Does Onewheel's new $850+ motor actually make your GT slower?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- What happens when you stick a GT-S Series motor on a GT? They say it gives you more torque, but what happens to your top speed? Jeff tries every possible version of the GT and GT-S Series motor, hub, and stator combinations to find out the truth! Honestly, the results were a little surprising.
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My personal favorite would probably be MTE5+N52 magnet put on stock GT stator with GT battery and GTV ESC, tons torque from this set up, range is decent and cusion from 5 inch would make slow trail climb really enjoyable.
Love that you give input with the community
This is what i need !!! Hope this GTV ESC arrives soon !!!
And then send the board to Tony to test the torque 🔥
How much longer until the gtv comes out?
@@ironman6483 gtv already exists, it’s the name for a GT based vesc
Hi ,would you be able to do a torque and range test of gts motor in the gt platform ? I suspect most of us considering upgrading to the gts motor would be interested in these.. As always appreciate your well presented content. Cheers.
If only they sold modular battery’s too
The podcasts hint that they have a new board and modular battery coming soon, hopefully a collab with floatwheel…
are you dumb? a collab with floatwheel😂 LOL@@auston911
@@auston911bro what no chance they collab with float wheel
@@auston911they will never collab with floatwheel. You’re on crack lol
@@auston911 did u mean Collab with Floatlife?
Awesome video!! Definitely need to make the same but all MTE hubs, and the different magnet strengths with both GT and GT S-series swapping stators and boards
That is interesting info, however the torque increase I think is what most want to know.
Excellent video guys! One thing you should have pointed out is the impacts of this speed reduction at less than full charge. People who say "30MPH is plenty" seem to forget that at 30 percent charge top freewheel speed is only 25MPH, while nosedive speed will be even lower than that...
Totally agree with you... a video with a benchmark that would push the speed of a machine to the nosedive would allow us to know more about the real limits of a Onewheel. All this of course with the weight of the rider, the type of terrain, the wind speed etc... The problem is that the data on this limit does not exist on a Onewheel whereas on a VESC the maximum power percentage reached is measurable.
Good point! I need a lab partner here with me on these projects haha 🧑🔬
@@TheFloatLife haha I heard you guys have a new hire starting soon😛
Def not worth 950$ but cool to see. Great stats
Great breakdown of these stats. I'm a speed freak 😊🤙. I already knew in my head that the S-series motor dropped in the Gt would have lower end speed so now im happy I didn't pursue with the purchase. I'm inching closer each week to my 1k mile marker & my motor is doing great so ima keep at it & just keep advancing in other upgrades. Happy you made this video because it proved what I had already thought ✌️😎. Also just wanted to throw in a shout out to you all at the FL that I'm more than happy with my latest upgrades & even tho I've been using the Ignite hex foam over from 1Wparts I'm actually starting to really enjoy yals grip tape for some reason I just feel more locked in on my Kush 🤙. Those cold ones also a game changer in my performance 🤙. Looking forward to more business with you guys ✌️ 🤘
When those looking rings gonna be available, that's my question
That's what I'm saying
So...as much as I would love to see you guys do another video, I have a GT and GT-S with MTE hubs. Gotta charge them 100, but can get the free wheel speeds.
GT with the MTE (n48) and Enduro 555 = 33/34 MPH
GT-S with the MTE (n48) and Maxxis Rain = 41 MPH
Ran the test four times with each board to ensure consistent readings. I'm not going to swap stators around, but it was certainly interesting.
Regardless of this result, we really should see what the torque and heat differences are for the various setups, you know, for the 5% of min/max riders out there (and the morbidly curious, like me).
Curious what the range would be for GTS, GTS stator and GT hub?
More testing 🙏🙏🙏I want to see it all!!!
This video is Awesome!! This is why we need right to repair! How cool is to try all possible swaps .
I was surprised free spin speed isn't that much higher than OG pint and XR.
Where does one get that golden metal lock ring for the hub cable?
I’m a BIG fan of your content, you guys are amazing!
I would love to see a comparison between torque. I’m a big guy and I love my GT, but a bit more torque would be perfect. 🎉
would love a video of real world comparisons between the following boards...
Standard GT vs. Gt with GTS Motor vs. GT with MTE Hubs
Test types
- Off the line drag race to compare acceleration and top speeds with a rider
- Torque test on a hill or two
- Battery longevity with each board
Answer this question: For those who dont want GTS that are looking for motor upgrade solutions for the GT, what can you expect to gain from each motor in real world circumstances.
No need for the GTS, we all know that the GTS will out perform any GT variation in Torque and speed, but not in battery life.
Would love love love to see the a visual comparions of real world ride tests between your MTEs and the GTS motor.
Thinking of snagging an MTE for my GT, you should do a comparison video on the different ones of those too 🤙
This is what I was wondering too. How does MTE and various parts compare?
Got me wanting to go ride too thanks jeff
What does the S stand for? Sucker is what the S stands for... 😂
Right on, please do a speed, power and performance on the street with straight-line and hill climb and whatever else that can give a good feel for the variants.
I need one of those lock rings jeff!
