Never Buy Chain Lube Again? Comparison Test
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
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Could the answer be so simple? Are we really overcomplicating it? Find out as we slide into the slippery world of motorcycle chain lubes armed with rigorous tests and our typically non-lubricated sense of humour.
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Full disclosure: I used a half-empty bottle of Canadian Tire gear oil because I had one lying around and never expected it to win. *Oops.* If you actually decide to buy some, it behooves us to mention that F9 and RZ also sell gear oil. Link in description. ~RF9
Does it matter what brand you use or are they all the same? And does it have to be 75W90?
@@Danpet1234 Looks like I'm waiting for an oil brand comparison video now.
I would use half-full instead of half-empty. It's almost riding season and haven't we suffered enough this long winter?
Sorry, dude, but I should correct you. Yes, the chain rollers are filled with grease and sealed. The reason we are using oil/grease/what-ever on outside is not corrosion...but keeping the friction temperature low. When the chain is properly lubed, this temperature is low because of the low friction. When the lube is not there, the temperature is getting very high, which causes the rubber to "bake" and the high temperature is making the grease inside to melt and leaks outside. :) once this happens, you saw how rollers starts to block
All the KLR guys will only use Rotella anyway.
I watched a 12min video about chain lube and my bike doesn't have a chain.
Me too...
Touch of Gray guess what? I bet your shaft drive final drive runs gear oil.
My C50 Boulevard did and all my dirt bike chains have run gear oil since day dot.
@@mmazz30 What if his bike runs a belt?
I don't even have a bike yet
Me too!!
After 30 years of biking and reading hundreds, maybe thousands of reviews and debates on chain maintenance, this is the first time I've actually learned something.
Why? Were the reviews written in Swahili?
@@joelonsdale not Swahili no, they were written in the native tongue of paid advertising.
@@yanceyboyz Ah, I see - a very difficult language to learn but so beguiling...
@@joelonsdale Hata ikiwa inaweza kuwa ya kiswahili lakini ni ya kweli, inaweza kutafsiriwa na kuwa muhimu
Me too!
Since the late 70s , for dirt and street bikes. Always used gear oil to lube the chain, wd 40 to clean it and cooking spray on underside of dirt bike fenders to keep the mud clumps from weighting down the fenders. Your video proved what I was taught as a child.
I wonder if a cheap ceramic coating (like Mr. Fix 9H) applied to the underside would also help keep mud down. I've seen plenty of vids that say to use it on snowblower discharge chutes to keep the wet, heavy snow from clogging the outlet.
Wd40 ruins the seals in the rollers. I learnt that the hard way on my vstrom (unless there are different types of chains idk)
@@davidkoppa3047 Wouldn't be for me, I live on a dirt road, even with the chain cover on my bike, I'm sure fine particles would get in and just adhere to it with no problem.
@@cujoedaman I get that but just a simple hose down would wash it off
How do I save this comment
As a teenager I listened to my Grandfather and Dad argue about which was better: Grandpa's Indian or Dad's Harley. They never could agree about anything...except...using heavy gear oil to lube their chains. I've done the same for 40 years.Those old timers knew best. Thanks for this post!
Suck up
Can you tell which one?
@@rutg24it really doesnt matter much just gear oil... ofcourse if you got money buy the best/stickiest/thickest one you can find
Some people saying that they watched the video even though they had no chain in their bikes. Well, i watched for 12 min and I don't even have a bike😂
Hahaha..... I know it.
Love your honesty.....and humour! :)
Me too!
Makes you about s funny as Will Farrell and he's not funny. Stupid
Ha ha ha love it
I stopped mid workout at the gym to watch this, am now too cooled down and will go home. I regret nothing.
I regret nothing
Je ne regret rien, de rien.
You take your phone to the gym!? Blasphemy.
😂
I cool down before I start then I don’t start
I can't believe how well done and interesting this channel is, found it today and rapidly burning through the back catalogue. I don't ride motorcycles but am otherwise really into cars. I can't believe how actually useful this testing is. When a company creates a frankly bad product that gets a reputation for being the best off price or advertising this kind of testing is the only thing that reveals it short of noticing a higher failure rate of parts down the line which is tricky.
Edit: What I'm trying to say is Bel-Ray has the most expensive product and finished behind WD-40 and cooking spray, what the hell!
mba's 'extracting value'
Have you been convinced to buy a bike yet?
