the deepest dive into haley from stardew valley

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • join me on an inconveniently deep dive into haley from stardew valley!
    this is the fifth video in my stardew valley romance deep dive series. subscribe to catch the next one!
    all gameplay footage is my own. all music (except transitions) is from the stardew valley ost.
    sources:
    stardewvalleywiki.com/Haley
    stardewvalleywiki.com/Emily
    www.stardewvalley.net/dev-upd...
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    0:00 intro
    2:07 intro to haley
    12:20 2 hearts
    25:27 4 hearts
    30:25 6 hearts
    36:17 8 hearts
    50:34 dating
    51:59 10 hearts
    1:00:33 marriage
    1:05:08 14 hearts
    1:13:14 summit / divorce
    1:15:23 outro
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  • @fionasangster
    @fionasangster  4 месяца назад +261

    hey guys!! first of all thank u for the patience, i have been moving house this week so didnt manage to upload until now. i always watch the videos like 5 times in full before i upload and its hard to do that when you're hauling a wardrobe up some stairs. but i hope you enjoy

    • @koughnut0520
      @koughnut0520 4 месяца назад +1

      Wow congrats on the wedding!
      PLEASE take your time burnout is a bitch 😅💛

    • @zukamimotu..2071
      @zukamimotu..2071 4 месяца назад +9

      Every video is worth the wait. Wish you the best with the wedding and everything else going on!

    • @Boba_Baggins
      @Boba_Baggins 4 месяца назад +2

      Congrats on moving and gifting the Mermaid's Pendant irl! Take all the time you need! These videos are worth the wait.
      I answered your poll! But if I might suggest, maybe you make a second series, another video for each character after 1.6 🙊 A big ask! But if you already had the scripts done, and you wouldnt have to spoil the game for yourself……….… 😂 Selfishly i just want as many videos like this as possible 💕

    • @atomicdiamondx
      @atomicdiamondx 3 месяца назад

      First off... Congratulations on moving and the wedding!!! If only planning weddings were as simple as in Stardew! :D I am happy that you were able to release a video at all with everything going on, but, really appreciate the update. :) I hope everything goes as smooth as possible -- make sure you're taking care of yourself first!
      I think your comment on making a big long video is the perfect opportunity to incorporate any 1.6 information that might have been missed. I am guessing at this point that your present analysis of the characters is not going to change much overall, and that any new information you can glean from the dialogue will just serve to further, not contradict, your current content.

    • @storeboughtramonaflowers
      @storeboughtramonaflowers 3 месяца назад

      congrats on all the irl progress

  • @Josie-if8lj
    @Josie-if8lj 4 месяца назад +980

    I’ve also seen theories that the reason Haley hates prismatic shard is because Emily loves all gems and it’s a gem. So she hates it because she associates it with her sister. (Which is similar to her fruits and vegetables being hated while Emily is very health conscious)

    • @alannar6189
      @alannar6189 4 месяца назад +141

      As someone who has being overshadowed by way of gifts, I think she hates the prismatic shard on principle because it’s a gem and gems are Emily’s thing. She’s the younger sister and doesn’t want to just be known as “oh just Emily’s sister” and it’s important to her to be an individual. Of someone gives you a gift that they would also give your sibling, it feels like they are not taking the time to actually know and care about your likes and dislikes, and therefore they aren’t going to put in the effort to their relationship with you. It’s not that she hates it because she hates her sister, she hates it because she doesn’t want to be her sister in your mind.

    • @rowanwax
      @rowanwax 4 месяца назад +6

      Hmmm, then why does she like diamonds?

    • @alannar6189
      @alannar6189 4 месяца назад +68

      @@rowanwax diamonds are less classically used as a crystal and are more used for jewelry, maybe hee grandmothers bracelet has a diamond in it

    • @alani_videoeria
      @alani_videoeria 4 месяца назад +2

      Omg yesss this makes so much sense and is gonna be my head canon now

    • @HopelessJester
      @HopelessJester 4 месяца назад +17

      Wasnt there a line where she says she doesnt like things that are prettier than her, and thats why she doesnt like it? I feel like i remember this but cant go researching it atm

  • @NoThoughtsJustFloof
    @NoThoughtsJustFloof 4 месяца назад +910

    Something I love about the 8 heart scene is that, even though Haley is getting a love for nature and animals...they're not her cows.They're not even *my* cows. She basically trespasses onto poor Marnie's land to play with her livestock! I know the game couldn't make that scene wait til we had cows, but I love how that little detail almost accidentally shows off how Haley still thinks of the world in quite a simple way, even as she grows up more. Haley wants to ride a cow? She's going to ride a cow.

    • @joselinlissethgaldamez3667
      @joselinlissethgaldamez3667 4 месяца назад +14

      you had a haley 8 heart event before your had cows? thats crazy

    • @NoThoughtsJustFloof
      @NoThoughtsJustFloof 4 месяца назад +88

      @@joselinlissethgaldamez3667 what can I say? I was down bad for the sunflower girl 💛

    • @catfacethemole9551
      @catfacethemole9551 3 месяца назад +3

      @@NoThoughtsJustFloof When are you getting cows?! I get them on spring 1 I thought that was normal xD

    • @sari9645
      @sari9645 3 месяца назад +4

      @@catfacethemole9551I didn’t get them till the beginning of year 2!

