Another great review! I feel like I've looked at GD floor plans a hundred times. Had no idea this one had the desk area! That is really cool! As a fully remote worker looking for an TT to full-time in, kind of crazy how few manufacturers are thinking about desk space.
This is my favorite Grand Design floor plan. I prefer this length for towing and going for working on the road/remote work from home. This and Cougar are my top two favorites and trying to decide which one, I want. Appreciate the awesome job on the videos. Your videos are very informative.
Hello Josh, We just picked up a 2670MK in February. Been out three times so far. Excellent couples trailer. We probably have only 70 % of available storage filled. We actually like ours with the theater seats and dinette. My wife loves the heated theater seat availability. We also like the cushions on the dinette to lean against as opposed to table chairs, but that’s just us. We use the desk for a coffee bar, we are retired and don’t actually need a desk. We put a plastic tote where the seat for the desk would be and use it for our camp recycle ♻️. We also appreciate the R40 ceiling and R30 underbelly insulation. We appreciate the trailer coming equipped with the Good Year tires already. At least ours came with them. We give this trailer a “two thumbs up”.
So glad to finally get your thoughts on this one!! In addition to the fan and cabinet doors, I wish they would include the bigger oven/propane tanks and remove the carpet for the $ amount on these.
We have the 2021 version of this trailer and absolutely love it! The opposing slides makes a huge difference in the interior spaciousness. We are empty nesters but have many years until retirement so having the desk is perfect.
@17:41 Depends what ur rear ratio is on ur half-ton truck. Mine has a 3.92 rear which gives me a tow-ability of just over 11,000 lbs. However it will require higher engine RPM's for any given speed which results in lower fuel economy.
Josh, you’re definitely more of an open cabinets in the bathroom and no door shade critic than me🤣🤣I’m the plastic toilet, dollar store vent fan, no shower surround panel, no standard TV, 2 sewer hookups and no ladder critic👍👍I would also prefer theater seats and table and chairs as they are not only more comfortable but they also give you a little buffer from unexpected visitors looking for some overnight accommodations🥴🥴
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh man what a good idea! I’d love a theater seat with fold out trays for TV dinner nights and swap the dinette for a desk! What a great substitute for those who might not use the dinette!
We have the Jayco 28RBKS with opposing slides like this on and we use the "if the steps can fold out the kitchen slide can be opened for travel access" rule and never have any issues for quick travel stops. The storage available in this one is massive as is the storage in our Jayco. So much in fact that we really only have the storage about 50-60% utilized. Awesome rig just a little more than what we need as a retired couple.
Hi Josh, excellent review.. wanted to let you know that's not a shelf above the griddle, it folds up to act as a backsplash/heatshield. I suppose you could use it as a shelf, at the risk of over exposure of heat.
Thanks for reviewing this model! we have eagerly been waiting for this specific review since it is #1 on our list (once the kids move out in a couple years). The desk, the counter space, the windows, the outside kitchen, and the storage are amazing to have together without going to a 5th wheel. Also glad to see it's a single drain pipe. We plan to keep the Hide-a-bed sofa but go with a free standing table. And we prefer queen sized over kings. Thanks again!
Grand Design, you build high quality trailers! My suggestions for improvements would be: 1. Power towers in counters rather than under cabinets as they don't usually accommodate many appliance cords 2. Eliminate carpet in slides, particularly under dining tables/booths 3. Add additional fabric options
We have the Alta East to West 2810kik you mentioned in the Video. Its the same floor plan but its has 3 advantages I see right off the bat. 1. King Bed is Standard. 2. Power leveling jacks on all 4 corners. 3. The bedroom has a regular door. So the Tv mount is on the wall directly in front of the bed where it should be. On this unit the barn door is in the way. The two tiny advantages I see on this unit are. 1. The Griddle vs ours has the Capital Grill. It sucks. But we can and others have already swapped it out for a griddle. 2. The two big drawers under the bedrooms large wardrobe. Our wardrobe is taller so we can put shoes and crap on the bottom and the shirts and pants hanging don't hit them. So we use it for shoe storage. Also there are two drawers under the bed itself which is really nice. Grand Design is a nice unit but I would defiantly go with the Alta 2810 kik if you can find one.
25:50 You are the absolute best resource for useful reviews. Thanks so much for pointing out the low cargo capacity. Being full time nomads we’ve learned how limiting it can be when wanting to add solar or upgrade the mattress or all the other lifestyle trade offs that have to be considered.
Very nice floorplan. Great to have all that kitchen counterspace. I am also glad to see they took the time and effort to plumb all the sewage feeds to one outlet. They even ran the sewage pipe over the axle, which everyone nowdays says can't be done. "Imagine" that! Perhaps the other manufacturers should take notice of this. I would be very hesitant to buy an RV with multiple sewage outlets but that's just me.
I like that it has a camp kitchen. Definitely want table and chairs over a dinette. I'm loving they are adding desks to more trailers/5ers. Still not a fan of televators. Also would prefer the floor plan mirrored so the big windows are door side. But, for what it is, it's NICE. I like the GK models most so far.
I had heard a lot of customers in my previous travels ask about this one. On paper the floor plan didn’t seem like anything too special. But walking through it I finally understood what it was about this RV that interested them
...good thing about the 2670MK for Buyers is there are lots of these available out there right now, 300+ on RV Trader...give it until end of year and there will be a pretty good discount...
I have Zero carpet and love it. Broom is much quicker than pulling out a mini vac, cleaning the filter. Hair and pets no carpet. I have always liked grand design they always go a step above in design details.
