Stitching Pony - not a tool I was even contemplating yet. Thank you for vid so that I can decide what I may need later or if ever. I have a bunch of questions for you but since I have to pick one - My Question is: What is the one tool that you shouldn't skimp on and should get the best that you can afford. Reading some of the already asked questions, I look forward to your answer no matter the contest outcome.
@crz4rg252 Thank you for your kind words. If it came to one item I wouldn't skimp on ... I really can't answer that yet. I skimp almost everywhere because Im cheap. I am considering buying a real nice set of pricing irons because I really don't like the results of any of the inexpensive ones Ive tried. And I don't want to waste any more money on a creaky pricking iron until I try one of the good ones. I know this isn't a direct answer, but I hope this helps. Subscribe and stay tuned, because hopefully I find that nice pricking iron I've been seeking.
Hey, GZ on winning the contest! From my limited experience, the tools that really made a difference for me were the ruler, scalpel and mallet. If one of these betrays you, it hurts. I've been using cheap chisels, they make clean enough holes for me. Skiving knives are way too expensive, and on top of that they require much skill to use, I just got a cheap French skiver for rare occasions. However, the most important thing that must not fail you at any cost is the hardware and threads: don't save on those, especially if you work with good leathers.
OLD Leather Smith here, I have been doing leather 4 over 40 years I didn't have all the fancy ones just one long board 2 hold it steady with a Wing nut 2 fasten the clamps together. There was and still is a stitching horse clamps tight by using your feet a lot more expensive but that I am a tall man I had 2 make major adjustments. Sorry 4 so loooong. GOD'S BLESSINGS ✝️⚾🙃
Question: What made you decide to bring humor into your demonstrations? This is what I believe really makes it worth the time to watch your videos. Not only are you creative, and have knowledge about the craft, It's your humor that make you lovable, watchable, and entertaining all at the same time while gaining knowledge about the leather craft business. Thanks
@james.l.harvey8116 Thank you so much for all the complements. My first few videos I tried to be serious because I didn't want to screw up. It was fun making them, but I didn't enjoy myself as much because I wanted people to take me seriously and not as some goofball. One day I decided to me my normal self while filming, I'm someone who likes enjoy life and have fun. I'm hoping that is how my videos come across now. Again, thank you for the complement.
@@mattv.7402 Its good to hear a viewer say this. I hear so much stuff in my comments about how the basic tools I use are garbage and I they advise people to only get the best. I guess I need to go back to my story about the people in 3rd world countries who are master craftsman way beyond whatever most people can do, and they have the most basic of tools. Thanks for reining me in from the madness. Lol
Everyone has to find what works for them. At its core, a stitching pony is just a third hand. There's third hand tools in other activities I'm into, for example a third hand tool that allows you to properly adjust cantilever brakes on bicycles. Sounds simple, but they really do make it much faster and easier. My suggestion is to make a pony out of scrap and then use it for awhile and decide what you like or don't like about it. Make modifications and try it some more. When you dial it in and think it is close to perfect (for you!), then maybe make one with better woods and do a nice finishing job on it. My first pony was copied off of one I saw on RUclips and it cost me about $2.75, which was for the hardware to clamp it tight. The boards I already had as scrap and there's not enough fasteners to even matter. I still use it. The main modification is I took off the bolt and know and I now use a plastic C-clamp to hold it closed. Works a dream, tightens and loosens in half a second, and once you practice using it, it never gets in the way of the thread. The other thing you might consider is if you are doing a lot of belts, there are better ways to achieve that "third hand" effect. With a pony, you can manage, but you will have to keep moving the belt. There's a long clamp you can make (search for it) which is probably half the length of the belt. Helps to keep it straight for burnishing also, when you perform that step. Just some thoughts. Again, everyone has to find what works for them. Some prefer the European clam, which is similar but oh so different. Isn't it great to have options?
I was looking to make one, on a lark I thought what a DIY u-tube video would offer me... And the first video I saw was yours... Bingo you are right... Time & money well saved. I'll take your advice; I think I like the bench clamp down version. Too bad I missed the deadline though.
@majorrogerragland48 Thank you for sharing. I have to agree, most often i would rather spend my time doing other things. I do plan on making some wood working tools in the future, but the plans will be coming from a book I read. It's more for the challenge than anything else.
On the 4th design, I think the 17", that is used while sitting in a chair. Makes clamping your work easier. The cross board on the bottom goes under your knees and the angle adjustment is to move it away from your body. Nice video!
I'd made a 'protoype' pony out of scrap bits and pieces just to try out if a pony would make leather sewing easier. For me it didn't but what did make a huge difference was the pricking chisels I used. I had been using some Amazon grade chisels and was very disappointed in them. In frustration I took a punch, from the set of punches on my bench, and ground it down with my Dremel. With a bit o' beeswax my new leather chisel was punching holes like they were going out of style. It would be interesting to get your view on the different pricking chisels available. Have you ever dyed veg tan black and then had a kind of white haze appear on the leather surface?
@JointerMark First of all, I would love to find out more about how you ground down these chisels. Please contact me on social media @bigstacksshop if you have any pictures. As for your question. I do not recall ever dying leather black and getting any white haze that I noticed.
I've been doing leatherwork for 40 years, and that stitching pony is useless, the locking mechanism wears out very quickly, I wound up putting a 1/4" bolt with a hole through knob. I will be making a new stitching pony this weeked.
Yea, like I said that mechanism stops working pretty quick. Hard to stitch a holster when the damn thing won't hold pressure, LOL. Great videos by the way.@@bigstacksshop
Hey Big Stacks, Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just getting into leather work and didn't even know what a stitching pony was. Prayers Flying from Michigan
i bought one with a table clamp attached to it for $36. absolutely worth the extra cost. i clamp the pony to my desk and watch YT while i stitch. i can rotate the pony anyway i need. the plank bases were too cumbersome and required extra tools to secure it. is there any way for viewers to share pictures of projects with you? my first project is turning out pretty good. probably surprisingly good for others. im almost done with it just need one more weekend im not busy.
@darkshadowsx5949 I really think that's a great option! Thank you for asking, you can share any of your projects on social media and tag me with "@bigstacksshop". I'll be able to see anything with my name tagged in it, which I search every once in a while.
6:58 On number four, if you file the plastic into a wedge on one side, adjust it to where it needs to be and knock it into the groove to secure it, then wouldn't you have one handed operation after that? Plus you could mark you most used heights for saving time.
When I saw a stitching pony for the first time, I immediately wondered how the hell is this supposed to hold my project in place, looked too wonky. So, I learned to do without. For larger projects such as bags, I attached a long strap of leather on the ceiling above my workbench, and I clamp to it whatever I want kept out of my way.
Clearly I missed the giveaway haha. I still have a question. While using leather dye (water based etc.), how can you go about giving the coloration depth? I tried using dragon scale stamps and then dying it green. The stamping job was okay for a beginner (I was happy with it), but the dye job just didn't seem to have a depth to it that gave the impression of lifted scales. I guess a better question would be; is there a way to lighten or darken a dye job on leather that won't destroy stamping, or other tooling work?
@azurearcade342 some people suggest dying before stamping, but the dye usually doesn't sink deep enough into the leather to come out nice. I would do exactly what you have done, try using 2 or 3 coats of dye for a rich color, just before sure to wipe off before it sets in. If you are looking to make your tooling really pop, apply some antiquing gel after dying the leather. Also, don't forget to use a top cost like resolene or tan cote to protect your dye and antiquing from wear.
My question is do you prefer to stand or sit while stitching? If you sit, describe the type of chair you sit in and why that particular chair? Thanks 😉 I guess this is a multi level question but I am curious as to your answer as a fellow crafter 😊
@johnlageau2414 I would say leather that is too thin and floppy. Goat skin would be a perfect example of this. It's something you might find in soft gloves.
HAVING USED A Stitching PONY for about 70 + years number three is best. Al Stolman gave plans for building a stitching pony that used a chair. The reason the longer base on the one you chose isl so you can sit on it on a chair to stabaliize it.
@lswen7737 I sincerely appreciate your feedback. While it is a nice feeling to have my choice validated, I feel it's more important my viewers are able to get the most accurate information. Feel free to come in anytime, even if I'm wrong.
Hi. Thanks for your videos. I'm new to leathercraft and am working on one of my first projects. I'm making a wet molded phone holster. I wanted to incorporate a layer of emf shielding on the side of my body with carrying my phone so I doubled up 4 to 5 oz pieces with foil layers between them for the back panel. But I also have the wet molded front to attach too. My question is, how many layers can you punch nicely at a time for stitching. Thank you.
@codybaker1645 That will mostly depend on the depth of your stitching chisels or punches. Look at how deep your punches go before you get too far along with your project.
Ya, I'm one to buy what has been made aswell. It saves on the aggravation side. I bought my pony at HOBBY LOBBY just before Christmas . It was half off, you can't beat that with a stick. My question, who makes and where can I purchase the best stitching Needels? My birthday is May 22ed.
@mixhaelfawver3436 Im not sure what the best needles are, I just use craft store needles designed for leather. If I are to buy the best of some leather craft tool, I'd probably pass on the best needles and spring for the best pricking irons or knife. I feel you would get more quality difference here. That being said, I'm a cheapo so I'm not sure I would even buy those.
