T7FR - Learn to Wavedash and Backdash Cancel in Under 10 min on Pad!!! Tutorial by Moruma
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- THE NOTATION ON THE TOP HAS TYPOS!! The correct notation is:
F~n~d, d/f...
B~n~b, b/b...
Sorry about that.
Wavedash/Lightdash and Backdash tutorial for pad users!! This easy method will have you learn how to be a pro in 10 minutes! Sorry about the bad microphone sound. Also this is my first tutorial ever... Lol
For further explanation, the timing of both inputs is that of a crouchdash or the speed of doing a shoryuken motion. Enjoy :)
omfg you dont you how much i troubled with wavedash until i found your tutorial. Ater an hour practicing i can pull the electrics pretty consistently by registering 2+3 to R2, my wavedash is much faster and my left thumb is not hurt anymore lol cant thank you enough
“Hmm lemme try this bullsh- IT WORKS”
Man it was crazy seeing Kazuya actually wavedash and KBD like a pro 😂 I’m gonna practice this now thanks for the advice on the right analogue stick
Sadly I play Mishimas on both Analog Sticks😂😂😂
Update: I’m a pad player now
Lol Can you update to a stick?
Protip: put 2+3 on your L2 and you can do easy electrics with this method or even normal Dpad inputs
No matter where you put the “2”, the speed of the input doesn’t change.
@@Moruma I was referring to your problem with having your right thumb busy with the right analog stick. If you use L2 as 2+3 instead of the 2 button, your right thumb doesnt need to move away from the analog stick, or you dont need to switch to a one handed wavedash for instant electrics :)
alpha style lol ur right
True was wondering about that
Good way to utilize the analog button, but the problem with it is you place your right thumb/finger too far from the button so make it harder to pull a just frame moves like EWGF.
i prefer to use my left thumb only for wavedashing, it is slower but more controlled.
Vinsen Narendra That's why the last crouch dash in the wavedash is performed with the DPAD :)
Definitely will try practicing it, the other problem is the quality of DS4 pad is so shitty, it makes me afraid to broke the analog during wavedashing lol
Vinsen Narendra All you are doing is hitting "forward" with the analog. It should be okay!
this is allowed in tournaments btw.
How do you make the right joystick for movement? It only let's me use the left stick.
@@SShaBazzz watch the entire video. Goddamn do you like making yourself sound stupid? Because it sure is working.
This is godlike for pad users. thank u.
You’re so goddamnn good man thankk youu! Now I can feel more the power of mishima’s in pad godbless! Keep doing this uploads.
Cons of doing it this way is you can alternate your thumb to quickly hit an Attack
How is that a con? Lol
Thanks this is very helpful. Hated doing KBD on pad, them stick players can just spam index and thumb without timing and they can do it. At least now it's a little more balanced.
Dexter Sue Haha, as a stick player myself it's not easy either. It is only about what method is most comfortable for a player.
People always want shortcuts instead of practicing 😑
Nohops Dunkin I already know how to wavedash and backdash cancel on both sides on stick. This is to help out people who have tried practicing and yet still can't match the speed of others movement.
JinMasta wasn't talking about you I know you play on stick. I'm saying people in general always want the shortcut rather then put the time in.
Nohops Dunkin Yeah, true nowadays. I understand now.
Nohops Dunkin I work 48 to 60 hours a week. I don't have the same practice time as everyone else. But I love Tekken, if I could practice every day I would.
Kingzstreet Glad to see that I've helped!
dude.... thanks for showing me how to activate the right analog for movement! So easy to bdc now!
3 years late but thank you❤️
Thank you man great vid explained really well.
Im wavedashing now with this method!
Fahim Shafaq you're welcome!
Thanks I need that because I'm struggling too much while I'm playing Tekken 6
Same here! I'm I'm Kazuya main and it's really, really hard
My wavedash execution on stick learn for 100000year.
My wavedash execution on pad after watching this.
Took me 1 sec to be qudan
Pad make wavedash easy ?
@@rockybalboa1929 in my opinion, pad are easier. But on stick P2 is easy to learn but P1 are awkward to do. Just my opinion doe
You will still have trouble if u master this thing cause you won't be able to use limbs button properly.
Yeah
Just bind 2+3 or 1+4 to the shoulder buttons. Makes doing JF like ewgf more consistent
BROOO this shit is IQ 10000 XD. Basically the equivalent to using a crossup stick cx
Also I seen a comment about this being unacceptable in tournament's and it is because if you swap your stick through the console it will change both controller setting which for a player using a fight stick it would make it unresponsive.