@@sooyster4033 No but I've been tempted, I'm from Canada like Ryan but live in Ottawa which is north of Syracuse NY but think weather like the ski slopes in Maine and Vermont which are popular trips here in the winter (not that we don't have a good amount of mountains here). The weather for riding would be like the 3-4 hot summer months and into fall but it's too cold otherwise and quite rainy in the spring. I work as a tradesman and transport all my tools, I couldn't go to work on a bike and also I couldn't do big grocery trips or buy anything big so it wouldn't be good for errands, I live in a Condo so I would need another spot for one though maybe not, I see some people just park them in front of their cars in their spots. Thing is, I'd never use it as transportation so it would entirely a hobby and that's the only appeal but it's way too much investment for a hobby that is dangerous especially while learning, I get that good riders and smart defensive riding goes a long way but you can't control other idiots. I also watch Dan Dan the Fireman on his analysis of close calls and crashes because it really is tempting and the risk is a big turn off. Lastly, I really like wrenching on my car so maybe I could pick up a cheap bike and fix it but I don't think you can find the same kind of savings you can on a project car. Maybe when my life situation changes it might be possible but for now I'm a car driver.
@@sooyster4033 No but I've been tempted, I'm from Canada like Ryan but live in Ottawa which is north of Syracuse NY but think weather like the ski slopes in Maine and Vermont which are popular trips here in the winter (not that we don't have a good amount of mountains here). The weather for riding would be like the 3-4 hot summer months and into fall but it's too cold otherwise and quite rainy in the spring. I work as a tradesman and transport all my tools, I couldn't go to work on a bike and also I couldn't do big grocery trips or buy anything big so it wouldn't be good for errands, I live in a Condo so I would need another spot for one though maybe not, I see some people just park them in front of their cars in their spots. Thing is, I'd never use it as transportation so it would entirely a hobby and that's the only appeal but it's way too much investment for a hobby that is dangerous especially while learning, I get that good riders and smart defensive riding goes a long way but you can't control other idiots. I also watch Dan Dan the Fireman on his analysis of close calls and crashes because it really is tempting and the risk is a big turn off. Lastly, I really like wrenching on my car so maybe I could pick up a cheap bike and fix it but I don't think you can find the same kind of savings you can on a project car. Maybe when my life situation changes it might be possible but for now I'm a car driver.
@@sooyster4033 No but I've been tempted, I'm from Canada like Ryan but live in Ottawa which is north of Syracuse NY but think weather like the ski slopes in Maine and Vermont which are popular trips here in the winter (not that we don't have a good amount of mountains here). The weather for riding would be like the 3-4 hot summer months and into fall but it's too cold otherwise and quite rainy in the spring. I work as a tradesman and transport all my tools, I couldn't go to work on a bike and also I couldn't do big grocery trips or buy anything big so it wouldn't be good for errands, I live in a Condo so I would need another spot for one though maybe not, I see some people just park them in front of their cars in their spots. Thing is, I'd never use it as transportation so it would entirely a hobby and that's the only appeal but it's way too much investment for a hobby that is dangerous especially while learning, I get that good riders and smart defensive riding goes a long way but you can't control other people. I also watch Dan Dan the Fireman on his analysis of close calls and crashes because it really is tempting and the risk is a big turn off. Lastly, I really like wrenching on my car so maybe I could pick up a cheap bike and fix it but I don't think you can find the same kind of savings you can on a project car. Maybe when my life situation changes it might be possible but for now I'm a car driver
Tons of time and work went into this vid... I watched only a few reviews of yours, but your talent and thought place you high on the TT podium of educational and fun videos to watch. Thank you for your effort!
"What are your intentions with my daughter?"
WD-40: "Penetrate then evaporate lololol"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
True, its temporary. Also not water resistant. Ideal for getting something lose or get it going
and hopefully without any residues
WD-40 years old
Janez G Giggity!
F.A.R.T - Fortnine Advanced Research Test; Good one Ryan
Thanks for explaining the obvious joke.
It's good to see good old Top Gear/Grand Tour like humour :D
And i thought i was the only one that got that. 😄
south harmon institute of technology SHIT...
Anal. Another national aeronautics lab.
