why all your favorite celebrities have rich parents
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2021
- Hello guys in today's video I discuss why all your favorite celebrities have rich parents, inaccessibility in the entertainment industry/Hollywood, nepotism, and that moment when you thought you found a really relatable artist only to discover that their parents are famous, rich, have their names highlighted in blue on Wikipedia, or all of the above.
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Rags To Riches
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Survivorship Bias
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American Middle-Class
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Middle-class Actors Are More Likely To 'Misidentify' As Working Class
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Almost Three-Quarters of Actors in Film and Theatre Are From Middle-class Backgrounds Despite Only Making Up A Third of the Population
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Middle-Class People Dominate Arts
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Nepotism Definition
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Another thing that adds to this is that kids from rich families have more freedom to pick careers in the arts/entertainment, while the rest of us are more likely to pick stable “9-5” careers... because of our fear of being struggling artists with no safety nets.
Having a safety net is important
This is true the rich kid have more privilege to choose their career while the poor or middle class have to pick another job that make more money
Without a safety net, I cannot pay for groceries .....
Absolutely true!
YES. IVE BEEN SAYING THIS THANK YOU
When Kylie Jenner was called "self-made" it's a back handed insult.
Nothing back handed about it
@@J.K.7 wdym
She’s not self made. She’s smart, but not self made.
@@ilikecats9886 maybe, or her team is
@Ryan Akwar it was then that I learned that Forbes can be bought out by anyone with the right amount of money. THeir becoming a joke.
I love Taylor Swift with my life, but I really don't like it when people say she “started from the bottom”.
Dude, her parents drove her to a different state for singing lessons regularly. She got semi-professional music gear when she was a kid, and she got a $3,000 guitar for her birthday when she was just learning how to play. Her house had an entire floor dedicated to her rehearsing and practicing. Her family moved from Pennsylvania to Tennessee when the kid was 14 so she could do music. Her dad is a stock market broker and invested over $120,000 in buying 3% of Taylor's first record label.
You think a debut album can sell 40,000 copies in its first week if the artist is a total underdog? Nope.
I do believe she's really talented, I do know she's a hardworker... Now, that doesn't mean she hasn't had endless advantages over people who were as talented as her.
Yep. Her mum paid thousands to put her in a room with top songwriters in nashville when she was a kid.
Feel similarly about Lady Gaga (whose music I love). She claimed she came to New York with nothing to pursue music at one point, and people always talk about her like she's a rags to riches story, yet she grew up on the Upper West Side (ultra expensive living) and went to one of the private schools Gossip Girl was based on.
Yes. And it's alright. They should acknowledge and stop manufacturing this 'came from zero' garbage narrative.
true. don't hate taylor, in fact i love her music, but c'mon now, let's be honest w our roots..
I always thought that Taylor swift grew up middle class , finding out she is actually always been rich makes sense. She has that rich girl aura
this reminds me of when billie eilish said something about how the reason most parents don’t homeschool their kids is because they’re too lazy and don’t wanna deal with it and it just shows how she was definitely from a more affluent family than average because most parents can’t stay home to teach their kids they have to work
100% and she's had a vocal coach for years as well as extremely wealthy parents who are both actors and her mom is a Broadway actress. She's one of those "no i did this alone" rich kids when in reality she'd be no one without her parents money
Also her brother was already well established in the music industry and her first music was produced and "co-written" by him. So people praising her music genius is forgetting all this people and resources that made it posible, besides her talent
Edited: bother > brother
@@Ciritheragdoll I thought most of her music was written and not co-written by her brother.
@@rachel-po5rm he writes most of her music.
@@rachel-po5rm he writes lyrics. His brother got talent in writting
Money can literally buy anything, even a career
*Especially a career
It really really can't buy love or happiness. I had a full scholarship to one of the most expensive schools in the world and got insight into the upper and upper middle class only to find out their families are just as dysfunctional if not more so than the parents of friends of the public school I'd attended previously. They often had little relationship with their parents, and had huge expectations also placed on them few could live up to. They were almost all privileged, and yet I felt sorry for most of them, and am far happier to have had been brought up lower middle class in a loving home than most of them ever got.
@@walterroux291 I agree while I believe people should acknowledge the privilege, I don't think it is good to romanticize being wealthy
@@aarovision. I read this comment thinking the exact same thing
@@aarovision. i was just about to say the same thing!
People don't realize that Hollywood is now a dynasty. The industry is on its third generation of celebrity. Rags to riches in Hollywood (and society) is pretty much over.
Is there another "unclaimed" continent where one can travel and try again? No? Darn it!
Hollywood/Corporate America/Government. aka The INDUSTRY. It's all an "exclusive" club/sham/illusion.
@@arnvonsalzburg5033 Everywhere seems oversaturated smh
For thousands of years, most people did what their parents did. You can probably find people in Hollywood whose families have been in entertainment for a century or more.
Lol Hollywood was always nepotism.
If I had a platform like Hollywood, I would never give a complete stranger a chance to be famous before my own friends/relatives. It's common sense
Damn, how depressing. And the real rags to riches stories like Marilyn Monroe and Kurt Cobain end up dead because of childhood trauma and poverty, they probably never felt like they fit in. Shit’s not fair.
Exactly love Nirvana and Marilyn Monroe❤️
That's why we need to eat the rich.
@@loldiers3238 prolly taste like candy too
:(
@@loldiers3238 Then we need to eat you too because I’m sure you must be living a better lifestyle than most people born in other parts of the world. Even though it might be normal to you it’s rich for some people.
it's easier to be an artist when you don't have to worry about money
Exactly
I go to art school in my hometown in south italy and the italian school system makes it not so expensive for normal people like me but the opportunities are clearly way less than a private art school in milan. My parents always supported my creativity but I feel very anxious about my future even tho in 2 or 3 years (I’m 23) hopefully I will be able to teach in schools but the whole working situation in italy is totally fucked up in every field. I think about it every single day and I don’t know if I made the right decision. Here even people with multiple degrees in law or STEM struggle to find a job. So yes it’s easier to be an artist when you don’t have to worry about money. It’s really starting to affect my mental health.
@@chiara-if9zc Thats what being an artist is. A need to create in a world obsessed with consumption. Failing mental health is par the course tbh.
this the one
update: after a few tests I got accepted for a master and a stage in Rome with a well know publishing house but even though I won a partial scholarship it was still too expensive, also they weren't clear to me about some things so give up this opportunity was the best decision
whenever a famous musician gets asked the question "what was ur backup plan?" and they go on about "oh i didn't have a backup plan it was music or nothing man I just love music I couldn't do anything else, I didn't have a backup plan because I just wanted to do music I live for music" and all that, immediately I know they have well off parents. They try and spin it into "oh look at me im SUPER passionate about music" but in reality, they just don't have the same risk as an average person. They can just fall back to their family if something goes wrong. The funny thing is they TRULY believe its because they are super passionate but in reality they just have the privilege to not have to think about reality and failure.
exactly. imagine a reality where you didn’t have to sit and address the fact that you werent financially secure. not even worrying about that shit just enjoying life with zero worries. so unrelatable and privileged it’s almost painful to think these ppl are the primary figures the greater middle/lower class is watching as an audience of media
@@soupafleye Social media and living vicariously through celebrities has damaged a lot of people
That may be true but I personally would rather die than not see my dreams come to fruition.
And you know some people just truly believe in themselves, some are deluded and some have reason to.
@@launch391 What are your dreams?
@@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 to never settle for what doesnt bring me the utmost happiness and joy possible, to constantly push the boundaries of my existence. This is where my dreams currently lie.
*I haven’t forgotten Olivia Jade’s parents barely doing jail time after illegally putting her into usc*
estrella!!!!
For real !! That’s literally the definition of everything she talks about in that video . What a crazy story ..
@@SuperRose hellooo
Shout out to them for bursting my bubble about colleges with a good “reputation”.... made me realize all these schools are mostly about having the money and not the necessarily the brains. I’m happy at a community college and soon transferring to a state university...
not to mention the prison she went to was basically a yoga retreat
Same goes for pro athletes who just happen to be children...of pro athletes. And politicians who just happen to be children...of politicians.
Politicians yes, 100%, but athletes not so much, for sure they benefit from the genetics they inherited and possibly by the financial advantages of access to better coaching and training if the parent was good enough to earn big money but in general athletics (unlike the arts and politics and business) is one feild where talent trumps everything else, you might be able to get signed to play minor league baseball if you have a father who played in the Majors but unless your skill level is legitimately high enough to compete in the Major League you're never gonna end up playing there for long and you'll never become a starter in the NFL or NBA unless you have the talent to compete because there are enough other people competing for those jobs and a team's profits are driven by their success on the feild, sports are the only real meritocracy that exists
The Kennedy family are mostly politicians. Even if they’re related to a Kennedy on their mother’s side. They still have some political career. That’s only one out of thousands of examples
Its really hard to succeed in sports without talent, just look at Michael Jordan’s sons. But it helps to have wealthy parents in that you’ll have access to great coaches and the best sports academies.
With some sports, such as Football, basketball, baseball, soccer, u can get signed from playing at a good college/university. But with Olympic sports, u do have to pay your own way. That why u see many black athletes in Football & basketball, because not only r they good at their sport, but it allowed them to get out of poverty ( in some cases).
There are a long list of celebrity kids that didn't make it sports
as someone who's always idolised kpop idols, it was crazy for me to realise a while ago that their parents are almost all insanely rich. in the community we often preach about how hard trainees work and all the risks they take (which they do) but the majority of them can only do so because they don't need to worry about what will happen if they don't debut after years of nonstop training without work because their parents will support them. at first i didn't realise that massive barrier to entry, that they need so much disposable income.