I like the dinette as is but what you said about the table and chairs and being able to pull a chair over to the desk area is a very good point. I do want to swap out the sleeper couch for a entertainment seating sofa style. I also agree put doors on the bathroom cubbies. I like the bedroom as it is.queen bed is GREAT 👍
Lots to like in this unit. LOVE that someone finally included a DESK. Been asking for that for a couple of years, now. Also love all the storage. The bedroom is kind of a "meh," but I like the rest of the floor-plan. And I don't think you have to put the slide out mid-trip if you just plan ahead to use that outdoor kitchen. After all, you can still access the bathroom and bedroom and those are the primaries for those overnight stops in the Walmart parking lot. Overall, nice rig. But way too heavy for my truck. As long as you're in Iowa (not far from me), how about showing us what they have for smaller units (mid-size truck towable...)? :D
Not sure GD has a lot for midsize pickups at this time. I actually know of a product they designed pre-quarantine but never built (yet) that would work though lol
Josh, take it from a Michigander who has lived in Iowa now for 20+ years: it is ALWAYS windy in Iowa compared to our home mitten state. Iowa is colder and windier by far. My wife and I have a phrase we use all year: IOWA BLOWS!🌬
Nice trailer....but the teeny tiny oven will always be a deal breaker for me. It will literally only fit a small pan for maybe 4 biscuits. I hope manufacturers start considering larger ovens for trailers this size.
This might be the layout! I'm wanting a desk, dinette, theatre seats (or love seat) and all those windows! When we find our fully remote jobs, this might be the one we come for.
love the review, thanks! we recently bought this model, and a regular-sized rolling office chair with arms fits perfectly under the desk. Just have to reposition it when putting slides in.
"Imagine, if you will, being a part of the Grand Design!" No jokes about the plaid, this time. I've beaten that dead horse way too long. This is likely on the top of my list as a favorite pull-behind.
For the length you really can't beat it for a couples unit the 320mks with the extra couch is nice but that would make this 36ft so understandable. Sense Winnebago took over I have noticed alot more use of swintec for the slides kinda iffy on some the units for me just gotta pay attention when operating👍👍
I've never heard Winnebago really having any influence on GD. I think when they acquired GD into their family they realized the best thing they could do is just stay out of the way. TO MY KNOWLEDGE (which could be wrong) anything GD is designing is their own choice
This is very nice, I love the desk. I would do a table and chairs instead of the dinette. Couch or theater seating, either way. Love the hanging space in the bedroom. This is one I could see myself in after retirement.
Wow Josh. Every Time I’m ready to pull the trigger you mix my head up. Now I have to pick between 2 Grand Design modes. Their name fits as all they seem to care about is space and that’s awesome.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Grand Design 260RB. That’s the one I think I’m leaning towards. By the way, hate to say this, but Big John hasn’t got back to me after a couple calls. He’s on vacation or something? Hope he’s ok. My name is Mark K by the way in case you speak to him.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh is there a way for me to get in touch with you somehow? I have 3 weeks before my lease ends in this apartment (Long Island NY) and need to be in an RV by then. With your amazing work, I’m so confused as there’s so many options. Any way we can chat on the phone for a few minutes and you can help me decide based on what I’m looking for? As mentioned, the 260RB seems amazing and that’s what I’m leaning towards, but you keep posting more and more videos which makes me more and more confused lol. Let me know. Thanks Josh!
I like it a lot but it is very low on cargo capacity. Wish the televator, also had pivot functions. Also wish it was carpetless but not a deal breaker for me. I do not like the placement of the electrical wiring under the bathroom, but that is a simple fix of water proofing over it. I would like either table and chairs with a sofa or theater with a booth. Like the interior coloring. Absolutely love the single outlet for sewer. --- Separate question, you mentioned barely half ton tow-able based on it's length as a 26ft, how would a 3/4 ton prevent wind issues vs a 1/2 ton?
So the first thing I need to point out is this is not a 26ft RV. I suspect that model number has shaped your expectation of this one. It's 32ft long tip to tail. It's at the size/weight where I don't feel right just saying "Oh yeah it's half ton towable" like a lot of people. Especially when you consider things like NASTY cross-winds, horsepower loss at elevations many half-tons suffer, etc SOME half-tons will handle it. Certainly. Some will not. It's size where you really need to investigate the half-ton in question individually. 3/4's have a stiffer suspension that is not as easily pushed around vs. half-tons typically. Additionally, the truck itself commonly physically weighs more and is not as easily shoved by a sailboat of a camper
I have an F150 and a Chevy 2500. The difference in towing something like a long enclosed trailer is radical. The F150 certainly has the HP to tow this unit but the 2500 has a much more sturdy suspension and doesn't allow things to get "squirrely". We have a modified pontoon boat that isn't really very heavy but is about like pulling a giant sail. The F150 just doesn't handle it nearly as well.
You can tow it with one half ton truck with the following specs. Forget the ford its too light and folks complain about the wind throwing it around. 5th Gen (2019 and up) Ram 1500 Limited with the tow package and the 3.92 gears. The 5th gen is significantly larger than the 4th gen and the fords. The limited has auto air suspension and it auto levels the trailer. However if you have the correct anti sway weight distribution the auto air will barley have to adjust as it will be level after setting it up the hitch properly. Our truck and trailer are perfect. Zero sag. Almost every 2500 and up we see going down the road and pulling into the campsites sag a decent amount. The 3.92 gears are a game changer and a must for towing . Our truck can tow about 11700 pounds. We are close to maxed out on payload with full gear and passengers but still within specs. Since that truck is very expensive I must suggest you go with a used 2500.
I had a chance to get one recorded but ran out of time on a trip. Hopefully I can get back to one of my GD-carrying sister stores soon to make that happen! :)
This is one of the few TTs I considered while doing my research. If I can't/don't get me an ORV TT, then this is definitely in the top 3 choices for second runner-up.
On a U shape, you could still have 2 pull out drawers and the back lift up for storage of table and a few blankets!????? Just saying, we lived in a 5th wheel for two years with our kids! Storage is a must!
This Grand Design rig is simply DEVOON Josh and I ain't just Vooning! Fantastic design and you are right that the camp side slide out is definitely able to add to travel access. I Love it. Thanks for the windbag show you gave from Iowa. Shades of Kansas, will in Florida
Dude. That wind was eye opening. I thought I knew high winds until I visited this place. It gave me a whole new understanding for towing in that stuff.
Uncle Josh must be working 150 hours/week!! Lol everytime I look at my phone these days there is a new rv review from you. I love it keep up the good work. I wanted a Reflection or Imagine but the BOSS said no to the colors. Thanks for the entertainment everyday!
