Colombian Esgrima: 6 vs 1 Machete & Stick Duel
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You literally couldn't have gotten a better expert. This guy needs to keep appearing on your show. Bring him back! Legend in the community.
whos is he? Whats his name?
@@briandiaz4373 Da'Mon Stith
@@junichiroyamashita thank you sir
Really? Even the jokers in the SCA file down their blunted steel after each use, reducing the injuries from the "serrated edge"... Simple, yet effective. Truly, it's deformed metal from steel striking steel, causing burrs that can snag skin in a particularly nasty way.
Sooo... use a file. I consider it on the same level as the simple upkeep of a tool, yet he is not participating in it.
I lived in ATX for 3 years and have met him at different events. Has a plethora of knowledge when it comes to HAMA (Historuc African Martial Arts) and weapons. He is a personal trainer and runs Street Forge Amory. I can't praise him enough
The way he instantly adjusted for each student tells you everything about how good of an instructor he is
I was fortunate enough to have a lesson with Da'Mon and he is amazing. He knows his stuff, adjusts for his students, is more than capable of demonstrating every technique, and just loves the art. He is a top tier instructor.
This might be the first time TMR has done a martial arts showcase without spending a lot of time showing Brian and Jason trying to learn some of the basics themselves. The discussion was interesting and the training/exhibition with the students was fun to watch. Nice job. I mean, it's still entertaining to watch the guys fumble through a lesson about knife fighting, but this is a good alternative as well.
Glad someone mentioned, the one thing keeping me away was too much of the instructional stuff. It’s fun but sometimes feels a bit tedious!
Hi! Colombian here. The machete and bordón are work instruments in principle, a walking stick and a blade. Since colonnial times, fighting styles using work tools have existed, and in rural parts you still hear of people fighting (usually drunk) with them.
Now, in the hotter, southern parts of the country you can find this particular style, coming, as he said, from african and filipino traditions. In the colder midcountry, usually they fought only with machetes, or they used a Ruana (a extremely heavy woolen poncho) wrapped around the off hand as a shield. The Ruana is thick enough most cuts wont go trough and can be used to distract, entangle and wrap the blade.
Also, the machetes used in the video are "Barrigon" meaning "Big belly" and are extremely top heavy, not ideal when you miss, because the momentum makes you lose balance. There are several types of machete, and "duels" were fought a lot with "Tres Canales" (Three grooves), "Peinillas" (Hair comb) and "Rulas" (Ruler), which are different types of straighter less top heavy machetes. Antioquia's machetes have a soft curve to the blade, almost reminiscent of a kukri and it's said they were the best for fighting, but day to day people would more likely than not, carry straight Peinillas.
Yo tengo uno corneta, pero no es una peinilla, es un estilo rambo, de 12".
Este video me lo regalo el algoritmo (al fin sirve para algo el algoritmo) saludos.
No sabía que las ruanas se usaban de escudo en la esgrima con machete
Sir, is the art really called Esgrima? or is the art called something else in Colombian Queliche? There are NO stick fighting arts in Africa that are called Esgrima. Eskrima which is a Castilian term indicating Skirmish. This fellow is using Spanish terms that come from Africa. I have personally studied with a disciple of Kalindi Iyi in the Khemetic Art called AHA. Esgrima NEVER came up in terminology.
@@kevincage1641 it's a colombian Unique style and we call it "Esgrima" because is based on european colonial sword fighting mixed with local traditions
It's Esgrima whether You like it or not 😄
@@kevincage1641 yes Kevin, a master I know used to call it "esgrima", that's the way they call it. Beautiful movements, sadly I think it is gonna face extintion in two or three generations.
In the Caribbean a draw stick similar to the Bordon, is always used in conjunction with the machete to clear tall cow grass, vines, brush without cutting your other hand. The draw stick is made of hard wood the size of the Bordon on this video, however, the draw stick looks just like a "Check Mark". The draw stick is used by holding the "check mark like" stick by its long end in one hand, then use the hook end to grab a bunch of tall grass at the base and draw it back and cutting it of with the machete on the other hand as to not putting your empty hand in the way and avoid getting cut. Also, it doubles as a walking stick when trekking. And Triples as a combat tool. Awesome Video...
Nice! I hope to see more Da'mon Stith in the future as he is a fantastic martial artist and I would love to see these martial arts get more exposure. I've seen sparring footage of him against HEMA practitioners and there is no question he knows what he is doing.
