IHOPKC Interview: Allen Hood & Samuel Hood, Mike Bickle's Right Hand Man Speaks Out

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @matti7777777
    @matti7777777 Месяц назад +66

    We left IHOP in pain after 7 years, feeling prophetically manipulated to stay and unseen and unappreciated for our sacrifice and investment. But on the morning of, on a whim, we called Allen, told him we were leaving, and he immediately invited us and our children to his home so he could pray a blessing over us before we left. It was Easter Sunday, and Samuel, you and your brothers and your parents came around us and it still makes me cry to this day that somebody in that whole dysfunctional, toxic place was a true father, a faithful shepherd of the sheep. I'm still unraveling a lot from our time there, and wrestling with what I believe, but Allen, you and Rachel lived out the true gospel, rooted in robust Christology and passion for scripture, acted out in works of kindness and love to the people around you. Your repentance and contrition makes that genuine faith even more clear, and it's healing to me even now, 12 years later. Thank you so much. -Song Harri

    • @kerstinhaack9600
      @kerstinhaack9600 Месяц назад +3

      That is so beautiful! I'm sorry you experienced all that. We can relate. I remember being pregnant at the same time as you and Julia Weissman in 2009.

    • @allentlee1
      @allentlee1 Месяц назад

      Hi Matt! This is Allen! Was in fire in the night with you way back … in 2003!

  • @MandsU28
    @MandsU28 Месяц назад +121

    I was at IHOP for two years in the very beginning. Was there for the transition from little trailer to the strip mall. I had a class with Allen Hood and have loved his heart ever since. I was SHOCKED when I heard the allegations against MB. I was resistant to believe it in the beginning. Then I saw Allen’s statement and I knew. Allen is full of integrity and kindness. He doesn’t know me from adam but he left a lasting impression.

    • @thevillageofnod
      @thevillageofnod Месяц назад +9

      Things were different in the beginning. I only came from out of town for conferences or would stop overnight and attend the church passing through on cross-country trips. I came out to work at IHOPKC a year ago just as the news broke and also didn’t believe at first. But they handled everything so badly and I was abused by management so I flipped pretty quickly.

  • @Cleveland781
    @Cleveland781 Месяц назад +33

    This was a tremendous interview. As a former pastor’s wife of 32 years, my husband and I left pastoral ministry after serving 17 years at our last church. It ended with the exposure of the lead pastor’s sexual abuse of multiple women. My husband was his assistant pastor for almost 3 years. Since the first woman came confidentially to us, we became the “whistleblowers” and both we and the victims were the ones attacked by the board, denomination, and many in the body. I appreciate Allen allowing his son to be honest about what he lived through. This broadcast was good for us to watch and led to good conversations and confirmation of the stand that we took and the great loss that we experienced. Thank you all!

    • @sunsetstormx
      @sunsetstormx Месяц назад +4

      I'm so sorry about what you went through at your church. This is definitely the best interview about what happened that I have ever watched. The most honest and transparent. I hope to see many more people come up and speak the truth the way they are with such humility. You can see the brokenness in their eyes.

  • @angeladave5771
    @angeladave5771 13 дней назад +2

    I’ve always loved and respected Allen Hood! And now I respect him even more! May God bless him and his family ❤

  • @kirsten-seanmark6635
    @kirsten-seanmark6635 Месяц назад +17

    Wow this was so healing and helpful! We love the Hoods, amazing family and thank you for demonstrating humility and vulnerability ❤ My husband and I were at Forerunner during that time and when Allen left we started feeling like something was off- it took us several years to leave for another church, but we could sense something was going on, but honestly we felt a little crazy, this put some of the pieces together ❤❤
    Samuel, relate so much on adapting to ordinary life. It’s like detoxing from the constant spiritual highs my whole childhood/teen/young adult years from endless conferences, fasts and next earth shattering event we all needed to be at. Learning to love the simple, quiet life with my husband, children and community and learning to find Him in the quiet places outside prayer room and church buildings ❤

  • @establish82
    @establish82 Месяц назад +39

    It was refreshing to hear Allen apologize as well as give such beautiful words of wisdom and grace.
    I was one who left IHOP years ago disgruntled by what I was watching, namely the spiritual pride, the lack of accountability, the cliquyness, mimicry, etc
    So I won’t lie in saying I feel somewhat vindicated to hear Allen owning up to that, but what really impresses me is that he actually seems wiser and smarter for it now. This can accept and can actually see myself wanting to trust him again.

    • @ToTheEnd1
      @ToTheEnd1 Месяц назад +1

      If I can reply to you... Give yourself more time to trust him again. Not bc he may be untrustworthy, but bc we all need to learn to stand back and WATCH the fruit for an extended time, DISCERN, and not put that pressure on him.
      Just my opinion. God bless.

  • @DebraCossu
    @DebraCossu Месяц назад +33

    This is so healing for my heart. Thank you for presenting truth. Being there from 2002-when truth came forward in 2023, I do still cry to this day, and I miss the reality, of the dream, for which I moved here….