I use Motul, and mainly for one reason, it's the easiest to apply. I don't have to cover other parts of the bike, it doesn't drip everywhere staining my driveway, and it doesn't fling off creating lovely oil patterns on the underside of my tail. I'm more likely to lube my chain on a regular basis if it is quick and requires no prep or cleanup. The best chain lube is the one you will use.
I used to use LinkLife. It's a hard wax in a tin that you heat up on the stove and leave the chain sat in it for an hour to soak in. What a complete and utter pain in the arse that was. I then discovered a spray lube that flushed all the dirt and old lube off before seeping into the link pins and rollers and setting hard. As you say, the best lube is the one you will use.
If you apply gear lube sparingly with a foam brush, and an hour later wipe off the excess woth a paper towels you eliminate most of the sling.
40 years ago (with my 1981 Honda XL500) I had an epiphany. When riding with friends who would lube their chains just before setting out (and re-lube them while riding), their chains were both more dirty and rusty looking than mine. I had never really thought much about chain lubing, but this observation got me thinking. I always lubed my chain after riding was done, after I had hosed off the bike. It was the last thing I did before putting the bike away. My epiphany was that what lube you put on your chain might not be as important as when you "lube" your chain.
"In which case your chain is about as useless as a ventilated condom"... that shit cracked me up
I had a friend from school that was that same result
Well, I heard about a guy that cut off the point of the condom because "that thing isn't comfortable enough", and the head exposed was nicer during the fun activities...
Literally was reading your comment as he was saying that, hahahhaa
oh my god. 5th time i watched the video and i realized " Fortnine Advanced Research & Testing" or in short... FART. Well played Ryan, well played
Geh DuKuh my 2nd time, this time I need it for my bike , ipone cost me $15 for 500ml
Canyon chasers joke
Judging From The Comments, I Think It's Safe To Say Practically Everyone Likes Ryan's FART. You Made Me Laugh So I Gave You A Thumbs Up . . .
Great video, my father was a good engineer, when I had a chain bike he taught me that WD40 and a small amount of gear oil was sufficient, all my chains were fine after 20+ thousand miles.
how often did you cleaned and lubed your motorcycle chains?
Was your bike a 125 or Hayabusa?
thats what i took from this video as well. clean with wd-40 then apply some gear oil after
Chains stretch and kill sprockets. Don't work hard to use them too long. Measure stretch. Lube with your favorite and go.
@@jwise5204 Chains don't stretch, they wear.
Wow! Hats off to you and your extensive efforts of making such an awesome content. In my 20 yrs of riding I just discovered something I otherwise wouldn't have thanks to you 👏 subbed!
I'm uncomfortable with how good you are at drawing a freehand circle
Nautilus
@@Francois_Dupont Frangipane
matt from the the workshop channel is even better
That's what you got to do in schools that are useful (engineer, architect, anything science or math related). They make you draw hundreds of them, freehand, they do the same with lines
You must be born after 1980.
can you upload more. PLEASE I'M ADDICTED TO THIS CHANNEL
He needs a hot of whatever the King of Random crew is smoking. They are just absurd with how much content they release! lol
We want quality though, so I don't mind the wait.
Each one is like a gift, a little video sent from the gods to bless my phone with its majesty.
Get off his nuts.
We have a support group that can help, we meet at your local Tim's and discuss this addiction that grips us, welcome.
Quality over quantity pal
kos u gey
For 3.5 years, I had to ride my bike back home from my work place almost every weekend (then return to the work place the following Monday morning). The to and fro journey was about 500km ( approx. 300+ miles). I only used gear oil, 140 weighted oil, to lube the chain. Never had to adjust the chain length and the chain and sprocket are still in good condition. My bike is a "small" 175cc and weighs 132kg (290 lbs), I weigh about 75kgs, and I try to maintain speeds of 90-100kmh (55-60+ mph) during the journey. Gear oil for chain lubrication works and it's cheap.
Bruh I used 4t oil
Dude hats off to the topic selected and the detailed analysis , great youtuber who actually makes viewers time usefull, learned a lot ,thanks and keep making this type of videos , there were couple of things that went totally tangent but that increased my curiosity to learn more .
Feeling lucky to live and ride in Canada, where a company like this hires a guy like this to make videos like this. He peels the onion every time, and makes it fascinating... and hilarious.
No in-your-face shilling and shouting. No honey-dipped half truths. Honesty takes top place, and everything else follows from there.
A welcome treat in a wobbly world.