Shawn, show the BOSS the clip talking about quality control. Josh made a good point about the post production inspection facility. Plus it’s hard to beat the GD insulation quality ....... if she doesn’t like being hot in summer or cold in fall/ early spring. JMO.
@@MikeyMK-ct7jr unfortunately I did we ended up buying a Forest River Vibe 34bh. It's a beautiful rig we will see how it stands up quality wise. Luckily I am an electrician and can fix just about anything if it breaks.
@@ShadowTek777 Our friends have a 2017 Vibe and like it. What really steered me to GD was the construction, insulation R values and holding tank capacities. Enjoy your rig!!
@@MikeyMK-ct7jr Thank you! We just need this one to last like 10 years then I can buy my Momentum toy hauler to travel in full time. Once the Littles move out lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd I always appreciate you doing that! That’s what makes me binge your videos and you’ve taught me so much since I subscribed. Keep kicking butt uncle Josh!
For the awning going overtop of the kitchen slide (a personal pet peeve, drives me nuts) you could bump the slide out a few inches, go up top and put a pool noodle on that edge and save your awning fabric.. And check your seals at the same time
yet another very nice one..... am glad i do not have a hell of a lot of money to spend on one, makes choosing much easier lol....cant choose what i can not afford..... for bedroom tv just put on swing arm tilted down a little, good enough, travel access ehh... good enough, do need to put out kitchen slide for most part if want to get to fridge, but not impossible with slide closed, put groceries on center counter, climb over dinette, then put groceries in fridge, if it opens the correct way. and you can use the rest except kitchen and desk in turtle mode, you do still have the outside kitchen regardless if need be with all closed, worst that happens is you have to cook outside and keep going outside for a beer, so usable enough in turtle mode. love the floorplan overall, great window coverage, nice desk with view, and so what if the tv and outside kitchen door block windows, if outside kitchen open, you are probably not staring at the back of the door from inside kitchen, you are outside already.... and if you have tv up in front of window, you are probably not too worried about what is outside atm anyway, unless game day in which case door open anyway... i kinda like setups where tv a bit higher with window right below it, but this is 2nd choice, with big window when tv down again good enough, probably rather have this way than tv over window in this particular one....chances are also that both windows being blocked at same time may be rather rare, if you outside, kitchen window blocked, but tv down.... inside tv window blocked but kitchen closed so can see out from kitchen, most of the time at least one will be clear view but who cares, there are windows everywhere as it is, great floorplan for not 5th wheel (and yes i did see the one referred to, remember it), just because i prefer toy hauler types does not mean i would not buy something else instead... i do not NEED space for toys, just bicycle, can toss that in the door if have to, or you could even make an alarmed secured bike rack for when parked you attach to the hooker cooker and power connection to prevent bicycle theft while sleeping, will certainly light up the area if anyone messes with your bike. .. and i do not really gamble either, i been in casino business 25 years, i know better... what i do do however is, if i go to a bar, you can either pay 5 dollars for a drink... or you can put 5 dollars in a poker/keno machine they have built in to the bar top, and get the drink for free (+tip ofcourse) and have a chance of breaking even or winning.... key is not to gamble more than that 5 bucks, unless you are ordering another drink, THEN put another 5 in the machine. .. typical scenerio where i go sometimes, put in 10 bucks, get 2 well drinks or 3 budwieser bottles.. am going to tip a few bucks either way i do it so price same regardless, except i might win 100... which means i drank for free and got paid 90 bucks to do it... rather than just spending 10 bucks outright... or i end up cashing 10 bucks out of the machine when done, 10 in, 10 out.... drank for free... all i spent was a couple dollars in tips... or 10 in 15 out... drank for free and tips did not cost me anything either... a free night out is ALWAYS a win, just do not start putting in more money than what you are drinking costs... the very worst that happens, is you paid full price for your drinks like you would have without gambling in the first place anyway.... so long as you follow that formula and do not get the gambling bug, and end up with 100 in the machine before first drink gone (which is exactly what most people do).... no no no.
The suggestion about using the space under the desk for a pet kennel just clicked with me plus I was thinking of good spot to also store extra supplies in totes and or the pet's food and water dish so out of the way and won't get kicked
I love having an outdoor kitchen. I always wonder why the manufactures don't include an inverter plug for the outdoor refrigerator. It would sure be nice to arrive at the campsite with cold beverages out there. Thank you for what you do Josh. You are my go-to resource for reviews! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the review, Josh! My wife and I really love this floorplan, but we want a King-sized bed. Is that an option in this model? If not, can you suggest a different model that provides the same features (island, desk, storage, travel access, etc.) and a King bed? Please advise...
Plenty of rigs now require you to open a slideout to get to the fridge. I guess you could say that that is part of the reason why solar panels are increasingly common from the factory.
OMG!!! I'm loving your videos today. Love the desk. You know how I feel about the booth, and in case you forgot, I love it. Although you do make a good point about having a chair for the desk. Regarding the table, I think if you turn that around the other side of the table might be more supported. I could be wrong but I believe that was the work around that I had seen in another camper I visited recently. Let me know if that is actually the case. Regarding the carpet in the slide, as a user of a trailer with carpetless slides and after using it regularly for 5 years I can say that the vinyl doesn't lay down well and when it does it has a tenancy to curl up on the edges. Not to mention if you step on the part that is laying over a corner it can poke through... I'm not sure how I feel about the carpet doing the same thing or not. I do have to say that even though I don't like the edges I think the benefit of the smooth floor is beneficial. But not a deal breaker either way. I think if I were to re-engineer mine I would opt for a hard edge like the kitchen side slide in this one has. With regard to the outdoor kitchen, I don't know why more manufacturers don't make that an inverter switch so that you can keep it on and store the critical things in it while traveling? How easy would that be? It would be the first outlet that I would put on the inverter if I were to change it out. Also, you could grab soda quickly at a stop without having to open the slide and get to the larger fridge inside. Just my opinion... Well, you asked... Great video again, thanks Josh!!! Pat
Definitely hate carpet under the eating area since we have kids. If everything else is great its not a complete deal breaker but I would definitely be looking for options to replace it.