  • @mushroompoet
    @mushroompoet 3 месяца назад +217

    the "maybe it'll wash up on another shore" line in her six heart event is what made me start loving haley. i think it says a lot about her that she's not Only upset that the bracelet isn't hers anymore. instead, if it's gone *she wants someone else to have it*. if this special thing that brings her joy is gone, she hopes that instead of laying unloved at the bottom of the ocean, someone else will be able to love it like she did. and i dunno, that just says something about her

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  3 месяца назад +38

      ooh love this analysis!! she really does have more depth than she’s given credit for

    • @mushroompoet
      @mushroompoet 3 месяца назад +4

      @@fionasangster truly she's incredible. I'm glad you saw this, I'm so obsessed with that line and I've never seen anyone talk about it

  • @_frogerino
    @_frogerino 3 месяца назад +281

    in the 1.6 update, she has a new diaglogue during green rain where she is taking shelter in the saloon and she says she’s never been in here before but it’s cosier then she expected

  • @lindsaydawson6843
    @lindsaydawson6843 4 месяца назад +531

    In my opinion, Haley hates the prismatic shard BECAUSE everyone else loves it. It’s a trend, and Haley doesn’t want to be trendy. She wants to set trends.
    Also, Haley loves clothes and Emily loves making clothes. Haley would have had to have been a model and/or mannequin for her sister at some point. I also think the dialog about saving the seagull at the beach is interesting, because it mirror Emily saving the parrot during her 6 heart event.
    As for the Flower Dance, it is a fertility rite, but it also shows all of the eligible bachelors and bachelorettes at the same time, which can be handy if you’re a new player. There are other single people there, but they don’t participate. (It breaks my heart every year that Marlon doesn’t ask Marnie to dance. She deserves so much better.)

    • @kaitlynmorgan4613
      @kaitlynmorgan4613 3 месяца назад +13

      no, she follows fashion trends. the theory is believe is that since emily loves all gems (as well as fruit), haley doesnt like it. whatever emily likes, haley wont like. though diamonds are an exception bc ig "diamonds are a girls best friend" or because ppl love it in jewelry (especially wedding rings, though pelican town uses a pendant)

    • @char932
      @char932 3 месяца назад +30

      @@kaitlynmorgan4613 this theory doesn't really work though, since she does like basically every other gem besides prismatic shard

    • @smcp01
      @smcp01 Месяц назад +4

      Could just be that she thinks it looks tacky...

    • @princesskaraplays905
      @princesskaraplays905 21 день назад +11

      i always thought it was because she’s not as superficial deep down as she presents herself, at the end of the day the girl is mildly traumatised by her parents “going on vacation” aka disappearing, she’s coming into herself as an adult, (the following is in my head canon) she like alex is mlm, she’s wlw coming into her sexuality and discovering herself along side that, although like alex & haley functionally are playersexual, she’s just figuring out her sexuality now the new farmer has come to town & is also trying to intentionally create distance from anyone who isn’t her good friend so she doesn’t get hurt again if they left like her parents, idk i just don’t see her as all that superficial deep down

  • @Peachysodabum
    @Peachysodabum 4 месяца назад +590

    As an American…I thought that business tax joke was funny because honestly education suffers in the states because taxes don’t go where they should. In Stardew’s case, Lewis makes a gold statue of himself instead of getting the kids new books…

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  3 месяца назад +129

      ............ is there actually a gold statue of lewis. have i missed that somehow

    • @FenrirInFlowers
      @FenrirInFlowers 3 месяца назад +112

      ​@@fionasangster - Yes. Secret note 19 leads you to the statue behind Lewis's house. You can stick it around town to mess with Lewis.

    • @lowkeyfeliks7687
      @lowkeyfeliks7687 3 месяца назад +114

      @@fionasangster He collects taxes from every business in Pelican Town once a week except yours. He sends you money in the mail sometimes from "the agricultural fund" (I'm convinced he skims some off the top for himself). He has a solid gold statue of himself that you can put somewhere in the town and if you do it disappears the next day and you get an unsigned letter asking you not to spill his secrets with a 750G bribe. The man definitely runs some sort of money laundering scheme.

  • @Tuvella1
    @Tuvella1 4 месяца назад +367

    totally agree about the 10 hearts scene.
    So many things indicate that you shouldn't go for the kiss. I think that scene has a poor understanding of the female perspective. if a woman is alone in a tiny dark room with someone there must be a lot of hints that the mood is supposed to be romantic or it comes across super creepy,

    • @ladyking_thee
      @ladyking_thee 2 месяца назад +52

      Honestly, the whole of how Haley's written gave me massive One Man Sitting Alone In A Room vibes before I even knew it was Eric sitting alone in a room writing her

    • @Tuvella1
      @Tuvella1 5 дней назад +2

      also as a ~gay~ and a ~woman~ it was annoying to me 'cause I though I was doing the right thing but the game ended up shaming me! idk it felt unfair(I'm rewatching this video. Haley is my fave

    • @kyumu
      @kyumu 5 дней назад

      ​@@Tuvella1 as a ✨ gay man ✨ she is also my fave

  • @_marsbars_
    @_marsbars_ 3 месяца назад +300

    an example of on of those ‘morality questions’ i don’t like is one of penny’s heart events 💀 she tries to help george get his mail but literally PUSHES HIS WHEELCHAIR WITHOUT ASKING and instead of telling her off you have to either take her side or find a middle ground and it ends with george apologizing for overreacting which pisses me off 😭😭😭

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  3 месяца назад +114

      that was one of the things that made me wanna make this series lmao, pissed me off so much too