@skullvalleyleatherworks Thank you so very much for the kind words. If you are taking about edge bevelers, I have to think a #2 is my favorite and most versatile.
I've already spent over 20 hours designing this thing in my head. Now I'm just going to wait for your giveaway :) Have you got any tips for skiving? I get too high on one side, then take too much off that, until eventually, I chop of the whole bit!
@tom2move I used to be the worst at skiving leather. Then I watched some youtube video where the idea is to draw your skiver at an angle instead of straight down. No lie, this process works great!
Get the blade sharper than any other blade you own, and do it flat on a hard surface like granite if you have it. Make sure your skiver can be used with the blade nearly flat in the cutting surface. Too steep an angle and you’ll dig too deep. If your using the typical starter Chinese made skiver, sand a big flat spot on the round handle to get the blade angle lower. It’ll keep it from rolling off your bench too. I actually modified the Chinese one I started with by cutting the blade at an angle so instead of being straight at the end, the profile was angled from the right corner back to about an inch and a half or so closer to the handle. That way the new cutting edge I ground in is angled and it makes it easier to feather out a cut with it angled . I generally set the leather up pretty good then just cut a little at a time and let the knife glide on a diagonal. Keep it sharp. Which is hard on those Chinese knives because the steel is junk. If you dont want to angle the blade like I did I would recommend rounding the corners off a little at least. Just don’t go too far and don’t get the metal too hot. You’ll ruin what little heat trea5 there is on the edge
Thanks for the infos! Can we use a vice by adding wood on each side instead of a stitching Pony ? It is the first time I see a stitching pony and it will be the first time I will sew by hand a bag. Thanks for your comments.
@lucie4687 You can try doing this, just be careful. The big benefit I can see of using the stitching pony over a vice is the ability of the stitching pony to put pressure just below the steam and keep the rest of the work unclamped. If you csn find a way to accomplish this with the vice, I say give it a try.
Great review! I think that number 3 is my favorite as well, very good construction. My question: Whats the best leathercrafting tip you have heard in your years of experience? Wonderful video!👍👌
@jartyparty Thank you so much for the kind words. I consider myself as an intermediate leathercrafter who is also content creator. I don't have 20 years of practice in leather working or anything close. But I do feel taking one technique at a time and having purpose to make small improvements with each project should be your goal. If there is one technique I would point to, it's keeping that knife perpendicular while you are cutting.
Is the stitch produced from a Speedy Stitcher as good as a hand stitch? I am an amateur knife maker and I hand sew a sheath for each knife. When I started out I picked up a "Speedy Stitcher." I makes a weird stitch that if not pulled correctly looks awful, luckily with the welt and the other two layers there is plenty of room to hide the stitch. Also, thank you for explaining what to look for in a stitching pony, I think I will have to look into investing in one to make life easier.
@Oregonbladez I got a speedy stitcher off another leather worker a year or so ago, but I have yet to use it. I've only hand stitched so I'm afraid I can't answer your question. Is it like a sewing machine, where you go around a single thread on the back side? I appreciate the kind words about my video.
@@bigstacksshop it sounds like you may have to do a video to try out the speed stitcher and then compare the two stitches? Might be entertaining/informative.
I am very new at leatherwork and was considering investing in a stitching pony. This was great information! The questions are: can a stitching pony be made by buying the components and making one yourself cheaper? Also I would like to see a video comparing hand stitching versus using a sewing machine for leather to understand to pros and cons of investing in a machine. What do customers prefer?
@heraldinestone2186 Thank you very much for your question. You might save a few bucks making one yourself, but with this stitching point under $30 I feel the saving of money is not worth the savings of time. If you practice and get good at saddle stitching, your products will be of much better quality than seeing with a machine. This is because if the threads get damaged, they are less likely to unravel.
new to the craft and have enjoyed the review videos on items I will need eventually if I continue. Have you done any reviews of leather. what leather is better for for certain items and what you can buy online versus what is at some of the craft and big box stores. I have seen leather as high as several hundred of dollars for just a couple of square feet and as cheap as 60 for half a cow. Thank you for any help!!
@toysanford2402 Thank you so much for your question. I would suggest starting with less expensive leather and then trying better leather as your skills improve. You are going to mess up, that's just part of the learning process. As you get better, level up to nicer leather. More important than the quality of the leather, learn early on to choose the right leather thickness appropriate for the project you want to build. This will decrease the amount of headaches and frustration you will end up having while starting out.
great reviews, I built my own a while back for stitching knife sheaths. I am a blacksmith first and leather working became something I have learned to really enjoy doing. Do you thin that last one would have been better if you only had one knob? I have many times wished I could move my lock knob up a bit for a stronger hold. I didn't like the double knob setup on that one but if it had a captured sliding nut on one side and the knob on the other for one handed use. Just a thought, great video, thanks!
@nightphall6810 Is very possible. I did like the idea I could adjust the holding power because the knob was movable. But then there is still the matter of the toggle clamp being easier to use with one hand. I do wish #3 had the wider jaws that were on #4, though.
Thanks, Being a woodworker first, leather hobbits second. I built my own. Custom Designed for me and my work area. Question: What one size edge beveler do you suggest?
@062809 Thank you for your input on the stitching pony. There really is no right answer, it is a personal preference. As for the beveler, #2 is a great size for general purpose , and probably should be the first one someone buys. A #3 is a great second beveler because it's great for thicker leather, like belts and such.
I like the second one and own one, but I learned how to stitch leather without any pony and I like that better. It is really easy and fast once you get the technique down. I learned from Corter Leather.
Great video, me it took 30 sec to make mine, wooden bed slat cut in galf that was lying around, glues some leather at the end, trimmed, rapped some para cord around jobs a good'ern! I probley spent more time contemplating how somone can charge 300 for pony haha! Thanks again!
@Inspiraljez Sounds good. I wanted my point to not a bit more polished, but for many people there is not what they are looking for. I've never examined a $300 pony before, but for such a price it should be able to do your taxes as well.
I'm sure it has been given away by now, but I still have a question about it if thats ok - are you planning on putting leather on the one you liked the most to help protect the items you are stitching, or do you not think that is needed? I'm just getting into leather working.
@jamesmacleod8388 Thank you for asking. I am planning on putting some leather on it to protect my work. Right now I've slowed down a bit making videos to build a great storage solution for my shop. Hopefully I'll be able to post a video about that soon.
@scottmcintosh2988 These can definitely hold your work, I would just be careful about tightening down too hard because they are thicker and can compress the leather and sacrifice the look of your finished product. This is why I really wanted to get a stitching pony, the area you clamp is much thinner.
I have the fourth one because of the height. I like the tilt feature. The knobs for me are a none issue. I can see where the one handed clamp would be nice.
@@krahnjp I'm sure I could tighten #4 down harder, but the goal isn't to have it super tight, you just want to be able to hold your workpiece in place while stitching and not mar your leather. You can tighten #4 just enough, I just found the whole process a lot more cumbersome using the knobs.
@mcooper547713 I suggest people start with a many tools as they already have at home, like a utility knife and some type of non-marring hammer. Then get a cutting mat and a set of Owden punches from Amazon. Check my channel videos for basic leather working projects you can make with these.
Great comparison of all four ponies. I like #3 myself. I have a question: I recently was gifted a box of leather sides, that apparently had been stored for quite some time. The leather is not supple at all! Is there a way to "re-hydrate" this leather?? There are 4 sides in the box...a lot of leather to just discard! Thanks for the informative videos!
@fyfedrum Thank you very much, I was very fond of #3 as well. As for the leather, I would condition it with neatsfoot oil or some other type of leather conditioner. Even if it's creased or shows signs of wear, it would look great with the appropriate project.
Thanks for the videos. My question is for those interested in beginning this hobby, are there reasons one might not want to get started in leather working?
@r0b0tcat Thank you so much. There are so many reasons to start leather crafting. It is such a fun hobby, you don't need a dedicated space, and the entry cost is one of the lowest ... you can get a basic set of tools for under $50. The only reason I think someone might not want to get into leather craft is if they are vegan and would have issues working with animal hides. I appreciate you asking.
You don't have to be a big time small town Sherriff like Andy Griffith to pick my comment for the giveaway, but what would you suggest for the best adhesives to use when gluing leather or combining leather work with other materials like cloth?
@samuelgolden4648 I like your style there, my friend. For leather on leather I like contact cement. Depending on your other materials you could hit beast mode with E6000.
@PenguinGentleman Thank you so much for asking! I want to make a tooled motorcycle seat, but never find the available time for such an intense project. Videos take a long time to make, perhaps one day. I also need to level up my hand tooling skills with more practice first. I'm not even sure I'm at a place where I can teach others this process yet.
Thanks for the review. One thing you didn't address that I am interested in is the height difference. Was the shorter more compact unit better or worse height wise? I know sometimes a little bit of height difference can cause you to stoop ever so slightly and hurt your back, but a little too tall and it causes arm and shoulder pain from having to elevate them. What would be the ultimate height in your opinion?
You make some very excellent points. I wouldn't what is ideal because I don't have enough hours on either one. Maybe I'll try #3 and #4 and see how it affects my old body.
