You could think of this as a narrower/better shaped Cooler Master MM710/MM711 ... but with optical switches and better build quality. Definitely worth a look. Razer is dominating these days.
Rocket Jump Ninja you really shouldn't give razer ideas with "could have easily charged more for this" because we know they like money like every other company out there.
Enough said. Purchased. I love my MM710, but it does occasionally get in my way when I’m going for precise long rage shots using fingertip. Very excited to try this out.
I just bought a mini and I can say it's a fantastic mouse so far. Perfect size for my hand when using claw grip on 18.5cm hands. Super lightweight making it easy to flick and the sensor feels surprisingly nice compared to my Steelseries sensei 310. Rating: 10/10 Update May 26th - Few months of use and I'd still give it a 10/10 Update August 16th - Been using this mouse for a while now and have been nothing but pleased with it... 10/10 again Update November 7th - My mouse started to gather dust in the scroll wheel, making it do odd things like scroll backwards when going forwards. But this was no issue, blowing into the scroll wheel fixed it and everything went back to perfect condition. 10/10 Update January 31st 2021 - Liking this mouse the more I use it. 10/10 Update March 28th 2021 - yea, 10/10 BAD NEWS UPDATE - April 3rd 2021 - The scroll wheel has now begun scrolling randomly in the opposite direction when scrolling up or down. This does not happen every time I scroll but it does happen probably at least 10% of the times I do. For instance when scrolling up it does the following... ^^^^^^¥^^^^^^^^¥^^^^^ if that makes any sense. I’ve had the mouse for a little over a year, so I’m not super annoyed. No conclusion for the issue yet, there could be something stuck down there. Might take the mouse apart and when I do I’ll let you know if I fix it... As of right now, 9.5/10 April 30th 2021 - Took it apart, tried using compressed air to fix the scrolling issue. Nothing seemed to work, so I put it back together. If anyone has any fixes please let me know! Update July 4th 2021 - I still love it, no problems other than the scroll wheel. I'll probably buy another one soon... 9.5/10 Update September 17th 2021 - The scroll wheel is still randomly scrolling unfortunately, haven't been able to fix this issue as of lately. And according to a little bit of research, this is a pretty common issue among many different kinds of mice. 9.5/10 Update November 26th 2021 - The scroll wheel still randomly scrolls, though recently it's been acting properly. The issue seems to become more rare as time goes on, which is very abnormal. I took the mouse apart for some weight reduction which went really well, and I guess I might've accidentally fixed the issue. as of today, 9.75/10 Update January 8th 2022 - Still working very good scroll wheel has the same thing going on, but It's not too bad. 9.75/10 Update February 17th 2022 - (Final update coming soon...) - I just placed an order on a G wolves Hati S Stardust and depending on how that goes, my journey may be coming to an end. I'll keep you all posted and if I switch I will continue my journey on Rocket Jump Ninjas video on the Hati S. If you haven't seen that video go watch it, it's pretty funny! peace... Update April 2nd 2022 - Welcome to the end! thanks for reading, hope this helped anyone who was looking to buy a new mouse! I ordered a Hati S which still hasn't come in yet but in the meantime I bought the DeathAdder V2 mini. For me I quickly realized that the DeathAdder V2 mini is actually a better fit for my hands than the viper mini. It's a little smaller in length, the same weight, and a little wider. But overall I'm definitely noticeably better at aiming with this one because of its shape. SCROLL WHEEL ISSUE FIXED WITH VIPER MINI: I put a very small piece of paper through the hole where the mouse wheel sits on the left and the issue went away with no problem. Final Conclusion: Viper Mini, Rating: 8.75/10 Cons: -Scroll wheel jittering on my copy -Personally for me a little bit the shape Current Mouse: DeathAdder V2 mini, Rating: 10/10 Active 2022-April-2nd - - - Thanks for the kind words in the comments :)
Alan Biju the very bottom of my palm touches the mousepad which is normal for me and hasn’t noticeably affected my aim after getting comfortable with the mouse. With how small it is and it’s shape it takes time to get used to, still to this day haven’t had any issues and still love the mouse. We’ll see how long it lasts but currently this is my #1 mouse... if you have more questions let me know!
Marco Pacs I’ve never owned a G102 so I can’t say. But mice I have owned are the... Razer Deathadder Chroma, Steelseries Sensei 310 And the Razer Viper Mini (My Current Mouse). If you have any more questions let me know!
Agreed. I'm just worried they think small mice are for kids still thus we get the budget friendly version being the small one. I'll have to ask them very nicely to make a Viper Ultimate Mini.
Hey again Rocket Jump Ninja! 😀 I'm dropping a comment stemming from a conversation we had in the comment section of your MM710 review. You are so amazing at what you do brother! You were spot on with the recommendation you made to me. I've gone from the G-Pro Wired -> G305 Wireless -> MM710 -> Viper Mini. I can confidently say that I am finally home with a mouse. Each of these mice has a great shape for a similar palm/claw grip style (especially if you've got small hands like me). The Viper Mini has strong structural integrity; no creaking or inconsistent button clicks. I prefer the bigger mid-size SIDE buttons on the Razer Viper Mini over the G-Pro Wired & G305 wireless. It just seems easier to keep a secure palm/claw grip and hit both side buttons with my thumb. The side buttons on the MM710 are also great, whereas the Logitech mice side buttons seem a bit too small (still great mice overall). As for the cable, I really do enjoy the lighter, more flexible one on the MM710. However, the difference between that and the Viper Mini is so minuscule that the Viper Mini surpasses the MM710 in so many other areas. I love how easy it is to grip the sides of the Viper Mini and MM710 compared to the very slick and round Logitech mice. I do like the plastic material used for the MM710 more for gripping, but the Viper Mini overall is much more sturdy and its contours suits my hand better. The Viper Mini is much, much more aesthetically pleasing while still out-performing the others. Last, but not least, the UI...The Razer Synapse UI is so much better than the Cooler Master UI its laughable. You can still achieve all the normal functionality with the MM710 like keybinds, macros, etc. but it has no RGB lighting, which is a little nice to have even though performance is High Priority. The interface for Synapse is just way cleaner and great for players who already use Razer devices like a keyboard or headset. For $35, the Viper Mini or MM710 is a STEAL!! by comparison to the price of the Zowie mice at $60+. TLDR; buy the Viper Mini or the MM710 if you're about gaming performance! Only $35 is a HUGE steal! Sorry for the lengthy comment Rocket Jump Ninja. You put so much effort into your videos that I felt that you deserved an equally, well thought-out review. My in-game performance has increased drastically because of your videos so I owe you a great deal of gratitude. Keep it up man and thanks for finding me the right mouse! Much ❤
I was deciding on whether to get the MM710 or Viper Mini. From what you and RJN say I'll go for the Viper Mini. I can get it at just $18 I can't believe how much of a steal it is!!!
@@james3980 Hell yeah James! That's the right move. It's extremely comfortable and has a very durable feel to it. The UI for is a lot better and the side buttons are way nicer imo. Cheers! Also, a fantastic price for you!
@@badmanners619 I've been using the G305 but I really wanted to try some super light mouse and see whether the lighter really is the better. I prefer wireless because of my narrow desk, but mouse these days have soft cables and the Viper Mini is so cheap that I think it's worth trying. I have small hands and use fingertip grip so it's impossible to find a wireless mouse that suits my hand except the G305... I kinda wish there's a wireless MM710 or Viper Mini wireless
Even as someone who finally found the perfect mouse for myself in the viper ultimate, ngl, Im jealous of the RGB on the back LMAO. It's really nice to see Razer shoot for extremely competitive pricing for their products right now. 130 for the TKL board, 150 for the wireless mouse, only 40!!!!!!! for the mini, 80 for the regular. These new products seem to be TOP NOTCH when it comes to buying from a big company right now.
This is why competition is very important between businesses. If everyone is neck and neck, it will drive them to produce better products rather than just making something mediocre and making it expensive as hell.
@@Armokogames small mouse feet can be better because they offer less surface area touching your mousepad which mean there is less resistance on the feet
I REALLLLLLLY hope that Razer makes a wireless version of the mini... I really want a small rechargeable wireless (not battery powered) mouse for my tiny hands! I used to use the original wired G Pro, and when the G305 came out I was SO disappointed. I really wanted a rechargeable wireless version of that small shell, even a lithium battery makes the mouse so much heavier, not to mention unbalanced. I'm currently using the G Pro Wireless, but it's a bit too big for me. I have tiny little female hands and almost all mice are way too big for me, and after going wireless it's hard to accept going back to wired and having that drag even with a mouse bungee again. So PLEASE RAZER, be the hero us tiny-handed people need, and make a Viper Mini Ultimate for us!
