Magic is so crazily powerful compared to Remake even that it makes me terrified to think of what we're going to face in the next game when we have stronger magic haha.
@OverlordShanbo they will probably balance it by either killing thr damage on harder difficulties, because 'perfectly balance' or tie the magic level more to atb and require the Ara spells to be two and the aga and up to be three.
11:30 Build - Rune Blade, Cetran Bracer, Genji Gloves - Lightning and Wind + Swiftcast, Lightning + Magic Focus, Lightning + MP Absorption, First Strike, ATB Boost, Magic Up, Enemy Skill, ATB Stagger, ATB Assist, Skill Master, Strength Up, Phoenix - ATB Charge Rate Up, Improved Punisher, Magic Attack Power +20, Full-Power Magic For first-timers: replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption, and (maybe) Skill Master with HP Up. Manawall on Cloud with Zack for safety if you want. Overall strategy is the same, it will just take more time. Full strategy in the description. - Cloud: ATB Boost, Prime Mode, Sonic Boom, Plasma Discharge, -ara and -aga spells. - Zack: Faith, Haste, Stop, Chain Slash, -ara and -aga spells. - Sonic Boom buffs last a lot less than Faith/Bravery, so you'll use it only for short rounds. - Make best use of ATB Stagger (for example, if you have full ATB and cast Thundara to stagger you'll get most ATB bar back). - Make best use of ATB Assist to fill Zack's ATB. Most times you'll trigger it by using Prime Mode / Plasma Discharge / Sonic Boom back-to-back (you can also trigger it with spells). - You'll be In Prime Mode most of the time because you need Berserk 2 and auto-parries. - Strong attacks are "tanky" (Cloud won't be interrupted unless the enemy is big, like Kujata or Ironclad), fill a lot of ATB, but don't pressure much. Light attacks don't fill much ATB but pressure more. - Get used to how much ATB each attack fills and how strong attacks work. For example, if you press and hold attack right after a parry or a command (like a spell), Cloud will immediately start with a strong attack without the usual "light slash". This is useful because a full strong attacks combo + two strong attacks exactly fill Cloud's ATB (see the Hueyacoatl fight). - You can counterfire most magic, AoE, and ranged attacks: stomps (Titan, Alexander), beams (Alexander), spells (Brineborn Demon), breaths (Hueyacoatl), most of Bahamut magic attacks.
Dumb question as it is probably just due to the enemies with lightning weakness being tankier and later in the fights, but is there an additional benefit of lightning over wind as far as the primary spell to kit out with MP absorb and Magic Focus? Would it be easier for those seeking a first time clear to forgoe /str up/ and /enemy skill/ with /lightning/ + /HP absorb/
@@Rationalityislost101 Not a dumb question, I also took some time to see what build was better (lightning vs wind). The thing is that Thundaga hits muuuuch faster than Aeroga. Not only this saves time (and my goal was to be as fast as possible), but also some enemies will "dodge" Aeroga. For example, I use Thundaga to stop Kujata from getting an elemental. This usually doesn't work with Aeroga, because by the time the spell actually hits Kujata has already run away and Aeroga misses. You can also miss Odin and Brineborn Demon if they jump away. Thundaga instead never misses. In terms of weaknesses, Aeroga + Magic Focus would allow for faster Hueyacoatl (2 Aeroga instead of 3) and Titan (no need to Sonic Boom, cast Faith with Zack instead and 1 Aeroga will be enough to destroy the shield). But then you cannot "oneshot" Alexander (it may be doable if Zack casts some spell as well, haven't tried) and some enemies will probably take more hits (Ironclad for sure, and I think Kujata, Bahamut and Odin as well). I think the build is pretty much optimized for the current game version. I tried alternative builds with Enervation instead of Strength Up, or an extra Magic Focus + Lightning, but they are bugged (Deshell does nothing, and the extra Magic Focus doesn't increase damage. Also other people have reported these "bugs" on reddit and GameFAQs). But it's definitely not for first timers. The best setup is to replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption. And maybe Skill Master with HP Up. This is how I started, then I removed them as I got better. Also, for first timers it would be good to cast Manawall on Cloud in fights were missing a parry is easy and dangerous (I always used it for Bahamut and Odin at first). The strategy is still the same though (like, people should always cast Stop on Hueyacoatl before hitting it with wind).