Jeshii Blue I see, however I guess this works perfectly for online warriors. Lol
Oh thank you
I’m only now starting to get into playing tekken
On the verge of cheating.
Daniel Jang Lol.....right
Is this allowed in tournaments
@@chopsuey004 fuck no
@@chopsuey004 yes lol
@@EnergyTK who told you that? ofc it's allowed
Thanks this helped me alot i could do it but only a single one but now i can do more sure they slow now but its a start
There are some players who use this method still!
I know the input look like its forward'qcf but it's actually f,df so don't slide your finger on the pad just do down forward.
Jeshii Blue I have been playing mishimas for years, I think I know what I’m doing, see this video here m.ruclips.net/video/5q1rRRbSCkY/видео.html
If you could physically alter the PCB in a controller so this doesn't require accessibility options then this might be decent. It sounds scummy but if hitbox is legal don't see why this is a problem, at the end of the day it's not a macro it's just customization
I know players that do it with analog and it’s just too inconvenient for them and they’ve told me that they like this setting better. I mean, it was in TTT2 after all.
0:15 Thank you so much for this. Good vid.
Thank you! Another tutorial is coming ! :)
Thanks you are the goat
I can vouch for what you say. I can wave dash and Korean back dash with just the D pad only but it's not that quick due to sluggish inputs. It's the way the game registers the inputs from the pad as there is no d/f on the pad as you have to hit d and f together. I hate that which is the reason why I bought a simple arcade stick to practice on and I can't wait for it to come. If it's good I will never look back at a stupid pad. Also nice trick with the analogue stick might give this ago.
Phodos Varellas I believe stick is he best way to play. It's so much more fun than pad and a hitbox. But yes, this is a trick for people that just won't give up this damn pad lol
I’m Dexterous so I play On Both Pad And Analog Sticks
I just play on Korean sticks
now they have the cross up stick which essentially does the same thing but on stick
the best advice I can give to ds4 users - get ur fucking dpad replaced as 4 diferent buttons. That made precise inputs UNBELIEVABLY easier
Please how do I backdash with Bryan I've seen people do it. I can move like crazy with Bryan. But backdash fast how?
MethodMan105 It's harder than most characters. You have to Korean backdash in order to get him to cancel the backdash without the sway. The secret to backsway dashes are taps not slides!! B~n~db, b... over and over.
JinMasta hmm I'll go try this now. Thank you very much
MethodMan105 You're welcome!
JinMasta I nailed it
MethodMan105 You're welcome :)
Good explanation! I like the way you do it I'm sure it'll help others
Pacman Thanks for the appreciation. It seems some people don't like taking the easy way out of practicing. But there's no reason why everybody can't advance to the same level. We should all be trying to make the Tekken community a better place.
JinMasta agreed!
That's how I showboat after a match wave dashing
The problem with me is I'm using my thumb for pressing buttons if use it for right unlock I can't use buttons except r1,r2.
lion jojo everything takes practice, you must learn to alternate. You're not supposed to be wavedashing or backdashing most of the time.
I don't like playing with a controller but it's so much quieter and comfortable than a loud and heavy arcade stick. Most of the time I pick up my controller instead of my arcade stick because of this.
Crunk Playa69 Not all sticks are heavy, it depends on the style. Some are lighter than a dualshock or just as heavy. But, it's all about preference!
+JinMasta Way to state the obvious but you and I both know the best sticks are big and heavy. It needs to be large enough so that both hands can rest on it and it has to be heavy enough so that it doesn't move all over the place while you play. The buttons also need to feel tactile with good feedback and they have to be larger and spread out evenly so you don't make any wrong inputs. This is why the best arcade sticks are heavier and larger. Spending $30 on an awful fightstick where you can't even rest your palms on it and the buttons are not as responsive is the same as flushing money down the toilet. Every person I know who has a cheap fightstick has bought a $100+ fightstick and their cheap one is thrown in the garbage because they can't even resell it. Nobody wants to buy it.
Crunk Playa69 That actually has very little to do with it. What matters the most are good parts. Everybody likes different kinds of stick weighing heavy or light with or without wrist room and of course control layout. There are plenty of sticks that don't have wrist room. Everything is marketing. Usually thick or thin stainless steel at the bottom helps create weight rather than helping absorb temperature. The quality of the rubber feet determines exactly how much the stick will move. Weight plays a small factor because no matter what stick, if you take away rubber feet that thing is gonna move everywhere. What determines the stick price is the overall base design, technical performance (efficiency), parts design (lever, buttons), software (turbo, macro/dual mod), and flexibility (interchangeability between parts and art).