I bought the Razer Viper several months ago and I liked it but for some reason I had a hard "mastering" it. I decided to buy the viper mini a couple weeks ago and I actually like the mini a lot more. I have a better grip with it and the clicks feel nicer than my viper...which feel a bit loose / mushy. My hand size is 19.5 x 9.5 so even for slightly bigger hands the viper mini is great for fingertip grip.
Razer before the viper: "It needs more rgb! These gamers love rgb! Cant you tell rgb is the key???" Aftet the viper: "i think the mouse itself might be important, lets make one that actually works"
I have a doubt and if u want to help me than plz reply In viper mini does every switches last for 50million clicks?( the extra buttons, the middle) Are all switches optical?
Bought this thanks to this channel and been using for 2 months now. The review was spot on, this mouse is just too good for that price especially for a Razer. As an ex G303(discontinued model) user, Its been a very long search of replacement for a mouse that have similar traits and I can say that I'm pretty impressed with what this mouse has to offer (still prefers G303 shape). The only difference is it is slightly narrower but its certainly adaptable. The only thing turns me down is that the sensor, the LOD is way too high for me and if I turn it down in Synapse it caused tracking issues and its so hard to get used to! And the matte plastic finish on the side not that good for mouse grip, its slippery and kinda wished razer includes rubberized grip sticker for this mouse like they do for Deathadder Mini. If Razer release a full spec-ed wireless version of Viper Mini Ultimate, they gonna be the leading company in the top tier small mouse category.
As soon as i buy my viper mini..i fix the lift off distance issue..check em on youtube..there are tons of it, just simply put a tape on the sensor right behind the dot..or u can watch it here
I bought the viper mini because of this video. Been using it a few months now and I really like it compared to the Skoll and Zowie EC I was using previously. So thank you because this is my end game mouse I think
@@Nathan-ik5hv Cable is fine, hasn’t bothered me at all. I don’t use it with a bungee either. Cable isn’t so flexible that it wiggles around everywhere so I’ve managed to lay it down in a way it doesn’t bunch up or get caught which is how I like it.
thank you so MUCH for including hand sizes in cm for your mouse reviews. so many reviewers preach the value of comfort and fit but fail to recommend what hand sizes and grip style the mouse will be good for. so KUDOS TO YOU RJN!
If they just created a wireless version of this the G305 would finally have some competition. I wouldn't mind the extra weight either 60g + 1AA Lithium
Maple Alon fedex delivered it a day early. first impressions so far: - first thing you notice is how *light* it is, like using the g305 with no battery and no cover - *very solid* mouse and feels well put together, no audible parts shaking inside - love the shape- sides have a *better grip* and ergonomic feel, and not round sides like the g pro wired/g305/g203 - slightly taller allowing my fingers to rest on the buttons more - the *white teflon feet are perfect slide* , no more tic tac sized feet of the g203/305 - higher LOD/lift off distance. probably twice the 305. actually prefer this as its easier to move around - love the *light, drag free cable* . its a cross between the thickness of the g pro wired but lighter that the g203. almost feels wireless this is just a few hours of playing, i have a feeling it might be a keeper. if i were u i'd order one on amazon now just to try it out, as it seems they are selling out quick. also amazon's return policy is ez af. feel like i should have paid the price of a g pro wired or g305. $39 it already seems like a steal.
I just love your reviews. Everything you need to know and nothing you dont. Also no long intros which i usually just skip. This mouse is probably the next mouse im going to buy.
You used to do in depth sensor testing on mice and stopped because it got repetitive (which i support). This is a sensor we've never seen though and some are skeptical so that testing would have been nice to see
Bought the Viper Mini because of your video! I did the tape trick for a less than 1 DVD lift off distance and I LOVE this mouse! Amazing for fingertip grip.
I was like 99% certain I would buy the mm710 today, and then u came out with this video arrgghhhhh. Currently using a G303 and lthough it still works I want a replacement but now the overthinking starts again .-.
Got the mm710 myself a couple of weeks ago, and it's been great so far, but at 40 bucks will probably get this too and... I don't know, use three mice at the same time. Kek.
Hey Rocket Jump Ninja, just a question regarding hand/mouse size. I've always used a deathadder, love the feeling of the mouse shape and finger indents but the rubber grips are absolutely awful. I was looking at the Viper ultimate but it has the same grips which wear over time becoming the opposite of a grip. I was wondering... I have a hand size of 20 and 10 and I remember watching a video where you said that smaller mouse help you aim better. Given the viper mini is recommended for a hand under 19, do you think I should grab one? Reason being, I wanted to try a smaller mouse and this mouse doesnt have rubber grips, which is what I'm after.
Hi RJN. Using the Viper mini right now. Packaging box has both English and Chinese language. Apparently it is CHS packaging. This is my second RVM and it has the same issue as the first one. Scroll wheel jumps in opposite direction. While scrolling up, the wheel jumps down every few scrolls. Pretty frustrated at this. Thought I share my experience. Razer did provide good switches and sensor, but provided shitty Kailh encoders. For numbers sake, been using this only for 26 days. The encoder used isn't even in Kailh's website. Probably some custom ordered cheapo. For the time being, experience has not been good. Just thought I let you know. Didn't even play online games on it, just online fps, that's it and some facebook. Since the same problem happened twice, can't be bad luck, can it? I've used my alternative Havit MS-300 for years like this and it has no scroll problems.... why do popular mice get manufactured with shit components.....?
I started with a Deathadder, the first gamer mouse I bought, man it was uncomfortable in a way that I did not recognize at that time, and I hated it but could not afford another mouse and stayed with it for some years. Then I went for the MX Master 2, great mouse, the fit was PERFECT and I didn't mind the weight, but the accuracy was too bad for gaming. I decided to go for the G502 wireless. At first, it was good. However, some months passed and I found it uncomfortable, I didn't know why, and 2 years passed. Today I understand that I have a claw grip, no palm, 19cm/9.5cm, and the Deathadder was too big for that grip, and the G502 was too heavy. I bought the Viper Mini today and I feel comfortable. I hope this lasts a few weeks or months so that I can say that I found a good fit. Edit: I have more knowledge thanks to you, and your reviews seem trustworthy. Great content!
I love this mouse, It just fits my hand perfectly (17.5cm 9cm), unfortunately the sensor rattles a bit on my unit but I'm fine with it because it's so cheap I can just buy another one if my playstyle causes it to break.
hi there rocket jump ninja. can I ask? I'm about to buy a gaming mice I used to play using the logitech g102. now I have enough funds to buy either razer viper mini or the logitech g304 (white version). Which one should I get? I'll be using it as my daily driver and mainly play FPS games I have a medium sized hand and do a fingertip palm hybrid thank you so much for the reply in the future!
@@Mike-wc3jo i do, but i prefer my ajazz aj390, a glorious gaming model O clone, so im using that instead, might give the viper mini a shot again sometime soon.
I bought this mouse for $27.20. Best purchase ever. The lighting looks great but more importantly it improved my aim quite a fair bit in modern warfare. 10/10 would recommend. The shape is perfect for my hand also it is very light making flicks easier. P.s had a deathadder elite before this one.
Ah, another person swapping from deathadder to viper. I'm also swapping between the deathadder over to the viper and it seems miles better build quality wise and just overall performance. Deathadder in comparison just seems like a bad mouse to me now because of it.
Hi rocket Jump Ninja My comment might not reach u but in case it does i just want to say thank u sooo much for helping me get a mouse that fits my budget my hand and the shape i was looking for u are absolutely the best youtube channel for me keep up the great work I really love ur reviews and thx again
My 1st "expensive" mouse. Thanks for your arm size guidelines. I bought this and fits ultra well and comfort in my hand. Its super light though (coming from 120g, 90g, now this) like sometimes i clicked, the mouse moved a bit.
The mouse that fits me the best is apparently the mm710, do you think I should go with the viper mini instead? I have small hands like 17.5 x 9 and I also would love a wireless mouse (maybe the upcoming ultimate edition) and I also have relaxed claw grip Currently I'm using the g203, I really love the bump on it, but I want to try something else (the mm710 would have been a great update cause it's similar)
I am at the exact same state of mind as you man. I have the g203 (g102) and I am deciding between mm710 (711) and the viper mini. I also love the g203 shape and ive tried the mm710 in a showroom. It felt amazingly light and I liked the buttons alot. But razer came up with a killer. For a mouse this cheap, its hard not to grab it just for the fun of it. It doesn't even have holes and it looks really sleek. I would personally probably go for the razer one.
