Couple of comments. First of all I did like this video 😁. I’m a medic. And there are a ton of situations where it’s easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask permission. I’m also a general contractor. And there are NO situations where that flies with a building department. You WILL get the hell fined out of you. Second, yes it is based on safety, but make no mistake…they capitalize on this to make absolute most money possible off of you. I’ve been dealing with the town next to me and just in probing around a bit, I’ve found they’re tiny friendly. But there are hoops to jump through. RVs aren’t even considered. Having said that I do know of a number of persons who have parked their RVs on friends and families property and live there full time. In town. Second if your wanting to poo poo having egress take note…we had a call to the rear of an address in our town. Man down, possible cardiac arrest. He was in a toy hauler. If it had been anything else, and it had been a cardiac arrest, he’d have been done. I say that because it happened in the next town over. And getting that regular sized person out of a regular sized trailer was a chore to say the least. No room for an extra 2-3 people to work him. No room for the equipment and area to work. The guy in the toy hauler was having a diabetic crisis. And because we could drop the back we had full access to him and could start on him immediately instead of having to somehow drag him out of the unit to work on him. Not to mention, if there’d been a fire…would you want to have to crawl through a burning tinder box to get out. So definitely have that egress.
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I wish just one politician could care enough to start a bill for legalization of tiny homes and have at least one tiny home community in every state and mayb tiny homes would be easier to attain for us low income peeps that need a home
There was such an issue with the homeless in Fresno Ca that they allowed a soup kitchen up there to put in “Home Depot” sheds. I think they were actually given to them by Tough Shed. You had the tweakers trying to get some AC in the summer, but there were those who just, legitimately, fell on hard times at it helped them out. It kinda turned into the Wild West there for a bit, but that eventually got, somewhat, straightened out. You get these states that scream they need a solution for homelessness or the housing crunch, but they haven’t figured out how to tax the crap out of you to do this. Trust me, they will….and they’ll screw this up too
I agree with you for the most part but they're not concerned about our safety. They're mostly concerned about our tax dollars. Let's be real. Then again you're in that industry.
Thank you for watching. Before working with Zoning and Planning I did have much of the same theory. After speaking with the folks involved in permitting and understanding "the why" on a deeper level I have since changed my mind. While building codes can be over the top, the main point is to keep folks safe. We definitely need a baseline for safety. Pushing this endeavor forward here in Las Vegas has taught me so much. Many of these folks that work in these offices want to see change. It just takes someone willing to put in the time and effort to get everyone on the same page. For the city of Las Vegas, I have taken on that responsibility. I want to see change and won't stop until I do :)
Actually it's all about safety. That's the reason why code enforcement is a thing. The fees are not expensive. I'm a builder and have been for 30 years. The codes that are enforced in construction are for safety in every way.
Wrong on so many levels. Just because your home is NOT "RVIA" does not mean you can stay in it year around.You say "If Its permitted" good luck with that! I would believe it if you where a manufactured home builder or modular builder but not a builder who uses NOAH. You say with your homes Clients can stay in them 12 months out of the year. That's very misleading. On another note we are RVIA manufactures and currently doing builds for clients in San Jose where it will be fully permitted by the city. The first of its kind for the city. Our build process NFPA 1192 and 1195 are key to the ADU laws in California now. RVIA does recognize RV's are used full time in some cases and its no secret in the industry. You say" no ceiling height restrictions" incorrect again, NFPA 1195" park models" requires ceiling height minimums, most importantly in the loft. Also you are wrong about egress in the loft. NFPA 1192 6.2.1.2 each sleeping area must have a secondary means of escape. We always put egress windows in our lofts so please don't compare us to shade tree builders. We are one of the few builders who actually execute the codes correctly like guard rails/handrails on open sides of steps and guardrails in lofts. We are a women minority owned corporation manufacturing in a 24K sq ft facility. We have come very far. We are also state licensed manufactures and dealer. Do you sale your tiny homes thru a dealer? Selling your tiny homes trough a DBA is actually illegal without a dealership. This is for consumer protection as I am state bonded and insured. Even modular and manufactured homes require this. Arlin Mendoza CEO Forever Tiny Homes Liberty Cabins INC. ruclips.net/video/AoD2RZWMtpY/видео.html
