“The other kind of freedom is the freedom to take care of ourselves and of each other, the freedom of affluence opposes and contradicts the freedom of community life.” Wendell Berry is spitting facts.
I was blown away by this film. That slab city community looked like such a lovely place to be, I really envisage myself somewhere like that - and yet here I am stuck in London typing this out on my iPhone.
Man, I just want to escape and live a simple life in a village chopping wood or something. I hate this city. Please, help me and tell me if there is any real way to get to this dream of mine.
I visited London once in the spring of 1988 , a whole new generation has grown up there that chooses to colonize and never assimilate , it's not England anymore, it's dangerous and sad , where is there any proof or actual evidence that diversity is a good idea ? Stay strong .
Thanks for bringing Wendell Berry and Huck Finn into this conversation. That quote about wanting rights, power and freedom without responsibility cuts to the heart. I find the realities of adulthood to be very hard. Yet I also know that the realities of adulthood, if done well, can change the lives of other people.
There is a big chunk that remained untold about C. McCandless. His sister wrote a book, "The Wild Truth', where she talks about the abuse she and his sister suffered. He wasn't on some existential journey. He was running away from his pain. There is one part in "The Wild Truth", where one of C McCandless's road friends erupts in a violent drunken rage, mirroring the violence of his father. That moment highlights the tragedy of that pain we as men hide from
A broken family and, on top of that, no realisation from his parents led a young man to look for happiness outside. Eventually, he found happiness in the form of nature but wasn't prepared to keep it long. On his way, he did find good connections, but maybe he needed more time to be ready to have them as he couldn't have a genuine connection with his family, especially his parents. He didn't plan to die. He wanted to live but needed to take proper precautions, which he didn't. And it ultimately led to his demise. However, people claim he wasn't sad about dying, but I believe he must have felt sad, yet he was content because he did what he wanted to do, and that's where that last not come when he wished everyone well. He said, "Happiness is only real when shared." Through this quote, I realise that he finally realised the human connection we need to live in this world at the end of his life. A genuine connection, actually. My only complaint from Chris would be his respect for his sister, as he never had a good connection with his parents, but his sister didn't deserve those years when she was waiting for him. We can learn from his life, and I wish everyone reading the comments would learn from his life.
Beautiful. This resonates so much with Gabor Mate's the myth of normal: how could a traumatized Chris not need to escape the toxicity of his former life? He sought it in books of great authors who embodied authenticity at any cost (Tolstoy, London, Pasternak), and in the wild that they admired. But the denial of community may the deepest wound, the true reason for his escape. It is truly sad he did not make it back to live what Tolstoy called family happiness. Yet his story, his words remain as a powerful message to us all, that it resonates with so many shows how much we all need community and communion with nature to heal our wounds.
Corrupt shallow society vs found family or the family we choose. This is within all of us. People spend their lives earning money and collecting things to fit in or be admired, but really we all have a drive to belong. Even if it feels like we belong outside, it's simply asking to be found and to be seen.
We are so used to urban life yet we romanticize freedom that comes with being a recluse and living a life that is free from the shackles of society. It would take immense courage and spirit to not follow the norms and to unlearn what I have learned. Fewer choices might bring more happiness than the limitless options available to our generation on a platter.
Inside of me there is a something That wants to say 'we'. But this little thing got threatend and is now marked for ever. No matter what will come... the way is built
Years after Twain published "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn," it seems Twain may have had second thoughts on the ultimate outcome of heading out to the Territory. He wrote in his notebook: "Huck comes back, 60 years old, from nobody knows where-& crazy. Thinks he is a boy, & (seeks) scans always every face for Tom & Becky &c.”
Amazing video and amazing analysis man! You made me appreciate the book/movie even more and made me see things in a different way! Great implementation of Huck Finn as well!
Escapism vs community is a false dichotomy and misunderstanding of what Chris’ intention was. He wasn’t escaping but rather running towards an explicit goal. He also had already planned to leave Alaska by the fall. He was a smart kid that almost made it out, and intentionally didn’t take a map to increase the challenge.
"A deadly civilization of piety and violence" - Huck Finn There seems to be a community of people that like to put Chris down, choosing to insult rather than understand. An example follows...no elaboration...no enlightenment...just insult. (newest first)
Perhaps: jealousy, love, bitterness, understanding, greed, progress, ego, compassion, deceit, openness are characteristics each driving all to greater or lesser degrees. Many achieve lower on those scales than others, few choose to shed ego to the benefit of the community. Mutually beneficial communities are scorned by the dominant and flawed Scientism of people like Dawkins/Plomin. Family should but the programmes of culture, state, and social media pull in different directions. We have to be better not under the self-serving laws of a self-serving state but with how we perceive and understand the motivations of others and how they fit with ours. Singing and dancing, of course, hugging and loving 😻 so long as it's not a device for more fields of corn/fructose and vasoconstriction 😂
Do you think that Wordsworth acknowledges more this sense of community and being useful to each other in comparison with the transcendentalists? I make this question because I was reading some poems by Wordsworth, and I had this impression. Amazing analysis!!