@@colbyboucher6391 ye it runs pretty good for what the visuals are, altho for this genre u kinda want frames way above 144 for it to be maximally responsive while also going past the point of screen tearing. having separate thread input independent of frames is a great workaround if u can't run it that well, but it doesn't feel as good compared to high frames with no multithread input. if u really care about that u can still potat it up with lower render scale so u get frames galore
by far the best shape for me ever. came from a capetown and i dont regret it one bit. the capetown was great for my small to medium hand but sucked when i clawed it so i decided to buy this mouse for 30 bucks off best buy and boy this mouse was worth it it fits claw so well i dont imagine ever switching mouses until a viper mini ultimate is released
The viper mini is notorious for the scroll wheel issue. i'm on my third viper mini. Each time I go for warranty Razer swapped mine for a brand new viper mini. The issue is the scroll wheel cannot smoothly scroll up/down without lagging in the reversed direction once or twice. Really annoying.
Funny enough I've had this mouse for nearly 2 years now and I did get the scroll up/down with it lagging and going into reversed direction. That however has stopped after a few weeks and haven't had it since, this was over a year ago now.
@@Lightitupp1 Yeah I eventually gave up and got a glorious model 0- wireless, works wonderful but the software sucks on laptop (it doesn't scale right so you basically lose the ability to change any settings cause' you can't hit the "Save" button LOL), it works great. I am now using the Steelseries Prime wireless (small one), works really good too. The third viper mini: I was under the pressure of thinking I will eventually break the scroll wheel like it happened with the previous 2, so I scrolled like crazy (nothing remotely to physically harm the mouse, I just scrolled up and down really quickly with my index finger), and it started to break almost immediately. The thing with Razer is that their devices are a hit or miss, they perform really good and the buttons are nice at first, but their durability is just bad.
One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy a Viper was the ambidextrous buttons that get in the way. They solved my issue, made it smaller and lighter and cheaper. Just grabbed one.
@ it´s been 3 weeks since you commented but there is a trick to get the LOD to 1mm. just add a razer mousepad in the synapse 3 software and you can set it lower.
Just bought mine today! Really happy with it. I prefer wired mice over wireless (idk why its just me) which is why I'm okay with it being wired. Thanks for another great review!
Love your videos! :-) Looking for a new wireless gaming mouse. The Viper Ultimate seems too big for my hand! You think I should wait to see if there will be a Viper Mini Ultimate/wireless anytime soon?
I have the cooler master mm710 too, and you don’t notice the wire because it’s so good, up to you though. Also the g305 is a small, good wireless gaming mouse
@@fastandy9 i have the mm710 the buttons are so cheap it flex's while pressing it and the top shell of the buttons move those are the only draw backs in this mouse thats why im sticking to logitech G pro wired best mouse for me i play csgo
I love the Mm710. I'm still discovering my hand grip on pc mouse. I rarely ever lazy track but flicks need practise. I had no consistent grip on zowie s2 but still it started to hurt my hand.
Love mm710 and especially model O. Sadly I have limited space and a laptop so wireless is the only option for me. I have 3 of the best lightweight wireless, rzu, gpw g305. Gpw is best shape but not perfect. Would say model 0 or O-
The mm710 is yet another mouse that suffers from being too small. The shape of the mouse is the best of any lightweight mouse i have ever tried but the size of the mouse is too small so it doesn't allow you to get a stable grip...if it only was a little larger it would be the perfect mouse
Trying to test out a different mouse. Been using the Logitech G Pro (wired) since it released late of 2016. I use a claw/fingertip grip and my hand size is at a weird length of 18cm x 11cm. It's either between the Viper Mini and the Rival 3. Hope everyone is doing well and safe! Thanks Zy for all the incoming reviews. Take care my prickly pear friend :)
Thanks for this video, I had been wanting to know the size of this mouse and this had a similar size to the one I am currently using which is around $3
Haven't you noticed? All of these "reviewers" never test the sensors at all. They all love to vomit up what they're told - that every new sensor is a ToP OpTiCaL SeNSoR. Really getting sick of it. I would rather have a $10 higher price point and a better sensor for sure.
@@lizardpeter rjn is a legitimate mouse reviewer, but in this video he didnt speak about the sensor at all, except the 2cd lod, that means he didnt see other difference between the "top optical" or didnt test it properly yet
I was planning to buy this one until to see PWM 3359 sensor. It should be PWM 3360 at least ... So im waiting for Mini Ultimate if they will make a wireless one.
because he wants to keep receiving mouses and money and if he criticizes the brands they'll stop sending shit to hip. this sensor alone is a hard pass, no matter the price.
I'm on a very tight budget rn. My hands are 15.24 x 8.89 cm, very very small hands. I did research, found I think it's the G403-G405, thought about buying it, but then someone recommended me the razer viper mini. I did my fair share of research on it, found its issues and saw that razer issued a fix for some of the software based issued, and people have been giving it consistently 4.8-5 stars. After seeing this review video, I'm very confident with my decision to buy this mouse. I bought it on sale with free shipping and it's $29.54, very very affordable price for a very high rated mouse. I've been using the Deathadder Chroma v1, and I've got to say over time I've come to hate the mouse. It's so big compared to my hands, and it forces me into a very very uncomfortable palm grip. It's heavy and just overall bulky and it gets dirty really easily in places where I can't clean it. I've had it for about 5 years and the only issue I'm having durability wise is the left click is now double clicking. Out of 10, for me, I rate deathadder a 4.5/10. Too big and a very big concern for me about carpel tunnel. It hurts to use it since it's uncomfortable and I'm in general very weak so lugging a huge heavy mouse around gets super painful super fast. I didn't want to buy a wireless mouse as I actually prefer wired mice, so this seems like a solid choice. All of the click sounds are very nice, the way it seems to interact with mouse pads seems very smooth, and I'm excited to get this on tuesday January 11th of 2022. I have high expectations for this mouse and I don't think I'll be disappointed. Thank you for the review video.
for anyone here in the future with bigger hands wondering if they can use it, I have used it for many years now with 20 by 10.5cm hands while fingertip gripping, it has been the best mouse ever for me in terms of aim, I havent had any comfort issues either but that may be due to my grip style and preference to smaller mice than would be "ideal" for my hand size
Just got for 50,- euros. Still worth. Been using G203 for last 2 years. This really feels like an upgrade quality and tracking wise! The big mousefeet and buttons are amazing. Best mouse ever for small hands. It really is MINI. Not recommended for over 17 cm hands.
I’ve been using Logitech products for along time now.. keyboard, pads , mouse, just because I can’t see myself feeling good with other brand’s quality. This is the first time I feel like Razer got that spot now with this mini. But I’m also looking forward for Logitech next move, cuz their products are always consistently good for me. Waiting for a very lightweight high quality mouse that has not obnoxious RGB!
I had grip issues with mine, but Razer sells rubber grip textures that you can place on the sides and buttons. They are $10 so $50 for the mouse in whole now which still prices it under the best high end mice.
I just got mine today, and forgot all about you. coming back to check if you had review was very scary but now I am calm. and I got this at a new year discount for 29.99$
This is currently selling @ 28USD in the Philippines (Converted from Philippine Peso). Good job Razer! Meanwhile, GPUs and RAM price have increased way too much
as someone who has been using the G305 since it came out, i can tell you that the viper mini is just so much better. (especially shape. i hated the g305's curved out shape and big bulge at the back. i always remove the back cover and use it) As for the LOD, just use a clear tape and cover the area below that circular dot u see (that empty rectangle space). AND/OR use the razer synapse and set your mat to the Sphex V2 + set LOD to 1. the difference is noticeable. im still getting used to the fact that i have to get used to the wire again. and damn 61g even tho it ain't honeycomb is such a good thing. you wouldn't needa be worrying bout cleaning the insides of a honeycomb (dust, mainly where i live) and virtually no double click is so much better (main reason i changed from the g305 was cuz of the double click issue that sprung from age)
@@MrTheophilos13 tbh it's still not as bad compared to like the abyssus lineup last time. but yeah i rly wish razer could've charged extra 5bux or so for a better sensor. heck even like a 3366 or something ya know
oh man i was so confused of my hand size if this mouse will fit me or not but in 1:50 sec when i see that chat (hand size grid) I confirmed it. this is perfect for me thanks😊
I've been using HyperX Pulsefire Surge more than 1 year now and i've got it because size, it's sensor and omron switches but the mouse's shape and weight is too uncomfortable for me, a friend of mine bought Razer Viper Mini 1 month ago and i was able to check it yesterday and damn boi, it felt so nice and comfortable so i ordered today one too. Well done razer..