Yup, while the ones that don't make it to a successful career end up having to work as waiters or in kitchens in sub jobs bc most of the times they drop out school its quite sad
For most of the second generation idols, they were actually poor or homeless but once K-pop started to get popular and successful a lot of rich kids wanted to become K-pop stars so now companies prioritize kids who have parents with influence or money it’s actually sad really
@@emolingling101 Yup, the second generation is mostly made of normal kids (like Summi, who wanted to be an idol because she wanted to support her mother and siblings) and a few exceptions (like Siwon, of course) but right now almost every idol has a wealthy background, you can literally see them wearing Chanel during their pre-debut era.
ahaha. literally half of nct are children from rich families, which makes sense for a group w that many foreign members, ofc they have wealthy parents who are able to support them enough that they can live in a foreign country. i have nothing against the members who were born rich though, ik it's not their fault and they're still undoubtedly very talented, i just think that if they didn't have rich parents they wouldn't have been able to sacrifice as much as they did to be able to debut. i think the only members who weren't from rich families are donghyuck, lucas, taeyong and doyoung. and possibly jungwoo too
I think it's then interesting to compare the music industry of South Korea to other music factories, like the USA and the UK. I can guess at why there's this pecking order and divide between which is better, but I think we all forget that the Kpop industry is just like all of the others, and money is what they all care about.
Further looking into this, I think it's interesting to look at the type of people that "fell into the Kpop blackhole", and their relationship with American/British music. I feel Kpop has been marketed as the global rebound option for people who don't like the pop-music industry of the other power factories, and thus has attracted those to this community.
I think this then shows up as a sense of entitlement and a general lack of understanding (because of the popularisation of Kpop in the younger cohorts), because people think that they've "escaped" or are better than those who do support musicians in the American/British music industry. But we haven't escaped. If anything, there's a lot of things that are worse, and whether that's hidden behind racism and xenophobia of those looking in, or money, Government relations, and a lesser global social status looking out, it does occur. It's an exact replica of all of the other music, entertainment industries out there, just re-branded with more addictive colours, effects, and images, and purposely done so to attract dopamine, sensory-seeking, self-conscious younger people.
I personally find this really interesting, because the Kpop industry has perfected the art of marketing through addictiveness, and basically mass-manipulation. I'm saying that from a good place, but it makes you wonder what we don't see, and it's certainly worse than young kids suffering from malnutrition and exhaustion.
rich ppl treating ppl that do actually useful jobs like being a nurse or a teacher as if they're failures bc they're not rich(and often severely underpaid) is such a glaring example of work ≠ money
Even worse is how they treat the minimum wage workers like cashiers or janitors, nurses and teachers are still "middle class"
Literally nurses get so much less credit
@@girlontheedge2636 don’t they get paid like almost 100k a year though?
@@opinionatednobody5631 i think it really depends on where you live and what hospital you work at, I live in nyc my mom is a nurse in the recovery room she makes around 85k a year, but my aunt who lives in NC makes 60k a year, I also know one of my mom's friends moved to a new hospital where she makes an upwards of 90k a year in manhattan but in the bronx some nurses make under 70k a year
@Blank Space
I don't think nurses make over 90k. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure
I attended a well-known private university and seen people skate through undergrad (they go out almost every single night, don’t do their homework, no extracurriculars, no internships) and land jobs at these big named companies just because of who their parents are. Being a first-generation american, i’m working my butt off to provide and establish a good life for my future lineage: it can be very discouraging seeing people get their bags without much effort. this was a great video 👩🏾💻🙏🏾
The amount of shit parents with money will get you out of in college is insane.
Smh!
@ئوشه Thank you 🥺
OMG i gedddiitttttttttttt
You can and will do it, girl! :)))
I love Willows music but I could immediately tell out of touch with reality they are when they attributed their success to hard work and manifesting on their Instagram stories. Like hunny no. Your dad is Will Smith. One of the most beloved actors in Hollywood
Is even more cringy when you read willow stans on twitter claiming against rich people
@@ThrashXumer yikes😬
Ugh…Willow is one of THOSE rich people…
I love Willow's music ! It's one ot he best soundtracks, Warwick Davis was amazing!
Mart Mardigan and Sorsha (Saoroise) were a great love n hate duo,
and Ron Howard also gave us apart from Willow, a great actress as his daughter : Bryce DAllas-Howard!
Oh... you meant demon Knight's JAda Pinkett's daughter, Willow Pinkett!
@@WithScienceAsMySheperd huh
David Beckham’s oldest son is the biggest example . He didn’t even go to school for photography and he was getting so many opportunities to shoot for fashion magazines
THIS ONE
I get your point but you shouldn't need to go school for something like photography, you can be self taught or do online courses and your work should speak for itself, the notion that everything must be back by a paper qualification is what keeps ordinary people out of many industries.
@@wordsbymaribeja1470 and funny thing is, following in from your point, many of these industries are run by elites who want ordinary people to uave qualifications from these colleges and universities meanwhile their own elite children and acquaintances don't have to. Sigh.
@@wordsbymaribeja1470 I agree, but reality says different
@@wordsbymaribeja1470 I think the point here is that an average person would almost always HAVE to have paper qualifications in order to be taken seriously. This person did not need the bare minimum of what most regular people would need in order to work in the art field. (Speaking as someone who graduated from art school, even having that paper barely guarantees your foot in any door without having tons of other experience or people backing you which makes this example even more mind boggling.)
*the famous celebrities with kids who are tiktokers lol. looking back on the trend where people show off family members who are celebrities...it’s really just them exposing nepotism*
it’s more than that-
the tiktok algorithm literally chooses wealthy people in the same way they push pretty people. It’s easy to spot the signs, obscenely high ceilings, a pool set in the ground and looking manicured, flexing luxury products
Charli Damelios father is like mayor or something
most of the other big tiktokers on most sides of the platform are wealthy and it’s not a coincidence
@@zcalhoun3638 yea for sure. there’s people who literally just make tiktoks about their luxurious lifestyle and become famous cuz of it
the main one i can think of is bella cuomo or claudia conway
Generational success isn't nepotism. Nepotism is where you literally give your family jobs. Generational success is caused by an increased access to resources, which includes expanded support networks. Maybe these kids are getting boosted somehow, through advertisers or bots, but maybe you're watching them because they could afford the world's best singing and acting coaches. Maybe people like their big fancy house, the stylish way they dress, etc.
Take pretty much any moderately successful youtuber, and they're people who already had wealth before they started. You don't get there starting in your trailer park on a 144p camera. Not even if that person is a natural comedic genius.
I just don't get why anyone would blame someone because their environment leads to their success. What were they supposed to do, not be popular or talented?
@@zcalhoun3638 TikTok also handpicks 'creators' (literally this is how the CEO engineered the success of the platform) they want to 'promote' in the algorithm to basically inspire the average user to join.. they literally have a team of real people that select creators that they want to give a platform to (outside of the algorithm). most often they are 'aspirational' in some way, whether that be wealthy, beautiful, or influential in other ways
this reminds me of olivia rodrigo's stans tbh. they act like her parents are just "a therapist and a teacher" when in reality they're a los angeles bourgeoisie family with generational wealth and her mother essentially bought her acting career for her
WHAT- as an Olivia fan I'm shocked but honestly not surprised :/
@@emilym9390 i think its just not possible to stan pop stars without finding out about some kind of backing for them anymore unfortunately. :/ i love rina sawayama but it turns out her parents were rich enough to send her to oxford and had a modeling career which gave her connections. i like lana's music even if she's one of the most well known industry plants of our time. its really depressing.
And couldn't the same thing be said about Miley Cyrus ? I just thought of that, but she also does come from an already famous family
@@lucieleairth yuppers
@@lucieleairth Yeah, but everyone knows that because Billy Ray & his Achy breaky heart(plus he acted as her dad). Doesn't hurt that she's really talented too. I mean..if connections are all it took, her brother would be just as successful.
Beyoncé is a good example of having upper middle class parents supporting their child’s career. They paid for pageantry costs and vocal trainings which honed her image, talent, and work ethic. I think at one point she and DC were homeschooled. There was a short span in 95’ when Bey’s dad quit his job to manage them, but by 96’ they signed to Columbia. Most black parents won’t sacrifice this much even when they have the money because they believe so strongly in education 😔 The arts need more support.
But she has talent lmao
Cause most people ain’t going to be Beyoncé
@@brit7627 she's not the only talented one out there though. OP is just wishing more talented aspiring artists get this kinda familial support.
yup, her dad was actually the first black regional manager of retail (or supermarket?) chain, her mom either owned or worked in a salon
that doesn't sound like upper middle class that sounds like upper class 💀
Any of y’all remember how Billie Eilish posed/played on the idea of coming from struggle and “making it out” until her family was noted to be pretty wealthy along with her parents being “prominent”/ established figures in the behind the scenes- background of the entertainment industry OR am I just hallucinating?
I remember 🥴
Facts
@Kirsten A I saw multiple people commenting on Ariana grande and the Olsen twins and their sister.
@Kirsten A it's because we all know Elizabeth Olsen comes from the Olsen family and she was never shy about it. We also know Ariana was rich and she wasn't shy about it either. Taylor Swift was pretty straight forward about her parents being able to financially support her career start (it was her former lable that tried to push the small town girl narrative). People let them be because they never tried to downplay their upbringing
@Kirsten A owning a house (little as it is) in Los Angeles of all places, while affording extra curriculars for kids is by no means humble beginnings though
I feel like rags to riches stories and narratives keep capitalism alive and feed the system just as much as people who come from money. The general masses are “driven” to work towards these dreams even though no amount of hard work will get you there and most of the time it just comes down to luck or being at the right place at the right time.
'Rags to riches' keeps the workaholic/hustle culture alive.
Exactly which results in many people suffering from mental health issues due to feelings of inadequacy, constantly feeling like you are not working hard enough towards your dreams forgetting that the system is not designed in your favour.
I think that rags to middle or upper middle class stories are actually ver possible. But rags to uber millions is really, really rare.
imani ur brain is huge 😩😩
Spilled!
Literally every time I look up a celebrity for inspiration, they have a wealthy background or connections I’m sick
Don't look to celebrities for inspiration, most are full of shit narcissists who are detached from reality and live in a bubble of suck ups and yes men.
Try following david goggins he came from nothing ans build himself up and now nes a
Same:(
@@thecanadakid7622 exactly, I call absolutely no one my role-model because the older you grow, the more you understand that the most successful people usually are narcissistic because having their traits will get you very far in life. If you can play dirty, you will get very far.
Yep.
