What a grumpy awesome old man! Ilove it! That guy is the best part of the video. The 2R is gorgeous and it looks like the new camera is really working for you!
Refuse Truck Photography Knew you would. :P Loving the camera. The dumpster shot would've been useless without the built in neutral density filters, shooting straight into the sun.
Nice footage of one place I'd not like to drive a truck around, we went to New York in 2004 and Manhattan is overwhelming. Massive respect to the people who work there. Keep up the videos
Dave Howe It takes some serious skill to navigate Manhattan streets, and many of the other trucks running around are even tougher to handle than this one. 8 speed manual gearbox vs this truck's automatic and an even longer 31 yard body vs this truck's 25 yards. Yet the drivers take it all in stride.
I don't know if there are any videos on RUclips, but one gearbox worth looking at is the Eaton twin split, they were usually found in Erfs, Fodens etc in the UK and were a bastard to master but once you figured out that your left foot only went on the clutch to pull away or stop then you were on a winner, I was taught to listen to the engine and she'd let you know when the gears are needed but if you missed it you'd have to start all over again ha ha.
Dave Howe Looked it up, there are a few videos. Much respect to the guys that handle trucks like that day in and day out without issue. Perhaps one day I'll be able to count myself amongst them.
What? no Sopranos or organized crime jokes? Used to see a lot of those trucks in Jersey and New York as a kid growing up. Heck I'm 47 now and you still see those old Macks in Jersey and NY hard at work.
How freaking cool was that!?! That old Mack with that beast packer blade all grimy and the chains for tipping! Plus that man was just a hardcore hard working New Yorker. His crew did a nice job too. Wish we could get that feeling of bouncing around that cab in traffic. Epic job with this series of videos you guys have been posting. Thank you
Raul Frescas The coolest. ;) Really lucked out with the packer chains, not many haulers do it that way. The bit at 8:45 shows the bouncing especially well. Happy to satisfy.
Another badass truck! I really like those older Mack Rs. They look really nice with the 2r too. This shows how good Leach trucks are too (: Absolutely amazing, great sound, everything. The conversations with the driver too lol. Can't wait for more NYC demolition footage!
Right on, long live the old Dogs! I used to drive an '84 RS gravel tuck for a couple of years. Sure do miss it some times, bouncing around in that cab. Brings back some good memories. That's one bad ass old Mack.
George, do you know what's come of this truck and Mr. Scocozzo over these years? I doubt the truck is running in the city anymore with the regulations. Hoping it's living life or at least still around and not melted down. Same with that Allgone truck
Excellent work! As usual, the camera work was amazing. Mr Scocozzo fits the my description of a New York garbage man to a T. Found that pretty cool lol His truck, though it's not as shiny as some of the other ones, is probably one of the nicest I've seen. Just a random thought, had this been the old mafia times, I probably would have thought that huge bag at 2:50 was a body haha The chains on the packer were real cool. I really like that method. Lol he has a similar phone like mine. I need to get updated...Beautiful rig of his, really enjoyed watching this truck and well as driver. Awesome video!
***** Thanks Aaron! Good to hear everything is up to snuff, was exhausted and running on coffee the entire trip so crappy camera work on my part was a legitimate concern. Funny you mention body bags, many NY apartments have this sort of mini compactor which extrudes trash into 90-ish gallon plastic bags instead of a typical compactor receiver box. The end result is a soggy, heavy log many of the garbage crews call "body bags". Loved the packer chains, almost thought we wouldn't see that sort of collection n action since all the demolition trucks we saw so equipped didn't use them. Packer chains will handle up to a 2 yard can, just imagine one of those full of wet and heavy NYC garbage, and having to manually help it tip all the way into the hopper. New York garbage men likely have the most physically demanding jobs in the industry.
Fantastic video!! TY for posting. Yep MACK made in USA, LEACH 2R made in USA a little TLC and regular maintenance and both can run for 50 years. Hell this one is already 37 years old. Just surprised I saw no Trolley Brake Valve on steering column LOL
Some of these vids (particularly this one) make NYC seem way more small-town than big-city... old truck, old (packer chains wow) machinery, friendly people...
