention that there is a lot of disinformation on the Internet or influencer that are not prepared for the real presentations and knowledge.
It is not the case with the Motormouth channel - for this particular review it was very easy for me to have quick and direct information from Legacy Canada site, so maybe more details not found on the site would be welcomed.
Comparing with:
- Genesys G70 - I'm 6.3 feet (189cm) tall and it is so small and once I'm in the driver position, nobody can go and sit in the back - shame! I just not continued to test it, because not interested at all. The next level G80 - well above my budget.
- Acura TLX (The A Spec or the Elite Trim) - it has smaller space than IS in the back, the audio system is very good, the control for the display is a shame and the same thing for the Turbo lag - I cannot stand it - it is so bad done and the 10 speed are too, too much. The interior looks good, it is fool loaded and stay very good (but not the best) on the road. For me it was a deception with the engine. Honda is quicker and muscular than this one (!).
- Kia Stinger - very good also looking car, also full loaded (even more than Acura). The power is more, but not feels like a 365HP bi turbo, it feels a little less. It has a good handling but it shakes after a thigh turn at higher speed. The feeling of the interior with all the bels and whistles feels..cheap, even with all the leather. The same impression for 3 people involved in the test of the car. Something else to consider: the knowledge and the quality of agents has to be changed if Kia wants to go in the good direction - very personal opinion of mine. Still, some turbo lag.
Subaru Legacy GT Premier - what a wonderful surprise: I'm not at all a fan of the CVT, but it works well (well, not at any engine speeds). It was the last in my list (not being considered an entry-level luxury car) - but I like the interior and the quality, even more than Acura - not to mention the interior space - more than all the other. The handling was very, vey good and for me better than for Stinger.
I'm sure than in snow will also be better. The turbo lag far better than on Acura.
- A5 - enough space for me, vey fine interior, almost exceptional handling. The 260HP engine feels more powerful than the same power from Acura or Subaru and the smallest turbo lag. It is not for the Canadian roads - or maybe for younger audience that can stand to feel every inch of the road, every small or big hole. I felt my knees and my kidneys - 50 years old in good shape and with some extensive experience. It was the only but very important issue that prevented me to consider it. Other than this, hat down.
I choose IS350 - despite the 6 speeds, despite missing some bells and whistles (no HUD, no heated seats in the back (in all the trims), no wireless charger and no real leather (but exceptional seats). The new touch screen that works well also with the trackpad, will satisfy, I think both worlds - people that love or hate one system or another.
The handling experience and the engine was all I wanted more than the rest. Me, my son (23 - and Charger V8 owner) and my wife where instantly in love with the car. Even if some people will say that is aging, I didn't like the turbo lag in all the other cars. People speak the better torque for the turbo cars - but where it is ? - i didn't feel fil it this 260+ HP league I tested (Audi A5 was an exception - and is the best in the L/KM). Even the IS300 at 260 HP was better than the rest, for us.
In Canada I didn't want to pay for the F3 package that come with the Adaptive Suspension, it will add 4600 to your invoice and you will need it in mountain areas or excesive speeds.
It is my honest opinion, the tastes of the people are different - but I hope will not have a future where all the full loaded cars will be more appreciated than the ones that offers you the best drive experience for your money. I'm an IT guy, true agnostic when buying a car - looking to the car, not to the brand. I first tested the Acura TLX, coming from the Honda V6 Touring 2017 - it went from the top of the list to the last. It's important how you feel in the car and how it takes the road. If you want to go just straight, take the Kia Stinger, if you want the full experience, go to Lexus.
Some compare it with the V6 or even V6 from competition (BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc). I compare the best car for my budget, not with something that will cost me 30-50 % or more.
Update (2021-04-07): I tested also the T5 and the T6 from Volvo S60. The T5 is weak and the T6 OK. The T6 with Polestar Optimization (will cost you around 1.4k) will make a good deal. Still love the handling of the Lexus, so for me it is the real deal.
Very well explained, it pushed me further towards getting a Lexus, thanks!
I love that red color. I own a 2020 black. Looks gorgeous, handles like a dream. I’ve been a Lexus owner since 2014. The best brand I’ve owned
This is by far the most beautiful front end on any sedan on the market.
I think they’ve done enough. People are spoil brats! The interior of this car is perfectly fine. Plus this model has a great loyal fan base that will continue to buy this car!