    • @samster9370
      @samster9370 3 месяца назад +3

      yuh he was overreacting

    • @skyboy4341
      @skyboy4341 3 месяца назад

      George's a racist tho

    • @evintyde
      @evintyde 3 месяца назад +75

      I've used a wheelchair for 20 years now, and that scene made my blood absolutely boil and put me off Penny for the rest of the game 😅

    • @CherryHotSauce
      @CherryHotSauce 2 месяца назад +22

      I have a mod that fixes that. It’s called “(CP) Penny’s 2 heart event edit - don’t touch wheelchairs.” On nexus mods

  • @maybelater2160
    @maybelater2160 4 месяца назад +298

    I always sort of assumed that the "plastic shoes" line was referring to the farmer wearing wellingtons and she just has no idea what they are. So I guess the makeup version could be similar - Haley's worldview view just does not encompass function over fashion at all

  • @Jadisons
    @Jadisons 4 месяца назад +138

    Finally Haley lovers get the recognition we deserve

  • @squigman
    @squigman 3 месяца назад +47

    The same thing happened to me, I read the “try to kiss her” option as creepy so I didn’t pick it and I had to quit and restart the day because I didn’t want the scene to be messed up

  • @PolarBearBlue
    @PolarBearBlue 4 месяца назад +201

    Of all the Haley deep dives I've seen, this is now my favorite. It's offered some good new perspectives towards her character and I'm happy to meet another Haley stan.
    One thing I want to add in defense of her 4 heart event (people seem to really hate it) is that the early game of Stardew encourages doing Help Wanted quests. For seasoned players they can speedrun marriage even before the third week of Spring. But if you take your time playing you've likely done tons of these quests before getting to Haley's 4 heart event. Which means you established yourself as a dependable and helpful person in the town. You probably walked into the sisters house to FULFILL one of their quest. So to Haley, you opening that jar is just normal. Like "Oh you got me that sea cucumber I asked for yesterday! Well since you are here can you also do this thing for me?" And your response to her question can be read as you either understanding and accepting your role, or tryna get outta tasks these villagers can't be bothered to do.
    So when she says she is surprised at your strength it can also be read as annoying to the player, because "Um, I slay slimes and ghost for money every week. I mine, chop, and fish for my nown resources. I manage a labor intensive, giant farm without a tractor every day from sun up to sun down. What do you mean you are surprised I am strong?"
    To take it further if you look at the "wrong" answer for her 14 heart event, it can be seen as a callback to her 4 heart event. You answer in a way to express you really don't want to do something these villagers can do themselves, but Haley forces you anyway. But whereas before Haley asks you because it's just kinda what you are known as (the helpful farmer), now she is making sure you are still involved with your community. Which I think is nice since by this point you've automated the farm completely and probably haven't look at the board or bothered attending a festival in a while.

  • @kythefry5738
    @kythefry5738 4 месяца назад +207

    My theory is that Hailey thinks prismatic shards are tacky 😅 she likes other gems but maybe she thinks all of the colors together clash so she doesn't like it, no matter how rare/expensive it is.

  • @cass6020
    @cass6020 3 месяца назад +82

    I would read further into the line about not needing you for pickles anymore as being away to show you that she doesn't just think of you as someone who can do her chores for her so she can avoid it. After watching the fight with Emily, she's probably a little embarrassed to be seen as lazy and childish, and the tool for the jar seems pretty symbolic to me

  • @melsy94
    @melsy94 4 месяца назад +173

    The headcanon I've seen most often on why Haley hates prismatic shards is because there are too many colours in it - it 'clashes' with everything unless your room is a rainbow.
    I romanced Haley out of spite at first, but ended up falling in love with her, especially as a spouse. She grows so much, and it's just adorable when she says she fed the animals or watered the crops for you. Sweetie, we have sprinklers and autofeeders, but I love the enthusiasm. She's also just so cute (maybe I'm superficial too lol) - that wide-eyed sprite steals my heart, and seeing her blush feels like an accomplishment. Like this girl who was so confident in herself is blushing because of YOU! That's a big deal!
    But yes, I also love my rude wife, and can't wait to see Harvey next!

  • @FenrirInFlowers
    @FenrirInFlowers 3 месяца назад +80

    I love Haley! Her and Leah are my favorite bachelorettes. They're the ones I most actively befriend in the game.
    I adore Haley's arc. She opens herself up to new experiences, connects to people around her, and becomes one of the most conscientious people in town. Yet, she doesn't lose her entire personality. She remains sassy and assertive.
    I get where you're coming from about her 10 heart event getting muddled by mixed signals. I suspect that Concerned Ape was going for her playing coy during that moment rather than being openly blushing. The pauses seem like she could be dragging out the "Um" and "anyway." Round the eyes and purse the lips, and the expression would read as coy. It feels like a case of using a portrait to double for multiple purposes, but it not quite being close enough to work for everyone. The pursed lips would have helped convey the flirting and desire to be kissed. "Try to kiss her" does sound more questionable about her consent, and it adds to the confusion for sure.
    Her 14 heart event is really wholesome and among my favorites.

