The Edge of London & Hangman's Hill

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Back through Epping Forest from Woodford across Chingford Plain to Fernhills and an encounter with the legend of Hangman's Hill near High Beach. Finally finding the location of a painting by Jacob Epstein at Baldwin's Hill.
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Комментарии • 83

  • @ginagibbs1775
    @ginagibbs1775 2 года назад +2

    Great to see more of my old haunts, many happy memories of riding in that area in my teens.

  • @angelailovekeepingupappear2466
    @angelailovekeepingupappear2466 2 года назад +1

    A lovely way to spend my Evenings watching your lovely videos

  • @JTTW1455
    @JTTW1455 2 месяца назад

    Another enchanting walk. Thank you.

  • @Darren14
    @Darren14 3 года назад +1

    Loved fishing Baldwins Hill Pond

  • @rubbishrider3309
    @rubbishrider3309 7 лет назад +4

    Great to see the legend of Hangman's still lives on, certainly a well driven pilgrimage for my generation in the late 80s.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад +1

      Since I went there on Friday it's funny how many people have mentioned that they used to go there in their youth

    • @rubbishrider3309
      @rubbishrider3309 7 лет назад

      John Rogers It was all about getting to High Beach and how fast your FS1E (50cc mopeds) could go, about 50mph, down on the tank with wind behind you :)

  • @jenniferlevine5406
    @jenniferlevine5406 Год назад

    Just rewatching this one tonight. I love this walk and if I am fortunate enough to visit London, this is one of the walks I would like to experience.

  • @davej661
    @davej661 7 лет назад +4

    Another great film showing the best of North east London, Baldwins hill pond and the Lost pond are two different ponds but very close to one another. The lost pond is always harder to find!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Thanks Dave - damn, I half-suspected that was the case but only had Baldwins on my map. Is the Lost Pond along the Loughton Brook, the lady recommended that I follow it?

    • @davej661
      @davej661 7 лет назад

      Id say its a little further north along Loughton Brook but then slightly West, I'm not sure its directly on the brook but may feed it somehow. Ironically it is marked on Google Maps so perhaps not so lost now!

    • @duncanabbot8352
      @duncanabbot8352 7 лет назад

      The Lost Pond is shown on the Explorer 174 OS Map as Blackweir Pond for some reason. Grid ref: 424978

    • @shannew7544
      @shannew7544 3 года назад

      @@JohnRogersWalks The Lost Pond is higher up than Baldwin's - I've walked both regularly, and more recently geocaching. I tripped over this video after walking out from Epping to visit Hangman's Hill, what was the police air transport near the Owl and that path with a view over the Lee Valley yesterday. We walked back over to Buckhurst Hill and got the tube home.

  • @howdymartin6258
    @howdymartin6258 3 года назад +1

    Another great walk -- and at 16-20 a pub that I have drunk in many times -- thank you John

  • @ThePORTYDAVE
    @ThePORTYDAVE 4 года назад +4

    Great film, John, really enjoyed it (and the soundtrack). There's the Electric Brae outside Ayr which has a similar illusion to Hangman's Hill. My granda would take us out there in his car.

  • @Good_Karma222
    @Good_Karma222 6 лет назад +5

    Brilliant video. I love Epping Forest. Thank you for the reminder of Hangmans Hill. I have not been there for a while and find it very fascinating 😊

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  6 лет назад +1

      thanks so much Good Karma - the forest is a magical place and keeps drawing me back

  • @rayfraser1773
    @rayfraser1773 4 года назад +1

    Superb !

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 Год назад +1

    Wow. Interesting.