Wow, the quality was absolutely amazing to watch in 4k (unsurprisingly). Love the whole classic vibe with the obviously classic truck and no gloves or anything and of course, Mr. Scocozoo. The whole thing just has such a classic NYC vibe. He seems like such a stereotypical old NYC garbo haha. Love how they did the dumpster, definitely love that style especially after watching Wingfield do it. Love the single lever control, especially seeing the other side in the hopper. So I take it Scocozzo is another commercial waste hauler rather than a C&D packer? Needless to say, another phenomenal video from you. Can't wait to see the other riches you and Scott brought back.
Garbage Trucks AZ I'm very happy I made the jump to 4k. What convinced me was seeing how amazing the 4k downscaled to 1080p looked, blew my old camera out of the water. Built in neutral density is huge too. And the thing is YT absolutely mutilates the quality with its own processing, you should see the pre-upload version. Scocozzo is one of the coolest guys I've ever met, wish he was actually my uncle or something lol. Dumpster chains were a pleasant surprise, we came across a few demo waste 2R-IIs with them but none of the drivers made use of them, opting for just the winch. Having the control linkages inside the hopper is a massively inferior approach, I understand lots of lube is required to make sure everything works, not to mention the obvious susceptibility to damage from whatever's getting packed in the hopper. But it did make for a great shot. Yes, I would assume just garbage. This truck is probably the entire fleet, but I didn't think to ask. Glad you enjoyed, there's deffo some more good stuff to come.
Thank you for all of your work and dedication you put into filming these bad ass trucks! Could you possibly make a vid showing the upper tailgate structure of a Leach 2r or 2r2 Packmaster with all the hydraulics exposed in action. Have always been fascinated by the hydraulics and packer blade from that angle!
I drive a trash truck in Kansas City. But its an international. I wish we still had these old macks in KC. I hear they were the best in the trash industry
You and Scott must've been unsatisfied finding this out there, like it's just a 1980 model, see them all the time. CLASSIC!!! Mr Scocozzo sounds like a good guy, funny hearing some of the talking in the cab like 5:10 :D He did a good job slicing that pallet in half in the first packing clip, heaps of people would've gotten off after seeing that lol It was also cool seeing the old single packer lever actuating the two linkages on the inside of the tailgate - never thought about how it might've worked. You must've been ecstatic getting a ride through the streets; a bonus experience. No surprise there's a chain lift with this truck, well before the A-frame system was introduced I bet!
MitchellM15 As Scott mentioned, it was refreshing to see the packer operated in a way that limited wear and tear on the machine. Much less stress on the structure when using the sweep blade to "slice" the pallet rather than crush it. Like I said, the best 15 minutes of my life lol. The thing about the A-frame is it only sees use with the 1/2 yard demolition cans, no regular garbage duty. In any case there are brand new trucks still using the chains. They're a great way to add dumpster handling capability to a packer without too much cost or added complexity. Come to think of it I couldn't give a starting date when the Lodal A-frame was adapted to the NYC demolition rear loaders, I guess there's some research to be done.
Just listening to this Mack again, can't get over that amazing sound! Especially the takeoff at 5:37 - love that 1st to 2nd shift! Does this truck have an Allison automatic? If so, what Allison transmission? I was thinking the MT647, but I could be way off.
I saw this truck back in 2006,while I was making deliveries in Manhattan .I tried to get a photo but I couldn't, this is the first time since then that I have seen this truck, not on Flickr or anywhere else. Great find, did you get any stills of this truck while you were filming also. Again awesome work thanks
No stills. I stopped bothering with stills and began focusing just on video a while ago. However the switch to 4k lets me take more than adequate stills from the video. I understand 8x10 prints are feasible. Haven't tried yet but will play around with it this week. Do you have specific spots in the video you want? BTW any stories about driving delivery in Manhattan? Seeing the grille guards and battle scars on all the box trucks I imagine it's an exciting job to say the least.