While I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video I feel something must have been lost in translation. We are moving forward with permanent structures that will actually have an occupancy permit. Let me take a minute to cover where I feel your comment lost track. Tiny homes that are considered RVs will never hold an occupancy permit through Z&P because they are considered RVs. RV means recreational vehicle. While I think it is great that San Jose is moving forward with their tiny home endeavor, like you said it is the first of its kind. Meaning, currently all other municipalities do not have code written to adopt something like this. Does not mean it cannot be done. Let's cover some park model language used in your comment. As to my knowledge there are no RV certified park models. This video is very specific in intent. I break down the difference between RV certified tiny homes and Appendix Q. I am not covering park model situations. It is true within RVIA certified tiny homes there are no ceiling height restrictions or standard loft heights. Could that be different in a park model? Yes absolutely, but again something that I feel was unfortunately lost in translation. This video is covering RV certified tiny homes not park models. As far as comparison is concerned, I am unaware of your business and did not mention it in the video. What is a shade tree builder? While I am happy to "e-meet" another woman in the tiny home business I implore you to rewatch the video. I am hoping my comment was able to clear some things up for you in your understanding of Appendix q and how it relates to RV code. If you have any further questions please feel free to keep a polite and professional conversation going.
@@FarOutTinyHomes First of its kind for "San Jose" They are not the only ones doing this. Fresno, San luis Obisbo, City of Los Angeles, San Diego, Humboldt county ETC have all passed this. Also its not impossible to zone property to accommodate RV tiny homes. Its just a matter of location and intent. Nearly every tiny home village is zoned for RV's. Rezoning land to RV or commercial is possible also. You could have one or 20 tiny homes if planed accordingly. So theoretically it "can" be better as you can make more use of land and not be restricted to one unit. As for park models, park model RV tiny homes are becoming dominant in the THOW industry. Any certified tiny you see wider than 102" is a park model and yes it is a RV certification. The code is NFPA 1195 and are treated similar to 1192 except engineering is required IE loft height etc. 1192 does not require ceiling heights and yes this is a plus in my opinion. Egresses are still required to work so I don't know what the issue is. In fact it helps the builder get more creative and allows the client to get what they want. Shade tree builder is just someone just building for fun and not really trying to make a commercial business and or following codes correctly with no means of safety to the potential buyer. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/story/2020-07-21/san-diego-approves-regions-first-tiny-houses-law-to-help-solve-housing-crisis
Ok I see the confusion. I’m speaking about Appendix Q in relation to RVIA. Appendix Q is within the IRC and if you are building to ANSI you are not building to IRC. I’m speaking on permitting tiny homes on a permanent foundation. The main point has to do with the differences in code. And that ANSI is not IRC. And it is most certainly difficult to obtain an occupancy permit with an RV certified tiny home. Not impossible but difficult. We shall see what Andrew Morrison is able to work out with the ICC in regards to permitting moveable tiny homes. As of right now, while your RV certified tiny homes are acceptable in communities you would not be able to acquire an occupancy permit for a client to buy their own parcel of land and live in the home full time.
@@FarOutTinyHomes Pulling permits to live in a RV THOW full time is reality. As I said before we just did it in San Jose and its possible in the other places I listed. You can also rezone a parcel to campground,MHP or RV park and live alone or even just get a parcel that is un zoned. Its not as difficult as you make it sound. One of the big issues with making it "permanent" is the fees can be very high just to break ground regardless of the size of the house. Once you make it permanent you have to deal with property tax bonds etc This is why small homes are not very common as you still have to pay impact fees/bonds so most people rather get the most out of the parcel and go larger per sq ft. Also I am curious as to what manufacturing licenses you will be utilizing? Manufactured homes and or modular state license are a accomplishment to have also very expensive. Who will be your inspection agency? Other issues to be aware of is not everywhere allows Tiny Homes, manufactured or modulars even if permanent . Our county alone has a 600 sq ft minimum. Yes some loop holes exist and I am aware of them. Nothing is perfect of course yet RV certification is on a great track at least in California.