Thank you for this build. I have been struggling and struggling with this using a similar build but using Wind magic instead and it just felt like it wasn’t cutting it. Going to try this tomorrow and see if I can finally put this fight past me.
Officially trying your build soon, i love the step by step. Thanks again, again. Since my first comment ive cleared ROTOW again 3 min 58 seconds BoF and TBAH both about 7-10 times each but my time is 14 min on tbah and 15 or so on BoF because i use a safe build but as i improve perfect parry/block/guard i get more confident with magic builds. I wish there was a good Dark side one I've been searching for it recently but this is top tier
More fun looking than rulers of the outer worlds. Completed it today, I'm gonna revenge run it with planet protection or rising fury and limit siphon! I can't wait to play as my favorite character again when I to go back to the simulator I really like how in Crisis Core reunion you can do 99,999 and have that much health. They really show the true power of a soldier with a great story. Like Z is just better than cloud, he has way more power and better techniques and wrecks! Maybe in part 3 of the so-called remake they will let us break the health and damaged cap to show that cloud finally is surpassing his soldier buddy. Idk headcanon. Great job. I'll probably watch this again when I do this challenge
I'm back and I'm just 10 minutes (time game) but it's a great result because thanks to you I beat my record of 14 min. I have just to keep on practicing
Damn I just discovered ur channel and you play as aggressive as me 😦 I thought I was the only one approaching Bonds or To Be a Hero that aggressively. Good stuff
Build in print for my reference: Lightning magic focus ATB first strike magic up Enemy skill ATB stagger Skillmaster strength up ATB assist Lightning and wind Swift cast Lightning MP absorb Equipment Runeblade cetran bracer and genji glove Summon Phoenix Wep abilities: ATB charge rate. Magic attack 20 Full power magic Improved punisher
I've done this solo with cloud but I can't get past Bahamas with Zack so I'm trying to find a really fast bill so I can get faster past the initial rounds in order to practice Zack against Bahamut
I'm about to study the heck out of this video. I'm so tired of these challenges and just wished the developers explained things better. As an example if I've slaughtered Kujata the first three times they made me fight him why would I have to worry about him all of a sudden defeating me, especially if a bulk of the challenges are the same "level?" I just think the delivery of this stuff was really poor and miss when "hard challenges" on video games were actually meant to be challenging. Not an excuse for poorly designed & rushed game quality.
Something positive I will say both for the video and in general is I do appreciate being able to "learn" from these videos about the importance behind certain timing, skills like counterfire, etc. The game just did such a bad job from explaining synergy skills vs abilities to so many other things. L Developers. W Content Creators.
@@coccobello9697 That's incredible. Prior to the content I've been viewing, I had no idea how underrated swift cast would be. No idea that I could stop staggered enemies and use a combination of true strike, rise and fall x omnistrike, back to a doubleboosted rise and fall x strike aGAIN were possible.
Thundaga hits muuuuch faster than Aeroga. Not only this saves time (and my goal was to be as fast as possible), but also some enemies will "dodge" Aeroga. For example, I use Thundaga to stop Kujata from getting an elemental. This usually doesn't work with Aeroga, because by the time the spell actually hits Kujata has already run away and Aeroga misses. You can also miss Odin and Brineborn Demon if they jump away. Thundaga instead never misses. In terms of weaknesses, Aeroga + Magic Focus would allow for faster Hueyacoatl (2 Aeroga instead of 3) and Titan (no need to Sonic Boom, cast Faith with Zack instead and 1 Aeroga will be enough to destroy the shield). But then you cannot "oneshot" Alexander (it may be doable if Zack casts some spell as well, haven't tried) and some enemies will probably take more hits (Ironclad for sure, and I think Kujata, Bahamut and Odin as well).
What's your weapon level? Mine is 10 in the video, so if yours is 9 you'll have slightly lower stats (that would be the case if you haven't completed the challenge yet and got the manuscript).
@@coccobello9697 that means my Charakters getting stronger after I I beat the hard story mode? I did everything sephiroth also but I can’t handle Zack + cloud
@EKk0522 Check your weapon level from the "upgrade weapon" menu. Either you are at level 9 or your Enemy Skill materia is not maxxed (it increases magic by 5% at max level).