  • @highoctanecars2149
    @highoctanecars2149 7 лет назад +4

    Always enjoy your films
    Hangmans Hill brings back memories....
    Like yourself always drawn to the lea valley and have been for over 30 years
    Can remember when alot of it was working gravel pits...has changed for the better
    Keep it up John.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Many thanks indeed - it's such a wonderful area, it's got me completely under its spell now. Still a few more areas I haven't seen yet so plenty more exploring to do

  • @CthulhuInc
    @CthulhuInc 2 года назад +2

    just outside of my town, there's a "magnetic" hill which seems to pull cars uphill - but it's an optical illusion - fun to visit, though!

  • @mrlenoir179
    @mrlenoir179 7 лет назад +4

    John, your videos are a joy. I live pretty close by, near the Wanstead Flats and often trek out into Epping Forest and the surrounding areas with a friend...usually with me spouting out interesting trivia that I learnt from one of your videos a few hours prior!
    I always keep my eye out for you and have recommended This Other London to many, many people after borrowing it from Leytonstone Library.
    Keep up the fantastic and inspirational work!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Thanks so much for sharing that Rory - greatly appreciated

  • @Shungabali
    @Shungabali 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting and nicely filmed and edited.👍

  • @Nemie125
    @Nemie125 7 лет назад +3

    I took my daughter to Hangman's Hill - it's very strange to experience the car being pulled "up" the hill. We also had our Labrador with us who was going berserk - she didn't like it at all :)

  • @jde9095
    @jde9095 7 лет назад +2

    I truly love all your walks and narration John. Your videos are inspiring to get out and walk more and make the day an adventure.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад +1

      Fantastic Darrell - adventure is right outside your front door

  • @marcinlor568
    @marcinlor568 3 года назад +1

    You made my day , yet another time .
    Your videos are fantastic and there's so much good vibe projection coming out of them .
    Thanks !

  • @uair01
    @uair01 7 лет назад +1

    Once again a very beautiful video with great views.

  • @davidfarrell7373
    @davidfarrell7373 7 лет назад +2

    Fantastic John. Many thanks.

  • @JagBetty
    @JagBetty 7 лет назад +2

    Excellent view at the end. Great stroll through the forest John, another enjoyable video, thank you. If I drink in the afternoon it's early dark for me.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Thanks Jag - much appreciated. I mean in the winter I suppose I technically drink in the daytime and of course I make an exception in midsummer

  • @MeTheRob
    @MeTheRob 7 лет назад +2

    I want that pie.

  • @lawsonrichards7005
    @lawsonrichards7005 7 лет назад +1

    excellent video. the car on hangman s hill is strange and spooky ' cheers realy enjoyed watching

  • @jacquelinepaddock7535
    @jacquelinepaddock7535 7 лет назад +5

    I noticed recently that you ended up one of your walks at Harlow. The town is celebrating its 70th birthday this year, how about a wander around the semi rural delights of the town or if you are feeling arty there is the art gallery and a sculpture trail. Harlow is a sculpture town. In the past the town has had a bad press (mostly from people who have never been there I suspect!)

    • @jacquelinepaddock7535
      @jacquelinepaddock7535 7 лет назад +3

      PS. There is a very nice towpath walk along the river Stort too.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад +1

      What a great idea Jacqueline, many thanks - it's been on my mind since I went there last summer. I'm thinking of walking the entire Stort from Broxbourne too

  • @X-101
    @X-101 7 лет назад +1

    haha hangman's hill, my dad took us here when I was young and the first time one of my friends was old enough to drive this was the first places we drove too. We also used to goto Copped Hall and go down into the cellars

    • @distanttouch
      @distanttouch 7 лет назад +1

      The last time I went to Copped Hall a few years back it was a boarded up shell of a building. I think there may be a restoration plan for it though.

    • @X-101
      @X-101 7 лет назад

      Yeah they are resorting the place

    • @distanttouch
      @distanttouch 7 лет назад

      I know there was a fire there during the first world war. I think it has been it a fairly derelict state ever since. I may be wrong. You have to walk through Warlies to get there now.

