That One Time I Hated Peggy
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- The episode where Peggy gets under my skin more than any other.
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Lucky freaking loves Luanne, he's so polite and respectful to her. He legit doesn't expect her to do anything for him he just feels lucky to have her. He's not the prettiest person or the smartest but he treats Luanne with all the respect and dignity that she deserves.
He was a genuinely good person, who genuinely loved Luanne and genuinely cared for the Hills. Due to his upbringing and life he led before he met Luanne, he wasn't always the brightest and he was certainly a slacker and a hillbilly, but after becoming part of the main cast he constantly tried to better himself in small ways, and always tried to do right towards his family. I know I'm in the minority, but he quickly because one of my favorite characters in the show. I don't understand the hate for him. Peggy, on the other hand, I very rarely liked. Her antics were sometimes entertaining, but I hated her as a person. Admittedly, during the series' first run, I never really thought "I hate this character" when watching it, since I was simply "watching" it, but as I revisited the series, I really noticed how horrible a person she was (or at least, that was my opinion of her)
peggy's heart was attempting to be in the right place, bc of how fucking rough luanne's life was before she met him, but it took peggy waaay to long to realize that what luanne needed was love and respect from the right guy, rather or not he had a job, which was all wrapped up in lucky. he's a good egg
@@korysoftout219
I agree Lucky could be a good person, and started to shape up as time went on and he started gaining more responsibility like a child, but he wasn't a "genuinely good person". His one claim to fame was basically exploiting the legal system and some business which he was proud of, not producing anything useful to society. He could be remarkably short-signed, narrow-minded, and selfish (of course, that describes a lot of the characters). He sent thugs to extort "wedding gifts" from Kahn and Minh. He's destroyed other people's property (like Hank's lawn). The list goes on.
I would characterize Lucky as generally well-intentioned but a flawed person who did improve over time.
He treats Luanne a heck of a lot better than her died ex boyfriend.
@@asteriasheria2053 hey
Peggy is always projecting her problems into others
She was raised by a narcissistic mother. It's pretty much par for the course.
Shoddy upbringing and being overeducated with an inflated ego without any common sense.
@@NightMotorcyclist well, she only has a two year diploma. Not sure about the over educated part.
@@notyourfrind9415 she acts over educated tho and someone with that mindset 😬
@@flext-rex8284 @
Meria Martell88 Well, among the regular cast, she is one of the only ones that is college educated at all, as far as I remember. She thinks she's smarter than she actually is, but she is severely lacking in self-awareness and common sense, two common traits of, yes, narcissism. She often needs very simple and obvious things spelled out to her, and she lacks any real ability to be introspective to any degree.
Lucky will never become a brain surgeon, but he loves Luanne, and would never be unfaithful or hurt her, or anyone else. Peggy, on the other hand, is petty, dishonest and selfish, and would harm others on a whim- yet she sees Lucky as beneath her.
Peggy is a pretty remarkable character considering where she cam from.
She is a worse person than Cotton or Nancy in someways and less likeable.
It'd be nice to see a future KotH episdoe where a Bobby and Luanne are fully adults, Bobby probably runs a hip, awesome restaurant using only propane cookware, and Luanne is CEO of a multi billion dollar corporation, where she's as ditzy as always but instinctively knows how to make everything run great. Hank and Peggy can sit on their porch, slowly rocking in the chairs, and both of them can breathe a sigh of relief and admit that despite all their mistakes, they did a hell of a job raising two kids.
Peggy will and did step on her own son's neck multiple times when her ego felt threatened.
She doesn't hurt people on a whim. She may have crappy reasons but she always has reasons.
Lucky is a sweetheart! I can understand Peggy's concern for Luanne's future, but to set him up for failure is REALLY messed up.
Seriously
For someone so concerned for Luanne’s future, she really had no problem with ruining someone else’s.
"Woman. How many pretzels did you eat to get this thirsty!?" - Holy hell that may have been the funniest line pointed towards Nancy I have ever heard
To be fair, she did marry Dale. Do you expect her to have good taste in men? Redcorn is hot, but Nancy has been shown to be into really ugly or homely guys lol
I love that line also 🙂
i gave you your 400th like
@@snowflakeowl1762 Well, Dale seems to have gotten Nancy due to more how caring he is, and his sense of romance, whereas Redcorn was for his body.
I'm totally stealing that line.
Peggy infuriated me in the episode, but honestly Hank doing the shotgun wedding thing for Lucky is still hilarious.
She didn’t infuriate me but you’re right the shotgun wedding is still hilarious!
What more could a proud ignorant woman want? I only wish, as one myself, I find my Lucky one day. :P
Lol he told him to cock the gun and hank was like no
I have always hated peggy but this episode was my top
Lucky: "Is it loaded?"
Hank: [sighs and racks shotgun]
Props to Hank for supporting Luanne sincerely, even if he said "best of the worst situation" he always put Luanne happiness over Peggy's insane ramblings, is funny that he seems to care more about her than her own closest family
It's funny if you also consider he's the most conservative second only to Cotton. Yet he's extremely tolerant of *almost anything. Yeah he will stand firm on his beliefs and voice them, but he would never really go out of his way to hammer a point in like Peggy or Cotton.
Hank and Peggy are a inversion of the normal sitcom married couple.
Hank is wise and calm (mostly) while Peggy is impulsive and emotional
Facts
Yeah, AKA real life. Psychologically speaking, women tend to be more emotional and men tend to be more logical
And that's why i love king of the hill. Its accurate to life in most of women's flaws in relation to men's flaws.