I don't believe you're a member of RVIA and you're talking about using an RV for a permanent residence. That is illegal and being a member you should know that. Besides who cares about getting certificates/seals of approval from RVIA or NOAH. We can use that money to go through local code enforcement inspections board for c/o. She's talking about the IRC and Appendix Q which happens to be a tiny home code.
Can I get my THOW RVIA certified and NOAH certified? Or can I have my RVIA THOW NOAH certified after it is built? (going through an RVIA certified builder).
I would suggest going through your state and local code enforcement and submitting your plans. They will guide you in what you can and cannot do as far as the thow. RVIA and NOAH are money rackets. You can get a certificate of occupancy through your local code enforcement inspections board. It's just like building a house or shed or deck or remodel. You will have to do this before any construction. Even the trailer will be inspected first. Don't build or buy anything until you know what they will require.
@@ncinteriorsplus3520 Thanks so much for your response, we will be travelling all over the US with it which is why we want to have the most possible places to park it and we can't really focus on one state or local codes :( We have not built or bought anything yet, we're waiting for quotes from two different companies right now.
@@luvurhorse only for insurance purpose. If you happen to park in a tiny home community or an RV Park they usually want insurance on the home. In that case NOAH certified will allow you to insure it. First thing to do is call several insurance companies and see what they require to cover your home.
Couple of comments. First of all I did like this video 😁. I’m a medic. And there are a ton of situations where it’s easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask permission. I’m also a general contractor. And there are NO situations where that flies with a building department. You WILL get the hell fined out of you. Second, yes it is based on safety, but make no mistake…they capitalize on this to make absolute most money possible off of you. I’ve been dealing with the town next to me and just in probing around a bit, I’ve found they’re tiny friendly. But there are hoops to jump through. RVs aren’t even considered. Having said that I do know of a number of persons who have parked their RVs on friends and families property and live there full time. In town. Second if your wanting to poo poo having egress take note…we had a call to the rear of an address in our town. Man down, possible cardiac arrest. He was in a toy hauler. If it had been anything else, and it had been a cardiac arrest, he’d have been done. I say that because it happened in the next town over. And getting that regular sized person out of a regular sized trailer was a chore to say the least. No room for an extra 2-3 people to work him. No room for the equipment and area to work. The guy in the toy hauler was having a diabetic crisis. And because we could drop the back we had full access to him and could start on him immediately instead of having to somehow drag him out of the unit to work on him. Not to mention, if there’d been a fire…would you want to have to crawl through a burning tinder box to get out. So definitely have that egress.
Thanks for the information!
Thank you for sharing all of the knowledge you have! I love watching your videos :)
Nanci you are the best!
First..."let the commercials run for this woman's site; she makes money via watchers....and deserves to. Secondly, good video.
Hi Frank! Thanks so much for watching. Really appreciate the positivity.
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I wish just one politician could care enough to start a bill for legalization of tiny homes and have at least one tiny home community in every state and mayb tiny homes would be easier to attain for us low income peeps that need a home
Kim I’m right there with you🖤 We are really trying to do just that here in Las Vegas.
There was such an issue with the homeless in Fresno Ca that they allowed a soup kitchen up there to put in “Home Depot” sheds. I think they were actually given to them by Tough Shed. You had the tweakers trying to get some AC in the summer, but there were those who just, legitimately, fell on hard times at it helped them out. It kinda turned into the Wild West there for a bit, but that eventually got, somewhat, straightened out. You get these states that scream they need a solution for homelessness or the housing crunch, but they haven’t figured out how to tax the crap out of you to do this. Trust me, they will….and they’ll screw this up too
So, what certification would be best for someone like me who plans to live in their future THOW full time? Thanks for answering!
What code or standard do you use? RVIA NOAH, not how many others there are. ? What is the standards? What organization?