    • @gabbyheusser6503
      @gabbyheusser6503 Месяц назад +4

      I’m so sorry. I’ve experienced this just in a different church and movement
      Praying for you❤

    • @sherylturnerturner1352
      @sherylturnerturner1352 Месяц назад +4

      Oh my Debra, you were there for two decades giving you heart and life to the Lord. I'm an outsider when it comes to IHOP, had I not been Canadian I would have moved there in the same season. I just wanted to validate your ministry to the Lord and how difficult this all must have been for you and your family this last year.❤

    • @believer4eternity
      @believer4eternity Месяц назад +2

      Hold on close to only Jesus❤🙏🏽He knows everything....He can handle this for you if you can not..I pray that you will recover and will be comfort by HolySpirit His real love and comfort.

    • @rebekahchalkley3252
      @rebekahchalkley3252 Месяц назад +4

      You were there for the Lord. And just because it blew up in your face because of someone else's sin, does not mean that your service to the Lord was faulty or tainted. Sorry this happened and affected you. May the Lord be with you as you grieve and rebuild.

    • @allthings2allmen
      @allthings2allmen Месяц назад +2

      I remember you answered my e-mail prayer request 10 or so years ago. I was going through a very hellacious season and it was all I could do to just get some sort of prayer agreement. Well, your response at the time seemed less than comforting to be quite honest. I felt rebuked for being persistent. I don't want to elaborate on negatives, but I want to say that God did show up and give me strength. I am not bitter at you or anyone else that was there at ihop. I think God gave me a glimpse into operations so that I could pray for you! I was in rather a quandary for a time though I must tell you!

  • @mikehendon687
    @mikehendon687 Месяц назад +11

    Thank you Allen Hood. Your honesty and humility has so much healing in it. None of us have escaped this unscathed. For when one weeps we ALL weep. There is so much healing needed and being received. There is so much to learn from all of this. All I know is that water always flows to the lowest and avoids mountains. Our pride is being brought low and it is for the purpose of purity and cleansing. Thank you Allen for your heart. May we all humble ourselves accordingly.

  • @JustinSnyder-zq1tc
    @JustinSnyder-zq1tc Месяц назад +16

    This is the best interview hands of not only regarding IHOP, but the prophetic/apostolic/word of faith/charismatic/pentecostal cultures…

  • @lindag9975
    @lindag9975 Месяц назад +30

    Thanks Blaise, Christina, Allen, and Samuel. Great conversation. Authentic.

  • @JulieMeyerMinistries
    @JulieMeyerMinistries Месяц назад +30

    This is such a wonderful interview. Thank you Alan and Samual for your honesty and vulnerability.

    • @allthings2allmen
      @allthings2allmen Месяц назад

      Julie! I very much enjoyed your recent interview with John Collins on The Branham Research Podcast!

  • @cindyroot9944
    @cindyroot9944 8 дней назад +1

    Such a good comment about holding the elders responsible. Just watching MANY leaders being exposed doing and saying unacceptable things makes anyone wonder about governing the church. Thank you AH.

  • @MSA-uj7cp
    @MSA-uj7cp Месяц назад +17

    Allen Hood is not afraid to show emotion... he comes across as authentic and humble. So glad I listened to this.... did not realise that MB did stuff like 6 hour bible reading etc. Can see how he was able to dupe sincere christians

    • @joshockey7447
      @joshockey7447 7 дней назад

      I don’t think a person can perform as a leader for so long justifying sin, and have the Spirit of God in them.

  • @michamay755
    @michamay755 Месяц назад +5

    This interview was very raw and very real. I am 60 years old and I taught my children the "last days" things that were so prevalent back then...not with IHOP, I never got into that, but other similar movements. I've had to apologize to my children too, for teaching them things I don't believe today...like keeping secrets in the church and not going to authorities. That was the times we lived in...and praise God, we are coming out of that patriarchal order. I also appreciate Allen bringing on his son in this interview and his son, Samuel, asking hard questions. God bless you all.

  • @antgaylez8387
    @antgaylez8387 Месяц назад +7

    There are different personalities of people in this world. He is a kind, hard-working man who was taken advantage of. His eyes are wide open now and truly repentant. Thank you for speaking out.

  • @Peacefuljoy222
    @Peacefuljoy222 Месяц назад +13

    Thank you Samuel for sharing your perspective and experience! It’s good to hear how the children can be affected in situations like this . So helpful! Please tell Samuel thank you for me!

  • @InaPema-e1i
    @InaPema-e1i Месяц назад +17

    This man of God is HONORABLE! It is painful to see him being crucified for someone's elses sins.
    But I believe his integrity has qualified him to be used in a wonderful way in the most profound of the church reformation that we will be forced to imbark onto.
    We will go bak to the book of Acts church to do ordinary and extraordinary life TOGETHER HUMBLY.

  • @larsnstace
    @larsnstace Месяц назад +3

    My family and I were part of those early trailer days. The description of the hunger and adoration of Jesus is right on. We gathered bc we loved Jesus and we wanted to know him in his beauty. It was a body of believers who were just lovers of Jesus growing in who He was. I believe knowing that is important bc we weren't there for any leadership personalities. We were drawn by the Holy Spirit and hungered to know him more. It was palatable. It was precious. IHOP began to slowly change. It's my heart to relay we were there for Jesus, gathering to worship and adore him. It really was a precious time. We would take our toddlers and just be with each other in his presence. ❤ I believed I was training up my little army to love and adore Jesus bc He is worthy. We were practicing g the presence of the Lord, sitting at His feet. There were many sincere ppl.