@@St33lStrife Well, psychologically speaking, bababooey
@@St33lStrife Emotion isn't the inverse of logic, it's a component of it. This is why some closed off men struggle to make logically sound decisions when it comes to relationships. They may fail to resonate with their partners on an emotional level, or understand personal motivations or perspectives that would allow for more informed and useful decisions involving friends or family.
Besides, men are plenty emotional. Anger and protectiveness are traditionally masculine and are just as much emotional as sadness and worry, which are traditionally seen as feminine.
Also her intentionally sabotaging Lucky was a failure on her part as a teacher, which she takes so much pride in the throughout the entire series
On top of that, wouldn’t Peggy get fired and potentially blacklisted if word got out to the school administration about what she did? Not only did she sabotage Lucky out of spite, but her actions could also be seen as blatantly ableist and classist.
@@Cure_Hana Lucky's not disabled, I mean other than the whole Costco Pee Pee thing.
he’d still be classified as partly physically disabled since it was a back injury
Quote of Peggy in that episode: "Education for education's sake, what a waste!"
It’s like a doctor violating the Hippocratic oath
Out of every dude in the show Luann was with, lucky was absolutely the biggest gem. Never judge a book by its cover always judge it by the way it treats other people and he treats Luann like a queen
Right?? Plus HE FOLDS LAUNDRY VOLUNTARILY! Dude even I felt my panties hit the floor when he did that.
@@WobblesandBean right! Like omg he is a freaking gem!
@@WobblesandBean I became Niagara Falls
Wait people don't fold laundry willingly?
So there are actually girls out there that appreciate decent guys? Not ones that just use them and throw them away like trash...my gawd.
The only time Peggy didn't suck was when she called out Cotton for being a terrible father.
She sucked least when the parachute didn't open
Also the time she beat up Luanne's Mom
Ben Walsh LMAOO
Agreed
honestly he wasn't that bad of father either, comparatively
Honestly, compared to all of Luanne's ex boyfriends who were rich or handsome (or Buckley), Lucky is the best one. He truly loves Luanne and wants to take care of her.
and you never see him disrespect her even when they had disagreements or arguments
He’s even a decent dad compared to how he could have been. He and Luanne both were preparing to be good parents, went through classes, changed some of their habits, just trying like any other couple.
When Luanne was off with her sock puppets, Lucky stepped up and wasn’t too insecure to ask for help from Hank.
“I’m just gonna say it: I got a rolling baby”
Honestly, besides the lack of stable job or work, he’s a pretty good catch for any lady.
Just an even funnier note. Lucky is voiced by Tom Petty. So the famous singer, Tom Petty said the line "I slipped on PP in a cosco"
This just made me love the character even more. Thank you for sharing.
I honestly wish I knew this growing up, but those credits were always pretty fast.
Lucky is pretty much Tom Petty if the rockstar thing didn't work out.
AND I'M PEEEEEEEEEE
PEEEEEEEEE FAAAAALLLLIIIIIIIIIN
The show is heavily influenced by Tom Petty as a whole. The name "King lf the Hill" is a Tom Petty song title.
The whole retaking the GED really annoyed me. Even if Lucky and Luanne thought you could only take it once, why not just have Peggy tell him you can retake it and have him pass it? That was so stupid to go the shotgun wedding route.
It's mainly because of Peggy's lies. Lucky wholeheartedly believed her. And the fact that he was willing to trust Peggy with education because she's a teacher is more disgusting. The fact that she deliberately sabotage and did all the stuff to a person who genuinely wants to be better out of vindictive spite is deplorable disgusting and wicked
Eh, the writers probably thought the way they went would be funnier. I personally find the episode boring.
From Lucky's point of view, he tried his hardest to pass and still failed. He doesn't see passing as a possibility.
Should Lucky keep going and try again? As the audience we know that he was sabotaged; we see his studying as a montage of scenes, and most of us are high school graduates and realize how low a bar high school graduation is, but to Lucky he has hours of work ahead of him if he chooses to study and he already failed twice (once in actual school and once on his GED).
I mean, I think that everyone has the experience of finding out that some dreams aren't going to come true, and Lucky is probably at that point regarding his GED.
@@88michaelandersen But then later he finds out it _was_ sabotage.
Lucky is very big on tradition
Shotgun weddings run in his family
Some people view Luann's marriage to lucky and moving into a trailer park to be her returning to the life she tried to run away from.
To me it's her triumphing over her painful past and realising that as long as she is with people she love and who love her in kind, she is home.
Luanne got to decide who and what she wanted
"The only way he'd marry Luanne is if was held at gunpoint and they beat him up"
Me: haha that's super silly of course they didn't go that rou-
"So they held him at gunpoint and beat him up"
Me: *WHAT*
Look up "shotgun wedding"~
Lucky explained his father and grandfather, and so on also failed to achieve their marriage goal, but were still married via a "shotgun marriage."
He them explains the process, and they go through with it, including having them kick him in the stomach (hank is reluctant, Peggy more than willing).
Honestly, hate the guy if you want, but at least he wanted to have some form of education, and asked peggy for help, and lucky wasnt a bad guy, sure like to get easy money, but as we see he truly does love luanne, and wants the best for her
lucky was a catch fr - hes good to luanne and bobby and is an all around good dude. ugly as fuck but still a great guy
as far as I recall, wasn't Lucky a Responsible Layabout? that's alot better than some quote 'responsible' people we've known in our lives. Jesus H. Christ Peggy
Lucky's episode where he wants to sue Dale is a pretty low moment for him. I do like how he learned what he was doing was fully wrong though.