I agree with you for the most part but they're not concerned about our safety. They're mostly concerned about our tax dollars. Let's be real. Then again you're in that industry.
Thank you for watching. Before working with Zoning and Planning I did have much of the same theory. After speaking with the folks involved in permitting and understanding "the why" on a deeper level I have since changed my mind. While building codes can be over the top, the main point is to keep folks safe. We definitely need a baseline for safety.
Pushing this endeavor forward here in Las Vegas has taught me so much. Many of these folks that work in these offices want to see change. It just takes someone willing to put in the time and effort to get everyone on the same page. For the city of Las Vegas, I have taken on that responsibility. I want to see change and won't stop until I do :)
Actually it's all about safety. That's the reason why code enforcement is a thing. The fees are not expensive. I'm a builder and have been for 30 years. The codes that are enforced in construction are for safety in every way.
Wrong on so many levels. Just because your home is NOT "RVIA" does not mean you can stay in it year around.You say "If Its permitted" good luck with that! I would believe it if you where a manufactured home builder or modular builder but not a builder who uses NOAH. You say with your homes Clients can stay in them 12 months out of the year. That's very misleading. On another note we are RVIA manufactures and currently doing builds for clients in San Jose where it will be fully permitted by the city. The first of its kind for the city. Our build process NFPA 1192 and 1195 are key to the ADU laws in California now. RVIA does recognize RV's are used full time in some cases and its no secret in the industry. You say" no ceiling height restrictions" incorrect again, NFPA 1195" park models" requires ceiling height minimums, most importantly in the loft. Also you are wrong about egress in the loft. NFPA 1192 6.2.1.2 each sleeping area must have a secondary means of escape. We always put egress windows in our lofts so please don't compare us to shade tree builders. We are one of the few builders who actually execute the codes correctly like guard rails/handrails on open sides of steps and guardrails in lofts. We are a women minority owned corporation manufacturing in a 24K sq ft facility. We have come very far. We are also state licensed manufactures and dealer. Do you sale your tiny homes thru a dealer? Selling your tiny homes trough a DBA is actually illegal without a dealership. This is for consumer protection as I am state bonded and insured. Even modular and manufactured homes require this. Arlin Mendoza CEO Forever Tiny Homes Liberty Cabins INC. ruclips.net/video/AoD2RZWMtpY/видео.html
While I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video I feel something must have been lost in translation. We are moving forward with permanent structures that will actually have an occupancy permit.
Let me take a minute to cover where I feel your comment lost track. Tiny homes that are considered RVs will never hold an occupancy permit through Z&P because they are considered RVs. RV means recreational vehicle. While I think it is great that San Jose is moving forward with their tiny home endeavor, like you said it is the first of its kind. Meaning, currently all other municipalities do not have code written to adopt something like this. Does not mean it cannot be done.
Let's cover some park model language used in your comment. As to my knowledge there are no RV certified park models. This video is very specific in intent. I break down the difference between RV certified tiny homes and Appendix Q. I am not covering park model situations. It is true within RVIA certified tiny homes there are no ceiling height restrictions or standard loft heights. Could that be different in a park model? Yes absolutely, but again something that I feel was unfortunately lost in translation. This video is covering RV certified tiny homes not park models.
As far as comparison is concerned, I am unaware of your business and did not mention it in the video. What is a shade tree builder? While I am happy to "e-meet" another woman in the tiny home business I implore you to rewatch the video. I am hoping my comment was able to clear some things up for you in your understanding of Appendix q and how it relates to RV code. If you have any further questions please feel free to keep a polite and professional conversation going.
