I think aesthetically these are the best looking Evercade consoles. I don't see why they would both come with the same bundled cart though. Anyone buying the pair would have a spare cart
Am I the only one that noticed that they are following the PC Engine colour schemes? The first one was white with red accents this one is black with light blue accents, exactly like the different iterations of the Pc Engine.
@@DioBrando-qr6ye - I wonder why that would be...the best deal for people who are starting now is to get the VS-R for multiplayer and a Super Pocket for portability.
As a relative newcomer to the Evercade scene (got both my VS and EXP in December) I'm kinda glad these consoles aren't any more powerful. Would have been pretty annoying to feel the need to upgrade so soon.
@@CrazyBurger Yeah, it is more like the different colours on the Gameboy and also the PSX did lose Connectors on the backside with newer Models, also the Gamecube and Wii.
Fixing the OG EXP issues (Battery Life, Light Bleed, Sound) will be enough reason for me to pick up the EXP-R. The price drop is very welcome but I'll give the VS-R a pass as there's really no benefit to upgrading from the OG VS. The new colour accents remind of the Taito Super Pocket which is no bad thing :-) Keep up the awesome work!
Sadly, this was exactly what I was expecting! That said, the November hardware still intrigues me. I have a feeling it could "Pro' hardware and these will be the "budget" hardware.
Cost reducing. Quote from their homepage: "We’re delighted to announce a refresh of the Evercade line of retro gaming consoles that not only provides a simpler and more accessible way to get into Evercade and its physical cartridge ecosystem but also brings the price of the products down to under £100/$100."
If they addressed the battery issues the exp had, then great. My replacement unit works great, but it would still be nice to have the option to replace it without feeling like it’s a dice roll.
Just a heads up for anyone looking for an OG EXP. Game here in the UK have just dropped the price to £99! With limited stock you'll need to be quick. I was going to wait for the EXP-R but for the same price and you get the included Capcom games and HDMI Out I thought it's time to jump in. Just reserved mine at my local store and should hopefully be picking up later today :-) Keep up the awesome work CB!
Eventually decided to pre-order the VS-R Tomb Raider bundle as I've used my OG VS to build a DIY "Jaycade" Alpha Bartop. I was probably going to pick up the TR Collection anyway and the new VS-R controller looks pretty cool. That means that the VS-R console is only really costing me £45. My DIY project has went better than I'd hoped and I've even added a Nintendo Switch Dock to be able to play the Capcom Arcade Stadium games that will be included with the new Alpha Barcades :-) Keep up the awesome work!
Brand new owner of EXP, I would have been annoyed if there was any other massive differences. I'm still happy with mine and I may get the TATE Grip. Some new game releases would be welcome in a retro style as well as some SEGA game bundles which would be amazing
IMO a cost reduced model was needed. The regular white EXP handheld is 200$CAD. It is a bit much to ask to play retro games. I know that Blaze targets the collectors... The retro handheld market is very crowded.
My bet is that the new hardware announcements in Nov2024 are updated Super Pockets. Maybe without any built-in games or different publisher collections.
I never got the original handheld so might get this redesign. I prefer the grey black on the consoles now but I’m not getting another vs. No need to. Definitely want more games instead of hardware though.
Looks like a mild Line-refresh to me, with very little changed. I really dig the charcoal & turquoise colored VS-R either way. I want one just for that.
I like the new prices for people who don't already own the older models...I was tempted to buy a spare VS to keep one hacked and one with the stock firmware, maybe I'll get one of these once they're out.
Well I've just gotten a Super Pocket last week to see what I thought of the Evercade system, and I love it, so as the sucker I am, I've preordered the VS-R with the Tomb Raider cartridge included... what sealed the deal for me was, I mean, black and teal, totally Hatsune Miku, and matching my Taito Super Pocket!!
I'm still waiting on more arcade and console games we really want to see. A capcom collection, konami, namco, sega, and others. Konami would be great simply because of turbo grafx 16 games.
Same for me. Paid $115 for a brand new VS with two controllers and two cartridges last Fall. So this new “reduced price” doesn’t seem that reduced to me.
I think these have little to offer an existing Evercader, the primary reason for the EXP would appear to be the expiration of the Capcom licence. As CB mentioned, there probably have been some minor internal tweaks along with the removal of the HDMI on the EXP-R and I would guess those tweaks have also been applied to the VS-R which have maybe contributed to reducing the price. This smaller price is great for new users though and I would guess it is another push to expand the user base so they can keep going after the big licensees like SEGA, which is obviously great news for all users (Space Harrier please). The November hardware may well be a full on refresh, perhaps with a faster SoC and more RAM so the platforms that can be emulated can be expanded to include machines past the PS1. just my two penneths worth
I have the original Evercade, the VS, and one of my friends bought me the EXP, this past Christmas. While I don't see a reason to buy these cheaper versions, I think that these two systems will be fine for what they are. Still kinda of a head scratcher, though.
It's been done to reduced manufacturing costs and make the retail price cheaper to try and appeal to people thinking of buying into Evercade. They certainly aren't meant for people already owning them.
@SteveODonnell Oh, I'm aware. Still, it makes me wonder if there will be a time when they actually upgrade the hardware. I'm not hoping for that anytime soon, but still.
@nsgames24 I'm not sure they would upgrade the SOC as that may then lead to newer carts maybe not working on older hardware. I think their plan is keeping it simple so all carts still work on all hardware.