I just got one of the first sold around here.2021 IS 350 FSPORT AWD in Caviar with black int and handling package,loving the look and the style as i traded my 2016 IS 350 AWD. The new car has just added enough touches that I like fully loaded with just about every option I could get.Do I wish they had done something to add to the horsepower? Yes at least tune in to get a little more out of it but its a tried and true reliable engine thats bulletproof and sorry but im just not digging the style on the acura the cars they make just dont do it for me now.I owned an RSX years ago and that was a really fun car to drive with a manual.The IS is more like sport.luxury combo which is what I want than like BMWs which is more hardened sport style.The Mark Levinson radio doesnt have really many factory radios that can compare to ,its one of my favorite features on the car
How are ppl spoiled brats for expecting more when ppl work hard for their $$
@@Carfan678 ok so buy what you u. If u don’t like the car buy what u want!
This is the best looking IS so far and it is definitely a beautiful car, but I would still get a TLX over it.
I tried the TLX and the turbo lag is ...BIG. I had to think 2-3 seconds before to perform overtaking cars on highway. Even my wife that doesn't see in the most cases the differences, was totally disappointed - and we tested Acura before all other cars (see my opinion as for 2021-04-04), because we were convinced from the reviews that this will be our car. Landed on IS350. If you need it only into a speed progression and not for the power when you need it, Acura will be OK. The 10 speed are also shifting a lot to much. 7 or 8 were perfect.
The design is outdated to car reviewers and current owners . For someone like me who never own or driven a Lexus, everything about the Lexus is fresh to me. I would still get a Lexus.
I would buy the Lexus over the Acura.
I had an Acura tl and a TSX, and currently driving a '14 lexus is 350. I'll never go back to Acura. The lexus is just an overall better built more reliable vehicle. I'm not sure how I feel about the 2021 update of the IS but maybe I'll grow on me 🤷🏾♂️
I bought the Lexus over the Acura.
I think both IS and TLX are both nice cars. The center counsel looks a little weird to me in the TLX. However, I prefer the gauge cluster in the TLX. Overall I prefer the TLX because of its overall presence.
IS for his handling and for driving in general.
agreed. the TLX console is awful
Drove both…easily went with Lexus IS 2021
I’m a bit obsessed with this car, looks great and the sound the V6 makes in the 350 F sport trim makes me swoon.
The IS350's engine certainly was ahead of its time back in 2006, although the same cannot be said today. Good points regarding reliability, though.
Agreed. 15 years out of that engine is pretty crazy actually!
Toyota is investing in hybrid and electric now so I think they look at the engine that still runs in old cars quite well and are reluctant to start a new engine line. They might be riding the tech out until they switch them over.
@@bcluett1697 Another auto journalist brought up a good point and Lexus figures they may not sell enough to justify the cost of a complete redesign.
@@nathanlam6613 that's how I see it as well.
@@bcluett1697 Makes sense. That engine did stand the test of time in its own way too, quite a nice motor.
Is that a ct5-v at 2:25?
Yes it is. And it's ugly as hell. Obviously IMHO and with all due respect.
With reliability nearly equal for both Acura (SH-AWD) & Lexus (AWD), it comes down to aesthetics and ergonomics; in which case the newer TLX gets the nod.
But according to this review, the Lexus handles better, has a better ride and exterior looks much better to me.
The TLX is going to be less reliable by default since it's an entirely brand new car.
@Hugh MacIsaac Lexus is quality, and this drivetrain is probably #1 in reliability in the auto industry. I have an 11 GS AWD and I think it gets more reliable and better with age :lol:. Now, it is dated. AWD system is 30 years old. There is very little written on it, but it is overengineered and heavy duty. Powertrain is from 2005. Six speed is durable enough for a Tundra! Same part.
@Hugh M. certain models have issues. but tlx is a really reliable car... scotty kilmer even recommended the tlx for a luxury sedan and the lexus ES for luxury. this is a brand new one so who knows?
I really like the look of the IS and the touch screen is better than any track pad or mouse. I’m Ok with the size of the IS, most cars are getting too big in my opinion. The more modern engine in the TLX makes this a really difficult choice. All said and done, probably choose the IS for the infotainment system, the two cars are that close.
6 speed auto? What is this, 2010?
Although there are technologically more competitive options out there, still a good "safe" option! Great review as always!
Another awesome car review! Thanks, Andrea & Zack!
Great review. I think the car looks best from behind. The new tail lights look really nice!