Most definitely more videos like this!! MtE/6”/billet all on different kinds of variations like this video would be sweet! This is such a cool and informative video! Thank you and please, yes, more!!! ❤tfl!
ok, so we all see the leds under the kush wide. Great. Here's a few observations. It has led's therefore having the proper bottom profile for leds similar to the kush lo. It also has the same two cutouts near the tire side of the pad (for a power cable for the lights) as the kush lo. I noticed a few more things, but I don't want this comment to turn into a book, so TLDR, when is the kush wide v2 gonna drop? @thefloatlife
Thanks for all your hard work Jeff! Thermal comparisons would be interesting if you had the optics for it.
Excellent video Jeff! It would be very cool to see similar video, but measuring torque gain/loss.
I'm leaning more and more to the Cannon Core motor in an XR package. WTF's of course. . . CBXR size battery pack, and of course, VESC.
Awesome! Thanks for doing this test!
Love it. Glad I went with the billet. Great vid!!
Would love to see low speed torque tests. Especially for curb nudges and bonks.
Anything over 30 (20 really) is too aggressive for me.
MTE hub test please!
love it! test everything possible. we will watch and support!
Awesome breakdown! Would love to see some testing of that high speed setup.
GT-S= Guaranteed Tremendous Safety
You can thank Larry David for that one 😂
Thank you for your service. This experiment has sold me on stronger magnets for an aftermarket hub
How you passed over the “tired” pun after being exhausted replacing tires I’ll never know
More onewheel competitions also,those were dope!
A video on thermal performance of MTE hubs would be interesting
Having coffee &watching
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@TheFloatLife my GTS with N52 MTE just did 38mph at 64% battery, so I guess it’d be pretty close to 40mph at 100%, virtually matching stock hub
Yeah that's expected. After further research, I think GT-S hub is N52 also
@@TheFloatLifejust tested it at full charge, 41mph
Good stuff. I feel thermals vs weight is the biggest challenge on VESC. Love the data.
NICE little dub there
thanks. 👍
we need a range test on the GT with the GTS motor on it....
GET THIS MAN A MUG!!!
We need to see these bad bois in action. #WeNeedPart2
Brilliant OneWheel science! In God we trust, all others must bring data. This was so informative.
Should make a video with the best GT setup for speeds under pushback and up to pushback, cuz I’m not tryna go stuid high speeds. 20mph fine with me 😂
As in the best low end torque, for getting speed.. crushing trails., ect
You should do this with MTE!!
I dig all the videos you guys make. Keep them coming. Still wanted to see how the most expensive board ever performed. Because I'm pretty much doing that build through you guys. Thanks again! ❤
that pad on the back is fire ngl might convice me to get one like that
Jeff, where’s your lab coat bro? You went full science mode. Great video as always!!!
Thank you for that. I think we were all wondering
So not sure if the coldones would impact the test but I really enjoyed the data
Been waiting on this and expected this outcome, I love the actual tests w numbers 💪🏻 thanks guys would love to see the mte n42 on a gts and gt to see those top speeds and if they could be faster then stock maybe the mte/+tire would be lighter then gt hubs/+tire and have a lighter rotational mass and have even higher top end
The metal lock ring tho 👀
More floatwheel videos and talk about future accessories?
It means if you have a gts and a gt in a way you can use W’s. Because you can just put the wheel on and not update the software on your GT. So you could make two hybrid boards if you just swap the wheels definitely coolest video ever!! Opened up a few things. I wasn’t sure of thank you, Jeff and TFL crew!!
Float on brother🎉
please temperature performance
That 44mph freespin sound is insane
Someone tuned a vesc to freespin I think 150mph a year or two ago
I think his motor broke shortly after but it sounded like turning on a band saw 😂
@@kylevanness6182 WOOOW SHREDDING!!
You wanna count/compare the polepairs/magnet pairs?
The speed schould not change at the same controller when the Motor has the same number of polepairs. Therefor I guess thats the difference.
Interesting
I got a GT. We have pushback..
so make the ride you got till pushback better. So yes slower with GT-S motor but the ride to pushback would be more enjoyable. Not worth $911 tho..
guess I stay GT 🤙
I been a little down since the GTS came out. Seemed like alot of people got really good all the sudden.. like that new board keeps you up or something 😮 there are so many different mods to going fast and getting max stabilization that I just don't know what to do. It feels like I just bought a GT but now it seems like the worst board out but it gets more distance then any others. Kinda irritated with all the changes coming out right after buying a GT... I am not a happy onewheelrr. Hopefully I get my feels back into the sport some how soon. Definitely don't want to spend that money on a GTS..
Euc Veteran lnyx and never look back!
Dude go away w that. Just because you aren't up to it doesn't mean everybody else shouldn't be@TheHitman-
@@milesonewheelwinter Why would I go away with anything? Who are you to tell me that 🤔 I can talk because I have experience with ow probably alot more than you and I'm showing new better options if you don't like it you can just keep your mouth closed...that is an option. Hey like share and subscribe buddy. 😉
It seems like the magnet difference is really the only benefit from the GTS motor on the GT. Without additional voltage, it doesn't seem like you can take advantage of the improved GTS stator. This has been super informative for me, since I was leaning toward the GTS motor purchase for the additional torque (I weigh 200lbs and broke my leg on the GT last year...). Now I'm wondering why I should pay for that when I can get a 5" MTE hub with improved magnets PLUS a new Enduro for less, especially since it seems like the magnets are the only thing I'm paying for with a new GTS motor....