I love your channel over any other leather worker i’ve come across here on youtube but for my question, How do you mold leather? Its something i’ve wanted to get into
@pebbleandleo2709 thank you so very much. When molding leather, you soak it around the object you want to form it around, clamp it, and let it dry. Then you glue, cut, and stitch after it's dry.
@TomCross945 Belts and keychains were the most popular. Keep in mind you have to be able to make them efficiently so you don't drown in your labor costs. Practice will help you become more efficient, and if they look good you can sell your practice pieces.
I greatly enjoy your videos , very informative and straight forward. My question: Is there a leather working project that you would love to do but for whatever reason keep putting it off?
@yolandapippin2710 thank you for asking. I have actually been putting off a lot of stitching videos because I was doing true beginner projects. So I guess is not really the product, but the product in the videos Ive been putting off.
@loghillenterprises4585 I once made a wooden toy Noah's ark for my nephew when he was a toddler. It had 8 pairs of animals I cut from different types of exotic woods. He loved it and started playing with it, putting the animals in the ark. Probably one of my favorite reactions to date.
Hey Big Stacks! Another great video my man, and I can't wait for the next one! Question: What was the first leathercrafting project that you did that REALLY got you interested in the hobby?
@jdf3953 Great question and a quick story to answer it. My sister and I took her son to the amusement park nearby where we grew up. He really wanted to go on this water ride, but no one wanted to go on it with him. I fell on the sword and got drenched. My really nice real leather belt got soaked and it broke apart once it was dry and brittle. So my very first project was a really nice leather belt.
@kevincollier4747 Thank you very much. As for the concho, are you trying to set it through both lengths of belts, or just the top layer? Either way, just make sure it's a very tight fit in the hole. Use a test piece of leather first. If you are doing through two pieces of leather, you might need s longer screw so it will catch some threads and a very small washer.
Do you think with a little modification that the last one would be better? Adding a spring to help keep the jaws from flopping open or switching to a toggle. I like the pivoting down option.
@maddawgnoll8378 it is very possible. I really like the toggle clamp a lot though, so I personally wouldn't do it. But then again, I don't think the pivoting feature is that important to me. I do like the wider jaws and the two holes in the base of #4. I'm thinking about drilling a hole in the center of the base of #3.
@freestyleleatherstudio5800 thank you very much for the complement. I really have shied away from stitching because it's not my favorite. I'm hoping the stitching pony will change that. I have a few pricing irons and stitching punchs, but they are nothing special. I wish I had a better answer for you, I'm just being honest.
Just how often do you actually USE a pony? I'm pretty new to the hobby and so far most of my projects have me holding the leather item in my lap or on a table surface to stitch....
@tomslater7548 You don't have to use a stitching pony. I got by for a long time without one. But, they are great when you feel you are missing out because you weren't born with a third hand.
@michaelweems2873 @jdf3953 I really liked that stitching pony, and I have made other videos reviewing snaps, punches, and some other tools., so please feel free to look around my channel. As for how I got started in leather ... My sister and I took her son to the amusement park nearby where we grew up. He really wanted to go on this water ride, but no one wanted to go on it with him. I fell on the sword and ended up getting drenched. My really nice real leather belt got soaked and it broke apart once it was dry and brittle. So my very first project was a really nice leather belt.
@dcobbfox Let me try to reach out to the seller/ manufacturer to tell them to get their stock straight. All four were on Amazon prime a couple of weeks ago when I ordered them. It was actually a condition I chose when picking stitching ponies. My gut tells me it's a matter or the supplier needing to restock Amazon to fulfill Amazon Prime shipping, but I'llb reach out to them and see if I can get a response.
@AidenJoshua-et6dp Getting better is combination of practice, patience, attention to detail, education, and inspiration. I can definitely help you with the last two if you subscribe to my channel and hit the notification bell. The first three are on you, my friend.
@jkratzer5773 I really don't have a recommended thread since Ive only used craft store waxed thread and some cheap stuff that came with leatherworking kits. It's exactly like the thread that came with that first stitching pony.
@franciscojaviermezano8055 When I have wet molded, I never worried about the leather getting hard. I just add some neatsfoot oil to soften it a bit, but it holds its shape better when it's hard.
Use cold water to mould. Once dry, dye if you're going to, allow to dry and condition or hot stuff. Don't soak the leather too much. If you're worried about not wetting it enough, have a spray bottle of water to hand while molding 😉
Possibly silly question but here it is. Why isnt the clamp up the top near the gripping end? Chesterton's Fence gets me to ask such questions, silly or not.😊
@jfilm7466 I'm not 100% sure, you pose a very good question. My best guess would be having the fulcrum lower would result in greater clamping force. Or maybe it gives you a deeper throat to your clamp so if you are stitching something like a bag it won't get in the way.
@@bigstacksshop The depth for a bag does make a good point. I'm going to build one for fun with a one handed locking system and markings on the sides for the usual suspects of height/depth. Maybe a one handed ratchet open and closing mechanism on the top grips which should stay out of the way of the leather. Thanks for the inspiration and I love learning new skills. I'll probably make a pig's ear of it 😂
What are the skills that someone should develop to move from beginner to intermediate leather crafter? What about intermediate to advanced? How might someone perfect those skills?
@M.Melnick If you want to progress from beginner to intermediate, I would say focusing on your cut quality is a big step. Anyone can put a knife to leather, but keeping your tool perpendicular is key to a great finished product. If you want to become a Master, which I admit I am not, there are a few things I would focus on. Good stitching, tooling, finishing, and vision are what separate the best. This only comes with practice and attention to detail. Don't try to become a master overnight, like eating an elephant is about taking little bites and focusing on one thing at a time.
@@bigstacksshop This makes a lot of sense. I often need to remind myself about cutting perpendicular to the leather, particularly around tougher cuts. The master level is far off, but I was curious what to shoot for. Thank you for the reply and sound advice.
@richsherman8706 contact cement is exactly what I use. I've seen the gentleman from @blackflagleather use some type of leather glue that I want to try out.
@gerardmartyn7596 sincere thanks for the kind words. I didn't try it between my knees, but you might correct. I thought it was designed to put the base under your leg(s) for stability, but I'm new to stitching ponies.
When using the Pony what threads and needles do you use, never used a pony but as I sew mainly with artificial sinew I kinda thinking a Pony would help.
@tony29685 I just use some cheap wax thread that came with an Amazon kit someone purchased for me as a gift. It works well, and lasts forever because I don't stitch a lot. I plan on doing more stitching now that I have a stitching pony.
Nice review of those stitching ponies! What would be some pitfalls for us leather workers to watch out for? I've been making belts, bags, wallets and purses for a while but often get frustrated because my items do not come out picture perfect.
@caseyroberts918 I say if your projects don't come out prefect, try to practice just those things you have issues with if you feel they are really noticable. I will say that a an artist, you will notice very tiny imperfections which other people look over. Don't stress over it, I think it's better to be hand made with quality materials than machine made with crappy ones.
@1germanzapata There are so many choices. My next leather purchase will come from Springfield Leather because I heard you can sign up for the wholesale club really cheap. You can also buy direct from tanneries. If you are looking just for tools or hardware, a lot of people hit up Buckle Guy. It would be a great video idea, thank you!
@Big Stacks Small Workshop Way back when I was helping a blacksmith I know with some stuff we ended up making our own wooden jigs and wet forms for leather to make commonly crafted items a bit easier to make. It has me convinced that the 3 disciplines of metalworking, leatherworking, and woodworking go amazing together.
Love your videos! My question is regarding outdoor leather, I am making lever covers and foot rest covers for my motorcycle: What do you recommend for both protecting and/or rejuvenating outdoor or motorcycle leathers?
@tigeronabike I'm very familiar with motorcycles. What kind of covers are you trying to make? Tank bib? Bag lid covers? Are you covering the passenger footpegs when you mean foot rest covers? I need a little bit more info please to answer your question. And thank you for the kind words regarding my videos!
@samanthaorchard6174 Definitely check out my other videos. I have everything from beginner leather tools to beginner leather projects and free pdf patterns if you join the Big Stacks Family of Makers and sign up for my newsletter! These were the kinds of projects I started with, and sometimes still make today. Thank you for asking.
@BK33REVIEWS I've purchased leather online from Weaver and Tandy before. I've heard Springfield Leather is also a great online seller. If you have a Hobby Lobby near you, they also sell smaller rolls of veg tan, just wait for the sales since they can be a bit expensive.
@chrisspaulding7921 hmm, that's a tough one. Your mark must represent you or your business's vision. I tied mine to the fact my family has had small shops for generations and we are originally from Pittsburgh, PA. So I put a small shop with big smokestacks like steel mills have historically had. Plus, it helped that my nickname was Big Stacks years before I ever started this channel. My 100% focus is on the small shop and getting people off their couch and into their shop making something fun and relaxing. It takes some inner searching and inspiration to come up with something other than a few catchy words to stay true to yourself I hope this helps. If you aren't great with artwork, I would suggest reaching out to a graphic designer for help.
@ronnross I'm pretty you can use them for waxed canvas, but I'm not sure. Do you think it would be better to punch stitching holes in waxed canvas or force the needle through the fabric?
@@bigstacksshop I've never worked with it but I want to use it for an upcoming project. I just watched an Adam Savage video where he makes an apron out of it, and he just sewed it.