So happy to see Da'Mon getting a lot more traction lately. He's not just incredibly knowledgeable of his craft but also a wonderful person in general. Couldn't have a better guy in your corner!
I've had the pleasure of working and sparring with Da'Mon before and I couldn't say enough to express how amazing this man really is both as a person and his skill in martial arts.
now I just need to figure out how to spend 6 months to a year as his student ;-)
I am sooo jealous...
One of the best ways I've found to see if someone knows what they're doing is to put them against a beginner in training. Someone that knows their stuff will be able to slow down and account for beginner mistakes, while someone just boasting will try to prove what they know. Da'mon is a great instructor, and clearly knows exactly what he's doing. Looking forward to more videos with him!
Was happy he brought up combat stress/adrenaline and how it affects your ability to think and do fine motor movement. It's not often accounted for. All practical martial arts at the end of the day should focus on being effective in "cave man mode".
That's why (once you are at a level where you can safely do so) we want to incorporate sparring in most martial arts.
Even if they are utterly impractical, like HEMA/HAMA. you're not gonna bring a sword.
But it's to really challenge the techniques we've been drilling into our lizard brain.
That is why you learn to control stress
@@kpsiex It's less about stress and more just about body mechanics and biology.
When combat adrenaline kicks in, no matter how much stress control one has, a person is limited to gross motor movement.
Even experienced UFC fighters deal with this. And it's why you don't really see fancy or complicated moves in bouts, even between the most experienced and mentally conditioned.
@@Mr-Tibbster that's exactly what i am talking about.
ufc fighters are skilled but they are soft, they aren't the best example
Even impractical ones like Olympic fencing are important for this too! Adrenaline is so powerful and it affects the mind. The most impressive state of power I ever have felt is overcoming my own adrenaline and fully being in my mind and body while fencing
As a student of Filipino Martial Arts, this is interesting. You can see the influence of the 16th century Spanish Acapulco-Manila Galleon trade in this.
The Philippine Arnis (also known as Eskrima or Kali) is basically the lovechild of Columbian Esgrima and Southeast Asian Silat.
We even call ourselves "eskrimadores".
WOW! You got Da' mon Stith! He is an AMAZING instructor!
The fact that he was on the fly adjusting the complexity and difficulty of attacks during that 1 on 1 drill and tuning to his students abilities and confidence shows a high level of competency and that he is a great teacher.
As an Olympic fencer (the sport, I am NOT in the Olympic level lol) this video was very cool! I think so much of the philosophy he’s teaching is absolutely something that the Olympic style of fencing should practice more! Escrima is also very old and when I read books by masters of fencing I see so many of the ideas and the true art forms that are demonstrated in this video come out into the teachings
Da'Mon is such a great martial artist and always informative. Love what he is doing to popularize HAMA and love seeing him show up on more channels.
Da'Mon seems like a knowledgeable and funny guy. What about testing some weapons / fighting styles - get a few people who've demonstrated various weapons and fighting styles - like Anthony for example - to choose one martial art and/or weapon(s) to see which is the most effective. Then see if it works with one days training by Brian and Jason to see if it it's still as effective. Modern Rogue celebrity death-match.
It's so wholesome to see the looks on Brian and Jason's faces as they watch the training, they're just so happy to be here and study such a cool fighting art
Love Damon he is very knowledgeable is a great martial artist, and everyone I have met who has met him has said he is a wonderful person. As a HEMA fencer you start to notice reoccurring moves across mutiple diffrent styles of martial arts which tells you that it worked and was effective.
I find it a lot in grappling styles too, there's only so many ways to throw or take someone down after all
Damn man, where do you guys find a guy like this, not only he's knowledgeable in martial arts terminology but also damn calm doing drills with blunted machete and a cool instructor.. which would be very scary I bet haha... And that closing with Brian's hat 😂😂😂
:) Puerto Tejada, Colombia. Los viejos lo pronunciaban Grima. Omitiendo la primera sílaba "Es"... que bonito saber que se reproduce esa herencia. :)
Bordón is a spanish word for a long stick (usually used for walking), tall as a person, with a metal capped end and a thick head. So yeah, not so much a polearm but very likely an implement that most people could/would carry, and like the good-ole English quarterstaves, easy enough to use as a weapon by the common people.
