You say there is nothing we can do, but there is. Simply don't buy it. It should have R-77, they are in game in other nations , there is no reason not to add them when it is accurate. Just because a line out misses a br rating is no excuse to remove weapons to make it fit, they could have modelled the hawk 200 to fill the br gap.
Simple solution: tech tree variant in an indian sub-tree in UK tree when they add Su-30 eventually. But yes, no R-77 no sale. Also Gaijin is lying on forums/bug report that it didn't have them irl.
They probably just don't want premium fox-3 slingers. It's not profitable. If people can just pay for fox-3's then they lose money from people buying a premium vehicle + premium time to grind fox-3's
all of you that are RAGED UP LIKE ME, let's go to report that to Gaijin as a bug: i alredy did it as soon as i download the patch. Don't forget to be salty as they deserve. they wanted us to pay 70 EUR for that thing without it's proper FOX 3, and all of that in the FOX 3 UPDATE. A FUCKING JOKE. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THAT.
This is my expectation as well, likely with a price raise. It’ll drive essentially a second set of buyers to the planes, be a windfall for Gaijin on sales, and be a big drive for new players to buy into top tier. It doesn’t help the player base but it’l drive far more sales, which is what Gaijin wants.
Look at the Mirage 2000C-S5, it is the exact same BR, has on par missiles, a way better airframe and so on. And the Bison doesn't even have the ER. Thats bullshit if you ask me
@@TheEverLastingRose no ones acting like a clown its facts, but youre definitely the player who only got there becuz of those premium players i dont care that people buy premiums but should never be at the expense of others people’s fun but even without that you shouldnt be able to wallet to the best jet/tier in the game and i dont even play WT like that anymore LMAO
If they add the E upgrade on the R-27s i will really consider it, after all, the deal with this MiG-21 is the same as the F-20, a 3+ gen plane to grind, thats it
Bison is going down to 11.7, and F-20 *without HMS, without R-73s*, and essentially being just an F-5 flight-performance-wise, is *staying at 12.0*. Is *THAT* a good idea???
I believe this is a good idea. 11.7 for a MiG-21Bis no matter how upgraded will be rough. R-77 would make it likely a 12.3 and I think it would get crushed if it ended up there. Really the only loadout I think could make sense is 4xR-73 but idk if it could carry that.
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 the MiG-21 lancer -C variant carried fox 3 missiles. So I was saying that maybe in the future this particular variant of MiG 21 will be the one carrying fox 3’s
@MatAWG In the first screenshot from Smin in the video it says that the FA.2 received the AMRAAM BOL Pods on the test server. I don't see any of that. Is that still coming?
@mich421 you can easily hit mid-long range targets with it, between 4km and 20km in range. That's 2 almost garunteed kills if you use them right. And then while they reat flares up, the R-60's are still capable of getting good kills from people who aren't paying attention or run out of flares
just a reminder, the 27ER was added as an alternative overreaction to the low USSR winrate at the time due to the premiums, and the 73 back then was extremely unstable so they slapped an experimental missile and made a vow to never give 12 its historical loadout
It is so stupid that wiki said this plane can put a R77 already, and the fucking manager still don't want I though WT is a very realistic game already besides its costing for 75usd I mean why we don't got total six AAM only 4 instead.
I agree,I was expecting to see R77 for the bison. The reason the snail doesn’t want to give it fox 3s is because it’s a premium!!! Gaijin are too scared of the whining tryhards claiming pay to win!!! This jet would of made gaijin so much money if it got fox 3s! Mig 21 itself is so popular with a lot of people,having a mig21 with fox 3s would of made them record sales,I’m sure of it. Won’t buy now,but I would of if the R77 were added. Gaijin dropped the ball on this one!!!
They have this shitty matchmaking system that has lower tier jets by 1 whole br go up against the tippity top tier yet wont give those lower jets their full weapons loadout is exactly how you balance things BABY WHOOOOOOO!!!!!
2:48 maybe a Danish or Dutch subtree for Germany (yes, the F-16 again, aka Sherman of the skies), but Gaijin just can't do it, they need to add the Netherlands for France and India for UK for whatever reason, while creating this fake sense of "nothing else to add for X country". Note: I'm not even a german main, but Gaijin is si dumb and out of touch with the reality that pisses me off
I considered buying it. But as of now without a 4xR73 loadout and no R77s i will not.