A bit underwhelming. This seems like a midlife update to reduce costs. No mention of any changes or improvements for the EXP, though personally ive never had an issue with both mine. The "R" suffix is poorly chosen, as i would expect this to denote a premium version. Depending on what they are bundled with i might pick up thr VS-R, as I don't currently own a VS.
i hate to always be a debbie downer but no hardware changes is a huge mistake from Blaze. EXP battery desperately needs to be improved. I'm sure the super pocket runs games faster/better than EXP and VS
Was waiting for this video, thank you. Well this was all disappointing. Still holding out. I'm hoping for a new EXP with beefier specs and fixes to the current screen, battery life and sound.
New Evercade consoles are coming out and they still don't have analog sticks for the controls. They should know that it is important that the controllers have analog sticks, especially for 3D games.
No it's just a cheaper to make and price reduced model, removing 1 feature and the Capcom games. Try to appeal to more people. Not for existing owners to buy. If there was improved specs and a new screen, they would already have mentioned that, plus it would likely cost more if that was the case.
The upcoming EXP-R is definitely a reduced price, but the VS-R is actually *MORE EXPENSIVE* than what the standard white VS sells for now! I live in Sweden (where everything is super expensive) yet found numerous gaming stores in Stockholm selling the VS “Premium Pack” (with two controllers and two cartridges) for $99. And yes, these are new and sealed units. So the VS-R with only one controller and one cartridge for $99 is actually a really bad deal. Unless you absolutely hate the white color scheme of the original VS (and don’t want a second controller and second cartridge) then the VS-R is a price gouge.
To get into the important issue… I hate the color scheme. Obviously others disagree, but this isn’t doing it for me. What would get me excited would be themed special editions. If Tomb Raider is the bundled cart, give me some Tomb Raider theme on the hardware. Is that too much to ask?
VS = Versus, i.e. playing together. On the topic, I guess this is part EoL for the Capcom license, part more cost effective produktion, e.g. circuit board or case and part to shine new spotlight on the products for the masses.
Well, with no option to hook the handheld up to your TV they lost my sale. I'll just be buying a Steamdeck for my PC games AND to emulate all the games they offer and more. So stupid that you have to buy 2 different units so you can game on your PC and handheld. I travel and would like the ability to hook the handheld up to the TV in the hotel or BNB I stay in.
Glad I have a working regular EXP so I can still have the HDMI out. This is the reason I purchased an external monitor not long ago. If future models won't have that, not sure how I'm gonna feel going forward. My opinion on why this change is a simple one. The holidays are over and it's finally around that time for manufacturing more units again (would explain why VS-R). The Capcom thing makes much more sense if that's all this is. With it being that time again, probably using this as an excuse to rebrand and cut down costs instead of just making more of the exact same. Along with no HDMI out, likely using cheaper parts too so probably best to hold off on purchasing until people spend time with the new consoles. Doubt we even will get a 4000ma battery because why? Cutting costs. IMO it's R for rubbish. I'm not happy at all.
These new color variants are pointless in my opinion. But, I did the firmware update today on my VS and I really like the new “cartridge library” feature. Makes it a lot easier to see what we have and on which cart.
Their best product is still the original Evercade by a country mile, the EXP was a bit of a disappointment all they needed to do was upgrade the screen of the original and it would have been perfect, but they decided to add tate mode which was really nothing but a gimmick, the sound is worse than the original, the battery life is dreadful and even the buttons are a little bit smaller. I was never really interested in the VS, for me the biggest draw of the Evercade was always it's portability.. These new products just seem to be cost reduced versions of the previous machines, I can't see anything to get excited about here, I really feel like Blaze have been headed in the wrong direction for quite a while now, flooding the market with increasingly poor products.
@@CrazyBurger do you know what? If the board has been revised then I would expect a switch to USB-C. A reduced manufacturing process, or a switch to a different SOC would facilitate a PCB redesign.
@@CrazyBurger I really struggle with getting my hands comfortable with the EXP in that position. It’s too narrow. And half the time I’m covering up the speaker as well. I love my shoot ‘em ups too so will be ideal.
I've got a lot of attacks on the reveal vid on here for being negative, not sure if Blaze hire stooges to update, have bits or just utter die hards who won't hear a bad word. I've bought every console and game so far, includa few limited edition consol and games, so I do like Blaze and the evercade in general, but don't like it when I'm.not allowed an opinion. So glad to see I'm not alone in my opinion of being disheartened with this reveal
Feel free to comment either way, all thoughts are welcome. If you don't like the latest news that's totally fine. I'm on the fence a bit. Not quite what I was expecting but Blaze obviously have their reasons for doing these new hardware devices.
Didn’t they begin the intro trailer with a bunch of meanings for the -R? I feel like Evercade can’t win here… had this been new hardware people would be mad, as seen with countless comments already even though these aren’t actually new, but the other half is mad that these aren’t actually new. I think these absolutely make sense from a business perspective… most of us are already Evercade fans or we wouldn’t be creating, watching, or commenting, but I feel these are targeted at widening their user base without alienating their existing fans, and in that I think they succeed. An “on the fence” consumer can now get a good looking pair of matching Evercade products at a decent price… while I personally don’t mind the OG VS, I’m admittedly glad I have the Founders Edition as the OG does have a toy look about it and until now it was the only retail unit widely available. It also makes a nice retro gift set, someone can pick up both -R versions and a few cartridges for a loved one and it’s immediately a nice intro into the Ecosystem that will have a cohesive visual feel, again, something that wasn’t easily feasible at general retail prior to the -R revisions.
Im done with Blaze, too many new things but none of my interest. No dipswitches, no new and real firmware with possibility of reflash faulty carts... no new carts of arcade gems (Taito, SNK, Konami, SEGA, Midway...) etc, etc, etc... Sorry but im done. Isnt only those "new" consoles, are the leaks of the "gigacarts" (tomb raider...bah).
