I actually didn't mind Joker 2 being a musical, but instead of it being a 2 & 1/2 hour movie about a trial for his crimes from the 1st movie it really should have been a Bonnie & Clyde like origin story about him & Harley.
I just watched it on max.... It was a rough watch...... I zoned out towards the middle to the end.... The musical numbers drained my enthusiasm and interest out of me..
No room for that, but interesting. It seems if those hadn't seen the 1st one there still would have been some context meaning. To each their own, but it didn't feel like a recap, more so a deeper focus on daydreaming, alternate reality, unreliable narration, etc. The title itself meaning duel personality/identity seem to further represent the contradictions that come with daydreaming and mental disorder based reasoning. Harley Quinn is a contradiction herself. The song about a mountain seems to represent starting over and building something new, yet she wants Arthur to be the violent joker. Peace and war contradict one another yet occur all throughout the film. It doesn't seem this was intended to be a bonnie and Clyde type. That has been done before but could have worked as a third installment with patience and a different ending
Exactly. Like after Lee started the fire, a fight should've happened between Arthur, Lee and Jackie. Jackie gets beaten and they steal his keys and use his car to rush through the gates.
But that’s the thing: he’s NOT the joker. He’s nothing. That’s the whole point of the movie, to dismantle this whole power fantasy that people built around the first movie and hammer home that this character is just an extremely pitiful guy who lashed out for a little bit but will have no longevity whatsoever. He’s not a myth, he’s not a movement, he’s not the people’s hero. He’s just a kinda pathetic dude.
That was like the one good musical part in this entire movie because he talks about how people don't really take him seriously until he took matters into his own hands which is where the Joker part means. I think it would've worked better as a villain introduction song.
And that’s why it’s great imo. Because it totally craps all over the stupid power fantasy that people built around the first film in the most bombastic and self indulgent way possible.
44:14 yeah also people thinks that it was revealed is Heath ledger‘s joker because he has a scar on his mouth too, but it is not connected to the dark Knight
15:03 now wait a damn minute mellow 😭 merry christmas man - love to you and your family and hope all is well! one of my favourite RUclipsrs right now and 2025 only gonna get better for you 🙏
@@bethanyjayva70 Oh good...the tiktock brainrotters appear. Let my check my approved vernacular list so I don't emotionally trigger edgey 13 year olds on their iPads.
this movie was designed to punish the fans of the original. The director said he didn't like how Joker became an "alt-right icon" so he had to basically destroy their idol.
That's why the sequel was well deserved. Put this mess to rest. There is a fine line with the edgelord journey. Many found the 1st film relatable, but somehow it became a message that contradicted itself
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 the musical aspect of it just lost me. I like traditional musicals just fine, but this was so random. The fact that the whole plot was him being in jail sucked too. The performances by him and gaga were good but it wasn't enough to carry the movie imo.
This movie is a mixed bag. My favorite scene is the "The Joker" song in the court room. I think it is interesting how the foile a deux goes back and forth with Arthur and Lee. She's already unwell when she sees Arthur on TV, he brings more madness out of her, then Lee brings out more of the Joker out of Arthur, and then the madness is broken when Arthur accepts that he's not the Joker that people want him to be. Deep down, Arthur is a scared, fragile man. Lee represents the audience and rejects Arthur when he says he's not the Joker. She doesn't care about Arthur. My one big criticism is how Arthur changes after crossing Mr. Puddles and is assaulted. He never seemed remorseful. I could buy it more if it showed Arthur being medicated and coming down from his mania. The assault showed Arthur how little power he has. Also, Arthur being the inspiration for the actual Joker, that goes along with the original intention of the character Jerome in the TV show "Gotham".
you just had to be there man,, i remember watching this film in theater, big theater too and it was full of couples and mann people be walking out everytime they sing and the moment to the movie and the sound of people pissed off and dissapointed was crazy, never seen something like that ever
Bro i actually love ur editing, especially the parts where u cut yourself into the scene lol. And btw this is my first time seeing this movie and the beginning was actually pretty good.
personally, I’d just say this was just a fine movie, I don’t think it’s the abhorrent mess people made it out to be, but it’s definitely a huge step down from the first movie. i felt like this movie’s quality was damaged because of how much it’s relying on retelling the audience what happened in the first film, as if we didn’t see it ourselves. instead of growing the story, it goes for an unnecessary continuation. however, there were some really strong and colourful visuals and compelling performances from Phoenix and Gaga, and although not all of them did much for the story, I thought the musical numbers were decent enough; my favourite one being The Joker is Me.
agree but this guy hate it so much like hes so forced to hate it even its not bigdeal he complaining, he just know its hated Movie, him being mad looks like an act LMFAO.