Thanks Ryan (and crew!). Thanks FortNine. Just bought more stuff today.
Happily.
Fortnine is a store?
Grant DuBridge Yup! I order anything motorcycle related almost exclusively through fortnine.ca. It’s essentially a Canadian version of Revzilla.
I love F9! Cheaper than Revzilla (with their damn 30USD flat rate and shipping is fast and easy. Go Canada go!
Ryan can be such the ADD/OCD, "Science Nerd"-type, perfect choice when you want REAL ANSWERS to your questions. He does a wonderful job of being thoroughly complete when it comes to reviewing & testing. . . well. . . anything, really.
Me?
I CLEAN my chain w/WD-40. . . .
Microfiber towel gently WIPES everything down. . .
The ENGINE OIL left after an oil change has been put in a dedicated container. . .
The new oil is drizzled upon the chain as the rear wheel is slowly rotated. . .
I sit there, constantly rotating the rear wheel for 2-3 minutes. . .
Microfiber towel to gently wipe excess oil from chain and. . .
Done.
@@grantdubridge7995 whoa. i thought it was just his channel. wild.
Gosh. I am truly impressed by the effort put into this video.
Wait till you get through the back catalogue of F9 videos. Much effort to enjoy.
I would use Pam over anything else
Stunning until he got to the part about avoiding a life in science. AMAZINGLY detailed comp! The coloring inside the lines was wonderful....
Quantity and quality
@@Sjalala800 Actually it is and it's WAY better than any advertitsing bs.
Bike riding isn't for me, but your channel's amazing camera work, research, knowledge, teaching style and incredible humor made me subscribe. And I'm still learning things that can be applied in other areas of my life! Just wanted to say Thank you! 👍
my brother bike riding can be to you too! even if you can't move your legs, there are still options! but you will be welcome everywhere, always are groups of bikers that can help you! I salute you good sir!!!
Hi Ryan , because of you, i am now using 90w gear oil,chainsaw bar oil and ptfe all in the mix , all applied by hand(fingers) fantastic results over 18 months and very economical , I Thankyou very much , from Australia.
Belt drive riders laughing in the background, quietly though, in hopes our belt doesnt snap on the way home.
You just need to get yourself a replacement belt with a master link...
@@hellishgrin4604 yeah to get under the the back wheel when it snaps
Hahahahaha
You should spray your belt with belt dressing that way it won't squeak
*laughs in shaft drive*
5:25
"Ryanf9 is 27 years old"
"The KLR build took 13 days"
"Our crew is 2 ppl"
FortNine's darkest secrets finally come to light..
You can see the hands pressing down on sprays aren't Ryan's
Thank you!!
I feel like it could also be 29 years old
@@David-Daithi this is actually what I came to the comment section for
I love the way you designed these tests, especially the roller on the scale. That was ingenious.
Hey Ryan, it's worth looking into chainsaw chain oil, it's thick like gear oil and has non fling additives. Can also be sourced anywhere and biodegradable oil is better for the world. Used it for years and never have rusty chains or short chain life.
@@machinesnmetal any particular brand you would recommend? I'd appreciate any info you can share
@@NahumPrz Any brand that a small engine shop or tool rental shop carry will be fine. The centrifugal force of a spinning chainsaw is much higher than a motorcycle, so I can't see even a "winter" rated chainsaw bar oil getting flung off.
@@PaulHeinrichs1 thanks for the tip, I'll look into it. My bike is a modest 150 cc and I try to take good care of it, but don't want to expend tons of money on maintenance
I salute you good sir. Great info.
Been using husqvarna bio oil most of this year, can rlbe really liberal with the application, short ride and wipe excess off.
I actually work at a test facility as a test development engineer. We do tests on everything to certain standards. Thus, something to not overlook here is that Fortnine definitely did thier research and looked into standards. Really well done
agreed. as a material scientist half my job is testing materials and they are doing suprisingly well with their test methods considering they lack expensive scientific equipment. tho i think ryan studied physics or sth like that so he must be on somewhat familiar ground with experiments.
Mo Mentum ...... but. Come on. You know you want to
Smh as an engineer also, im disappointed in you for thinking this was well done and scientific
Honestly even with this video that shows which lubes are the best , I feel like they need further testing. I know that Maxima once fully dried is lightly sticky and makes a gold/brown coating on the chain that protects it mean while oil tends to be slung off at higher rpm and actually attracts all the particles on the road.