@@RonnRoss I would hesitate to cut holes in woven fabric like canvas, even if it's waxed. It's okay with leather because is a solid piece of materil. Straight up sewing it would likely be best because you would not want to make tiny cuts in the fibers.
@@RonnRoss I have played with canvas, not waxed however, I use a set of chisels that have little awl points to them so they don't cut the material. Without doing this my stiches do not form a nice consistent line or spacing . I also allow a larger seam allowance when I do this, to give more material around the stitching. In addition, where possible I cement seams together. I have only played with this approach, but what simple things I have made (mainly tool pouches and what not) have turned out decent.
I have a military sniper friend who I asked about this. He suggested using a sock filled with dry beans & rice. Then you can gently squeeze the sock to raise the barrel ever so slightly. If you really wanted to use leather, I would go as thin as possible for flexibility. But he suggests against it, since the leather will harden over time. Just keep a zip-loc bag in your case so you can throw your sock in there when you aren't using it. Otherwise you might get some rice grains in your case.
Love your videos. Thanks for all what you do! Since I have watched almost all of them and you have answered all questions related to leather crafting already, my question is what camera gear do you use to capture those great videos?
@markawad7643 Thank you for the complement and the great question. Believe it or not, I use a Samsung Galaxy 10 right now to capture my videos. Here is the thing to keep in mind, I tweaked the settings on the video to capture things as best I can. Im looking to upgrade soon to a video camera soon for my primary shots and will continue to use the Galaxy for secondary shots. I also have a GoPro knockoff for overhead shots.
@@bigstacksshop great set up. Your videos are clear and in my opinion the use of the smart phone help the task of editing videos easier and looking better. I have tons of camera gear but I realized that using my smartphone is way more convenient. Keep on crafting my man!
There are several types of people, some simply buy, others make it themselves because they think they will save money, and we are the third who just like to make things, and not because we want to save money. Of course, this is for hobby.
I've always wondered if those little ponies 🎠 were any good - now I know. Question: Still, I wish there were "sit-on" versions for little money, too. Thanks for sharing this info. 🏇🐴
A full size stitching horse that you sit on isn’t hard to build. I made mine out of my previously home built pony and scrap I had around the garage. It works better in this configuration because I can put a Lot of pressure on the jaws by stepping down on the pedal then locking it in with an easy grab handle on a thru bolt. That way if it’s something I’m going to move often, I can just hold it down with my foot and not have to mess with anything for frequent repositioning but if it’s gonna be a long side to stitch, iI can lock it down. Thinking about a way to build a back rest or incorporate a comfortable factory seat from something that’ll be more comfortable. Got an old motorcycle seat mounted on it now n it’s comfortable but I’ve got a bad back n need some support.
@@invictusbp1prop143 I like this idea of being able to use a foot pedal as a lever to hold your work and lifting your foot to release and adjust your work piece. Thank you for sharing.
@jimjenkins5184 thank you so much, I sincerely appreciate that. I try really hard to give you guys my best for 90% of the videos and I hope it shows. Some videos I post are clips of live videos or mash-ups of other videos. They fill in the gaps, but I'm not surprised when they don't perform as well as others.
That's not stitching; those holes are massive😂 No need for a pony with those! I'm guessing that's just for illustration purposes. I have one like the second version. I made it less slippy by gluing some scrap leather in the jaws with the flesh side out.
@dshe8637 Yes, I know ... I hate that punch. It was great when I was beginner. It's also great for quick and easy stitching on camera because I can stay out of the way of the camera and stitch very fast using it. I am looking for a good mid-priced set of stitchong chisels if anyone wants to recommend them. The cheap ones just don't cut it.
You have listed all the parts & pieces, amf I'd love to see how you put them together. Please post a picture to social media and tag @bigstacksshop so I can see it. I'm very interested. Please and thank you.
@whysprs I answered this within the first minute of the video. The average person would waste about 20 hrs designing and building their clamp if they could find a comparable one at Amazon or some other retailer.
I don't agree with you. As a maker I enjoy making some of my own tools. I made my own stitching pony completely out of reclaimed materials that cost nothing. Better than buying some cheap Amazon junk!
@j.p.3563 I appreciate your comment. Making your own tools is a right off passage in many ways. I just feel a lot of time would go into the research and design to the point where it was easier for me to buy a few of them off Amazon and keep the one I liked best. A couple of these were junk, but I'm confident in the one I liked the best.
@@bigstacksshop I can understand a video like this for those just getting into the craft or any craft. As a seasoned maker just getting into leather work, I do appreciate many of your videos, I have found them helpful especially when looking for tools that are lower cost that aren't specialized for leather working. I might be a little ambitious, but my main interest is shoe making(cobbling). Keep making videos that are helpful to beginners!
@ericschultz3056 I agree it wouldn't take long to build, you'd spend more time designing one or researching it, especially if you've never built one before. That being said, if you consider your total time spent it's more economically feasible to buy one. But if you do build one, you can build it to the exact specs you are looking for.
Stitching Pony - not a tool I was even contemplating yet. Thank you for vid so that I can decide what I may need later or if ever. I have a bunch of questions for you but since I have to pick one -
My Question is: What is the one tool that you shouldn't skimp on and should get the best that you can afford.
Reading some of the already asked questions, I look forward to your answer no matter the contest outcome.
@crz4rg252 Thank you for your kind words. If it came to one item I wouldn't skimp on ... I really can't answer that yet. I skimp almost everywhere because Im cheap. I am considering buying a real nice set of pricing irons because I really don't like the results of any of the inexpensive ones Ive tried. And I don't want to waste any more money on a creaky pricking iron until I try one of the good ones. I know this isn't a direct answer, but I hope this helps. Subscribe and stay tuned, because hopefully I find that nice pricking iron I've been seeking.
@crz4rg252 you are the winner of the stitching pony, my friend. Please contact me and I'll be happy to send you the exact stitching pony I chose.
Hey, GZ on winning the contest! From my limited experience, the tools that really made a difference for me were the ruler, scalpel and mallet. If one of these betrays you, it hurts. I've been using cheap chisels, they make clean enough holes for me. Skiving knives are way too expensive, and on top of that they require much skill to use, I just got a cheap French skiver for rare occasions. However, the most important thing that must not fail you at any cost is the hardware and threads: don't save on those, especially if you work with good leathers.
@@matkosmat8890 You have shared a lot of good info here. I second not going cheap on the hardware.
@crz4rg252 Just checking to see if you are still around. I want you to buy that stitching pony.
OLD Leather Smith here, I have been doing leather 4 over 40 years I didn't have all the fancy ones just one long board 2 hold it steady with a Wing nut 2 fasten the clamps together. There was and still is a stitching horse clamps tight by using your feet a lot more expensive but that I am a tall man I had 2 make major adjustments. Sorry 4 so loooong. GOD'S BLESSINGS ✝️⚾🙃
@james2592oldleathersmith Thank you very much for the idea. Maybe I'll have to try this for a future video
Question:
What made you decide to bring humor into your demonstrations? This is what I believe really makes it worth the time to watch your videos.
Not only are you creative, and have knowledge about the craft, It's your humor that make you lovable, watchable, and entertaining all at the same time while gaining knowledge about the leather craft business.
Thanks
@james.l.harvey8116 Thank you so much for all the complements. My first few videos I tried to be serious because I didn't want to screw up. It was fun making them, but I didn't enjoy myself as much because I wanted people to take me seriously and not as some goofball.
One day I decided to me my normal self while filming, I'm someone who likes enjoy life and have fun. I'm hoping that is how my videos come across now. Again, thank you for the complement.
After seeing your video…love your honest commentary I decided I could use my wooden clamp design to hold my embroidery hoop with a piece of felt
@Delillehowfru I'm glad I could be of help. Thank you for sharing.
I just use a woodworkers parallel clamp. Then I hold the bottom in a vise. Tools I already own and they are useful for other projects too.
@robd7703 Great idea! Less clutter in your shop
Same here!
@mattv.7402 Very awesome. I plan on doing a video about homemade leather tools. Do you think people will have an interest in this?
@@bigstacksshop I sure would! There are a ton of expensive tools that are just not feasible for a small shop to purchase.
@@mattv.7402 Its good to hear a viewer say this. I hear so much stuff in my comments about how the basic tools I use are garbage and I they advise people to only get the best. I guess I need to go back to my story about the people in 3rd world countries who are master craftsman way beyond whatever most people can do, and they have the most basic of tools. Thanks for reining me in from the madness. Lol
Everyone has to find what works for them. At its core, a stitching pony is just a third hand. There's third hand tools in other activities I'm into, for example a third hand tool that allows you to properly adjust cantilever brakes on bicycles. Sounds simple, but they really do make it much faster and easier.
My suggestion is to make a pony out of scrap and then use it for awhile and decide what you like or don't like about it. Make modifications and try it some more. When you dial it in and think it is close to perfect (for you!), then maybe make one with better woods and do a nice finishing job on it. My first pony was copied off of one I saw on RUclips and it cost me about $2.75, which was for the hardware to clamp it tight. The boards I already had as scrap and there's not enough fasteners to even matter. I still use it. The main modification is I took off the bolt and know and I now use a plastic C-clamp to hold it closed. Works a dream, tightens and loosens in half a second, and once you practice using it, it never gets in the way of the thread. The other thing you might consider is if you are doing a lot of belts, there are better ways to achieve that "third hand" effect. With a pony, you can manage, but you will have to keep moving the belt. There's a long clamp you can make (search for it) which is probably half the length of the belt. Helps to keep it straight for burnishing also, when you perform that step. Just some thoughts. Again, everyone has to find what works for them. Some prefer the European clam, which is similar but oh so different. Isn't it great to have options?