I think more of these types of tt’s should have a convection/microwave and no stove. Let’s face it most of the ovens are worthless. Definitely a theater seats and table and chairs. The desk spot would be our coffee bar.
It may have changed last I knew prime time was actually doing a little bit of exactly what you’re describing. I know some folks certainly get some use out of ovens here and there but I personally would go for one exactly as you described it
A desk is awesome. But where was the outlets for my lap top and printer? I watched the part of the video that covered the desk twice, and didn’t see any outlets by the desk. I would definitely get the table and chairs 🪑 so a chair would be available for the work space. It does need a bigger fan in the bathroom. We were very impressed with this beauty. Thanks for the review.
Terre, there are two outlets above the desk. They sit at the bottom floor of the cabinets above the desk . Yea, I don’t get it either but at least we can plug in our coffee maker up there. We use it as a coffee bar. 😃
My thoughts on the half ton vs 3/4 ton ..first I'll let you know soon enough with a 3800BH and a half ton but my thoughts are ..besides the cargo capacity diff of the 3/4 vs 1/2 ton, 3/4 have a longer bed and a lot of half tons are short beds. My half ton has a crew cab and 6.5 bed making if pretty long. A longer wheelbase will have better tow experience.
I was in love until I saw that carpet in the slide. As a pipeline welder a lot of the places you end up are muddy and dirty, not to mention im muddy and dirty.
Is that desktop wonky or is it just me? I don't like the bed being boxed in like that. How much hanging storage do you need in a camper? Theater seats and table rather than dinette for me. The opposing slides really do the trick.
We love your videos. Can I ask is there a site were I can enter exactly what I want/don't want and the only ones that show up are what fits not just what is at a specific Dealer?
Really like this couples trailer with all that storage...you can never have too much Storage ( I copied that from you lol ). I'd opt for the Theater seating & Table/Chairs. Love all the new reviews on models I haven't seen or heard of yet.
You are the only person who puts the slides in so we can see the travel mode. Thanks you
Thank you for watching and sharing something kind!
I have been waiting for 3+ years for a Josh review of this great floorplan!!
Free Standing Dinette and Hide-a-bed.
lol I know man! I'm so glad I can FINALLY just give people what they want!
We just brought ours home on Monday and absolutely love it. It’s a beautiful rig!
You rock Uncle Josh! (will comment again once the other half and I can watch it together) Thanks for covering this one!
Another great review! I feel like I've looked at GD floor plans a hundred times. Had no idea this one had the desk area! That is really cool! As a fully remote worker looking for an TT to full-time in, kind of crazy how few manufacturers are thinking about desk space.
Yeah sometimes the floor plan alone just doesn’t give it the coverage it needs
This is my favorite Grand Design floor plan.
I prefer this length for towing and going for working on the road/remote work from home.
This and Cougar are my top two favorites and trying to decide which one, I want.
Appreciate the awesome job on the videos.
Your videos are very informative.
Ty Rod!!
Hello Josh, We just picked up a 2670MK in February. Been out three times so far. Excellent couples trailer. We probably have only 70 % of available storage filled. We actually like ours with the theater seats and dinette. My wife loves the heated theater seat availability. We also like the cushions on the dinette to lean against as opposed to table chairs, but that’s just us. We use the desk for a coffee bar, we are retired and don’t actually need a desk. We put a plastic tote where the seat for the desk would be and use it for our camp recycle ♻️. We also appreciate the R40 ceiling and R30 underbelly insulation. We appreciate the trailer coming equipped with the Good Year tires already. At least ours came with them. We give this trailer a “two thumbs up”.
Man this is awesome. TY! Would love to have you around future videos and share your experience and insights as owners!
Can I ask, what is your tow vehicle? Will a Dodge 1500 Classic Crewman Hemi 5.7 work with this do you know? Our hitch is class 4 10k lbs
Check the 17:30 area of video, he covers towing. 👍
@@kikibird03 Our truck is a 2021 F250 with 7.3L gas. We felt better going with the F250 compared to the 150 series. More stout frame and suspension.
@@MikeyMK-ct7jr thank you for that answer!
Grand design always impresses. I'd say theatre seats and chairs as well
TY!
So glad to finally get your thoughts on this one!! In addition to the fan and cabinet doors, I wish they would include the bigger oven/propane tanks and remove the carpet for the $ amount on these.
I love your reviews and sense of humor!! :) I would do away with the carpet on the slide out.
Ty 😊
We have the 2021 version of this trailer and absolutely love it! The opposing slides makes a huge difference in the interior spaciousness. We are empty nesters but have many years until retirement so having the desk is perfect.
Ty for sharing!
FINALLY, my 2670mk!! Thanks, Uncle Josh! (Now for the 23LDE...😂)
By request!!
Your the best thank you for always sharing and with excellent comedy this thing is beautiful
You know.. most of the time I'm not trying to be stupid. It just comes naturally!
@17:41
Depends what ur rear ratio is on ur half-ton truck. Mine has a 3.92 rear which gives me a tow-ability of just over 11,000 lbs.
However it will require higher engine RPM's for any given speed which results in lower fuel economy.
You can avoid the tipping table issue by rotating it so the round side is on the inside while sleeping.
Ty
Josh, you’re definitely more of an open cabinets in the bathroom and no door shade critic than me🤣🤣I’m the plastic toilet, dollar store vent fan, no shower surround panel, no standard TV, 2 sewer hookups and no ladder critic👍👍I would also prefer theater seats and table and chairs as they are not only more comfortable but they also give you a little buffer from unexpected visitors looking for some overnight accommodations🥴🥴
Having a desk station is one of my biggest issues with looking at any RV...they need to have this option more often.
I have been actively asking brand mangers to include a swaption in place of a common dinette. It could be SUPER helpful on so many floor plans
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh man what a good idea! I’d love a theater seat with fold out trays for TV dinner nights and swap the dinette for a desk! What a great substitute for those who might not use the dinette!