@@Technie87 good point and maxima also tells you to apply it to a hot chain not cold which allows it to penetrate and set up. So applications weren't all to manufacturers recommendations but I still enjoyed the vid 👍
Just incase anyone was wondering. The writing in uv says
5:27
RyanF9 is * years old
5:28
The KLR build took 13 days
5:31
Our crew is 2 ppl
That number looks like 27 to me
@@biocta more likely 37. Looks more like that to me, and I know he is older than he looks
@@Rebster lol he is absolutely not 37
@@Rebster Ryan is somewhere vaguely 30 since he had a valedictorian speech in 2010 here ruclips.net/video/RO6fff42w9k/видео.html
So how old is he
Love the ending! Also, well done for the great production quality & brilliant script! Top stuff as always!
I don’t own a bike or even a car but all of these videos are so well done and the host is so good at explaining stuff like chain lube. This is my new favorite channel
That looked like a lot of work, thank you for going through the meticulous process for our knowledge.
Wow the amount of efforts you guys put it in each of your videos is really awesome to see
It's truly amazing the amount of detail and information you put in those videos
See my bike constantly leaks oil, so I never have to lube my chain 😂
Zack Taff Harley?
@@sharryglobetrotter5623 Honda actually
@@zack7247 what Honda?
@@beee3339 is was a 99 shadow 600
@@zack7247 uh oh i gotta 98 750 shadow
This video is the opposite of Clickbait. I have literally stopped buying chain lube ever since watching it. Thank you FortNine!!!
I stopped needing to buy chain lube so often after buying MZs with full chain enclosure. I had a moto Morini 500 once. The chain stretched like knicker elastic and threw the lubricant everywhere.
Depends on where you live, you may be able to do that. As he stated, lubrication is mainly for rust prevention. We live in the tropics with an annual average rainfall of over 3metres and on the coastline, our chains get rust spots within weeks if we neglect to maintain them.
@@SerenityChaos1975 Is that really what he's saying? That you don't need chain oil? I live in Vegas btw...
@@thebatman4343 o rings hold the grease inside the links.......no matter what you put on top of it.
Salute. You're putting exceptionally great efforts for every automotive enthusiast in all of your videos.
Even on Chain Lube? Good Job, as always! I see the comment regularly that this is the best Motorcycle related content on YT but after nearly exhausting your library I am convinced you have the best "Do-It-Yourself" content on the Inter-Web! I watch everything from Auto-Centric to Xylophone Repair and Race/All Terrain/Off Road/4X4 to DIY of every topic and I do not see the consistent high quality and creative thoughtfulness of F9. Nobody, Nowhere, Knowhow. I will shut up now and start at the top. Thanks for the great Videos and for sharing your talents.
"The life of O-ring chain is usually determined by the durability of the O-ring. To improve the durability, there should be an oil film on the O-ring at all times. Even though it is a sealed chain, lubrication is required to extend the working life of the O-ring."
So, Armor All?
@@avisantube no, the video says gear oil!
Thanks ... I'll go back to lubing again.
I thought ryain said oil was useless.
@@DanielMores This entire video is about the best chain lube and it was created by Ryan. Where did he say oil was useless (presume you mean on o-ring chains)?
Daniel Mores - Think he was trolling the myth that chains don't need lube. Silicone chain lube is another option that's clean effective and inexpensive.
i watched a 12 minute video about bike chain lube and I dont even have a bike.
this guy is such a salesman I feel robbed everytime I click on ur videos.
you searched for "lube " didn't you ? lol
You basically re-wrote Touch Of Grays comment, not a very socially creative person, are you?
@@FarmerFpv so what ..he don't own patent on comments ..and you no different just another RUclips troll looking for inconsistencies just so can post a smart arse comment to make yourself look good
Why would watch it? Thats stupid as fuck
I just love the pure entertainment, somehow I always learn a pile of new things....
Even WITH the "Full Disclosure" Comment: Great Job! I see the comment regularly that this is the best Motorcycle related content on YT but after nearly exhausting your library I am convinced you have the best "Do-It-Yourself" content on the Inter-Web! I watch everything from Auto-Centric to Xylophone Repair and Race/All Terrain/Off Road/4X4 to DIY of every topic and I do not see the consistent high quality and creative thoughtfulness of F9. Nobody, Nowhere, Knowhow. I will shut up now and start at the top. Thanks for the great Videos and for sharing your talents.