  • @PretzelBubba
    @PretzelBubba 29 дней назад +2

    1:38 "If it conforms me to Christ, I want it." Wow. Out of the heart, the mouth speaks, Allan. In the midst of so much darkness being exposed right now, this one statement shines and gives hope. Thank you.

  • @MrVonprior
    @MrVonprior Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Allen! My kids were used, abused and pushed aside when they were hurting, questioning, 3 of them have NOT recovered… leaving the faith! I have repented for ever bringing them or encouraging them to go to Kansas City and IHOP!!! Devastated!

  • @maracorley8762
    @maracorley8762 Месяц назад +6

    Thank you all for a honest beautiful conversation.

  • @denalowry8710
    @denalowry8710 Месяц назад +57

    I knew a person who worked there and they had to go to clothes closets and food banks to make it. I never liked how IHOP did not help their staff

    • @couragedearheart2951
      @couragedearheart2951 Месяц назад +3

      Yep. Exactly.

    • @wlknonsonshine
      @wlknonsonshine Месяц назад +3

      I think that happens more often than not.

    • @sherylturnerturner1352
      @sherylturnerturner1352 Месяц назад +10

      I presumed someone like Allen Hood would have made a decent salary, dear Lord Mike sure pulled the wool over and made millions in the mean time. Utterly wretched.

    • @ue9r6
      @ue9r6 Месяц назад

      I live like that in real life....our treasures are not on this life

    • @grannyinthesticks
      @grannyinthesticks Месяц назад +4

      ​@sherylturnerturner1352 the executive team was paid, but the "intercessory missionaries" had to come up with their own support, yet they were called "on staff"

  • @UniquelyEnrique
    @UniquelyEnrique Месяц назад +10

    I was on staff 2003-2004. I’ve since learned, like many others, like Samuel is saying, that for a married man, the family is the domestic church, our primary vocation.

  • @alenawedlock5278
    @alenawedlock5278 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you Allen and Samuel. I think this is the number one interview that has come out of the aftermath of IHOP that should be watched. I live in New Zealand and was originally impacted by Mike Bickle & IHOP around 2005 till 2023. Even though I live far away, I have identified with the initial reactions of disbelief, then the shock of the truth etc. I always said things like, thank goodness for Mike Bickle and IHOP. I held him up in such a high place. I listened to the prophetic history. I would talk about IHOP to everyone. I am one of the thousands of followers of Mike & IHOP from across the globe that has been so impacted and grieved by what has transpired with Mike and from IHOP. It's hard to know where to go from here when the thing you thought was the ideal is in fact a hot mess.

  • @pam6243
    @pam6243 Месяц назад +7

    This was a wonderful family discussion. So important and healing. Thank you for bringing this.

  • @m_nicolay
    @m_nicolay 25 дней назад +1

    What Samuel said about finding peace in the enjoyment of life, because He is in it all…. Man. I want to cry. I’ve been walking this out too.

  • @nadinejo7036
    @nadinejo7036 Месяц назад +8

    I honor Allen Hood. A true man of God.

  • @sarahb2798
    @sarahb2798 Месяц назад +3

    Wow. Samuel’s honesty (in front of his Dad) as a PK, was amazing.

  • @AlisonLam
    @AlisonLam Месяц назад +4

    This video has expressed and clarified what I experienced for years in international missions and also house of prayer involvement. What Allen and Samuel share has struck something so clearly in my heart and I feel another deep level of healing from those excruciatingly intense years of ministry. I'm floored. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing this

    • @888hereandnow
      @888hereandnow Месяц назад +1

      Amen!Similar response for me as well!!❤

  • @boomboombelle
    @boomboombelle Месяц назад +6

    Wow, that’s Samuel Hood! I love that father and son shared … I remember Allen talking about his sons with so much love… and hearing Samuel pray at One Thing… speaks volumes how they’re walking through this…

  • @ConnieRowell-sh4gc
    @ConnieRowell-sh4gc Месяц назад +22

    Allan Hood you can’t blame yourself because imo you were just as manipulated and gaslit like so many others. You just happened to wake up, so thankful for you. Mike Bickel used people to build his personal empire.

    • @kerstinhaack9600
      @kerstinhaack9600 Месяц назад +3

      I think he can - not to blame himself, but to acknowledge his part in a system that both victimized him and made him a perpetrator on some level. Although he always went against the flow of the culture, his actions prove it then and now

    • @gabriellealberg6218
      @gabriellealberg6218 Месяц назад +2

      Respectfully, he was a leader in a cult. He was a major figure in an abusive system. While he was manipulated and gaslit, I remember when he left. I so wish he had been honest about why he and so many others were leaving. I think it’s fair to take responsibility for leading people, especially young, impressionable students, in a bad direction. I regret my time at ihopu, and if ANYONE had been honest and blown the whistle then, I would have been spared years of my life.