We have the Jayco 28RBKS with opposing slides like this on and we use the "if the steps can fold out the kitchen slide can be opened for travel access" rule and never have any issues for quick travel stops. The storage available in this one is massive as is the storage in our Jayco. So much in fact that we really only have the storage about 50-60% utilized. Awesome rig just a little more than what we need as a retired couple.
THANK YOU for sharing actual "in the field" experience there. I love hearing that my wacky ideas sometimes have some merit :)
My wife and i just love my grand design 31mb. Hands down the best buy we have made. Most of grand design models are amazing
Hi Josh, excellent review.. wanted to let you know that's not a shelf above the griddle, it folds up to act as a backsplash/heatshield. I suppose you could use it as a shelf, at the risk of over exposure of heat.
Thanks for the info!
Like a Rockwood 2720IK which has a bed slide?
Thanks Josh! This one is on my short list! I've seen a lot of videos on this model. Your review is the best...as usual!
Oh wow. TY Jim :)
Just about everything I’m looking for in a camper! Almost!
What’s it missing??
@@JoshtheRVNerd just saw the 22 Grand Design Imagine 2907 RL! That’s what was missing!! I hope I got the model number right! 😜😜
@@lynnfiegl4953 guessing 2970. Might have a video on that coming as well
Thanks for reviewing this model! we have eagerly been waiting for this specific review since it is #1 on our list (once the kids move out in a couple years). The desk, the counter space, the windows, the outside kitchen, and the storage are amazing to have together without going to a 5th wheel. Also glad to see it's a single drain pipe. We plan to keep the Hide-a-bed sofa but go with a free standing table. And we prefer queen sized over kings. Thanks again!
It was truly my pleasure. I see now what the buzz was all about on this one.
I own one, and I have to say, your review is the best I have seen. You really picked up on the details of this model. You are the best! Thanks!
Why don’t thank you very much! Next time somebody asks you about your camper just send them this video!
Grand Design, you build high quality trailers!
My suggestions for improvements would be:
1. Power towers in counters rather than under cabinets as they don't usually accommodate many appliance cords
2. Eliminate carpet in slides, particularly under dining tables/booths
3. Add additional fabric options
I like the power tower idea. Ty!!
Wow… beautiful trailer! Not a lot of cons here, all pros!!! Good job Grand Design 👍
High praise!
We have the Alta East to West 2810kik you mentioned in the Video. Its the same floor plan but its has 3 advantages I see right off the bat. 1. King Bed is Standard. 2. Power leveling jacks on all 4 corners. 3. The bedroom has a regular door. So the Tv mount is on the wall directly in front of the bed where it should be. On this unit the barn door is in the way.
The two tiny advantages I see on this unit are. 1. The Griddle vs ours has the Capital Grill. It sucks. But we can and others have already swapped it out for a griddle. 2. The two big drawers under the bedrooms large wardrobe. Our wardrobe is taller so we can put shoes and crap on the bottom and the shirts and pants hanging don't hit them. So we use it for shoe storage. Also there are two drawers under the bed itself which is really nice.
Grand Design is a nice unit but I would defiantly go with the Alta 2810 kik if you can find one.
...your Alta 2810kik almost looks exactly like the KZ Connect 292RDk....
Yeah I have been super impressed with what Alta is doing. Good call for comparison.
Love the styles and floor plans of the couples trailers and 5th wheels recently. So functional and Inviting!
Love this one !
25:50 You are the absolute best resource for useful reviews. Thanks so much for pointing out the low cargo capacity. Being full time nomads we’ve learned how limiting it can be when wanting to add solar or upgrade the mattress or all the other lifestyle trade offs that have to be considered.
Wow.. thank you
YES! i think this is my fav model… i wish grand design used azdel tho
That would be cool!
Alta 2810 kik does. Same floor plan but with a king bed. Check it out.
@@MR.TOYBOX i like that one, too! good eye, mrtoybox!
i think the ceiling height is taller
here but i might be wrong
Very nice floorplan. Great to have all that kitchen counterspace.
I am also glad to see they took the time and effort to plumb all the sewage feeds to one outlet. They even ran the sewage pipe over the axle, which everyone nowdays says can't be done. "Imagine" that! Perhaps the other manufacturers should take notice of this. I would be very hesitant to buy an RV with multiple sewage outlets but that's just me.
It really depends on where the tanks are located but yeah - the single sewer outlet surprised me
For example I am eaeae
I like that it has a camp kitchen. Definitely want table and chairs over a dinette. I'm loving they are adding desks to more trailers/5ers. Still not a fan of televators. Also would prefer the floor plan mirrored so the big windows are door side. But, for what it is, it's NICE. I like the GK models most so far.
I really like this Grand Design Travel Trailer,best one I've seen so far!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I had heard a lot of customers in my previous travels ask about this one. On paper the floor plan didn’t seem like anything too special. But walking through it I finally understood what it was about this RV that interested them
...good thing about the 2670MK for Buyers is there are lots of these available out there right now, 300+ on RV Trader...give it until end of year and there will be a pretty good discount...
Yeah inventories are healing nicely
I have Zero carpet and love it. Broom is much quicker than pulling out a mini vac, cleaning the filter. Hair and pets no carpet. I have always liked grand design they always go a step above in design details.
Theater seat + table and chairs. Then carry an air bed, MUCH more comfortable. Your guests will thank you!
Great video, Love the Imagine trailers.
Keep them coming, and the theater seats all day long.
Thanks
I’ll do my best to get a few more!