+JinMasta No, my answer isn't wrong, you're just unnecessarily getting more in-depth with the arcade stick quality. I was only stating the basics because I didn't want to write a whole essay since there's no point in doing so on a youtube comment. You saying this is like me saying that, "No, you're wrong, the stick quality is also about the additional spacing of the joystick relative to the buttons, whether it has an octagonal gate instead of a square, the speed of the gate return, whether it has authentic sanwa components or kuro buttons, and whether the design quality can withstand hundreds of hours of abuse." I mean, you can keep going on and on about what makes a fightstick the best. It's just stupid. Someone says the best cars have good quality and comfort and you chime in and say they're wrong because the most expensive cars are the ones with good traction, mileage, and design. That's basically all you've done. You're not fooling anybody.
Crunk Playa69 Crunk Playa69 No, you're basically saying that something that depends on many factors is black and white. Nice try making me out to be an idiot. You're the one that ignorantly said that the best sticks are huge and heavy while implying that "best sticks" are $100 and everything below are simply budget sticks. Only an idiot would think that bigger and heavier means better. Keep in mind, Knee's original PS3 stick was made out of see through hard plastic with solid Korean parts which looks like it's made with the cost of around $60 if he bought everything from scratch. Even if you don't have the frame, the parts aren't that expensive if you know what you're looking for and install them on a custom base. Huge money cost and weight doesn't mean anything. Smh
This really helps
It’s crazy how I can play the same with a pad and arcade stick only on tekken but other Games it depends I am better either with the fight stick or the pad.
Yoda I Am I can't play the same on pad and stick. I usually have two different playstyles because I can execute different things on each device
I still can't do it. This technique doesn't help, either. I have no idea what the problem is.
As I said in the video, do it step by step.
How to change Right Stick to Left on PC? I tried to rebind it but it doesn't work. It still uses Left Stick to
Yaksha Try using JoyToKey, maybe that will help.
not allowed in tournament setting
uh why? you can set any button configuration you want and you have to bring your own controller. is there a rule that says u cant use both analog and d pad as same input or something?
Chris Kapirig Okay... and this was confirmed by who?
I was going to say this lmao, imagine setting this up before every match.
Xeno-Eden If you do it almost as quick as I do it in the video, it shouldn't be a problem. But they might say something about it conflicting with the others players controls.
:cough: controller modding :cough:
Good.
His girlfriend holy
How can I set up my right analog stick as movement in steam?
Awesome
M.Haider Hussain You're welcome
Just easier to do it with the buttons. Though it takes a lot of practice
Oh My God, is that a good Video !
Is this even possible on ps3 for t5dr?
damn u too smart for this
Striker Paolo Acance lol well I use a Korean fightstick. When I first started Tekken, I couldn't buy a stick so I taped my controller to a stool and used it like a fightstick. Lol
Hey is this mapping still possible on ps5 settings? Need to know for upcoming T8.
Yeah, you should still be able to do it in the accessibility settings.
When you’re doing kbd, are you inputting f or b with the right stick? Hard to see
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Question.how do you control the movement meaning to start and stop dashing this way?or to do few waves only not many?also can y use this to hit the opponent when nearby and input commands to hit?i think the last one i have achieved it thanks
Thanks it helps a lot :)
Do you know how to do Bryans instant while standing multiple knees if so it would mean a lot to me I don't know how to do it 3 yrs later...
MethodMan105 Yes, you input Bryan's sway which is "qcf" then press 3. But as the name suggests, it must be inputted instantly and of course, it goes without saying that you should be inputting the notations correctly before practicing speed.
+JinMasta is it possible if you could make a tutorial like this. Because I'm stuck and I would appreciate it. And I subscribed. I want to make a long ass Bryan video combo. I'll give you credits for teaching me multiple knee combo.
MethodMan105 yeah, sure.
+JinMasta sweet thanks
It’s not that hella hard , just imagine the deathfist instead of knee
People call this cheating definitely never heard of hitbox and mixbox
I don't know why these kids disliked the video
The Man Who Laughs Because they think that this is cheating or without effort when it still takes effort just not as much practice. The people who spent blood, sweat and tears just to get two crouchdashes together are the ones disliking my video.