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  3 месяца назад +10

      interesting point about the portraits!! v plausible

  • @gumdropgardens
    @gumdropgardens 4 месяца назад +64

    'Ealey and Himily' was actually really nice to the ears ty

  • @EmL-kg5gn
    @EmL-kg5gn 4 месяца назад +61

    100% agree with you about the 10 heart scene especially about her facial expression!! It’s good that the 8 heart scene includes her interest too. Also agree about blunt vs rude vs mean.
    About the 4 heart scene - we know Hayley is blunt, or framed more positively she’s honest. After all the hard work you do around the farm you’ll definitely be strong so I think the reason saying yes gives friendship points is because she values honesty. I think to her it’s just another fact, like how you’re not fashionable (but are still pretty) or don’t always smell good. The reason saying no loses hearts could just be because she sees it as dishonest, rather than humble. Or maybe also because if you can open the jar even though you’re not strong, you’re insulting her by implication? But I think it’s more about honesty.
    If I’m right in assuming the best about concerned ape’s intentions honesty could also be the point/intent behind the 10 heart scene??? Like she wants you to be straightforward about your intentions? That would be more consistent with her character but the way it’s written definitely doesn’t sit right.
    Also she’s sisters with Emily, I read their conflict as sibling bickering and caused by different preferences rather than one being right or wrong. I actually assumed Emily saying she just wanted to marry a rich man was kinda mean tbh, rather than a truthful statement. Until the 2 heart scene there’s no reason to think she’s messy, you’d expect the opposite. I think Hayley prefers to prevent mess so she doesn’t have to clean while Emily likes to make sure everything’s clean with a routine. Which would lead to Emily doing more work.

    • @EmL-kg5gn
      @EmL-kg5gn 4 месяца назад +10

      I also think some people don’t consider how hard it could be for someone with her personality in a small town. Like in her 14 heart scene where she organises a charity event but George dismissively asks if it’s for a new purse. It’s no surprise that she didn’t try to be nice at first if that’s representative of how people see her… I think she’s very creative, she’s obviously gone to a lot of effort to decorate her room in her own style, but people read it as superficial. I also think the player going out of their way to live a lifestyle that was kind of a default choice for others around her prompts her to appreciate things she took for granted. Also for her the city is a fun place where she goes shopping and can find clothes that suit her self-expression, it makes sense that she wanted to live there. Maybe she didn’t know what it was actually like for most people who live there until now? Or just hadn’t considered the downsides?
      About the prismatic shard, I never thought much about it but it could tie into what you said about her independence. She has a particular aesthetic and they don’t really fit. Maybe it’s a matter of do you really think I’ll like it just because everything else does? Like do you even know me? I also like what someone else said about Emily and gems, that makes a lot of sense

  • @Possumbreath
    @Possumbreath 2 месяца назад +58

    This is why my favorite rarepair is Haley/Leah. Imagine the two art girls hanging out and talking about self expression and applying to galleries together. Ouuughhh. Haley is my favorite female marriage option thank you for doing her justice

  • @lilaott6495
    @lilaott6495 4 месяца назад +119

    i can only read emily with your voice, you’re quickly becoming my favorite person to watch

  • @gumdropgardens
    @gumdropgardens 4 месяца назад +42

    "I'm a farmer now, too" 🥺🥺🥺

    • @gumdropgardens
      @gumdropgardens 4 месяца назад +1

      Girly pop is reading quite autistic to me. I will absolutely admit I'm possibly projecting.

  • @megatrashlord235
    @megatrashlord235 4 месяца назад +193

    I saw someone make a headcanon that Haley was Autistic. And like I know that wasn't the intention at all with her character but like... I kinda get it

    • @KysEcstacy
      @KysEcstacy 22 дня назад

      Ive always seen Haley and Alex as autistic, i dont even precieve alex as rude because im autistc and read it all in a literal sense lmao

    • @Rileytherealest
      @Rileytherealest 4 дня назад +2

      Her special interest is fashion

  • @Drambrarcer
    @Drambrarcer 2 месяца назад +20

    15:05 Hi, I'm a programmer. We usually call these remembered pieces of information "variables", and for games in particular when we use them to decide how the narrative goes we call them "flags". Flag would be the word to use for this purpose. Parameter is actually a fairly more technical word describing how one piece of code receives the data from another, but it's not your fault, it's a common misconception.
    A more minor nitpick but for anyone interested in some basic programming, "string" just refers to the 'type' of data saved. Instead of a "yes/no" or "true/false" choice (called a boolean), a string variable stores a text input letter by letter. Things like your farm name, pet name and Favorite Thing are saved as strings. You probably wouldn't actually use a string for decisions like Elliot's genre, you'd just record the index of the choice (1, 2 or 3) as an integer (number). Or in languages that have an "enumeration" feature, you could have certain code words (such as the genre name) stand in for those numbers in your code for the sake of readability, without spending extra processing power on checking every letter of that text one by one like you would if you used a string.
    It doesn't actually take a long time to check that, but data-type is still a decision we're taught to make carefully because a few milliseconds here and there do add up when you have to process a thousand of something while the user is waiting.

  • @CrowLady0_0
    @CrowLady0_0 4 месяца назад +27

    19:09 this is why i really like the George cutscene you get when you do the 12 leeks quest for evelyn. all 3 answers seem like they could be right, but each one gives a very different scene!