Honestly, I think it’s good news! A new edition with the same specs indicates that Blaze still believes in producing games for the systems we own. I was scared that these would be beefed-up pro-models that would slowly make current Evercades obsolete. This is a sign that Blaze intends to produce carts for our consoles at least for these next years. We could have ended up with the company jumping ship to Super Pockets, but this indicates that their visions for Evercade stays firm.
Yeah I think Evercade will be around for a few more years. They've got a good thing going. Despite the issues that also plaque them. If they can minimise issues they'll be fine.
These aren't for existing owners, they're designed to snare would- be buyers who may have been on the fence. I don't see the point in the VS-R though - it seems pretty much identical to the original VS. Blaze also have missed a trick by not moving over to USB-C for the VS-R. Since there's no meaningful changes such as better battery, upgraded speakers for the EXP, there's absolutely no reason to buy one. I'll stick with my black EXP and black VS.
I've been thinking about getting a VS and this one looks slightly nicer (and is theoretically cheaper), so I might get this new model. But yeah, maybe I'll wait and see what this November hardware is, before I buy a VS-R.
the r for me stands for a replacement battery ill get the expr just to swop the battery in my exp and if there is a good pack in game it lessons the throw away price also is it just me or is the colour a lot like the taito super pocket could that be the pack in cart.and there is also hardware in november could that be the capcom and a blue console?
Apart from looking visually appealing compared to the original designs. I really don't see the point of these sudden hardware revisions. Despite going for a full cartridge set I'm not going to be one of those collectors buying every hardware revision. I don't see the point of that. The original handheld. The VS. The EXP and the Taito super pocket is more than enough for me.
If there was any major changes they would have mentioned whats changed. I think its purely a cost reduction mission and making the consoles cheaper and more tempting for people to get into Evercade. They clearly arent aimed at those with both consoles alresdy. Ill pick up the VS-R as i didnt grt one yet.
They should sort the issues out first, bought my original one and the battery was faulty but not being despondent I returned it for a replacement only to find the second one crashed every five minutes so nah I'm done! Sort your hardware issues out first Evercade....
I won't buy a new console every 6 months. In addition, the new version of exp-r does not have a collection of Capcom games and no mini HDMI. Evercade what's going on?
The VS bundled with technos arcade which is EOL now, going off the color style I feel theyre gonna get Tomb Raider cause of her turquoise shirt lol. I think both are great for newcomers who were on the fence, cheaper options are always welcome and I wish other companies could take a hint to lower prices after many years.
This is a small point BUT... I love my EXP and I often hook it up to my big TV (when the wife's out) to play retro games on the big screen. But, it's a bit of a faff, the EXP is unbalanced as a TV controller and connecting to the TV with a massively long HDMI cable is annoying. SO teh idea of a VS sat in the media centre is appealing BUT the current VS is WHITE while all our other media gadget are BLACK! A minor point, but one that would give the wife an excuse to say that I didn't need it! So a BLACK VS would sink her reasoning! LOL
I'll have to keep my eyes open for someone clearing out the OG EXPs. I want the cart that's bundled with it so if I can find one for under £100 new I might snap it up and get the full package version. I like the new colour scheme better but white with the Capcom games for the same price is the way I'd rather go, I can always decorate it.
I'm happy with this. Getting Giga carts means there's no need to replace current hardware. A lower price for entry into the evercade will also bring in more people who were on the fence before.
But the current white VS with two controllers and two cartridges sells for $99. So this upcoming VS-R for that same price is actually a rip off since you get one less game and one less controller. Just sayin’.
I think these two, especially the handheld will have some small improvements, or “fixes” to their design. It is NOT an EXP 2 though! Not by a long shot! I think they are once again playing things cagey or cleverly. I don’t though which? Seems though they are aiming to shake things up! That EXP 2 better be PERFECT when or if it does ever arrive though! 🤔
It’s a bit meh - but the grips are nice addition and show blaze are open to further accessories. The exp refresh without capcom makes sense to remarket and reduce cost but no need for another vs console imo.
Thank God. We needed a new handheld design my EXP used to overheat and cut off from day one. Then it stop taking charges all together, so I threw that shit away. Hopefully this new handheld is actually better, because the EXP was GARBAGE
I have every handheld version and also the VS, but don't mind getting a new EXP-R especially bundled with a giga cart of all 3 first Tomb Raider games. And for cheaper price! Sign me up
I’d rather more new licenses and games. I am now more curious about the November hardware announcement. I can’t imagine they’d release this VS and EXP to bring in people at a lower price point only to release newer better ones a few months later?
The best news is this is not new upgraded hardware that would split the user base. It’s the same tech repackaged for new users that will benefit Blaze and new uesers financially I’m sure. This is a win as far as I’m concerned. As a footnote Blaze has said in a post that the EXP-R has a new battery life inline with modern expectations.
Was on the fence about the exp for a while now. But might just pick up the new model. Too bad for the Capcom games but probably the license has expired.
Well actually, they stated that it's the same battery but because it doesn't have the hdmi mini port chip it could extend the battery life and also due to this it runs cooler.
Not what I expected but super happy. I didn’t really want a big update so soon to the hardware, don’t want to have quite new stuff outdated so fast. This is sensible, and cheaper given inflation at the moment is impressive. Good for new people, and for existing people I’ll stick with my VS and EXP. Only an issue for completionists that want every SKU, but at least they are cheap for them I guess!
So long Evercade handheld as I only bought you for hdmi to get fast & responsive 720p gameplay, no other reason. This makes the original EXP's more valuable from a hdmi point of view and that's not including the Capcom games lol. 😉 The grey & black is nice in that original Atari Lynx way, the pale blue not so. Thanks for the low down as always Crazy, cheers!