You have to turn the dinette table around so the curved part is against the wall and it won’t tip over
I like the dinette as is but what you said about the table and chairs and being able to pull a chair over to the desk area is a very good point. I do want to swap out the sleeper couch for a entertainment seating sofa style. I also agree put doors on the bathroom cubbies. I like the bedroom as it is.queen bed is GREAT 👍
Lots to like in this unit. LOVE that someone finally included a DESK. Been asking for that for a couple of years, now. Also love all the storage. The bedroom is kind of a "meh," but I like the rest of the floor-plan. And I don't think you have to put the slide out mid-trip if you just plan ahead to use that outdoor kitchen. After all, you can still access the bathroom and bedroom and those are the primaries for those overnight stops in the Walmart parking lot. Overall, nice rig. But way too heavy for my truck. As long as you're in Iowa (not far from me), how about showing us what they have for smaller units (mid-size truck towable...)? :D
Not sure GD has a lot for midsize pickups at this time. I actually know of a product they designed pre-quarantine but never built (yet) that would work though lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd Of course. LOL
Oh, and it doesn't have to be GD. LOL
I didn’t see any receptacles at desk area. No white cabinets in kitchen -fantastic!
Receptacles are at base of cabinets above desk. You’ll have to plug in up there for computer or printer.
Josh, take it from a Michigander who has lived in Iowa now for 20+ years: it is ALWAYS windy in Iowa compared to our home mitten state. Iowa is colder and windier by far. My wife and I have a phrase we use all year: IOWA BLOWS!🌬
Lol
I loved the people there
But that wind…
@@JoshtheRVNerd It never ends - seriously.
Great tour on this one looks Pretty darn nice to me thanks again Josh.
Nice trailer....but the teeny tiny oven will always be a deal breaker for me. It will literally only fit a small pan for maybe 4 biscuits. I hope manufacturers start considering larger ovens for trailers this size.
Very nice floor plan.
Awesome , Storage & camper. Ty Josh
A desk!!! Very much like this! I'd be in favor of the theater seats and table/chairs options though.
This might be the layout! I'm wanting a desk, dinette, theatre seats (or love seat) and all those windows! When we find our fully remote jobs, this might be the one we come for.
love the review, thanks! we recently bought this model, and a regular-sized rolling office chair with arms fits perfectly under the desk. Just have to reposition it when putting slides in.
Nice!!
0:08 😏 I like how you’re rocking a Winnebago jacket while touring a Grand Design 🫢🤭😁
😉
"Imagine, if you will, being a part of the Grand Design!" No jokes about the plaid, this time. I've beaten that dead horse way too long. This is likely on the top of my list as a favorite pull-behind.
Lol keep the same jokes coming man. I don’t care
For the length you really can't beat it for a couples unit the 320mks with the extra couch is nice but that would make this 36ft so understandable. Sense Winnebago took over I have noticed alot more use of swintec for the slides kinda iffy on some the units for me just gotta pay attention when operating👍👍
I've never heard Winnebago really having any influence on GD. I think when they acquired GD into their family they realized the best thing they could do is just stay out of the way. TO MY KNOWLEDGE (which could be wrong) anything GD is designing is their own choice
Awesome camper. Recliners and table, chairs👍. Wish they would put cabinet doors in bathroom but not a deal breaker. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Front windshields are so cool!
This is very nice, I love the desk. I would do a table and chairs instead of the dinette. Couch or theater seating, either way. Love the hanging space in the bedroom. This is one I could see myself in after retirement.
Wow Josh. Every Time I’m ready to pull the trigger you mix my head up. Now I have to pick between 2 Grand Design modes. Their name fits as all they seem to care about is space and that’s awesome.
What's the other?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Grand Design 260RB. That’s the one I think I’m leaning towards. By the way, hate to say this, but Big John hasn’t got back to me after a couple calls. He’s on vacation or something? Hope he’s ok. My name is Mark K by the way in case you speak to him.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh is there a way for me to get in touch with you somehow? I have 3 weeks before my lease ends in this apartment (Long Island NY) and need to be in an RV by then. With your amazing work, I’m so confused as there’s so many options. Any way we can chat on the phone for a few minutes and you can help me decide based on what I’m looking for? As mentioned, the 260RB seems amazing and that’s what I’m leaning towards, but you keep posting more and more videos which makes me more and more confused lol. Let me know. Thanks Josh!
No crazy design valances -Fantastic!
Theater seat and table chairs
I like it a lot but it is very low on cargo capacity. Wish the televator, also had pivot functions. Also wish it was carpetless but not a deal breaker for me. I do not like the placement of the electrical wiring under the bathroom, but that is a simple fix of water proofing over it. I would like either table and chairs with a sofa or theater with a booth. Like the interior coloring. Absolutely love the single outlet for sewer. --- Separate question, you mentioned barely half ton tow-able based on it's length as a 26ft, how would a 3/4 ton prevent wind issues vs a 1/2 ton?
So the first thing I need to point out is this is not a 26ft RV. I suspect that model number has shaped your expectation of this one. It's 32ft long tip to tail.
It's at the size/weight where I don't feel right just saying "Oh yeah it's half ton towable" like a lot of people. Especially when you consider things like NASTY cross-winds, horsepower loss at elevations many half-tons suffer, etc
SOME half-tons will handle it. Certainly. Some will not. It's size where you really need to investigate the half-ton in question individually.
3/4's have a stiffer suspension that is not as easily pushed around vs. half-tons typically. Additionally, the truck itself commonly physically weighs more and is not as easily shoved by a sailboat of a camper
I have an F150 and a Chevy 2500. The difference in towing something like a long enclosed trailer is radical. The F150 certainly has the HP to tow this unit but the 2500 has a much more sturdy suspension and doesn't allow things to get "squirrely". We have a modified pontoon boat that isn't really very heavy but is about like pulling a giant sail. The F150 just doesn't handle it nearly as well.
Jack, are you referring to the pass through capacity when you say cargo ?
You can tow it with one half ton truck with the following specs. Forget the ford its too light and folks complain about the wind throwing it around. 5th Gen (2019 and up) Ram 1500 Limited with the tow package and the 3.92 gears. The 5th gen is significantly larger than the 4th gen and the fords. The limited has auto air suspension and it auto levels the trailer. However if you have the correct anti sway weight distribution the auto air will barley have to adjust as it will be level after setting it up the hitch properly. Our truck and trailer are perfect. Zero sag. Almost every 2500 and up we see going down the road and pulling into the campsites sag a decent amount. The 3.92 gears are a game changer and a must for towing . Our truck can tow about 11700 pounds. We are close to maxed out on payload with full gear and passengers but still within specs. Since that truck is very expensive I must suggest you go with a used 2500.