@@SomebodyYouUsedToKnow I do claw grip on mouses and somehow hyperx wasn't really comfortable with it, i'd say viper mini has better ergonomic shape, my viper mini got to me 2 days ago and its worth every penny, i'd never imagine a mouse could make this big of a difference
@@SomebodyYouUsedToKnow Oh plus gotta mention that switch laser techology really does work because i used to burst fire when i wanted to one tap by mistake but with this mouse it's not like that, if i tap only once i shoot only once (hyperx has omron switches xaxaxa)
I have both mice ( normal viper for around 2 years ago and now the mini ) and i love the form of the Mini model, its amazing, but the normal viper have better sensor. I really hope when Razer will create a Mini wireless version ( with the ultimate sensor ), will break the market for sure .
PROBLEM: My ring finger can't get on the side of the mouse. I use relaxed claw grip. It falls on the corner or on the right mouse button. If i force it, index finger will be stretched. I can't do that, that's uncomfortable. Can't curl my ring and little finger, that grip is uncomfortable for me. On your site, the Viper Mini is among the thinnest at 5.45cm (MZ1 5.25cm), but that's the grip width. The rest of the side of the mouse is probably _relatively_ much wider than the grip width.
Hello everyone! I've just gotten this mouse and it's absolute worth the money! The price is cheap and it fits well on my hand. When I plug the mouse usb, razer synapse shows up (razer mouse software) and the mouse software is so helpful! I really recommend this mouse for small hand users! ^^
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Please help me out with some recommendations, hands size 16.7cmx9.3cm(6.57in x 3.6in) used to have g502(perfect shape and alll but got sore hands, it was too big for me, currently using the g203, no longer sore but i dont know how to grab it, it has the shape of a relaxing hot stone so im returning it, what mice could it be for me??? Pkease help!!!
Good review I own Cooler Master MM710, Logitech 203, and now the Razer Viper Mini. It is a tie for me with the Cooler Master MM710 and Razer Viper Mini!
You could think of this as a narrower/better shaped Cooler Master MM710/MM711 ... but with optical switches and better build quality. Definitely worth a look. Razer is dominating these days.
Rocket Jump Ninja so mm711 or Razer mini which u choose please reply
When will you rewiew the G-wolves skoll and hati?
So mm710 vs Viper mini = a win for the mini but isn't it a little small for the weight?
Rocket Jump Ninja you really shouldn't give razer ideas with "could have easily charged more for this" because we know they like money like every other company out there.
Enough said. Purchased. I love my MM710, but it does occasionally get in my way when I’m going for precise long rage shots using fingertip. Very excited to try this out.
I just bought a mini and I can say it's a fantastic mouse so far. Perfect size for my hand when using claw grip on 18.5cm hands. Super lightweight making it easy to flick and the sensor feels surprisingly nice compared to my Steelseries sensei 310. Rating: 10/10
Update May 26th - Few months of use and I'd still give it a 10/10
Update August 16th - Been using this mouse for a while now and have been nothing but pleased with it... 10/10 again
Update November 7th - My mouse started to gather dust in the scroll wheel, making it do odd things like scroll backwards when going forwards. But this was no issue, blowing into the scroll wheel fixed it and everything went back to perfect condition. 10/10
Update January 31st 2021 - Liking this mouse the more I use it. 10/10
Update March 28th 2021 - yea, 10/10
BAD NEWS UPDATE - April 3rd 2021 - The scroll wheel has now begun scrolling randomly in the opposite direction when scrolling up or down. This does not happen every time I scroll but it does happen probably at least 10% of the times I do. For instance when scrolling up it does the following... ^^^^^^¥^^^^^^^^¥^^^^^ if that makes any sense. I’ve had the mouse for a little over a year, so I’m not super annoyed. No conclusion for the issue yet, there could be something stuck down there. Might take the mouse apart and when I do I’ll let you know if I fix it... As of right now, 9.5/10
April 30th 2021 - Took it apart, tried using compressed air to fix the scrolling issue. Nothing seemed to work, so I put it back together. If anyone has any fixes please let me know!
Update July 4th 2021 - I still love it, no problems other than the scroll wheel. I'll probably buy another one soon... 9.5/10
Update September 17th 2021 - The scroll wheel is still randomly scrolling unfortunately, haven't been able to fix this issue as of lately. And according to a little bit of research, this is a pretty common issue among many different kinds of mice. 9.5/10
Update November 26th 2021 - The scroll wheel still randomly scrolls, though recently it's been acting properly. The issue seems to become more rare as time goes on, which is very abnormal. I took the mouse apart for some weight reduction which went really well, and I guess I might've accidentally fixed the issue. as of today, 9.75/10
Update January 8th 2022 - Still working very good scroll wheel has the same thing going on, but It's not too bad. 9.75/10
Update February 17th 2022 - (Final update coming soon...) - I just placed an order on a G wolves Hati S Stardust and depending on how that goes, my journey may be coming to an end. I'll keep you all posted and if I switch I will continue my journey on Rocket Jump Ninjas video on the Hati S. If you haven't seen that video go watch it, it's pretty funny! peace...
Update April 2nd 2022 - Welcome to the end! thanks for reading, hope this helped anyone who was looking to buy a new mouse! I ordered a Hati S which still hasn't come in yet but in the meantime I bought the DeathAdder V2 mini. For me I quickly realized that the DeathAdder V2 mini is actually a better fit for my hands than the viper mini. It's a little smaller in length, the same weight, and a little wider. But overall I'm definitely noticeably better at aiming with this one because of its shape.
SCROLL WHEEL ISSUE FIXED WITH VIPER MINI: I put a very small piece of paper through the hole where the mouse wheel sits on the left and the issue went away with no problem.
Final Conclusion: Viper Mini, Rating: 8.75/10
Cons:
-Scroll wheel jittering on my copy
-Personally for me a little bit the shape
Current Mouse: DeathAdder V2 mini, Rating: 10/10
Active 2022-April-2nd
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Thanks for the kind words in the comments :)
You've got my exact same hand size. Do you mind if I ask whether the base of your palm/arm rests on the mouse pad when you play?
How does it compare with the G102?
Alan Biju the very bottom of my palm touches the mousepad which is normal for me and hasn’t noticeably affected my aim after getting comfortable with the mouse. With how small it is and it’s shape it takes time to get used to, still to this day haven’t had any issues and still love the mouse. We’ll see how long it lasts but currently this is my #1 mouse... if you have more questions let me know!
Marco Pacs I’ve never owned a G102 so I can’t say. But mice I have owned are the... Razer Deathadder Chroma, Steelseries Sensei 310 And the Razer Viper Mini (My Current Mouse). If you have any more questions let me know!
Is the viper mini good for a relaxed claw hand grip????
Where is the razer viper ultimate mini ? I'd buy it instantly
Agreed. I'm just worried they think small mice are for kids still thus we get the budget friendly version being the small one. I'll have to ask them very nicely to make a Viper Ultimate Mini.
Rocket Jump Ninja give us updates about ultimate please, I love wireless infinity over wired
cav is op btw
You prefer smaller mice? Love your vids btw
They will release an ultimate mini soon probably, im going to wait a few months to see if they make one
39$ for a Razer mouse ?
What world are we living in ?
they want to compete with the g203, and the 3359 is probably cheaper than the 3360, like the logitech mercury
imagine they made a Viper Ultimate Mini for like 50 or even 60. That would kill the market.
@@lime4 It absolutely would. My only issue with the Razer Viper is the side buttons.
Logitech, Glorious, Razer... gotta love the competition (and the prices!) :D
Meanwhile Zowie doing a refresh that doesn't even feature a paracord.
Will definitely have to try this one! Amazing review as always.
Tech YES City big fan mate, just had to say it due to aussie pride
A small G pro wireless is what I needed, Razer pls make viper ultimate mini, PUSH the industry
Final mouse are releasing a small wireless mouse at the end of the year. Better start saving.
@@reddd-77 who cares? Lol out with that overpriced limited garbage
@@Rasyad95 not to mention, they treat everyone like idiots -_-, but the idiots don't know they are being treated like idiots
the Viper Ultimate released a few months after the normal viper, hopefully the same case with the Viper mini
Isn't the G Pro Wireless kinda small?