    • @daletrade5178
      @daletrade5178 21 день назад

      allen himself was ihop celeb.... willingly, for many many years

  • @iankristofer1
    @iankristofer1 Месяц назад +12

    At an 1:34:55 when you reveal thee simplictiy of loving our wives and family I was so happy you said it. Our family is witnessing a true movement among an illiterate unreached people group and one of the foundations Holy Spirit has had us serve them in is that statement. They have discovered that God's entire narriative since the garden is what you said, and we are witnessing it break cultural strongholds and bring healing to all areas of life!

  • @kimmbr22
    @kimmbr22 Месяц назад +1

    Allen Hood’s repentance and contrition is really bringing healing to my heart for the pastor that abused me and did not repent. God is so good and even though I’m older than Allen Hood, he has such a father’s heart and I pray others can feel the same way. I have heard Allen speak at a local church but this openness has been very touching. Thank you Allen and Samuel. ❤

  • @tammaree1889
    @tammaree1889 Месяц назад +9

    Thankyou for having Allen and Samuel on.

  • @sixfootfive6556
    @sixfootfive6556 Месяц назад +18

    48:30 He mentions that they had an elitist spirit. That is something that always bothered me about IHOPKC. That they had special knowledge that other Christians didn't have.

    • @RCGWho
      @RCGWho Месяц назад

      When we would visit, you could sense the cliquishness. But that's pretty normal for churches, sadly.

  • @ConnieRowell-sh4gc
    @ConnieRowell-sh4gc Месяц назад +16

    So many of us were just duped. I agree with that comment, we have to forgive ourselves!💛

    • @PeacefulWarrior000
      @PeacefulWarrior000 Месяц назад

      Duped by what? I never really felt that. I grew immensely in my walk with Jesus. Not all of us had a bad experience.

  • @reborso4911
    @reborso4911 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you all. I never went to, bought a book or promoted IHOPKC. My exposure was basically GodTV. However this is such an instructive thing to follow with you guys. The work you are doing Blaise & Christina
    to keep this in the light is so instructive. And the now, reflection, processing and openness of Alan and Samuel…thank you both. And Samuel you are a real asset in this as well. So keep doing all this good, yet hard work guys.
    Walking this out may become the REAL LEGACY OF ALL THE ERRANT IHOP MESS!!!
    🕊️🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻🕊️

  • @brandonholmes4302
    @brandonholmes4302 17 дней назад +1

    Allen, you may not remember a young lady named Paula Anne....she had a radical encounter with Jesus, pulled out of meth and prostitution and attended there in about 2010-2011...she ultimately had an incredibly negative experience there...but spoke so highly of your kindness...she said you were the only man who didn't make her feel dirty...you also say next to her on a plane and shared your testimony and it gave her great hope...

  • @smwall4Him
    @smwall4Him Месяц назад +1

    So grateful. Needed this. Was just taking classes on line for years but strangely still affected and realized I also have a dysfunctional version of honor. Hood family- thank you.

  • @holdontohope7286
    @holdontohope7286 Месяц назад +14

    There is nothing authentic about mike bickle. Allen hoods son is so sweet and I love how he spoke. His perspective.

  • @shylacash6220
    @shylacash6220 Месяц назад +4

    Allen is a beautiful man of God who is willing to search his heart and allowing the Lord to search His heart. He acknowledges weaknesses and flaws and listens to heavy feedback. He focuses on Jesus and reflects honestly. This is extremely commendable. Not perfect, but willing to look at the hard stuff with Christ at the center. Praise the Lord, He moves through our brokenness if we let Him.

  • @boomboombelle
    @boomboombelle Месяц назад +2

    Awww I’m so thankful for Allen Hood and him pastoring people through this… this is a lifeline for many, I think… thank you for leading with integrity

  • @jwamadea
    @jwamadea День назад

    This is an incredible interview. Thank you for doing this.

  • @allthings2allmen
    @allthings2allmen Месяц назад +15

    Keep folks that are still there @ Ihop in your prayer. I am sure there are many different reasons why some stay and others leave. I perceive there are ones that do truly just love Jesus and aren't there because of Bickle or any mandates etc. Some have a grace that just goes right on through the fire. It doesn't mean they are ignorant or insensitive to the issues there. I ask God to give more strength wisdom & clarity & bind folks together in real love as they worship.

    • @54725
      @54725 Месяц назад

      Do you know why they are there. It’s because of the hypnotic worship which has a demonic power to manipulate and keep them there. I say this with experience. Please do your research on that. That’s why they need to be physically present as much as possible in that venue. Same is the case with Bill Johnson’s school of ministry. Usually when they leave and the effect wears off, they begin to love the real Jesus and His Word.

    • @PeacefulWarrior000
      @PeacefulWarrior000 Месяц назад

      Amen

  • @servantofmessiah1071
    @servantofmessiah1071 Месяц назад +6

    Samuel, thank you for sharing. I hear your heart.

  • @agear2
    @agear2 Месяц назад +15

    I remember being in Kansas City for an interview at the medical centre in 2003 and I visited a good friend and a prophetic type who was at Bickle/Floyd's church. He was not respected and often ignored. I remember coming up with him to meet several big wheels in the church after the service and they essentially ignored him. He later warned me (and I am sure people in the that church) that the IHop model was inherently unstable and unrealistic. According to him, people needed to learn how to pray and hear God and interface with the world as Jesus did and not in this weird, hyper-charismatic and monastic way. It's not a surprise that it came down. I now live in Charlotte, and we have another big named ministry being judged by God in a similar way. The Lord is clearing the deck and removing all the charlatans with their tents off the mount of transfiguration before He returns.