@@EKk0522 that explains it. I recommend doing everything else before Bonds. It is considered the hardest challenge. Try to get at least enough manuscript to get level 9.
These are automatic parries in Prime Mode. Hold block and Cloud will automatic counter any physical attack but will also receive damage. If you time it you won't get damaged. Works only for physical attacks, no magic or ranged (for those, you need to deactivate Prime Mode).
@@coccobello9697 i@coccobello9697 interesting thats what i figured just had no idea it had it and that you could do it. do you play at same time w them taking over or they login as you and do everything, ty for reply!
@@coccobello9697 I understand. Well, if you change your mind, $50 sounds good? Lol. I’ll try it but I’m somewhat over the game. I’m on chapter 12 on hard so it’s that and the challenges I have left
Dude, tell me why I perfectly blocked & parried with Cloud at the beginning of the fight with Odin and somehow I have the red handcuffs already.... I just used sonic boom and plasma discharge as well smh...
@@xRoycex Congrats! AFAIK, only Helmcleaver and Scintillating Spear give handcuffs. To prevent that you either have to dodge or perfect parry. Auto-parry in Prime Mode does not prevent status, since you still get hit. If you perfect parry you see "Immune" popping up.
@@codeine_ninja really? I remember that once I perfect parried him and didn't get it. But since it was too risky I ended up dodging it (much easier), so my memory may me wrong. Now I am curious and will try again 🤔
Letting Titan attack you is better because 1) you fill ATB with parries, 2) Haste is better because Cloud needs 1 attack less to fill his ATB, 3) you need 1 Sonic Boom + 1 Aeroga + 1 counterfire (or some counterattacks) to break his shield, so countering also helps with that. In the video I was unlucky that he did Thwack, but otherwise his attacks are very fast to parry. If his 1st attack is Mountain Crusher or a 3-hit combo you can defeat him in 3 seconds less. That's the best time you can get, but it's just luck. Stop is good only with enemies that run around and chasing them would be a waste of time (for example Hueyacoatl turns "supercharged" if you attack with wind and it's not stopped, or Brineborn Demon jumps back to cast spells and you have to chase it).
I agree. By stopping titan before he activates the earthen aegis, you're essentially just needing to strike him with 2 aerogas from Cloud. I find the optimal approach to be using the charged attack combo string via prime mode and then casting aeroga before the first stop wears off. As long as you're not too slow or playing awfully, you can usually hit him with a second aeroga from cloud before he tries to reactivate earthen aegis. He's almost guaranteed to fall before the end of a stagger but you could always go for a second stop from Zack if the anxiety demons are attacking you lol.
@@coccobello9697 Yeah my dude. Sometimes when the game wants to be a pain you might not get the Zack atb charge and you do have to be very quick but it is possible to take him out before he casts Earthen Aegis. The rest of the guide I'm following to a Tee.
Just tried and you are right, it's indeed 5-7 seconds faster. Damn! The round should play like this: Stop with Zack (he must start with 1 full ATB), Prime Mode, attacks for Berserk 2 and full ATB, Aeroga to pressure, more strong attacks for 1 ATB, ATB Boost, Aeroga, light attacks or parries to stagger and trigger ATB Stagger, then either Aerora with both Cloud and Zack, or attack for Aeroga with Cloud.
Screw this I'm paying someone! This is like trying ROW without Yuffie or Aerith! Like soloing ROW with just Cloud! Zack sucks! You might as well do this Cloud solo!
I know :( To play it safe, cast Manawall and Regen on Cloud, stay in Prime Mode and just wait to parry. You can parry all his attacks. If he hits you with Helmcleaver don't attack or he'll use Reprise (switch to Zack). The fight will take longer and at some point he'll use Temporal Imprisonment, but Cloud should have his limit bar full and can use it to be immune.
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I chuckle a little when I remember people saying in the first few days after release that magic sucked in rebirth. Great work
Magic is so crazily powerful compared to Remake even that it makes me terrified to think of what we're going to face in the next game when we have stronger magic haha.
@@OverlordShanbo Stronger magic, but fewer mages... *sob*
@@andruism7 What do you mean? Aerith is perfectly fine. Yep. Nothing wrong here at all.