That's my favourite part of the car as well. Thanks for watching!
NA V6 will be easier to maintain and be more reliable than the turbo 4 cylinder. Also no turbo lag is a bonus.
Or you could just get a turbo6.
@@6SpeedTA95
Turbo6 will be significantly more expensive and again you run into the reliability and maintenance issues of a turbo engine.
@@natnut2008 depends what you want. A turbo6 might be more maintenance, but if it’s built right it’ll perform much better and get better mileage.
The drivetrain in these Lexus products was quite dated 5 years ago when I bought my car (335i). Now they aren’t even remotely competitive.
My wife’s Lexus had this same engine it’s very blah.
A turbo might require a turbo replacement every 100-120k. Then again it might not.
@@6SpeedTA95 but a turbo 6 from BMW is significantly more expensive right? To get similar price to the Lexus IS350 , you have to downgrade to a turbo 4 engine in the BMW. Lexus only problem is that they have no IS500 which would be a like for like match for the M340i in terms of hp and price.
LMAO at the "bulge" comment 😂
Whoever came up with that comment was a genius.
Brilliant!
I own a 2018 fsport and I can tell you it's amazing. Great on the winter, engine is butter smooth and interior is comfy and seats are best I test drove. It looks better than the Acura hands down and it has such a great stance. Downfall is its thirsty but 80km so far and hasn't spent a day in the shop typical lexus perfection
everything you said is spot on! I always tell people yes there are better looking cars than Lexus but are they really reliable, and the resale value on most Lexus's are hands down one of the best in the industry.
Acura has warmed up to me with their new redesigned TLX but Genesis is really up for grabs.
Genesis only for two passengers, not for four. Or maybe only for very small people in the 4 people format.
The 2021 Lexus IS has the best looking front, rear and side angle of any sedan you can buy.
Except for the Alfa Romeo Giulia. I’m 2020 IS owner and I love the car, but can’t beat Giulia looks in this segment.
I've owned IS300 Luxury 2021 for a month now.
Do you really think the back looks good? (I liked the old IS rear lights, that classy diamond-looking shape.
Glad you think so, I don't like back that much : )
@@truthseeker.3 I agree. The back does not look great looking at it from directly behind. The old IS is better.
@@scottscott5827 me too. But side profile and front look the part
@@milosza1384 The Alfa Romeo Giulia has a super ugly front end. Maybe the worst of any car sold today. That's a deal breaker.
Both cars are good 2021 additions to luxury with decent power and reliability
I almost shot hot coffee out of nose. You two are hilarious.
Thanks for this, glad you enjoyed it. lol!
Great little car with dated interior.
Which is a shame considering that a luxury buyer would want a nice and luxurious interior.
actually, lexus been having outdated interior for really long time. acura haven’t been doing good until recently so if you want a reliable luxury car, you pretty much only have one choice
So true. Lexus really needs to update their interior. I have a 2017 model and my friend has a 2021 model, both have pretty much identical interiors.
The CD player must remain there aniway.
Will always choose the Lexus over the Acura or any luxury nickel and dime vehicles, ehem EU cars. Proven comfort and reliability through the years, and a legit high resell value. You get more for what you pay for in the long run.
Glad to see the review is up! Agree across the board, the IS drives much better than the TLX. You can really feel how flat the vehicle drives on turns - better tire contact. Feels much more rigid as well. I found the TLX to feel a bit “springy” even in sport mode. The turbo lag in the TLX is very noticeable as well. The advantage of natural aspirated engines is a smooth power band. If you’re looking for a fairly fun but luxurious car to drive to for the IS. If you want all the modern gadgets/aesthetics (interior wise) go for the TLX. Let’s see what the Type S brings and hopefully the IS 500!
The answer to your question, I just brought a TLX A-Spec and love it. In terms of running forever, I've driven Honda/Acura for 40 years and never took one in for mechanical issues, just oil changes.
I’m looking into getting the same car as you, and was wondering if you have any thoughts about the seat material?
Through videos, I find that the wrinkles are incredibly noticeable... especially the red interior
Great video A & Z...very informative!
Thanks for watching!
DA MOST SENSUAL SPORT SEDAN IN ITS CLASS AND BEYOND
it's Lexus! they are at a place where on some vehicles they can put in half the effort.and get the same results. Either way 250,000 miles later this car will still be rolling strong. while the competitions will have bitten the dust. that being said they should update the interior and engines.