Hey again Rocket Jump Ninja! 😀 I'm dropping a comment stemming from a conversation we had in the comment section of your MM710 review. You are so amazing at what you do brother! You were spot on with the recommendation you made to me. I've gone from the G-Pro Wired -> G305 Wireless -> MM710 -> Viper Mini. I can confidently say that I am finally home with a mouse. Each of these mice has a great shape for a similar palm/claw grip style (especially if you've got small hands like me). The Viper Mini has strong structural integrity; no creaking or inconsistent button clicks. I prefer the bigger mid-size SIDE buttons on the Razer Viper Mini over the G-Pro Wired & G305 wireless. It just seems easier to keep a secure palm/claw grip and hit both side buttons with my thumb. The side buttons on the MM710 are also great, whereas the Logitech mice side buttons seem a bit too small (still great mice overall). As for the cable, I really do enjoy the lighter, more flexible one on the MM710. However, the difference between that and the Viper Mini is so minuscule that the Viper Mini surpasses the MM710 in so many other areas. I love how easy it is to grip the sides of the Viper Mini and MM710 compared to the very slick and round Logitech mice. I do like the plastic material used for the MM710 more for gripping, but the Viper Mini overall is much more sturdy and its contours suits my hand better. The Viper Mini is much, much more aesthetically pleasing while still out-performing the others. Last, but not least, the UI...The Razer Synapse UI is so much better than the Cooler Master UI its laughable. You can still achieve all the normal functionality with the MM710 like keybinds, macros, etc. but it has no RGB lighting, which is a little nice to have even though performance is High Priority. The interface for Synapse is just way cleaner and great for players who already use Razer devices like a keyboard or headset. For $35, the Viper Mini or MM710 is a STEAL!! by comparison to the price of the Zowie mice at $60+.
TLDR; buy the Viper Mini or the MM710 if you're about gaming performance! Only $35 is a HUGE steal!
Sorry for the lengthy comment Rocket Jump Ninja. You put so much effort into your videos that I felt that you deserved an equally, well thought-out review. My in-game performance has increased drastically because of your videos so I owe you a great deal of gratitude. Keep it up man and thanks for finding me the right mouse! Much ❤
Great to hear, thanks for taking the time to let us know your thoughts!
I was deciding on whether to get the MM710 or Viper Mini. From what you and RJN say I'll go for the Viper Mini. I can get it at just $18 I can't believe how much of a steal it is!!!
@@james3980 Hell yeah James! That's the right move. It's extremely comfortable and has a very durable feel to it. The UI for is a lot better and the side buttons are way nicer imo. Cheers! Also, a fantastic price for you!
@@badmanners619 I've been using the G305 but I really wanted to try some super light mouse and see whether the lighter really is the better. I prefer wireless because of my narrow desk, but mouse these days have soft cables and the Viper Mini is so cheap that I think it's worth trying. I have small hands and use fingertip grip so it's impossible to find a wireless mouse that suits my hand except the G305... I kinda wish there's a wireless MM710 or Viper Mini wireless
How is it so cheap in your countrys ? Its 50$ in mine..
Even as someone who finally found the perfect mouse for myself in the viper ultimate, ngl, Im jealous of the RGB on the back LMAO. It's really nice to see Razer shoot for extremely competitive pricing for their products right now. 130 for the TKL board, 150 for the wireless mouse, only 40!!!!!!! for the mini, 80 for the regular. These new products seem to be TOP NOTCH when it comes to buying from a big company right now.
You can get a really nice tkl that is way better than razer (imo) for less than 100. But I love the viper mini.
Ikkk. My viper ultimate recently had a creaky button and I was able to get a completely new one shipped to me within 3 days for free also :D
This is why competition is very important between businesses. If everyone is neck and neck, it will drive them to produce better products rather than just making something mediocre and making it expensive as hell.
I know this comment is a year old but I got my viper mini for 30 and the huntsman TKL for 100, some insane deals out there
@@samhall9279 Viper mini even went down to 20 bucks a couple of days. Already had mine for 30 thought.
I'd love to see a video from you about Diabotikal!
Te amooo Nate ♥️
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#nategentile LOVE u
kinda wish the ultimate had the mini's feet.
It does though. They're both ptfe right?
@@jamzy3608 yeah but the mini has 2 major skates similar to zowie mice
@@Armokogames small mouse feet can be better because they offer less surface area touching your mousepad which mean there is less resistance on the feet
@@ryan0270_ preference. The small feet have more edges to get snagged. I prefer the large feat, but its all preference.
All I have to is YES
I REALLLLLLLY hope that Razer makes a wireless version of the mini... I really want a small rechargeable wireless (not battery powered) mouse for my tiny hands! I used to use the original wired G Pro, and when the G305 came out I was SO disappointed. I really wanted a rechargeable wireless version of that small shell, even a lithium battery makes the mouse so much heavier, not to mention unbalanced. I'm currently using the G Pro Wireless, but it's a bit too big for me. I have tiny little female hands and almost all mice are way too big for me, and after going wireless it's hard to accept going back to wired and having that drag even with a mouse bungee again. So PLEASE RAZER, be the hero us tiny-handed people need, and make a Viper Mini Ultimate for us!
well you can always paracord it and add a mouse bungee if you want a near wireless feel
@@onepumpman6209 smh, read his comment again...
anyone know a mouse similar to a razer viper ultimate mini? because I have a g pro wireless rn too and it reallys annoying when it doesnt fit my hand
@@tze1204 delux m800. it's a bit bigger than the viper mini but not much. the side buttons are bad though.
Damm... you know you’re livin in 2020 when Razer release products that is affordable...
40 dollars? Wow are you sure it’s not used?
BigBoi21 yes on amazon new is 39.99 and used is 34.99
$56 in Europe, and that's way to expensive for this when it doesn't even have rubber grips sides and can't save RBG settings to the onboard memory
Okay ordered mine for 40 usd
Costs 30 usd brand new in my country lol
I bought the Razer Viper several months ago and I liked it but for some reason I had a hard "mastering" it. I decided to buy the viper mini a couple weeks ago and I actually like the mini a lot more. I have a better grip with it and the clicks feel nicer than my viper...which feel a bit loose / mushy.
My hand size is 19.5 x 9.5 so even for slightly bigger hands the viper mini is great for fingertip grip.
Razer before the viper: "It needs more rgb! These gamers love rgb! Cant you tell rgb is the key???"
Aftet the viper: "i think the mouse itself might be important, lets make one that actually works"
no to rgb, yes to lightweight
Well you cannot say that wouldn't listen to the consumers.
But still they failed and made you forced to watch the defautl rainbow mode if you don't want to have Synapse installed (which You don't) :P
the viper needs more rgb honestly. i really hated replacing my lancehead with it because of how nice the rgb was on the lancehead
@@FearZe yes to both
Oh damn, razer actually did it. Finally with no rubber grip on the side, light, and small
What's wrong with the rubber grip?
@@zhast they peel off
@@siuinji3259 Huh, do they, i used a Basilisk essential with the rubber grip for 3 years, they never seems to peel off, not a single bit lol.
@@jay28_ljy Doesn't peel off on my Mamba Wireless either
I have a doubt and if u want to help me than plz reply
In viper mini does every switches last for 50million clicks?( the extra buttons, the middle) Are all switches optical?
Bought this thanks to this channel and been using for 2 months now. The review was spot on, this mouse is just too good for that price especially for a Razer. As an ex G303(discontinued model) user, Its been a very long search of replacement for a mouse that have similar traits and I can say that I'm pretty impressed with what this mouse has to offer (still prefers G303 shape). The only difference is it is slightly narrower but its certainly adaptable.
The only thing turns me down is that the sensor, the LOD is way too high for me and if I turn it down in Synapse it caused tracking issues and its so hard to get used to! And the matte plastic finish on the side not that good for mouse grip, its slippery and kinda wished razer includes rubberized grip sticker for this mouse like they do for Deathadder Mini.
If Razer release a full spec-ed wireless version of Viper Mini Ultimate, they gonna be the leading company in the top tier small mouse category.
As soon as i buy my viper mini..i fix the lift off distance issue..check em on youtube..there are tons of it, just simply put a tape on the sensor right behind the dot..or u can watch it here
ruclips.net/video/87uWdVN6190/видео.html
I bought the viper mini because of this video. Been using it a few months now and I really like it compared to the Skoll and Zowie EC I was using previously.
So thank you because this is my end game mouse I think
Is the cable good?