JinMasta i can wavedash and do pewgf consistently on both sides of pad regular way . The timing of the ewgf is still the same . you wont be getting any moves easier due to this stuff but its helps your backdashing and movement a lot in general. You still need to practice to get perfect
The Man Who Laughs Of course I can do PEWGF on both sides, backdashing and lightdashing on 2P. And fast wavedashing on 1P
probably because it's not tournament legal.
Sean Fuentes It hasn't been determined if it's not allowed in tournaments.
Isn’t working with me I don’t know why
LOL people who call this cheating never heard of hitbox
Thank you, somebody gets it.
The only person who understands this method lol. Seriously tho, Mixbox and Hitbox let you do insane movement because everything is a button.
God forbid we pad players get to change our analog controls. Smh
Plus this is not a "sad* method, it's an alternative method of doing it if one does not want to practice doing it on dpad. There's benefits to doing it on dpad so obviously those who use this method understand the cons they must go through, such as having less time to press one of the attack buttons.
Just wanted to rant a bit lol nothing personal to either of you 👍
So when you're wavedashing, with the right analogue stick do you press d/f or f?
F
Thank you! Can you side step cancel with this method as well?
Yes, having two d-pads or analogs, can let you cancel.
I'm used to tag on right analog stick so this is kinda conflicting
Nomentsoa There isn't a tag mode in T7 so there's nothing to worry about. If you're still playing TTT2, my only answer will be that you have to make a compromise. You can't have good backdash/wavedash at the expense of nothing. Simply try tagging with L1/R1 or left stick.
is this efficient for P2 side as well? or just P1
thx for the information man.
i wanna ask you a question.
how to do that button setting for pc?.
Enable steam controller configuration using big picture. When you edit your controls, you can set your controls however you want
Will this method works on p2 side?
Yes
Questions.
1. Can I wavedash without having to do that set up?
2. What is this song you're playing for the stage?
1. Yes. As I said in the video, just use the D-Pad.
2. Midtown Roars - Tekken 6 OST
What about on stick, I couldn't find a video about from you ?
JayBeee95 I have another pad tutorial and a stick tutorial coming up very soon!
Can I get an update? I’ve been hearing conflicting statements in comments. Is setting the left analog sticks input to the right one is tournament legal or not?
It’s not up to me. It’s up to the tournament organizer. Some are okay with it, some are not.
JinMasta if the cross up is allowed in tournaments where there’s directional input on both sides of a fighting stick then this should def be allowed.
Edit: after reading up on official evo rules this is allowed. Pretty much anything is allowed as long as a SOCD is enabled and there’s no mapping of buttons that allows for directional plus command inputs.
Excelent tutorial ¡¡¡
TEKKEN7 ESP no problem !
how to do this on windows?
Can you do this for tournaments
tell me what button you using on pad and on stick I mean F DF on pad And F on stick ?????
Qamar Masood "F" on right stick and "d,d/f" on the D-Pad.
@@Moruma ty mannn 😘
Is it allowed to do controller accessibility settings on tournaments?
mohamad hazim Maybe in local tournaments but not nationals.
Is this allowed in tournament play? I plan on entering one day but idk if this is actually legal.
I’m not even sure. Some people think it’s cheating and leads to TO saying no. Lots of people are uneducated about controllers that’s all.
Is this allowed in tournaments
Thanks. Very helpful. I suppose your tutorial for landing combos would be "use default settings, hold L1 and push a face button to combo"... thanks for nothing tho.
Color Bars really? You should play me and see if that’s all I really do
can i do this on pc?
wow this sync with dpad and analog looks harder than forward neutural downright +2
giorgos Vah lol Everything takes practice, nothing is free!
Smfh, i thought this would be a legit method
Also you can't backdash like this with a character who has sway for qcb
Riuzakif2000 you just input b~n~db instead
fdf on pad and f only in stick?
The input doesn’t change no matter what controller you are using. If it’s about the typo, I’ve already said that I made a mistake. Lol
@@Moruma d/f on pad and f in stick right?
this is possible on pc? with xbox 360 controller?
Vayolaitor Possible with JoyToKey
whats that?
how to use it?
Vayolaitor It's a controller emulator that lets you use your controller as a keyboard. You should be able to program the buttons to use on the right stick.
You don't need an emulator, just go to big picture mode on steam and set your right stick to function as a dpad. It's almost exactly like the PS4 but with much more options.
Fucking amazing
The Man Who Laughs Thank you!
