Agree. He just said it makes no difference when in fact he used cheap thermal paste. Even for me using "Cooler Master mastergel maker nano" on my 4790k it runs a lot cooler. usually can go 80C easily but now it goes at least 70C max on 4,.4GHZ and that's not bad for what it was.
when linus did it with a 6700k i think he used arctic silver and didnt see much more than a 2 or 3 degree drop if remember correctly, have you done it with a skylake cpu and was that a misleading result because the arctic silver isnt the right stuff or is there some massive difference between kaby lake and skylake with respect to the compound?
Arctic silver and other pastes I find dry out when testing in the past with high overclocks. Liquid pro is the only stuff I have used personally that gets the job done and makes a huge difference. As for Linus, I can't say, though he should be using the coolaboratory stuff, it was designed exactly for this situation.
Tech City How risky is delidding if you use a proper tool and you look up carefully how to do it? Is there a risk involved that is just a matter of luck or should anyone who uses his brain be fine? I can imagine it is quite terrifying for most users to do this given you need a lot of force to disjoint the IHS and the PCB while the PCB and the die on it are rather fragile.
Is there a chance that Linus got a i7 6700k Intel reference chip? Because running stock speeds (or close to) and running a Corsair H115i I get about 85ºc when stress testing with Prime95.
Call It What You Want True, if it competes with kaby lake with noticeably lower temps them it'll be the obvious choice, but I still don't want to invest into the current gen processors
Yah my 4770k runs at 85c under load with a nactua nh-d15 with no over clock! I can't believe they ship cpus with such shit thermal paste.Can't wait for ryzen lol
Pretty crazy. Just shows that Intel doesn't care about their desktop CPUs anymore as they're growing and trying to compete with others, i.e. ARM and mobile.
Your forgetting that AMD cpus are still trash Compared to Intel.. even if AMDs new RYZEN gains some traction, Intel can easily step up their game as they have far more resources available to advance their CPUs then AMD..
justin halen Intel has been sending resources to all places but desktop CPUs, and they won't be able to miraculously release a Ryzen killer. Their weapon will be lowering prices, and they said they're not doing that.
I don't think they're concerned, nor should they be. Don't get me wrong, I would love to believe the AMD hype train on Ryzen, but you must admit they've burned everyone before. I'm still looking at Ryzen for my next upgrade, though. I'm at the point where I don't think 4 cores with hyperthreading is really enough, and as much as I love my Xeon, I'm not willing to sacrifice single threaded performance for threads anymore. 8 cores with SMT and high clocks is the sweet spot for me, so I'll probably be buying a Ryzen chip unless Intel's new extreme editions are just absurdly good.
-DepthCharge And ryzen is theoretically between 40-60% higher IPC over their last gen, but let's wait for reviewers to get their hands on it and see if this will be what takes the first shot at Intel in over a decade
foreign's gaming tech intel did say that they wont be focusing on the consumer grade desktop cpu anymore since it is no longer as profittable. They are trying to compete (and already losing) to ARMs and GPUs in server market. And in the case of ARM, Intel got their butts handed to them on the mobile front since literraly every smartphone uses ARM and even the newer chromebooks and some ultra book uses ARM now.
Gabriel Umoh the liquid metal stuff we use when delidding is great performance, but it won't last forever. You might find yourself having to change it after sox months to a year. Intel went for reliability, rather than performance, when they chose their TIM for the IHS.
A 20c difference is insane.This is not called reliability, people say keeping a chip cool is good for reliability, cooking it is not good. A 3 degree difference is huge, a 5 degree is showing that it used the $1 huge tube of paste for doing 100+ chips. If Intel can't spend $0.01 on a $300 CPU, then that's pitiful. The most expensive paste I've bought was $3.50 for Arctic Silver Ceramic, that was good enough for probably 8-10 CPUs, and I only spent that much because its rated somewhere at -150c and I was doing sub-zero cooling (silver based paste just doesn't work well at those temps apparently).
Pulssqt It should do much higher clocks without running so hot. That would be like me switching my AMD cooler for an Intel stock cooler, making it run 30c hotter and say, hey look it's reliable! It's the same thing.
Energy Core It's hard to believe that! If that's the case, how come the X-99 Series processors and Z97 Series processors have better thermals? The truth is that Intel skimped on cooling for their Skylake and Kabylake series processors.