They got rid of the GS so they should have made it a bit bigger. Kinda like what Acura did with the TSX and TL = TLX.
I have an 11GS AWD. The IS was a shortened GS. They still have the same 3.5L w/six speed. It is an extremely reliable combo but it is the same thing from 2006! I think mine has 306 HP, this has 311 :lol:
For me, reliability, comfort and after sale services, Lexus all the way. 223kw is plenty for this car.
When you mentioned the starting price of the 3 Series, I thought, damn, since when did the 3 Series get to 5 Series prices? And then I remembered you’re in Canada. 🤦🏻♂️
BMW : Big Money Wasted.
Good review! Like Mrs. Mouth perspective.
Thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813 You bet!
Awesome video. Nice to see Andrea had a good laughed at one of questions. 😆👍🏻💕
As you could see, I just couldn't stop laughing!
@@andreaspencer9813 love to see you laughs Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻😆
I have a Lexus, and I LOVE LEXUS. BUUUUT that TLX is better looking than the new IS.
Hey u 2 !!
U 2 play off of each other really well- Keep pumping out the content -Congrats!!
IMO the new G70 is an EXCELLEBT VALUE, quick, AWD and has OK tech. Luv the ride and the sportiness is really high.
All the BEST
Merry Christmas:-)
Thank you very much! Merry Christmas to you as well.
This car will last 20+ years while the competition won't live as long
Great reliability!
Your reports are great. Congrats.
Thank you! :)
Waiting for the TLX type S
Really disappointed with this facelift. I was thinking to get the IS350 F sport 3 (top trim) because of the unique headlight, but when I looked at the feature of the package, there's no Mark Levinson. That's on the F sport 3 package in the 2020 model.
Drove the TLX Type-S. Sporty, quick and airy cabin, but coming from an existing 2015 TLS SH-AWD V6 Tech pkg the interior feels cheaper. We test drove Audi S4, nice interior, nice tech gadgets, very fast, but it’s quite pricey. We drove the G70 3.3T, and that was an awesome interior, nice tech, a quick car as well. With the S4 and the G70, worry about the long term ownership since we plan to keep this car for at least 8 yrs. We drove the IS 350 AWD F Sport 3, and while it didn’t feel as quick as the others, it felt the most luxurious (those seats are amazing). I didn’t realize the IS 300 AWD is the V6, and supposedly less HP than the 350 V6, but 0-60 test reviews have them at the same time. My best friend’s wife has it, it feels a bit quicker than my wife’s current TLX. So we’ll save the $6K difference from the 350 AWD F Sport 3, and get the 300 AWD with Luxury pkg which gives us everything but the AVS dynamic suspension and some darker accents.
That color is just fire 🔥 🥰😅
If the platform is proven (and paid for), I think that this Lexus should have used taken advantage of the Estate (sport wagon) market... especially with their AWD and reliability. Entry level estates have worked worked for the C-class, the 3-series and that Audi. I believe that this alone would have made this ‘refresh’ standout and bring new customers into their dealerships. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
I guess if you already have a good product, you don't need to make major changes. Just some improvements.
Im a lexus and toyota guy, honestly😊 but l love to see andrea smiling in the question portion...
I just couldn't stop laughing.....
@@andreaspencer9813l know but you look great!
For people used to driving this type of vehicles, the best word to describe this fine car is : tideous
You guys are the best :) Keep up the great humor.
In top trim the 2021 Lexus IS300 has a 10.3 inch screen and the 2021 Acura TLX has a 10.2 inch screen.
Toyota/Lexus built a brand new test track in Shimoyama, Japan that is like a mini Nürburgring and this facelifted IS was the first of many other coming new models to get tested on it... turbo 6 coming next gen, rumors is that Lexus would be using new Mazda 6 RWD platform that's if they switch the Mazda 6 to RWD and due to the partnership between Toyota and Mazda
All Japanese automakers have there own mini Nurburgring look up Takasu Proving ground from Honda
Props to Lexus for keeping the NA V6. We don't all like turbocharged engines ffs, especially the sound
@japanwatchconnection knowing Lexus, the car might end up with three or four owners during its lifespan
@japanwatchconnection you're talking about the corolla
A couple of pro’s for the IS vs the TLX: The IS can be had in RWD w/an LSD. The IS’s use of old engines is classic Toyota; it make for better reliability and easier/cheaper repairs.
Still a great car Consistent great review
Thank you!