@@Nathan-ik5hv Cable is fine, hasn’t bothered me at all. I don’t use it with a bungee either. Cable isn’t so flexible that it wiggles around everywhere so I’ve managed to lay it down in a way it doesn’t bunch up or get caught which is how I like it.
Damn... I literally bought Viper Ultimate today! With 18.5/9.5 cm hand, I will cry if there is Ultimate Mini on the horizon.
I know that feel, I got the G305 and the MM710 was released in my country the next month
Everyone knew it was coming leaks have been out for over a week.
@@333dae I got the mm710 because the viper was too big and they release this 2 weeks later
thank you so MUCH for including hand sizes in cm for your mouse reviews. so many reviewers preach the value of comfort and fit but fail to recommend what hand sizes and grip style the mouse will be good for. so KUDOS TO YOU RJN!
If they just created a wireless version of this the G305 would finally have some competition. I wouldn't mind the extra weight either 60g + 1AA Lithium
g305 is trash. I have it and i rly dislike it: The shape is not good and the listoff distance feels rly high
@@cozmo4616 its good, its just not good for you. there's a difference, you know.
Corze Cozmo its an amazing mouse and great value for the price. Like above said, its not for YOU....
@Maple Alon i've owned the G100s, G302, G303, G Pro wired, G203, and G305 (AA lithium). I'll let you know when i get it in a few days, lol.
Maple Alon fedex delivered it a day early.
first impressions so far:
- first thing you notice is how *light* it is, like using the g305 with no battery and no cover
- *very solid* mouse and feels well put together, no audible parts shaking inside
- love the shape- sides have a *better grip* and ergonomic feel, and not round sides like the g pro wired/g305/g203
- slightly taller allowing my fingers to rest on the buttons more
- the *white teflon feet are perfect slide* , no more tic tac sized feet of the g203/305
- higher LOD/lift off distance. probably twice the 305. actually prefer this as its easier to move around
- love the *light, drag free cable* . its a cross between the thickness of the g pro wired but lighter that the g203. almost feels wireless
this is just a few hours of playing, i have a feeling it might be a keeper. if i were u i'd order one on amazon now just to try it out, as it seems they are selling out quick. also amazon's return policy is ez af. feel like i should have paid the price of a g pro wired or g305. $39 it already seems like a steal.
Thank you for the review! Very happy with my purchase :)
im glad i stopped myself from purchasing a mouse yesterday, cause im definitely getting one of these now
I just love your reviews. Everything you need to know and nothing you dont. Also no long intros which i usually just skip. This mouse is probably the next mouse im going to buy.
You used to do in depth sensor testing on mice and stopped because it got repetitive (which i support). This is a sensor we've never seen though and some are skeptical so that testing would have been nice to see
At some point the difference in sensors becomes negligible
@@333dae agreed but some testing to go against the criticism would have been nice.
Its a 3330 that has been tweaked by razer for lower lift of distance
Bought the Viper Mini because of your video! I did the tape trick for a less than 1 DVD lift off distance and I LOVE this mouse!
Amazing for fingertip grip.
I’m a surprise to no one, I would love to see a wireless version
There is the razer viper ultimate...
@@ahasankabir4922 yeah but i want a mini ultimate :)
Im really thankful for your spreadsheet on your website
I just realized what this really is. It's the Abyssus V3! It has the height, length and width of the Abyssus V2, but made into a Viper :D
:o
Spot on
I was like 99% certain I would buy the mm710 today, and then u came out with this video arrgghhhhh. Currently using a G303 and lthough it still works I want a replacement but now the overthinking starts again .-.
Got the mm710 myself a couple of weeks ago, and it's been great so far, but at 40 bucks will probably get this too and... I don't know, use three mice at the same time. Kek.
3:24 I see Diabotical! How do you find it?
its on epic games
@@mrazik9365 I think he's asking how he likes the game
Rly is it just a knock off quake
@@arloschofield5648 You say that like it's a bad thing.
@metal_ak4 Wolfenstein 3D was the first significant FPS game. Not Doom. Doom is a Wolfenstein clone if anything.
Hey Rocket Jump Ninja, just a question regarding hand/mouse size. I've always used a deathadder, love the feeling of the mouse shape and finger indents but the rubber grips are absolutely awful. I was looking at the Viper ultimate but it has the same grips which wear over time becoming the opposite of a grip. I was wondering... I have a hand size of 20 and 10 and I remember watching a video where you said that smaller mouse help you aim better. Given the viper mini is recommended for a hand under 19, do you think I should grab one? Reason being, I wanted to try a smaller mouse and this mouse doesnt have rubber grips, which is what I'm after.
one of my favorite things about this mouse is that you don't have to remove feet to open the shell
cant believe this was already 3 years ago
Sensei Raw Optic Lightweight is what we really need!
just got mine for 15 usd, incredible mouse coming from a gpw user.
GUYS ITS $30 On AMAZON rn! I originally ordered it for $40 but cancelled my order. Going to save 11 bucks!
Nice Review. thanks to another subscriber for helping me find this review from the razer viper review.
If they make it wireless = sells like hot piece of cake
cant believe this was already almost 2 years ago
Hi RJN. Using the Viper mini right now. Packaging box has both English and Chinese language. Apparently it is CHS packaging.
This is my second RVM and it has the same issue as the first one. Scroll wheel jumps in opposite direction. While scrolling up, the wheel jumps down every few scrolls. Pretty frustrated at this.
Thought I share my experience. Razer did provide good switches and sensor, but provided shitty Kailh encoders.
For numbers sake, been using this only for 26 days. The encoder used isn't even in Kailh's website. Probably some custom ordered cheapo. For the time being, experience has not been good. Just thought I let you know. Didn't even play online games on it, just online fps, that's it and some facebook. Since the same problem happened twice, can't be bad luck, can it?
I've used my alternative Havit MS-300 for years like this and it has no scroll problems.... why do popular mice get manufactured with shit components.....?
I started with a Deathadder, the first gamer mouse I bought, man it was uncomfortable in a way that I did not recognize at that time, and I hated it but could not afford another mouse and stayed with it for some years. Then I went for the MX Master 2, great mouse, the fit was PERFECT and I didn't mind the weight, but the accuracy was too bad for gaming. I decided to go for the G502 wireless. At first, it was good. However, some months passed and I found it uncomfortable, I didn't know why, and 2 years passed. Today I understand that I have a claw grip, no palm, 19cm/9.5cm, and the Deathadder was too big for that grip, and the G502 was too heavy. I bought the Viper Mini today and I feel comfortable. I hope this lasts a few weeks or months so that I can say that I found a good fit. Edit: I have more knowledge thanks to you, and your reviews seem trustworthy. Great content!
I love this mouse, It just fits my hand perfectly (17.5cm 9cm), unfortunately the sensor rattles a bit on my unit but I'm fine with it because it's so cheap I can just buy another one if my playstyle causes it to break.
hi there rocket jump ninja. can I ask? I'm about to buy a gaming mice I used to play using the logitech g102. now I have enough funds to buy either razer viper mini or the logitech g304 (white version). Which one should I get? I'll be using it as my daily driver and mainly play FPS games
I have a medium sized hand and do a fingertip palm hybrid
thank you so much for the reply in the future!
If any recommendations to pass along, would love to get this in Mercury white. Would be insta-buy.
Just paint it lol
It's cheaper now, yet it's still on your top 10. I'm kinda eager to try it now.
I
It's 20 on Amazon atm
Damn this looks like 20th mouse to my ever growing collection of mice :D Already have viper, viper ultimate and for 39 this is nobrainer
vF GodItachi well its more like an mental illness then flex 🤣
Love the review, quick and simple.
Omg i already have to much mice why did i watch this video!!!! now i want this one aswell lol
i'm an idiot, i orderd it, i bought 4 mice this month, i need help, mouse addiction.
Lmao bro same, and still going to buy the new Roccat burst pro
@@Needleskane123 lmfao i fucking bought this mouse, im a retard.
@@budgetking2591 do you like it?
@@Mike-wc3jo i do, but i prefer my ajazz aj390, a glorious gaming model O clone, so im using that instead, might give the viper mini a shot again sometime soon.
I bought this mouse for $27.20. Best purchase ever. The lighting looks great but more importantly it improved my aim quite a fair bit in modern warfare. 10/10 would recommend. The shape is perfect for my hand also it is very light making flicks easier. P.s had a deathadder elite before this one.
Ah, another person swapping from deathadder to viper. I'm also swapping between the deathadder over to the viper and it seems miles better build quality wise and just overall performance. Deathadder in comparison just seems like a bad mouse to me now because of it.