About to do this myself. Thanks for the video seen a lot of people putting the liquid metal on the lid as well before squishing it together. Also heard about clear nail polish over the little gold contacts. Looks like yours is simple as it gets with promising results. Thanks again for the video
Can confirm. Delidded my 7700K and went from a 4.9Ghz OC throttling out at 100°C while gaming, up to a 5.1Ghz maxing out at about 78°C under extreme load and around 64°C while gaming. I used Conductonaut liquid metal for both the IHS and as thermal paste on my water cooler. These temps are better than I hoped. I definitely recommend using a delidding tool. It's worth the time and money.
Nice video. 1st time seeing that cpu deliding kit and can see why. The new cpus are so skinny now. Sorry to hear about the gpu issues. Hope it's simple like just an output being dead and not something serious.
+Tech City How can you deal with being in a room at 33C?!?! I get hot and bothered (Massive understatement) at anything over 20C. Might have something to do with growing up in the north of England next to the north sea...but still 33C :O
Lol 33c is only slightly warm weather here in Aus.Where I used to live we had a heatwave last for 11 days where the coolest day was 43c and where a mate of mine lived here was getting 47-48c.
Most of you are skipping humidity. A 30 degrees, hot and humid day can be much more unforgiving than it being dry and at 40 degrees. - There's more it it than the temperature.
I thought you'd be putting the heatsink on the bare die but instead you replaced the thermal compound under the lid. Didn't know that's how its supposed to be done
Great video. You got some really good temps. I have watched a few videos before I de-lidded mine. Now I have de-lidded my 7700K on my P870X Laptop, I thought I'd come back here to post my results. These are my Temps (day 1): All readings at 4.5Ghz 7700K Laptop: Before de-lid, after stress test: 42c Min 99c Max 55c Avg After de-lid, after stress test: 28c Min 79c Max 42c Avg This will improve over time after the paste has ran in... hopefully...
Wait touching the chip with bare fingers doesn't mess it up? Because i was under the notion that body oil from fingers might interfered with the processor and that's why you hold it by the edge?
Good video - I just delidded my 6700k - my prime 95 28.7 with avx temps went from 87c to 63c @ 4.6ghz with ht on 1.3v in bios. Using a noctua u14s with the fan running at 900rpm. Ambient temp 23c. Used cool laboratory ultra on die and noctua nht1 on the heat sink- super solid results
his name is der8auer, or der bauer, aka The Builder. His name is Roman Hartung and he's selling a full can-opener style delid tool at caseking here in Berlin if you look for it.
It is ridiculous how hot it gets! I actually had to clock down my CPU to 3.9 ghz and lower the voltage in order to get a decent temp since all I was getting was 97 degrees out of the box
nice to finally find your channel, with ways of Understanding and pushing Tech. I'm wondering....has anyone thought of skipping the Thermal paste and directly transferring the heat from the chip using some other way like a Peltier method??))
Question - why don't people skip the IHS and put the heatsink + thermal paste directly on the CPU die? Could it break the CPU? Old AMD chips used to be bare like that.
Just learned about this delid stuff. Why can't a cooling block be applied directly to the chip without the lid? Like could you dremil around the top and use a mineral oil loop, or even a copper block water kit? or is there a grounding issue? Seems like ever material interface would just add to thermal insulation. Seems like for intel's next X series they could incorporate the water cooler into this lid and remove 2 layers.
I use Liquid Ultra. Same company, new formula to prevent sticking after a year. Should be noted, this stuff is corrosive to aluminum. Only recommend for copper, I think nickel-plated is fine as well but don't take my word on it. With that said, I used it on a EVO 212 which has partial aluminum contact. It's been well over a year and the aluminum did show signs of corrosion but the cooler performs like day one of application.
is it just me or does the i7 7700k run hotter then usual, at 70% load im running around 80 degrees, its been that way since ive had the system built, have also used Thermal grizzly Kyronaut from artic silver just on my head spreader didnt do anything even after around 200 hours it still runs hot, all cooler and ect is mounted correctly
what if u put too much liquid metal or from overtime usage it spreads down from DIE surface?did u removed and reaplied the silicone or u just left it like it was before deliding ?