In my opinion this is why art in general, suffers. We have talented artists, actors, writers and musicians who will never get a shot because of the nepotism in show business and in all business. Talent is secondary to connections and wealth.
Fr. Like 70 pct of what’s on the radio these days is just regurgitated sound
Everyone decides for themselves what art they consume. The vast majority of people are too lazy to check out stuff that isn't marketed to them.
Just because you aren't on a red carpet doesn't mean you're not successful.
Who the fuck even wants to be that famous?
Miley Cyrus is an example of this. Super talented and worked hard of course, but Billy Ray (and her godmother Dolly Parton) already having their foot in the entertainment industry door made a huge difference for her.
Really???!! No one knew 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ivanaandric5703 no need to be rude I was just pointing it out...
Don't forget about her sister and brother also milking "that one hit wonder" from their father
She got her movie roll in Big Fish because her dad to her to the audition
She’s still a talented artist and actor though; can’t lie about that
Hollywood is a massive social circle that you get born into. That's it. All these celebs grew up together and now their kids are growing up together and will be the next generation of actor/actresses and celebs. It's a neverending cycle.
there are some self made ones fortunately. like rachel mcadams dad was a truck driver. brad pitts parents were farmers i think.
its why you have ao many stories about celeb knowing eachother as kids
@@ezrachang2756 yeah but they are 1 in 1000 and usually had started at their early 10s
Except for brad pitt
That guy is literally solid luck and thats it
How can someone be THAT LUCKY
Move to la at 21 22 and get ur first job at 25 and here u are one of the biggest stars
@@dlalalabu5956 and jonnhy depp and leonardo dicarpio
Mmmh Beyonce??
Jeff Bezos acted like he used his last savings to start Amazon 🙄 meanwhile his parents loaned him million$😐💔
That reminds of a newspaper article in my home country, the title was "X person started a successful business without money". Then you read the article "she borrowed 300k from her grandfather" 👀
oh my god minara got taken out before we could hear what they had to say 😔 ✊ RIP
Elon Musk's family owned an Emerald Mine in South Africa and were major investors in his first businesses.
@Ultra Boost .... His big ideas include bringing indentured servitude to mars and making a tunnel for rich people to skip out on a bit of traffic. most of tesla’s income isn’t from selling electric cars, it’s from allowing other car companies that DO contribute to destroying the planet to buy credits from them so that they don’t have to worry about selling enough energy efficient cars. Tesla still has issues with workplace safety and fair wages.
Support the people that actually are trying to make a change to improve the world, people in your own community, not some rich guy role playing as Tony Stark to impress redditors and throwing money away to colonize a a barren planet instead of simply helping us fix the one we’re already stuck on lol
Aren't it Jeff Bezos started Amazon with his wife?
Reminds me of part of why Princess Diana was so loved. She was the daughter of an Earl, but she was living her life actually taking care of small children in an actual job rather than partying all day like people in her position usually did.
yeah she’s also an interesting point in this context because there was no way for her to hide how rich and privileged she actually was like some celebrities do because she was a princess haha, but she used her position to do worthwhile things. I just think open acknowledgment and actual kindness go a long way
Don't forget that one time she held a child with AIDS during the HIV/AIDS crisis.
@@plummypurple No one forgot she was privileged. Do you know how to read?
The fuck are you saying
@@plummypurple Being privileged doesn't make you morally inferior.
This reminds me of Daisy Ridley denying her privilege played a role in her acting success. She genuinely didn’t understand how it could impact her as an actor getting cast. She even compared her background (privately educated) to John Boyega (who had to apply for a hardship fund to access his actor training)
Billy Howle is another non-privately educated actor who has spoken about how when he goes for casting calls and auditions in the UK, people ask which school he went to, with the expectation that it should be from one of the top private schools, like Eton or Harrow.
When I was growing up, I knew a girl who was very well off financially from her father’s earnings, she went to a private school. She wanted to be an actor and came very close to being cast in a movie, just because the casting people auditioned girls from private schools for the role. (She would have co-starred alongside Aaron Taylor-Johnson)
This is not an uncommon way to cast child roles in the UK. This is also how George Mackay was scouted for Peter Pan, which was his first job as a child actor.
A lot of people in the arts industry don’t even realise how privileged they are: their standard of what is normal is echoed to them by who they meet and work with. They all consider themselves self-made because they are genuinely privilege-blind.
nice term. privilege blind 🤭
Privilege-blind. I'm going to use that from now.
Literally all the British male actors you can think of with all the big roles typically come from Eton and Harrow tbf. I went to private school, not a drama based one, but I would respect them more if they were just outright about their privilege. Their blindness adds to their unreliability.
was the aaron taylor johnson girl auditioning for angus thongs and perfect snogging by any chance?
"Whoever said money can't solve your problems must not've had enough money to solve em" -Ariana Grande
@@PleistocenePaul I think what she meant was that people always say “Money can’t solve problems” or “money doesn’t make you happy” when it obviously does and the only people who say that are either filthy rich capitalists or people who are fake humble.
@@PleistocenePaul I guess it's more about this lie we tell ourselves that money would not make us more happy or even reduce our wellbeing. So not true, money can make the difference between death or life when you're ill, in a civil war country, don't have to ruin your health in a shitty career etc.
@@PleistocenePaul I see your point now. Thanks for elaborating because I hate that too, people born into wealth bragging and showing off their “success”
Oy Gevalt
@@PleistocenePaul it only makes sense because she's a trust-fund kid I think you're just mad that she's rich and has always been rich.
Because that phrase is not inflammatory, are you cool when rich people are like "More Money More Problems, i miss the chase"
Is that a cool thing for rich people to say?
Or do you just in general hate when rich people talk about the relation of money and problems, cuz that's relatable.
Holy balls, completely off topic but its just occured to me that jaden and willow have gender swapped names of their parents
Imagine how awkward if would be if willow was a boy instead, that would be weird
willow = will & jaden = jada. wow.
Jaden also looks more like Jada and Willow more like Will lol
😯
Hahaahahha
This happens in STEM as well. Most scientist at large university with well-funded research labs also had parents who held high positions in academic circles or were influential scientist.
Yeah it sucks so much. My parents have nothing to do with STEM and there's me struggling to find internships because I lack connections, and then I see someone who did worse than me finish faster because their dad or mom is a doctor in X position.
Please don't tell me that this privileges work in academics as well 😭 this is my only hope to have a stable career.
@biu biu lmao seems like I'm going to be in ur uncle's position. My dad is planning to sell his land so that I can become a scientist in the UK. I don’t think scientists there make much money, I don't even know if I'll be able to pay for my old parents emergency hospital needs back home. I feel guilty that I should choose something else.
Also getting a PhD, fellowship, unpaid internship, etc. and all the conference and networking needed to make it in STEM/Academia is such a massive cost because most regular people can’t do all of that since we’d have no way of paying for living expenses while we “pursue our dreams” but upper class people can!
@@willcarlton3906 agree
as an aspiring actress, I've realized what a bunch of bullshit the "if you work hard enough, you can achieve anything" phrase that celebrities I look up to preach. I was heartbroken when I realized how almost 90% of the most successful artists that I look up to had extremely rich parents or connections. and how some of them have been profiting from it for generations, yet they have the audacity to tell us to work hard as if their connections and millions and their last name haven't made them what they are today.
what is even more infuriating is the fact that nepotism in the entertainment industry will only increase, as the current nepotism artists are having kids/giving opportunities to their relatives. and even the people who didn't have the privilege when they became a successful artist will have babies or give opportunities to their friends or family. this will turn into a literal dynasty in the upcoming years. its already showing great signs, it'll only increase.
the work hard myth is so revealing with the internet. we see so many people who have worked hard, so hard for their children and haven't been rewarded.. you're so right about this whole thing turning into some fame dynasty. like a nepo pyramid and it's so sad because i love a good come up/underdog story in the arts
😂😂😂😂😂You cracked me up, so naive.. It DID turn into a dinasty. A loooong time ago, ever since the golden age of Hollywood (1930 - 1950-s). And it's not 90%, it's 99%. Sorry, but all this has been looooong know.
It’s extremely discouraging and sad…
I've read in Jackie Chan's book how his parents were refugees in Hong Kong and they sent him to Opera school were he learned martial arts and gymnastics. I don't remember what exactly his parents did but they paid for him to train there for ten years starting when he was five. Then he got started being a stuntman for Bruce Lee and starting doing his own movies but without all that training and money for the training he probably wouldn't have gotten very far
@@peachy4713 it is but then you gotta think if you love doing something then just do it for the passion and not the money. Get a camera and start making videos, get creative and get good shots. Someone might or might not notice you but who cares you do it because you enjoy it
Everything you said was absolutely on point. I personally find it quite annoying to see the same 5 actors being cast on everything, sure this person is talented or very profitable for the studios but there is SO MUCH talent out there that will sadly never get any recognition. I've seen little african girls singing circles around the people that are currently on the charts, street musicians with incredible unique voices, and the list goes on and on. It's gotten to the point where casting agents simply "offer" already stablished celebrities roles or they ask about social media followers if you want to even be considered for an audition. It's never been just about talent and it never will be.
Most of those actors are guaranteed profit, they're names bring people, where random people don't. If Leonardo di caprio or brad pitt is in a movie they are going to make cash on the movie with out a dought. Also most work as an artist is promoting yourself and all that, being talented is not enough all though that is changing with exposure from youtube etc. Your right it's not about talent, it's about money. All though there are a lot of artists making big bank, lots of actors who you would assume are scraping by including tons of people you've never heard of are also making lots of money and are very successful actors.
@@thecanadakid7622 True but if you have this mentality then how do actors become up & coming. There are so much independent films / series doing really well on Netflix and most of the time their small time actors
@@TheDestineyy You see how it happens all the time, look at Jim halpert from the office, He got some major movie roles for being in what started as a small sitcom. You start in small roles and if people like you as an actor or what your in gets bigger you get more name recognition and you move up. Look at that actor from the walking dead with the motorcycle, he was relatively unknown now he is featured in video games and has had some large scale movies made. People like actors they recognize and have a track record they can look at, like any job experience matters. production company's will spend more on actors that have fans, because those fans will watch their content which increases revenue. Huge actors can also have their careers ruined if a movie or two they are in does badly.