Theres some things I believe should go without morals, money is one of them (of course not all methods of making money are ok for sure) I'll just say who DOESN'T want easy money? To get anywhere in life you have to cheat.
@@happypunky4129 people have standards dude, i preffer to be poor than live as a human trafficker, to put an example
I kinda wish the whole pregnancy thing hasn't happened. It would have been better to have Peggy feel bad because she realized Luanne was happy with Lucky, without the pregnancy reveal basically forcing her to make things right.
I think the implication is that without the pregnancy Peggy wouldn’t have spoken up. Ignoring Luanne’s feelings because she “know best” is not a new behavior.
@@jonathanthomas4327 Yeah, that's the problem. They have that scene of Peggy feeling guilt after seeing how devastated she is, but I can't see it as genuine because it seems like only the pregnancy thing bothers her.
@@matti.8465 problem is that Peggy...rarely feels guilty. that's the problem with narcissists, they rarely admit they are wrong and feel little guilt over anything.
As others pointed out, the problem with Peggy is that the story essentially has to *force* her to do the right thing, even when she openly hates and reviles that thing. If left to come to terms on her own, she never does because she can only see things from her eternal "I know what's best because I'm the smartest person in the room" personality. It sucks that they went the ham-fisted pregnancy route, but it was either that or nothing since Peggy would have never told him the test was not a one chance deal.
@@ForeverLaxx Yeah, without the pregnancy angle Peggy doing the right thing would've actually been uncharacteristic of her and would've left viewers - or, at least, certainly me who grew up watching the show - confused.
I enjoy how Nancy and John do what can objectively be called one of the more fucked up things in KotH, but Peggy's constant "I'm the smartest in the room" behavior and superior attitude makes her that much less likeable.
I think the show is self-aware that Peggy and Hank can be so narcissistic how their family “looks” rather than accept how they are and properly love them.
Real people are like that tho. A huge number of families couldn't give a fuck less if they make their kids or relatives hate themselves so long as they remain in good social standing among others. People really got it ass backwards nowadays
@@UnholyWrath3277 You are very right about that.
Chill out Luanne. You’re gonna be pregnant for like three seasons. That’s plenty of time for him to get his GED and marry you
Yeah, and she's 1 month pregnant for two of them.
Lmao
How many seasons Bonnie was pregnant? You know from family Guy.
@@Asahamana yes
@@guilhermehank4938 Oh good
“How many pretzels did you eat to get this thirsty?!” Is literally the best lone ever.
I was eating a pretzel
I don't know when, and I don't know how, but I WILL use that line as soon as I can
Lucky: *has a relatively easy to pronounce German last name*
Shady: just nope. not even trying
Haha, I had the same thought.
Lucky is like Dale. He's a bit cooky but he absolutely loves the woman he's with and would do anything for her. He's a good man and does everything he can for Louane
I’d believe that Peggy is Code of Honor free in this episode.
Yeah it’s like, ok it might not be “Lawful Good/Neutral” levels of a literal code of honor but everyone does have some things they value and live by whether consciously or subconsciously
Peggy Hill has no honor!!!
She's a narcissist she has no honor
"These things are designed so even a high school dropout can pass the test!"
This coming from a substitute spanish teacher, who's main means of learning spanish is watching daytime Telemundo. I'm pretty sure the only qualification for being a sub is a high school diploma, anyway.
It's almost like she is a narcissist
Nah, in an episode about the 3 Matrons of the neighborhood she reveals she has an Associates Degree
@@SerenityM16 Well, for having one, she still doesn't know much Spanish. Practically any Spanish.
@@SerenityM16 she acts like a know-it-all for having a two year degree. She does it with psychology, world cultures and language
@@praiselordJashin she didn’t *nessicarily* have to take Spanish
Hank: "It's part of his weird code of honor"
Dale: "You bought that?"😂😂😂
I think the beautiful irony of Lucky’s character is that every now and then, he’s the most insightful and socially aware out of all of all the characters.
she got her just desserts in the very first episode the next season when everybody, even drag queens think she look like a man
Not everybody. It was only the drag queens, and that was because she was at a drag queen store. Plus, by the end of the episode, she learns to accept herself.
@It is what it is TUH The Asian woman's name is Minh.
@@EclecticallyEccentric Thanks, I never knew about the h in her name
He should review that episode.
Peggy being put off by Lucky reminds me of Jane Austen's Emma. It's hard for Peggy to accept her own shortcomings and she's insecure in her own selfhood. Due to that, she projects herself onto Luanne and thinks that Lucky isn't good enough for her, just like the character Emma.
*incoming this is youtube comment*
You read books? Laaaaaaaaame.
yeah the show did a p good job imo of emphasizing peggys connection to luane and how peggy sees her as a daughter figure to imprint on/see herself in like how hank does with bobby (and is p common in a parent child relationship) and the eps where that relationship is messed with somehow are some of my faves
That was the last movie I saw in theaters before the end times
Peggy is just one of those people that gets intimidated when someone who's doing not as well as her but is genuinely content with how they are and actively tries to sabotage them to feel better about herself
@@luffyduffy7817 yeah that was it wasn’t it? mine was portrait of a lady on fire. emma was next on my list and then bam! virus spread to US. i really enjoyed it though. the cinematography was very beautiful.