I would recommend delidding even if you aren't overclocking. I'm building a pc for my step-son and he lives 2500 miles from me so I can't just go take a look when something goes wrong. So once I finished building this Kaby Lake system the temps were eye-opening even at stock settings. My Haswell system is 30C cooler at a 50% OC. I couldn't bring myself to sending him a system and telling him, "Hey keep an eye on your temps while playing games since FutureMark was hitting upper 60s to low 70s." That's with a Corsair H100i V1 water cooler on it. So I bought RockIt delidding tool, which got to me in 3 days and I delidded last night. Tonight I will drop it in and see what temps I get now. It wasn't difficult to do with maybe the toughest part putting the new silicone on the IHS. Don't forget to leave a pinky-sized gap for venting or else it won't work. I'll provide an update tonight of what the temps are under a stress test of AIDA64.
Ok finished with my step-son's build. Before delidding, AIDA64 stress test for 30 minutes at stock settings hit 78C; keep in mind that was 3 days after I mounted the water block. After delidding, the same test hit 66C. I figure maybe 2 to 4C lower as the TIM cures under the CPU block. Not bad. Gaming temps playing Elder Scrolls Online hit 56C which is perfect. Even have some headroom for overclocking and this is with a h100i, which could be improved further with a custom loop.
Umm I need help guys. I have a I5 3570 with a stock cooler, and when im gaming my temps are around 65-73C. Idle temps are around 35-43. Is 70C safe for gaming?
2 Questions : 1st) It is safe just to leave it there without glue only with socket clamp hold it on? and 2nd) How often should i change the liquid from die? Thanks, great vid btw.
It's not entirely on the thermal paste they used, it's more the distance between the IHS and the die that's causing issues. You could have the same thermal paste in your hands to apply that Intel used and just remove the sealant and allow the socket arm to hold it down and there would be an improvement.
are they intentionally manufacturing those chips with shitty thermal paste so that they have some 'reserve' when the Moore's law stops or slow down more?
I delidded my 4770K nearly 3 years ago & saw a 15C drop on my 4.5GHz OC, (roughly 85C down to 70C) i could have pushed further, but i was v happy with overall performance. I'm still really happy i did it. Tho the idea of having to de-lid X299 chips is kinda sad tbh..
I ordered the Rockit88 in the states and received it in 3 days. Delidding was simple and they also have a relidding tool if you want to use silicon to put it back together.
need to delid my i7 6700 non K cause its cooking at 4.5ghz its has peaks at 85c° and often crashes... turned it down to 4.2ghz now peak is 72C lol but i want my 4.5 ghz...
Just used Rockit Cool's Rockit 88 delidding tool for my son's 3570k. I will be using it on my 6700k as well, but I thought I would start with his. The Rockit 88 made it SOOOOOO easy! I used Cool Laboratory's Liquid Ultra, and the results were unreal. Pre-delid I had the 3570k overclocked to 4.0Ghz, and the max temp was 82°C. Post-relid I overclocked to 4.5Ghz, and the max temp is 62°C! 20°C drop! Linus' test was garbage, and he replaced garbage thermal paste with more garbage thermal paste.
I just upgraded to 7700K on MSI M5 mobo with NZXT Kraken X60. Mine is running OC of 5ghz at 1.2v. But I noticed temperature spikes from 38 to 60 degrees on some of the cores. Is this normal?
Green screen with that 280x? Mine had almost the same problem. It's dying Bryan....there's a slight chance a reflow to fix it but right now it might be utterly useless.
NeoVoodooTech but dont that mean your PC cant stay upright because it will drip down than during the curing or is the pressure high enough that even when the CPU is on its side the liquid wont move
I might try this on my Xeon e5-1620 V3 since it only turbos up to 3.6GHz. but i have about 15 degrees C of room to OC at stock frequencies. Any tips before I try this?
I don't think they add good thermal paste since the mass majority of the intel market usually stay in stock speeds for the rated compound and expect a small percentage of overclockers so they leave that up to them to delid and all that jazz.
So when you delid your cpu, do you reseal the IHS back onto the PCB after you put on the liquid metal thermal stuff? Or do you just leave the black gunk off. I'm upgrading to Kaby Lake soon mainly because i saw everyone going to 5ghz almost guaranteed, but noone was mentioning temperatures when they did this. Anyones input would be greatly appreciated.
Before delid i was running at 4.8ghz at temp 81-84. After delid and using Thermal Grizzly liquid metal i am running at 5ghz, temps from 60-63 at full load. Happy camper.
Delid an intel CPU and apply ketchup, I bet it will still run better than stock
Much better than Linus video about deliding!
Great video man.