@@andruism7half the cast have great magic…. Aerith, Cloud, Cait Sith.
@OverlordShanbo they will probably balance it by either killing thr damage on harder difficulties, because 'perfectly balance' or tie the magic level more to atb and require the Ara spells to be two and the aga and up to be three.
11:30 Build
- Rune Blade, Cetran Bracer, Genji Gloves
- Lightning and Wind + Swiftcast, Lightning + Magic Focus, Lightning + MP Absorption, First Strike, ATB Boost, Magic Up, Enemy Skill, ATB Stagger, ATB Assist, Skill Master, Strength Up, Phoenix
- ATB Charge Rate Up, Improved Punisher, Magic Attack Power +20, Full-Power Magic
For first-timers: replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption, and (maybe) Skill Master with HP Up. Manawall on Cloud with Zack for safety if you want. Overall strategy is the same, it will just take more time.
Full strategy in the description.
- Cloud: ATB Boost, Prime Mode, Sonic Boom, Plasma Discharge, -ara and -aga spells.
- Zack: Faith, Haste, Stop, Chain Slash, -ara and -aga spells.
- Sonic Boom buffs last a lot less than Faith/Bravery, so you'll use it only for short rounds.
- Make best use of ATB Stagger (for example, if you have full ATB and cast Thundara to stagger you'll get most ATB bar back).
- Make best use of ATB Assist to fill Zack's ATB. Most times you'll trigger it by using Prime Mode / Plasma Discharge / Sonic Boom back-to-back (you can also trigger it with spells).
- You'll be In Prime Mode most of the time because you need Berserk 2 and auto-parries.
- Strong attacks are "tanky" (Cloud won't be interrupted unless the enemy is big, like Kujata or Ironclad), fill a lot of ATB, but don't pressure much. Light attacks don't fill much ATB but pressure more.
- Get used to how much ATB each attack fills and how strong attacks work. For example, if you press and hold attack right after a parry or a command (like a spell), Cloud will immediately start with a strong attack without the usual "light slash". This is useful because a full strong attacks combo + two strong attacks exactly fill Cloud's ATB (see the Hueyacoatl fight).
- You can counterfire most magic, AoE, and ranged attacks: stomps (Titan, Alexander), beams (Alexander), spells (Brineborn Demon), breaths (Hueyacoatl), most of Bahamut magic attacks.
Dumb question as it is probably just due to the enemies with lightning weakness being tankier and later in the fights, but is there an additional benefit of lightning over wind as far as the primary spell to kit out with MP absorb and Magic Focus?
Would it be easier for those seeking a first time clear to forgoe /str up/ and /enemy skill/ with /lightning/ + /HP absorb/
@@Rationalityislost101
Not a dumb question, I also took some time to see what build was better (lightning vs wind).
The thing is that Thundaga hits muuuuch faster than Aeroga. Not only this saves time (and my goal was to be as fast as possible), but also some enemies will "dodge" Aeroga.
For example, I use Thundaga to stop Kujata from getting an elemental. This usually doesn't work with Aeroga, because by the time the spell actually hits Kujata has already run away and Aeroga misses.
You can also miss Odin and Brineborn Demon if they jump away. Thundaga instead never misses.
In terms of weaknesses, Aeroga + Magic Focus would allow for faster Hueyacoatl (2 Aeroga instead of 3) and Titan (no need to Sonic Boom, cast Faith with Zack instead and 1 Aeroga will be enough to destroy the shield). But then you cannot "oneshot" Alexander (it may be doable if Zack casts some spell as well, haven't tried) and some enemies will probably take more hits (Ironclad for sure, and I think Kujata, Bahamut and Odin as well).
I think the build is pretty much optimized for the current game version. I tried alternative builds with Enervation instead of Strength Up, or an extra Magic Focus + Lightning, but they are bugged (Deshell does nothing, and the extra Magic Focus doesn't increase damage. Also other people have reported these "bugs" on reddit and GameFAQs).
But it's definitely not for first timers. The best setup is to replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption. And maybe Skill Master with HP Up. This is how I started, then I removed them as I got better.
