Eight Drunken Immortals Boxing
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- Eight Immortals Boxing is generally associated with drunken kungfu.
I don't know the origins of these forms or where they are from. However I can tell you that both video were taken in the mid 1980's. The first was filmed in Hubei province, I think in the southern part of the province near Wuhan although I'm not certain. The second video was filmed in either northern Zhejiang or Jiangsu and the teacher in question was a local master of Cha Quan.
It is relatively rare to find a master of traditional Eight Immortals Boxing. While the Eight Immortals styles while never particularly common in any area, various "Eight Immortals" systems were found all across China.
While virtually all eight immortal systems contain "drunken" elements they vary greatly in emphasis from practiced in a straightforward sober manner such as this to the more obvious staggering drunken steps throughout. But even the most "drunken" of the traditional eight immortal styles will have many sober moves interspersed through their forms. Conversely even in a fairly "sober" eight immortals style there will be a few drunken moves.
However most drunken forms whether linked to the 8 immortals or not are simply found as supplementary material in a different system of boxing.
This seems to be the standard pattern in China. Styles will often have one or a couple drunken boxing and sometimes weapons sets added on near the end of their curriculum.
These are meant to teach techniques, skills, and ways of moving and generating power which break the rules of normal boxing. This includes using methods which throw the weight intentionally off balance or break the body structure and alignment in ways which are normally forbidden in most styles. This allows drunken practitioners to move and dodge in unexpected ways and to generate power and strike from unexpected angles.
Aside from using off balanced movements to throw weight and generate power, drunken boxing also uses various less common methods of alignment to connect into the ground and generate leverage while appearing off balanced and misaligned.
One common feature of Eight Immortals Boxing systems is their mimicry of traditional elements from the stories of each of the Taoist Eight Immortals. These elements are often instantly recognizable to Chinese people who have grown up with the stories. Examples would be the limping steps of Li Tieguai "Iron Crutch Li", Han Xiangzi playing his flute, or Lan Caihe carrying his flower basket. Some Eight Immortal styles will have a complete form dedicated to each of the Eight Immortals.
But as mentioned previously, pure eight immortals systems are very rare. Most eight immortal boxing comes in the forms of a few sets contained in a larger style and meant to serve as expansions of skill for somewhat advanced practitioners of the system.
Thanks for the video, this is one of the last remnants to mysticism of kung fu. The eight immortals are veiled in the movements of many styles. Though drunken movements are considered passive, they are really the ultimate marriage of the internal and external aspects of kung fu. Water can float, yet also capsizes boats.
私の大きなペニスを吸う maybe the 5 elements kung fu style I doubt anyone teaches it
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I have been wanting to see this for a long time. Thanks for posting.
1:42 "damn my back!"
nice video!
Jackie Chan made this style famous
Much respect to the Senior Citizen but moves like he is on early 20's
My eyes have exploded from too much awesome.
The different manifestations of Eight Drunken Immortals are always interesting to see and compare. Thanks for sharing.
Book on the Drunken Eight Immortals:
The Path of Drunken Boxing Book Preview
This Guy must star in Blockbuster Gong Fu Movies!
Nice to Tsui Pa Hsien Chuan set 🤗especially by Elder Sifu’s/ Sigung 💥💕😬
Haha I am hanging back. I also wanted to use those vids. But anyway thanks for putting them up.Is it okay if I reuse your edited version ? I always wanted to research a bit on the different "creation Myths" of the styles. I remember who I read a story some years ago that the 8 Immortals were invited to a underwater kingdom to a banquet and at the banquet trouble broke out and to defend themself they had to devolp that style. Because their other styles didnt worked well enough..Or somehow like..
This video is ancient and my style is style for being in a weak position and when I’ve taken a lot of damage in fighting so I used it a alot
This is a totally different "8 Immortals Drunken form" than tought by Leung Ting
(Hong Kong).
Maybe you're teached by a different family then his
you're mistaken. most of this looks identical to the form shown in Dr. Leung Ting's book "The Drunkard Kung Fu and it's Application", what differences there are could likely be attributed to either the age of the practitioner causing them to forget the order of the sequence or have to amend the sequence to get around a move their body can't really do anymore, or can be attributed to learning the style through a different lineage, Lee Family style versus Wang Family style or whatever.
If i had any idea where my copy of Dr. Ting's book was, i'd pull it out and start naming moves in sequence and listing timestamps for you. if this isn't Ting's exact style, it's a sister style from the same general lineage. roughly the same moveset, same grounded traditional movement style compared to the wudang version jackie chan used or the shaolin wushu version. same philosophy of movement, feeling like it's moving between the soft and flowing circles of tai chi and the explosive drilling fist of Xing Yi Quan/Hsing I Chuan, if i use unrelated styles as comparisons.
I've always preferred the Wudang Bronze Hall variations of the 8 drunken immortals style, like the style seen in Jackie chan's Drunken Master, though i prefer the more grounded Lau Family Style that was taught by Sifu Troy Dunwood. when dunwood did drunken, it wasn't over the top and flowery like shaolin wushu or to a lesser extent the more peking opera style show form that jackie chan used. it seemed to use the same general moveset but with forms organized a bit differently, and it was realistic. more grounded, like the version in this video, but with more power in it's movements. dunwood doing drunken doesn't look like someone doing flowery wushu pretending to be performatively drunk, he looks like the guy you walk past on the sidewalk at 2 am down the street from a bar that just let out, like he's had a little too much to drink and is walking home, very light and lethargic swaying, a very occasional stumble/stagger, and loose slightly heavy hands. if you lost a fight to dunwood, you wouldn't think "Wow that guy was a drunken kung fu master", you'd think "Wow, that drunk dude just beat the brakes off me".
I will, but before that i have to finish a Shaolin Meihua Qiang vid which lies unfinished on my youtube for some time
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That shifu is limber as a snake
At the ground level he warmed up, so also he has constellation of relationships unresolved and is dragged by women like a bad of potatoes!!! Wow. In USA I have seen better.
He looks weak, bended over, and stiff, and his 'being ok with it' is rather undewhelming in easiness to and from bodily postural changes, his back if not possible to streighten? Is that you need a physician, that you are showing it, as at that age and level of therefore profficiency - self expects a Sifu, not an aged male whose years of practice seemed to destroy his shape instead of becoming undeafitable.