Agree. He just said it makes no difference when in fact he used cheap thermal paste. Even for me using "Cooler Master mastergel maker nano" on my 4790k it runs a lot cooler. usually can go 80C easily but now it goes at least 70C max on 4,.4GHZ and that's not bad for what it was.
Spelled my nickname almost correctly :D Thanks for the mention tho! 1:40
It's getting hot in here so take off all your lids!
NeoVoodooTech No........just no..
IaMaWeSoMe7478 lol
NeoVoodooTech Haha you brought me back at least 15 years with that comment :)
After Devils Canyon came out I thought the days of Delidding were over but now we are back here again, good job Intel
Der8auer makes a great delid tool for every cpu
Yup, proper machined alloy too ... not cheap 3D printed plastic crap ;)
For anyone interested in Der8auer's Delid-Die-Kit /watch?v=XopM4p4CBrs
when linus did it with a 6700k i think he used arctic silver and didnt see much more than a 2 or 3 degree drop if remember correctly, have you done it with a skylake cpu and was that a misleading result because the arctic silver isnt the right stuff or is there some massive difference between kaby lake and skylake with respect to the compound?
Arctic silver and other pastes I find dry out when testing in the past with high overclocks. Liquid pro is the only stuff I have used personally that gets the job done and makes a huge difference. As for Linus, I can't say, though he should be using the coolaboratory stuff, it was designed exactly for this situation.
**correction i just rewatched it he used something called maker gel sorry didnt wanna be giving out bad information
I'm glad you brought that up because I was thinking the same thing.
Tech City
How risky is delidding if you use a proper tool and you look up carefully how to do it? Is there a risk involved that is just a matter of luck or should anyone who uses his brain be fine? I can imagine it is quite terrifying for most users to do this given you need a lot of force to disjoint the IHS and the PCB while the PCB and the die on it are rather fragile.
Is there a chance that Linus got a i7 6700k Intel reference chip? Because running stock speeds (or close to) and running a Corsair H115i I get about 85ºc when stress testing with Prime95.
100mhz and -15/20 degrees is nice, I wish they would just go back to soldering the die on or at least some better paste
AMD used to be the hottest cpus, but for a while now Intel takes the cake..Seeing reviews on youtube ppl happy with 85C on intel chips, like its ok..
intel takes the cake because AMD hasn't released anything for 5 years
Dex4Sure CPU innovation is rare now, I expect quite a bit from vega but I'm not excited at all for ryzen
Yes but we don't know anything about the temperatures, do we?
Call It What You Want True, if it competes with kaby lake with noticeably lower temps them it'll be the obvious choice, but I still don't want to invest into the current gen processors
Yah my 4770k runs at 85c under load with a nactua nh-d15 with no over clock! I can't believe they ship cpus with such shit thermal paste.Can't wait for ryzen lol
Pretty crazy. Just shows that Intel doesn't care about their desktop CPUs anymore as they're growing and trying to compete with others, i.e. ARM and mobile.
Your forgetting that AMD cpus are still trash Compared to Intel.. even if AMDs new RYZEN gains some traction, Intel can easily step up their game as they have far more resources available to advance their CPUs then AMD..
justin halen Intel has been sending resources to all places but desktop CPUs, and they won't be able to miraculously release a Ryzen killer. Their weapon will be lowering prices, and they said they're not doing that.
I don't think they're concerned, nor should they be. Don't get me wrong, I would love to believe the AMD hype train on Ryzen, but you must admit they've burned everyone before.
I'm still looking at Ryzen for my next upgrade, though. I'm at the point where I don't think 4 cores with hyperthreading is really enough, and as much as I love my Xeon, I'm not willing to sacrifice single threaded performance for threads anymore. 8 cores with SMT and high clocks is the sweet spot for me, so I'll probably be buying a Ryzen chip unless Intel's new extreme editions are just absurdly good.
-DepthCharge And ryzen is theoretically between 40-60% higher IPC over their last gen, but let's wait for reviewers to get their hands on it and see if this will be what takes the first shot at Intel in over a decade
foreign's gaming tech intel did say that they wont be focusing on the consumer grade desktop cpu anymore since it is no longer as profittable. They are trying to compete (and already losing) to ARMs and GPUs in server market. And in the case of ARM, Intel got their butts handed to them on the mobile front since literraly every smartphone uses ARM and even the newer chromebooks and some ultra book uses ARM now.