Thoughts?
You're thinking exactly what I was thinking
6ou are always better moving in a direction away from future motion. Personally if I were in your shoes I'd get the mte and a tire for less.. its imo a no brainer as it shows the lengths future motion will go to to decieve its customers.
@@TheFloatLife BTW, I love my Kush Wide front footpad- you guys need to start making those so I don't have to mad scientist that shit on my own....
@PrestigeWheelRide whats the gtv? Im assuming gt vesc ? . The motor windings of the gt and gts are the same iirc. Check ohms through both, if the resistance is the sane then so are the windings, i cannot remember at this time .
Hey Jeff, can you measure the GT stater from the end of the axle to the tip of the plug and then measure the GTS stater the same way curious to see the differences in length because you mentioned that they were different
Would love to see a gt with gts motor vs a gts race, torque and range test! I know its alot, but please guys 🤗
GTS would be way faster. GT with GTS motor is slower than a regular GT at the top end.
@@TheFloatLife did you test for torque and range. I dont really mind for top speed, bit if I dont get more torque or lower range than a gts I might just sell my gt and get the gts
Jeff, you're awesome.
Does anybody know what are the dimensions of these stators?
Hey floatlife Do you prefer lowboy footpad or flat kick footpads? Thanks
I’m a big guy and I’m really curious if a GTs motor in my GT would help me get up and down more hills more safely.
it'll prevent overheating. Mild torque gain.
Turns out I shoulda paid more attention in Science class, so many numbers and variations :)
Thats interesting, but what about on a Pint X?
Cool stats that’s was great!
Whats going on with FLoatwheel?
Interesting.... because my stock GT freespins @ 38mph with close to 3500 miles on it. 🤔
I don't ride my OW for speed, so the top end data is kind of lackluster. The torque is the key bit I would want to know if spending that $900 is worth it or not. I only ride my GT at around 19-20mph, which it can already do, I just don't like how paranoid I have to be of nose dives because the torque isn't there. Especially offroad.
Shoot, you could spend way less than that, swap to a N52 MTE and gain all the sidewall AND all the torque of the GT-S motor swap. That's the big brain move right there.
@@TheFloatLife What’s the difference between the grizzly steel and grizzly ceramic bearings?
It would be great to see more trials with GTs motor in Gt. Max speed without load is not informative. Tork, max distance, battery life. If it works, 850 $ instead of 3200$, is a pretty good deal. Keep going, guys!
Just swapping for a GT-S motor on a GT makes it nowhere near a GT-S
But that would make a good video.
Hill climb, and range
That Floatwheel tyre tho 😄
Can I put it on my XR+?
ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE MAGNETS. Magnets play a huge roll in torque but what you aren't talking about more than saying windings is the KV.. the GTS stator is definitely a lower KV hence the more Voltage. Anytime you use more voltage you lower the kv.. that's why the gts runs cooler.
Hi jeff , is it possible to pit gts motor in xr . I am an old floater , and my xr is diying
Lmao that outro.
very interesting
More tests!
How many times did have to say "GT hub" so that it matched for the dubbing? Haha
I finally switched to euc, what was i waiting for? 😂No more struggling with fm, veteran lynx people!
Question what that your first Euc and if it is how was learning on it
nah shoulda went VESC 🎉
@@jaefrmbk2k I've ridden a vesc wheel ill pass.
@isaachaley1397 About a day or so. If you can skate you can do it easy.
Could this be done to a pint x or pint?
Imagine spending $900 to make your board SLOWER??!?! ... this shows just how far future motion will go to decieve their customers and take your money. I would not trust them at all that the new motor will increase torque on the gt, though in electrical theory it would work as the voltage going into the kotor is the same.. JEFF test the resistance between the + and - motor connections on gt and gts motors. Im gonna bet that the resistance is greater on th.e gts, which is exactly where your voltage is going, it could still in theory have more torque ( more windings = greater ohms )
Can you put it on a XR??
Will putting the guys motor in make the range lower. I assume because it has more torque it would draw more power
WTF are you doing 😂 intro came in 100 mph
$850?!? No not worth it!
R.I.P mugs emotions 😂
#first and also my prediction is: there are probably better places to put $850
How about with the MTE? On the GTS?
Maybe the next video!
I knew it. I hit a much higher top speed my FIRST week on a GT than with my GT”s” will ever give me😢.
That doesn't make sense.
@@thewheelneil1379which, stock GT or “s” will hit a higher top speed? I’m not so inclined to find out these days but I think my suspicions are clear sir
@@shadmcdaniel4184 GTS is much faster and safer at higher speeds than GT.
TSL. The Science Life
Magnets! How do they even work?
Thermal testing please! I can only imagine that 44 mph motor literally cooking
Great video Jeff!
I tested my GT with the MTE N48 and got 34 mph! 🤩