Fantastic videos. Just dug a '72 CL350 with 7,000 miles out of my Grandpa's garage. Been sitting there 39 years. I got her running and am now ready to tune her up! Thanks for the videos. Please keep 'em coming.
I just wanna say I love everything you guys do. You live and breathe classic Hondas. I've found your channel and as well a your site very helpful with my CL350 build. I bought a valve set from you guys a while back. And I just want you to know I appreciate the convenience.
I don't own a guitar but I do have a carb jet wire gauge set. If you could mic the guitar wire for me it would be helpful so I know which gauge wire to use from my set for a good idle speed starting point. TYVM
Great technique but usually not all things are exactly equal, and sometimes you'll find that it is better to fine adjust idle while motorcycle is running. Provided both cables pull and retract roughly the same.
Excellent video! I just picked up a 74 cl360 and plan to overhaul it. I've never done anything to this extent, but am good with a wrench and have tools. I really wish someone could walk me through ordering parts, any help ideas? Thanks again!
Instead of putting a wire under the butterfly would it be okay to leave the butterflies totally closed and then come down with the idle adjustment screw until it just stops and use that guideline? I would think so
When your working with clients, just how often do you find the bike's troubles are linked to this seeming insignificant maladjustment? With these tandem cables, it must be a pretty common ill with variation of cable deflection as the throttle wears and stretches over time.
I rarely comment on videos. This is comment worthy. Great great vid man. As a newbie rider and proud and "foolish" ;) owner of a 73 350 twin that is waiting for me to get running again, I thank you. Where are you located the place I. The intro looks so much like Pasadena, CA which is where I'm from. Anyway thanks again.
Any advice you can provide on my CL450...seems to start and idle fine, lower speeds and gears fine but it doesn't want to go over 55. it starts sputtering like it's out of fuel .
I doubt anyone will answer this lol but i have a 1973 honda cb 350 twin and it doesnt idle like at all i have to give it gas and keep it at like above 1rpm at 3:50 he talks about how that bolt sets the idle speed or watever is that my issue? if i tighten it down will it let my motorcycle idle or do i have other issues on my bike? im thinking about getting it tuned soon too but i just want to know if i can do anything about this idle issue thanks :D
The most common problem is a clogged Idle Jet and that's probably what you have going on. If you look where your float is there's that float stop bracket you'll see two little round circles one is the main jet the other is the idle Jet they need to be cleaned out. I use welding tip cleaner you could get an any Harbor Freight type place for like $7 little fine wires that you can use to clean through the Jets
I have been chasing my tail trying to tune my carbs and I think I just stumbled upon my problem and I feel like an idiot. Can someone confirm my stupidity for me? Is the choke , with the lever "open", physically in a vertical position, in the farthest notch from the two that are close together, the riding position it should be in after warm up? I think I have been using it backwards thinking that "open" was for cold start warm ups. PLEASE HELP.
No. The only adjustments you can do on the bike running is idle speed (1200-1500 RPM) and idle mixture. Start with the mix screw 1.5 turns out from seated. Turn clockwise in 1/4 increments till you find the spot where the RPM increases the most. Adjust down the idle speed. Repeat for the other side.
+CriticalThinker02 It was Honda's way to address keeping the circulation going in your feet and butt when riding for long stretches of time. ;) They all do that and it is just the nature of the engine architecture. You have to either have a balance shaft or have more pistons to smooth out the harmonic vibration.
Common Motor Collective Had another question for you... Hopefully you'll receive this. I feel like my 350 is really loose in the front, almost like it could start oscillating at 55/60. I don't notice that on my CB160. It's just really loose, like its too easy to turn the wheel (feels like a bicycle). Is this also a thing with the 350's (like the buzzy/vibration is) or could it be the headset needs tightening or something repaired?
+CriticalThinker02 Sounds like you need to rebuild your headset. Could be loose or missing some of the ball bearings. Got an upgrade kit to change it out to tapered roller bearings, which will help smooth the steering out. www.common-motor.com/honda-steering-bearings Also you tires could be out of balance and causing a vibration at higher speeds.
+ArchSmith - The 360 design allows the carbs to be more finely synchronized. Also the 360 design allows you to adjust the sync in real time as the engine is running based on the engines' unique fuel flow demands. The 360 is like the 350 2.0, it is a higher precision engine, but on the flip side there is a much smaller margin for error.
Hi I'm having trouble with mine I can set mine up with the idle screw but when I try to set the other butterfly up with the screw and nut it doesn't seem to move any ideas plz
hey Bryn! If you're having trouble still with the bike I'd recommend reaching out to our support line at 510) 824-8575 on monday or tuesday from 12-6 pm. We can maybe get a better idea of what's going on! If its busy leave us a message and we'll call you back to talk with you about it.