The R is for red, because it is grey ;) VS is versus, because you can play against others. Exp is just short for experience, because you will have a better experience with it.
High profile publishers need to see a higher userbase it seems, Blaze is pushing for more users in order to appease the nearly convinced ones with the cheaper and more affordable hardware strategy.
Their licence with Capcom ended so more of a nessecity than anything else though. Being able to offer up the consoles at a cheaoer price point is great for new people though!
If you mean the Anne Summers bedroom toy attachment, your screwed if you don't like it. 😁 With any luck the inside that holds the EXP will have rubber foam to prevent scratching, more snug fit.
If both consoles come with the same cartridge, then that will suck for new collectors, as they will have a duplicate game. This announcement was pointless and the fact there are no arcade cartridges a year on from the last and the best games are bundled in hardware means I'm out and selling my Evercade collection.
As someone who loves their VS but has been eyeing the EXP, I'm stoked to have a cheaper option coming this year. The Capcom games bundled with the original EXP are a nice extra, but I really don't need another copy of mega man and SFII lol
They are aimed at people wanting to get into evercade. Making them clearly related vy having same colour scheme and also the new lower price. These are not aimed at existing customers unless you don't already own one or the other.
@@SteveODonnell Terrible argument. If someone wants to get into evercade, they buy an evercade. Simple. They don't need to Release another version of the same thing.
They're not new hardware per se, they're really just new variants of what's currently available. Bit like when Sega released the Master System II and the Megadrive II... remodelled with a few things removed, but essentially the same as their predecessors. Obviously if you collect all the hardware it's a bit of an issue, but not everyone does that. I'm happy with my original and EXP handhelds, even if I have some niggles with it! 😊
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I think aesthetically these are the best looking Evercade consoles. I don't see why they would both come with the same bundled cart though. Anyone buying the pair would have a spare cart
Yeah that's a good thought. Hopefully they sell without a cart as well...
@@CrazyBurger - Sounds like kind of a dumb decision to include the same cart with both, it'll make people less apt to buy both I think...
Am I the only one that noticed that they are following the PC Engine colour schemes? The first one was white with red accents this one is black with light blue accents, exactly like the different iterations of the Pc Engine.
@@JohnnyProctor9Maybe they are actively discouraging people from buying both versions.
@@DioBrando-qr6ye - I wonder why that would be...the best deal for people who are starting now is to get the VS-R for multiplayer and a Super Pocket for portability.
As a relative newcomer to the Evercade scene (got both my VS and EXP in December) I'm kinda glad these consoles aren't any more powerful. Would have been pretty annoying to feel the need to upgrade so soon.
Yeah, basically you don't need to buy these. It's not like an upgraded model. Merely modified slightly and different colour.
@@CrazyBurger Yeah, it is more like the different colours on the Gameboy and also the PSX did lose Connectors on the backside with newer Models, also the Gamecube and Wii.
@CrazyBurger I just pre ordered the VS-R Tomb raider edition. I really hope they don't bring out a superior console I will be disappointed.
@joepearson6644 No plans for that yet, long term definitely.
Fixing the OG EXP issues (Battery Life, Light Bleed, Sound) will be enough reason for me to pick up the EXP-R. The price drop is very welcome but I'll give the VS-R a pass as there's really no benefit to upgrading from the OG VS. The new colour accents remind of the Taito Super Pocket which is no bad thing :-) Keep up the awesome work!
Yeah I'm the same. Don't need another VS. Definitely want the EXP R though.
I wonder if they were planning Taito built in games and something fell through...
@@obsoleteworlds The thought had crossed my mind as well :-)
Sadly, this was exactly what I was expecting! That said, the November hardware still intrigues me. I have a feeling it could "Pro' hardware and these will be the "budget" hardware.
I wish that were true. My biggest issue is that they disappoint consistently…so won’t be holding my breath
Cost reducing.
Quote from their homepage: "We’re delighted to announce a refresh of the Evercade line of retro gaming consoles that not only provides a simpler and more accessible way to get into Evercade and its physical cartridge ecosystem but also brings the price of the products down to under £100/$100."
If they addressed the battery issues the exp had, then great. My replacement unit works great, but it would still be nice to have the option to replace it without feeling like it’s a dice roll.
Just a heads up for anyone looking for an OG EXP. Game here in the UK have just dropped the price to £99! With limited stock you'll need to be quick. I was going to wait for the EXP-R but for the same price and you get the included Capcom games and HDMI Out I thought it's time to jump in. Just reserved mine at my local store and should hopefully be picking up later today :-) Keep up the awesome work CB!
If they made a Tomb Raider Edition VS or EXP I'd buy it, otherwise I'm buying only cartridge bundles since I already have the hardware that I wanted.
What hardware do you have bud?
Eventually decided to pre-order the VS-R Tomb Raider bundle as I've used my OG VS to build a DIY "Jaycade" Alpha Bartop. I was probably going to pick up the TR Collection anyway and the new VS-R controller looks pretty cool. That means that the VS-R console is only really costing me £45. My DIY project has went better than I'd hoped and I've even added a Nintendo Switch Dock to be able to play the Capcom Arcade Stadium games that will be included with the new Alpha Barcades :-) Keep up the awesome work!
Brand new owner of EXP, I would have been annoyed if there was any other massive differences. I'm still happy with mine and I may get the TATE Grip. Some new game releases would be welcome in a retro style as well as some SEGA game bundles which would be amazing
Gladly especially for all the new owners, getting a EXP R isn't a must have. My EXP hasn't been great so I'll gladly upgrade.. so to speak.