"There are so much independent films / series doing really well on Netflix and most of the time their small time actors"
Those small time actors are making good bank and a good living which is what a successful actor is, not everyone is going to be a super famous celebrity. Do you have any idea how much competition there is. You can be an actor and make a decent living without being the biggest star in the world. If you are an actor to be rich and famous, stop and do something else, you have a very slim chance like a lottery ticket, it comes down to luck.
Yes. Theres girls right now in my church and they sing circles around Billie eilish and all this kids who had parents with connections.
@@polifonyann It’s crazy. The odds are always gonna be in the privileged favour.
I hate whenever I talk about nepotism there's always people saying things like "but they're talented too!" or "why wouldn't their parents help them?!?". literally nobody is trying to say nepotism kids aren't talented because they have rich parents but I don't understand why it's so difficult to just acknowledge that they basically had a fast track into the industry and all the resources to fund their career.
ofc their parents would help them but some of these celebrities go out of their way to distance themselves from their parents and it would be go much better if they just owned the fact that they've had a very privileged life and acknowledged their relationship with their rich ass family
EDIT: I also don't understand this need people have to defend nepotism babies as if they're members of your own family??? like you do not know them, you don't need to be backing them this hard
also it annoys me even more as a british person because literally every actor comes from some sort of legacy, an acting family going back for generations. either that that or their parents are extremely rich and they were privately educated which comes with a whole host of other privileges
yeah like for musicians/singers/ entertainers in general, learning as well as marketing a craft is usually aided by taking lessons and buying useful materials like instruments and media equipment - these things are not cheap. some amount of disposable income must be available to even start children on these interests.
cover artists who blew up and have the whole set up of a nice bedroom, high quality recording equipment, attractive videos and shiny guitars have more resources than less popular cover artists who do their best with lesser quality equipment.
idk i can appreciate talent and drive, but a lot of talented people don't have the "luck" that others have bc they don't have the resources to propel them forwards and that's really sad.
You just spoke my mind.
exactly! I was attacked by some kpop fans when I said that jennie from blackpink came from a rich family and had the privilege to pursue such a risky career, I didn't say anything bad about jennie because Im a huge fan of hers too but I got attacked just because I acknowledged that she had a lot of privilege in getting where she is now.
Cough cough Kendall Jenner and the Hadids.
I love how this is no longer an unpopular opinion, met with a "you're just jealous of the rich!" excuse.
Thank you so much for making this video.
Even without connections getting musical training, stage time, travel for auditions, marketing, management, cosmetic maintenance and clothing all costs money.
This is true
Yep. I know first hand
THANK YOU getting an agent is NOT easy ....
I'm currently getting training 🙃
@@alexgreen1913 nice, i hope you make it
You know, I was thinking about this a few days ago. No one is really 'self-made.' Almost everyone in the industry has a few connections or has a closely related family member.
yea connections is key it’s a privilege to have fame
This reminds me of one the first videos of her that i watched. About meritocracy.
cough cough Kylie jenner
Lil nas x doesn't i guess, he gives me hope imma abuse internet and get famous too 😅 but only if i stop being lazy and actually put in that work🐰
I think (hope) Kali Uchis doesn’t have one
An issue I think is sometimes overlooked in this conversation is disability. So many resources for disabled people are expensive. For many disabled people, simply being alive is a privilege.
Yep that would be me
Completely agree, well-said.
YES THIS!! I've always been in poverty, but my dad managed to get a tiny bit of financial stability. If I wasn't able to get support from my parents, I would not be alive. Everything I need to survive is so insanely expensive. To have any *quality* of life is even more. If my parents die any time soon, I will probably die too. My little bit of financial comes at the price of having any freedom, independence, or autonomy. If I don't live my life the way my parents expect, I will die. It's a very strange intersection of privilege and oppression to experience lol
@@june9838 same. And it gets harder when you're bad at or make mistakes at all the stuff they expect you to do in return for they housing you- like being good academically, or having a talent in sports or the arts. When you have nothing to offer back for the support it is harder to accept what they do for you. Sometimes i wish i could just give whatever bare necessities they give to someone who actually deserves them. Because i know i don't. 😕
the girl who played daphne on bridgerton, she has a whole family of well known actors in the uk. its so easy to become succesful if you’ve given the time and recources to study something like acting, basically since you were a child. plus the contacts you already have - you dont have to make them yourself. you get coaching from your family on a daily basis on how to navigate within a field (like acting or music, or anything really).
she's not even good! acting wise
Omg I can't stand that chick she is a terrible actress. 🤦🏽♀️😂
I’ve been thinking about this recently as well!!! It’s crazy how many celebrities were born into wealthy backgrounds. I mean Emma Stone, Chris Evans, Ariana Grande, lady gaga, Kate Hudson, Dakota Johnson, Billie Eilish. The list is endless. Also practically all the famous runway models who are just daughters of famous model. Eg kaia gerber, Lily rose depp etc.
yup. bella hadid, gigi hadid, kendall jenner, etc but i will say that the hadid sisters are really good at what they do and have gotten better over the years unlike.....
Taylor swift and Demi as well
chris evans? who is chris evans' connection?
@@sumayasaid3715 which Demi Demi Lovato?
@@kelseymarie3754 yes
One celebrity that DID surprise me was Ed Sheeran. I know all his songs so I was shock that his parents were so well off. He literally has songs about being homeless and couch surfing and barely making it by (Homeless, You Need Me I Don’t Need You). But he always had his family to fall back on if all else fails. Maybe even borrowed money from his parents while he was busking in London.
Apparently he did actually couch surf while getting his start. It was on Jamie Foxx's couch though
@@jam5369 Yes, that’s true (Big Ed fan I know too much honestly). I’m not saying he lied, I am saying that his music gives (or at least gave) the impression that he was way worse off than he was.
@@1435queen it’s because he ran away from home for a while (used to have a heated relationship with his parents) and then he started making music while on his own then as he started getting attention his parents began to support him again
Yeah but if you’re crashing on Jamie Fox’s couch, that’s not the common couch surfing situation.
He was just another rich kid slumming it "for the experience", like the Greek heiress in the song 'Common People"
Wait but real talk, what about The Weeknd? I genuinely think he's one of the few actual rags to riches story and grew up in a single-parent home and he himself was homeless at one point. His mom worked multiple jobs bc they were financially struggling and he rarely saw her. He also dropped out of highschool with his best friend, Lamar, to chase his dreams. However, I still agree with this video. Abel was fortunately just lucky.
Interesting I didn't know this. What happened to his best friend?
I’m proud to be a early fan of The Weeknd because you can quite literally map his career from the start and he hints towards it time from time he put to work in and its paying off for him
@@ahsjsjsdhrhjrjrii911his best friend helped him a TON during the beginning of his career he def believed in him. He’s a co founder of XO records but does his own thing now
there’s this singer in spain, rosalia, i love her but she was presented as rags to riches because she started in really small venues in small towns in spain to literally doing worlwide tours and having her music in tv shows like euphoria. the other day i discovered her dad was a music producer and honestly felt so decieved?? like it’s true she has worked her ass off and is an amazing singer and songwriter but when you think someone came from nowhere and then you discover that that isn’t true it kind of feels like you were cheated on 😂
Omg rosalia too?! 😭😑
Damn everyone has connections smh
From what I’ve read her mom is also a wealthy business owner. She owns a shipment company or something like that. I didn’t know about her dad but I guess that has purposely been left out of her narrative 🙄
Yikes rosalia
The real surprise nowadays is finding out someone that doesn’t have connections/isn’t a nepo baby
This is so apparent in the modeling industry right now. The Hadid girls, Kendall Jenner, Hailey Baldwin, Emrata, etc...who all got plastic surgery in order to model. I always loved the stories where girls from poverty were “discovered,” started a successful modeling career and became millionaires all on their natural beauty.
Your comment made me think of Natalia Vodianova who grew up in poverty with a single mother and a disabled sister. She sold fruit from a stand on the side of the road to help feed them. To go from that to being a succesful model and marrying a viscount is some fairy tale shit!
Adut Akech used to live in a refugee camp, she’s gone trough alot and she’s an incredible super model now!
I'm Brazilian and I've heard lots of people mentioning Giselle Bundchen when they talk about rags to riches stories and that always makes me so mad lmao. She was born in the richest, whitest part of the country from a very well-off family and even other Brazilian people like to say she's an example when ??????? she's not.
Yeah the supermodels like of the 90’s who were all discovered is something that’s long gone
as if natural beauty was a talent lol its still very much a legacy. genetic legacy
Clairo is a prime example. Her dad has multiple connections and has marketed for coco cola, p&g and much more. Nothing against her. But her growth was definitely backed because she probably had connections tbh
And don't forget about Lana del Rey, her dad's rich
Gracie Abrams too. I followed her when she had around 90k instagram followers and hadn't been signed to a record label yet. She would post videos of her singing her original songs in her bedroom and I loved the indie 'started from her bedroom artist' type of aesthetic she gave only to find out both her dad and granddad were successful film directors and she was filming those videos in her family's 21 million dollar LA mansion.
@@vanillamatcha1125 lol thats awkard
So does that mean J J Abrams has a daughter called Gracie?
"if shes an industry plant i will water her" 🤡 🤡
You are so right about the internship. I remember a bunch of people saying "do an internship so you can network and meet people," but who actually has the money to be able to work that long without any pay?
I feel like this hits the worst when your favourite indie or punk artist has wealthy parents
I'm glad oasis is not the case
Can't relate, the Weeknd Stan here lol
Even worse is when those punks give shit to the artist who actually do come from low class backgrounds for “selling out” if they get successful
the one thing I really hate about nepotism is that it dampens your soul. It makes me feel like no matter what I do, I will never truly make it because I dont have the connections and/or the money to back it up. And honestly, I dont think there is anything more de-motivating than that. But being de-motivated just feels like it just feeds into the cycle. Its almost like you never win.
I want to be a writer, I feel you :(((
I want to be an artist... Yea.. I feel you.. 😐
I think you can still make a living off doing what you love, you just probably won’t become a household name like Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, etc. But there’s certainly a middle ground between that and making nothing at all.