It's actually good that it didn't get r77 bc it would've suffered in top
it was never on the cards you were delusional
@@Franseven Cool Story
What are you doing with r77s at 11.7 lmao
Bro thought he will be able to buy ARH missiles this easily, cry more pls
You say there is nothing we can do, but there is. Simply don't buy it. It should have R-77, they are in game in other nations , there is no reason not to add them when it is accurate. Just because a line out misses a br rating is no excuse to remove weapons to make it fit, they could have modelled the hawk 200 to fill the br gap.
Simple solution: tech tree variant in an indian sub-tree in UK tree when they add Su-30 eventually. But yes, no R-77 no sale.
Also Gaijin is lying on forums/bug report that it didn't have them irl.
They probably just don't want premium fox-3 slingers. It's not profitable. If people can just pay for fox-3's then they lose money from people buying a premium vehicle + premium time to grind fox-3's
Lol anyone thinking UK tree is getting the Su-30MKII thats a Russian premium waiting to happen.
@123TheCloop you do realize fox 3's are already below 12.7 right? Harrier gets them at 12.3
@@fate3071They lose money because someone bought a fox 3 slinger?
all of you that are RAGED UP LIKE ME, let's go to report that to Gaijin as a bug: i alredy did it as soon as i download the patch. Don't forget to be salty as they deserve. they wanted us to pay 70 EUR for that thing without it's proper FOX 3, and all of that in the FOX 3 UPDATE. A FUCKING JOKE. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THAT.
My theory: They'll add the FOX-3 to the premiums (Bison, F-20 and Upcoming), when each nation has a tier 8 Premium.
This is my expectation as well, likely with a price raise. It’ll drive essentially a second set of buyers to the planes, be a windfall for Gaijin on sales, and be a big drive for new players to buy into top tier. It doesn’t help the player base but it’l drive far more sales, which is what Gaijin wants.
A reasonable assumption.
Hell nah
Look at the Mirage 2000C-S5, it is the exact same BR, has on par missiles, a way better airframe and so on. And the Bison doesn't even have the ER. Thats bullshit if you ask me
It is strong enough in 11.7 wiht HMD r73 and r27, especially when it also has GTM to search ground vehicles. Anyway, it wont meet su27sm or f15c.
no r77-no sale
Good shouldnt be able to buy the news content lmfao even the guys who GE the new planes still had to grind everything else so im just glad
@@ethancarter5717meh stop being a clown I almost have every tech tree done and I still don’t act like a 4 year old when someone wants a premium
@@TheEverLastingRose no ones acting like a clown its facts, but youre definitely the player who only got there becuz of those premium players i dont care that people buy premiums but should never be at the expense of others people’s fun but even without that you shouldnt be able to wallet to the best jet/tier in the game and i dont even play WT like that anymore LMAO
@@ethancarter5717 cry about it premium’s are the only reason you get to keep playing the game and having servers and players forehead
@@TheEverLastingRose cry about this cry about that youre the one mad lmao no mig21 premiums for you to farm. get good kiddo im chillin
If they add the E upgrade on the R-27s i will really consider it, after all, the deal with this MiG-21 is the same as the F-20, a 3+ gen plane to grind, thats it
Preorder good mig21 bison.
Gaijin reaction: Nerfs it just after.
I really want bison with 4x r-73 and r-77 but i also argue for this to be tech tree version.
free to play people want everything for free. lmao
No R-77, NO SALE!
Really expect them to add a 12.7 premium?
@@KNMRoaldAmundsen I expect vehicles to be historically accurate.
@@-RudeSeagull- so, aim-9x on the f-15c and iris-t on the gripen.
Bison is going down to 11.7, and F-20 *without HMS, without R-73s*, and essentially being just an F-5 flight-performance-wise, is *staying at 12.0*. Is *THAT* a good idea???
Might change, wait for the patch to cry
#No R-77 - No Sale
I believe this is a good idea. 11.7 for a MiG-21Bis no matter how upgraded will be rough. R-77 would make it likely a 12.3 and I think it would get crushed if it ended up there. Really the only loadout I think could make sense is 4xR-73 but idk if it could carry that.