God i miss these old Mack Refuse trucks!! Back when Garbage trucks could actually get the job done. These newer side loaders today are shit. I know i used to drive one. Please don't delete this
Were we all in NYC at the same time? We should have met up to film! Anyway, beautiful truck! Definitely a classic. PRetty cool how you get to ride in the trucks. Do you have connections with the workers or do you just ask? Great video!
One awesome video George! These older Leach rear loaders are fun to watch, showing no mercy whatsoever, they're one of my favorites out there. Mr. Scocozzo seems like a really cool dude, classic New Yorker, and definitely keeps it old school! Great to see the Mack bulldog intact after all these years! Such a relic he owns, and it's good to see it still running healthy. Video quality was outstanding, loved the slow pan shot in the beginning. And the ultra HD quality too! How are video file sizes with each clip? I'd imagine they've be a bit larger than typical MOV or AVCHD files.
Thanks Jaccob. The 2-R has no equal, though I suppose Loadmaster's 400 is close. Would expect nothing less from these old Macks, would love to run one myself someday but truck age restrictions are making that ever less feasible. Pride myself on the slow pans. ;) Overall capacity time-wise is comparable to my old Panasonic TM700, about 2 hrs 15 min, but that's with a 64GB memory card. The finished upload is just under 6GB.
Great video George! That Mack R model sounds absolutely beautiful! Did you get any in cab footage of that All Gone Leach, the one on the Volvo / Autocar? I want to hear more shifting of that beast!
georgewuzheer Any video of that truck going through the gears? Is that truck a 1986 Autocar ACL64 with an L10 Cummins and 8 speed Eaton Fuller transmission? Can you please upload the vid of that truck ASAP? I assume it's a 30 yard Leach 2RII, right?
1980 and still running like a boss! In Russia we change trucks every 10 years :( The packer reminds me of Stephen King's Mangler, lol. So Scocozzo is the driver? I was thinking it's some mafioso's surname. Is it true that the mafia manages NY waste?
It's still pretty mobbed up in Jersey and New York. There are more "legit" companies than there used to be. Days gone by, those trucks would've burned out by the mob. The mafia still has PLENTY of presence in waste and construction in those parts, though.
rb mack truck is a beast truck great work for trash service. i 💘 love peterbilt to death my first 💘 love peterbilt but but that love of the Mack Trucks I can't help I can't help myself I have 15 of them trucks Mack Trucks rb mack never die God and Jesus Glass America and trash serving people
Maxidyne Power "the truck" is a 1980 but I don't know if that's just the chassis, just the body, or both. A lot of rebodies in NYC, we came across a 70s R Model with a 90s 2R-II.
pavel1809 You don't think so? Well you not know so much then.(LOL) Its a day cab with a Leach unit mounted to it. Take off the unit and you have yourself a day cab.
Great footage... I love those R models!!!
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What a grumpy awesome old man! Ilove it! That guy is the best part of the video. The 2R is gorgeous and it looks like the new camera is really working for you!
Refuse Truck Photography Knew you would. :P Loving the camera. The dumpster shot would've been useless without the built in neutral density filters, shooting straight into the sun.
Nice footage of one place I'd not like to drive a truck around, we went to New York in 2004 and Manhattan is overwhelming. Massive respect to the people who work there. Keep up the videos
Dave Howe It takes some serious skill to navigate Manhattan streets, and many of the other trucks running around are even tougher to handle than this one. 8 speed manual gearbox vs this truck's automatic and an even longer 31 yard body vs this truck's 25 yards. Yet the drivers take it all in stride.
I don't know if there are any videos on RUclips, but one gearbox worth looking at is the Eaton twin split, they were usually found in Erfs, Fodens etc in the UK and were a bastard to master but once you figured out that your left foot only went on the clutch to pull away or stop then you were on a winner, I was taught to listen to the engine and she'd let you know when the gears are needed but if you missed it you'd have to start all over again ha ha.