Chris McCandless was a fool. Romantic notions of him as some kind of hero is like trying to convince people that a pile of dog shit is a bowl of chocolate pudding. Whoever discovered his body in that bus found a horrific pile of rotting flesh, not some young heroic who gently passed into the arms of Nature.
This is my favorite review of the book and movie! Something I’ve never liked though, especially as a trans person, is how everyone insists on calling him Chris instead of Alex. A name you give yourself is just as legitimate, if not more so, than one your parents gave you- especially when the name is deep and meaning to you and you don’t like your parents. This holds true no matter how silly the name might sound to other people. So it bothered me when reading the book and watching reviews that people brush away the fact that he changed his name.
I totally agree with you, but what I understood from the end of the movie is that one of his final messages is signed with "Christopher McCandless" (the message that he left in the bus, saying that he has lived a good life and may God bless all).
“Huck Finn speaks of and for and as his place, the gathering place of the continent’s inland waters. His is a voice governed always by the need to flow, to move outward. It is arguable, I think, that our country’s culture is still suspended as if at the end of Huckleberry Finn assuming that its only choices are either a deadly “civilization” of piety and violence or an escape into some ‘territory’ where we may remain free of adulthood and community obligation. We want to be free; we want to have rights; we want to have power; we do not yet want much to do with responsibility.” ---Wendell Berry from the essay “Writer and Region”
escapism is not the issue here. the issue is incompetence. if you want to pursue something make sure you are prepared as much as possible to pursue it. escapism is fine. some people find that they are more content living alone because thats how they are built and know how to live alone. unfortunately he was incompetent. he wanted to do ssomething and wasnt prepared for it. also the idea that a vegan diet killed him is kinda hillarious. as dr. chaffee says "plants are trying to kill you"
Calling it incompetence is a cheapshot at Chris. He deliberately went in without a map to increase the challenge. Ridicule it if you want but he was a smart kid that almost made it out.
@@bjarczyk to increase the challenge---- literally the definition of incompetence. competent people dont just raise the challenge to unreasonable life threatening lengths
Even as a vegetarian I understand that humans removed must eat the flesh of the land that exists as a circle of life. Now 90% of our natural world doesn't have to exist like this and yet they do. There is a generic idea that plants are harmless but if you have ever ate shrooms you'd know that the effect on you cannot be ignored. Plants shall survive just as we do but in a silent way.
@@jamesortega8681if you read the book you’ll learn his death was more of a fluke than being ill prepared. He was poisoned by what some think is a fungus on a potato root and died days later. He was actually killing game and doing decently well before that. How bout you read the book and then comment on the story.
@@connorbullock1669 do u need to read the book to tell the man wasnt prepared? if you prepare and cook plants properly youd probably kill the toxins in it fungus included. if it wasnt his fault then most of the people who live in the wilderness would die of food poisoning but the reailty is those who are well trained and prepared likely wont die the way he did
To me was a depressed, leaving behind many things and man trying to scape from home traumas and constantly avoiding when he is been asked about his family or going back, refusing to forgive his parents mistakes and moving on in life. 😢
In one place of the movie, it says that happiness is in helping others, but this fool could not even help his parents, and in the end, with the dream of reaching the truth of life, he died like a stray dog . I just regret why I wasted my time watching this crap movie
“The other kind of freedom is the freedom to take care of ourselves and of each other, the freedom of affluence opposes and contradicts the freedom of community life.” Wendell Berry is spitting facts.
I was blown away by this film. That slab city community looked like such a lovely place to be, I really envisage myself somewhere like that - and yet here I am stuck in London typing this out on my iPhone.
Man, I just want to escape and live a simple life in a village chopping wood or something. I hate this city. Please, help me and tell me if there is any real way to get to this dream of mine.
And the road always leads west
I visited London once in the spring of 1988 , a whole new generation has grown up there that chooses to colonize and never assimilate , it's not England anymore, it's dangerous and sad , where is there any proof or actual evidence that diversity is a good idea ? Stay strong .
Thanks for bringing Wendell Berry and Huck Finn into this conversation. That quote about wanting rights, power and freedom without responsibility cuts to the heart. I find the realities of adulthood to be very hard. Yet I also know that the realities of adulthood, if done well, can change the lives of other people.
So glad it resonated. Thanks for the encouragement!