Malicia does, indeed, translate to ill-intent, but not directly trickery. A closer word for trickery would be "picaresca" or "engaño" but the meaning of malicia is rather well-suited to the kind of intention behind trying to kill the other before they kill you.
And specially in Colombia we do use the term malicia a lot to describe someone being underhanded or sly
I always have enjoyed when y'all show these professionals that show so much respect and knowledge to their craft. I will agree with some other commenters for some reason I think I enjoyed this one more than the others. Just slightly but I think more. Definitely have this instructor back on.
This guy knows what he's talking about. Always beware of any martial arts instructor who tries to tell you there are no limitations or shortcomings to whatever their chosen discipline is, and certainly of anyone who tries to convince you that doing practices stances, drills, and demonstrations will somehow translate into making you a master real-world fighter. All of that has it's place in training, but if you try that kind of stuff in a real fight, you're probably going to get your ass torn off and handed to you.
I'm convinced, some times Brian is trying to tell us something with his choice of t shirt...
But nope, it's usually just TEXAS!
I heard Filipinos that were Escrima or Kali fighters were aboard Spanish gallion ships and traveled around the world during Spains colonization of the Philippines. Some even settled in Louisiana in the 1700s. I wonder if these fighters traded secrets and fighting styles back in the days.
That is correct. Spain ruled the Philippines via the Viceroyalty of New Spain (modern day Mexico). The main trade link to Spain, initially, was not sailing west, but east to Acapulco via the Manila Galleons, which used Filipino sailors to crew them. After Mexico gained independence, the trade routes had to go east, through the Indian ocean and around Cape of Good Hope. They did a genomic study of modern day Mexicans who are native to the area around Acapulco and found that upwards to 1/4 to 1/3 have Filipino genetic markers.
As for his video and fighting style, I see a lot of FMA in it. But is that mostly due to the Spanish influence or the Asian influence? From what I've been able to ascertain is that native FMA pre-colonial, looked and functioned a lot like Indonesian Silat, as well as having Kung-Fu/Kuntao influence from the Chinese traders and settlers. In fact, in Mindanao, which had the least amount of Spanish influence, but the most amount of Middle Eastern and Indo-Malay influence, they still call native fighting arts "Silat" not "Arnis" nor "Escrima", which are bastardized Spanish loan words. When the Spanish arrived, Filipino fighters absorbed a lot of Spanish fencing techniques and integrated them into the FMA systems. From the looks of what he's doing, I'm wondering if the same happened in Colombia, because what he's doing doesn't look like Silat. Even the drills he's showing look like FMA stick/sword fighting drills.
This is more Filipino, the only western thing I see is when he hold his waist while fighting hahahah
That would not be surprising - there is stories here in Brazil of Capoeira fighters having epic brawls with Japanese immigrants that knew karate just to see who of them was the best fighter.
So Filipino Escrima/Kali fighters exchanging knowledge with African slaves/former slaves would made total sense.
The instructor said at the beginning that this fighting style came from West Africa. If you go to the various pyramids that are all over the continent of Africa, you will find engraved in stone instances of fighting that pre-date the inhabitation of the Philippines.
I really hope you finally get in touch with Doug Marcaida. He's become one of the best ambassadors for Filipino Martial Arts.
This was a great episode; very fun to see the build up of techniques in the way the students learn it at their level. Also very cool to notice how many similar principles there are between this and capoeira.
As usual I know it's a good episode if I come out feeling like I learned something I didn't know or made a new connection to something I partly knew before. Informative and fun to watch!
Anyone else curious how the rogues would do if they they each had Anthony & Da'mon as coaches and then they have to face eachother in battle! Lets see how they'd do facing a different fighting/weapons technique and improvising on the fly!
Excited to bring seeing more content from you guys again. Hope you guys had a good break
What an incredible class! Really nice to see more MR field trips like this again :)
Gotta bring this guy back, holy SHIT
As a swordsman with Backsword, Cutlass etc. I really like the Colombian styles of Machete fencing. Especially this drills here with the steel Machete has many familiar movements, feels more close to me than what I saw so far from the Haitian styles of Machete use.
I was lucky enough to take some classes with Da'mon when he was at a Seattle HEMA event. Great teacher and great conversations about martial arts.
Da’Mon is an amazing instructor, martial artist, and person!