I love how Hank is bothered by what channel Lucky leaves it on. Especially considering he states that he doesn't even know why, he just knows it does
everyone has those things where you don't know why it bugs you but it does.
So does anyone else remember that episode of King of the Hill where their friends and neighbors give them grief because they have an old woman arrested after she breaks into their house because she wants to die there?
Can we all take a moment to appreciate Tom Petty’s performance? The man was talented in just so many ways
I forgot he died
Lucky is pretty much Tom Petty if the rock star thing didn't happen
@@ianfinrir8724 bs
To be fair, Lucky spends thousands on his truck, doesnt work, and thinks his $25k allowance from an insurance scam will last him the rest of his life.
He's also implied multiple times that he could just repeat the injury somewhere else and get another settlement. He may genuinely care about Luanne, but he really has no intention of making an honest dollar.
@@ForeverLaxx except he decided to go take the test in an attempt to get a job . It's character development . In the past he was fine mootching now he wants a job to ensure he is good enough to care for her and provide
@@kitty79532 If this is in reference to the GED, he only went for it because he made a promise to get one before he got married. Peggy, of course, ruined that goal because she thought he wouldn't marry without one but he went through it anyway. The claim of getting a job was to assuage what he thought was Peggy's biggest reason for not liking him but I doubt he intended to follow through.
There were multiple scenes of him trying to get more insurance settlements and even trying to get Luanne to practice slipping on cups of water they brought into the store themselves to scam the business. He found his "meal ticket" and intended to keep that train rolling.
And he's old
Actually the first one he did he got 53k lol
Lucky is too dam pure for this show. This man live by his word. And that is something you don’t hardly see in a man any more. Honestly, Lucky is a mature man who loves and Respect Luann.
I never saw this episode but hearing Lucky say getting his GED would make him good enough for Luanne was so sweet and just made me so much angrier at Peggy. That's pretty low.
"How many pretzels did you eat to become this thirsty?" is officially the best thing I've ever heard this man say.
In this episode, Peggy was not only closed minded and controlling. She was mean. Who is she to say whose better than who. Lucky genuinely loves and respects Louanne. And I would think that Peggy would be open minded after seeing for herself that some of the richer and more sophisticated guys Louanne, or even she, met turned out to be creeps.
There's literally nobody bad enough for Luanne. Lucky's a dropout and he's STILL ten times smarter than her on her best day.
@@AndreNDP Luanne may not be bright, but she is kind, she keeps trying new things and she is a survivor. She deserves a person who loves and respects. Nobody deserves to be with a bad person just because they aren't smart.
True luanne has had some real bad boyfriends. Lucky is a good guy.
Peggy was always closed minded and controlling, she was a horrible person
I understand Peggy was against Lucky before. But Lucky finally decided to grow up and Peggy refused to acknowledge that.
That Nagasaki joke came out of nowhere. That was perfect.
And in just this one episode Luanne acted more of a real wife then Peggy has in the entire series x.x
It's like with any parental figure, they wants what's best for their kid but are blinded by their own ambitions to see that their kid just needs happiness
Stupid crap that can ruin kid's futures make them happy all the time. Being a parent means being more concerned with what will make them safe and secure in the future.
That, and cuz some parents want to live vicariously through their kids.
@@Embermoon91 her actual parents are just that and maybe worse
Kleinschmidt is just one of those names where it's hard to break down to make it easier to pronounce, but once you know how to pronounce it, it's easy.
I beg to differ. Klein and Schmidt are both fairly common last names, so all you have to do is put them together.
My third grade teacher had that name, it’s easy to pronounce when you know the person
The funny part is, they only ever say his real name once in the show.
Yea I'm like "that's...thats not that hard " - But I also live in Texas and its a combo of two common German last names here.
My sister married a Kleinschmit
Im conservative and appreciate sbady for being neutral on this when so many would go on an anti conservative rant.
God bless you dude.
Agreed. He actually understands what our arguments are instead of just saying "racist, hateful conservatives."
It's why I love him ❤️ 💕
Actually, Shady in another video revealed he's not Woke. In fact he even said he was a Right-leaning Moderate.
Lucky’s love for Luanne aside, Lucky is also the only love interest of Luanne’s that’s nice to Bobby. It’s always bothered me that NOBODY on the show acknowledges that. That should have been something Hank mentions as a good quality of Lucky’s.
"She can do better!"
Yeah, being a trophy wife, maybe. But in all honesty, no, Luanne cannot do better. She was lucky enough to get a guy who actually wanted to better himself at all.
Luanne isn’t as dumb as she seems though. She could get a decent job as a mechanic as she clearly has a lot of car smarts.
@@crisptomato9495 those where kind of dropped later in the show
She could have if she applied herself. She's surprisingly clever when she wants to be.
Luanne saved her extended family from nicotine addition because she didnt want them to turn into junkies like her immediate family. She's ditzy but knows when to put her foot down. She grew up in an awful home but managed to become a good mother and break multple cycles of abuse. Shes not perfect, i wish they did more with her and had an arc where she bacame professional mechanic but she's a good character and a good women.
@@guilhermehank4938 I think they were rather developed later in the show. I think I remember an episode in an early season where the guys are trying to figure out a problem with Hank's truck, and Luanne wanders over and just matter-of-factly tells them the solution. But it was used more of a throw away joke at that point.
Yeah I agree I never hated Peggy. But this episode and the one where she drugged Hank just made me so mad at her.