Joaquin's shoulder is due to Sprengel's Deformity - basically when the fetus is developing the shoulder blade doesn't decent down to where it's supposed to be - thus his fucked up shoulder is even easier to see because of how emaciated he was in those scenes. Also, I am pretty much the only person who thinks this is superior to the first one AND elevated the first one out of "absolute shit" to "Not bad" to me. I accept I am in the minority here and that's A-OK.
43:04 ngl it is hands Down the most disaster movie that i never though it would get to the point where they just had to eff it up even more than it already is with this unexpected ending.☠️
42:13 I think he was heartbroken that he thought the only person that cared about him was just using him because she liked joker and he is now just realizing that so he accepted to go back
I get the ending plus the point Todd was trying to make about the fascination with Arthur/Joker in the film… just make that the first act. THEN, make the rest of the movie about how Joker is the embodiment of a mindset. Making a movie just to mess with the audience isn’t bad in practice, it’s just executed VERY poorly here. Me personally, I would have been okay if Fleck dies in the first act and a new guy takes he’s place and then by the end, another takes theirs. Imagine if they kept the trailers like they did, put the scenes in the movie as well, then BOOM the movie is complete madness with all these jokers roaming around murdering and committing heinous crimes all over the city until the proclaimed “Clown Prince of Gotham” takes rain and we never saw it coming? Either way okay movie, terrible “Joker” movie
I’ll defend any creative choice if it’s earned, justified or adds to film. The shit toward the end with the guards is unearned flat out bad storytelling and misery p*rn. You brought up American History X, a great opposite example. That scene does add a lot to that film.
Although I wasn't a fan of the musical parts, I did like the concept of the movie. The joker is what, us the audience expect from him. We want the violence, the madness etc. it's doesn't hold a candle to the first but I don't hate it. Arthur's story is just fkn sad
I been going to see movies with my mom for as long as I can remember. She sat through marvel movies that she didn’t understand , Harry Potter movies that she fell asleep to and fast and furious movies that I know she regretted taking me to see…... and this was the first movie she asked me if I wanted to leave during the movie . Not even a hour in too lol we went to chic fila after and laughed bout this shit 😂😂😂😂😂 SHIT WAS ASS
27:30 *yawn 🥱 About time we get some action lol 🤣 But fr tho mell you're lucky u didn't go to the theaters for this. I'm telling u I was fucking piss off that night 🤣🤬🤬
I was disappointed in this movie, because back in 2019 i really enjoyed the movie like i was a big fan i watched this a lot, until i hear about the 2nd i was really happy to hear, but until the movie release. And for now on i don't see Joker 2 canon to me and try to forget like it doesn't exist
My favorite aspect of this movie is that Arthur rejects the mantle by the end of it. When I see the Joker, I dont want to be sympathetic towards him at all. The Joker is a monster with irredeemable qualities, and Arthur was such a broken soul in the first film that I never wanted to see him become that kind of villain. Seeing him go back to Arthur even tho it means that everyone from both sides will hate him, made me happy at his arc. The first film was a tragic ending, and in this one I feel it was surprisingly uplifting. Definitely not a perfect film, but then again, neither was the first one.
44:14 yeah also people think it was revealed that was Heath ledger joker because he has a scar on his mouth too, but it’s not connect to the dark Knight
The first scene of the movie showed you the whole thing, Mello. Joker (The Musical One) got tired, he is after all a human so that guy who did that to the original in the last scene is Heath Ledger Joker (the serious one).
Its definitely not as bad as people make it out to be. It has some good aspects like the cinematography and the score, but it just didn't satisfy what I thought the film would deliver.
I watched it and a movie can look good, but the music, pace, and plot of the movie were trash. I went into the theatre wanting to like it too and was utterly disappointed
It tanking says otherwise. Y’all always say this when a movie gets objectively disliked and time passes. It is still a terrible movie. That is like saying Madame Web or The Marvels isn’t as bad. No. It is still bad and it tanked and was hated on for a reason. It felt like the movie was made to take the piss out of the fans who loved the first Joker.