Id like to see the imagine 2400 bh. Your reviews are great, this is the one we are looking at and have no dealers very close.
I had a chance to get one recorded but ran out of time on a trip. Hopefully I can get back to one of my GD-carrying sister stores soon to make that happen! :)
I love this design, wonder if a f150 max tow would handle this ok
would love to know myself
This is one of the few TTs I considered while doing my research. If I can't/don't get me an ORV TT, then this is definitely in the top 3 choices for second runner-up.
Man.. can't fault you for having great taste! :)
On a U shape, you could still have 2 pull out drawers and the back lift up for storage of table and a few blankets!????? Just saying, we lived in a 5th wheel for two years with our kids! Storage is a must!
Having an outlet anywhere near the desk would have also been cool.
There are outlets under the overhead cabinets. Apologies I didn’t point that out
@@JoshtheRVNerd interesting. I just purchased this model and didn’t see it up there. I’ll have to look again after work. Thanks!
This Grand Design rig is simply DEVOON Josh and I ain't just Vooning! Fantastic design and you are right that the camp side slide out is definitely able to add to travel access. I Love it. Thanks for the windbag show you gave from Iowa. Shades of Kansas, will in Florida
Dude. That wind was eye opening. I thought I knew high winds until I visited this place. It gave me a whole new understanding for towing in that stuff.
REALLY surprised that Josh went up on that roof for the video. That wind would have thrown my 150 lb frame off that roof !!
Uncle Josh must be working 150 hours/week!! Lol everytime I look at my phone these days there is a new rv review from you. I love it keep up the good work. I wanted a Reflection or Imagine but the BOSS said no to the colors. Thanks for the entertainment everyday!
I'm enjoying all the stuff I get to cover now that's for sure! :)
Shawn, show the BOSS the clip talking about quality control. Josh made a good point about the post production inspection facility. Plus it’s hard to beat the GD insulation quality ....... if she doesn’t like being hot in summer or cold in fall/ early spring. JMO.
@@MikeyMK-ct7jr unfortunately I did we ended up buying a Forest River Vibe 34bh. It's a beautiful rig we will see how it stands up quality wise. Luckily I am an electrician and can fix just about anything if it breaks.
@@ShadowTek777 Our friends have a 2017 Vibe and like it. What really steered me to GD was the construction, insulation R values and holding tank capacities. Enjoy your rig!!
@@MikeyMK-ct7jr Thank you! We just need this one to last like 10 years then I can buy my Momentum toy hauler to travel in full time. Once the Littles move out lol
Road mode losing the kitchen killed this one for me
I get it - but that's why I take the time to show them that way. So you better know what you're getting
@@JoshtheRVNerd I always appreciate you doing that! That’s what makes me binge your videos and you’ve taught me so much since I subscribed. Keep kicking butt uncle Josh!
It is a nice trailer. CCC is way to low for it's size.
I hear that fairly regularly on GD units. This one did jump out at me specifically though
For the awning going overtop of the kitchen slide (a personal pet peeve, drives me nuts) you could bump the slide out a few inches, go up top and put a pool noodle on that edge and save your awning fabric.. And check your seals at the same time
I don't see why not
Perfect for a single full timer
This thing's a beast. I really liked it far more than I expected
What would be great, instead of the dinette, a U shape seat with a table that you can have up or stow in the bench section of seat.
Smooth walled showers please.
yet another very nice one..... am glad i do not have a hell of a lot of money to spend on one, makes choosing much easier lol....cant choose what i can not afford..... for bedroom tv just put on swing arm tilted down a little, good enough, travel access ehh... good enough, do need to put out kitchen slide for most part if want to get to fridge, but not impossible with slide closed, put groceries on center counter, climb over dinette, then put groceries in fridge, if it opens the correct way. and you can use the rest except kitchen and desk in turtle mode, you do still have the outside kitchen regardless if need be with all closed, worst that happens is you have to cook outside and keep going outside for a beer, so usable enough in turtle mode. love the floorplan overall, great window coverage, nice desk with view, and so what if the tv and outside kitchen door block windows, if outside kitchen open, you are probably not staring at the back of the door from inside kitchen, you are outside already.... and if you have tv up in front of window, you are probably not too worried about what is outside atm anyway, unless game day in which case door open anyway... i kinda like setups where tv a bit higher with window right below it, but this is 2nd choice, with big window when tv down again good enough, probably rather have this way than tv over window in this particular one....chances are also that both windows being blocked at same time may be rather rare, if you outside, kitchen window blocked, but tv down.... inside tv window blocked but kitchen closed so can see out from kitchen, most of the time at least one will be clear view but who cares, there are windows everywhere as it is, great floorplan for not 5th wheel (and yes i did see the one referred to, remember it), just because i prefer toy hauler types does not mean i would not buy something else instead... i do not NEED space for toys, just bicycle, can toss that in the door if have to, or you could even make an alarmed secured bike rack for when parked you attach to the hooker cooker and power connection to prevent bicycle theft while sleeping, will certainly light up the area if anyone messes with your bike. .. and i do not really gamble either, i been in casino business 25 years, i know better... what i do do however is, if i go to a bar, you can either pay 5 dollars for a drink... or you can put 5 dollars in a poker/keno machine they have built in to the bar top, and get the drink for free (+tip ofcourse) and have a chance of breaking even or winning.... key is not to gamble more than that 5 bucks, unless you are ordering another drink, THEN put another 5 in the machine. .. typical scenerio where i go sometimes, put in 10 bucks, get 2 well drinks or 3 budwieser bottles.. am going to tip a few bucks either way i do it so price same regardless, except i might win 100... which means i drank for free and got paid 90 bucks to do it... rather than just spending 10 bucks outright... or i end up cashing 10 bucks out of the machine when done, 10 in, 10 out.... drank for free... all i spent was a couple dollars in tips... or 10 in 15 out... drank for free and tips did not cost me anything either... a free night out is ALWAYS a win, just do not start putting in more money than what you are drinking costs... the very worst that happens, is you paid full price for your drinks like you would have without gambling in the first place anyway.... so long as you follow that formula and do not get the gambling bug, and end up with 100 in the machine before first drink gone (which is exactly what most people do).... no no no.