    • @blakeorwell
      @blakeorwell 7 лет назад +1

      Copped Hall was an amazing place when it was in ruins and all over grown . I used to love wandering around the cellars and the grounds surrounding it

  • @paulmorris3613
    @paulmorris3613 7 лет назад +2

    The hunting lodge has a strange history.When Henry 8th's gout got too bad he used to have the deer rounded up into an enclosure by the house, He shot them from a window of the lodge with a cross bow.This it seems was to prove he was still a great hunter in his old age.

  • @johnleach7358
    @johnleach7358 7 лет назад +1

    I love Epping Forest too John. Baldwins Pond is the one in your film.. it's not the lost pond . which is not far from where you were.Been there many times .. I'll show you where it is if you like.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Thanks John - ah I suspected that was the case, but that's the only one on my map. Is it further along the Loughton Brook, I nearly turned back and walked along it like the lady recommended?

    • @spaceshipmark
      @spaceshipmark 7 лет назад +1

      Hi John,
      I'm really enjoying working my way through your films. The Lost Pond is marked on the map as Blackweir Pond. It is not quite on the brook, its actually on top of a hill bordered by Loughton Brook, the Clay Ride and the Green Ride. Apparently there was a WW2 fire watch tree there and, as recently as the 70s and 80s you could climb the metal pegs that had been driven into it.
      We live really close, so if you're ever in the area again I'd be happy to show you. Thanks, Mark

    • @KenMarchantTV
      @KenMarchantTV 7 лет назад

      I remember that tree as a kid growing up in Loughton. My friends and I always imagined climbing to the top and looking out across the whole forest. We never did though as it was much too high for us 9 year olds.

  • @sarahmunro6239
    @sarahmunro6239 7 лет назад +2

    Great video my childish mind though made me laugh about monks fighting over wood :-) x

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Thanks Sarah - yeah, I love the idea of them tusselling in their cassocks with armfulls of wood

  • @kraurosis
    @kraurosis 7 лет назад +1

    Wonderful video, thanks for sharing the walk John. Where are you off to next?

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Many thanks - not sure, so many choices, I need to head South over the river, perhaps follow the Quaggy, but I tend to decide when I leave the house and just go with my mood

  • @rupertferguson9673
    @rupertferguson9673 5 лет назад +2

    Interesting that you should have diverted me here John from today's video about Buckhurst Hill. Given the apparent connection with the Epping Hunt, might not Buckhurst Hill have a link with another Buck, in the form of the huntsman's quarry, as opposed to the beech trees which other writers have association the name? Interestingly enough, there is another Kingstanding, formerly King's Standing, in Birmingham, which lies along the ancient Roman Road known as Icknield Street (not to be confused with the celebrated prehistoric trackway known as the Icknield Way).
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingstanding
    Interestingly enough, this one is associated with King Charles I, who is supposed to have used a Neolithic Bowl Barrow as a vantage point for reviewing troops during the English Civil War.
    historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1016437

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  5 лет назад +1

      great stuff as ever Rupert - what I didn't mention in the video is that the idea of the 'book forest' does work well in the way that Buckhurst Hill is separated from the forest. I even read old reports lamenting the adsorbtion into Epping Forest of Knighton Wood and Lords Bushes, Buckhurst Hill (covered in a previous video) which had historically been separate entities.

  • @hoon2806
    @hoon2806 2 года назад

    Hangmans Hill, good fun but I'm afraid it's an optical illusion as it looks like it's uphill but is of course in fact down as how would a car roll up it- sorry to be a spoilsport, still worth a visit though.

  • @rosswebster7500
    @rosswebster7500 7 лет назад +2

    Great video John, I especially liked the story of the two feuding monasteries. Reminds me of Terry Jones' documentaries. Are there any traces of them left or did they go up in smoke when Henry VIII got rid of monasteries?