@Destiny_sm I loved both movies. The two movies you gave as examples there were critically panned due to the fact they both were a very generic hero movie at the time when that genre had run stale. Madame web also had actual errors left in the final product. Poor dubbing of lines ext. There's a lot more nuance in this movie. It makes you think, the ending whilst not the most satisfying in a way is "a cruel joke". It takes something you love and rips it up for a cheap imitation. Good art makes you feel, I don't feel anything watching marvel generic superhero 2882281 movie. This made me laugh in bits, tear up in bits and be outraged in bits. It's a fantastic movie. You're more than welcome to dislike it, but this idea of a movie tanking meaning it doesn't get better with time is a poor take a lot of movies have done so.
I heard so many bad reviews on this movie I didn't watch it I heard bad reviews on other movies but hearing everyone even celebrities and people were bashing Lady Gaga I knew it was that bad and I said Nope not gonna watch it
I’ve never seen Mell so mad at the ending of a movie
Same here
Yeah idk how he gave it a b-
Bro got exicited at what people hated the most, gotta love him
I actually didn't mind Joker 2 being a musical, but instead of it being a 2 & 1/2 hour movie about a trial for his crimes from the 1st movie it really should have been a Bonnie & Clyde like origin story about him & Harley.
I just watched it on max.... It was a rough watch...... I zoned out towards the middle to the end.... The musical numbers drained my enthusiasm and interest out of me..
No room for that, but interesting. It seems if those hadn't seen the 1st one there still would have been some context meaning. To each their own, but it didn't feel like a recap, more so a deeper focus on daydreaming, alternate reality, unreliable narration, etc. The title itself meaning duel personality/identity seem to further represent the contradictions that come with daydreaming and mental disorder based reasoning. Harley Quinn is a contradiction herself. The song about a mountain seems to represent starting over and building something new, yet she wants Arthur to be the violent joker. Peace and war contradict one another yet occur all throughout the film. It doesn't seem this was intended to be a bonnie and Clyde type. That has been done before but could have worked as a third installment with patience and a different ending
Exactly. Like after Lee started the fire, a fight should've happened between Arthur, Lee and Jackie. Jackie gets beaten and they steal his keys and use his car to rush through the gates.
But that’s the thing: he’s NOT the joker. He’s nothing. That’s the whole point of the movie, to dismantle this whole power fantasy that people built around the first movie and hammer home that this character is just an extremely pitiful guy who lashed out for a little bit but will have no longevity whatsoever. He’s not a myth, he’s not a movement, he’s not the people’s hero. He’s just a kinda pathetic dude.
36:00 well....I can add Joker getting r@ped in prison to the list of things I never asked or wanted to see in a movie
hes not the joker
The “Joker is me” part is the best thing in this whole thing
That was like the one good musical part in this entire movie because he talks about how people don't really take him seriously until he took matters into his own hands which is where the Joker part means. I think it would've worked better as a villain introduction song.
The first film felt like a completed story too me. I didn't think it needed a sequel.
True true
Exactly. As if “The End” really means there’s more to tell. 💀
Todd Phillips wasted a budget of
$200 Million on a ginormous FU
to all the people that liked the first One
@@Kevykev2007 I love both 🤷
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402do us a favour and stop wasting our air
@@JustCrash so charming.....
@JustCrash I know, right? The first, original 2019 will always be the best one. Should have left it alone
And that’s why it’s great imo. Because it totally craps all over the stupid power fantasy that people built around the first film in the most bombastic and self indulgent way possible.
Glad my first and only time watching this movie is with you Mello
Sameee
44:14 yeah also people thinks that it was revealed is Heath ledger‘s joker because he has a scar on his mouth too, but it is not connected to the dark Knight
43:05 my rage on this movie 😂😂😂thanks for making it better
This is literally like everyone’s rage at this scene..
"What a complete and total waste of everybody's time " - Kid from Robot Chicken
15:03 now wait a damn minute mellow 😭
merry christmas man - love to you and your family and hope all is well! one of my favourite RUclipsrs right now and 2025 only gonna get better for you 🙏
“We got food or just cigarettes”. Literally me throughout the whole movie.
The cigarettes are the best storyline in the movie.
I’m sorry you watched this movie 😢
It wasn’t a bad movie but the ending pissed me off..
**pats you on head**
this is the adults section, kids table is over there with the Lunchables and reruns of Rick & Morty.
@@TheCaptainSlappy okay boomer
@@bethanyjayva70 Oh good...the tiktock brainrotters appear. Let my check my approved vernacular list so I don't emotionally trigger edgey 13 year olds on their iPads.
@@TheCaptainSlappy”this is the adults table” he’s say while having legos in his profile. You can’t make this type sht up
Have you ever seen Walk The Line (2005) where Joaquin plays Johhny Cash? He was actually singing in that.