@@novanation5870 after trying to hold and move my deathadder elite around it feels heavy and cumbersome. Glad I switched.
Hey man. Would you still recommend the g305 with this being out ?
Hi rocket Jump Ninja
My comment might not reach u but in case it does i just want to say thank u sooo much for helping me get a mouse that fits my budget my hand and the shape i was looking for u are absolutely the best youtube channel for me keep up the great work I really love ur reviews and thx again
The craziest part is that I bought this mouse when it was $20 2 days ago
Been using it for a year now and i would never go back . Much better then my g305
@@damo6164 how about the LOD thing, is there any problem with u using it
@@reynardadelio8982 none whatsoever . Love the lod it’s perfect for me .
as a HUGE fan of the mm711 I'm defo checking this one out. Probs the first mouse Razer ever released I've actually been excited for.
NIIIIICE I had a feeling you’d be playing Diabotical at some point lol. Pretty fun game.
My 1st "expensive" mouse. Thanks for your arm size guidelines. I bought this and fits ultra well and comfort in my hand. Its super light though (coming from 120g, 90g, now this) like sometimes i clicked, the mouse moved a bit.
how is it now
@@dace6 the MMB is dead about 3 months ago. I'm not using it harshly. other than that, its hard to find any mouse to replace this one.
@@dimasrahadian sorry, what’s an MMB ?
@@dace6 middle mouse button / scroll click my friend
When you're left handed and have been waiting for a smaller Viper and it finally comes.. But without side buttons on the right side :'(
Lefties dont get enough love :(
Im so pissed off
Am I the only lefty that just learned to play with it in their right hand?
@@jackfisher8966 I'm left and I play with my right hand. But I feel like I could do better with my left when it comes to trigger finger
I don‘t even use my sidebuttons xd
Thank you for review. I really really love ur review. They are very useful for buying new one.
SUBSCRIBED! 👍
The mouse that fits me the best is apparently the mm710, do you think I should go with the viper mini instead? I have small hands like 17.5 x 9 and I also would love a wireless mouse (maybe the upcoming ultimate edition) and I also have relaxed claw grip
Currently I'm using the g203, I really love the bump on it, but I want to try something else (the mm710 would have been a great update cause it's similar)
same i literally bought an mm710 yesterday lmao, not sure if i should send it back and get this (it’s cheaper too)
the viper mini is even smaller
@@Raykak maybe it's good, I mean I have pretty small hands
I am at the exact same state of mind as you man. I have the g203 (g102) and I am deciding between mm710 (711) and the viper mini. I also love the g203 shape and ive tried the mm710 in a showroom. It felt amazingly light and I liked the buttons alot. But razer came up with a killer. For a mouse this cheap, its hard not to grab it just for the fun of it. It doesn't even have holes and it looks really sleek. I would personally probably go for the razer one.
@@lonestaar5710 niceee thx for the answer :D
Edit: tell me more if u test both
just ordered one cant wait it to arrive!
The Diabotical gameplay caught me off guard. How are you finding the game so far?
I was trying to figure out what that Quake looking game was, I scrolled past your comment thinking you were calling his game play diabolical! Woops!
Not Zy, but the gameplay is buttery smooth. It needs optimization, but the core is excellent.
@@colbyboucher6391 ye it runs pretty good for what the visuals are, altho for this genre u kinda want frames way above 144 for it to be maximally responsive while also going past the point of screen tearing. having separate thread input independent of frames is a great workaround if u can't run it that well, but it doesn't feel as good compared to high frames with no multithread input. if u really care about that u can still potat it up with lower render scale so u get frames galore
@@nonsequiter5411 this game runs buttery smooth for me I think optimization is already there
This might actually be better than model 0-. As light but no holes
Any idea when this is going to release at mwave or pccasegear?
by far the best shape for me ever. came from a capetown and i dont regret it one bit. the capetown was great for my small to medium hand but sucked when i clawed it so i decided to buy this mouse for 30 bucks off best buy and boy this mouse was worth it it fits claw so well i dont imagine ever switching mouses until a viper mini ultimate is released
i just got the viper 8k and honestly it's a bit too big for my grip style...would you recommend the viper mini ?
@@rover5058 ye
The viper mini is notorious for the scroll wheel issue. i'm on my third viper mini. Each time I go for warranty Razer swapped mine for a brand new viper mini.
The issue is the scroll wheel cannot smoothly scroll up/down without lagging in the reversed direction once or twice. Really annoying.
Funny enough I've had this mouse for nearly 2 years now and I did get the scroll up/down with it lagging and going into reversed direction. That however has stopped after a few weeks and haven't had it since, this was over a year ago now.
@@Lightitupp1 Yeah I eventually gave up and got a glorious model 0- wireless, works wonderful but the software sucks on laptop (it doesn't scale right so you basically lose the ability to change any settings cause' you can't hit the "Save" button LOL), it works great. I am now using the Steelseries Prime wireless (small one), works really good too.
The third viper mini: I was under the pressure of thinking I will eventually break the scroll wheel like it happened with the previous 2, so I scrolled like crazy (nothing remotely to physically harm the mouse, I just scrolled up and down really quickly with my index finger), and it started to break almost immediately.
The thing with Razer is that their devices are a hit or miss, they perform really good and the buttons are nice at first, but their durability is just bad.
One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy a Viper was the ambidextrous buttons that get in the way. They solved my issue, made it smaller and lighter and cheaper. Just grabbed one.
what game are you playing 3:21?
It looks like a quake refresh then it is og quake
Diabotical
My s2 was feeling a bit worn out so I just searched up gaming mice on amazon and saw this for £40. To say I was shocked would be an understatement.
Do you recommend this over zowie s2? I have 17 by 6 cm hands
@ it´s been 3 weeks since you commented but there is a trick to get the LOD to 1mm. just add a razer mousepad in the synapse 3 software and you can set it lower.
@@bigpoint58 u have to buy razer mousepad?
@@sgarnev9776 no ofc not. It´s razers trick that you "have" to buy their pads but it works with anything
Just bought mine today! Really happy with it. I prefer wired mice over wireless (idk why its just me) which is why I'm okay with it being wired. Thanks for another great review!
@VALERIU SMERICA Coming from a Logitech G Pro wired, I'd say that they're pretty clicky for having optical switches
Love your videos! :-)
Looking for a new wireless gaming mouse. The Viper Ultimate seems too big for my hand! You think I should wait to see if there will be a Viper Mini Ultimate/wireless anytime soon?
Do you have to tho? The wires are super flexible and i cant feel it on my mm710 at all
I have the cooler master mm710 too, and you don’t notice the wire because it’s so good, up to you though. Also the g305 is a small, good wireless gaming mouse
@@mmiisshhaa prolly not. im in his boat as well. I just want wireless. I don't need it, mm711 cable is super flexible but im still gonna get a gpw.
@@fastandy9 i have the mm710 the buttons are so cheap it flex's while pressing it and the top shell of the buttons move those are the only draw backs in this mouse thats why im sticking to logitech G pro wired best mouse for me i play csgo
I really want them to make a razer viper mini ultimate
I love the Mm710. I'm still discovering my hand grip on pc mouse. I rarely ever lazy track but flicks need practise. I had no consistent grip on zowie s2 but still it started to hurt my hand.
Love mm710 and especially model O. Sadly I have limited space and a laptop so wireless is the only option for me. I have 3 of the best lightweight wireless, rzu, gpw g305. Gpw is best shape but not perfect. Would say model 0 or O-
So how big is your hand?
The mm710 is yet another mouse that suffers from being too small. The shape of the mouse is the best of any lightweight mouse i have ever tried but the size of the mouse is too small so it doesn't allow you to get a stable grip...if it only was a little larger it would be the perfect mouse
@@rover5058 Have you ever tried the zowie ZA series? ZA12/ZA11 are both bigger than mm710 with a similar back height/slope.
Trying to test out a different mouse. Been using the Logitech G Pro (wired) since it released late of 2016. I use a claw/fingertip grip and my hand size is at a weird length of 18cm x 11cm. It's either between the Viper Mini and the Rival 3.
Hope everyone is doing well and safe! Thanks Zy for all the incoming reviews. Take care my prickly pear friend :)
I have really small hands this is perfect
Thanks for this video, I had been wanting to know the size of this mouse and this had a similar size to the one I am currently using which is around $3
how is 3359 top optical sensor?
Haven't you noticed? All of these "reviewers" never test the sensors at all. They all love to vomit up what they're told - that every new sensor is a ToP OpTiCaL SeNSoR. Really getting sick of it. I would rather have a $10 higher price point and a better sensor for sure.