@RayJ It's always great to have options. Thank you for sharing.
I bought your number 3 a couple of years ago and to improve the holding power of the jaws I glued 1/16” rubber sheets in them. No issues since.
@ReadyUpGo that is a great idea. I may try a few different things in the jaws to test the holding power. I never thought of using rubber sheets
I was looking to make one, on a lark I thought what a DIY u-tube video would offer me...
And the first video I saw was yours... Bingo you are right... Time & money well saved.
I'll take your advice; I think I like the bench clamp down version.
Too bad I missed the deadline though.
@majorrogerragland48 Thank you for sharing. I have to agree, most often i would rather spend my time doing other things. I do plan on making some wood working tools in the future, but the plans will be coming from a book I read. It's more for the challenge than anything else.
On the 4th design, I think the 17", that is used while sitting in a chair. Makes clamping your work easier. The cross board on the bottom goes under your knees and the angle adjustment is to move it away from your body. Nice video!
@tracybonham8814 Thank you so much for the complement, and especially for the additional information.
Just like powertools, there is a benchtop and floor model. 🤣🤣🤣
Nice video! Since I am just starting..it helped me a lot. Thank you.
@bonniehatcher8198 Thank you my friend. Be sure to subscribe for more tips.
I'd made a 'protoype' pony out of scrap bits and pieces just to try out if a pony would make leather sewing easier. For me it didn't but what did make a huge difference was the pricking chisels I used. I had been using some Amazon grade chisels and was very disappointed in them. In frustration I took a punch, from the set of punches on my bench, and ground it down with my Dremel. With a bit o' beeswax my new leather chisel was punching holes like they were going out of style.
It would be interesting to get your view on the different pricking chisels available.
Have you ever dyed veg tan black and then had a kind of white haze appear on the leather surface?
@JointerMark First of all, I would love to find out more about how you ground down these chisels. Please contact me on social media @bigstacksshop if you have any pictures.
As for your question. I do not recall ever dying leather black and getting any white haze that I noticed.
I've been doing leatherwork for 40 years, and that stitching pony is useless, the locking mechanism wears out very quickly, I wound up putting a 1/4" bolt with a hole through knob. I will be making a new stitching pony this weeked.
@glennmeek2718 I appreciate your input my friend, I'll keep an eye on it.
Yea, like I said that mechanism stops working pretty quick. Hard to stitch a holster when the damn thing won't hold pressure, LOL. Great videos by the way.@@bigstacksshop
Thank you very much my friend.
Hey Big Stacks, Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just getting into leather work and didn't even know what a stitching pony was. Prayers Flying from Michigan
@2woofs784 Thank you very much my friend!
i bought one with a table clamp attached to it for $36. absolutely worth the extra cost.
i clamp the pony to my desk and watch YT while i stitch. i can rotate the pony anyway i need. the plank bases were too cumbersome and required extra tools to secure it.
is there any way for viewers to share pictures of projects with you? my first project is turning out pretty good. probably surprisingly good for others.
im almost done with it just need one more weekend im not busy.
@darkshadowsx5949 I really think that's a great option! Thank you for asking, you can share any of your projects on social media and tag me with "@bigstacksshop". I'll be able to see anything with my name tagged in it, which I search every once in a while.
6:58 On number four, if you file the plastic into a wedge on one side, adjust it to where it needs to be and knock it into the groove to secure it, then wouldn't you have one handed operation after that? Plus you could mark you most used heights for saving time.
@jfilm7466 This could possibly work. Just cut a couple of groves at different locations. I'm still a fan of the one I kept though.
When I saw a stitching pony for the first time, I immediately wondered how the hell is this supposed to hold my project in place, looked too wonky. So, I learned to do without. For larger projects such as bags, I attached a long strap of leather on the ceiling above my workbench, and I clamp to it whatever I want kept out of my way.
@matkosmat8890 That's a great idea, thank you for sharing.
I always appreciate how you show and teach. You are a master! Thank you.
@KimosKreations Thank you for the kind words, my friend.
Thanks for sharing I’m looking to buy stitching pony. My question would be what type of edger and how to close the edges.
save me a lot of time researching thanks! I just started with leather crafting I think the pony would be a very useful tool.
@garyhoward3923 Thank you for commenting. I feel they are helpful when it comes to quality stitching.
Clearly I missed the giveaway haha. I still have a question.
While using leather dye (water based etc.), how can you go about giving the coloration depth? I tried using dragon scale stamps and then dying it green. The stamping job was okay for a beginner (I was happy with it), but the dye job just didn't seem to have a depth to it that gave the impression of lifted scales.
I guess a better question would be; is there a way to lighten or darken a dye job on leather that won't destroy stamping, or other tooling work?
@azurearcade342 some people suggest dying before stamping, but the dye usually doesn't sink deep enough into the leather to come out nice. I would do exactly what you have done, try using 2 or 3 coats of dye for a rich color, just before sure to wipe off before it sets in.
If you are looking to make your tooling really pop, apply some antiquing gel after dying the leather. Also, don't forget to use a top cost like resolene or tan cote to protect your dye and antiquing from wear.
My question is do you prefer to stand or sit while stitching? If you sit, describe the type of chair you sit in and why that particular chair? Thanks 😉 I guess this is a multi level question but I am curious as to your answer as a fellow crafter 😊
@salt1173 before the stitching pony, I would sir in my easy chair and watch TV while stitching. Thank you for asking.
Great review. What leather types can't be burnished?
@johnlageau2414 I would say leather that is too thin and floppy. Goat skin would be a perfect example of this. It's something you might find in soft gloves.
HAVING USED A Stitching PONY for about 70 + years number three is best. Al Stolman gave plans for building a stitching pony that used a chair. The reason the longer base on the one you chose isl so you can sit on it on a chair to stabaliize it.
@lswen7737 I sincerely appreciate your feedback. While it is a nice feeling to have my choice validated, I feel it's more important my viewers are able to get the most accurate information. Feel free to come in anytime, even if I'm wrong.
Hi. Thanks for your videos. I'm new to leathercraft and am working on one of my first projects. I'm making a wet molded phone holster. I wanted to incorporate a layer of emf shielding on the side of my body with carrying my phone so I doubled up 4 to 5 oz pieces with foil layers between them for the back panel. But I also have the wet molded front to attach too. My question is, how many layers can you punch nicely at a time for stitching. Thank you.
@codybaker1645 That will mostly depend on the depth of your stitching chisels or punches. Look at how deep your punches go before you get too far along with your project.
@@bigstacksshop thank you.
Ya, I'm one to buy what has been made aswell. It saves on the aggravation side. I bought my pony at HOBBY LOBBY just before Christmas . It was half off, you can't beat that with a stick. My question, who makes and where can I purchase the best stitching Needels? My birthday is May 22ed.
@mixhaelfawver3436 Im not sure what the best needles are, I just use craft store needles designed for leather. If I are to buy the best of some leather craft tool, I'd probably pass on the best needles and spring for the best pricking irons or knife. I feel you would get more quality difference here. That being said, I'm a cheapo so I'm not sure I would even buy those.
ok, thanks.
One thing to consider is the height of the pony. If you get the shorty it may limit your size of project.
@larrycumbia2741 you are a Big Syacks Family member who always comes in clutch! This is a great point I didn't even consider.
I just found you due to a "short" great channel. If you could only have one edger which one would it be.
@skullvalleyleatherworks Thank you so very much for the kind words. If you are taking about edge bevelers, I have to think a #2 is my favorite and most versatile.
I've already spent over 20 hours designing this thing in my head. Now I'm just going to wait for your giveaway :) Have you got any tips for skiving? I get too high on one side, then take too much off that, until eventually, I chop of the whole bit!
@tom2move I used to be the worst at skiving leather. Then I watched some youtube video where the idea is to draw your skiver at an angle instead of straight down. No lie, this process works great!
@@bigstacksshop Many thanks, I'll give it a try.
Get the blade sharper than any other blade you own, and do it flat on a hard surface like granite if you have it. Make sure your skiver can be used with the blade nearly flat in the cutting surface. Too steep an angle and you’ll dig too deep. If your using the typical starter Chinese made skiver, sand a big flat spot on the round handle to get the blade angle lower. It’ll keep it from rolling off your bench too. I actually modified the Chinese one I started with by cutting the blade at an angle so instead of being straight at the end, the profile was angled from the right corner back to about an inch and a half or so closer to the handle. That way the new cutting edge I ground in is angled and it makes it easier to feather out a cut with it angled . I generally set the leather up pretty good then just cut a little at a time and let the knife glide on a diagonal. Keep it sharp. Which is hard on those Chinese knives because the steel is junk. If you dont want to angle the blade like I did I would recommend rounding the corners off a little at least. Just don’t go too far and don’t get the metal too hot. You’ll ruin what little heat trea5 there is on the edge
Thanks for the infos! Can we use a vice by adding wood on each side instead of a stitching Pony ? It is the first time I see a stitching pony and it will be the first time I will sew by hand a bag. Thanks for your comments.