18:18
"whos that guy"
The real joker apparently
Yeah it really is sadly
I love this reaction because this movie feels like it just Fell TF Apart... Happy Holidays Y'all!
As soon as i saw this video drop, i already knew how Mell would react to the ending
Youre one of us now. The disappointed. They had so many chances to make this movie awesome and they just intentionally nose dived it every time.
Arthur doing a whole song about him being the joker and then saying never mind 5 mins later
Closest thing I’ll get to watching this movie is your reaction, I refuse to watch it from what I’ve heard 💀
I love the first movie beyond belief and even though this movie is well made and has good shots......everything else is garbage
That dolphin was working overtime in this one
5:22 w edit 🔥 give the editor a raise fr
Please watch The Penguin, it’ll make you feel better watching that. Also in 42:05 your crash out was hilarious.
this movie was designed to punish the fans of the original. The director said he didn't like how Joker became an "alt-right icon" so he had to basically destroy their idol.
Reminds me of when the Late-Great Jimi Hendrix would light his guitar on fire.
Damn straight
If that's true then the director is weak as fuck mentally.....probably should just stay away from everyone and everything.... like a safe space.
That's bullshit. Todd Phillips never said any of that. Granted, the movie was a let down... A misguided mess.
That's why the sequel was well deserved. Put this mess to rest. There is a fine line with the edgelord journey. Many found the 1st film relatable, but somehow it became a message that contradicted itself
lol damn mell is all of us at the ending
Zazie's character never dated Arthur, he made up the whole thing up in his read remember
Legit walked out of this movie in theaters after about an hour in. I just couldn't.
@@jessielallier short attention span?
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 low tolerance for shit movies
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 low tolerance for trash.
@@jessielallier interesting 🤔 can you tell me why you thought it was?
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 the musical aspect of it just lost me. I like traditional musicals just fine, but this was so random. The fact that the whole plot was him being in jail sucked too. The performances by him and gaga were good but it wasn't enough to carry the movie imo.
This movie is a mixed bag. My favorite scene is the "The Joker" song in the court room.
I think it is interesting how the foile a deux goes back and forth with Arthur and Lee. She's already unwell when she sees Arthur on TV, he brings more madness out of her, then Lee brings out more of the Joker out of Arthur, and then the madness is broken when Arthur accepts that he's not the Joker that people want him to be. Deep down, Arthur is a scared, fragile man. Lee represents the audience and rejects Arthur when he says he's not the Joker. She doesn't care about Arthur.
My one big criticism is how Arthur changes after crossing Mr. Puddles and is assaulted. He never seemed remorseful. I could buy it more if it showed Arthur being medicated and coming down from his mania. The assault showed Arthur how little power he has.
Also, Arthur being the inspiration for the actual Joker, that goes along with the original intention of the character Jerome in the TV show "Gotham".
“ I don’t think it’s as bad as a lot of people were saying” EXACTLY it’s just kinda mid
My condolences to the time you just wasted, Mel 😢
Her name isn't Harley, in this movie, they call her Lee, that's pretty stupid.
Whoever thought this movie would be good as a musical needs to be locked up
It was fantastic
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402Me on opposite day:
@@Destiny_sm quite an immature response but you're entitled to not like it just as much as I do like it
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 it was a joke. Come on now.
@@Destiny_sm yep an immature one...🤷
Recommended Remedy: Watch The Penguin 5 more times.
you just had to be there man,, i remember watching this film in theater, big theater too and it was full of couples and mann people be walking out everytime they sing and the moment to the movie and the sound of people pissed off and dissapointed was crazy, never seen something like that ever
"please I don't want to sing any more" no literally same
This movie was a fucking disaster
Yeah man, now I get why this movie had shit reviews. It's just a boring tragic story. We wanted so much more.
The ending caught me so off guard and wow it was shocking
Bro i actually love ur editing, especially the parts where u cut yourself into the scene lol. And btw this is my first time seeing this movie and the beginning was actually pretty good.
This movie had you screaming in a way I've never seen before and you gave it a B???! 😂
B-, There's A Big Difference Lmao
Merry Christmas MellVerse
Hi mell! Love your videos and merry Christmas! Keep up the good work ❤❤❤
personally, I’d just say this was just a fine movie, I don’t think it’s the abhorrent mess people made it out to be, but it’s definitely a huge step down from the first movie. i felt like this movie’s quality was damaged because of how much it’s relying on retelling the audience what happened in the first film, as if we didn’t see it ourselves. instead of growing the story, it goes for an unnecessary continuation. however, there were some really strong and colourful visuals and compelling performances from Phoenix and Gaga, and although not all of them did much for the story, I thought the musical numbers were decent enough; my favourite one being The Joker is Me.
agree but this guy hate it so much like hes so forced to hate it even its not bigdeal he complaining, he just know its hated Movie, him being mad looks like an act LMFAO.