IMO a cost reduced model was needed. The regular white EXP handheld is 200$CAD. It is a bit much to ask to play retro games. I know that Blaze targets the collectors... The retro handheld market is very crowded.
I thought they stated the VS was for verses since you can play with multiple players
My bet is that the new hardware announcements in Nov2024 are updated Super Pockets. Maybe without any built-in games or different publisher collections.
Seems like they have lowered the price to make way for new updated models in October.
It's possible..
I never got the original handheld so might get this redesign. I prefer the grey black on the consoles now but I’m not getting another vs. No need to.
Definitely want more games instead of hardware though.
Still hoping for a neogeo cartridge 😅
Looks like a mild Line-refresh to me, with very little changed. I really dig the charcoal & turquoise colored VS-R either way. I want one just for that.
I like the new prices for people who don't already own the older models...I was tempted to buy a spare VS to keep one hacked and one with the stock firmware, maybe I'll get one of these once they're out.
Well I've just gotten a Super Pocket last week to see what I thought of the Evercade system, and I love it, so as the sucker I am, I've preordered the VS-R with the Tomb Raider cartridge included... what sealed the deal for me was, I mean, black and teal, totally Hatsune Miku, and matching my Taito Super Pocket!!
I'm still waiting on more arcade and console games we really want to see. A capcom collection, konami, namco, sega, and others. Konami would be great simply because of turbo grafx 16 games.
Going to get the EXP-R as a replacement for my EXP that has a battery issue. Got the Capcom Super Pocket to bridge the time gap!👍
Yeah I'm doing the same. Exp battery isn't great at all.
Yeah and made the mistake of buying it from eBay so Evercade wouldn't replace it!!So EXP R looks like a good option.👍🏼
I only gave $99 for the original VS with two controllers in October 2023
I buy my new with two Controllers for 109 Euro
Same for me. Paid $115 for a brand new VS with two controllers and two cartridges last Fall. So this new “reduced price” doesn’t seem that reduced to me.
I think these have little to offer an existing Evercader, the primary reason for the EXP would appear to be the expiration of the Capcom licence. As CB mentioned, there probably have been some minor internal tweaks along with the removal of the HDMI on the EXP-R and I would guess those tweaks have also been applied to the VS-R which have maybe contributed to reducing the price. This smaller price is great for new users though and I would guess it is another push to expand the user base so they can keep going after the big licensees like SEGA, which is obviously great news for all users (Space Harrier please).
The November hardware may well be a full on refresh, perhaps with a faster SoC and more RAM so the platforms that can be emulated can be expanded to include machines past the PS1.
just my two penneths worth
I have the original Evercade, the VS, and one of my friends bought me the EXP, this past Christmas. While I don't see a reason to buy these cheaper versions, I think that these two systems will be fine for what they are. Still kinda of a head scratcher, though.
It's been done to reduced manufacturing costs and make the retail price cheaper to try and appeal to people thinking of buying into Evercade. They certainly aren't meant for people already owning them.
@SteveODonnell
Oh, I'm aware. Still, it makes me wonder if there will be a time when they actually upgrade the hardware.
I'm not hoping for that anytime soon, but still.
@nsgames24 I'm not sure they would upgrade the SOC as that may then lead to newer carts maybe not working on older hardware. I think their plan is keeping it simple so all carts still work on all hardware.
A bit underwhelming. This seems like a midlife update to reduce costs. No mention of any changes or improvements for the EXP, though personally ive never had an issue with both mine. The "R" suffix is poorly chosen, as i would expect this to denote a premium version. Depending on what they are bundled with i might pick up thr VS-R, as I don't currently own a VS.
i hate to always be a debbie downer but no hardware changes is a huge mistake from Blaze. EXP battery desperately needs to be improved. I'm sure the super pocket runs games faster/better than EXP and VS
There is a brief sentence 'optimised gaming on the go' , maybe that alludes to an improved battery ?
You’d think they would want to advertise something like that 🤣
Hopefully get more details soon. The battery is a must.
Was waiting for this video, thank you. Well this was all disappointing. Still holding out. I'm hoping for a new EXP with beefier specs and fixes to the current screen, battery life and sound.
It's got some modifications but it's not really like the huge upgrade I mightve hoped for.
I think the other 2 hardware releases are hypermegatech super pockets. Hopefully one, as you said is Sega, and the other one Konami.
blaze have said superpockets are not included on the roadmap
My problem with the Capcom one was it freeze up either playing a Capcom or cartridge
New Evercade consoles are coming out and they still don't have analog sticks for the controls. They should know that it is important that the controllers have analog sticks, especially for 3D games.
there arent almost any 3D games for Evercade, and the only ones are designed for D-Pad originally so no problem at all
Does the new exp console offer anything new over last yrs exp?
An oled screen would have been a day one buy for me
Not sure about the actual specs. Hopefully get more info in the coming days.
No it's just a cheaper to make and price reduced model, removing 1 feature and the Capcom games. Try to appeal to more people. Not for existing owners to buy. If there was improved specs and a new screen, they would already have mentioned that, plus it would likely cost more if that was the case.
The upcoming EXP-R is definitely a reduced price, but the VS-R is actually *MORE EXPENSIVE* than what the standard white VS sells for now! I live in Sweden (where everything is super expensive) yet found numerous gaming stores in Stockholm selling the VS “Premium Pack” (with two controllers and two cartridges) for $99. And yes, these are new and sealed units.
So the VS-R with only one controller and one cartridge for $99 is actually a really bad deal.