Remember that nepotists _want_ you to feel cynical, as if there's nothing you can do and you should accept your place.
But what you *can* do is support UBI so anyone has the time and resources to be an artist. And eat the rich.
@@LowestofheDead This!
When you try to bring this up, delusional stans are like “They struggle too!” “They are just as talented” “they worked hard just like everyone else”
No one is doubting that they haven’t gone through some stuff and haven’t worked hard but just the fact that they are in the industry in the first place was easier for them. Furthermore, the path of fame isn’t as costly to them financially because if it didn’t work out they would have been fine. Becoming an artist, actress, idol, director etc. is a risk that they had the luxury to take. They have the money for the acting lessons, dance lessons, trainee system, film school, etc.
Edit: In the US, nepotism is one of the biggest contributors to the lack of diversity in the entertainment industry because the wealthy class is majority white.
Money grants access.
@Queen queen I agree, no one should have to struggle to be happy, but it’s the blind belief that “they worked so hard and everyone else should hustle” that is very dangerous
@UCozrVn1qcnDlZFeT7gNJiyg yes, I’ve seen that one☺️
Also I understand this- I went to college for film and not having the leg up made it difficult- let alone not having parents who can support you working as an unpaid intern for a few years can really hinder your career prospects.
@@dnikkithatsame5990 well said.
Gigi and Bella hadid are a classic example. Model mom and billionaire dad. They grew up in a 100 million dollar mansion in LA
I mean they never claimed they had a rags to riches story that I can recall. Their mom was a model and they were modeling since they were born so they grew into not and wasn’t thrusted into or tried to force their way in.
Not only celebrities, surprisingly all kids of high ranking politicians end up in Ivy League Universities 🙄
I mean we all know about the varsity blues scandal. All those rich parents made "donations" so their rich kids can go to that school😑
What makes me sad is that all the low income kids who could change their lives with a spot at those schools had their places taken by kids whose daddy donated a building.
I was a scholarship student at a prestigious boarding school (applied on a whim to escape homelessness), and that really radicalized me. A common phrase I heard from the adults was “if you have to apply for a position, you’re doing it wrong”. I was a first gen applying to colleges and felt so alone seeing how most students’ parents had paid people to apply for schools and scholarships for them. Now at 25 years old I look at those I knew were scholarship students and who came from mega-wealthy families and notice who has made it big and in what fields and it isn’t the scholarship students 👀
so fucking sad and upsetting. the world is truly set up for the rich.
I’m dealing with this. I just took a Job Prep class in my grad program and the final summation is only 8% of people get hired from “cold applications” bc most listed job offers are already filled by someone known to the HR person. It’s not about what you know, it’s who you know. #1 advice, network, reach out to people and ask for a job and tell them about your qualifications bc filling out an application is a waste of time.
i go to a private school in south africa and I am so grateful the experiences and things i’ve gained just by proximity to these rich people is actually crazy. I know i won’t be as well of as them but I will definitely be better than most
@@inhle1688 you definitely will babe, I’m a St. Andrew’s girlie from SA too and honestly being born with a silver spoon has its drawbacks. The wealthy kids don’t make it as far here, maybe it’s knowing your millionaire/billionaire parents will bail you out and forever being focused on the wrong things like flex culture but I hope seeing that 80% of the celebs in SA had humble beginnings somehow inspires you
@@Notnatasha awwwhhh thank you, i actually was going to go to st. andrews but now I go to Kingsmead. I definitely don’t want fame but it is easier to come across in South Africa even if you’re not “rich”
Celebrity culture would drop tremendously if people were more transparent about nepotism and classism being considerate factors in their success. The mystery and hype around them would dissipate quickly.
Also i feel as if people are willingly being fed rags to riches stories (hustle culture) because "hard work" is considered more virtuous alongside the ego stroke of being "self-made".
Meanwhile someone who actively seeks to social climb (because i mean nepotism isnt going away anytime soon) is frowned upon and considered tacky...If only they would make it more subtle like put on a suit in a corporate environement, start a conversation with the right person, and call it "networking". Lol.
I believe the root of the "rags to riches" narrative goes back to the rise of Protestantism, and its whole ethic of "work is holy". The ultimate fruit of that narrative culminates with the 20th century "American Dream". That I think played a huge part in creating this perception that everyone who's successful must've earned it "fair and square" on the back of "hard work" and "blood, sweat and tears". Prior to that all over the world, and across all cultures, people have always known that family heritage and connections have always been factor #1 for a person's success and good position in society. That's why throughout history, things like inheritance of land and titles, arranged marriages, strategic family alliances, family feuds, blood loyalty and blood ties have always been in the forefront of people's preoccupations. It's only after the protestant reformation and the rise of capitalism that people at large began to see education and "working hard" as the primary means for a person to move up in life.
Ultimately I think it's a good thing that this switch happened as it is a better ethic that people should educate themselves and work in order to accumulate wealth, but it can be a bad thing if people are blinded by idealism and forget that this whole work ethic is an ideal and not a reality and that family ties and heritage are still by far the most determining factor for a person's outcome in life.
@@Guillhez wow i love your comment!
I do not know if you are religious but As a protestant myself, i do see what is trying to be said by "work is holy". However, the new testament emphasises on living with integrity by prioritizing work over theft. In this sense its more of "self-help" to avoid causing prejudice.
So perhaps rags to contentment is more of the virtue being advertised. It is indeed an ideal that as beleivers we should tend to, which makes the journey of walking by faith inspite of reality quite challenging.
Capitalism and the rise of middle class shook history up. As much as i dislike some aspects of it i have to admit it does have some advantages in the sense that nepotism is more covert now though still very present and there is a slim chance for a small demographic to climb the social ladder through education (and a liiitle bit of ah, good ol' fashioned networking) and other means.
In conclusion, earth is ghetto.
@@Guillhez Very interesting comment, but perhaps I could counter your position that it's a good thing, a little. People have worked plenty hard. Perhaps a blacksmith could never become a lord or a king, but he could build a better house or eat better food, so despite the awareness of a class system, there was always plenty of motivation to work harder.
The negative that I see is this "blame the poor" philosophy, and "each man for himself", that seems especially prevalent in the US today. It's often used as an excuse not to care about each other or treat each other with compassion. The easiest example is no national health care. Not only do people lose their homes trying to save a loved one, but they sometimes actually die from lack of medical care, or the inability to pay for necessary drugs. "Shoulda worked harder", sounds cold when directed toward a family that did work hard and just had to come up with $750,000 for a catastrophic heart or cancer event. "If so and so can do it, anyone can", sounds like a selfish excuse to feel comfortable turning a blind eye to suffering when so and so comes from millions.
This "American Dream" message seems to have become somewhat of a justification for an outlook that legitimizes a cut throat approach to each other rather than, fostering a healthy society.
Wow this comment made me realize so much! Now all of the hype of ANY celebrity that had connections in the industry or came from wealth isn‘t appealing to me at all anymore. With that information l couldn‘t care less what they do now
@@Sabrina-sx9fl I always had a problem with Shania Twain for that reason, and I don't care for country music. But I understood her parents died and she was raising a bunch of siblings and then went to Nashville and got discovered? Seems like there was a big gap in that story. Somewhere she had to be handed a break, it's not free to move like that. I don't begrudge her the break, but I don't care how that part of the story goes missing.
My favorite celeb with middle class-upper middle class parents is Jack Black. His mom worked with NASA and was one of the people who ensured that Apollo 13 got back safely. His entire family is extremely smart and are all scientists I’m pretty sure.
The safety net is a huge thing. I have a friend who now works as a producer on UK TV. When he first started in the industry, he had to move to Manchester. When you first work in TV, you go from project to project, so can't rely on a guaranteed income, which can make getting housing difficult. But his dad was able to act as a guarantor on him purchasing an apartment. He didn't actually give him any money, but the safety net was there if he needed it. Not rich, but comfortably middle class.
In the UK it’s even more fun because you get the excitement of finding out that a famous person is 58th in line to the throne…
Great video! Was awesome to see that research about how rich people in the arts perceive their class “story” come up-I have a lot of friends who that angered greatly when that came out, haha!
The UK entertainment industry is at an all time low right now as far as accessibility goes. Almost everyone of them has had some form of public school education.
And I know that actors like Judi Dench and Michael Caine have made reference to the same problem. Back in their day there used to be specific benefits available for people seeking work in the arts that is no longer available, so of course now the only ones succeeding are those who can afford to.
@@jeepersfred6796 oh definitely, im british and the amount of actors who went to eton (best and v expensive private school for boys here) is shocking
I knew a guy I went to school with, who's mom worked for NASA, not sure what dad did, but it was a job that required a pretty dense degree. They made six figures a year, their house cost around 400,000 dollars, housing complex,,and was in one of the richest cities in Northern Indiana.
He argued, very angrily, that he was middle class.
I was like, bro... if you're middle class, I'm in third-world country level poverty.
@@kaylacarpenter272 Are you suggesting he is higher than middle class? $400,000 doesn't seem like a great deal of money for a house. It's around the average cost of a house in the UK and wouldn't be considered lavish.
@@merlinmediagroup I live in the US. Our economies function differently.
Middle-income Americans, are those whose annual household income is two-thirds to double the national median (adjusted for local cost of living and household size). For a family of three, that ranges from $40,100 to $120,400. Now, subtract all the bills and food from that income.
The average house, around that time, which was around 2008 (when our economy wasn't super inflated), was around 70,000 - 85,000 dollars. A 400,000+ dollar home during that time, is probably close to double that, now, and was high, then.
Have you factored in land tax? This land is provincial to a gentrified area, so the tax is high. Over 2,000 grand a year. Average tax for average homes are roughly anywhere from 300 to 800 a year, depending on the area. Factor in the fact that they are HOA, and have to pay for disposal services, and anything else to meet HOA requirements.
His mother was a NASA engineer. It's 80 times harder to become a NASA engineer, than to qualify for Harvard. She was making close to, if not, 200,000 a year. To think that an income like that, or a 400,000+ dollar home is middle class, is obscene, especially in 2008.