  • @atomicdiamondx
    @atomicdiamondx 3 месяца назад +22

    You offered an awesome perspective on dialogue choice that I hadn't considered before. Even if ConcernedApe decides to never further alter the dialogue, there is a massive community of modders for Stardew -- some of which include developing additional/altered dialogue -- that could potentially make the characters more immersive based on your analysis videos. I think your ideas have tons of potential to be valuable to the Stardew community, and as always, I definitely appreciate that you've taken time out of your incredibly busy schedule to offer an in-depth analysis on each character.
    I love the idea of giving both agency to the character, as well as the player, and Haley seems like the perfect character to demonstrate what that could look like in her heart scenes. Even though I agree that her dialogue choices could be better, I do adore her progression.
    I also enjoyed your perspective with divorced Haley -- I wondered if she just moved on because she never cared about you that much in the first place, but what you said makes more sense, because I think she'd still be spiteful/mean of being divorced if she had decided to revert back to that hollow shell. I think it also works because in a bunch of ways, she's the opposite of Emily -- between gemstones, food, etc. So, to me, it tracks that: When you meet Haley, she's used to hiding her true self -- when you meet Emily, she's used to being expressive and open. When you divorce Haley, she's open-minded, and when you divorce Emily, she closes herself off.
    Thanks again for your deep-dive on Haley! I'm looking forward to your big compilation video! xo

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  3 месяца назад

      thank you for the wonderful feedback! ❤️

  • @1lina9
    @1lina9 Месяц назад +17

    fully agree on the 10 heart scene fiasco. i also picked the “wrong” option and i was so confused afterwards 😭😭 it just seems creepy to me, yk? and the thing is, considering her life and background you could assume she’s been in a lot of situations like that before, where maybe she didn’t realize someone was being creepy towards her but it actually was since she never explicitly consented. and maybe since she’s still kind of “young” and “sheltered” she didn’t understand that? and maybe the farmer showing that it’s not right to kiss someone in a dark enclosed room without their permission could help her realize that maybe she actually did prefer decorating the room over the kissing? and maybe after they finish decorating she apologizes for being annoyed and then she asks for/initiates the kiss? i think that would be a great way to handle that scene and add very important subtext to her life in general

    • @princesskaraplays905
      @princesskaraplays905 21 день назад +2

      that’s a lot of assumptions, your already dating her by 10 hearts, to even see that scene you have to have given her a bouquet, the kiss seems natural and she makes the hint that it’s what she wants
      besides the fact that she grew up in stardew valley which doesn’t have a lot of residents & i doubt she’s been alone in a dark room with someone in zuzu city 🤷🏻‍♀️ also her darkroom for photography was almost brand new during the 10 heart cutscene right? if i recall correctly she makes a point to say “what do you think of my new darkroom” at the start of the cutscene so it’s not like it would have happened with another villager in the darkroom, i have serious doubts she’s overly used to creeps but i don’t doubt she’s encountered them, but the thing she seems more traumatised by is her parents being gone 🤷🏻‍♀️ i’d imagine a girl who’s been sexually assaulted biggest trauma would be that if it had happened

    • @1lina9
      @1lina9 20 дней назад +2

      @@princesskaraplays905 again, i think that would be a good way to handle it and add subtext to her character, so yes i am assuming-more like creating fanfiction. personally, i think if they went that route with her event it would mean a lot, say a lot, and do a lot. but also i didn't specifically mean things have happened to her in that dark room, or dark rooms in general, just her experiences in life. most characters in SV have something to say about their past, i've always felt like there should've been more with haley's, and this could've been a good way of handling not only her arc, but also a very important issue in general.
      also a dark room is a very delicate place, the slightest thing can ruin a photo, if i was her i would not want to be doing all that in there 😭😭

    • @princesskaraplays905
      @princesskaraplays905 15 дней назад +2

      @@1lina9 i can agree with you :) it makes sense to me, a lot of what i said i try to base in facts but some of it may be my headcanon mistaking itself as fact, i have no doubt haley has encountered creeps especially outside the darker rooms (i can think of 3 in the valley of the top of my head, lewis, clint & pierre, because fuck pierre)
      also yeah i can’t imagine wanting to kiss someone in a dark room 😂 but it’s stardew logic, we can enter a girls dreams, i think kissing in the dark room is the least weird thing, hell even with haley the weirder thing is then end of her 8 heart event “im gonna go take a shower” bitch where 😭 we don’t have bathrooms in the valley

    • @1lina9
      @1lina9 15 дней назад

      @@princesskaraplays905 LMFAO, real. i mean yeah, i don't think anything in haley's story now hints towards sexual trauma, but if it did-and was handled well-it would be good representation. i just crave good representation for this kind of stuff in media cuz its so rare, ykkkk! so that's why i have a tendency to read into characters like this, sometimes longing for the missed opportunities of what could've been 😭

  • @eebatron8266
    @eebatron8266 4 месяца назад +61

    ive always poerceived haley as just a straight... air-head? so yeah, she's self-centered, but whenever i read the "mean" lines i always heard them more of just her being..... "blonde", not even realizing she's being mean

    • @chaoticenbybard6699
      @chaoticenbybard6699 4 месяца назад +5

      Right I also thought she was weird too "like why are you smelling me"

  • @battlebardart
    @battlebardart 4 месяца назад +51

    I saw this pop up and quite literally yelled out "Oh Let's fuckin' GOOOOOOO.
    Absolutely adoring your videos and your style! Thank you for making these and can't wait to see more!