Once I found out Da'Mon was in Texas my first thought was "a perfect Modern Rogue guest"
Jason was watching at the end and thinking, "if he misses at all, this will definitely bring up the injury counter.
interesting similar to to fma eskrima but mixed with a bit of the as we call kokobalé in Puerto Rico
I love seeing both the African and European influences in the fighting style, especially visible during the free sparring exercise. And watching the Masters footwork, I was completely unsurprised to hear that he had studied capoeira!
You've found the eminent scholar in the field. Da'mon is the GOAT of historical African martial arts.
Me, sees thumbnail: hey, is that Da'Mon Stith?
*gets popcorn*
Da'mon is an awesome guy, great teacher and very knowledgeable!
Da'mon is so cool, I love his work! Ask him about the Shotel for a future video!
Oh the music queue was just perrrrffectttt 😶🌫😊
This was a great episode, loved seeing the teacher work with his students!
They're kinda like if you crossed pawn stars myth busters and Rhett and link
I love these kind of videos. You folks at the modern rogue reignited my interest in learning hema
Damn RUclips hates you or something you should be getting some pretty good views with content THIS GOOD.
Eh. RUclips is a fickle mistress. On the one hand, I agree: this should have more views. On the other hand: RUclips just exploded our biggest numbers ever over the weekend. 🤷♀️
I see this being practiced by new gangs in London. Pretty cool!
Thanks for talking about this almost Lost martial art, My grandfather was an expert in this martial art, in My land we call "esgrima paisa" but is just a derivation from the esgrima con machete y borlon, this martial art was very importante in aur history because give to the slaves the tool for their Freedom and in the many wars in My country Colombia, the experts in esgrima con machete y borlon play a very important paper
Thankyou so much
holy moly i didnt know there was martial arts like these that are similar to Kali/Eskrima
Really great to see Maestro Stith getting some shine.
From what little i know, the Bordain (spelling seems to vary?) was a one handed evolution of the Bec De Corbin that developed as a sort of poor man’s bastardization. (Did some weapon genealogy research into pole weapons a while back) thus the head would have the thrusting pike, chopping axe, and hooking pick, albeit modified to work as a fully one handed piece of nasty work.
But do keep in mind the info on it was sparse, disjointed, and there is the possibility of names being used for multiple things
Let's gooo, another skill added to the channel!!!
This rules. I love Da'Mon and his videos.
Bordon in collector circles refers to various types of walking sticks. I've seen one with a spike at the bottom end, probably for thrusting it into the ground (for use as spit rack or perhaps a tentpole, as this example had Y shaped top) but definitely a thrust with it would be more dangerous than the top part.
I actually mentioned Da’mon as a potential for “Ultimate Self Defense Championship”. He’s awesome.
Quite the suspense on the hat trick lol I lost track how many times I rewind it back
Always fascinating to see another style of fighting, that yet is so similar. When they fought with only the machete, I could see all the movements you usually see in Dussack plays from HEMA :)
"There's nothing wrong with a little machete fighting." - Nate Cox
what a fantastic idea for a video! this is real practical martial arts for modern people
Damn I would've liked to have seen Brian and Jason go through the typical process we see in these videos
Love your shows. please drop the background music / noise
Last time I was this early youtube had a different icon!!!!
@The Modern Rogue, what martial art is this
Talking about the Mohammed Ali thing, I've seen people say something along the line of "A good Boxer can purposely make beginner mistakes, and have them not be mistakes."
Along the lines of say, dropping guard to invite a punch to clear and counter. Requires you to be very good at the basics and drilling those four hours and hours on end to where you respond automatically, and then you can take that and make a gameplan in the heat of the moment for what would be seen as an amazing play, but is actually just a tactical mistake.
Its funny that some Filipino slaves were brought to columbia by the spanish conquistadors and that brought that martial arts there...
Gentlemen, you came soooo close to Polish style sabre fighting! I hope you find someone who can show you this beautiful system from my country
Sweet thanks for the content MR crew always a pleasure to watch with baited breath for the injury counter
Very cool ! The Las Damas position actually looks a lot like Shaolin’s Hero Stance. I would imagine it implements in a similar way.
Colombia and Guatemala are very similar, The machete is very used as tool and also as weapons and it is very representative of our culture, it is a part of most male indigenous customs, you would see the guard of the machete ornamente often made out of leather, the word "Bordon" which was refer as a Stick duel is the equivalent as a walking stick on our culture, Indigenous authorities in a village or town will have one that represents a level or hierarchy most of the time given to the elderly ones, respected by the village because of they age, honor , skills with women, his ability to drink alcohol and mastery in the art of machete fighting or also knows as "machetear" in Guatemalan Spanish.