Also, for first timers it would be good to cast Manawall on Cloud in fights were missing a parry is easy and dangerous (I always used it for Bahamut and Odin at first).
The strategy is still the same though (like, people should always cast Stop on Hueyacoatl before hitting it with wind).
Thank you for this build. I have been struggling and struggling with this using a similar build but using Wind magic instead and it just felt like it wasn’t cutting it. Going to try this tomorrow and see if I can finally put this fight past me.
Thanks for the tips! Nice quick run
Please buy a sausage @@kismetatron
Wow! Great video! It is so rare to find videos with such detailed descriptions like yours. Brings back memories of those physical strategy guides.
That's amazing! I can't believe with what people come up with in this game. Nice job👍
This was the best run I've ever seen. You made Odin look like a fool, he didn't even get to use Temporal Imprisonment. Very nice.
I watched this for therapy after finally beating bonds of friendship lol
Officially trying your build soon, i love the step by step. Thanks again, again.
Since my first comment ive cleared ROTOW again 3 min 58 seconds
BoF and TBAH both about 7-10 times each but my time is 14 min on tbah and 15 or so on BoF because i use a safe build but as i improve perfect parry/block/guard i get more confident with magic builds. I wish there was a good Dark side one I've been searching for it recently but this is top tier
More fun looking than rulers of the outer worlds. Completed it today, I'm gonna revenge run it with planet protection or rising fury and limit siphon! I can't wait to play as my favorite character again when I to go back to the simulator
I really like how in Crisis Core reunion you can do 99,999 and have that much health. They really show the true power of a soldier with a great story. Like Z is just better than cloud, he has way more power and better techniques and wrecks! Maybe in part 3 of the so-called remake they will let us break the health and damaged cap to show that cloud finally is surpassing his soldier buddy. Idk headcanon. Great job. I'll probably watch this again when I do this challenge
I'm back and I'm just 10 minutes (time game) but it's a great result because thanks to you I beat my record of 14 min. I have just to keep on practicing
Damn I just discovered ur channel and you play as aggressive as me 😦 I thought I was the only one approaching Bonds or To Be a Hero that aggressively. Good stuff
Incredible, i got them with Wind and a safer Fire/elemental to absorb build but looking at your Ironclad & Alexander... speed. Very inspiring.
Thx to your vid I cleared it. Got Odin 1st try. Switched Strength for precision def though cuz I'm over 40 :D
Congrats! And it's cool you still game in your 40s, never stop!
Incredible! Great job!
Build in print for my reference:
Lightning magic focus
ATB first
strike
magic up
Enemy skill
ATB stagger
Skillmaster
strength up
ATB assist
Lightning and wind Swift cast
Lightning MP absorb
Equipment Runeblade cetran bracer and
genji glove
Summon Phoenix
Wep abilities:
ATB charge rate.
Magic attack 20
Full power magic
Improved punisher
I've done this solo with cloud but I can't get past Bahamas with Zack so I'm trying to find a really fast bill so I can get faster past the initial rounds in order to practice Zack against Bahamut
Seeing you deal chunks of damage with Thundaga to Odin is so satisfying, true catharsis.
When time will come, I'll be back here to prepare myself for this challenge.
CRAZY WAY 🤩
Outrageous R1 action
Wow amazing skills u made it look easy GG man wish I got half of that realy impressive
That was brutal. Took me dozens of tries but your setup got me through… had to do Lightning + HP Absorb though. Never doing that challenge again
That Odin fight tho……😳
Don't sleep on Enemy Skill, probably the single most powerful materia in Rebirth
Best run i have ever seen
This build saved me. Thank you
Holy moly...
This is so insane
More like IronCHAD
i thought counterfire only absorbs ranged attacks or spells. how were you able to counterfire through titan's melee attacks?
@@bZgtHeSTD It works on any AoE attack, including stomps (that's what I counter fire against Titan) and breaths.
Todo el mundo diciendo que para este desafio usemos aero y aqui me encuentro alguien rompiendo el desafio con electro
I want the damn plat, but these final challenges are not fun. Once I clear them, I'm never revisiting them again.