Did that with my 4770k. the difference is incredible and it gave my old cpu a new life ! Much higher OC , lower temps etc.
the i7 is already very expensive then why would Intel skimp out on proper cooling
Gabriel Umoh the liquid metal stuff we use when delidding is great performance, but it won't last forever. You might find yourself having to change it after sox months to a year. Intel went for reliability, rather than performance, when they chose their TIM for the IHS.
A 20c difference is insane.This is not called reliability, people say keeping a chip cool is good for reliability, cooking it is not good. A 3 degree difference is huge, a 5 degree is showing that it used the $1 huge tube of paste for doing 100+ chips. If Intel can't spend $0.01 on a $300 CPU, then that's pitiful. The most expensive paste I've bought was $3.50 for Arctic Silver Ceramic, that was good enough for probably 8-10 CPUs, and I only spent that much because its rated somewhere at -150c and I was doing sub-zero cooling (silver based paste just doesn't work well at those temps apparently).
It is reliability. Because it will work, overclocked to 4.6 under 80 degrees which is a safe temp.
Pulssqt It should do much higher clocks without running so hot. That would be like me switching my AMD cooler for an Intel stock cooler, making it run 30c hotter and say, hey look it's reliable! It's the same thing.
Energy Core It's hard to believe that! If that's the case, how come the X-99 Series processors and Z97 Series processors have better thermals? The truth is that Intel skimped on cooling for their Skylake and Kabylake series processors.
YOU DIDN'T USE YOUR FINGER TO SPREAD THE THERMAL PASTE!
Don't worry I have tried B4 with liquid pro LOL, it just sticks to your finger, only way is the cotton bud.
What the hell Intel.. that paste is garbage..
seriously tho, i started watching the video expecting 1-3C difference, not 15..
+Misterblack83, weirdly enough he didn't show the difference at the same speeds. Those 15 degrees were at even higher clockspeeds and voltage
Yeah, It's almost like the paste is rotting in storage or something and they just don't care.
Overpriced CPUs with cheap paste. Intel is joking with everyone.
MisterBlack83 actually it would be about 20°C at 4.9-5GHz so that's huge
Some folks say it's not cheap thermal paste, but rather the Z-hight between the chip and the lid.
Nah this time around its definitely the paste, that rubberised feeling is paste that has gone pretty bad.
I just wanted to say I think it's very impressive you have been able to crank out quality content for a week straight.
Dafuq man, 33C in your room? I would be fucking dying!
Yea ik my room is at 14C, and I'm not joking when I say that because I always have my window open when its below freezing outside, I love the cold
Targaryen's World that's only like 70f that's not that hot
33c is 94f, now that is uncomfortable.
That's average Australian temperature right now
that temp doesn't bother me and I made it hotter in my room by running my xbox 360 nearly 24/7 2 to 3 summers ago. Good times.
About to do this myself. Thanks for the video seen a lot of people putting the liquid metal on the lid as well before squishing it together. Also heard about clear nail polish over the little gold contacts. Looks like yours is simple as it gets with promising results. Thanks again for the video
nice vid.
hardcore stuff
just what we need more of these days
keep it up man, subscribed twice
Can confirm. Delidded my 7700K and went from a 4.9Ghz OC throttling out at 100°C while gaming, up to a 5.1Ghz maxing out at about 78°C under extreme load and around 64°C while gaming. I used Conductonaut liquid metal for both the IHS and as thermal paste on my water cooler. These temps are better than I hoped. I definitely recommend using a delidding tool. It's worth the time and money.
Der8auer is a German extreme OverClocker, who also happens to make those high quality metal deliding kits as a sideline for extra cash.
Tech City one of the few chanels giving usefull and true info.
Thank you Bryan.
Nice video. 1st time seeing that cpu deliding kit and can see why. The new cpus are so skinny now.
Sorry to hear about the gpu issues. Hope it's simple like just an output being dead and not something serious.
+Tech City How can you deal with being in a room at 33C?!?! I get hot and bothered (Massive understatement) at anything over 20C. Might have something to do with growing up in the north of England next to the north sea...but still 33C :O
Danny Fleming I'm from up there too... your body is more resilient than you think. You can easily get used to the heat
Lol 33c is only slightly warm weather here in Aus.Where I used to live we had a heatwave last for 11 days where the coolest day was 43c and where a mate of mine lived here was getting 47-48c.