Came here because of a random comment in a video about chain adjustments. Glad I did, you are awesome.
Thank you for another informative video! 40+ years on motorcycles and this channel makes me learn new things every time.
“A Green Peace wet night mare”🤣😂 so colorful and poetic Ryan! That’s why I’m here!
One of the best videomakers out there. No matter the subject. Period. It's just entertaining, informative and the voice is spot on. Fantastic work.
Been using Motul C5 paste for a while now. Really happy with the ease of use and a small tube instead of spray can that is bigger and makes more mess!
It doest last long compared with muc off, i tried them all...
The rolling resistance test on the scale was absolutely brilliant. Also loved the graphs at the end. Awesome and helpful content!
My brother found your videos while doing dual sport research. I have to say you are not only very very entertaining but also filled with actual true tests and results !! This chain lube comparison is a great example !! Love the sense of humor too !!! Keep up the great work !! Bob from New Hampshire - currently hiding in Colorado.
99.9% of people don't know how to lube a chain.
You don't spray it on the chain, you drizzle it on the chain.
That's what the tube is for.
You put a piece of cardboard behind the chain so it doesn't spray on the wheel or brake.
When you're done you take a rag and wipe off the excess.
That's why I use Dumonde Tech.
Squeeze the bottle and let it get to the o-rings.
The only pressure comes from your squeezing.
Don't squeeze it with your gorilla arm strength and you'll be ok.
Rust prevention and keeping the o-rings lubed up is what you're trying to do.
Great video as always.
Congrats, FortNine.
For your time to do all these tests time and to share it.
I just bought my first motorcycle and guess.. what????, it's got a chain.
Comes really handy for me, cose I know how to not waste my money in so call chain lubs.
You explain it really well for a lot of people and me.
As we said, here in Australia...
Thanks mate. 👍.
Just watched the same video a year later, been using gear oil on both my bikes ever since, saved me money and time, by not having to replace my chain and by not having to buy expensive chain lubes. 👍🏼 always enjoys F9 info and reviews. Best ones out there. Keep up the good work.
im in the netherlands right now and i swear
nothing around here is higher
than your production quality
Low countries
As always, thanks for the informative, amusing, real, and USEFUL content!
Always nice to come back to this video after a couple years. Over the years I have come to like using kerosene or motul chain clean to clean the chain and using gear oil or motul chain paste to lube the chain. They work as perfect as any perfectionist could ask. The motul chain paste might take some time to get onto the chain but thats just more time I spend enjoying time alone. It has lasted me over 1k miles no problem through rain as well.
Impressive presentation and elegant analysis. Thank you for doing that exhaustive comprehensive and tedious work that I couldn't do even if I had the time and patience.
Maxima chain wax doesn’t fling and stuff doesn’t stick to it on my bike because I let it dry first. You need to let that stuff dry thoroughly before you test it.
Yes indeed I use maxima too and just let the bike sit for 20 or 30 min after I apply I and I have never had any problem with things sticking or any fling off
The same for the gearoil... if it flings you have put too much on the chain... gearoil wins...
Drive by Wire Yeah and I also don’t put on so thick and wipe off excess while applying it ad well. It’s just common sense if you don’t want it to fling. I don’t even run a chain guard on my bike and no flinging lube on my pants or boots or fender. 👍
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Posted in another comment thread: "We took the most stringent directions in the group and applied it to all of them. E.g. if one chain requires 15 minutes, they all got 15 minutes, etc. ~RF9"
Truly excellent investigation.
I have used 3 in 1 Professional with PTFE to good effect too.
It combines the penetration of WD40, and the ability to get under rust, with the staying power of PTFE as a lubricant in the hard to reach places. It's not so sticky as to attract grit, and it's multiple uses make it a practical di-it-all spray to carry in your tool kit, having not only lubricant properties, but water displacement, disassembly assistance, thread lube, and the solvent makes a decent degreaser. And it's O ring friendly.
You really went to town on this test, and it's appreciated mate.
I've discovered regular, monograde, SAE 140 oil works pretty well for my chain. It flows like honey (haha) but it toesn't spill all over my wheel and actually lasts some water. I'm still trying it but it works fine so far.
