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the common rule is that you can usually wear anything that's not distracting, disruptive, or inappropriate for school. it depends on the specific school
@@lillii9119 You still gotta record that man, your script can say "xx seconds" as a placeholder but you'll still have to record and time it carefully to get it right before you edit it into 48 secs
My school always flip-flopped between "students don't have constitutional rights on school property" and "minors don't have rights and the parents' rights don't extend to the kids"
by that argument the arm bands would also be distracting and disruptive, actually anything could arbitrarily be labeled as distracting and disruptive by an authority figure
99% of the time the school would claim that it's disruptive anyway. They'd write you up for disrespectful or disruptive behavior if you try to point out the fact that nobody gives a shit if you're wearing a tank top or a t-shirt beneath a hoodie that makes it impossible to see what you're wearing anyway
@@LibrocreatesL2 like my geography teacher that threw a temper tantrum over my undershirt slightly poking out from my collar. It was November and 3°C outside.
Yeah, it's vague and broad on purpose, because you can't predict future and you can't objectively define what distracting, disruptive or inappropriate is. People need to use their brains more.
It was really annoying when the teacher would stop everything to point out a distraction no one even noticed. After a while, I'd think to myself, "Are we learning about WW2 or playing I spy?" Still so happy I'm out of school.
@@kahmalmason5919How is it not how attraction works? A teacher is an authority figure that spends a lot of time near children, if the thought that someone is a child doesn't immediately kill all attraction for you then you shouldn't be a teacher
I used to wear my mask past the rule of wearing masks in school. I am the most quiet and reserved kid and never ever did anything disruptive. But still my teachers called my parents to school just to get my mask off. I now feel even more violated
My favorite part is the teacher trowing the tantrum is what caused the problem if he was left alone there would be no distraction in the first place very accurate to real life.
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Last year, I wore a mask that I made in school, but the teacher told me to take it off, because apparently, "they need to my face so that they know what I'm doing.", which makes no sense.
I think it's so that when you do something bad, it's easier to recognize you? That's what my teacher said when I was still in school as to why we couldn't wear hoodies.
The teacher disrupting the class because of the covering, is not the covering being disruptive, it's the teacher. It has to be distracting or disrupting the students
@@gustavju4686 I probably would too tbh, however the teacher in the video tried saying the Time they lost from the teacher throwing a fit was the hats fault, which was the point if my comment
Unfortunately, too bad they can, will and have abused their authority to claim it was distracting to other students. Happened to me a few times. Ruling means jack fucking diddly when everyone will sooner side with the adult than some kid, even less so if you aren't well off or well known(in a good way).
Ngl this kind of reminded me of how after covid I was the only student who still kept wearing their mask to the point nobody knew how I looked until a year or so later. I still remember vividly asking something to the teacher and she was like “Damn I’m sorry ___, I couldn’t recognize you” 😭😭
I only wore a mask when it was required by the property owner. That was their right to require for entry into their property. They've only really proved effective to reduce spittle. In many cases they're worse than wearing nothing because you're basically wearing a petri dish on your face if you're not changing it out regularly. It was basically just a placebo to keep people from panicking and if you're a conspiracy theorist an experiment to see how much control they can exhibit utilizing fear.
@@Man-dd7fd you're being too literal with this one. Assume the bag or object in question didn't negatively affect anyone but a teacher decided to make a big deal about it regardless.
@@lillii9119I don't think that is what they were getting at, some teachers will make mountains out of moles over the stupidest things. I once got in trouble for being on my phone in class, the funny part, I DIDN'T OWN A CELL PHONE! That teacher probably felt like a damn fool when she got called into the principal's office with me.
@@lillii9119in the video he refers to the fact that the student couldn’t hear was distracting and how it took time from the lesson as disruptive I’m sure they go hand in hand in someways but in the context of what was said it was only disruptive because the teacher took the time from the class to talk to the student to get him to take it off the teacher made the disruption himself
The thing is that they use the "distracting or disruptive" to screw over students. Because, if you've been involved in stuff like this, the teachers are the ones making things distracting and disruptive. I did love when this happened in middle school when we had different teachers because I was like "well x, y and z, were perfectly able to teach their class"
@@TheCurrentVtg This happened with white teachers in my mostly black school a lot. I think that internally, they feel it makes you look like a "thug" lol. It's less about distraction and it's more-so how you appear to them.
Teacher’s view: Hoodie = criminal Beanie = also criminal Seriously I wore my beanie to school today (because surprise surprise it was freaking COLD) and my choir teacher confiscated my BEANIE
@@lillii9119it's the same here. Just because you try to wear a hat indoors doesn't make you thug! You European people act like you're so much better than us. In reality you guys are the thugs!