The usual trick is to measure the length of 10 pitches, for a 1/2 inch chain it will be ten inches. The chain is considered to be worn when this becomes ten and 1/8 inches. For a 5/8 chain, the ten inches will occur every 8 pitches. The other method is to see how much you can pull the chain off the rear sprocket, not too sure of an actual figure, because the size of the sprocket affects the result, but you should not 'uncover' any teeth. The 1/8 inch in 10 is the usual standard, even on industrial machines, forklifts, conveyor belts etc.
thanks this is similar to my cb400a carb and will help a great deal.plus maybe you have some parts I need.Like the acc/pump and both air c/offs.I will check your sight soon for these and plugs for both carbs as mine seem unreliable.Bob in sunny Wildwood florida w/ my 1980 hondamatic.w/ 29,000 actual.The new fuel (eth) is corrupting my ride time.any Hints are welcome here.Thanks again.bye and I need to get back into the wind.
Fantastic videos. Just dug a '72 CL350 with 7,000 miles out of my Grandpa's garage. Been sitting there 39 years. I got her running and am now ready to tune her up! Thanks for the videos. Please keep 'em coming.
You guys do awesome vids on these Honda's. Keep 'em coming!
Building a cb350 this year, and a noob to boot. This video was very well done and much appreciated. I will be sure to watch the rest.
I just wanna say I love everything you guys do. You live and breathe classic Hondas. I've found your channel and as well a your site very helpful with my CL350 build. I bought a valve set from you guys a while back. And I just want you to know I appreciate the convenience.
I've found it hard to build these bikes on a budget. But I'm only 17. Ha ha.
Brenden, you the man. Thanks for another great video series.
So well explained...and here I thought it was some kind of high-tech mystery zen procedure. Thanks for setting me straight
I have a 1973 CB450k6 that's been popping..that was the fix! Thanks friend!
Another great video. Thanks guys. This is precious resource for my Honda CB 450.
Just followed your helpfull tips and carbs now working perfect thanks
Great video
But there is not any other screw to adjust like air flow or gas?
I don't own a guitar but I do have a carb jet wire gauge set. If you could mic the guitar wire for me it would be helpful so I know which gauge wire to use from my set for a good idle speed starting point. TYVM
Great technique but usually not all things are exactly equal, and sometimes you'll find that it is better to fine adjust idle while motorcycle is running. Provided both cables pull and retract roughly the same.
Thank you for the clear descriptions. Good movie.
Excellent video! I just picked up a 74 cl360 and plan to overhaul it. I've never done anything to this extent, but am good with a wrench and have tools. I really wish someone could walk me through ordering parts, any help ideas? Thanks again!
Can you do a video of a CB350 carburetor rebuild?
Instead of putting a wire under the butterfly would it be okay to leave the butterflies totally closed and then come down with the idle adjustment screw until it just stops and use that guideline? I would think so
When your working with clients, just how often do you find the bike's troubles are linked to this seeming insignificant maladjustment? With these tandem cables, it must be a pretty common ill with variation of cable deflection as the throttle wears and stretches over time.
I rarely comment on videos. This is comment worthy. Great great vid man. As a newbie rider and proud and "foolish" ;) owner of a 73 350 twin that is waiting for me to get running again, I thank you. Where are you located the place I. The intro looks so much like Pasadena, CA which is where I'm from. Anyway thanks again.
Any advice you can provide on my CL450...seems to start and idle fine, lower speeds and gears fine but it doesn't want to go over 55. it starts sputtering like it's out of fuel .
What a great video! Good job
What another great video! This process always seemed super challenging to me. I appreciate how spelled out and made it doable. Thanks!
Yes ! Very well delivered and very useful . Good stuff.
Please dont hate me. I was wondering what size of jet you would use if you were to have pod filters.
Thanks in advance.
I doubt anyone will answer this lol but i have a 1973 honda cb 350 twin and it doesnt idle like at all i have to give it gas and keep it at like above 1rpm at 3:50 he talks about how that bolt sets the idle speed or watever is that my issue? if i tighten it down will it let my motorcycle idle or do i have other issues on my bike? im thinking about getting it tuned soon too but i just want to know if i can do anything about this idle issue thanks :D
go to hondatwins.net It's a forum website and there are people there who can help you out
The most common problem is a clogged Idle Jet and that's probably what you have going on. If you look where your float is there's that float stop bracket you'll see two little round circles one is the main jet the other is the idle Jet they need to be cleaned out.
I use welding tip cleaner you could get an any Harbor Freight type place for like $7 little fine wires that you can use to clean through the Jets
Great video, as are all the rest I love riding my cb360 without you guys as a company(for parts and information) I may not be as mobile. 🤣
Who are you
I have been chasing my tail trying to tune my carbs and I think I just stumbled upon my problem and I feel like an idiot. Can someone confirm my stupidity for me?