I like Lexus for being a premium, reliable car with some style. But this "new" IS is just sad. There are just too many great competitors in this class that are far superior to this car. Almost bottom of the barrel honestly.
Agree 100%
Dated !!!!!! No change but cosmetic
@@andrewthorpe7617 True, unfortunately!
I'm so happy we have Na option, exterior still looks fresh and better looking then the Acura. Inside fit and finish is amazing but the center stand they could have done more with
@@LiamG903 I agree. While the engine isn't exciting, it's reliable. And you're right; the interior is the part that lets this car down. Outside looks sharp, imo.
You didn't mention that you can get the is350 in rwd with the 8 spd trans and you won't have that transfer case bulge that was mentioned.
The interior looks pretty much the same as my sister in law’s 2017 F Sport
...and ? It is good or bad ? How about the handling or the driving experience ?
Id get the lexus. I prefer the smaller shape. The newer cars are all getting bigger and bigger. For example the new 3 series is almost the same size as a 5 series from a few generations ago. The IS is one of the few cars that are true to its roots - but perhaps a bit too faithful. Lol
14:05 'yes I think this is enough', and if it is not for those, they have ES to move. Every submodel is designed to keep the right audience. Otherwise there will be no difference between IS & ES or Series 3 & Series 4/5, A3 & A4 etc.
Test drove them both today and the is350 f sport is wayyyyyyyyy 100x better. Slower but better
Loved it! That laughing part about the "bulge" was hilarious 🤣 really great content guys and Andrea you really know how to dress. Beautiful as always!
Thank you, glad you liked the review. I just couldn't stop laughing.....
@Hugh MacIsaac lol!
IS350 > TLX all day long. FWD is boring and way less fun to drive. Double wishbone suspension on the Lexus is also superior to the Mcpherson setup on the Acura. Disappointed the IS didn't get any more power but it's still better than the TLX...
TLX sold 26k cars in 2019 and that’s the old model. Lexus IS only sold 14k and got discontinued in various countries.
6:52 It's MARK Levinson, not Martin Levinson.
Watch again, nobody said Martin
No, no, it's Maximus Levinson! : ) (great sound system BUT crappy speakers other than front)
Great video was waiting for long :) being a big Lexus fan they didn't do enough on this I mean come on a V4 Camry has 8 speed now :) and they yet carried over 6 speeds in it. I would wait or get a ES F Sport with 8 speed
Yes know about 8 speed rwd but no good in Canada :) for winters
Why does it matter if you cant tell the camry is an inline 4
Aside from the badge, I just don't get the appeal of a luxury vs non luxury vehicle nowadays. Materials, safety, comfort are almost all the same. I would rather just get the fully loaded Mazda3 (or a EV) and save some money on regular gas and the price.
Mazda is indeed doing a great job, better value than Lexus IMHO but not with IS case. Maybe the CX-5 vs the crossovers from Lexus.
Is the Mazda3 turbo better than this?
Why no manual transmission option?
The Toyota V6 is a beast and totally indestructible. I'd take this over 2 tlxs . Ever lost a complete motor to a timing belt? I have and I'll take Toyota's chain drive indestructible engines all day long. Mark Levinson stereos are worth every penny.
Same that motor makes me smile
I agree Toyota engines are pretty indestructible. However the ELS studio 3D completely obliterates that Mark Levinson system.
Ummm what’s with all these gripes about a damn screen? You’re supposed to be driving with your eyes on the ROAD. Plus, many of the functions are voice-activated anyway so how how much do you look at the screen? 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Agreed with your conclusion, great looks and handling but needs a better engine to compete and excite.
Thanks for watching!
If you get those big wheels then the ride will be very stiff over expansion joints. In the real world, 18" wheels ride a lot smoother.
Great, enjoyable review. This is from a big Lexus fan, although I never owned one.
However, this model is not a real new development, it is a disappointment.
However, still much more up-to-date than the LX570, which desperately needs a new model, since it hails from 2008!
Great fun, guys! With better handling you do get a stiffer ride, and get to brag about that bulge you feel down your right leg!
Still, without a more powerful thrust, this current IS350 owner is heading down to Genesis for a more satisfying push that puts a smile on my face every time I squeeze the go petal.
I thought the IS competes with the ILX, which has been replaced with the Integra. The TLX should be looking at the Lexus ES instead.