@@lizardpeter rjn is a legitimate mouse reviewer, but in this video he didnt speak about the sensor at all, except the 2cd lod, that means he didnt see other difference between the "top optical" or didnt test it properly yet
They dont test it because those new sensors are just some improvements like lower power usage and that dummy.
I was planning to buy this one until to see PWM 3359 sensor. It should be PWM 3360 at least ... So im waiting for Mini Ultimate if they will make a wireless one.
because he wants to keep receiving mouses and money and if he criticizes the brands they'll stop sending shit to hip.
this sensor alone is a hard pass, no matter the price.
I'm on a very tight budget rn. My hands are 15.24 x 8.89 cm, very very small hands. I did research, found I think it's the G403-G405, thought about buying it, but then someone recommended me the razer viper mini. I did my fair share of research on it, found its issues and saw that razer issued a fix for some of the software based issued, and people have been giving it consistently 4.8-5 stars. After seeing this review video, I'm very confident with my decision to buy this mouse.
I bought it on sale with free shipping and it's $29.54, very very affordable price for a very high rated mouse. I've been using the Deathadder Chroma v1, and I've got to say over time I've come to hate the mouse. It's so big compared to my hands, and it forces me into a very very uncomfortable palm grip. It's heavy and just overall bulky and it gets dirty really easily in places where I can't clean it. I've had it for about 5 years and the only issue I'm having durability wise is the left click is now double clicking. Out of 10, for me, I rate deathadder a 4.5/10. Too big and a very big concern for me about carpel tunnel. It hurts to use it since it's uncomfortable and I'm in general very weak so lugging a huge heavy mouse around gets super painful super fast.
I didn't want to buy a wireless mouse as I actually prefer wired mice, so this seems like a solid choice. All of the click sounds are very nice, the way it seems to interact with mouse pads seems very smooth, and I'm excited to get this on tuesday January 11th of 2022. I have high expectations for this mouse and I don't think I'll be disappointed.
Thank you for the review video.
how is it?
@@cyberyaya8483 100% worth my money, perfect for small hands
@@novanation5870 awesome, I bought it today, will be arriving in the next days. I also have a small hand :)
Maybe the only time us men can say ‘smaller is better’
for anyone here in the future with bigger hands wondering if they can use it, I have used it for many years now with 20 by 10.5cm hands while fingertip gripping, it has been the best mouse ever for me in terms of aim, I havent had any comfort issues either but that may be due to my grip style and preference to smaller mice than would be "ideal" for my hand size
Uploaded earlier than the freaking trailer lol
Just got for 50,- euros. Still worth. Been using G203 for last 2 years.
This really feels like an upgrade quality and tracking wise!
The big mousefeet and buttons are amazing. Best mouse ever for small hands.
It really is MINI. Not recommended for over 17 cm hands.
I'm actually about to jump onto the Razer bandwagon so hard, sorry Logitech
im in the same boat and i bought the 502 lightspeed just a few months ago. I think i'll have a duel mice setup with my lightspeed and this mouse
Rene Sanchez same though hahahaa
I’ve been using Logitech products for along time now.. keyboard, pads , mouse, just because I can’t see myself feeling good with other brand’s quality. This is the first time I feel like Razer got that spot now with this mini. But I’m also looking forward for Logitech next move, cuz their products are always consistently good for me. Waiting for a very lightweight high quality mouse that has not obnoxious RGB!
@@MrRogue-rb3rm I think it's only a matter of time before they release something even better
@@renesanchez2334 you bought a wireless brick, haha
I had grip issues with mine, but Razer sells rubber grip textures that you can place on the sides and buttons. They are $10 so $50 for the mouse in whole now which still prices it under the best high end mice.
Hopefully they'll make a wireless version of this. 🤣 Cause i'll buy it.
I just got mine today, and forgot all about you. coming back to check if you had review was very scary but now I am calm. and I got this at a new year discount for 29.99$
Who is still waiting for wireless?
This is currently selling @ 28USD in the Philippines (Converted from Philippine Peso). Good job Razer!
Meanwhile, GPUs and RAM price have increased way too much
It's $70 where I live.. FML.
@@your_average_cultured_dude 60$ in my country, still I am buying it.
73 ARS in Argentina
If it’s the $39 that was seen on r/mousereview it’s probably just a place holder price.
www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-viper-mini
Its the actual price.
@@Xenabeans This is absolutely nuts Razer is really killin it with this price
@@Xenabeans Aaaaand it's 50% more expensive in Europe. Thanks Razer.... 50€ means it has a lot more competition.
One of my favorite mice so far this year
This mouse lined up with my measurements to the T following the 60% rule. Can’t wait to get it tomorrow thanks for the guides Ninja!
as someone who has been using the G305 since it came out, i can tell you that the viper mini is just so much better. (especially shape. i hated the g305's curved out shape and big bulge at the back. i always remove the back cover and use it)
As for the LOD, just use a clear tape and cover the area below that circular dot u see (that empty rectangle space). AND/OR use the razer synapse and set your mat to the Sphex V2 + set LOD to 1. the difference is noticeable.
im still getting used to the fact that i have to get used to the wire again. and damn 61g even tho it ain't honeycomb is such a good thing. you wouldn't needa be worrying bout cleaning the insides of a honeycomb (dust, mainly where i live)
and virtually no double click is so much better (main reason i changed from the g305 was cuz of the double click issue that sprung from age)
I notice in mine that crappy sensor put acceleration and is jittery i blame for my choice on that old sensor instead of dm1 or hyperx or intellimouse
@@MrTheophilos13 tbh it's still not as bad compared to like the abyssus lineup last time. but yeah i rly wish razer could've charged extra 5bux or so for a better sensor. heck even like a 3366 or something ya know
oh man i was so confused of my hand size if this mouse will fit me or not but in 1:50 sec when i see that chat (hand size grid) I confirmed it. this is perfect for me thanks😊
I've been using HyperX Pulsefire Surge more than 1 year now and i've got it because size, it's sensor and omron switches but the mouse's shape and weight is too uncomfortable for me, a friend of mine bought Razer Viper Mini 1 month ago and i was able to check it yesterday and damn boi, it felt so nice and comfortable so i ordered today one too. Well done razer..
do u have smaller hands?
@@SomebodyYouUsedToKnow I do claw grip on mouses and somehow hyperx wasn't really comfortable with it, i'd say viper mini has better ergonomic shape, my viper mini got to me 2 days ago and its worth every penny, i'd never imagine a mouse could make this big of a difference
@@AKagNA Ty mate. I'll buy one too.
@@SomebodyYouUsedToKnow Go ahead you won't regret :) hf
@@SomebodyYouUsedToKnow Oh plus gotta mention that switch laser techology really does work because i used to burst fire when i wanted to one tap by mistake but with this mouse it's not like that, if i tap only once i shoot only once (hyperx has omron switches xaxaxa)
I have both mice ( normal viper for around 2 years ago and now the mini ) and i love the form of the Mini model, its amazing, but the normal viper have better sensor. I really hope when Razer will create a Mini wireless version ( with the ultimate sensor ), will break the market for sure .
PROBLEM: My ring finger can't get on the side of the mouse. I use relaxed claw grip. It falls on the corner or on the right mouse button. If i force it, index finger will be stretched. I can't do that, that's uncomfortable. Can't curl my ring and little finger, that grip is uncomfortable for me.
On your site, the Viper Mini is among the thinnest at 5.45cm (MZ1 5.25cm), but that's the grip width. The rest of the side of the mouse is probably _relatively_ much wider than the grip width.
Hello everyone! I've just gotten this mouse and it's absolute worth the money! The price is cheap and it fits well on my hand. When I plug the mouse usb, razer synapse shows up (razer mouse software) and the mouse software is so helpful! I really recommend this mouse for small hand users! ^^
Please help me out with some recommendations, hands size 16.7cmx9.3cm(6.57in x 3.6in) used to have g502(perfect shape and alll but got sore hands, it was too big for me, currently using the g203, no longer sore but i dont know how to grab it, it has the shape of a relaxing hot stone so im returning it, what mice could it be for me??? Pkease help!!!
Good review I own Cooler Master MM710, Logitech 203, and now the Razer Viper Mini. It is a tie for me with the Cooler Master MM710 and Razer Viper Mini!
One year later, they've reduced the price to 30 USD. It's even more amazing at that price. Definitely would recommend this mouse.
it's 17 dollars in sweden now