I absolutely hate Peggy. In the first few seasons, she was actually quite selfless and wasn't as narcissistic. But after that, she was just a complete narcissist who thought she was the smartest person in the world, when she was truly the most ignorant. If they ever reboot koth, I wish for Peggy to not be like this.
Peggy rarely has any likable moments.
@@drgojira2.083 a fan theory likes to imagine her near death fall fucked with her head and made her annoying but harmless narcissism increase to extreme levels
@@brianaguilar8283 she was likeable at first. In fact it's a similar Luan situation. They both had a headstrong attitude when it came to virtually anything they did but as soon as their eyes became more expressive the writers turned them into idiots that acted stupider as the seasons went on
@@drgojira2.083 I think it was her accident that only elevated that mentality. She always had an inferioty complex, but before the accident it wasn't as bad, she had a good place, a good work, a good family, she felt content. After going to her lowest point, which was during her recovery and then physiotherapy to regain her strength, she fears ever going so low again and at the same time, she felt a huge high by managing to overcome the challenges. so to keep that high she always needs to feel one step above everyone else, she thinks she's actually good at spanish when it's at best mediocre, if you correct her, God forbids, she'll just deny it and think you're lying to try to get her down.
If anything, I think what would be a good character development is having Hank call her out on it, or Bobby of all people, her own son. Either would hit her massively over inflated yet extremely fragile ego where it hurts the most, causing her to either go into full denial or go into a depression which she would have to work herself out of.
That or she should have died in the skydiving accident, it would have been more of a character development for Hank and Bobby, especially Hank considering the potential idea of marrying a new woman.
$53K for an injury that required two vertebrae to be fused tells me his lawyer was either a crook or a moron.
His lawyer is indeed a crook. They reveal this in the episode where he and Luanne get married.
"Woman, how many pretzels did you eat to become this thirsty?" I'm going to steal that, sorry not sorry, that is such a great line. Thank you.
6:55 "Personally, I don't much like people. Most of them annoy me."
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
This makes me wonder if Peggy doesnt feel ultimately unhappy with hank and thinks she could have done better and thus projects that all into Luane and Lucky.
Nah, she rarely thinks of Hank as less than the best
No, she has been married to Hank for twenty years and he has never once missed a mortgage payment
Do you think any woman can do better than hank? He is peak masculinity
@@JosephFlores-yn4yi of course not but women always think they can have better
Oh please, who could do better than Hank?
Lucky had one of the best lines in the entire show: "Lucky is on the case. Now, that's usually what I say when I'm drinkin' beer, but..."
Lucky is actually really smart, you just have to read *a lot* of philosophy to understand his character
I can't tell if you're joking o.o
Please please please explain at least a little
@@solajegs I'm convinced he's joking o.o
@@abigcupofwater he's being serious
@@robertisham5279 is he referring to something specific? Of course Lucky isn't outright stupid, pretty sure he's supposed to just be a trailer park stereotype
I'm well aware of John Redcorn's flaws, but at the end of the day, I feel more disgust toward Peggy's flaws than I do John's.
I mean we see Peggy more than John Redcorn
@@allegedcombustion9014 Yeah, but that's not the only reason. John Redcorn views himself as a victim while having limited awareness of the impact of his behavior on others. To some degree he probably has been truly victimized due to racism, but he deals with it in an unhealthy way, and that needs to be acknowledged.
Peggy can't admit when she is wrong, can't admit to her own limitations, and does things "for other people's own good" which only further her agenda without truly taking the other person's needs into account.
Both of those things are flaws. But I just find the former flaw easier to accept and forgive. Especially since John Redcorn does try his best to stay in his biological son's life, so that partially redeems him in my eyes.
@@messinalyle4030 I agree about your points on Peggy and JR, but I can't stand the victim hood mentality, you know who's a victim in life? Every. Fng. Person. On. The. Planet. You can either wallow in it like John and Bill do, or you can get off your @ss and do something about it.
@@mragin yup. And it made it especially disgusting to me he was sleeping with Nancy behind Dale’s back when dale had nothing but respect and treated him like anyone else. He screws over one of the nicest people to him in the show.
John isnt hate able like shady and some of his fans think. Shady has this hatred because hes likely been cheated on like dale. John had originally no loyalty to dale. Yall out here turnin down bitches cause there in relationships? Also he hates him cause hes a minority with “victim mentality “ cause shady is like a nerdy uncle rukus
“Well that’s probably why you failed” I lmao’d
Hank must be a great man to love someone like Peggy, that's all I got to say
Hank is the kind of guy that would suffer for the rest of his life with Peggy to avoid the drama of any alternative.
Honestly, if someone is willing to honestly better themselves for you that is POWERFUL AND RARE and should be respected
poor Lucky.. i guess he just wasn't that, _lucky_
okay i'll stop with the bad jokes... for now..
Probably Peggys lowest point there. Excellent examination. Perhaps an episode featuring Buck next?
I'd like to see a Buck video, as well. Buck is even worse than Peggy; he's a cheating adulterer, a dirty old man who hits on Luanne, a deadbeat dad, and he can be really vulgar and disgusting. He's also cruel to most of his employees.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever
Buck is upfront with his faults and doesn't excuse them. Peggy often doubles down on her stupidity and doesn't learn.
@@irvinmorales1409 Good point, but I think Peggy has mental problems, whereas Buck is just an ass.
Nah, I think her lowest point was drugging hank behind his back for her benfit
Well... she did kidnap a Mexican child by being too proud to admit she can't speak Spanish.