Whenever I’m involved it’s never gambling… It’s just losing lol
Love this trailer and 32' is perfect for full timing. I am surprised that there are no awnings over the slides.
They could be added
In a windy place like Iowa where this was recorded you actually wouldn’t want them
I want this one !
Nice pick! I *REALLY* liked that model
The suggestion about using the space under the desk for a pet kennel just clicked with me plus I was thinking of good spot to also store extra supplies in totes and or the pet's food and water dish so out of the way and won't get kicked
Smart
I love having an outdoor kitchen. I always wonder why the manufactures don't include an inverter plug for the outdoor refrigerator. It would sure be nice to arrive at the campsite with cold beverages out there.
Thank you for what you do Josh. You are my go-to resource for reviews! Keep up the great work.
Thankfully more brains are starting to do that. Ember generally does a very good job of it
Rockwood and Jayco are starting to get better
Not a fan of the dinette, but like the rest of the camper, thanks for showing it to us!
Thanks for the review, Josh! My wife and I really love this floorplan, but we want a King-sized bed. Is that an option in this model? If not, can you suggest a different model that provides the same features (island, desk, storage, travel access, etc.) and a King bed? Please advise...
It is not I’m afraid. They’re still queen only
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks!
Thanks for another great review
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Plenty of rigs now require you to open a slideout to get to the fridge. I guess you could say that that is part of the reason why solar panels are increasingly common from the factory.
Was that an awning support next to the front door ? Almost perfect except no outside storage doors for dinette :)
You know.. I didn’t even notice the dinette ends.. wow. Ty
Theater seat with dinette. Great review.
Thanks!
OMG!!! I'm loving your videos today. Love the desk. You know how I feel about the booth, and in case you forgot, I love it.
Although you do make a good point about having a chair for the desk. Regarding the table, I think if you turn that around the other side of the table might be more supported. I could be wrong but I believe that was the work around that I had seen in another camper I visited recently. Let me know if that is actually the case.
Regarding the carpet in the slide, as a user of a trailer with carpetless slides and after using it regularly for 5 years I can say that the vinyl doesn't lay down well and when it does it has a tenancy to curl up on the edges. Not to mention if you step on the part that is laying over a corner it can poke through... I'm not sure how I feel about the carpet doing the same thing or not. I do have to say that even though I don't like the edges I think the benefit of the smooth floor is beneficial. But not a deal breaker either way. I think if I were to re-engineer mine I would opt for a hard edge like the kitchen side slide in this one has.
With regard to the outdoor kitchen, I don't know why more manufacturers don't make that an inverter switch so that you can keep it on and store the critical things in it while traveling? How easy would that be? It would be the first outlet that I would put on the inverter if I were to change it out. Also, you could grab soda quickly at a stop without having to open the slide and get to the larger fridge inside.
Just my opinion... Well, you asked... Great video again, thanks Josh!!!
Pat
Thankfully I am seeing more and more builders connecting outside fridges to inverters but it’s certainly still the exception rather than the rule
Definitely hate carpet under the eating area since we have kids. If everything else is great its not a complete deal breaker but I would definitely be looking for options to replace it.
thank you i think this is the one for me!
Awesome! Let us know how we can assist you!!
I think more of these types of tt’s should have a convection/microwave and no stove. Let’s face it most of the ovens are worthless. Definitely a theater seats and table and chairs. The desk spot would be our coffee bar.
It may have changed last I knew prime time was actually doing a little bit of exactly what you’re describing. I know some folks certainly get some use out of ovens here and there but I personally would go for one exactly as you described it
The dinette should be even with the wall of it sticks out to far it looks like QC was out to lunch 😮!
I am a master at diagnosing electrical issues LOL.
I'd imagine so! :)
A desk is awesome. But where was the outlets for my lap top and printer? I watched the part of the video that covered the desk twice, and didn’t see any outlets by the desk. I would definitely get the table and chairs 🪑 so a chair would be available for the work space. It does need a bigger fan in the bathroom. We were very impressed with this beauty. Thanks for the review.
Terre, there are two outlets above the desk. They sit at the bottom floor of the cabinets above the desk . Yea, I don’t get it either but at least we can plug in our coffee maker up there. We use it as a coffee bar. 😃
I was wondering the same thing about outlets for the desk.
My thoughts on the half ton vs 3/4 ton ..first I'll let you know soon enough with a 3800BH and a half ton but my thoughts are ..besides the cargo capacity diff of the 3/4 vs 1/2 ton, 3/4 have a longer bed and a lot of half tons are short beds. My half ton has a crew cab and 6.5 bed making if pretty long. A longer wheelbase will have better tow experience.
Yep. Longer vehicle offers better command
I was in love until I saw that carpet in the slide. As a pipeline welder a lot of the places you end up are muddy and dirty, not to mention im muddy and dirty.
Hah fair enough
Is that desktop wonky or is it just me?
I don't like the bed being boxed in like that.
How much hanging storage do you need in a camper?
Theater seats and table rather than dinette for me.
The opposing slides really do the trick.
Bigger ovens please.
Love the counter space, nice rig but I'm not a fan of the carpet in the slide anymore. Thank you for the review!
My pleasure!
We love your videos. Can I ask is there a site were I can enter exactly what I want/don't want and the only ones that show up are what fits not just what is at a specific Dealer?
Depends on what sort of filtering you’re seeking. I don’t believe there’s something that lets you choose stuff like fireplace for example
Bedroom closet slideouts are worth the extra $ & weight!
Really like this couples trailer with all that storage...you can never have too much Storage ( I copied that from you lol ). I'd opt for the Theater seating & Table/Chairs. Love all the new reviews on models I haven't seen or heard of yet.
You've certainly been paying attention during class :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😉
Loved it. Don't work too hard.
TY :)