Idk why they put such an old interior they have other models with newer interiors could get an es
@dbocc88 this also applies to their suvs they are all old also
This video helped me with my IS350 purchase! Very informative. Took the TLX for a test drive, but just couldn’t stand the interior design, especially the push button gear selector.
As usual great review Zack. I'm thinking about getting the IS350 AWD and want to know if you think its worth paying 5k more for adaptive suspension and lighter wheels. Its going to be a daily drive in GTA. I do like the occasional spirited drive but nothing that will get my license suspended. And for that purpose, is it a better option than a 3 series?
If you can swing a 340i, that is one hell of a car
@@Motormouth... unfortunately the m340i comes to about 70k msrp. I’m comparing the is350 to the 330i. The fsport2 is350 comes to about 53 and the fsport3 at about 58k. Fsport3 gives me adaptive dampers and triple beam headlights. The other stuff is cosmetic. Is it worth spending 5k for the suspension and triple beam? And is the is350 a better daily than the 330?
Why do all these auto reviewers all need a car to look aggressive?
If you want a small sedan with a luxury V6 it's a narrow list...direct Inject and port injection so no carbon build up to worry about.
Yes, there are actually two injectors for each cylinder - the top one is a standard port fuel injector, while the bottom one injects fuel directly into the combustion chamber.
that red color looks awesome...
To the reviewers, which one do you guys personally prefer : the 2021 Lexus IS350 F-Sport or the 2021 Acura TLX?
Always Lexus for me!!
IS350 is a beautiful sedan. But it’s so dated... I hope Lexus would show something competitive.
I think Lexus now more focus on the ES.
I like this better than the Acura, the interior, and the rear drive bias...and it’s much cheaper than the comparably equipped German rivals.
This would look fantastic in a wagon/shooting-brake configuration.
Why do I get the feeling that Lexus is behind the curve in so many ways?
I’m a bit of a Toyota fanboy, and I love the way this looks on the outside. But the fuel economy on this is total garbage. There are big crossovers that do better.
Looks stunning. Pity they forgot its 2020 (6 speed auto 😏)
Why do you need more than 6 gears? You don’t, if the torque is there.
A 10% increase in mileage over the TLX is something to write home about.
It's elegant lexus.. Iprefer is 300..4 cylinder turbo.. More economical.... It's really worth to get..... V reliable
Really nice looking car but I would still get the TLX over this
Voice Commands? "Show forecast" "I need gas." "I'm hot. I'm cold."
Bulge ? That's funny ! I drive a 2017 IS300 AWD and never noticed it. Lexus has not done enough for me to upgrade. Consider the sales numbers of the last few years in North America , I can understand their decision. I will certainly go and test drive the new TLX. Who knows ? I may trade the IS for TLX.
After seeing your video, it's the Genesis G70 for me.
Especially the refreshed one! Which would be an "all-new" model in Lexus terms
Would you guys swop C class Merc with the IS? I'm on my 4th C class and bored with Merc. I've done the BMW 3 and 5 series before the Merc stage. AUDI in South Africa is more common than a New York yellow taxi, so it's not even an option for me. We not getting the Acura here, only Honda Civic. Marry Christmas and a wild 2021
I feel for handling the BMW is just great and reliability goes to the Lexus. I love Audi products but I can understand if they are a dime a dozen you may not be interested in getting one in South Africa. Wishing you a wonderful 2021, may we all get back on track sooner than later.
I traded in a 2018 IS 350 F Sport for a 2020 BMW X2 M35i earlier this year not because the Lexus was a particularly bad car but because I was just tired of it. I really am intrigued, though, by the Lexus LC 500, though, and that might be my next car. It has a NA V8 and that's the last of dying breed. What a looker, too, that LC is. You should review the LC 500 if you're able to get your hands on one.
That car with a TRD supercharger would really kick 🦵 ass IMO. Oh and an 8 speed transmission.
Redundant but I'll go for this vs the competitors.
Tried and true engineering. And trust me there's a reason why you call gimmicks gimmicks. The inclusion of apple car play / auto pretty much sums it up for a everyday peace of mind urban driver.
I dont get it! why is the IS being compared to TLX? i know for sure the IS is considered compact sedan and the TLX is a midsize sedan. The lexus GS is the one that competes with TLX but sad to say it was discontinued.
The Lexus will always win with reliability. Acura will always win with speed and performance.
I haven't watched this channel in a while. What happened to the other guy that he hired to do reviews?