So happy to find this channel, I was running out of solid animation commentary and this was everything I needed. Not just King of the Hill but several other great shows' commentary. It's awesome man, keep it up!!
In terms of Lucky the only episode I didn’t really like him in was the one where he immediately tried suing Dale for a workplace injury.
'Woman...how many pretzels did you eat to become this thirsty?!'
At least a crates ' worth if friggin lucky is getting her motor goin. God damn. Lmfao
Does being close to Dale make her that desperate for any guy slightly better looking?
@@guilhermehank4938 Have you seen Dale!
This oddly helped me through one of my own problems I'm having with supporting a friend that I feel is making a bad decision.
I wouldn’t outright ignore it. Best thing to do is talk to your friend and lay out the pros and cons.
Well I failed to help my best friend. I did everything I could to prevent him from being in a toxic relationship but he cast me aside and did everything he could to treat me like trash. She's literally screwing him over but he doesn't want to acknowledge it.
"The one time." LOL! As if you could hate Peggy only once.("Lupe's Revenge"was another. Incompetence rewarded for no reason.)
I still think Peggy was worse when she sabotaged Bobby’s Thanksgiving meal out of jealousy, but this is definitely a close second.
Did you hear they're gonna bring back King of the Hill...? For the "modern times" they say... 😤 God, we already know how that's gonna end, right?
Kangz of the hood.
Sorry
They should base it around Bobby
Hank gets killed off and the show is renamed "The Hills"
Oh lord, some far left anti religion dude will probably be in charge of the show.
I hope not. If Hank Hill is an NPC I'm killing myself.
there was this one time i remember when peggy did this one good thing like a really really good thing
the schools football star was allowed to do whatever he wanted cause he is the guy who can help win the schools big game but he doesnt have great grades cause of it ......so peggy tries to help him and everyone hated her it
Even the player's mom lies to guilt Peggy into passing him.
The player wanted to not just be a football player but also graduate on his own effort.
It showed how schools are willing to bend over backwards for their athletes.
@@burgessballenas9332 Yeah, unfortunately.
I loved that guy. Especially what he said near the end. "I'm gonna be smokin' on that field! But not near a propane tank, because propane is flammable."
She definitely had a Code of Honor in that episode despite saying she doesn't have one in this episode
"How many pretzels did you eat to become this thirsty!?"
10/10 insult.
3:10 Probably my favorite few lines of the show. It's the smallest things that can make us the angriest.
Oh, but she's done worse! There was that time she sabotaged Hank, her own husband, when he was substituting for shop class. No good intentions this time. She did it because he was set to win an award that she was after,.
She didn't sabotage him, he was fired because of an unrelated but idiotic law that made his teaching methods intolerable. She _did_ try to build herself up before that, and after the firing tried to use him as a springboard for popularity.
She sabotaged Bobby's dinner because she was jealous that her son could cook and sew better than she could. Literally not even proud of her own child's accomplishments.
@@balanc-joy9187 I say that episode had something cut out.
@@leesimmons5453 ...What makes you say that? I wouldn't be surprised that there was _something_ cut out, as most if not all episodes do as they are made (unfortunately that episode was after they _stopped_ giving bonus features on the DVDs *grrrr* ) but anything in particular indicate that they cut out anything to you?
@@balanc-joy9187 I don't think it's a coincidence that right before Hank gets in trouble for banned materials, Peggy's fuming that Hank might get the teacher of the year award instead of her.
I may have never seen a single full episode of KOTH, but GOD DAMNIT I LOVE IT WHEN SHADEY TALKS ABOUT IT
"I dont even know why it bothers me so much but it does" is such a relatable sentiment
Luanne was so cute. Rest in piece Brittany.
Nancy: THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKIN ME THIRSTY
Kramer still says it better :P
@@leviacronym6770 nope George
While I might agree with John being a worse person for his flaws, I hate Peggy more due to the fact that at least John does get punished by not being allowed to raise Joseph without taking even more consequences. Peggy is never punished for her flaws and never grows as a character. The fact that she never has to take accountability for any issues caused by her flaws is why I hate her more. At least John has to accept that he can't raise Joseph without taking accountability. Peggy saying "Yeah yeah yeah..." is disregarding any accountability for ruining both Lucky and Luanne's life, and doesn't get punished for it. Sorry for the rant, it just gets me the same amount as John does to you Shady.
I was always under the impression that Peggy was psychologically a narcissist, with feelings of inadequacy stemming from her mother's mental abuse and her own insecurities about her physical looks and her intellect, in which case, Peggy is never going to change. She can't admit that she's wrong without trying to downplay it to a minor mistake. In her mind, she's always right. I always thought it would've been interesting if they'd actually done an episode where Peggy has to see a therapist to address these things, but the closest they ever got to addressing Peggy's mental problems were episodes like "A Rover Runs Through It" and "Peggy's Pageant Fever". I'm conflicted between hating Peggy and feeling sorry for her. She's pretentious and spiteful, but at the same time pathetic and desperate. It's interesting how a cartoon character can be so human; the flaws make them more relatable. As much as none of us want to admit it, we've probably all had a "Peggy" moment where we behaved or thought like she did.
John is not wrong for fcking nancy. Nancy is the one who betrayed dale not john. Shady is such a simp
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever why don’t you be the first and admit your own Peggy moment then?
She accurately portrays a narcissist, the longer you know them the worse they appear. The more they get confronted the worse they act.