It's sad how even _Suicide Squad_ made better use of their Joker and Harley 🤡🃏♦️
I wanted to watch The Substance but my buddy insisted on Joker 2. Caught him playing on his phone halfway through it.
Lol 😂
43:06 you nah this man snap
I'll catch the cliff notes of this movie with you. Your sacrifice is appreciated.
Joaquin's shoulder is due to Sprengel's Deformity - basically when the fetus is developing the shoulder blade doesn't decent down to where it's supposed to be - thus his fucked up shoulder is even easier to see because of how emaciated he was in those scenes.
Also, I am pretty much the only person who thinks this is superior to the first one AND elevated the first one out of "absolute shit" to "Not bad" to me. I accept I am in the minority here and that's A-OK.
theres no fucking joker in the joker movie
27:34 Everyone is saying that this is the best scene in the movie. Facts.
Because This Is What We All Thought The Movie Would Be Consisting Of!
@@HelloMellowXVI same, when this movie was announced I thought harley & joker would make a complete chaos in gotham..
Harley Quinn was definitely just all in his head
@@chocolate-teapot she wasn't but a lot of what you saw in the movie was
Hey guys 👋🏾👋🏾 happy holidays stay safe
*Me when I sat down to watch this movie:* 36:00
"Frohe Weihnachten" from Germany. 🎄
Good reaction mell,i sorry u watched this movie as well
Merry Christmas Eve 🎅🎄🤶
This movie ending was just bad. 😂 Anyway, Merry Christmas.
0:01 ROBIN FLEW AWAY
Merry Christmas Mellow from Ontario❤❤❤
Merry Christmas MV, let’s share a painful laugh😂
Merry Christmas Mellow .🎄🎄. love ur channel and hope it'll keep growing subscribers u deserve 🥰☺️
43:04 ngl it is hands Down the most disaster movie that i never though it would get to the point where they just had to eff it up even more than it already is with this unexpected ending.☠️
Mellow screaming over this movie is sending me haha this movie made no sense
Joaquin played Johnny Cash bro can deadass sing
Merry Christmas Mellow and Happy Holidays,I’m hoping you can continue the Transformers series if you want to
AYYY MR VIDEO JUMPSCARE
42:13 I think he was heartbroken that he thought the only person that cared about him was just using him because she liked joker and he is now just realizing that so he accepted to go back
I get the ending plus the point Todd was trying to make about the fascination with Arthur/Joker in the film… just make that the first act. THEN, make the rest of the movie about how Joker is the embodiment of a mindset. Making a movie just to mess with the audience isn’t bad in practice, it’s just executed VERY poorly here.
Me personally, I would have been okay if Fleck dies in the first act and a new guy takes he’s place and then by the end, another takes theirs.
Imagine if they kept the trailers like they did, put the scenes in the movie as well, then BOOM the movie is complete madness with all these jokers roaming around murdering and committing heinous crimes all over the city until the proclaimed “Clown Prince of Gotham” takes rain and we never saw it coming?
Either way okay movie, terrible “Joker” movie
Ayyyye that clip was dope. Shout out Mr.Video!
The most disgusting thing about this is finding Lady Gaga attractive.
Mel your intros just me hittin
Get em' with the joker pumps. Bruh. What does that EVEN MEAN!? You got joker pumps too or is that unique to him?
MERRY CHRISTMAS! 🎅💖🎁🎄
1:54 me and my girlfriend didn’t even noticed … and the guy made a scar slit on his mouth..
😒
Yeah it’s truly one of the worst things I’ve ever seen
Merry Christmas y'all
I’ll defend any creative choice if it’s earned, justified or adds to film. The shit toward the end with the guards is unearned flat out bad storytelling and misery p*rn. You brought up American History X, a great opposite example. That scene does add a lot to that film.
Merry Christmas, 🎄⛄🎁🌨️🧑🎄
Also, your thumbnail is exactly how everyone felt: WTF happened to this movie?