Your last sentences are inshahalla so powerful
There is a big chunk that remained untold about C. McCandless. His sister wrote a book, "The Wild Truth', where she talks about the abuse she and his sister suffered. He wasn't on some existential journey. He was running away from his pain. There is one part in "The Wild Truth", where one of C McCandless's road friends erupts in a violent drunken rage, mirroring the violence of his father. That moment highlights the tragedy of that pain we as men hide from
A broken family and, on top of that, no realisation from his parents led a young man to look for happiness outside. Eventually, he found happiness in the form of nature but wasn't prepared to keep it long. On his way, he did find good connections, but maybe he needed more time to be ready to have them as he couldn't have a genuine connection with his family, especially his parents. He didn't plan to die.
He wanted to live but needed to take proper precautions, which he didn't. And it ultimately led to his demise. However, people claim he wasn't sad about dying, but I believe he must have felt sad, yet he was content because he did what he wanted to do, and that's where that last not come when he wished everyone well.
He said, "Happiness is only real when shared." Through this quote, I realise that he finally realised the human connection we need to live in this world at the end of his life. A genuine connection, actually.
My only complaint from Chris would be his respect for his sister, as he never had a good connection with his parents, but his sister didn't deserve those years when she was waiting for him.
We can learn from his life, and I wish everyone reading the comments would learn from his life.
Indeed❤...but what's the conclusion??
@@msdhoni7.is.truelub What conclusion can be drawn if not learning from his mistakes.
Beautiful. This resonates so much with Gabor Mate's the myth of normal: how could a traumatized Chris not need to escape the toxicity of his former life? He sought it in books of great authors who embodied authenticity at any cost (Tolstoy, London, Pasternak), and in the wild that they admired. But the denial of community may the deepest wound, the true reason for his escape.
It is truly sad he did not make it back to live what Tolstoy called family happiness. Yet his story, his words remain as a powerful message to us all, that it resonates with so many shows how much we all need community and communion with nature to heal our wounds.
Amen!! :)
Corrupt shallow society vs found family or the family we choose. This is within all of us. People spend their lives earning money and collecting things to fit in or be admired, but really we all have a drive to belong. Even if it feels like we belong outside, it's simply asking to be found and to be seen.
Such a nice explanation of movie... Pls upload more of these videos
We are so used to urban life yet we romanticize freedom that comes with being a recluse and living a life that is free from the shackles of society. It would take immense courage and spirit to not follow the norms and to unlearn what I have learned. Fewer choices might bring more happiness than the limitless options available to our generation on a platter.
Inside of me there is a something
That wants to say 'we'. But this little thing got threatend and is now marked for ever. No matter what will come... the way is built
Years after Twain published "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn," it seems Twain may have had second thoughts on the ultimate outcome of heading out to the Territory. He wrote in his notebook: "Huck comes back, 60 years old, from nobody knows where-& crazy. Thinks he is a boy, & (seeks) scans always every face for Tom & Becky &c.”
Interesting!
one of the best that i have ever watched ,seen,felt
Amazing video and amazing analysis man! You made me appreciate the book/movie even more and made me see things in a different way! Great implementation of Huck Finn as well!
Thanks so much for the encouragement!
Thank you for making this video! I really like your analysis and all the the literature you cited. This movie gave me a lot to think about.
So much love and so much thank you for your work and this video !!!!! ❤❤❤❤
As always, wonderful work man!
Thanks for making me understand this better
Where has this channel been all my life?
😄Welcome! Feel free to pass it along!
On RUclips. Its a new thing.
You are doing good work brother. Keep it up.
Thanks for the video
Happiness only real when shared ❤
The same could be said about sexiness.
Amazing analysis! Thanks:)
Thanks a lot!
Well described 👏
Escapism vs community is a false dichotomy and misunderstanding of what Chris’ intention was. He wasn’t escaping but rather running towards an explicit goal. He also had already planned to leave Alaska by the fall. He was a smart kid that almost made it out, and intentionally didn’t take a map to increase the challenge.
"A deadly civilization of piety and violence" - Huck Finn
There seems to be a community of people that like to put Chris down, choosing to insult rather than understand. An example follows...no elaboration...no enlightenment...just insult.
(newest first)
I want to do something like what Chris did, but only for a year. And I want to bring someone with me.
Really great. Thank you
Amazing analysis..😍
Thanks
Perhaps: jealousy, love, bitterness, understanding, greed, progress, ego, compassion, deceit, openness are characteristics each driving all to greater or lesser degrees. Many achieve lower on those scales than others, few choose to shed ego to the benefit of the community. Mutually beneficial communities are scorned by the dominant and flawed Scientism of people like Dawkins/Plomin. Family should but the programmes of culture, state, and social media pull in different directions. We have to be better not under the self-serving laws of a self-serving state but with how we perceive and understand the motivations of others and how they fit with ours. Singing and dancing, of course, hugging and loving 😻 so long as it's not a device for more fields of corn/fructose and vasoconstriction 😂
Do you think that Wordsworth acknowledges more this sense of community and being useful to each other in comparison with the transcendentalists? I make this question because I was reading some poems by Wordsworth, and I had this impression.