Pio Soesetio lol
Danny Fleming lol I have survived 46 degrees in france while i live in a cool country for example its -11 right now
Most of you are skipping humidity. A 30 degrees, hot and humid day can be much more unforgiving than it being dry and at 40 degrees. - There's more it it than the temperature.
Solid video B! Did you also use the liquid metal paste between the CPU and CPU Cooler?
Thanks Bryan! Just buying a delidded ivy and wondered what TIM to use, now i know
I thought you'd be putting the heatsink on the bare die but instead you replaced the thermal compound under the lid. Didn't know that's how its supposed to be done
just depends on how you wanna run it although some heatsinks won't screw down far enough to make proper contact directly with the die.
+BrainSeepsOut with how thin these cpus are you wouldn't even wanna risk it. There's a good chance of damaging them.
Delidded my 7700k about a year ago, still going strong. Maxes out mid 60s, before the delid it would spike at idle and hit 77c with a corsair h105.
so deliding eliminates spikes ??
Great video. You got some really good temps. I have watched a few videos before I de-lidded mine. Now I have de-lidded my 7700K on my P870X Laptop, I thought I'd come back here to post my results. These are my Temps (day 1):
All readings at 4.5Ghz 7700K Laptop:
Before de-lid, after stress test: 42c Min 99c Max 55c Avg
After de-lid, after stress test: 28c Min 79c Max 42c Avg
This will improve over time after the paste has ran in... hopefully...
Wait touching the chip with bare fingers doesn't mess it up? Because i was under the notion that body oil from fingers might interfered with the processor and that's why you hold it by the edge?
So you don't need a vice, just get that lil tool and hit it until it pops? What if you don't have a rubber mallet?
Good video - I just delidded my 6700k - my prime 95 28.7 with avx temps went from 87c to 63c @ 4.6ghz with ht on 1.3v in bios. Using a noctua u14s with the fan running at 900rpm. Ambient temp 23c. Used cool laboratory ultra on die and noctua nht1 on the heat sink- super solid results
his name is der8auer, or der bauer, aka The Builder. His name is Roman Hartung and he's selling a full can-opener style delid tool at caseking here in Berlin if you look for it.
Shame for Intel really. This is another reason to ignore 7xxx series and try Ryzen.
What if you just remove the IHS and clamp down the cooler? Would that work?
Sounds like reflowing the solder on that 280x is going to possibly happen. Just throw it outside for a little while, man!
It is ridiculous how hot it gets! I actually had to clock down my CPU to 3.9 ghz and lower the voltage in order to get a decent temp since all I was getting was 97 degrees out of the box
nice to finally find your channel, with ways of Understanding and pushing Tech.
I'm wondering....has anyone thought of skipping the Thermal paste and directly transferring the heat from the chip using some other way like a Peltier method??))
Why touch the base of the cpu at around 1:30. Wouldn't that potentially damage the cpu?
intel's chip is LGA, so no. AMD has their pin on the chip (PGA instead) so you might damage it if you hold it too hard that way.
Question - why don't people skip the IHS and put the heatsink + thermal paste directly on the CPU die? Could it break the CPU? Old AMD chips used to be bare like that.
Just learned about this delid stuff. Why can't a cooling block be applied directly to the chip without the lid? Like could you dremil around the top and use a mineral oil loop, or even a copper block water kit? or is there a grounding issue? Seems like ever material interface would just add to thermal insulation. Seems like for intel's next X series they could incorporate the water cooler into this lid and remove 2 layers.
Hey Brian , where can I watch that OC video you where referencing when you got 5.2 on the 7700k . Id like to watch you CB runs !
"There is a guy in Europe..." Shocked that you didn't know who Roman (Der 8auer) is!
Why didn't you use silicone to "close" it again?
I use Liquid Ultra. Same company, new formula to prevent sticking after a year.
Should be noted, this stuff is corrosive to aluminum. Only recommend for copper, I think nickel-plated is fine as well but don't take my word on it.
With that said, I used it on a EVO 212 which has partial aluminum contact. It's been well over a year and the aluminum did show signs of corrosion but the cooler performs like day one of application.