Although I wasn't a fan of the musical parts, I did like the concept of the movie. The joker is what, us the audience expect from him. We want the violence, the madness etc. it's doesn't hold a candle to the first but I don't hate it. Arthur's story is just fkn sad
This is the only time im gonna qatch anything to do witj this movie
WTF was that ending🤦🏾♂️
I been going to see movies with my mom for as long as I can remember. She sat through marvel movies that she didn’t understand , Harry Potter movies that she fell asleep to and fast and furious movies that I know she regretted taking me to see…... and this was the first movie she asked me if I wanted to leave during the movie . Not even a hour in too lol we went to chic fila after and laughed bout this shit 😂😂😂😂😂 SHIT WAS ASS
Merry Xmas Eve Mello and Happy Holidays, My birthday is on christmas day tomorrow 🎄 and I'm fan of you and I subscriber of you
27:30 *yawn 🥱
About time we get some action lol 🤣
But fr tho mell you're lucky u didn't go to the theaters for this. I'm telling u I was fucking piss off that night 🤣🤬🤬
I was disappointed in this movie, because back in 2019 i really enjoyed the movie like i was a big fan i watched this a lot, until i hear about the 2nd i was really happy to hear, but until the movie release. And for now on i don't see Joker 2 canon to me and try to forget like it doesn't exist
When I saw that cartoonish ahh intro I knew we was in for some BULLSHIT 😂
My favorite aspect of this movie is that Arthur rejects the mantle by the end of it. When I see the Joker, I dont want to be sympathetic towards him at all. The Joker is a monster with irredeemable qualities, and Arthur was such a broken soul in the first film that I never wanted to see him become that kind of villain. Seeing him go back to Arthur even tho it means that everyone from both sides will hate him, made me happy at his arc.
The first film was a tragic ending, and in this one I feel it was surprisingly uplifting.
Definitely not a perfect film, but then again, neither was the first one.
43:15 I cant stop laughing lol 😅😅😅😅
Wishing you and your family a very merry christmas 🎄 and all the best for the new year. Take care and happy holidays 😘🏴
44:14 yeah also people think it was revealed that was Heath ledger joker because he has a scar on his mouth too, but it’s not connect to the dark Knight
"the joker is me" is my favorite
Don’t worry, I had the same reaction towards the ending. I do not like this movie.
My friend and I walked out maybe 20 minutes for it ended. Just couldn’t do it anymore.
What?? Mannn, I swear everyone hates this movie except me lol. I actually thought it was really cool
the funniest reaction ive seen in a while!
Summed up my frustration with this movie perfectly, especially with the ending 👌
The first scene of the movie showed you the whole thing, Mello. Joker (The Musical One) got tired, he is after all a human so that guy who did that to the original in the last scene is Heath Ledger Joker (the serious one).
I didn't love this movie, but I did enjoy it and I don't feel like it deserves the hate that it gets
Despite many people thinking a sequel was impossible, I truly believe a sequel could've worked. But... yeah... this isn't the version that works.
If I've ever seen a perfect example of when to use therapy, 43:05 is it.
Its definitely not as bad as people make it out to be. It has some good aspects like the cinematography and the score, but it just didn't satisfy what I thought the film would deliver.
Agreed, i hate saying it to describe the movie, but it felt like it had more style, less story.
People who said it was shit rarely watched it
I watched it and a movie can look good, but the music, pace, and plot of the movie were trash. I went into the theatre wanting to like it too and was utterly disappointed
It tanking says otherwise. Y’all always say this when a movie gets objectively disliked and time passes. It is still a terrible movie. That is like saying Madame Web or The Marvels isn’t as bad. No. It is still bad and it tanked and was hated on for a reason. It felt like the movie was made to take the piss out of the fans who loved the first Joker.
@Destiny_sm I loved both movies. The two movies you gave as examples there were critically panned due to the fact they both were a very generic hero movie at the time when that genre had run stale. Madame web also had actual errors left in the final product. Poor dubbing of lines ext.
There's a lot more nuance in this movie. It makes you think, the ending whilst not the most satisfying in a way is "a cruel joke". It takes something you love and rips it up for a cheap imitation. Good art makes you feel, I don't feel anything watching marvel generic superhero 2882281 movie. This made me laugh in bits, tear up in bits and be outraged in bits. It's a fantastic movie. You're more than welcome to dislike it, but this idea of a movie tanking meaning it doesn't get better with time is a poor take a lot of movies have done so.
I heard so many bad reviews on this movie I didn't watch it I heard bad reviews on other movies but hearing everyone even celebrities and people were bashing Lady Gaga I knew it was that bad and I said Nope not gonna watch it