Amazing analysis!!
That's a good point! Thanks!! :)
Chris McCandless was a fool. Romantic notions of him as some kind of hero is like trying to convince people that a pile of dog shit is a bowl of chocolate pudding. Whoever discovered his body in that bus found a horrific pile of rotting flesh, not some young heroic who gently passed into the arms of Nature.
This is my favorite review of the book and movie! Something I’ve never liked though, especially as a trans person, is how everyone insists on calling him Chris instead of Alex. A name you give yourself is just as legitimate, if not more so, than one your parents gave you- especially when the name is deep and meaning to you and you don’t like your parents. This holds true no matter how silly the name might sound to other people. So it bothered me when reading the book and watching reviews that people brush away the fact that he changed his name.
I totally agree with you, but what I understood from the end of the movie is that one of his final messages is signed with "Christopher McCandless" (the message that he left in the bus, saying that he has lived a good life and may God bless all).
Pay attention. Nearhis death he signed a note about calling each thing by its right name with the name Christopher McCandless.
"Trans" 😂😂😂
Show me something beautiful in the wild and I’ll show you something that will kill you for the slightest in-attention.
I cannot relate to this young man at all. Youthful exuberance fueled by ignorance.
Where did you get adolescents from? . Chris was a biological grown man. Not to mention puberty ends around 15 or 16
“Huck Finn speaks of and for and as his place, the gathering place of the continent’s inland waters. His is a voice governed always by the need to flow, to move outward. It is arguable, I think, that our country’s culture is still suspended as if at the end of Huckleberry Finn assuming that its only choices are either a deadly “civilization” of piety and violence or an escape into some ‘territory’ where we may remain free of adulthood and community obligation. We want to be free; we want to have rights; we want to have power; we do not yet want much to do with responsibility.” ---Wendell Berry from the essay “Writer and Region”
I wouldn't necessarily agree
escapism is not the issue here. the issue is incompetence. if you want to pursue something make sure you are prepared as much as possible to pursue it. escapism is fine. some people find that they are more content living alone because thats how they are built and know how to live alone. unfortunately he was incompetent. he wanted to do ssomething and wasnt prepared for it. also the idea that a vegan diet killed him is kinda hillarious. as dr. chaffee says "plants are trying to kill you"
Calling it incompetence is a cheapshot at Chris. He deliberately went in without a map to increase the challenge. Ridicule it if you want but he was a smart kid that almost made it out.
@@bjarczyk to increase the challenge---- literally the definition of incompetence. competent people dont just raise the challenge to unreasonable life threatening lengths
Even as a vegetarian I understand that humans removed must eat the flesh of the land that exists as a circle of life. Now 90% of our natural world doesn't have to exist like this and yet they do. There is a generic idea that plants are harmless but if you have ever ate shrooms you'd know that the effect on you cannot be ignored. Plants shall survive just as we do but in a silent way.
@@jamesortega8681if you read the book you’ll learn his death was more of a fluke than being ill prepared. He was poisoned by what some think is a fungus on a potato root and died days later. He was actually killing game and doing decently well before that. How bout you read the book and then comment on the story.
@@connorbullock1669 do u need to read the book to tell the man wasnt prepared? if you prepare and cook plants properly youd probably kill the toxins in it fungus included. if it wasnt his fault then most of the people who live in the wilderness would die of food poisoning but the reailty is those who are well trained and prepared likely wont die the way he did
Often these stories into the wild nd other look like essays from depressed man.
To me was a depressed, leaving behind many things and man trying to scape from home traumas and constantly avoiding when he is been asked about his family or going back, refusing to forgive his parents mistakes and moving on in life. 😢
McCandless had 300 dollars in his wallet when he passed.
It's to bad, the 7-11 down the street was closed.
He could have been spared by just one slurpee! Ahhhh!
I don't agree with you.
This is a false false dichotomy, there are lessons to be learned from both choices.
In one place of the movie, it says that happiness is in helping others, but this fool could not even help his parents, and in the end, with the dream of reaching the truth of life, he died like a stray dog . I just regret why I wasted my time watching this crap movie
People will ne forced to go Mcandless once the grid goes down.
Stay away from the wild potatoe seeds folks.
you're are shallow to even bring up this as a dichotomy. Read more books, American.
What??
@@-k7228Excellent question...no response
@@richardstever3242Well I guess he was trying to say that escapism can be done in community which I would agree on.
@@henrionlyfemmes8430 i think he is saying that he is smart, but I don't see any evidence.