So respectively did someone centuries ago or not sure how long of a duration of time go to the Philippines or someone from the Philippines travel and teach the art of Eskrima/Arnis/Kali because this is Filipino'esk to the T lol Very beautiful and definitely lethal no doubt!!
this dude needs to come back
Great show. I'm still very intrigued on how much influence eskrima has on his movement and how much is it Colombian machete
Small spear weapon reminds me of the iklwa. Which also reminded me that in black panther kill monger had the short spear and sword combo. Very cool.
I know you had a big move, but I haven't been interested in most of your videos for quite a few months now. Mindreading and Radiation (5 months ago) were the last two I actually enjoyed. I want to see more kooky experiments and science adjacent stuff! Less, but not zero, collabs as well. Just my humble opinion is all.
Traditional Colombian grima has a lot of continuos blade contact, I loved the drills they do but is a very different stile of grima for sure
Next episode: the Modern Rogue tries Capoeira.
I love the videos and have been watching for a while. But I can't stand the audio on the recent videos. It sounds like there's station whenever someone speaks.
Didn't expect to see my country over here lol
Yo sabía que en Quindío tienen el baile de macheteros y en Antioquia tienen las paradas del machete. Esto es nuevo...
(great: martial arts worldwide are about honor, form, strength...
Colombia? Pura maña...)
Nice stuff. Very interesting.
I'm just gald they wrote Colombia correctly.
I came to know Hatian Machete some 4 years ago. Now i meet colombian machete. Here in Brasil we have Makulelê. It's interesting how people from american continent developed consistent and similar fighting arts using the machete and stick. Perhaps is a true reflex of colonization and sugar econimics of the time. Now i'm wondering if Krabi-Krabong may be related to them.
Suuuper cool and interesting.
Oh man.. Love dude's necklace, just like a forged raptor claw..... I could hammer one out in about half an hour..
Something that you guys didn't get to see much is the whole ritual of grinding your machete with the pavement, which is more of an intimidation tactic and show on streetfights. AND BOY OH BOY its a spectacle!
It's a lot more impressive if you watch this video in 1.5 times regular speed! 😲😲😲
I thought the instructor may have been a capoeirista. Very cool
Nightwing approves. Great video guys! That was beautiful.
We have a style of fighting similar to this that develop from the slave trade...in Puerto Rico it's called bastón y daga. Not to be confused with GUASABARA (which is another machete stick fighting style of mostly Taino/Kalingo culture)
I think one video the modern rogue is definitely missing is tracking in the woods.
Say you’re on the run from the bad guys, how do you hide better?
Say you’re lost in the woods and following your food.
Maybe it’s just a good old fashioned chase.
Just think it would be a cool skill to know.
ATX combat sports represent!
Da'Mon, excellent scholar of ethnic fencing from Latinamerica and African cultures
It's "Machet-eh" my dude. The last "e" is not silent in either Spanish, Colombian Spanish or the particular accent of people that live in Cali. I mean, I GUESS it's possible that the people by the coast could eat their ending vowels, I've never been there, but if they did we would have been making fun of them all along.
Jason's a Harry Dresden fan so he should know Murphy was an eskrima student iirc
A bordón its basicly a cane, for people with dificult to walk. bastón or bordón, have the same meaning, bordón ita a more old word, mostly used for alod people. Also, its very common, that people who work on the field, specially cleannig grass from big properties, use a caneto move the grass and swing with the machete to cut the botton of the grass and clean the area. In Costa Rica and in many countries arround its very usual. so i guess part of the root of this esgrima style have this background.
excellent instructor
I'm far from an expert on this, but it was interesting how much the single machete section called to mind something like Polish saber fencing. Different cultures, but it looks like they reached similar conclusions.
I mean same body mechanics, some asian martial arts works better to short stack people, slavics ones with the talls but in the end same specie same phisics
The similarities comes from the fact that our bodies can only move in certain ways and certain motions are very easy to do. It's amazing that despite all the worlds different martial arts that at the root they're always going to have base similarities because we're all human.
Love Da'mon!!!!
Honestly I thought the first part was boring but once the students started working and they started sparring with the master.... well I wish more Modern Rogue had that.