I mean, there’s no reason to once you get the plat lol
I'm about to study the heck out of this video. I'm so tired of these challenges and just wished the developers explained things better. As an example if I've slaughtered Kujata the first three times they made me fight him why would I have to worry about him all of a sudden defeating me, especially if a bulk of the challenges are the same "level?" I just think the delivery of this stuff was really poor and miss when "hard challenges" on video games were actually meant to be challenging. Not an excuse for poorly designed & rushed game quality.
Something positive I will say both for the video and in general is I do appreciate being able to "learn" from these videos about the importance behind certain timing, skills like counterfire, etc. The game just did such a bad job from explaining synergy skills vs abilities to so many other things. L Developers. W Content Creators.
Agreed. Bonds of Friendship and To Be a Hero are too similar. Overall, brutal and legendary challenges could have been designed better.
@@xRoycex I have never used counterfire during my playthrough :D Accidentally found out how good it is while doing these challenges.
@@coccobello9697 That's incredible. Prior to the content I've been viewing, I had no idea how underrated swift cast would be. No idea that I could stop staggered enemies and use a combination of true strike, rise and fall x omnistrike, back to a doubleboosted rise and fall x strike aGAIN were possible.
Gamers be like "games these days handhold you too much, also L for not explaining everything ever."@@xRoycex
could you also do it in share play???
I'll leave you my nickname ps Tommy141008 add me
So your main lighting not wind right lighting better than wind!?
Thundaga hits muuuuch faster than Aeroga. Not only this saves time (and my goal was to be as fast as possible), but also some enemies will "dodge" Aeroga.
For example, I use Thundaga to stop Kujata from getting an elemental. This usually doesn't work with Aeroga, because by the time the spell actually hits Kujata has already run away and Aeroga misses.
You can also miss Odin and Brineborn Demon if they jump away. Thundaga instead never misses.
In terms of weaknesses, Aeroga + Magic Focus would allow for faster Hueyacoatl (2 Aeroga instead of 3) and Titan (no need to Sonic Boom, cast Faith with Zack instead and 1 Aeroga will be enough to destroy the shield). But then you cannot "oneshot" Alexander (it may be doable if Zack casts some spell as well, haven't tried) and some enemies will probably take more hits (Ironclad for sure, and I think Kujata, Bahamut and Odin as well).
@ thx for explaining i just beat it 👍🏻
I have the same build and my magic attack is only 468. How did u get to 499?
@@fabriciotremura2542 is your weapon level maxed? Is Enemy Skill materia maxed (it gives stats boost)?
Sonethibg is wrong with ur build I did ecact same but my mage bonus is on 469 and urs is 499??
What's your weapon level? Mine is 10 in the video, so if yours is 9 you'll have slightly lower stats (that would be the case if you haven't completed the challenge yet and got the manuscript).
@@coccobello9697 that means my Charakters getting stronger after I I beat the hard story mode?
I did everything sephiroth also but I can’t handle Zack + cloud
@EKk0522 Check your weapon level from the "upgrade weapon" menu. Either you are at level 9 or your Enemy Skill materia is not maxxed (it increases magic by 5% at max level).
@@coccobello9697 im at Level 8 and i did everthing accept for hard Mode and some brutal challanges
@@EKk0522 that explains it. I recommend doing everything else before Bonds. It is considered the hardest challenge. Try to get at least enough manuscript to get level 9.
How do you do the parry at 10:13?
These are automatic parries in Prime Mode. Hold block and Cloud will automatic counter any physical attack but will also receive damage. If you time it you won't get damaged. Works only for physical attacks, no magic or ranged (for those, you need to deactivate Prime Mode).
@@coccobello9697 I appreciate it.. I use your videos as a guide to these bouts. They've been a huge help so far. Thank you.
hello hope your doing well,i would like to know if you do help people via share play? thank you
Hey, sorry but I don't do that.
@@coccobello9697 no problem thanks for the answer
what is shared play?
@@danemas7875 You can let people play the game for you, but progress will count for your account.
@@coccobello9697 i@coccobello9697 interesting thats what i figured just had no idea it had it and that you could do it. do you play at same time w them taking over or they login as you and do everything, ty for reply!
How important would you say party level 10 is
Not sure. I don't remember what it unlocks. I'd say go for it, it not that hard compared to Bonds.
@@coccobello9697 it unlocks an ability called ATB limit where it allows cloud to fill limits gauge when using ATB commands
@@mohamadou4695 not important
would you help me get it?