@lucie4687 You can try doing this, just be careful. The big benefit I can see of using the stitching pony over a vice is the ability of the stitching pony to put pressure just below the steam and keep the rest of the work unclamped. If you csn find a way to accomplish this with the vice, I say give it a try.
Great review! I think that number 3 is my favorite as well, very good construction. My question: Whats the best leathercrafting tip you have heard in your years of experience? Wonderful video!👍👌
@jartyparty Thank you so much for the kind words. I consider myself as an intermediate leathercrafter who is also content creator. I don't have 20 years of practice in leather working or anything close. But I do feel taking one technique at a time and having purpose to make small improvements with each project should be your goal. If there is one technique I would point to, it's keeping that knife perpendicular while you are cutting.
@@bigstacksshop Thanks for the tip, you might have just saved my fingers!😂😂😂
Number three looked like it was the best. I like the first one because it was small, but it didn’t have a base. Great show by the way.
@dmunoz Thank you, I sincerely appreciate it!
Is the stitch produced from a Speedy Stitcher as good as a hand stitch?
I am an amateur knife maker and I hand sew a sheath for each knife. When I started out I picked up a "Speedy Stitcher." I makes a weird stitch that if not pulled correctly looks awful, luckily with the welt and the other two layers there is plenty of room to hide the stitch. Also, thank you for explaining what to look for in a stitching pony, I think I will have to look into investing in one to make life easier.
@Oregonbladez I got a speedy stitcher off another leather worker a year or so ago, but I have yet to use it. I've only hand stitched so I'm afraid I can't answer your question.
Is it like a sewing machine, where you go around a single thread on the back side?
I appreciate the kind words about my video.
@@bigstacksshop it sounds like you may have to do a video to try out the speed stitcher and then compare the two stitches? Might be entertaining/informative.
I am very new at leatherwork and was considering investing in a stitching pony. This was great information! The questions are: can a stitching pony be made by buying the components and making one yourself cheaper? Also I would like to see a video comparing hand stitching versus using a sewing machine for leather to understand to pros and cons of investing in a machine. What do customers prefer?
@heraldinestone2186 Thank you very much for your question. You might save a few bucks making one yourself, but with this stitching point under $30 I feel the saving of money is not worth the savings of time. If you practice and get good at saddle stitching, your products will be of much better quality than seeing with a machine. This is because if the threads get damaged, they are less likely to unravel.
new to the craft and have enjoyed the review videos on items I will need eventually if I continue. Have you done any reviews of leather. what leather is better for for certain items and what you can buy online versus what is at some of the craft and big box stores. I have seen leather as high as several hundred of dollars for just a couple of square feet and as cheap as 60 for half a cow. Thank you for any help!!
@toysanford2402 Thank you so much for your question. I would suggest starting with less expensive leather and then trying better leather as your skills improve. You are going to mess up, that's just part of the learning process. As you get better, level up to nicer leather.
More important than the quality of the leather, learn early on to choose the right leather thickness appropriate for the project you want to build. This will decrease the amount of headaches and frustration you will end up having while starting out.
great reviews, I built my own a while back for stitching knife sheaths. I am a blacksmith first and leather working became something I have learned to really enjoy doing. Do you thin that last one would have been better if you only had one knob? I have many times wished I could move my lock knob up a bit for a stronger hold. I didn't like the double knob setup on that one but if it had a captured sliding nut on one side and the knob on the other for one handed use. Just a thought, great video, thanks!
@nightphall6810 Is very possible. I did like the idea I could adjust the holding power because the knob was movable. But then there is still the matter of the toggle clamp being easier to use with one hand.
I do wish #3 had the wider jaws that were on #4, though.
Thanks, Being a woodworker first, leather hobbits second. I built my own. Custom Designed for me and my work area.
Question: What one size edge beveler do you suggest?
@062809 Thank you for your input on the stitching pony. There really is no right answer, it is a personal preference.
As for the beveler, #2 is a great size for general purpose , and probably should be the first one someone buys. A #3 is a great second beveler because it's great for thicker leather, like belts and such.
I like the second one and own one, but I learned how to stitch leather without any pony and I like that better. It is really easy and fast once you get the technique down. I learned from Corter Leather.
@stuartmarkman769 Thank you for sharing. I've watched some of Corter as well. @dongonzalesmaker is still my favorite though.
Great video, me it took 30 sec to make mine, wooden bed slat cut in galf that was lying around, glues some leather at the end, trimmed, rapped some para cord around jobs a good'ern! I probley spent more time contemplating how somone can charge 300 for pony haha! Thanks again!
@Inspiraljez Sounds good. I wanted my point to not a bit more polished, but for many people there is not what they are looking for. I've never examined a $300 pony before, but for such a price it should be able to do your taxes as well.
@@bigstacksshop haha $300 for pony i would want to ride it home haha!
@InspiralJez 🤣🤣
I'm sure it has been given away by now, but I still have a question about it if thats ok - are you planning on putting leather on the one you liked the most to help protect the items you are stitching, or do you not think that is needed? I'm just getting into leather working.
@jamesmacleod8388 Thank you for asking. I am planning on putting some leather on it to protect my work. Right now I've slowed down a bit making videos to build a great storage solution for my shop. Hopefully I'll be able to post a video about that soon.
I dont have 1 and id love 1, they are cool looking...❤❤..#3 looks awesome !!
@pamelalittlefield4608 #3 was definitely my favorite!
I like wood screw clamps two threaded rods with handles hardwood left and right clamps tightens tight vas a vice
@scottmcintosh2988 These can definitely hold your work, I would just be careful about tightening down too hard because they are thicker and can compress the leather and sacrifice the look of your finished product. This is why I really wanted to get a stitching pony, the area you clamp is much thinner.
I have the fourth one because of the height. I like the tilt feature. The knobs for me are a none issue. I can see where the one handed clamp would be nice.
@larrycumbia2741 The height is nice. Maybe I'll try the 4th one from a sitting position to see if the height makes a difference.
Yeah, in my mind the knobs seem more secure. I think I would just drill a small hole, so I could pin one knob in place.
@@krahnjp I'm sure I could tighten #4 down harder, but the goal isn't to have it super tight, you just want to be able to hold your workpiece in place while stitching and not mar your leather. You can tighten #4 just enough, I just found the whole process a lot more cumbersome using the knobs.
I would want to add a toggle clamp to the fourth pony add leather to the jaws then mount it on a stitching horse.
@@elund408 I'm definitely adding leather to the jaws of whichever one I'm keeping
As someone looking into taking up leather working as a hobby what would be your must have tools for a beginner?
@mcooper547713 I suggest people start with a many tools as they already have at home, like a utility knife and some type of non-marring hammer. Then get a cutting mat and a set of Owden punches from Amazon. Check my channel videos for basic leather working projects you can make with these.
Great comparison of all four ponies. I like #3 myself. I have a question: I recently was gifted a box of leather sides, that apparently had been stored for quite some time. The leather is not supple at all! Is there a way to "re-hydrate" this leather?? There are 4 sides in the box...a lot of leather to just discard! Thanks for the informative videos!
@fyfedrum Thank you very much, I was very fond of #3 as well. As for the leather, I would condition it with neatsfoot oil or some other type of leather conditioner. Even if it's creased or shows signs of wear, it would look great with the appropriate project.
Thanks for the videos. My question is for those interested in beginning this hobby, are there reasons one might not want to get started in leather working?
@r0b0tcat Thank you so much. There are so many reasons to start leather crafting. It is such a fun hobby, you don't need a dedicated space, and the entry cost is one of the lowest ... you can get a basic set of tools for under $50. The only reason I think someone might not want to get into leather craft is if they are vegan and would have issues working with animal hides. I appreciate you asking.
You don't have to be a big time small town Sherriff like Andy Griffith to pick my comment for the giveaway, but what would you suggest for the best adhesives to use when gluing leather or combining leather work with other materials like cloth?
@samuelgolden4648 I like your style there, my friend. For leather on leather I like contact cement. Depending on your other materials you could hit beast mode with E6000.
Very nice! What's the one leatherworking project you've always dreamed of completing that you haven't gotten the chance to work on yet?
@PenguinGentleman Thank you so much for asking! I want to make a tooled motorcycle seat, but never find the available time for such an intense project. Videos take a long time to make, perhaps one day. I also need to level up my hand tooling skills with more practice first. I'm not even sure I'm at a place where I can teach others this process yet.
Thanks for the review. One thing you didn't address that I am interested in is the height difference. Was the shorter more compact unit better or worse height wise? I know sometimes a little bit of height difference can cause you to stoop ever so slightly and hurt your back, but a little too tall and it causes arm and shoulder pain from having to elevate them. What would be the ultimate height in your opinion?
You make some very excellent points. I wouldn't what is ideal because I don't have enough hours on either one. Maybe I'll try #3 and #4 and see how it affects my old body.
I love your channel over any other leather worker i’ve come across here on youtube but for my question, How do you mold leather? Its something i’ve wanted to get into
@pebbleandleo2709 thank you so very much. When molding leather, you soak it around the object you want to form it around, clamp it, and let it dry. Then you glue, cut, and stitch after it's dry.