  • @naki051
    @naki051 4 месяца назад +43

    First the love of my life Elliott AND my mean wife Haley?? You're the best omg

  • @Unicus_Felicus
    @Unicus_Felicus 4 месяца назад +73

    51:07 " I don't care if they arrest, I'm gonna keep defending Haley."
    OMG! I love your humour! 😂

  • @Eva_R966
    @Eva_R966 4 месяца назад +22

    Omg the cody ko cameo felt like you were reading my mind

  • @annepandesal
    @annepandesal 4 месяца назад +24

    haley stans rise up 🙌 loving and defending her till the end of time
    i love your deep dives !! i think its so fun to see that yes on the surface she and her sister are opposites, like looking at their likes dislikes etc. but really theyre quite similar in the way that they are both sure of themselves as a person but realizing that they could find people who bring them happiness and help them grow in a way. learning to be more open to other people
    aww its a shame she and alex dont see each other as potential friends for real, i like to think they are however in canon, yeah 😔. it would be cute if she wanted to ecpand her horizons too and explore his interests and he hers as you get closer to her
    appreciating her character more so and seeing another perspective (which i find myself doing through all your deep dives :3) and yeah !! shes rude and blunt, not particularly mean
    acts of service :D
    lmfao her telling you to sleep in the dog house >:/ i love her ♡♡♡
    the community reference pfft. also yeah her 10-heart scene...that was.. whew
    her divorce line ough ... :') oh haley 🥺

    • @lqmons
      @lqmons 4 месяца назад +3

      MY PEOPLE!!

  • @cass6020
    @cass6020 22 дня назад +4

    The cake walk event makes me really want to see some permanent schedule changes based on your spouse (although I don't know what some of them like Penny would change). Can you imagine an annual cake walk? Monthly boys gridball night and Emily visiting Sandy? Or an annual spouse event like going to a game, going to a concert, visiting the beach, etc.

    • @swordboii
      @swordboii 21 день назад +2

      It’s not as much of an event but the closest thing I can think of is Abigail visits the mines on rainy days after her 10 heart cutscene!

  • @m.m.davidson1299
    @m.m.davidson1299 3 месяца назад +10

    For the 4 hearts scene, if u respond no to being strong I feel like it could also be taken as Haley not liking your lack of self confidence! Then going on to make u prove yourself wrong

  • @RazorRevenge
    @RazorRevenge 4 месяца назад +37

    I can’t wait for Shane 💜

    • @koughnut0520
      @koughnut0520 4 месяца назад +5

      Sameee 😭
      I think she said he'll be last though 😫

  • @Idontgiveaduck
    @Idontgiveaduck 4 месяца назад +19

    Girl, I just had probably one of the worst days in a long time. Seeing this pop up as soon as I opened youtube put the biggest smile on my face. Your videos always make me smile and just breathe for an hour. You have no idea who I am but having this hour to listen to you talk about stardew was just what I needed. You are a wonderful content creator, congratulations on your upcoming wedding and your move. ❤

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  4 месяца назад +6

      aw this warms my heart! hope you have a better day today ❤️

  • @hambone.fakenamington
    @hambone.fakenamington 4 месяца назад +16

    i really like how you always match the character’s you’re talking about, it’s very cute and I really like your sweater vest this vid! perfect choice ☁️☀️

  • @Jusuuw
    @Jusuuw 4 месяца назад +10

    I instantly fell in love with Haley when I saw her! And then it turned out that she would be one of the best choices to go to.
    Love your videos, found you 2 days ago and i watched all of your videos and i'm so happy that you uploaded a new one so soon!♥

  • @HamiGirl1
    @HamiGirl1 4 месяца назад +14

    i love haley :] I really appreciate her depth, and i also just think it's funny when characters are just so bluntly rude to us LOL
    HARVEY!!! I'M EXCITED FOR NEXT TIME!!!! jklfsjdklfdsj crying at the image you picked to pull for him 😭😭😭 i love my nerd husband LOL

  • @KayAstray
    @KayAstray 4 месяца назад +19

    I love this series so much! Excited the most for my faves Leah and Harvey

  • @beebop1402
    @beebop1402 3 месяца назад +5

    Haley is such an underrated character and you definitely did her justice! but also unrelated, y’all have no idea how excited I am for Harvey’s video

  • @earth2tonez
    @earth2tonez 4 месяца назад +7

    gah i already loved haley but this made me love her even more. youre so thorough! i’m gonna go binge all the other ones lol

  • @stellamuka1087
    @stellamuka1087 4 месяца назад +10

    Went through all your deep dives after seeing Elliot’s. I don’t play the game I just like going through rabbit holes. And I must say this rabbit hole was better than expected love it here keep up the good work and cozy vibes❤️

  • @sonyam2397
    @sonyam2397 4 месяца назад +13

    "Frictionless". I thought no way that's accidently said. Good on you and amazing use.

  • @Glotzie1
    @Glotzie1 4 месяца назад +1

    I love stardew valley, thinking way to much about characters and worlds I love and these long videos. Your channel is literally the perfect combination for me! I'm so glad this video found its way on my RUclips homepage!

  • @ellymurrellz
    @ellymurrellz 4 месяца назад +1

    Really enjoyed this video I love the detail you go into with the game design and critiques of the character dialogues. Looking forward to watching more of your videos! ❤

  • @plumiplum
    @plumiplum 3 месяца назад +1

    you definitely changed my mind about haley!! ive been watching/listening to all your sdv deep dives since i found you and i really love them all- u make great work !!

  • @KiperV2
    @KiperV2 4 месяца назад +1

    HYPE, I was wondering when your next video was. I'm excited to watch this!

  • @nisa1696
    @nisa1696 4 месяца назад +2

    Good video Fiona, thank you for effort and passion about this. I can’t wait for the Sebastian and Shane episodes!

  • @starryazura
    @starryazura 4 месяца назад +2

    you have such a warm and inviting personality! its a joy to watch your content and im super excited to see what else you'll do with your channel!!
    i await the sebastian deep dive... that one will surely blow up

  • @rebeccamiles4041
    @rebeccamiles4041 3 месяца назад

    I've been working on this super frustrating project for work and I've put your deep dive playlist on while I work and your voice has soothed so much of the stress of this project and I am not only making it through this super mundane project but learning so much about character development from one of my favorite games, so win win! Thank you so much for this!