  • @stephaniejoy2496
    @stephaniejoy2496 Месяц назад +1

    Allen’s son is awesome! Thank you for sharing your perspective and modeling having hard conversations with your family. Well done young man!

  • @Heidi-zu1nm
    @Heidi-zu1nm Месяц назад

    Such a thoughtful and thought provoking conversation! Please have father and son back. As someone that raised kids in a high control cult like church for 16 years, I loved hearing both experiences and perspectives as someone healing from abuse and trauma, and rebuilding relationships with my adult kids that went through their own abuse and trauma. One of your best discussions, thank you for your diligent hard work to give voice to those that need to be heard. This is healing.

  • @jessicamarshall1756
    @jessicamarshall1756 Месяц назад

    Allen and Samuel, thank you for having this conversation together publicly. This has been very healing to see-space for the younger generation to share painful truths and the older generation to own mistakes and grieve them.

  • @888hereandnow
    @888hereandnow Месяц назад +1

    This was great,thankyou to all of you for being so transparent ,real! Truly hits the heart and brings a sense of validation in areas of my journey.Truly a source of healing !Christine you are a mama Lion ! 💥God bless yous all!!

  • @ue9r6
    @ue9r6 Месяц назад +36

    I had always felt I missed out in the best of what God had for me when I couldn't travel to Kansas City for a gathering that many in our church were touched by.....just realized tonight that I was spared and even maybe protected from this vipers den of descruction and deception.....great podcast, to the glory of our King imo

    • @PeacefulWarrior000
      @PeacefulWarrior000 Месяц назад +3

      I mean, you can call it that. I had a good experience there and really grew in my relationship with Jesus. Not all of us were abused.

    • @sunsetstormx
      @sunsetstormx Месяц назад

      Amen....

    • @HeartAliveToday
      @HeartAliveToday Месяц назад +1

      Absolutely! You were protected and spared.

    • @davidwireback8621
      @davidwireback8621 Месяц назад

      @@PeacefulWarrior000 I believe you when you said you had good experiences there. I don’t know the time. When you were there. But I must ask how can you get into worship and praise and no one there picks up that something is wrong. That’s a question you needneed to have answered😊

    • @PeacefulWarrior000
      @PeacefulWarrior000 Месяц назад +1

      @@davidwireback8621 I actually always knew something was off with him. I never saw him worship. Maybe he did and I just didn't see it, but I really looked for that. I didn't see him sing or show any type of outward expression of worshiping the Lord. I always thought that was odd.

  • @jenniferpackard6558
    @jenniferpackard6558 Месяц назад +2

    This was very healing for me. I never really fit into the culture at IHOP, but I loved the purpose and leaders there. I really needed to hear from Allen, and hear from Samuel too. Thank you all!!!

    • @charliesmith12345
      @charliesmith12345 Месяц назад

      Allen and Sam are big time deceivers too.

    • @barbarapelnar4571
      @barbarapelnar4571 28 дней назад

      ​@@charliesmith12345~ Why do you say this?

    • @charliesmith12345
      @charliesmith12345 28 дней назад

      @@barbarapelnar4571 They still teach the essential false doctrines of the prophetic movement / the intimacy movement / the charismatic movement.

  • @tripletgirl2484
    @tripletgirl2484 Месяц назад +2

    Such an interesting, heartfelt conversation. Thanks to everyone for being willing.

  • @carolmcilroy8913
    @carolmcilroy8913 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this interview. The first time I met Allen at IHOP I had a one day pass to visit his class. I asked him at the end if I could come back again to the next class and he said, "Yes." I love the Advocate Group. I had Allen, Jono, and Daniel Lim for teachers as well as dear Dr. Wes Adams, Wes Martin, and Wes Hall. I appreciate your stand so much and I know it is costing you all a lot. I love Tikkun as well and am so glad about the investigation going forward. Finally!

  • @TracyGrace555
    @TracyGrace555 Месяц назад

    Thank you Allen, for being so vulnerable, repentant, and genuine. It serves the body of Christ so well to see a broken and a contrite heart from leadership within the prophetic streams. Thank you Samuel, for being real with your Dad. The sharing you both did is such an example for the body as to how to walk out difficult situations with love for God and man.

  • @angiemartin5869
    @angiemartin5869 Месяц назад +1

    My family did blow up in 2009, after being with/in IHOP since 2002. We divorced due to the same way my ex-husband led our family that matched the leadership style in IHOP. Sad. Also, people like Allen Hood have stayed true to course with a soft heart before the Lord. Thank you for sharing so much. I am crying as I listen to you say you're sorry for the deficient structures/leadership/reflection. My children and I suffer from all of it.