Dave Howe Looked it up, there are a few videos. Much respect to the guys that handle trucks like that day in and day out without issue. Perhaps one day I'll be able to count myself amongst them.
What? no Sopranos or organized crime jokes? Used to see a lot of those trucks in Jersey and New York as a kid growing up. Heck I'm 47 now and you still see those old Macks in Jersey and NY hard at work.
2R2s Bad Packing MotherFuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!
How freaking cool was that!?! That old Mack with that beast packer blade all grimy and the chains for tipping! Plus that man was just a hardcore hard working New Yorker. His crew did a nice job too. Wish we could get that feeling of bouncing around that cab in traffic. Epic job with this series of videos you guys have been posting. Thank you
Raul Frescas The coolest. ;) Really lucked out with the packer chains, not many haulers do it that way. The bit at 8:45 shows the bouncing especially well. Happy to satisfy.
Another badass truck! I really like those older Mack Rs. They look really nice with the 2r too. This shows how good Leach trucks are too (: Absolutely amazing, great sound, everything. The conversations with the driver too lol. Can't wait for more NYC demolition footage!
garbageproductions1 Nothing quite like a Leach. Mr. Scocozzo really made this vid. Don't worry lots of demolition packer vids coming.
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Right on, long live the old Dogs! I used to drive an '84 RS gravel tuck for a couple of years. Sure do miss it some times, bouncing around in that cab. Brings back some good memories. That's one bad ass old Mack.
George, do you know what's come of this truck and Mr. Scocozzo over these years? I doubt the truck is running in the city anymore with the regulations. Hoping it's living life or at least still around and not melted down. Same with that Allgone truck
Excellent work! As usual, the camera work was amazing. Mr Scocozzo fits the my description of a New York garbage man to a T. Found that pretty cool lol His truck, though it's not as shiny as some of the other ones, is probably one of the nicest I've seen. Just a random thought, had this been the old mafia times, I probably would have thought that huge bag at 2:50 was a body haha The chains on the packer were real cool. I really like that method. Lol he has a similar phone like mine. I need to get updated...Beautiful rig of his, really enjoyed watching this truck and well as driver. Awesome video!
***** Thanks Aaron! Good to hear everything is up to snuff, was exhausted and running on coffee the entire trip so crappy camera work on my part was a legitimate concern. Funny you mention body bags, many NY apartments have this sort of mini compactor which extrudes trash into 90-ish gallon plastic bags instead of a typical compactor receiver box. The end result is a soggy, heavy log many of the garbage crews call "body bags". Loved the packer chains, almost thought we wouldn't see that sort of collection n action since all the demolition trucks we saw so equipped didn't use them. Packer chains will handle up to a 2 yard can, just imagine one of those full of wet and heavy NYC garbage, and having to manually help it tip all the way into the hopper. New York garbage men likely have the most physically demanding jobs in the industry.
Bring these old leaches back and old trucks i liked the single handle and chains
Fantastic video!! TY for posting. Yep MACK made in USA, LEACH 2R made in USA a little TLC and regular maintenance and both can run for 50 years. Hell this one is already 37 years old. Just surprised I saw no Trolley Brake Valve on steering column LOL
Some of these vids (particularly this one) make NYC seem way more small-town than big-city... old truck, old (packer chains wow) machinery, friendly people...
***** Don't be fooled. A lot of the success of this trip came from persistence. For every 1980 Leach 2-R there are 100 Progressive MRU/McNeilus.
Wow, the quality was absolutely amazing to watch in 4k (unsurprisingly). Love the whole classic vibe with the obviously classic truck and no gloves or anything and of course, Mr. Scocozoo. The whole thing just has such a classic NYC vibe. He seems like such a stereotypical old NYC garbo haha. Love how they did the dumpster, definitely love that style especially after watching Wingfield do it. Love the single lever control, especially seeing the other side in the hopper. So I take it Scocozzo is another commercial waste hauler rather than a C&D packer? Needless to say, another phenomenal video from you. Can't wait to see the other riches you and Scott brought back.