That's not really going to make a difference using aoystick it's really easy all you you have to do it is pack back down back neutral back down back neutral down back lmao
Wtf are those tactics lmfao i never saw this coming but if it’s okay in a tournament it’s okay with me ( doesn’t mean I’m gonna use it )
this its not the Korean backdash
Marlboromishima ! So tell me, what is the "Korean backdash"?
its the most efficiency and easy way to backdash IT must have only 1 neutral, I will make a video by this weekend I gonna teach every1 ppl got this wrong and this its fundamental to be a good player and make the game more enjoyable, wait for it bro I think u gonna like it, I will show even exercises to build muscle memory =), what u r doing its called backward wavedash
if you pick a character like dragunov or Feng and if u do this the character won't move back instead will do a backsway
Marlboromishima ! Yes I know, but don't you think people should already know the input for backsway characters? If I told them the input was "b~n~db..." do you still think they'd be able to do it? It's like telling them to do a PEWGF with the analog stick. There's a reason why I didn't mention any backsway characters.
the input for kbd its easier in reality its B~bd~n~B~bd~n~B~bd~n~.... so (B=HOLDING BACK),(bd=slide from B to bd(DIAGONAL)),(n=neutral position wich mean lift your finger), after finger lifted hit and hold back quick. the trick is that when u do b~bd~n~ the game register b~d/b~b~n. wich mean that u can buffer the first b of ur next backdash
note: U CAN ONLY LIFT THE FINGER IN "n" ,95% OF THE TIME U R JUST HOLDING BACK
How are you going to fight?
You can't do that all the time
This was how I used to play, worked just fine for me
movement is too difficult for me
What the Practice and you will get better.
Can you wavedash on Tekken 6?
Yes
@@osamamanan2723 oh okay
thanks for the guide , although i don't have xbox one or ps4
GENERAL Zer0 PC I believe you can use the program JoyToKey in order to configure the right stick to movement.
i don't have PC , i only have ps1 and xbox 360
GENERAL Zer0 Then you can practice this method in TTT2.
yeah thanks
OMFG!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Kevin Fuller you're welcome buddy!
And that's not going to make no difference bro to me it seems like it would make it harder doing it like that is really easy I don't know a lot of people make it seem like it's so hard I guarantee that people aren't putting the back back in the beginning that's what starts it then you go to down back neutral
Dunno, it works for a lot of people and it worked just fine for me. If it doesn’t make “no difference” to you, leave lol
fuq KBDC ! Hayashida Step all day baby guuuurl
MuecoB Hayashida is only for Nina. Not to mention that KBDC is safer than hayashida because they added a guard for backdash. Nina still will get killed with mid tracking moves.
hell naw ! only if you CAN hit me, I shall death string all who dare interrupt mah Hayashida Step ! and this game should only be about Nina anyway mhm
MuecoB Tracking moves *track* sidestep... lol And this game is about Mishimas
overrated chars, Anna shall make her come back ! I pray everyday
MuecoB you'd fuck around & get ya shit push in, learn how to be safe at times 😂
Can you do this on PC?
Yes, enable steam controller configurations for the game in Steam Big picture. Change the right stick to D-Pad.
Alright here we go why don't we just cut corners and fool ourselves.
Are you getting any reward for doing it with simply the d pad. We are pad players we should use all of our functions to get optimal efficiency and not handicap ourselves
Name of the soundtrack?
BlackLeg Shanks Midtown Roars (Lightning Storm) Tekken 6 OST.
JinMasta Alrighty thanks a lot man!
BlackLeg Shanks no problem
How you move playing like that? -__- hard like that
Sairukuno 久美子 This is for beginners. I am a stick player ^.^
JinMasta is tekken more difficult on stick ? Im not a beginner im just asking because i play jin
Show how to do just frame punishment ewgfs and taunt jet upper.
Doing the korean back dash that fast sort of destroys the purpose of the KBD, You should wait for at least half the back dash animation before cancelling into the other back dash lmao, it's like hopping backwards really fast
Both of your hands are now occupied on movement......
Did macros suddenly die on controllers or something? ... is that why you’re saying this?
@@Moruma you wont be able to do anything like an electric, db2, hellsweep. This is basically for show
And your backdash is wack, the down input
@@MaadLuck I did it just fine lol
I never played Mishimas because this is kind of hard on a stick. I may start using a pad just to play them.
lfieldsjr13 Well I've just made it super easy!
This totural is only for wave dash and back dash. Try fright with these settings, you're not gonna have a fun time.
This totural is very good. I fright with these settings all the time.