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад +1

      Many thanks Ross. Waltham Abbey is still very much there, well the church is and the remain are in the Abbey grounds. Hardly anything left of Stratford but part of the site is a community garden - just uploaded a video showing it

  • @peterbuckley265
    @peterbuckley265 7 лет назад +1

    John, I Thought you would have said 'OH HANG < MAN > IT I DO NOT WANT TO GET LOST IN THE DARK' !!! Peter.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      Ha, if only my brain worked that fast

    • @peterbuckley265
      @peterbuckley265 7 лет назад

      MY BRAIN AND MIND ARE CONTINUALLY ON THE GO, EVEN WHEN SLEEP AND I REMDEMBBER A LOT OF SO MY SPIRITUAL DREAMS FROM THE PRESENT TO THE DISTANT PAST, FAR BETTER THAN MY DAY TIME MORTAL LIFE MEMORIES !!!, PETER N E LONDON.

  • @lemenelli5100
    @lemenelli5100 7 лет назад +2

    Can I ask why is it called QE hunting lodge when it was built for Henry vIII?Btw john your music is lovely.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад +1

      Good question, all I know is that she is strongly associated with it and there's the legend of her riding her horse up the stairs to the top floor

  • @MrCamparisafari
    @MrCamparisafari 7 лет назад +1

    Wtf thats amazing, hangmans hill ? How john how ! What a riddle is it some odd magnetic anomaly ? Ghosts?? Off to look it up now

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 лет назад

      It's great isn't it. I think it's an optical illusion and the is a slight dip on one side of the road that pulls the cars down - I did point this out to the girls in the white mini

    • @MrCamparisafari
      @MrCamparisafari 7 лет назад +1

      Icc i can confirm , yes , googled around theres a funn vid of a guy doing the same with a skateboard and its an opticsl illusion , cool nonetheless and seems its a pretty eerie place , went into a internet worm hole! lol

  • @peterbuckley265
    @peterbuckley265 7 лет назад +1

    OH JOHN WENT TO THE LIPPITS HILL EPPING FOREST EDGE // WITH FEW TREES AND ONLY THE ODD HEDGE /LOVELY VIW/ TO DO THESE INTERESTRING VIDEO WALKS HES GOT LOTS OF SAVVY // AND IS REWARDED WITH THE DISTANT VIEWS INCLUDING THAT OF WALTHM ABBEY // AS IF HE IS JOHN IS SITTIND DOWN RESTING AWHILE UP ON AN OUTER LONDON LEDGE !! // ONE AND A HALF LEGGED PETER N E LONDON .

  • @huh5950
    @huh5950 3 года назад +1

    S to the D to the M and to the N,
    they reacted so I came to check it again
    came from a Sidemen video

  • @fadd6895
    @fadd6895 3 года назад

    No mention why the flags are at half mast ?

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 года назад

      Really? Thought I did at the beginning of the video. Can’t remember now, but if it’s omitted here it’s mentioned in the blog post

    • @hoon2806
      @hoon2806 2 года назад

      He did mention it, a police officer had recently been killed whilst on duty.

  • @gautambharadwaj6619
    @gautambharadwaj6619 3 года назад +3

    Anyone from Sidemen reacts?

  • @bighorse10048
    @bighorse10048 7 лет назад +3

    I think that you put to bed the theory that Essex is flat.

    • @MeTheRob
      @MeTheRob 7 лет назад +1

      Ah, the Essex mountains !

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 4 месяца назад

    Two mentions of Iain Sinclair. Experimental music is much too loud. The experiment failed.

  • @ccjelley2390
    @ccjelley2390 4 года назад

    @7:00 VS army = US army.

  • @jeffreybail353
    @jeffreybail353 2 года назад

    just think you were hung from a tree if you killed an animal in those days, i wonder if it will ever make a comeback

  • @GreyGhost.
    @GreyGhost. 3 года назад

    probably the most credible person i watch on YT ... but the ' hangman's hill' issue just doesn't work for me .. too old, too cynical and the law of physics prevent me from 'believing it'. Great upload though.