  • @AlisonWonderland96
    @AlisonWonderland96 4 месяца назад +1

    Considering I’ve already watched the playlist several times, I’m v hyped for the eventual supercut with bonus content 🥰 congratulations in advance for your wedding!! 💖

  • @jachromium785
    @jachromium785 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely loving the channel, and happy to see it growing!

  • @AmethystQuarry
    @AmethystQuarry 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been excited bout every new video. I love these videos

  • @ROBZOMBIEENJOYER
    @ROBZOMBIEENJOYER 4 месяца назад +2

    I love all of these deep dives! They’re so fun to see and learn more about the characters, I’d love to see one of Shane (don’t judge me haha), or even Harvey! Take your time with these videos, because we’ll know it’ll be amazing once you release it!

  • @kaylalaverne8797
    @kaylalaverne8797 4 месяца назад +1

    I just found your videos and binged them all. I love them, keep up the good work. I can’t wait for Shane but also I’ll be sad because he will be like the last one.

  • @bewareofthe
    @bewareofthe 3 месяца назад

    i adore this sort of deep depth analysis content and you do it amazingly! you bring so many new perspectives to light and it's so refreshing. can't wait to see all your future videos ^-^

  • @saltycashew2826
    @saltycashew2826 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm really enjoying these videos! I'm so excited for when you get to Shane. Keep up the wonderful work!!

  • @cindymarie9672
    @cindymarie9672 4 месяца назад +1

    I've been waiting for this!! I'm so excited!

  • @qwghc9165
    @qwghc9165 4 месяца назад +1

    omg your voice is so calming and soft!!!

  • @bananers8655
    @bananers8655 4 месяца назад +2

    I adore your videos so much, and appreciate how much love and effort you give these videos! YOU DESERVE ALL THIS SUPPORT GIRL! Also you have absolutely changed my feelings on Haley, I never got too far in her heart events, I was so pleasantly surprised how kind she turns out to be. KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK!

  • @elleneastment9388
    @elleneastment9388 4 месяца назад +1

    Love these videos so so much!!! When I went to your channel to watch more, I couldn’t believe that you haven’t been doing this for years 😭😭 can’t wait for the next one

  • @dalalal-shemary3358
    @dalalal-shemary3358 3 месяца назад +1

    I started playing Stardew Valley for the first time ever recently, and I’ve been completely enthralled to the point where when I’m not actively playing I’m watching videos. I’ve been avoiding anything with too heavy spoilers but I discovered your video on Elliot and since I figured I’d never want to romance him myself I may as well watch the deep dives, and I’m doing that with other characters I have 8 hearts with but didn’t want to go on to marry. I absolutely adore your videos, the way they are structured and your explanations plus insight on the dialogue. You are truly one of my favorite comfort creators now and I’m so happy to have discovered you and your channel.

  • @fermentedstrawberry
    @fermentedstrawberry 4 месяца назад +6

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEEEEE haley my beloved. Genuinely obsessed with her

  • @sleepypyromancer7899
    @sleepypyromancer7899 4 месяца назад +9

    You did actually change my mind! I've never romanced Haley, but I might have to give her a shot now

  • @terezieobr3069
    @terezieobr3069 4 месяца назад +1

    You are my new favorite comfort youtuber, I have been waiting for just one more video, that you so much for making such amazing and deep content 😊

  • @remi_says
    @remi_says 4 месяца назад +1

    I really like the style of your video style :) it’s so calm and friendly feeling, this is the first one I’ve watched, and I’m excited to watch the others. Congrats on getting married! And I’m looking forward to the Harvey episode a lot!

  • @ciraa
    @ciraa 4 месяца назад +2

    i love haley sooo much

  • @FlamingoSugar
    @FlamingoSugar 4 месяца назад +2

    Another lovely video! And I didn't realize that my two favorites (Haley and Harvey) are right next to each other! So excited to see the next part! Keep up the great work! :D

  • @FlorPudding
    @FlorPudding 4 месяца назад +2

    I was looking forward for this!! I didn't actually care much for Hailey, but seeing this video just made me feel a lot for her, she's so sweet after she goes through all that development, I love that.

  • @DanielaMaria1998
    @DanielaMaria1998 4 месяца назад +1

    This videos are amaziing. Really great analysis. And you have such a nice cadence in your voice, like I think i could hear you speak about anything.

  • @Unicus_Felicus
    @Unicus_Felicus 4 месяца назад +3

    Yes! I have been waiting for this

  • @ReareaGirl
    @ReareaGirl 4 месяца назад +1

    When I saw this on my feed I loudly exclaimed YESSSSSSSSSSS. I was so bummed when I went through all of them last week. Lovely to see a new one! :)

  • @sunny_sketches
    @sunny_sketches 4 месяца назад +2

    how dare youtube not reccomend me this channel sooner! im so excited to watch all these videos :)

  • @nursegerard
    @nursegerard 2 месяца назад +3

    your analysis about haley's ten heart scene totally changed my pov on it!! i also thought it was a bit odd, but the way you described it made me... sad almost? like, shes so used to people wanting her in a physical/superficial way (sorta like how she always prioritized physical appearances/attributes and superficial qualities) so she assumed that the way to express interest, love, and affection was by someone kissing her w/o asking in a dark room, rather than trying to engage with her in her outside interests and hobbies. LIKE... LET US CARE ABOUT YOU HALEY!!!! thank u for this

  • @jrlnky
    @jrlnky 3 месяца назад

    i love ur vibes!! great videoooooooo

  • @Captainn4t
    @Captainn4t 4 месяца назад +12

    What's funny is I never really liked Haley that much to begin with until a guy friend of mine told me that he stans her. He likes mean girls though, and being pushed around. Now I just find her funny xD

  • @smalswald
    @smalswald 4 месяца назад +5

    I would love to see what 1.6 added to Haley since ConcernedApe added a bunch of new dialogue. I am a new viewer and I already love you! I love your content style and the mix of explaining the game design as well as the character themselves. Congrats on your move!