@@brianaguilar8283 Alright - in my 1st year of college, I had a group project. I was a bigshot naive arts student, wanting to show off the skills and knowledge I thought I had. I took over the project like a jerk, and I got a low grade while the other group members got higher grades for leaving and doing their own thing. It was a stupid, pretentious and self-indulgent thing on my part, and most of my friends had done similar things in 1st year, because uni students let the prestige go to their heads. I never kidnapped a little girl from Mexico or punched Randy Travis, though. 😂
I just realized Luanne has Peggy's hair but longer. lol
Omg, where has this channel been all my life! I just subscribed and I'm loving it. Ty!!
I'd love to see a Buck Strickland video. Buck comes up a lot in peoples' "worst" lists, and there are many points where he's almost on par with Redcorn. He cheated on his wife, he's a deadbeat dad, he abandoned Bobby in a dark alleyway while he was gambling, and he's interfered in multiple relationships for Hank, with Bobby, Cotton and Luanne. And don't even get me started on the constant hitting on Luanne and the marriage proposal thing to her when he's old enough to be her grandfather. Redcorn's a douche, but not a pervert. I'm kind of torn between Buck and Redcorn as who is the worst character; Peggy can be awful at times, but there are implications that she had a bad childhood and mental issues that may be contributing to this, and she'll do the right thing once she realizes that she's made a mistake. Redcorn and Buck are just too selfish. The one time that Buck realizes that he's harmed Hank's reputation and tries to save him, somebody else has to remind him, and John Redcorn is deplorable for having multiple love children that he's abandoned throughout Arlen, with no concern for how this will affect them as he tries to worm his way back into their lives.
Don't forget Buck tried to, and got away with trying to, frame Hank for murder to protect his wife in "High Anxiety"
Also, from what I understand, John Redcorn didn't really abandon Joseph or Kate (the only two love children shown and known about) so much as just not know about Kate's existence and with Joseph the implication seems to be he just let Nancy and Dale raise Joseph, while remaining an unofficial part of his life. Not to say I don't get why people don't like him, I personally just don't care much because I see his whole existence as one long joke based around Dale's paranoia and the irony of him having a cheating wife. That, and Redcorn's ending of the relationship because he grew to respect Dale made me cut him _some_ slack, though his later behavior does muddy it quite a lot, such as "Spin The Choice" (though much later seasons I just ignore, since they outright ignore continuity, like the episode where Nancy loses her hair).
@@balanc-joy9187 That's true; there was at least a bit of character growth for Redcorn. Buck, not really. Redcorn grows up a lot after "Spin the Choice" (until the Big Mountain Fudgecake stuff and the rekindled affair), whereas Buck never changes much. The only reason he patches things up with Miss Liz is that the people around them lead to it, and immediately in the same episode, Buck tries to frame Hank and Miss Liz for murder.
I was under the impression that Redcorn had more than two children, but I could be wrong. I remember episodes where he was implied to have slept with groupies, and the "Harlottown" episode where he's implied to have been a porn actor, but looking back on it, I can't remember any other pregnancies being implied that he fathered, except for Kate. I might be confusing him with Buck and Ray-Roy.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever You _definitely_ need to re-watch the show. Redcorn is _never_ shown to have slept with groupies (he just worked as a roadie for a band, and Big Mountain Fudgecake never took off), or have been a porn actor.
As for Buck, he framed _Hank_ for murder to _protect_ Miz Liz, not himself, in fact, he was willing to go to jail himself to protect her once the frame-up didn't work. Of course, he was mistaken that Miz Liz did it in the first place, since Debbie accidentally killed herself, but still.
@@balanc-joy9187 I don't know... I was under the impression that in "Harlottown", when Redcorn is dressed up in a tuxedo and says he has a "gala" to attend that Hank interrupts, it was implying that he had either acted in porn when he was younger, or that he had worked in the industry somehow. The only people attending the Adult Video Awards who are dressed up fancy are the ones receiving the awards. As for Buck, he did frame Hank, and then later we see him and the sheriff pointing the finger quickly at various other parties, including Miss Liz, only to find out from the texas ranger that Debbie's death was in fact just an accident. Buck goes all the way in framing Hank, planting evidence and recording phrases that make Hank sound like the murderer.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever That seems pretty flimsy reasoning to me to assume Redcorn was heading to the Adult Video Awards, especially since he sees the actors in their car and immediately chooses to take Bobby. If he was involved somehow, wouldn't he say something or react differently then just cancel whatever plans he had once he understood some of what was going on? That, and he would've probably just said it, since everybody else didn't really hide or shy away from going. It didn't seem like to me he was even going there, since he would've probably just said it if he was, or been shown to be expected there. Just saying you could be right, but there isn't much to support that impression that sounds convincing to me.
As for "High Anxiety", again, you _really_ need to watch the episode again. The Sheriff does point the finger at Buck, then Miz Liz, then Buck falsely confesses to the murder to protect her. Buck only accuses Hank, with all of the things that you mention, and foolishly confesses that he "put the nametag in the bushes" and asks if they "got the tape", in order to try and push that Hank did it.
Thankfully, I found a video here that shows most of Buck's confession, though it starts after he first tries to accuse Hank-ruclips.net/video/z88Q9j6TdD8/видео.html
Man this episode I probably hated the most out of all the others in KotH, because not only that Peggy did not receive any backlash or receive consequences for her actions, but also this is my issue with this show's lack of consistency or continuity Lucky still never gotten his GED or even took it again.
what kind of backlash/consequences did you want? prison, revoking her ability to teach, force Peggy to divorce Hank to marry Lucky?
they're already ahead of the curve by having her realize she was wrong... that doesn't usually happen.