  • @carolzupkas6421
    @carolzupkas6421 Месяц назад +2

    I loved hearing Samuel's testimony, because it is good to remember what was good! I'm glad for this reminder about KCIHOP❣️

  • @michelleschuetz2450
    @michelleschuetz2450 Месяц назад +4

    Samuel gives a good description of finding God’s Presence and love in the ordinary. Martin Luther calls it vocation in the Small Catechism. Loving God and loving neighbor. This is done through keeping the commandments and serving God by serving your neighbor through your vocation. What’s your vocation? It isn’t always a grand mystical thing. It is our ordinary work and relationships. Because of Jesus Christ and His work in keeping the law for us and dying for our sins, makes us righteous in God’s sight.

  • @mandyperhay6311
    @mandyperhay6311 Месяц назад +1

    Samuel’s words on purpose at the end there were 🔥. And what Allen said about “building a ministry vs building a family”. The church needs to go through an ego death, but so much of what is preached only serves to strengthen it. We’re so obsessed with our own image and ministry and vision and how radical and right and better than the other guys we are. We’re being told to pick up what we should be laying down as if it’s godly.

  • @micah.s3204
    @micah.s3204 27 дней назад

    Thank you Allan for owning the mistakes you made. Thank you, thank you, you! As someone who has been hurt by leadership, your vulnerability and humility is a breath of fresh air. Your example shows the body how to reconcile and the difference with Jesus. No one or nothing is too far gone for redemption. I love that you are humble enough to listen to your son and you take it in. Well done to both of you!

  • @john4226
    @john4226 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks to all of you for your honesty. This was a tremendous blessing.

  • @ceri64
    @ceri64 Месяц назад +1

    "Don't father a vision and not father a family" wow! That quote hit me. Such an excellent interview. I could feel Alan's heart and pain. Bless you Blaise and Christina.

  • @SuzanneWyss-h3t
    @SuzanneWyss-h3t Месяц назад

    This interview is so deep and meaningful. I appreciate Allen and Samuel's sharing their real experiences. It's helpful and healing. Ty, B&C, for giving a platform to hear from those who were close to MB and the inner workings of IHOPKC.

  • @angelicajenniferr
    @angelicajenniferr Месяц назад

    Former IHOPU student here. Thank you for this. There is a lot that has even come up for me from that season in just the past few months that I either didn't remember or "normalized" because it was the right christian thing to do. So thanks for just sharing and speaking about it. I would love hear you guys talk about smaller church communities that might be going through stuff like this or have gone through stuff like this and how to even start bringing exposure to communities that might be growing and heading down a very similar path ihop did, especially when the outside people that are brought in & are just covering things up more & more.

  • @yvonneparks
    @yvonneparks Месяц назад +1

    THIS! THIS! Oh Alan, I want to be THIS kind of parent. Thank you. And Samuel, thank you for your honesty and kindness.

  • @MSA-uj7cp
    @MSA-uj7cp Месяц назад +13

    Allen: 'we did not have time to breathe'. Clearly Mike had plenty of time to engage in all his extra curricular activities.

  • @wallace0640
    @wallace0640 Месяц назад

    Oh my heart goes out to Allen Hood in the brokenness he displayed and to include all the others who worked diligently for the God worthy vision. I pray the Lord is gracious in healing of minds and hearts with restoration.

  • @barbarapinto7178
    @barbarapinto7178 Месяц назад +8

    Amen you are right the men of God should love their wives.

  • @lovetruth9720
    @lovetruth9720 Месяц назад +2

    I'm not very sympathetic to churches and church leaders like Bill Johnson and Mike Bickle and the like...I don't appreciate how they "Pastor" and I don't appreciate the lack of expository teaching and the abuses of the gifts, but I do appreciate you all coming together and having this real conversation and giving us an inside look and giving weight to our resistance to those kinds of ministries on a deeper personal level. I believe those ministries could've been done in decency and in good order and they could've stuck to the Word and the biblical outworkings of biblical ministry and so I appreciate you guys being honest and transparent and talking about the real harm of many of their practices and the way they ran their ministry. I think this is a very healthy conversation to let people know that a ministry badly done, harms people more than helps them.

  • @deborahlee4441
    @deborahlee4441 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for sharing Allen. It’s so freeing to hear the same shared story. I was with YWAM Tyler from 2001-2006. It is the same culture. 😢

    • @deborahlee4441
      @deborahlee4441 Месяц назад

      In all fairness, many churches have adopted this culture as well.

  • @JohnDavis-hv7nf
    @JohnDavis-hv7nf Месяц назад +54

    Everything that is being described is that of a cult.

    • @tamaraabbas3875
      @tamaraabbas3875 Месяц назад +4

      Most definitely!!

    • @mazzy717
      @mazzy717 Месяц назад +5

      Yes, more of the hurt and wounded being interviewed😪

    • @lionjudah8900
      @lionjudah8900 Месяц назад

      Yes, narcissists like Bickle thrive off the cult of personality worship.

    • @PeacefulWarrior000
      @PeacefulWarrior000 Месяц назад +4

      Naaaah...to me, it's more like the Book of Acts. Not all of us had a bad experience.

    • @JohnDavis-hv7nf
      @JohnDavis-hv7nf Месяц назад +4

      @@PeacefulWarrior000 Man worship wasn’t in the book of acts!

  • @JustinUhl-u3m
    @JustinUhl-u3m Месяц назад

    I cried several times throughout the interview. This is raw vulnerability. I loved Alan’s response to the uncomfortable dialog with Sam and the open criticism. Beautiful and pure conversation. This brought a piece of healing into my own life. Thank you.