Video quality is astounding! You really dig in on the subject and you are methodical. Great stuff! :)
Your production quality is always so high
Talking Toaster that’s because he has a full production team behind him
@@zipper978 his crew is 2 people, did you not read the stuff in uv?
As a rider contemplating chain replacement and thus lubrication, this was eye opening. Now I have to rethink my whole approach in life, lol
What I had learned over my early years of riding before the fancy o-ring chains that you had more than one chain and the one you were not using was left soaking in 40-weight motor oil.
And that was fine before riveted master links appeared. Now it is not so easy to take a chain off to lube, is it?
Been watching game of thrones again and can't get over the fact that Joffrey has a motorcycle channel 😂
My Thoughts exactly
What's a game of thrones?
@@davidb7358 its a tv series
@@davidb7358 it's where u take shits in turns like musical chairs
@@davidb7358 incest anime for normal people
Ventilated condom... hmm.. thank you for the business idea, buddy!
Maybe Goretex?
Opposite of management speak "condom on the prick of progress" as we used to call my old boss! On a serious note, I found this video interesting and worthwhile. Many thanks!
Speed holes! Speed of fertilization that is.
You would have to make the vents smaller than human sperm...
Like tits on a bull!
Rust and grit isn’t much of an issue in my riding environment. Friction and cleanliness are important to me though so it’s Muc-off for the win. Thanks for the test video.
Thanks, your vids are so well produced, witty, interesting and informative. I've been using chainsaw chain oil for a few years now. It's designed to be sticky so it doesn't fling off easily. This stickiness has a downside in that it holds dust and dirt so, periodically, I clean the chain with petrol before re-applying.
loved this video. Very meticulous and scientific approach.
Just want to add my 2 cents about Chain Wax (Maxima) While it landed at 5th place, I believe that it partly because it takes some time to dry. like 30 mins or more. Once dry it is barely tacky to the touch. I think if it had been given more dry time it would have scored much higher in Splatter, and probably Grit as well. Which likely could have made it come in at least 2nd place due to it's great scores in Rust and Roller.
I typically clean and lube my chain after washing my bike and then put it away. so it always gets hours to dry.
I thought the same thing.
Yeh i agree. They didn't let Maxima dry properly. Its a wax :D not sure how they could fling so much. "Bennets bike" did massive test and Maxima got over all best result of 55 diffrent chain lubes.
Proper application is to be put on a hot chain too.
But, it's not really relevant because in use, when the chain heats up the "wax" kinda liquifies and gets stickier than a teenagers skin mag.
Chain wax is the worst ! Have you tried to get it off any part of your motorcycle but the chain ??? You will need a chisel, degreaser, tooth brush, flat screw driver, heat gun, turps, water blaster, rags, WD40, CRC, brake clean, IPA and then sandpaper and repaint all the parts affected !!! It's crap !
@@waynepantry7023 Wouldnt that mean that if you just got it on the chain it’d be the best?
I was sent here from Yammie Noob's channel. This man really is the hardest working man in motorcycling.
Papa Yam knows best
Always put gear oil on my chains since I always thought if it’s designed for high pressure lubrication then it must be good for a chain. Always had people tell me it would pick up too much grit but that’s when I’d clean my chain if it got real dirty. Thanks for this video. Makes me feel like I’ve been making somewhat the right choice.
Very impressive and hard work to detail with test. Found your channel looking at folding portable scooters.
Great job on your test, it was much more scientific and thorough than what I expected. Your test results match my decades of field testing. The best way to keep that gear oil on your chain you ask, a Scottoiler!
well done. i've never seen your channel before, this popped up on my home page, and you did a great job showing the differences. i'm now a new subscriber. thank you!
Buying ipone and some gear oil now! Thanks YOU! for all the testing you did to make this video i know how much work goes into one of these videos!
You have some of THE most entertaining vids on the tube. I have watched your Harley Davidson "Old Broken" vid 100X now. Fabulous. One thing that is almost never mentioned in chain lube comparisons is the difficulty of cleaning this shit off dirty chains, rear wheels, underside components...once you decide to clean the bike and re-lube the chain. I'm 69 and have been riding and lubing chains for 60 years now. The easiest to clean with some simple degreaser or dedicated bike cleaner? Gear Lube. Every single time.
This is seriously one of the most informative videos I've ever seen on RUclips.