Is the choke , with the lever "open", physically in a vertical position, in the farthest notch from the two that are close together, the riding position it should be in after warm up? I think I have been using it backwards thinking that "open" was for cold start warm ups.
PLEASE HELP.
Do you have a video on how to tune both carbs on a 350/450 while the motor is running?
No. The only adjustments you can do on the bike running is idle speed (1200-1500 RPM) and idle mixture. Start with the mix screw 1.5 turns out from seated. Turn clockwise in 1/4 increments till you find the spot where the RPM increases the most. Adjust down the idle speed. Repeat for the other side.
Thank you for these!
Great videos and a great on-line store, too. Thanks a ton.
Andrew Titus they have a on line store?
Great video! Question: Any sage advice on why my '72 CB350 is buzzing/vibrating so much, especially at higher speeds?
+CriticalThinker02 It was Honda's way to address keeping the circulation going in your feet and butt when riding for long stretches of time. ;) They all do that and it is just the nature of the engine architecture. You have to either have a balance shaft or have more pistons to smooth out the harmonic vibration.
Common Motor Collective Ha ha, roger that. Glad it's not just me then. Appreciate you getting back with!
Common Motor Collective Had another question for you... Hopefully you'll receive this. I feel like my 350 is really loose in the front, almost like it could start oscillating at 55/60. I don't notice that on my CB160. It's just really loose, like its too easy to turn the wheel (feels like a bicycle). Is this also a thing with the 350's (like the buzzy/vibration is) or could it be the headset needs tightening or something repaired?
+CriticalThinker02 Sounds like you need to rebuild your headset. Could be loose or missing some of the ball bearings. Got an upgrade kit to change it out to tapered roller bearings, which will help smooth the steering out.
www.common-motor.com/honda-steering-bearings
Also you tires could be out of balance and causing a vibration at higher speeds.
Common Motor Collective Appreciate the advice and feedback!
I wish the 360t was this simple. Is there an advantage to the complexity of the 360t carb sync process?
+ArchSmith - The 360 design allows the carbs to be more finely synchronized. Also the 360 design allows you to adjust the sync in real time as the engine is running based on the engines' unique fuel flow demands. The 360 is like the 350 2.0, it is a higher precision engine, but on the flip side there is a much smaller margin for error.
Thanks! This was really helpful!
Great information. Very helpful. Thank you.
Great videos. I have a CL175 any interest in posting some about that bike?
It's on our to do list.
@@Common-motor I look forward to seeing some.
Again...THANKS A BUNCH ! 👍👍
Is the cb250 the same ?
Hi I'm having trouble with mine I can set mine up with the idle screw but when I try to set the other butterfly up with the screw and nut it doesn't seem to move any ideas plz
hey Bryn! If you're having trouble still with the bike I'd recommend reaching out to our support line at 510) 824-8575 on monday or tuesday from 12-6 pm. We can maybe get a better idea of what's going on! If its busy leave us a message and we'll call you back to talk with you about it.
is this basically the same for my 72 SL 350
Yes
Sweet vid! Thank you!
If the chain appears fine, how will I know when to replace the chain vs. move the real wheel?
The usual trick is to measure the length of 10 pitches, for a 1/2 inch chain it will be ten inches. The chain is considered to be worn when this becomes ten and 1/8 inches. For a 5/8 chain, the ten inches will occur every 8 pitches. The other method is to see how much you can pull the chain off the rear sprocket, not too sure of an actual figure, because the size of the sprocket affects the result, but you should not 'uncover' any teeth. The 1/8 inch in 10 is the usual standard, even on industrial machines, forklifts, conveyor belts etc.
Hey, just received a package from you! Thanks for the great service!
great explanation and clear video thanks
That was made easy two thumbs up 👍👍
Its a pretty easy process! Glad we could show that.
Is there any chance you could do a video on how the fit the spring on the fuel cap?
thanks this is similar to my cb400a carb and will help a great deal.plus maybe you have some parts I need.Like the acc/pump and both air c/offs.I will check your sight soon for these and plugs for both carbs as mine seem unreliable.Bob in sunny Wildwood florida w/ my 1980 hondamatic.w/ 29,000 actual.The new fuel (eth) is corrupting my ride time.any Hints are welcome here.Thanks again.bye and I need to get back into the wind.
Thanks for the help.
Larry
So was that your g string? 🤔
Excellent info.
is the throttle butterfly beveled;does i go in one specific way...please...ive heard yes and no so....if someone really knows
+snuffelsuf Yes, it is beveled and it does go in one way only, usually with some writing on the upper side of the butterfly facing towards the engine.
Great method
Thank you.
Seems like you should have shown the process of adjusting the "progression" but otherwise nice job.
But that doesn't mean your idle speed is correct. Something will have to be further adjusted.
No, no, no! Never use wire under a exquisitely machined soft metal carb butterfly!
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What is the ACTUAL size of the G-string a 9 or 10 ?