  • @sherylturnerturner1352
    @sherylturnerturner1352 Месяц назад +2

    I came out of the Apostolic/prophetic and landed in Life 25 years ago. Much like Allen, couldn't change it from within. It's hard of course leaving that climate of "we will change our region for Christ", but remember the Holy Spirit leads and never drives. Seeing humanity through the shepherds heart and living life is full of glory. I'm so very sorry to hear all the pain and abuse, but I sure understand how it happened. Samuel really nailed it at the end. Bless you all.

  • @karenduckett5288
    @karenduckett5288 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent! Thank you all!!

  • @ConnieRowell-sh4gc
    @ConnieRowell-sh4gc Месяц назад +9

    Yep, Samuel got it, the people were meant to feel they had so much more than the “other” believers. Just sick….

  • @justindavine3940
    @justindavine3940 Месяц назад +3

    If you guys ever bring Allen Hood back on could you ask him what he believes about “the prophetic history” series related to IHOP and revival? I’m curious what somewhat that close and personal believes about it. The prophetic history was mainly the extent of my connection with iHop. I also attended onething conference in ‘09 I believe and read one of Mike Bickle’s books on the prophetic. Does he believe it is all afarse now or that there is lots of truth to it still except that the leaders went astray. Really curious about this question. I think a lot of people are wondering the same thing…

  • @InTheOrderOfEzekiel
    @InTheOrderOfEzekiel Месяц назад +93

    Why doesn't anyone question the actual theological content that was taught there? Alen Hood speaks of the "classics", and the mystics , as if it was all wonderful... The problem that was getting worrisome there in KC was not just the thwarted focus on END TIMES, but the very GNOSTIC basics of their theology - that was ALREADY THERE in the beginning years. I went to Grace training center between 1998 and 2000 and the stuff Mike Bickle was teaching WAS off. A LOT of it. Have you guys read the middle age catholic mystics? It;s GNOSTIC. People were seeing matter as evil - and the spirit as good. That;s not Biblical. God sanctified matter. He became flesh !!! They encouraged extreme fasting then, already. The "beauty" talk was mixed with with asceticism. Beauty was beholded IF you embraced the fasted lifestyle. That's just scripturally off. Delve into that !!!! Those theological pathways that they were encouraging were screaming at me. and thank God I got away from there in 2000.

    • @yllatusmuna
      @yllatusmuna Месяц назад +8

      fasting is Biblical. The Bible is full of fasting.

    • @3kainos
      @3kainos Месяц назад +2

      @@InTheOrderOfEzekiel 💯 And IHOP is inextricably tied to William Branham and the latter rain movement theologically and personally (via Paul Cain who was Branham’s right hand man). The entire idea of an end times “army” of super elite believers filling stadiums with people who are awed by their signs and wonders which are greater than what Jesus did is totally gnostic and heretical.

    • @tamaraabbas3875
      @tamaraabbas3875 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@yllatusmuna in the Old Testament, but where in the New? Didn't Jesus say to His disciples that they had no need to fast when the bridegroom is with them? And is He not always with us through His indwelling Holy Spirit? I wonder if the church has made fasting into a work to try and get God to do something for us in return.. that doesn't seem like a very good motivation to me.

    • @john4226
      @john4226 Месяц назад +9

      The Moravian model of 24/7 prayer was so much different than the IHOP counterfeit. They were actual missionaries, true missionaries who went into all the world to preach the gospel, as Jesus commanded and as all true missionaries do and have done. The Moravians brought salvation and much more wherever they went. The whole idea of calling IHOP people in KC missionaries is a deception and debasing of the word missionary. Our daughter went to school there for 2 years and could not find anyone remotely interested in going out on the street to do evangelism. I, for one, am very glad that this phony Christianity is being exposed and hopefully is disappearing. Let's not talk about the part of the apple that isn't rotten yet. It is a rotten apple.

    • @john4226
      @john4226 Месяц назад

      Allen was a cult leader whose eyes were blinded by the truth because of his worship of Mike Bickle and his words. Thank God that the scales are gradually coming off.

  • @nicoleanne7932
    @nicoleanne7932 Месяц назад

    I’m thankful for you both, Allen and Samuel and especially Rachel! Your family was a lifeline for me most of my years there between especially 2004-2013! Your broken voice of truth as you have & are detangled/detangling is healing for me! I am sorry Allen for what you went through and how MB treated you went you left!

  • @dusankakandija7423
    @dusankakandija7423 Месяц назад +3

    God bless and keep you all❤
    I wonder, how does a believer need to understand that THE LORD is "worthy", to me, it seems offensive to even give that as an atribute to HIM, HE IS GOD ALLMIGHTY, HE IS EVERYTHING. The focus of a believer should, in my opinion, not be how God loves us and brings about emotions in us, but how magnificent and glorious HE ONLY is, and what an honour it is for us to humbly serve HIM while awaiting HIS return. And proclaim THE CROSS to the whole world.