Garbage Trucks AZ I'm very happy I made the jump to 4k. What convinced me was seeing how amazing the 4k downscaled to 1080p looked, blew my old camera out of the water. Built in neutral density is huge too. And the thing is YT absolutely mutilates the quality with its own processing, you should see the pre-upload version. Scocozzo is one of the coolest guys I've ever met, wish he was actually my uncle or something lol. Dumpster chains were a pleasant surprise, we came across a few demo waste 2R-IIs with them but none of the drivers made use of them, opting for just the winch. Having the control linkages inside the hopper is a massively inferior approach, I understand lots of lube is required to make sure everything works, not to mention the obvious susceptibility to damage from whatever's getting packed in the hopper. But it did make for a great shot. Yes, I would assume just garbage. This truck is probably the entire fleet, but I didn't think to ask. Glad you enjoyed, there's deffo some more good stuff to come.
How could I forget single handle rear loads and 2yd chains
I wouldn’t want to drive that spare and dam it’s got the chains on the blade still
Any more NYC demolition footage? Cannot beat these old beasts!!!
Thank you for all of your work and dedication you put into filming these bad ass trucks! Could you possibly make a vid showing the upper tailgate structure of a Leach 2r or 2r2 Packmaster with all the hydraulics exposed in action. Have always been fascinated by the hydraulics and packer blade from that angle!
i used to drive one of these the r model mack with a leach 2r2 25 yard packer damn good trucks
I drive a trash truck in Kansas City. But its an international. I wish we still had these old macks in KC. I hear they were the best in the trash industry
You and Scott must've been unsatisfied finding this out there, like it's just a 1980 model, see them all the time. CLASSIC!!! Mr Scocozzo sounds like a good guy, funny hearing some of the talking in the cab like 5:10 :D He did a good job slicing that pallet in half in the first packing clip, heaps of people would've gotten off after seeing that lol It was also cool seeing the old single packer lever actuating the two linkages on the inside of the tailgate - never thought about how it might've worked. You must've been ecstatic getting a ride through the streets; a bonus experience. No surprise there's a chain lift with this truck, well before the A-frame system was introduced I bet!
MitchellM15 As Scott mentioned, it was refreshing to see the packer operated in a way that limited wear and tear on the machine. Much less stress on the structure when using the sweep blade to "slice" the pallet rather than crush it. Like I said, the best 15 minutes of my life lol. The thing about the A-frame is it only sees use with the 1/2 yard demolition cans, no regular garbage duty. In any case there are brand new trucks still using the chains. They're a great way to add dumpster handling capability to a packer without too much cost or added complexity. Come to think of it I couldn't give a starting date when the Lodal A-frame was adapted to the NYC demolition rear loaders, I guess there's some research to be done.
Leach 2R Packmaster
I don’t know how many times I bent those shifting rides
Just saw this exact truck on a totally unrelated dash cam video!
Just listening to this Mack again, can't get over that amazing sound! Especially the takeoff at 5:37 - love that 1st to 2nd shift! Does this truck have an Allison automatic? If so, what Allison transmission? I was thinking the MT647, but I could be way off.
+GarbageSean Yup Allison auto, no idea which one though.
This truck has the old Push-Out system, right?
I saw this truck back in 2006,while I was making deliveries in Manhattan .I tried to get a photo but I couldn't, this is the first time since then that I have seen this truck, not on Flickr or anywhere else. Great find, did you get any stills of this truck while you were filming also. Again awesome work thanks
No stills. I stopped bothering with stills and began focusing just on video a while ago. However the switch to 4k lets me take more than adequate stills from the video. I understand 8x10 prints are feasible. Haven't tried yet but will play around with it this week. Do you have specific spots in the video you want? BTW any stories about driving delivery in Manhattan? Seeing the grille guards and battle scars on all the box trucks I imagine it's an exciting job to say the least.
0:18 Pretty worn out tires!