Hello, here in Brazil we do not have LiquidPro, could it be using another good quality thermal paste? Thank you
is it just me or does the i7 7700k run hotter then usual, at 70% load im running around 80 degrees, its been that way since ive had the system built, have also used Thermal grizzly Kyronaut from artic silver just on my head spreader didnt do anything even after around 200 hours it still runs hot, all cooler and ect is mounted correctly
what if u put too much liquid metal or from overtime usage it spreads down from DIE surface?did u removed and reaplied the silicone or u just left it like it was before deliding ?
mine got like 60° - 65° when 3D rendering. Do i need to delid ? i got a cooler master masterliquid 240 watercooler
You can also use heat resistant silicone to glue it back together.
How are you planning to fix the 280x? I have the same card and having the green screen and random crashing issues.
I would recommend delidding even if you aren't overclocking. I'm building a pc for my step-son and he lives 2500 miles from me so I can't just go take a look when something goes wrong. So once I finished building this Kaby Lake system the temps were eye-opening even at stock settings. My Haswell system is 30C cooler at a 50% OC. I couldn't bring myself to sending him a system and telling him, "Hey keep an eye on your temps while playing games since FutureMark was hitting upper 60s to low 70s." That's with a Corsair H100i V1 water cooler on it. So I bought RockIt delidding tool, which got to me in 3 days and I delidded last night. Tonight I will drop it in and see what temps I get now. It wasn't difficult to do with maybe the toughest part putting the new silicone on the IHS. Don't forget to leave a pinky-sized gap for venting or else it won't work. I'll provide an update tonight of what the temps are under a stress test of AIDA64.
Ok finished with my step-son's build. Before delidding, AIDA64 stress test for 30 minutes at stock settings hit 78C; keep in mind that was 3 days after I mounted the water block. After delidding, the same test hit 66C. I figure maybe 2 to 4C lower as the TIM cures under the CPU block. Not bad. Gaming temps playing Elder Scrolls Online hit 56C which is perfect. Even have some headroom for overclocking and this is with a h100i, which could be improved further with a custom loop.
Lol the way you handled that chip, and it works!
So I don't need to apply a silicone sealant to seal it back?
Thanks!
How do you function in that hot as room? Aussies don't like A/C or...?
Ever find out what why the 280x green screened in windows??
what drink is that in the background Brian? (left of your ultrawide)
webcam holder
Elijah Craig, kentucky bourbon :p
What's up,you should try this with fx8350
Btw:Intro music??I know that is from epidemicsound.com
Would this be good for mini itx builds? Seems like much lower temps all around?
I'm thinking a mild overlock on (4.4ghz) on a cryorig c7?
I watch your channel and I am wait for your Ryzen review. :)
Umm I need help guys.
I have a I5 3570 with a stock cooler, and when im gaming my temps are around 65-73C.
Idle temps are around 35-43. Is 70C safe for gaming?
what happens if u dont put the top thing and just cool it with out it?
is that some Elijah Craig in the background? Good drinking at an affordable price. The i5 of bourbon, haha. what's on top of it though?
Yeah, I love it :P, and my webcam is mounted on the bottle lol.
I hope Ryzen as the lid sodered to the die like they did with the fx cpu's. The heat dissipation on those was awesome.
2 Questions : 1st) It is safe just to leave it there without glue only with socket clamp hold it on? and 2nd) How often should i change the liquid from die? Thanks, great vid btw.
it's like you said brian , it's almost sad that they didnt use better stuff from the start. a 20 C drop is massive
Does the i5 7600k have this problem? I was thinking of going with that cpu but after seeing this I'm not sure
What compound do you use these days instead of the Coollaboratory Liquid Pro? Also what CPU cooler are you using?
OCUK in the UK also sell a delid kit Iirc?
It's not entirely on the thermal paste they used, it's more the distance between the IHS and the die that's causing issues. You could have the same thermal paste in your hands to apply that Intel used and just remove the sealant and allow the socket arm to hold it down and there would be an improvement.
are they intentionally manufacturing those chips with shitty thermal paste so that they have some 'reserve' when the Moore's law stops or slow down more?
I delidded my 4770K nearly 3 years ago & saw a 15C drop on my 4.5GHz OC, (roughly 85C down to 70C) i could have pushed further, but i was v happy with overall performance.
I'm still really happy i did it.
Tho the idea of having to de-lid X299 chips is kinda sad tbh..
I'm looking for a delid tool but I don't trust myself with a hammer lol
Energy Core i dont want to wait for shipping from Europe. i might get this tool called the rockit88
ab12
should be fine
I ordered the Rockit88 in the states and received it in 3 days. Delidding was simple and they also have a relidding tool if you want to use silicon to put it back together.