@@bigstacksshop thank you i will be trying it out
Thank you for the useful video, which products that you make sell the best?
@TomCross945 Belts and keychains were the most popular. Keep in mind you have to be able to make them efficiently so you don't drown in your labor costs. Practice will help you become more efficient, and if they look good you can sell your practice pieces.
I greatly enjoy your videos , very informative and straight forward. My question: Is there a leather working project that you would love to do but for whatever reason keep putting it off?
@yolandapippin2710 thank you for asking. I have actually been putting off a lot of stitching videos because I was doing true beginner projects. So I guess is not really the product, but the product in the videos Ive been putting off.
Your stitching pony looks a lot better than mine, lol😂
@brianlawson3757 🤣🤣🤣 thank you for sharing. I initially like it a lot, but time will tell. I'm really glad I didn't build one.
I have been wanting one. thanks for helping me out!!
@dcobbfox Thank you so much, I'm glad I was able to help.
Thanks for the reviews! My question is, what was the best reaction you got from something you made for someone?
@loghillenterprises4585 I once made a wooden toy Noah's ark for my nephew when he was a toddler. It had 8 pairs of animals I cut from different types of exotic woods. He loved it and started playing with it, putting the animals in the ark. Probably one of my favorite reactions to date.
@@bigstacksshop Great gift, and a great memory for you both!
@@loghillenterprises4585 Thank you. He was about 2 when he got it, and I think he still has it today.
Hey Big Stacks! Another great video my man, and I can't wait for the next one! Question: What was the first leathercrafting project that you did that REALLY got you interested in the hobby?
@jdf3953 Great question and a quick story to answer it. My sister and I took her son to the amusement park nearby where we grew up. He really wanted to go on this water ride, but no one wanted to go on it with him. I fell on the sword and got drenched. My really nice real leather belt got soaked and it broke apart once it was dry and brittle. So my very first project was a really nice leather belt.
@Big Stacks Small Workshop That's awesome, I'm glad you found such a practical application out of leatherworking so early on!
Thanks for a fun video. How easy is it to inlet a concho into a doubled thickness of leather belt or bandolier?
@kevincollier4747 Thank you very much. As for the concho, are you trying to set it through both lengths of belts, or just the top layer? Either way, just make sure it's a very tight fit in the hole. Use a test piece of leather first. If you are doing through two pieces of leather, you might need s longer screw so it will catch some threads and a very small washer.
Do you think with a little modification that the last one would be better? Adding a spring to help keep the jaws from flopping open or switching to a toggle. I like the pivoting down option.
@maddawgnoll8378 it is very possible. I really like the toggle clamp a lot though, so I personally wouldn't do it. But then again, I don't think the pivoting feature is that important to me. I do like the wider jaws and the two holes in the base of #4. I'm thinking about drilling a hole in the center of the base of #3.
Ideas on alternatives for coloring leather?
@mrjoe4737 I would stick with either leather dye, or maybe cloth dye if you can't find the right color.
I am curious as to what you think are the best options for pricking irons (chisels). Great video by the way.
@freestyleleatherstudio5800 thank you very much for the complement. I really have shied away from stitching because it's not my favorite. I'm hoping the stitching pony will change that. I have a few pricing irons and stitching punchs, but they are nothing special. I wish I had a better answer for you, I'm just being honest.
This is why I appreciate your videos. No bs with a straight answer.
davebanister6310 I appreciate you, my friend
Just how often do you actually USE a pony? I'm pretty new to the hobby and so far most of my projects have me holding the leather item in my lap or on a table surface to stitch....
@tomslater7548 You don't have to use a stitching pony. I got by for a long time without one. But, they are great when you feel you are missing out because you weren't born with a third hand.
Do you prefer to use it standing or sitting?
@diggrouze I have only used it while standing, so I cannot make an honest comparison for you.
Thank you for the information I'm new to leather working and trying to build my tool supplies. How did you get into leather working?
@michaelweems2873 @jdf3953 I really liked that stitching pony, and I have made other videos reviewing snaps, punches, and some other tools., so please feel free to look around my channel.
As for how I got started in leather ... My sister and I took her son to the amusement park nearby where we grew up. He really wanted to go on this water ride, but no one wanted to go on it with him. I fell on the sword and ended up getting drenched. My really nice real leather belt got soaked and it broke apart once it was dry and brittle. So my very first project was a really nice leather belt.
Usually ships within 1 to 2 months. that is a long wait for the stitching pony. What do you recommend?
@dcobbfox Let me try to reach out to the seller/ manufacturer to tell them to get their stock straight. All four were on Amazon prime a couple of weeks ago when I ordered them. It was actually a condition I chose when picking stitching ponies.
My gut tells me it's a matter or the supplier needing to restock Amazon to fulfill Amazon Prime shipping, but I'llb reach out to them and see if I can get a response.
I know it's frustrating, I wish I had control over the situation when these things happen. I appreciate your patience.
How do you get better at it and can you give me more tips
@AidenJoshua-et6dp Getting better is combination of practice, patience, attention to detail, education, and inspiration. I can definitely help you with the last two if you subscribe to my channel and hit the notification bell. The first three are on you, my friend.
What is your recommended thread for a beginner?
@jkratzer5773 I really don't have a recommended thread since Ive only used craft store waxed thread and some cheap stuff that came with leatherworking kits. It's exactly like the thread that came with that first stitching pony.
When you are wet molding, how can you avoid the leather gets too stiff?
@franciscojaviermezano8055 When I have wet molded, I never worried about the leather getting hard. I just add some neatsfoot oil to soften it a bit, but it holds its shape better when it's hard.
Use cold water to mould. Once dry, dye if you're going to, allow to dry and condition or hot stuff. Don't soak the leather too much. If you're worried about not wetting it enough, have a spray bottle of water to hand while molding 😉
Possibly silly question but here it is. Why isnt the clamp up the top near the gripping end? Chesterton's Fence gets me to ask such questions, silly or not.😊
@jfilm7466 I'm not 100% sure, you pose a very good question. My best guess would be having the fulcrum lower would result in greater clamping force. Or maybe it gives you a deeper throat to your clamp so if you are stitching something like a bag it won't get in the way.
@@bigstacksshop The depth for a bag does make a good point. I'm going to build one for fun with a one handed locking system and markings on the sides for the usual suspects of height/depth. Maybe a one handed ratchet open and closing mechanism on the top grips which should stay out of the way of the leather. Thanks for the inspiration and I love learning new skills. I'll probably make a pig's ear of it 😂
@@jfilm7466 pigs ear, lol. You got it, my friend.
What are the skills that someone should develop to move from beginner to intermediate leather crafter? What about intermediate to advanced? How might someone perfect those skills?
@M.Melnick If you want to progress from beginner to intermediate, I would say focusing on your cut quality is a big step. Anyone can put a knife to leather, but keeping your tool perpendicular is key to a great finished product.
If you want to become a Master, which I admit I am not, there are a few things I would focus on. Good stitching, tooling, finishing, and vision are what separate the best. This only comes with practice and attention to detail. Don't try to become a master overnight, like eating an elephant is about taking little bites and focusing on one thing at a time.
@@bigstacksshop This makes a lot of sense. I often need to remind myself about cutting perpendicular to the leather, particularly around tougher cuts. The master level is far off, but I was curious what to shoot for. Thank you for the reply and sound advice.
Thanks for the video! What to you use to hold the prior to stitching? Regular contact cement fumes is starting to give me a headache!
@richsherman8706 contact cement is exactly what I use. I've seen the gentleman from @blackflagleather use some type of leather glue that I want to try out.
Did you try the last pony sitting and between your knees? I think that's how that one is meant to be used. Great video as always 👍
@gerardmartyn7596 sincere thanks for the kind words. I didn't try it between my knees, but you might correct. I thought it was designed to put the base under your leg(s) for stability, but I'm new to stitching ponies.
It also has a hole at one end so it can be attached to the base in the middle or at the end. I use mine in the middle and clamp both ends to my table.
@@larrycumba2741 I noticed this but forgot to mention it when explaining things in the video. I actually plan on drilling a hole in the middle of #3.
When using the Pony what threads and needles do you use, never used a pony but as I sew mainly with artificial sinew I kinda thinking a Pony would help.
@tony29685 I just use some cheap wax thread that came with an Amazon kit someone purchased for me as a gift. It works well, and lasts forever because I don't stitch a lot. I plan on doing more stitching now that I have a stitching pony.
What is your favorite adhesive to use in your leatherworking?
@4whunt I really only use contact cement. I like the fact it holds well and if I really needed to get it apart I could heat it.
Nice review of those stitching ponies! What would be some pitfalls for us leather workers to watch out for? I've been making belts, bags, wallets and purses for a while but often get frustrated because my items do not come out picture perfect.
@caseyroberts918 I say if your projects don't come out prefect, try to practice just those things you have issues with if you feel they are really noticable. I will say that a an artist, you will notice very tiny imperfections which other people look over. Don't stress over it, I think it's better to be hand made with quality materials than machine made with crappy ones.
Besides Tandy and Weaver, do you have any other leather/leather goods suppliers that you like to use in the US? Maybe this can be a whole video!