  • @ICantPronounceThatName
    @ICantPronounceThatName 4 месяца назад +22

    Please keep your fidget toys as part of your branding. I think it's great! And now to consume the content.
    I did a playthrough once where I was married to Haley, and Alex was still going to her house even when we were dating! Do you think I was being shaded on the down low? I'll smack that boy with his own gridball!
    Dropping in with an edit to say that I also made the wrong choice in the dark room. I thought the right choice was to help decorate the room. I of course missed the visual queues (as I mentioned in Emily's video, I am completely blind), but the tone of the text didn't lend itself to a romance moment. It felt forced and unnatural.
    Does RUclips let you make videos longer than 12 hours now? I never knew!

    • @fionasangster
      @fionasangster  4 месяца назад +4

      i def will! if i dont have something to fidget with i will just tap on the table which messes with the audio lol.
      lol i have no idea about the video limit tbh maybe it can be in 2 parts!!

    • @silversugar2140
      @silversugar2140 3 месяца назад

      If you do split it you could organize it by bachelor/ette. ​@@fionasangster

  • @joselinlissethgaldamez3667
    @joselinlissethgaldamez3667 4 месяца назад +1

    YES YOURE BACK! i wait for your videos every week bc nobody is doing what your doing an dim burnt on regular stardew valley content.

  • @commandernici
    @commandernici 4 месяца назад +2

    i'm really loving those deep dives

  • @hannahjohnson6976
    @hannahjohnson6976 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m so excited for the Harvey video!!

  • @elinepost5689
    @elinepost5689 2 месяца назад

    This is the first of your videos that I have seen and I'm already obsessed. And your voice is so soothing! :)

  • @addiet4340
    @addiet4340 3 месяца назад +1

    I LOVE THIS VIDEO THIS HAS TOTALLY CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE OMG

  • @ac2292
    @ac2292 3 месяца назад

    I loved your explanation for narrative design in video game development!
    I don’t work in that field at all, but it’s something I’ve picked up on in games and always figured it was a practicality limitation (like you explained) but I loved your examples for potential improvements.

  • @grey7070
    @grey7070 4 месяца назад +3

    A morning upload! (For me) Can't wait to watch later!

  • @dimpleparmar7157
    @dimpleparmar7157 3 месяца назад +1

    i loved this so much, i’m looking forward to the shane video!!! he too is the only one who can make me feel something hehe

  • @RaphaelleLD
    @RaphaelleLD 4 месяца назад +1

    I am SO excited to see your channel grow so much! your videos are fun and relaxing to watch, you deserve all the hype! from someone who also had a video blow up in the past, it is very weird but it's so nice to see your hard work rewarded 🥰

  • @roibenr
    @roibenr 21 день назад

    Just want to say the accuracy of the way you put on the hearts is so oddly satisfying and I have no idea why.

  • @eternalenigma1628
    @eternalenigma1628 4 месяца назад +29

    I love your assessment of the 10 heart scene! While I love Stardew Valley, I think the game generally has issues with consent. Without actual eye contact and body language, it's hard to tell whether the characters are giving the nonverbal "I want to be kissed" signs, but we also don't get the chance to give or ask for verbal consent.

  • @BrownieDropOut
    @BrownieDropOut 3 месяца назад

    I’m loving this series, can’t wait for your video on Shane 😊

  • @punkinpajamas
    @punkinpajamas 4 месяца назад +1

    been waiting for this oneee

  • @meggnoggs
    @meggnoggs 2 месяца назад +2

    I’ve really been liking this series! It would be cool to hear more character analyses from like more narrative driven games. Like persona (5) + your discussion of characterization through choice etc. or more bg3

  • @megancanflyy123
    @megancanflyy123 23 дня назад

    i have been watching all ur videos while knitting a summer top and you have such a great sense of humor! love your videos, long form content slayyyys. such a fun series :)

  • @Kynia
    @Kynia 4 месяца назад +2

    YAYYYAY been excitedly awaiting this one, haley is my one true stardew love :)

  • @konpulsiv
    @konpulsiv 18 дней назад

    I'm kinda looking through all yours videos backwards since discovering you a few days ago. I just love the videos, they're so cozy! And I also really like all your little outfits based on the character one's 🥰

  • @juul-fuul
    @juul-fuul 4 месяца назад +4

    thank you for doing haley justice! i love her she doesn't deserve the hate, she's definitely one of the most misunderstood characters imo

  • @Jaysil2
    @Jaysil2 Месяц назад +2

    These videos are so good!!!
    I think “consent” is the thing missing from the phrasing of the 10 heart scene

  • @Jojo.F87
    @Jojo.F87 2 месяца назад

    Just found your channel and I’m enjoying the content. Congrats on the marriage!! And YES I can’t wait for a super cut to listen to while I play SV :)