Unless you absolutely hate the white color scheme of the original VS (and don’t want a second controller and second cartridge) then the VS-R is a price gouge.
here in Spain the EXP costs around 200 from resellers, so not even official stock anymore, same with standard VS
I wanted an exp, should I wait for the EXP- R? Or is there any difference?
Honestly I'd wait. The EXP isn't perfect.
not sure on this but i have had huge issues with the power connection on the vs
How do you power the VS? Directly via the mains?
@@CrazyBurger yeah
@@SuperEarther that's interesting. Might be worth getting in touch with support@evercade.co.uk
@@CrazyBurger yeah i always get the idea the power connection never fits right :(
To get into the important issue… I hate the color scheme. Obviously others disagree, but this isn’t doing it for me. What would get me excited would be themed special editions. If Tomb Raider is the bundled cart, give me some Tomb Raider theme on the hardware. Is that too much to ask?
Of course the colour is definitely the most important thing about a console, it makes the games play better and the battery last longer. 🙄
Now that's an interesting thought. A Lara Croft Assets and all colour scheme.
Go faster stripes??
@@CrazyBurgerWith a pair of pink analogue nubbin controllers
i'm a bit disappointed with it but who am i kidding they know i'm gonna buy it, i wonder if the hidden games come with the new EXP?
VS = Versus, i.e. playing together.
On the topic, I guess this is part EoL for the Capcom license, part more cost effective produktion, e.g. circuit board or case and part to shine new spotlight on the products for the masses.
Yup, that was my understanding of VS as well
"optimised for gaming on the go" is an outrageous marketing reach. Literally just removed a feature!
Well, with no option to hook the handheld up to your TV they lost my sale. I'll just be buying a Steamdeck for my PC games AND to emulate all the games they offer and more. So stupid that you have to buy 2 different units so you can game on your PC and handheld. I travel and would like the ability to hook the handheld up to the TV in the hotel or BNB I stay in.
Glad I have a working regular EXP so I can still have the HDMI out. This is the reason I purchased an external monitor not long ago. If future models won't have that, not sure how I'm gonna feel going forward.
My opinion on why this change is a simple one. The holidays are over and it's finally around that time for manufacturing more units again (would explain why VS-R). The Capcom thing makes much more sense if that's all this is. With it being that time again, probably using this as an excuse to rebrand and cut down costs instead of just making more of the exact same. Along with no HDMI out, likely using cheaper parts too so probably best to hold off on purchasing until people spend time with the new consoles. Doubt we even will get a 4000ma battery because why? Cutting costs. IMO it's R for rubbish. I'm not happy at all.
These new color variants are pointless in my opinion. But, I did the firmware update today on my VS and I really like the new “cartridge library” feature. Makes it a lot easier to see what we have and on which cart.
I guess nobody wanted to do a deal with Evercade for built in games on these consoles then?
Mmm.. or they'll release this in November..
Their best product is still the original Evercade by a country mile, the EXP was a bit of a disappointment all they needed to do was upgrade the screen of the original and it would have been perfect, but they decided to add tate mode which was really nothing but a gimmick, the sound is worse than the original, the battery life is dreadful and even the buttons are a little bit smaller.
I was never really interested in the VS, for me the biggest draw of the Evercade was always it's portability..
These new products just seem to be cost reduced versions of the previous machines, I can't see anything to get excited about here, I really feel like Blaze have been headed in the wrong direction for quite a while now, flooding the market with increasingly poor products.
Just realised the VS-R is still using Micro USB!!!! Clearly using the same board, so probably no hardware changes at all.
There are some internal changes
@@CrazyBurger do you know what? If the board has been revised then I would expect a switch to USB-C. A reduced manufacturing process, or a switch to a different SOC would facilitate a PCB redesign.
Hopefully we'll get some updates on the actual specs soon. There must be differences. It's not just another coloured shell.
I don’t need more consoles but I’ll take the TATE grip!
Lol i realised i said it both ways in the vid.. TATE and Tahtay.. far too easy to mess up.
@@CrazyBurger I’d never get it right. You’re doing fine!
@@SteveNorman those grips do make a difference. A bit cumbersome but it takes the weight off your wrists. So you can play longer.
@@CrazyBurger I really struggle with getting my hands comfortable with the EXP in that position. It’s too narrow. And half the time I’m covering up the speaker as well. I love my shoot ‘em ups too so will be ideal.
There is a rumoured resident evil 123 bundle
Rumoured where? That seems massively unlikely.
I've got a lot of attacks on the reveal vid on here for being negative, not sure if Blaze hire stooges to update, have bits or just utter die hards who won't hear a bad word.
I've bought every console and game so far, includa few limited edition consol and games, so I do like Blaze and the evercade in general, but don't like it when I'm.not allowed an opinion.
So glad to see I'm not alone in my opinion of being disheartened with this reveal
Feel free to comment either way, all thoughts are welcome. If you don't like the latest news that's totally fine. I'm on the fence a bit. Not quite what I was expecting but Blaze obviously have their reasons for doing these new hardware devices.
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Great evercade content 🏆
Didn’t they begin the intro trailer with a bunch of meanings for the -R?
I feel like Evercade can’t win here… had this been new hardware people would be mad, as seen with countless comments already even though these aren’t actually new, but the other half is mad that these aren’t actually new.
I think these absolutely make sense from a business perspective… most of us are already Evercade fans or we wouldn’t be creating, watching, or commenting, but I feel these are targeted at widening their user base without alienating their existing fans, and in that I think they succeed.
An “on the fence” consumer can now get a good looking pair of matching Evercade products at a decent price… while I personally don’t mind the OG VS, I’m admittedly glad I have the Founders Edition as the OG does have a toy look about it and until now it was the only retail unit widely available.