Recently found out that Jack Black's mom was an engineer that helped save Apollo 13 astronauts (on the same day she birthed him!). Just throwing out that example of upper middle class entertainers
Edit: Actually I'm unclear about whether this happened on the same day she gave birth. According to Snopes her obituary stated: "When it was time to go to the hospital, she took with her a computer printout of the problem she was working on. Later that day, she called her boss and told him that she had solved the problem. And . . . oh, yes, the baby was born, too.” It looks like she solved a problem for work while in labor (w/ Jack Black) but the problem might not have been specifically related to Apollo 13.
Omg!
It wasn't exactly on the same day she birthed him, but you're otherwise correct. Someone should ask Jack Black (who I think is awesome, btw): "How does it feel to have a mother who's more badass than you?" Also: Jack Black should have played Starlord in 'Guardians of the Galaxy', or at least Ego in 'GoG 2', I will not discuss this!
Oh wow
At least she contributed to societt
YO WHAT?
Billie Eilish was signed to a record label before she released her first song and they made it to look like she blew up organically
And Clairo had the same situation, payed money for a lot, and hers really f’ed me up bc she made me think I could blow up with GarageBand and an iPhone mic😭
Lol you do realize that in order to release a song you need to be signed right ? 😂
@@sikerslalatm3147 no u don’t- it’s not what ur supposed to do on your first try. U sound like a fool, that’s not how record labels work
She actually released Ocean eyes in 2015 & signed in 2016. Then re-released it.
@@azereth338 not your first try but to have a successful career , wether you like it or not you need a label to back you up.
Yeah trying to make it independent has genuinely ruined my appreciation of music full stop... I can't look at any music the same now
I feel like another aspect that wealth plays that digs a little deeper than "connections" is that people from middle and upper class backgrounds are socialized to know how to speak to the class of people who are the gatekeepers in the industry, the managers, executives, A&R, producers come from the same upper class background and they...speak the same code. Or, even down to shared experiences of, say, going to tennis camp as a kid. So, even if there wasn't a previously established connections to the people who hand out opprountinties, there is still a cultural connection.
Yes!! Generational wealth is way more than just assets!!
Honestly no one is upset that they’re wealthy, it’s that they try soooo hard to relate to being poor to the point of “poor-baiting” they only talk about their struggles and hard work put into their success but leave out that their parents were millionaires. They always seems to have a “I had to live in a shoebox in Brooklyn🥺” story but leave out that their parents have a penthouse in the upper east side, and yes I recognize that their parents might not be as generous with their wealth but these artist frame it as if they were living in homeless shelters, starving, it’s just false and weird. It’s not that they come from wealth or even try to hide it, it’s that they actively try to portray being poor/ living in poverty before fame.
THANK YOU!!!!
EXACTLYYYY
umm I'm pretty sure many people are upset they're wealthy
Yep they try to be “the cool girl”
Exactly, I’d rather them admit that they have wealthy/famous relatives and keep it moving instead of pretending they were broke.
Tik Tok is even worse for this. I couldn’t believe when they said Charlie Demilio’s success is down to her being an ordinary girl. I was just looking at her house thinking how is that normal? Although, they do say Americans have bigger houses, so I dunno.
yeah no her house is definitely not normal
she was just middle class
Her dad is a politician
Her dad owns a marketing agency, he paid for her videos to be seen by everyone
Yeeeah, no. Not normal at all.
Virginia Woolf talked about this nearly 100 years ago in A Room of One’s Own where she says money and space will allow one to be able to be creative.
Hollywood is such an exclusive industry that doesn’t want to relinquish any fame or control. If they can keep the industry “in the family” then they never lose control or have to change the status quo.
I also thought of Yara Shahidi. her dad was Prince's photographer and her mother is cousins with Nas (the rapper) and does commercial acting herself. it's insane how much of a role this plays in people's careers.
That's the way of the world
Same with the guitarist slash. His parents were in the know with celebs as well
That’s life. Connections make a huge difference.
WHUTTTT her mom is cousins with Nas???!!! 🤯🤯
not to mention that she was able to meet and befriend Michelle Obama, who wrote her a recommendation letter to Harvard University
I think Kali Uchis is a good example, she was a normal middle class girl with their parents having 0 connections in the industry, she went to sleeping/living in her car to have one of the most Latin mainstream songs of the year, queen Karly
ALSO the Arctic Monkeys, they were normal teenagers living in a Tiny city with middle class parents and look at them now
Yeah they mostly got big initially because of the internet. And then of course they were really talented and lucky too.
yes Kali Uchis is a Self Made rich girl that don't use connections form family
Omgfacts the Arctic monkeys are a great example
@@PsychedelicFairy YES Arctic Monkeys my religion
@@dhenmarc122 she’s one of my role models honestly I love her and her music
And people say monarchy has been abolished lmao, it just moved from inheriting the right blood to the right money and connections
go to school. go to college, or at least finish school and then see what's up. don't drop out, it's literally not as easy as the media shows it to you.
this is really depressing and disheartening. we've gone our whole lives hearing about arts programs being cut from schools and it being deemed 'unimportant' and it's honestly a crime that so many kids go their whole lives with untapped talent. if not for a viable & sufficient career option, then for a genuine want for artistic potential and talent to be cultivated and shared with the world
Tin foil hat time: it's a conspiracy to defund the arts in public schools and programs so the 1%'s kids get first dibs at the auditions and tryouts.
@@fruitygarlic3601 Correct!
THIS!!
@@stephaniewozny3852 More than just trying to guarantee fame and fortune to the children of the 1%, it's more about trying to guard against unpredictable personalities, who don't have the same class allegiances, gaining a platform from which to communicate with a broad audience. The figure of someone like John Lennon, for example, from an authentically working class background who was able to use the fame he achieved to start speaking up politically and reaching millions, scared the shit out of the powers-that-be. Class mobility must not come at the expense of the stability of the overarching class order, and that definitely extends into concerns about culture and entertainment and who is to be encouraged (and not) to find success in them.
You can definitely see this phenomena in law. Students with well-off parents have a large network which equates to job connections
@Sleepy Celeste I feel like this topic applies to every job sector, we're just hyperfocused on the prestigious jobs. My friend's dad owned a fish and chip shop which he later gave to my friend. He didn't do much to earn it, it was just handed to him. The phenomena she's describing in this video is very true, but it's not a rare phenomenon, it's everywhere and in all industries/job sectors. The only thing is, some are lucky enough to be born into families that will enable them to inherit and achieve more with little to no effort.
PS. That wasn't a rebuttal against your comment, I'm in agreement with you, just highlighting another area on the same plane
It was something similar in my family. My aunt wanted her son to become a lawyer or a judge,he studied law and did very very well at it but because of no family connections he couldn't really get a job as either and now he's working as a docent at the university which is great obviously and still very,very good - but like yeah
It’s the case in any sector. If you know people it’s waaaaaaaay easier
Just growing up middle class gives you a big advantage. My sister and I are both neurodivergent and being middle class gave us some huge advantages that leveled the playing field a bit when it comes to our disabilities, like our parents being able to pay for teachers and summer school classes specializing in autism and learning disabilities. I'm convinced that if I has grown up poor, I would have dropped out of high school instead of getting my GPA turned around after attending a summer school in Seattle (and renting a place up there) and even though I'm poor now that I'm in my 30s, I know my parents would be able to help me out if I'd been denied unemployment this last year, and unlike some of my friends, me failing hard in life between mental health and financial insecurity hasn't landed me on the street... I think our system should be set up so no one lives without a roof over their head no matter what, but as it stands, I'm much luckier than a lot of people. It's easier to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" if you have a boost from having an easier childhood and early adulthood than many... given that I'm considered "very poor" as an adult away from home (and to be fair, having severe ADHD makes it hard to "adult" or prioritize or get on a regular sleep schedule), I grew up with a lot of privilege, all things considered, and I'd definitely have been on the streets at some point were it not for this.
Also I'm a graphic designer with a bachelor's in art so, uh, maybe that does say something about me.
good on you for managing to get your degree while being neurodivergent. What you said about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is very true. I'm middle class and I'm grateful to have support for liking arts. (my dad wanted to be a professional musician, but couldn't due to financial issues.)
Julian Casablancas, the holy totem of "indie" and "garage" NYC bands, is John Casablancas' son, John is known for being the creator of the term "supermodel", and also for being the manager of famous models like Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum. Oh! I almost forgot he was also the founder of the famous Parisian model agency Elite Model Management.
wow how disappointing
I think parental wealth, in addition to nepotism, outlines all a childhood environment that leads to success in that field. For example, if your dad was an engineer at Intel in the 80s, he probably exposed you to computing and engineering principles before the average kid. Your “natural talents” are more of a direct result of your environment and exposure while being void of the psychological trauma that poverty brings.
Absolutely. Bill Gates had access to computers and software that almost nobody in the world had due to his mother. He got to use all that technology and experiment with it as a teenager when almost no one had access to it and then managed to build a company because he had such a knowledge advantage
@VA we are not hating on the rich. A lot of these rich people are being described as if they built their riches up from a very low and poor starting point. People deserve to know that's not true instead of being fed lies. People should know the reality, it's as simple as that. Rich people having more access to technology and other things before anyone else does not make them more intelligent, it simple makes them more privileged and thus increases their chances of success tremendously
@selenite. unless they go completely anonymous and only contact people that they have never met and don't know who they are, they have the privilege of having their parent's network. This world is about connections and who you know and that's a fact. That's why children of celebrities can always do something in the entertainment field, even if they have no particular talent. Can't sing or act like mom or dad? No problem, become a model and you'll still be rich and famous because of mom and dad's network. IT's really not that complicated, I don't understand why regular people who will probably not make it to that amount of fortune (realistically speaking) always go so far to defend celebrities
@selenite. I personally don't think that makes them a bad person at all. You are born to whoever you are born, can't change that. But I think it's good for people to be aware when an artist comes from a background like that, so that they don't feel bad that they haven't made it yet and are aware that the other person had an advantage. For example, I want a career in fashion. So I researched various designers and took note of the ones that started from scratch, so I can observe their journey and their steps better. That gives me kind of like a roadmap, aside from the inspiration. And I stumbled on a fashion designer that seemed to be very inspiring, but her father turned out to be a billionaire. That doesnt make her bad and it doesnt make her work less pretty, but it does mean that I won't be taking her as an example and beating myself up for not making it as quick as she did etc.