Is gaijin giving PL12s to the JH7A? Why Mat always forget about this aircraft 😢
i dont think so. its not in dev server as of now but could be added later
Maybe they will bring the MiG-21 LanceR-C with FOX -3
Plz explain
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 the MiG-21 lancer -C variant carried fox 3 missiles. So I was saying that maybe in the future this particular variant of MiG 21 will be the one carrying fox 3’s
main cake not only the ARH missile too, but it said that this thing able to bring Python 4/5.... God forbid that thing having proper LOAL capability
@MatAWG
In the first screenshot from Smin in the video it says that the FA.2 received the AMRAAM BOL Pods on the test server. I don't see any of that. Is that still coming?
wouldnt be a problem if they implemented dynamic BRs for weapon loadouts
they should atleast add one with r77's as a tech tree plane then
They said it in the forum 2 days ago already and everyone claimed i was lying when i posted it in the comments)))
Id rather get the Brazilian AMX since i will be getting the same vehicles that britan has anyway.
I reccon it will get R-77 within the next couple of updates
Such excellent commentary from the first commenters...
I dont buy it without the R-77. No Problem.
If this mig is 12.0 with R73 why not give them to the original mig 29 too
Cuz it already have R-27ER
Because original MiG-29 gets 2x R-27ER and 4x R-60M
This gets 2x R-73 and 2x R-27R.
Er it's not good at short range it's a radar missile
@mich421 you can easily hit mid-long range targets with it, between 4km and 20km in range. That's 2 almost garunteed kills if you use them right. And then while they reat flares up, the R-60's are still capable of getting good kills from people who aren't paying attention or run out of flares
just a reminder, the 27ER was added as an alternative overreaction to the low USSR winrate at the time due to the premiums, and the 73 back then was extremely unstable so they slapped an experimental missile and made a vow to never give 12 its historical loadout
It is so stupid that wiki said this plane can put a R77 already, and the fucking manager still don't want
I though WT is a very realistic game already
besides
its costing for 75usd
I mean why we don't got total six AAM only 4 instead.
Im not buying it cus its not unique enough. With R-77s and 12.0 or 12.3 max BR, it has more value to me.
no r77 no sale
I think this is a good idea for this MIG, but please give us the R-27ER instead LOL.
I agree,I was expecting to see R77 for the bison. The reason the snail doesn’t want to give it fox 3s is because it’s a premium!!! Gaijin are too scared of the whining tryhards claiming pay to win!!! This jet would of made gaijin so much money if it got fox 3s! Mig 21 itself is so popular with a lot of people,having a mig21 with fox 3s would of made them record sales,I’m sure of it. Won’t buy now,but I would of if the R77 were added. Gaijin dropped the ball on this one!!!
if in real life it has R77 makes absolutely no sense not to add it. What can this plane do against Fox 3 planes?
All fox 3 planes are going to be 13.0. Meaning that it won't face them.
@@thatguy46744it can face the f4f ice
Nope its stupid, the one caveat of that airframe is the R-77 and the RADAR, they could put it at the same BR as the SHAR and it would have been fine.
They have this shitty matchmaking system that has lower tier jets by 1 whole br go up against the tippity top tier yet wont give those lower jets their full weapons loadout is exactly how you balance things BABY WHOOOOOOO!!!!!
2:48 maybe a Danish or Dutch subtree for Germany (yes, the F-16 again, aka Sherman of the skies), but Gaijin just can't do it, they need to add the Netherlands for France and India for UK for whatever reason, while creating this fake sense of "nothing else to add for X country".
Note: I'm not even a german main, but Gaijin is si dumb and out of touch with the reality that pisses me off
will this be a pack or GE premium?
Every premium vehicle that gets added at 10.0 or higher come as packs
@@fate3071in exception with helicopter
@sidtasker2937 I don't play ground so I honestly forget helicopters exist
@@fate3071 😂
F22 in two years
10.7???? So the Bison fights the A7E???? What the fuck
Why you comparing it to an american attacker lmao
11.7 not 10.7
Are you deaf ?
@@dannycage8672 Do you mean are you blind can't really hear you through the screen can we?
@@pradyun9874 yes, considering a full Uptier for the A7E
there should be a better version of the bison with r77 in the TT
why would anyone want R-77s on it when the Bison being 11.7 with R-27s means you will never meet 13.0 while having a good kit
Because those of us who will play it have hands and you don't.
premium with R-77s is everything Gaijin shouldn't do, that is extending the problem of premium vehicles even more...
Almost full techtree with F.53. No need to buy this if you just wbt to grind techtree
Banana
No r77 is better. With it it will face 13.0 and will be doomed. in 11.7, I think it is fair. just like the mirage 200C
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First!
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stop advocating for pay to win stuff
It's not pay to win. The majority of people who buy these premium top tier planes are just food for those who know how to actually play top tier jets.
Where is he advocating for it?
@@akthewareagle8595 the part where he says the premium mig 21 should get R-77s