This is sheer genius! Thanks for making such a brilliant effort. Having just bought my first chain-drive bike in over thirty years, I need to know this stuff!
Every day is a school day and I thank you for this, learnt a lot and just goes to show, you don't always get a great product after spending lots of money
Idk why but this guy's personality and knowledge is just soothing sarcastic excellence. Subscribed.
I appreciate the time and effort you and the boys at F.A.R.T. put into this. Well done.
I have been using old engine oil since 1980 when the Royal Navy spent a fortune researching the best method of lubricating helicopter chains and decided on using a heavy gear oil in a total loss fashion. Great test F9
Interesting, but how does that compare with the excess carbon build up and other loose metals/ abrasive components? In addition, how often do you have to redo the application because of the thiner viscosity?
Very interesting to watch. Although I wonder afterwards why I watched in the first place, because of the two motorcycles I own, one is equipped with a driveshaft (Honda Flat Six) and the other is belt-drive (Harley Electra Glide). But still, interesting . I'm glad I do not have to bother with chaindrive anymore. When I had a chain bike, I had it equipped with a Scottoiler-system, which worked great. It applied a thin film of sticky oil all over the chain, while riding. It was adjustable, according to the wheatherconditions; less drops in dry conditions, more drops in wet weather.
Late to the party, but kudos on the excellent research! Since the grit and roller tests are the most important to me for my dirt bike, it looks like I'll be using cooking spray from now on lol! Thanks Ryan!
"Ventilated condom" baahahaha! That was funnier than it should be to me
Funny how youtubers ask you to like subscribe and “ring the bell” for pointless content. I was thinking about buying some expensive chain lube and cleaner tomorrow , lets call it a $40 affair. Thanks to Ryan I realized I have all I need to give my chain the best clean and lube treatment possible.... that my friends is how you earn your notifications to be turned ON in my phone.
This is very informative. One factor not taken into consideration, is that some substances decompose the o-rings faster. I believe theres a youtube vid about that too somewhere
I can remember back in the 70s we wold take the chain off , then wash it in paraffin and dry it off , then we got this round tin like candle wax the same size as a quality street sweet tin , then we took the lid off it and started to heat it up till it all melted like a candle, then we rolled up the chain and lowered it in the tin , then turn the heat off it and once it had cooled down enough, we wold take it out and let the cases drip back into the tin job done , but it was very risky in them days as you could have easily started a fire , I started riding again after a 19 year brake , I have been riding shaft driven Yamaha viragos, but just got a Honda rebel 500 so I have got to find out the method of cleaning and lubricating again.
Good video and well thought out. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I've been using heavy oil for years. Gob it on, and then wipe it off. Still makes a freaking mess though.
Most chain drives I see in my work are neglected and rarely oiled. I'm brand and type agnostic. I recommend that a chain gets lubed regularly with anything rather than never at all. 😁
Excellent Video as usual. I changed to Maxima chain was as it has proven to really protect against the elements BUT if I had an offroad bike then probably use good ole gear oil. I clean using kerosene(NOT white fuel) in a spray bottle. Yeah, it stinks but works SO well.
Brilliant, courageous and funny testing ! Thank you a lot for the quality content you offer ! Long life to our chains and gear oil ! V
Very, very interesting. I enjoy your sense of humor and appreciate the time that you took to do this research.
Wow, I've never expected this to be so quality and very informative. Thank you for your efforts and keep it going! :) Subscribed!
The best way to determine which lube is best is to apply them to chains and then run each for 10,000 miles or so in the same conditions on the same type bikes and see which ones have the best result. I saw another comment on another chanel that said a guy used only WD-40 and his chain lasted 38,000 miles because it didn't pick up grit like the others. A practical, real life test is the best test.
I'm a big fan of wd40
wd 40 is not a lubricant but a water displacer
I do love this channel, and this was a great video. I hope someone does the same exhaustive testing in an entertaining video for Bicycle chain lubes at some point.
Thank goodness, my bike was standing on some jacks with a squeaky clean chain for a month now.
Stefan Majonez
Same here!! Lol
Fascinating results. One of your best videos yet, thanks for posting!
I can see why you have 1.5mil subscribers. Information, entertaining and jeezus you must put a 💩 load of time into making all this content. Quite admirable!
Wow!!! 5 star entertainment with 5 star practical technical information. Luv your work!