You are 100% correct, especially in your example. My boyfriend's father is (was, retired now I guess) a software engineer who was born in the 50s. My boyfriend also decided to study computer science in high school because of his strong programming background during his childhood. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.
do NOT forget billie eilish, with both her parents being acting coaches and talent scouts in the industry for years. most high-profile celebrities took their classes and knew them and their children. billie is a weird case, because through this her parents were middle class, but she had the opportunity to be homeschooled and her parents focused her on singing classes, acapella and choir groups, dance lessons and trainings, etc.
edit: called her poor. meant California poor and in comparison to the talent agents and teachers that make millions, not regular poor
Interesting!! Didn’t know this :o
they have a house in la i wouldn’t call that “poor”
Billie might not have been born with a trust fund but her family was not poor
poor? dont make me laugh LMFAO
What does poor mean to you guys? I'm not from the USA, and thus not even close to LA.
Yeah that’s kinda how I grew up but definitely was just a middle class family. Was a gymnast, dancer, skater and Was in college from 4th grade up getting an associates in performing arts by high school. No scout has found me yet, though 😭
Drew Barrymore is an example of someone who slipped by without much commotion because anyone who would recognize Ethel and John Barrymore would be geriatric and probably not watching her movies.
... Also because she had a troubled childhood and got emancipated at age 14
@@headlesschicken3446 absoutely.Her personal struggles and admirable resilience gave her. 'struggle credientials'.But she IS Hollywood royalty. While we're here...the Coppolas.
Angelina Jolie too, whose beauty was honed from pubescence!
I'd like to add that the American (primarily US) standard of "middle class" affects the access of people worldwide to the arts. For context, and as an example, I'm a ballet dancer from an Eastern European country, my parents are working/middle class, we're not struggling to have food on the table, however a lot of the standards of the ballet world are too expensive for us. Tuitions for good schools can be 10k+ a year (accepting 15-18 year olds), competition fees can also start at 200-500, not including travel, accomodation, or food (major competitions are in expensive cities like NY, Paris, Lausanne, Moscow), and there's also this ridiculous standard of audition fees (you have to pay to audition, basically paying to be interviewed) that also don't include travel expenses and accomodation. Within my country these fees are in line with what the average person makes, but in the rest of Europe and America (where the bigger opportunities are) it costs so much that you can't even apply to participate in anything if you're not rich by my country's standards. We're by no way a third world country, but we're not the US, and it's ridiculous that one of the richest countries in the world has become the financial standard in the arts.
I recently read an article titled “How a 28-year-old launched a $6 million education consulting firm with just $1,500 in startup capital.” His dad? Jacob the jeweler.
Funny, makes me think that there should be something called "toxic success standards", as in making people feel like they haven't succeeded enough cause they compare themselves to people like this
Read about a 20 something year old that bought her first home and how we can do it. It wasn't until the second to last paragraph that it mentioned her parents giving her money 😐
@@nikolnolastname4473 That’s almost ALWAYS the case. Bank of mom and dad is real for lots of people.
@@shontelhorneonline 😒 I hate the come up story. I know someone that talks all the time about being poor and how proud he is of his hard work. He fails to mention his mom married rich and thats how he made it out of poverty.
Who?
Emma stone’s parents had the resources to move her to Los Angeles and undoubtedly, helped pay her living expenses while on auditions. Jennifer Lawrence’s parents had money to fly out to New York, and move her to LA once she got discovered. They also bought her an apartment in Santa Monica. Let’s not discount the fact that financial class and parental wealth overwhelmingly determine one’s success in entertainment. Thank you for this video. A lot of the classmates in my film program are people who downplay their status, which is fine, it’s none of my business, but the playing field is not level if you are impoverished. It just isn’t.
Also Weinsteins casting couch
@@alyce2684 Bingo!
Film industry is a prime example of legacy privilege
So on point. I remember that I used to think Billie Eilish was this normie kid who just broke through. I always thought she was this kid from a middle ground family. It only occured to me last year to google her parents and I found out her mom and dad work in the PR industry, the mom is into PR, the father is a graphic designer, they both own McCann. Yes, THAT McCann PR agency that is world-wide and which has offices in a shitload of countries including Romania where I live, and it's also such a well-respected and acclaimed establishment despite how much it wears down its employees (most of my friends who work in PR and that had a contract there, barely had any pulse left in them after the first 3 months because they had to work overtime to keep up with the projects' strict deadlines). And sure, she gained her popularity through her own hard work and by her and her brother's native talents and dedication to music, however how many broke kids are there that have the same native talents whose progress is slowed down so much to the point it looks like a complete stall because they can't afford X Y Z instruments or tech or lack the connections to access equipment and ways to advance their talent. Life really is a game of luck and access. I myself am somewhere towards upper middle class as I am fortunate enough to have parents willing to help me with my rent while also helping my sister with hers so that I can save enough money for an emergency fund, however instead of trying to break through my own industry, I was held back with lots of trauma and family-related drama and mental issues. I'm not making excuses for deciding that it's better for myself to take it all slowly and easily, but it is very hard to have to do with so many psychologically scaring events and having to go through a lot of healing and tyring for years to switch your perception just to be able to allow yourself to be more optimistic and to try to take more leaps in your career while being haunted by self-sabotaging mechanisms related to poor self-worth. What I'm trying to say here, sometimes it is the money, but having liberal parents that encourage you to take risks healthily and can respect your own human autonomy from an early age is a huge advantage and a total game changer. I am now playing catch-up with my peers who were raised to be independent, creative and to take risks.
Omg I feel like I could have written this. This is exactly my own life experience. It’s so frustrating and fosters a lot of resentment. I hope you’re doing well with your creative dreams now and keeping the hope alive.
@Kirsten A its not just money or the lack of. It is a lot to do with education, childhood and what your family’s mentality is overall. I wanted to point out her parents raised her well. She also comes from the owners of McCann, it doesnt even have to make them rich, but it just says a lot about what connections her parents were making before she got birthed into the world and how their connections kept evovling. McCann is the biggest PR agency with a lot of prestige to its name and many offices all around the world. U just dont make all of this happen in a few years and saying Billie didnt grow up rich has got nothing to do with what it actually takes to break into the industry. She has very supportive, extremely bright, artistically sensible parents who have a god-tier network available to them and Billie and her brother have the raw talent that fell into the right family ehich enabled them to grow artistically and to hone their skills. I have mad respect for them because we all have opportunities, regardless of scale, but what moves u and advances you is courage and the ability to not sink into self-sabotage like some ppl do. They are very inspiring people because what makes them so extraordinary is that they hsve their own de,oms too im sure, but they have demonstrated resilience by getting to this point, together.
I think you got it right with "Sometimes it is the money." The whole point is that like 90% of the successful actors and musicians are from money and have training and connections that most people couldn't get.
Also I agree with @candystore I feel like you wrote down my thoughts exactly.
I clicked just expecting an exposé of secretly rich indie artists and instead I got this amazingly comprehensive layered analysis of the industry and the way our society works. Thank you and congratulations! We live in a time and age when it's so common for people to just shove their opinions on each other faces, it's not often we get invited to talk and think about things, specially online.
I'd like to contribute to the discussion by pointing out that the super rich artists, while facing pressure, they also have access to top notch therapists and mental health help. I'm not saying this erases their pain in any way, shape, or form. I just think it's worth mentioning, specially considering how such a primary thing as medical care seems to be almost a luxury in the USA.
You pulled off that bucket hat flawlessly
The corners
Shoulda been a Kangol. Lmfao she prolly too young for that
That she did
#flawlessvictory
My first thought, lol
When I find out a celeb has rich/famous family, it kind puts a damper on how I see them...even if they're actually talented. Like Lin Manuel Miranda and Kate and Rooney Mara, Bryce Dallas Howard, Emma Stone, The Strokes, Angelina Jolie, and Miley Cyrus. It's just like starting a race and they're already halfway to the finish line. Sure they had to run and push a little to keep their lead, but the runners that had to start from the actual beginning are running with a deployed parachute and cement shoes to just make it where you started.
I agree, nowadays you don’t even need to be talented to become famous. I think that’s why I’d rather prefer actors and singers who came from wealthy families and actually have talent compared to other people who came from wealthy families and don’t have talent but still somehow manage to be well known.
They are talented but so are millions of others who didn't have their luck. The difference is just the luck.
I think the difference with Miley Cyrus is that she actually admits it
@@aidafuentesv That's true. I respect her for that, because a lot of celebrities that were in her situation will never admit that.
wait i dont get lin manuel miranda-- why is he here
Okay this made me realize how Selena Gomez worked her ass off since she was 7, like people really need to put respect on her name. I remember on one of the interviews she told how her family had no money for gas, and some days her family struggled to put food on the table. She never had it easy, and yet I see people on the internet disrespect her and make fun of her health, when all she does is mind her business and is unproblematic. She deserves so much love. The internet is crazy.
According to Tori Spelling, no one knew who she was when she auditioned for 90210, she earned the role on her own volition!
In all seriousness, I hate to say it- but no way can an actress get away looking like Tori Spelling without having influential parental connections in the industry
oh my gosh, i was thinking about her too when I was watching this!!
Same with Lewis capaldi
Always had that fantasy where my Asian parents would support my artist career just like Taylor Swift's parents did, and then I wake up and find that I'm an adult and my parents want me out of the house :')
My German parents, even if they'd had that kind of money ( which, LOLnope!), would have considered a music career a silly pipedream, too risky and tacky and not serious enough for their eldest child!
FR 😞
istg I remember when I was 12 I was literally chalking up plans to move to usa hoping to get scouted by some disney agent
Yep, her parents are really good people and they made sure to shield her back when she was young and just started in the industry. More parents that push their kids in entertainment should be like that considering how many weird people thrive in these industries
I thought asian parents don't like their kids moving out
i think one direction is good example of coming from rags to riches, they all came from working class families and had no connections going into the industry, they were extremely lucky and worked hard to become successful. all comes down to luck and being at the right place at the right time
Well they didn’t come from privileged backgrounds but working hard is a different story lol... they literally just sang their own songs. They were charming for sure but their personalities per se were sort of... bland??