@@FarOutTinyHomes First of its kind for "San Jose" They are not the only ones doing this. Fresno, San luis Obisbo, City of Los Angeles, San Diego, Humboldt county ETC have all passed this. Also its not impossible to zone property to accommodate RV tiny homes. Its just a matter of location and intent. Nearly every tiny home village is zoned for RV's. Rezoning land to RV or commercial is possible also. You could have one or 20 tiny homes if planed accordingly. So theoretically it "can" be better as you can make more use of land and not be restricted to one unit. As for park models, park model RV tiny homes are becoming dominant in the THOW industry. Any certified tiny you see wider than 102" is a park model and yes it is a RV certification. The code is NFPA 1195 and are treated similar to 1192 except engineering is required IE loft height etc. 1192 does not require ceiling heights and yes this is a plus in my opinion. Egresses are still required to work so I don't know what the issue is. In fact it helps the builder get more creative and allows the client to get what they want. Shade tree builder is just someone just building for fun and not really trying to make a commercial business and or following codes correctly with no means of safety to the potential buyer. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/story/2020-07-21/san-diego-approves-regions-first-tiny-houses-law-to-help-solve-housing-crisis
Ok I see the confusion. I’m speaking about Appendix Q in relation to RVIA. Appendix Q is within the IRC and if you are building to ANSI you are not building to IRC.
I’m speaking on permitting tiny homes on a permanent foundation. The main point has to do with the differences in code. And that ANSI is not IRC.
And it is most certainly difficult to obtain an occupancy permit with an RV certified tiny home. Not impossible but difficult. We shall see what Andrew Morrison is able to work out with the ICC in regards to permitting moveable tiny homes. As of right now, while your RV certified tiny homes are acceptable in communities you would not be able to acquire an occupancy permit for a client to buy their own parcel of land and live in the home full time.
@@FarOutTinyHomes Pulling permits to live in a RV THOW full time is reality. As I said before we just did it in San Jose and its possible in the other places I listed. You can also rezone a parcel to campground,MHP or RV park and live alone or even just get a parcel that is un zoned. Its not as difficult as you make it sound. One of the big issues with making it "permanent" is the fees can be very high just to break ground regardless of the size of the house. Once you make it permanent you have to deal with property tax bonds etc This is why small homes are not very common as you still have to pay impact fees/bonds so most people rather get the most out of the parcel and go larger per sq ft. Also I am curious as to what manufacturing licenses you will be utilizing? Manufactured homes and or modular state license are a accomplishment to have also very expensive. Who will be your inspection agency? Other issues to be aware of is not everywhere allows Tiny Homes, manufactured or modulars even if permanent . Our county alone has a 600 sq ft minimum. Yes some loop holes exist and I am aware of them. Nothing is perfect of course yet RV certification is on a great track at least in California.
I don't believe you're a member of RVIA and you're talking about using an RV for a permanent residence. That is illegal and being a member you should know that. Besides who cares about getting certificates/seals of approval from RVIA or NOAH. We can use that money to go through local code enforcement inspections board for c/o.
She's talking about the IRC and Appendix Q which happens to be a tiny home code.
No ceiling height restrictions would be a good thing right? Is that what I’m understanding?
Wouldn’t it be better to have the tiny home NOAH certified
Can I get my THOW RVIA certified and NOAH certified? Or can I have my RVIA THOW NOAH certified after it is built? (going through an RVIA certified builder).
I would suggest going through your state and local code enforcement and submitting your plans. They will guide you in what you can and cannot do as far as the thow. RVIA and NOAH are money rackets. You can get a certificate of occupancy through your local code enforcement inspections board. It's just like building a house or shed or deck or remodel. You will have to do this before any construction. Even the trailer will be inspected first. Don't build or buy anything until you know what they will require.
@@ncinteriorsplus3520 Thanks so much for your response, we will be travelling all over the US with it which is why we want to have the most possible places to park it and we can't really focus on one state or local codes :( We have not built or bought anything yet, we're waiting for quotes from two different companies right now.
@@luvurhorse make sure they are building it to the IRC tiny home code "Appendix Q "
You will be just fine with that.
@@ncinteriorsplus3520 Great! So we don't *need* either of the certifications?
@@luvurhorse only for insurance purpose. If you happen to park in a tiny home community or an RV Park they usually want insurance on the home. In that case NOAH certified will allow you to insure it. First thing to do is call several insurance companies and see what they require to cover your home.
Jesus Christ you’re talking so much without really saying anything whilst regurgitating the same crap over and over again.
Annnnd with that, thanks for watching!
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You are more than welcome:)