God i miss these old Mack Refuse trucks!! Back when Garbage trucks could actually get the job done. These newer side loaders today are shit. I know i used to drive one. Please don't delete this
No worries lol. I'd love to hear more about the trucks you've driven.
As far as trash trucks, these newer Macks that you drive from the right side and they are not as good as these classic beasts
Were we all in NYC at the same time? We should have met up to film! Anyway, beautiful truck! Definitely a classic. PRetty cool how you get to ride in the trucks. Do you have connections with the workers or do you just ask? Great video!
SoCalGarbageTrucks IDK, Scott and I were there from the 21st through the 24th last month. A bit of both. Thanks!
I like the look of a Mack with a scoop on the hood.
+Kevin Marsh Agreed :)
One awesome video George! These older Leach rear loaders are fun to watch, showing no mercy whatsoever, they're one of my favorites out there. Mr. Scocozzo seems like a really cool dude, classic New Yorker, and definitely keeps it old school! Great to see the Mack bulldog intact after all these years! Such a relic he owns, and it's good to see it still running healthy. Video quality was outstanding, loved the slow pan shot in the beginning. And the ultra HD quality too! How are video file sizes with each clip? I'd imagine they've be a bit larger than typical MOV or AVCHD files.
Thanks Jaccob. The 2-R has no equal, though I suppose Loadmaster's 400 is close. Would expect nothing less from these old Macks, would love to run one myself someday but truck age restrictions are making that ever less feasible. Pride myself on the slow pans. ;) Overall capacity time-wise is comparable to my old Panasonic TM700, about 2 hrs 15 min, but that's with a 64GB memory card. The finished upload is just under 6GB.
Here in my state we have no age restrictions for trucks
Great video George! That Mack R model sounds absolutely beautiful! Did you get any in cab footage of that All Gone Leach, the one on the Volvo / Autocar? I want to hear more shifting of that beast!
Thanks Sean. You won't be disappointed with the All Gone vid.
georgewuzheer Any video of that truck going through the gears? Is that truck a 1986 Autocar ACL64 with an L10 Cummins and 8 speed Eaton Fuller transmission? Can you please upload the vid of that truck ASAP? I assume it's a 30 yard Leach 2RII, right?
NOW"That's a Garbage Truck!!!!!
I'm sure they should be a mack superliner garbage truck
what kind of transmission does your truck have
That packers is a classic
I wonder if this garbage truck actually has a manual transmission, give it's age and the fact that it is a Mack R-Model.
Is that an allison automatic?
Sweetest beast ever
1980 and still running like a boss! In Russia we change trucks every 10 years :( The packer reminds me of Stephen King's Mangler, lol. So Scocozzo is the driver? I was thinking it's some mafioso's surname. Is it true that the mafia manages NY waste?
It used to be but there was a big bust in the 90's and the industry is pretty honest now.
It's still pretty mobbed up in Jersey and New York. There are more "legit" companies than there used to be. Days gone by, those trucks would've burned out by the mob. The mafia still has PLENTY of presence in waste and construction in those parts, though.
rb mack truck is a beast truck great work for trash service. i 💘 love peterbilt to death my first 💘 love peterbilt but but that love of the Mack Trucks I can't help I can't help myself I have 15 of them trucks Mack Trucks rb mack never die God and Jesus Glass America and trash serving people
Not an RB. RB has a set back axle.
What year is the R model? Looks to be an R686 with the scoop.
Maxidyne Power "the truck" is a 1980 but I don't know if that's just the chassis, just the body, or both. A lot of rebodies in NYC, we came across a 70s R Model with a 90s 2R-II.
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Why does it do?
It said ack,not mack
day cab will look better
It is a day cab
i don't think so
pavel1809 You don't think so? Well you not know so much then.(LOL) Its a day cab with a Leach unit mounted to it. Take off the unit and you have yourself a day cab.
i don't even know that the garbage truck will pull 40ft container lol lol OR 40ft flatbed trailer i m Done with you
pavel1809 You don't know shit. Try and turn this around on me!