It also makes a nice retro gift set, someone can pick up both -R versions and a few cartridges for a loved one and it’s immediately a nice intro into the Ecosystem that will have a cohesive visual feel, again, something that wasn’t easily feasible at general retail prior to the -R revisions.
the R stands fer piracy me boy
Im pretty much leaving the platform for something else I'm kinda burnt out
Considering that namco collections won't work for this system, it is huge downgrade! Not interested!
They don't work on the current VS either though? Handhelds are fine.
@@CrazyBurger I just checked why they don't work for VS, they were only licensed for handheld use
I'm planning to get an Evercade. I'll wait until the Evercade VS-R comes out
@@mtndewsoldier8221 Nice. Better get hunting down those carts!
Why people buy this console it rubbish my mum esp ex last year it never work it never turn off console got very hot 🔥
VERY DISAPPOINTING what a joke.
Im done with Blaze, too many new things but none of my interest. No dipswitches, no new and real firmware with possibility of reflash faulty carts... no new carts of arcade gems (Taito, SNK, Konami, SEGA, Midway...) etc, etc, etc...
Sorry but im done. Isnt only those "new" consoles, are the leaks of the "gigacarts" (tomb raider...bah).
No analog sticks thats a disappointment 😢
Honestly, I think it’s good news! A new edition with the same specs indicates that Blaze still believes in producing games for the systems we own.
I was scared that these would be beefed-up pro-models that would slowly make current Evercades obsolete. This is a sign that Blaze intends to produce carts for our consoles at least for these next years.
We could have ended up with the company jumping ship to Super Pockets, but this indicates that their visions for Evercade stays firm.
Yeah I think Evercade will be around for a few more years. They've got a good thing going. Despite the issues that also plaque them. If they can minimise issues they'll be fine.
They need to release twin stick versions of both consoles to allow more Giga Cart releases 🤷🏻♂️
These aren't for existing owners, they're designed to snare would- be buyers who may have been on the fence. I don't see the point in the VS-R though - it seems pretty much identical to the original VS. Blaze also have missed a trick by not moving over to USB-C for the VS-R.
Since there's no meaningful changes such as better battery, upgraded speakers for the EXP, there's absolutely no reason to buy one.
I'll stick with my black EXP and black VS.
I've been thinking about getting a VS and this one looks slightly nicer (and is theoretically cheaper), so I might get this new model. But yeah, maybe I'll wait and see what this November hardware is, before I buy a VS-R.
the r for me stands for a replacement battery ill get the expr just to swop the battery in my exp and if there is a good pack in game it lessons the throw away price also is it just me or is the colour a lot like the taito super pocket could that be the pack in cart.and there is also hardware in november could that be the capcom and a blue console?
Apart from looking visually appealing compared to the original designs. I really don't see the point of these sudden hardware revisions. Despite going for a full cartridge set I'm not going to be one of those collectors buying every hardware revision. I don't see the point of that. The original handheld. The VS. The EXP and the Taito super pocket is more than enough for me.
If there was any major changes they would have mentioned whats changed. I think its purely a cost reduction mission and making the consoles cheaper and more tempting for people to get into Evercade. They clearly arent aimed at those with both consoles alresdy. Ill pick up the VS-R as i didnt grt one yet.
While the new color scheme looks nice, I like how the game cartridges match the white shell of the previous handhelds.
They should sort the issues out first, bought my original one and the battery was faulty but not being despondent I returned it for a replacement only to find the second one crashed every five minutes so nah I'm done! Sort your hardware issues out first Evercade....
I won't buy a new console every 6 months. In addition, the new version of exp-r does not have a collection of Capcom games and no mini HDMI. Evercade what's going on?
nope. no interest in either one. my original evercade handheld and my original VS both work fine.
The VS bundled with technos arcade which is EOL now, going off the color style I feel theyre gonna get Tomb Raider cause of her turquoise shirt lol. I think both are great for newcomers who were on the fence, cheaper options are always welcome and I wish other companies could take a hint to lower prices after many years.
This is a small point BUT... I love my EXP and I often hook it up to my big TV (when the wife's out) to play retro games on the big screen. But, it's a bit of a faff, the EXP is unbalanced as a TV controller and connecting to the TV with a massively long HDMI cable is annoying. SO teh idea of a VS sat in the media centre is appealing BUT the current VS is WHITE while all our other media gadget are BLACK! A minor point, but one that would give the wife an excuse to say that I didn't need it! So a BLACK VS would sink her reasoning! LOL
Lol easy decision now
I'll have to keep my eyes open for someone clearing out the OG EXPs. I want the cart that's bundled with it so if I can find one for under £100 new I might snap it up and get the full package version. I like the new colour scheme better but white with the Capcom games for the same price is the way I'd rather go, I can always decorate it.
I think the 2 hardware options in November are super pockets. Not VS or EXP.
No apparently super pockets are separate to this.
I'm happy with this. Getting Giga carts means there's no need to replace current hardware. A lower price for entry into the evercade will also bring in more people who were on the fence before.
Need to see some confirmation on battery life and audio
Oh yeah, agree on that. The jury is out on that one.
We need new vs2 but not anmew from the same, i rhink.
I'm getting the VS-R cause I don't have one and $99 is a good price.
But the current white VS with two controllers and two cartridges sells for $99. So this upcoming VS-R for that same price is actually a rip off since you get one less game and one less controller. Just sayin’.
@@OriginalGrasshopper in Spain the current VS is around 200 euros from resellers not even official stock anymore, not everything is United States
I will probably hold off until my existing Evercade systems break down.
do they usually break or are known to break?