@@Ana-dl7zl how someone’s personality is perceived is subjective. In my opinion, Harry’s personality isn’t that charming to me but that doesn’t make him an overall bland person to the masses
@@bluepen-5199 Sure, but the point I’m making is that they were really lucky. They weren’t even supposedly talented enough to make it as solos when in the X factor, they didn’t play any instruments (except for Niall sometimes playing guitar) write or produce their own songs, or manage any projects at all. I think it’s pretty obvious that their career was focused on superficial aspects... probably the exact reason Zayn left lol. Probably felt like a puppet.
@@Ana-dl7zl yeah I agree with this and luck plays a major part in shows like X factor and the industry is very superficial in the first place
@@Ana-dl7zl one direction was all about the looks lol. None of them were even that talented
as an upper middle class afro-caribbean British man (main breadwinner parent earning 6 figures in the noughties), I realize the advantages having musical lessons in 4 different instruments and a university education lent me. yes I did a lot of work to get to conservatoire level but having expensive lessons from top flight (sometimes celebrity) teachers was also a massive help. The internal standards description is also very much on point.
The thing is, I do not dream of being an international movie star with 38 oscars, I just want to do art for a living. It is so frustrating that art is so exclusive and I do not even have the chance to try and get into the industry, not only because of the money situation, also because of where I come from. When nepotism babies talk about “how dreams come true if you work hard enough” and how “everyone can succeed no matter where you come from or who you are” it makes my blood boil. Art, film, music, they’re the most beautiful things in the whole world and the fact that so many brilliant artsy people can’t participate in something so wonderful is such a heartbreaking thing. Of course, anyone can do art, anytime, without it being their job, but there are so many lost souls here because art is the only thing they want to do, they don’t want to have a stable 9-5, they want to live and breathe art (getting a little bit too emo sorry lol) and the fact that their inner artist has to stay buried cause of all this bs, is honestly, BS. I really hope that one day anyone will be able to really show who they are no matter what. Emo rant over, thanks byeeee xx
Success is more about who you know and not how hard you work
This is real and painful. The amount of speeches we got praising “working hard” and “never stopping” came from personalities that had an advantage & realistically could not be aware of their privilege. Because once you are aware, you know not to put struggle & success together
That’s why I sometimes doubt if hard work really does take you to success
That's what my grandma always told me.
This is so true because I've experienced this 💔
@@mindyobusiness6257 is still both, because you still need to prove yourself that you are worth their time
Nepotism/favoritism are also closely related to systemic racism and inequality. I mean think about it, rich people want their children to succeed therefore help them and those kids have a better chance of success. Nepotism is an activist issue.
Hold your leaders (and yourself) accountable. This issue is so deep. Thank you for talking about the important stuff 👏🏼
It’s not just entertainment either- getting good apprenticeships/internships can be based on who you know or your pre existing knowledge of the positions you want to obtain.
@@dnikkithatsame5990 totally true! That’s what I personally was speaking on. As a product of immigration, I have experienced this disparity first hand.
I think Nepotism and systematic racisim is a " what came first chicken or the egg" senario. They definatly influence each other but you can't combat them same way. Even if we somehow achive racial equality their will still nepotism. Just with differnt skin tones.
Look at the Smith children or Rashida Jones. Their careers were built off of nepotism despite being black. We are probobly witnessing POC dynasties being born at this very moment.
It occur in all society....homogeneous and mixed society
And it won’t disappear because you will also do the same .
If they have the talent why not ,this is how the rich keep there money and their circle ..
It’s one thing to work hard and make money it’s another to keep or retain it
Yes
Let’s not forget Angelina Jolie who was born Angelina Voigt but changed her name to distance her name from that of her father John Voigt. And that was a successful choice because she’s many times more famous than her dad now.
Nickelous Cage and Jason Schwartzman did the same thing. They’re both related to Frances Ford Coppola, but changed their names to distance themselves from his dad, but even without the last name you know his influence still opened doors for them.
As an aspiring actress and art student with no privileged background this is a harsh truth to face and breaks my heart, it’s sad to realize that is most likely one won’t make it big just because one isn’t in the right place with the right people to bring that kind of opportunity. Yet, it’s good to remain hopeful, accept that situation and be prepared. Good luck to every artist out there and let’s hope we at least get one shot in our lives. ✨
I think another, maybe less spoken of, problem of nepotism is how it affects the language of a medium (book, film, TV, whatever). When everyone in the industry knows each other, they tend to speak the same “language”, and their projected worldview gets progressively more insular and self-reflective.
Think of it this way: How many TV shows are there about Hollywood, versus how many TV shows are there about plumbing?
THIS. if I see another TV show set in LA or NY, I'm not watching, full stop. Like I feel like we get the gist lol.
Awesome point, but not the best example. Even as an ordinary person in a different country with no network or experience in Hollywood, I think: plumbing would be boring. Would plumbers be excited to come home to watch a show about plumbing?
Yeah, not the best example, but kinda gets at a simpler version of what I was trying to say, which was more about how our surroundings and circumstances filter our worldview, and that worldview will be projected through our writing. This doesn’t just apply to art, it applies to politics, education, everything.
That being said, a story about a plumber is only as boring as the author lets it be.
@@pleasedonotwatchmychannel
I was thinking of a different disadvantage to the narrow world view you were talking about. As the industry becomes a bubble of a specific kind of experience most people will never have, it can be harder for people of different backgrounds to enter this bubble. So, unless you have similar experiences with these people, it can be hard to network with them or penetrate their bubble because they share unrealistic life experiences with each other.
To add to your point. I can't be the only one who thinks its odd that so many Hollywood movies/TV shows seem to be peddling the same basic message that if what you do for a living isn't inherently creative then you must be unfulfilled and your priorities are in the wrong place. I've seen countless movies where the dad character is painted as a monster because some buisness meeting ran late and his missed his kids dance recitals. As if people don't work hard specifically so thier kids can do things like dance recitals. And just like someone who stayed up all night working on thier screen play somone can be just as dedicated and driven in thier job as a real-estate agent or a software developer.
Thats why ppl looooved the whole reality competition schtick (American Idol, The Voice, X Factor, etc) where a "nobody" goes from rags to riches. But there have only been like a handful of actually successful artists from these shows, which just goes to show that funding speaks louder than talent.
AND actually, in some cases, second place winners end up going further in the industry than their first place competitors ONLY bc they have a better income and can pay their way into the industry and basically just used the reality show as a springboard.
Some of these include:
- Britney Spears (2nd on Star Search)
- Jennifer Hudson (American Idol 7th place)
- Fifth Harmony (X Factor 3rd Place)
- One Direction (X Factor 3rd Place)
- Beyonce (+Rowland from Destiny's Child) (2nd on Star Search)
- Adam Lambert (American Idol 2nd Place)
- Olly Murs (X Factor 2nd Place)
- Carly Rae Jepsen (Canadian Idol 3rd Place)
- Christina Aguilera (lost on Star Search)
You missed Leona Lewis and Louisa Johnson. And there are others as well, but you probably missed them because they are not so mainstream.
@@xxqueenofdarkness Melanie martinez was on a show too I think, idk if she was rich before or not
@@aesyn4533 yeah, she was on the voice.
Was Jennifer Hudson wealthy before?
i feel like you somewhat miss the point of these shows (though admittedly, maybe this more applies to the Got Talent shows). These shows don't have winners who necessarily will be popular singers BECAUSE it is a lot of sob story basis. Now this is not to say that someone who wins these is not talented, or that nepotism and stuff doesn't play into it, but it is certainly another part.
this really needs to be more talked about!! it’s a reminder for us to not feel bad for not having the same results of people who have X times more resources and a big team helping them..
Calling a story about a poor girl getting rich a "Cinderella story" is very wrong. She was royalty before her stepmom went bonkers on her. She got her royal life back when a prince married her. He only married her because she was 1) pretty. 2) a royal.
Lol. I remember actually having this discussion in middle school and you’re totally right. Her dad was something along the lines of a baron I think. Not royal, but definitely cushy.
She wasn’t a royal. She was probably the daughter of an aristocrat and that’s all but usually in those times royals only married royals so it would still be weird that the prince married her.
You can't form that garage band without the garage.
True, however there's a difference between a two car garage with a bunch of storage totes with all the stuff not used and a garage so large it may as well be a house of it's own, unless it's in Kansas, big houses are cheap over there.
lol
Yep most middle class people here in europe don't even have a house for that. We live in apartments. Now tell me where the fuck am I supposed to sing, play an electric guitar or drums without pissing my neighbors off? Also not that there's room for a piano or drums in small apartments anyways. There's so much undiscovered amazing talent out there stuck in these circumstances.
You can't even sing in your house if you're poor because your parents would tell you to shut up and you'd just be pissing your family members off (because the house is just too small)
People had things to say about Blue Ivy winning a Grammy because Beyonce added her name to credits. There are many celebrities who had an easy way into show business because their parents were already famous or in the business. Connections mean a lot.
people aren’t used to black celebrities getting their careers handed to them 😭
@@somethingisnotrighthere3831 Exactly I was like yes you better have your baby sing one line & get credit in a Grammy winning song. She obviously is already a star in the making but I love seeing Bey & Jay get to give their kids everything
Eminem’s daughter was put in the Guinness World Record book at age 6 for being the youngest person credited on the R&B charts... if he can credit his daughter and she get awarded than so can Blu Ivy
Um yeah...that was "interesting" with Blue Ivy, alot of people were quite upset about her winning. I think she is a great little songwriter in the making but let's face it Momma's powerhouse backing helped alot.😎💜
@@coriannm318 Tori Spelling's father gave her roles on the shows he produced. Tatum O'Neal has an Oscar because her father gave her a role in Paper Moon. So many examples.
As my grandmother loves to say: "It's not *what* you know, it's *who* you know".
We need a society where everyone has a chance to do this - not having to worry about rent or loans or all the other crap.
Greed will always find its way in
There’s so many classist undertones in the housewives franchise.. the lack of money is always used as an insult
Honestly! Currently watching RHOBH and the nepotism + shade for levels of wealth on the show is astounding