Sorry I don't do share play
Can you help me?
How about I venmo you if you complete bonds of friendship and to be a hero for me? I’m not joking either. I’m so over this game
Sorry man, I don't do that. Check my top comment where I say "For first-timers:" for a simpler and safer strategy, it may help.
@@coccobello9697 I understand. Well, if you change your mind, $50 sounds good? Lol. I’ll try it but I’m somewhat over the game. I’m on chapter 12 on hard so it’s that and the challenges I have left
Dude, tell me why I perfectly blocked & parried with Cloud at the beginning of the fight with Odin and somehow I have the red handcuffs already.... I just used sonic boom and plasma discharge as well smh...
Luckily I was able to complete the challenge after I typed this comment with a record speed of 11:35 seconds :D
But yea Odin handcuffed Cloud TWICE. Cloud parried every hit, Zack even got hit by the allfather attack and no handcuffs :I
@@xRoycex Congrats! AFAIK, only Helmcleaver and Scintillating Spear give handcuffs. To prevent that you either have to dodge or perfect parry. Auto-parry in Prime Mode does not prevent status, since you still get hit. If you perfect parry you see "Immune" popping up.
@@coccobello9697 you still get Reprisal from perfect blocking Helmcleaver, the only way to avoid being handcuffed by Helmcleaver is dodging
@@codeine_ninja really? I remember that once I perfect parried him and didn't get it. But since it was too risky I ended up dodging it (much easier), so my memory may me wrong. Now I am curious and will try again 🤔
Why not just stop on titan right at the start. You could have done it even faster
Letting Titan attack you is better because 1) you fill ATB with parries, 2) Haste is better because Cloud needs 1 attack less to fill his ATB, 3) you need 1 Sonic Boom + 1 Aeroga + 1 counterfire (or some counterattacks) to break his shield, so countering also helps with that.
In the video I was unlucky that he did Thwack, but otherwise his attacks are very fast to parry. If his 1st attack is Mountain Crusher or a 3-hit combo you can defeat him in 3 seconds less. That's the best time you can get, but it's just luck.
Stop is good only with enemies that run around and chasing them would be a waste of time (for example Hueyacoatl turns "supercharged" if you attack with wind and it's not stopped, or Brineborn Demon jumps back to cast spells and you have to chase it).
I agree. By stopping titan before he activates the earthen aegis, you're essentially just needing to strike him with 2 aerogas from Cloud. I find the optimal approach to be using the charged attack combo string via prime mode and then casting aeroga before the first stop wears off. As long as you're not too slow or playing awfully, you can usually hit him with a second aeroga from cloud before he tries to reactivate earthen aegis. He's almost guaranteed to fall before the end of a stagger but you could always go for a second stop from Zack if the anxiety demons are attacking you lol.
@@xRoycex Wait, you can Stop him BEFORE he casts the shield??? Lol didn't know that!
@@coccobello9697 Yeah my dude. Sometimes when the game wants to be a pain you might not get the Zack atb charge and you do have to be very quick but it is possible to take him out before he casts Earthen Aegis. The rest of the guide I'm following to a Tee.
Just tried and you are right, it's indeed 5-7 seconds faster. Damn!
The round should play like this: Stop with Zack (he must start with 1 full ATB), Prime Mode, attacks for Berserk 2 and full ATB, Aeroga to pressure, more strong attacks for 1 ATB, ATB Boost, Aeroga, light attacks or parries to stagger and trigger ATB Stagger, then either Aerora with both Cloud and Zack, or attack for Aeroga with Cloud.
Screw this I'm paying someone! This is like trying ROW without Yuffie or Aerith! Like soloing ROW with just Cloud! Zack sucks! You might as well do this Cloud solo!
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I’ve lost to Odin twice now.. it kills my motivation so much when you get that far just to die at the end….🫤
I know :(
To play it safe, cast Manawall and Regen on Cloud, stay in Prime Mode and just wait to parry. You can parry all his attacks. If he hits you with Helmcleaver don't attack or he'll use Reprise (switch to Zack). The fight will take longer and at some point he'll use Temporal Imprisonment, but Cloud should have his limit bar full and can use it to be immune.