@@kairi8882 I don't know. I noticed my Evercade EXP may be a bit faulty from the previous few times I've used it.
I think these two, especially the handheld will have some small improvements, or “fixes” to their design. It is NOT an EXP 2 though! Not by a long shot! I think they are once again playing things cagey or cleverly. I don’t though which? Seems though they are aiming to shake things up! That EXP 2 better be PERFECT when or if it does ever arrive though! 🤔
It’s a bit meh - but the grips are nice addition and show blaze are open to further accessories. The exp refresh without capcom makes sense to remarket and reduce cost but no need for another vs console imo.
Thank God. We needed a new handheld design my EXP used to overheat and cut off from day one. Then it stop taking charges all together, so I threw that shit away. Hopefully this new handheld is actually better, because the EXP was GARBAGE
The VS-R will come with a HDMI cable. About bloody time.
So... Apparently they made a mistake and will not include a HDMI cable with the console. FFS!
I have every handheld version and also the VS, but don't mind getting a new EXP-R especially bundled with a giga cart of all 3 first Tomb Raider games. And for cheaper price! Sign me up
I’d rather more new licenses and games. I am now more curious about the November hardware announcement. I can’t imagine they’d release this VS and EXP to bring in people at a lower price point only to release newer better ones a few months later?
for a hundred dollars I will get the exp and some classic carts like C64 etc that are harder to emulate properly...
The best news is this is not new upgraded hardware that would split the user base. It’s the same tech repackaged for new users that will benefit Blaze and new uesers financially I’m sure. This is a win as far as I’m concerned. As a footnote Blaze has said in a post that the EXP-R has a new battery life inline with modern expectations.
The battery life is what I'm interested in most. I'll definitely want one of this is true.
I have a screen shot of the response but i can’t see how to post it here. Just video.
Was on the fence about the exp for a while now. But might just pick up the new model. Too bad for the Capcom games but probably the license has expired.
Well actually, they stated that it's the same battery but because it doesn't have the hdmi mini port chip it could extend the battery life and also due to this it runs cooler.
I like collecting these dude. It's better than paying $400 for a PlayStation or Xbox. I'm sure they'll upgrade in the future.
Aye totally. I enjoy it myself. Plus the carts are pretty cool. Current gen is failing badly.
Not what I expected but super happy. I didn’t really want a big update so soon to the hardware, don’t want to have quite new stuff outdated so fast. This is sensible, and cheaper given inflation at the moment is impressive. Good for new people, and for existing people I’ll stick with my VS and EXP. Only an issue for completionists that want every SKU, but at least they are cheap for them I guess!
So long Evercade handheld as I only bought you for hdmi to get fast & responsive 720p gameplay, no other reason. This makes the original EXP's more valuable from a hdmi point of view and that's not including the Capcom games lol. 😉
The grey & black is nice in that original Atari Lynx way, the pale blue not so. Thanks for the low down as always Crazy, cheers!
The R is for red, because it is grey ;)
VS is versus, because you can play against others. Exp is just short for experience, because you will have a better experience with it.
Most probably new Super Pockets coming in November John 😃😃
No.. they are apparently not part of this calendar..
@@CrazyBurgerOh, blimey 😮
High profile publishers need to see a higher userbase it seems, Blaze is pushing for more users in order to appease the nearly convinced ones with the cheaper and more affordable hardware strategy.
Their licence with Capcom ended so more of a nessecity than anything else though.
Being able to offer up the consoles at a cheaoer price point is great for new people though!
This and the Capcom handheld is ine of the very few handhelds that come witu a sega styled d-pad. Is it any good?
The dpad is very good 👍
@@CrazyBurger what's it like compared to a Saturn or megadrive pad?
@@jonnyblanka Similar I guess, think the closest I could think of was the dpad on a 6 button megadrive controller.
@@CrazyBurger sound as a pound
Do we trust them to get the size of the grip right given all the problems they've had with carts fitting?
If you mean the Anne Summers bedroom toy attachment, your screwed if you don't like it. 😁
With any luck the inside that holds the EXP will have rubber foam to prevent scratching, more snug fit.
If both consoles come with the same cartridge, then that will suck for new collectors, as they will have a duplicate game. This announcement was pointless and the fact there are no arcade cartridges a year on from the last and the best games are bundled in hardware means I'm out and selling my Evercade collection.
As someone who loves their VS but has been eyeing the EXP, I'm stoked to have a cheaper option coming this year. The Capcom games bundled with the original EXP are a nice extra, but I really don't need another copy of mega man and SFII lol
Wish they would fix crappy generic D-pad 🙄
It's a Neo Geo CD-style thumbstick.
Evercade apparently took an inspiration in Nintendo when it comes to naming products. Remember the "New Nintendo 3DS XL"?
Massive fail. Releasing new hardware every 6 months is not what anybody wants. Just wait 2 years and release a dual thumbstick device, simple.
They are aimed at people wanting to get into evercade. Making them clearly related vy having same colour scheme and also the new lower price. These are not aimed at existing customers unless you don't already own one or the other.
@@SteveODonnell Terrible argument. If someone wants to get into evercade, they buy an evercade. Simple. They don't need to Release another version of the same thing.
They're not new hardware per se, they're really just new variants of what's currently available. Bit like when Sega released the Master System II and the Megadrive II... remodelled with a few things removed, but essentially the same as their predecessors.
Obviously if you collect all the hardware it's a bit of an issue, but not everyone does that. I'm happy with my original and EXP handhelds, even if I have some niggles with it! 😊
@Benieg83 the point is they've made them a bit cheaper. It may be more appealing to some who were on the fence before.
@@SteveODonnell Then make the already released consoles cheaper.