I know this is an older video, but what cooler where you using at the time? Sorry if you mentioned it in the video, I'm skimming this video.
My 7700k is oc to 5gh at 1.325v . I'm getting about 39c idle with and h100i. Is that normal? I feel like it should be lower.
so do you have to repast the is and / or what's the black stuff
Now you know what coffee lake is going to be ;)
honestly man, you are tech guru salute! where do you live?
did you just delete the TGW'S i was in the middle of watching the old ones....lol :(
Hey brian.
Is it okay to use the liquid ultra instead of liquid pro from coolaboratory?
20 degrees, what the hell did intel use Elmers glue?
need to delid my i7 6700 non K cause its cooking at 4.5ghz its has peaks at 85c° and often crashes... turned it down to 4.2ghz now peak is 72C lol but i want my 4.5 ghz...
Just used Rockit Cool's Rockit 88 delidding tool for my son's 3570k. I will be using it on my 6700k as well, but I thought I would start with his. The Rockit 88 made it SOOOOOO easy! I used Cool Laboratory's Liquid Ultra, and the results were unreal. Pre-delid I had the 3570k overclocked to 4.0Ghz, and the max temp was 82°C. Post-relid I overclocked to 4.5Ghz, and the max temp is 62°C! 20°C drop! Linus' test was garbage, and he replaced garbage thermal paste with more garbage thermal paste.
I just upgraded to 7700K on MSI M5 mobo with NZXT Kraken X60. Mine is running OC of 5ghz at 1.2v. But I noticed temperature spikes from 38 to 60 degrees on some of the cores. Is this normal?
will you make a video tutorial on overclocking i7 7700k with MSI z270 motherboard? i can't seem to find a stable setting for 5.0ghz 7700k... thank you
Green screen with that 280x? Mine had almost the same problem. It's dying Bryan....there's a slight chance a reflow to fix it but right now it might be utterly useless.
Gaius Trollius reflowing it wouldn't fix it, at best it would work for 4 to 5 weeks then die for good
Energy Core I see.....such a shame....they're powerful cards. Great for 1080p maxed out.
On reballling/reflowing: watch?v=1AcEt073Uds
Mr. Bryan you didn't mention what glue I need to use!? be more specific please because there are million types out there.
Would not cpu short if the cool laboratory liquid which is liquid metal gets to pcb or i am just thinking to much ???????????
tim serious liquid pro has a curing process, when the temperature of the CPU reaches 70 or 80° it will harden. You have to cook it into the CPU!
NeoVoodooTech but dont that mean your PC cant stay upright because it will drip down than during the curing or is the pressure high enough that even when the CPU is on its side the liquid wont move
I might try this on my Xeon e5-1620 V3 since it only turbos up to 3.6GHz. but i have about 15 degrees C of room to OC at stock frequencies. Any tips before I try this?
You did not mention that the warranty will be gone after you tapped the cpu with the hammer.
I don't think they add good thermal paste since the mass majority of the intel market usually stay in stock speeds for the rated compound and expect a small percentage of overclockers so they leave that up to them to delid and all that jazz.
So when you delid your cpu, do you reseal the IHS back onto the PCB after you put on the liquid metal thermal stuff? Or do you just leave the black gunk off. I'm upgrading to Kaby Lake soon mainly because i saw everyone going to 5ghz almost guaranteed, but noone was mentioning temperatures when they did this. Anyones input would be greatly appreciated.
So slot of people say it's safe with a kit. Even if I bucher it then will it still be fine? also do you put the lid back on?
Before delid i was running at 4.8ghz at temp 81-84. After delid and using Thermal Grizzly liquid metal i am running at 5ghz, temps from 60-63 at full load. Happy camper.
Why not just use a razer blade to cut around the lid of the cpu? that's what I did for a Pentium D and Pentium 4 I had.
So I am a bit confused. Are you removing the lid from this CPU so that you can replace the thermal paste under the lid?
yes
+TechCity could you do a video on an AMD FX processor like this?
where abouts in Australia do you live. just the state if ur a bit suspicious about my curiosity
I don't know if I just missed you saying this, but what cooler did you use to get the 5Ghz?
Get either the Delid Die Mate from Der8auer or the Rocket88 Delid tool. They are awesome. I also advice using CLU. And you can even relid it!
For anyone wondering I used UHU 46735 to glue the IHS back on. Don't forget to buy the appropiate relid kit!