@1germanzapata There are so many choices. My next leather purchase will come from Springfield Leather because I heard you can sign up for the wholesale club really cheap. You can also buy direct from tanneries. If you are looking just for tools or hardware, a lot of people hit up Buckle Guy. It would be a great video idea, thank you!
Have you looked into Bump Jigs/Positioning Jigs?
@jtmc93 I have not with leather working, but I have used similar methods/tools in woodworking. And they saved me a lot of time and accuracy.
@Big Stacks Small Workshop Way back when I was helping a blacksmith I know with some stuff we ended up making our own wooden jigs and wet forms for leather to make commonly crafted items a bit easier to make. It has me convinced that the 3 disciplines of metalworking, leatherworking, and woodworking go amazing together.
I've been doing leather craft four years. how long did you wait until you started to sale your product ?
@donniejohns5236 Once I felt I had mastered my first product, I was already listing it online for sale. It was probably less than a year.
Love your videos! My question is regarding outdoor leather, I am making lever covers and foot rest covers for my motorcycle: What do you recommend for both protecting and/or rejuvenating outdoor or motorcycle leathers?
@tigeronabike I'm very familiar with motorcycles. What kind of covers are you trying to make? Tank bib? Bag lid covers? Are you covering the passenger footpegs when you mean foot rest covers? I need a little bit more info please to answer your question.
And thank you for the kind words regarding my videos!
Great video. Would be worth a round two if you can make the money spent off the views or had enough fun for the money and sharing.
@Fearsomewarrior thank you very much. What would you like to see in round 2?
Is it possible to use our vises with leather and foam protectors? Why could this be a bad idea?
@jfilm7466 I say try it. I like to experiment to see what works and what doesn't.
@@bigstacksshop Many thanks.
I am just thinking of basic leather work (for now). How did you get start?
@samanthaorchard6174 Definitely check out my other videos. I have everything from beginner leather tools to beginner leather projects and free pdf patterns if you join the Big Stacks Family of Makers and sign up for my newsletter!
These were the kinds of projects I started with, and sometimes still make today. Thank you for asking.
I'm new haven't started yet really lol have my tools but scared to death where and how to get my leather please help
@BK33REVIEWS I've purchased leather online from Weaver and Tandy before. I've heard Springfield Leather is also a great online seller. If you have a Hobby Lobby near you, they also sell smaller rolls of veg tan, just wait for the sales since they can be a bit expensive.
Can you tell how to come up with a maker's mark so not to copy someone else thank you
@chrisspaulding7921 hmm, that's a tough one. Your mark must represent you or your business's vision. I tied mine to the fact my family has had small shops for generations and we are originally from Pittsburgh, PA. So I put a small shop with big smokestacks like steel mills have historically had. Plus, it helped that my nickname was Big Stacks years before I ever started this channel. My 100% focus is on the small shop and getting people off their couch and into their shop making something fun and relaxing.
It takes some inner searching and inspiration to come up with something other than a few catchy words to stay true to yourself I hope this helps. If you aren't great with artwork, I would suggest reaching out to a graphic designer for help.
Have you ever worked with waxed canvas? I wonder if the same tools for leather work can be used?
@ronnross I'm pretty you can use them for waxed canvas, but I'm not sure. Do you think it would be better to punch stitching holes in waxed canvas or force the needle through the fabric?
@@bigstacksshop I've never worked with it but I want to use it for an upcoming project. I just watched an Adam Savage video where he makes an apron out of it, and he just sewed it.
@@RonnRoss I would hesitate to cut holes in woven fabric like canvas, even if it's waxed. It's okay with leather because is a solid piece of materil. Straight up sewing it would likely be best because you would not want to make tiny cuts in the fibers.
@@RonnRoss I have played with canvas, not waxed however, I use a set of chisels that have little awl points to them so they don't cut the material. Without doing this my stiches do not form a nice consistent line or spacing . I also allow a larger seam allowance when I do this, to give more material around the stitching. In addition, where possible I cement seams together. I have only played with this approach, but what simple things I have made (mainly tool pouches and what not) have turned out decent.
These all sounds like not only viable, but excellent ideas! Thank you for commenting.
what thickness leather for a b/p shooters bag
I have a military sniper friend who I asked about this. He suggested using a sock filled with dry beans & rice. Then you can gently squeeze the sock to raise the barrel ever so slightly.
If you really wanted to use leather, I would go as thin as possible for flexibility. But he suggests against it, since the leather will harden over time.
Just keep a zip-loc bag in your case so you can throw your sock in there when you aren't using it. Otherwise you might get some rice grains in your case.
Love your videos. Thanks for all what you do! Since I have watched almost all of them and you have answered all questions related to leather crafting already, my question is what camera gear do you use to capture those great videos?
@markawad7643 Thank you for the complement and the great question. Believe it or not, I use a Samsung Galaxy 10 right now to capture my videos. Here is the thing to keep in mind, I tweaked the settings on the video to capture things as best I can. Im looking to upgrade soon to a video camera soon for my primary shots and will continue to use the Galaxy for secondary shots. I also have a GoPro knockoff for overhead shots.
@@bigstacksshop great set up. Your videos are clear and in my opinion the use of the smart phone help the task of editing videos easier and looking better. I have tons of camera gear but I realized that using my smartphone is way more convenient.
Keep on crafting my man!
Solid content. I wish it was just a little faster. Subscribed. Cant wat to see your channel grow.
@nickybeingnicky thank you very much for the kind words and the subscription!
There are several types of people, some simply buy, others make it themselves because they think they will save money, and we are the third who just like to make things, and not because we want to save money. Of course, this is for hobby.
@MrBostjanVidmar You are correct my friend, there is absolutely nothing wrong with making something simply because you enjoy making it.
I've always wondered if those little ponies 🎠 were any good - now I know. Question: Still, I wish there were "sit-on" versions for little money, too. Thanks for sharing this info. 🏇🐴
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
A full size stitching horse that you sit on isn’t hard to build. I made mine out of my previously home built pony and scrap I had around the garage. It works better in this configuration because I can put a Lot of pressure on the jaws by stepping down on the pedal then locking it in with an easy grab handle on a thru bolt. That way if it’s something I’m going to move often, I can just hold it down with my foot and not have to mess with anything for frequent repositioning but if it’s gonna be a long side to stitch, iI can lock it down. Thinking about a way to build a back rest or incorporate a comfortable factory seat from something that’ll be more comfortable. Got an old motorcycle seat mounted on it now n it’s comfortable but I’ve got a bad back n need some support.
@@invictusbp1prop143 I like this idea of being able to use a foot pedal as a lever to hold your work and lifting your foot to release and adjust your work piece. Thank you for sharing.
I just bought the pony you like
Very awesome, after you try it out, let us know what you think.
Another enjoyable video!
@davebanister6310 Sincere thanks!
I love these videos Big
@jimjenkins5184 thank you so much, I sincerely appreciate that. I try really hard to give you guys my best for 90% of the videos and I hope it shows.
Some videos I post are clips of live videos or mash-ups of other videos. They fill in the gaps, but I'm not surprised when they don't perform as well as others.
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great review!!😀
@venketmala8891 thank you very much, I appreciate it.
That's not stitching; those holes are massive😂 No need for a pony with those!
I'm guessing that's just for illustration purposes.
I have one like the second version. I made it less slippy by gluing some scrap leather in the jaws with the flesh side out.
@dshe8637 Yes, I know ... I hate that punch. It was great when I was beginner. It's also great for quick and easy stitching on camera because I can stay out of the way of the camera and stitch very fast using it.
I am looking for a good mid-priced set of stitchong chisels if anyone wants to recommend them. The cheap ones just don't cut it.
2 boards, 3 carriage bolts, nuts and washers.. boom there you go cheap third hand..
You have listed all the parts & pieces, amf I'd love to see how you put them together. Please post a picture to social media and tag @bigstacksshop so I can see it. I'm very interested. Please and thank you.
So the answer as to why nit build your own wasnt answered in the video.. smh
@whysprs I answered this within the first minute of the video. The average person would waste about 20 hrs designing and building their clamp if they could find a comparable one at Amazon or some other retailer.
I don't agree with you. As a maker I enjoy making some of my own tools. I made my own stitching pony completely out of reclaimed materials that cost nothing. Better than buying some cheap Amazon junk!
@j.p.3563 I appreciate your comment. Making your own tools is a right off passage in many ways. I just feel a lot of time would go into the research and design to the point where it was easier for me to buy a few of them off Amazon and keep the one I liked best. A couple of these were junk, but I'm confident in the one I liked the best.
@@bigstacksshop I can understand a video like this for those just getting into the craft or any craft. As a seasoned maker just getting into leather work, I do appreciate many of your videos, I have found them helpful especially when looking for tools that are lower cost that aren't specialized for leather working. I might be a little ambitious, but my main interest is shoe making(cobbling). Keep making videos that are helpful to beginners!
Thank you very much, my friend!
I'd rather build one. These all look like trash. It's a simple project to do in an hour and doesn't cost much
@ericschultz3056 I agree it wouldn't take long to build, you'd spend more time designing one or researching it, especially if you've never built one before. That being said, if you consider your total time spent it's more economically feasible to buy one. But if you do build one, you can build it to the exact specs you are looking for.
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