  • @theresaziegler2384
    @theresaziegler2384 Месяц назад

    This is such a healing interview and explains so much. We attended IHOPKC for 6 years from 2011-2017 and were not on staff. We definitely felt like we were on the outside..we didn’t have a staff badge. So many people would introduce themselves and ask “are you on staff?”. It almost felt embarrassing to say “no we have jobs”. We led a home group during that time but it was so difficult to have any sense of connection beyond that. We realized later that so many people felt the same way.

  • @sanettestrydom6371
    @sanettestrydom6371 Месяц назад +3

    Allan an Samuel clearly have a lot of pain still to deal with. I pray that God will help you see the truth and come out the other side stronger in Him. This "church" is not what the Bible teaches about God and being a Christian. Only when we read the Bible will we know the true God.
    Thank you for this interview. I know this will help others.

  • @called2life1
    @called2life1 Месяц назад +6

    I was there during the Bethany Deaton tragedy and it still haunts me

  • @bonniebusby1067
    @bonniebusby1067 Месяц назад +3

    Alan, It was always life giving when you were around. I didn't feel like a failure when you spoke. The most miracles happened when ypu called us all forward to sing around the sick. When you left everything went downhill in an excellerated way. The anointing left with you ... selah

    • @laurie9993
      @laurie9993 Месяц назад

      Yes (Allen) this is accurate, significant anointing left w Allen! Missed

  • @Gods-Ambassador
    @Gods-Ambassador Месяц назад

    Love Allen Hood he has planted so much seed in my family. I appreciate the hoods. Thank you for standing for integrity

  • @marianvolkerding4044
    @marianvolkerding4044 25 дней назад

    Prayers for healing of abuse for Allen and his family

  • @davidwireback8621
    @davidwireback8621 Месяц назад

    Thank you for sharing about giving up your discernment. Allan you are so truthful about your journey and your mistakes. My prayers that you will be able to move on past all of this and the guy would use you again in the mighty way.

  • @cindyhoikkala602
    @cindyhoikkala602 Месяц назад +13

    Samuel seems like he has a lot of his mind. I see pain in his face

    • @mazzy717
      @mazzy717 Месяц назад +2

      We ask for Your mercy, Father God on him. Mercy, Father God .

    • @sunsetstormx
      @sunsetstormx Месяц назад

      ​@@mazzy717Father we lift up Sam and his dad to you Lord God only you can bring healing from a tragedy like this.

  • @JohnSmith-555
    @JohnSmith-555 Месяц назад +5

    Jesus loves you all. Just follow the Lord and present your heart to Him while we ask what’s on His heart. We all need to focus on Him and be obedient to Him and help each other. Let’s keep it simple. Just ask the Lord what to do and follow what He says. I’m working on this too. God bless you guys

  • @HeidiCancelleri
    @HeidiCancelleri Месяц назад

    Excellent wisdom from a true Father and son. God bless you all

  • @sharonwilliams3403
    @sharonwilliams3403 Месяц назад +3

    Samuel.....your Dad wants the best for you....he was protecting you and teaching you to walk in holiness

  • @3n1nus
    @3n1nus Месяц назад +5

    Allen, it is BETRAYAL, you are dealing with. How PAINFUL!!! I feel the same way as a listener of Mike Bickle and his teaching about the Bride of Christ. It just leaves me with questions about what to believe about what he taught and talked about with the miraculous and angels, etc. . . . He deceived you as well. You did what you could with the reality you were conditioned to believe about him, just like us.

  • @TroyStevens430
    @TroyStevens430 Месяц назад +2

    Allen is now a true pastor.

  • @bethmeerdink4727
    @bethmeerdink4727 Месяц назад

    Thank you Allen and especially Samuel with the truth of simple life and how God loves us in the ordinary

  • @stephenrswartz214
    @stephenrswartz214 Месяц назад

    Thank you! This is good! Honest, and hopefully brings some healing to many!

  • @ginapeterson1003
    @ginapeterson1003 Месяц назад

    The best interview on IHop that I have seen. Thank you Samuel for your honesty and Allen for being brave enough to hear it.

  • @hankstribe8738
    @hankstribe8738 Месяц назад +8

    We need to form church around the Person of Jesus Christ! Yes! :)

  • @sreynolds777
    @sreynolds777 Месяц назад

    Alan Hood, your humility and transparency brings glory to Jesus - because Jesus shows up in our weakness.
    I’ve been in the church world since 19. Ran after it hard and was a major part of a mega church from the days of 25 people in the beginning. We saw great and marvelous things - but I didn’t know Him then like I’ve since known Him in my weakness - in my failings. And I wouldn’t trade any of the loses for the way I am with Him now.
    The church needs to see Jesus in the way He is shining through you in your poverty of spirit - in your contrition of heart.

  • @NotEasyButSimple
    @NotEasyButSimple Месяц назад

    goodness. I wasn't expecting this episode to make me cry. This was soo deep when the Hoods spoke about the effects on health and families.😢😢

  • @susanskidmore8209
    @susanskidmore8209 Месяц назад +1

    When your son is your age, he too will see how wrong he was in his past. Right now he thinks he's the wise leader... just as you felt at his age. Humility in your 30s is rare

  • @nathanphillips3893
    @nathanphillips3893 Месяц назад

    Samuel - PREACH! So much of what you said resonated. Thank you & Blessings :)