Lucky still married Luanne: the outcome she didn't want. Lucky now believes Peggy support the marriage and will be uncomfortably close to the Hills because of that belief. she was lightly punished in a creative way.
Watching your king of the hill series has been an adventure. More and more respect with each episode. Ill definitely be subscribing.
The media wasn't promoting single parent lives. They were just showing that there's no shame in it.
Just found this channel by the way and I'm watching a lot of the videos bit by bit
-nancy berates lucky
-bones john redcorn while married
There's one thing I WISH Nancy did to help make up to Dale. Have another kid with him. Dale raised JR's kid, unknowingly, during their marriage. It's sweet revenge when Joseph has a stronger bond to Dale than his real father, but Nancy could have mothered Dale's real kid. Plus, I'm curious how Joseph would be as a big brother
He’s probably infertile
@@brianaguilar8283 Considering his job....likely
@@MrMonochromatic or the fact that he’s a chain smoker
Won’t work, as Dale implied he’s saving his ‘essence’ to keep aliens from messing with his genetic code or something. It’s why Dale started realizing Joseph couldn’t be his son cause 1) he was scouting for aliens at the time and 2) he admitted he doesn’t normally ‘finish up’ in the act.
Only reason he comes around is realizing how much he loves Joseph and the idea aliens abducted him and impregnated Nancy that way…….. Dale is quite a character.
She doesn’t like him, she doesn’t even want him touching her.
I appreciate your channel and your content so much
Every time I watch the first part of the Episode where Peggy Jumps out of a plane and her parachute doesn't open, I always tell myself that was the series finale and everything else is non-canon XD
I always hated peggy , her and the wife on breaking bad were the worst
If you're gonna call yourself Hank Hill you can't think these things.
@@leephillips4402 yeah i know i was typin it thinkin like if i were to picture hank saying “i always hated peggy” would be nutty. But keep in mine my hank avatar has face tats and raps hes from another dimension and could possibly hate her i tell you what
Bro I COULDNT EVEN WATCH Breaking Bad because of her and the bullshit ass tension between them. How anyone can deal with that cringe is beyond me.
The only good thing Peggy ever did was fail a skydiving attempt and plummet the the ground
And she had the nerve to ruin even that by surviving
XD
I honestly felt like her skydiving accident was payment for all the bad s*** she did in the series
Easy there man, I hate her as much as the next guy but I wouldn’t wish death on her.
Cotton was right about her
@@bobbythotimus1184 this ☝️this right here!
And thank you reminding me of Cotton!
The episode where he died?! That woman is twisted and sick in the head and she doesn’t deserve hank OR bobby!
i always thought that scene where luanne is cleaning luckys truck was just so darn sweet like he never asked her or expected her to do that its just her showing her love and it makes her happy and lucky just wants luanne to be happy
I’m sorry... “that ONE time”???
She annoys me most episodes, wether it be how self centered she is, or the horrible things she does. If she doesn’t annoy the heck out of you Shady, then mad props man, you got way more tolerance than me. Lol
Shady has always found peggy funny me personally find her overconfidence and elitism funny
The Question is...Is Peggy a Karen?
Prolly tbh
Without a doubt
Abso-freaking-lutely!
I always wondered what's that thing on your avatars back
Looks like a drawing tablet pen.
Somebody finally said it
@Nick Flores May as well be a crayon with how badly that character is drawn. Yikes.
Thank you for making all these videos.
Hearing this guy rant about a show ive never heard about is weirdly fun
While I disagree with a lot of what Peggy has done, I still had the feeling at the end of the day that she still cared about her family and still wanted what was best for them in the end.
Totally. especially in "Goodbye Normal Jeans".
Wasn't there an episode where she got extremely jealous of Bobby and atole the Thanksgiving dinner? That was arguably Peggy at her worst.
@@irvinmorales1409 Peggy is always at her worst. Even when she’s faced with the threat of prison and is being told by actual Spanish speakers that her Spanish sucks, she refuses to admit her Spanish is terrible.
There was also that one episode where she thinks she’s visiting a former student in prison and is stupid enough to smuggle in drugs for him, and she bullies Hank for being rightfully skeptical.
I've seen a lot of women like Peggy - they may care - but they want what THEY think is best. Not what someone else does. And woe betide anyone who disagrees.
Not really a great quality.
it seems like that until she throws them under the bus over and over again.
“I got me my settlement check.” Such a great line!!
Shady! Your KOTH commentary is the best on the internet. Thanks for the content bro!
What people don't understand about the traditional family unit is that it's the optimal way to raise kids, of course it goes out the window if the parents suck but it is still better to have 2 parents
I know it was strange that the episode did not mention that lucky can retake it. It would have made the episode more interesting to have that option I believe towards the end of the episode.
And Given Peggy a redemption arc by letting her fix her sabotage
From what I've heard, the show was intended by the writers to have more arc-focused ideas, like Peggy's skydiving, the attempt to get pregnant, etc. but the executives demanded they stop that after the first couple seasons that they did it.
Because the plot demanded it I guess
I came for the BoJack stayed for the King of the Hill
Found your channel and I can’t stop watching your going to be one of those channels I have to rewatch all your content cause I watched it already ahahahah.
Keep up the great content my friend :)
You have got to do more of these King of the Hill videos! These are great!