Mike my school gave out a google forms that was mandatory and had to be turned in and when my parents were doing it they ran into a problem, the google forms would only let you submit it if you agreed to the school’s bathroom policy, the policy gives you a limited amount of bathroom passes and if you run out of them you can’t go to the bathroom, and if you go to the bathroom without using it in one of my classes you could get a tardy, a certain amount of tardiness will give you a lunch detention and eventually a in school suspension, this is a huge problem because my parents don’t agree to the policy due to the fact that kids can’t control if they get constipated, have diarrhea, or are just on their periods, these bathroom passes are supposed to last for the whole school year and you only get ten, going to the bathroom during switching period is not a good idea either since you only get three minutes to get from class to class, my school forced my parents to agree to a policy that they don’t agree with, is that even legal?
It's not legal. Your parents can sue. Such a policy is dangerous for the safety of students, both for their physical health and mental well-being. It also goes against your constitutional rights. Not even prisoners can be prevented from using the toilet.
Absolutely Sue.I have never ever heard of this rule. It is again Children's physical and Mental health. And The Principal is most likely to be Mental illness.It such a devil.
And who decides what's disruptive?Because so far, the only thing I've seen in schools.That is considered disruptive is oh no a girl is showing her shoulders and the only people that seem to care is the teachers
At certain ages of students,it can be very distracting, especially if she's good looking. And they are not about to make rules just for good looking people. ("It's ok,you can wear that,your not that attractive"😂)
Ironically, many teachers who complain about students wearing disruptive stuff, are the ones who clad themselves like that every day. Yet, if the student confronts them about it (through a principal or directly face to face), the student gets punished instead.
@@AlexSanchez-gd7wbit’s not their fault they’re attractive though, schools should be teaching students to keep their eyes on their work instead of eachother, not enabling it.
Except that it is literally US history. The degree to which people protested the Vietnam War, and the counter protesters that opposed them, are a very important part of our nation's history that doesn't really get talked about as much as it should. A Supreme Court case that dates back to and stems from the political and civil turmoil of that period is absolutely a valid topic to have in a US History classroom.
That's true. As a Vietnamese, even though I, personally, love those kids for what they did, agree. Loyalty to your country is important, no matter what. Yes, what the US did (personally for me) is wrong, but I can totally understand why they bought the kids to court.
What would “disruptive” mean? Like, if I have something that isn’t distracting to me or anyone else in class, but the teacher decides to be disruptive about it, is it still my fault?
@@someperson9998 That is the point, the teacher will throw it to the courts, the courts will keep throwing it upwards until each specific case is judged by the SC. It's meant to say that it's legal while, de facto, you will still be punished for it and only someone extremely wealthy or influential will ever see the SC even judge their case over it.
Just had a thought, because: "Surely the school would just expell them" but then again public school is a government entity. so that would be a violation of the 1st amendment... but could a private school just expell you for it?
Can you really claim an item is distracting if it's just the teacher making a fuss over nothing? It would be pretty fucked up if an authority figure could baselessly claim an item is distracting.
@@overlorddante That's exactly how it works. You have no power and authority figures are free to abuse there position as they see fit with little to no consequences.
Depends on the item. Paper bag? Definitely yes. Hoodie? No. One of those hats with the spinning propeller on top? 100%. An armband protesting a war? I would say no unless it causes active disruption from students arguing in class instead of paying attention.
And the thing is, when kids wear something to express themselves or something deviating from the norm...nobody finds an issue with it, it's always the teachers who find a problem with it and they are the one disturbing and disrupting 🙄
@@Yisraelamundasstill within the students rights.schools are no longer abouts education alone. They are the cultural and political organizational core of a increasingly concerned youth about how adults are missing shit up.
I got detention because i accidentally farted once while standing up, i quickly sat back down out of embarrassment and the teacher claimed i lifted my butt to fart.
Sometimes this will have you starting a piece of paper that most kids don't read, but usually that piece of paper tells that you're giving up some of your amendment rights to be there or you would be terminated from that school
“The protest armband you are wearing is distracting and disruptive, take it off.” Basically school can de facto get you to take off whenever they want you to takeoff.
@@JakeyBro69 to be fair it's the teacher's own prerogative that they wasted 48 seconds, though. Meaning the teacher could use that argument to say whatever they disliked at all would be 'disruptive'
@@escapetherace1943 This was the example when I was in Highschool, if it's able to catch the teacher's attention, and they have the inability to not ignore it, they use that to justify "less developed" brains from being unable to ignore the flashy/abnormal thing, despite it being a great teaching example of keeping focused on your career. Just use it as an example instead of trying to penalize a student for self expression because it "challenges your authoritative stance in the classroom". Most cases that's what it boils down to, a teacher misquotes a school policy, the students (who basically get quizzed on school policy every year) corrects them or finds a loophole, and the teacher takes it as an insult to their leadership.
First Mike said it was distracting. Second, it’s distracting because you need to hear a teacher when they are teaching a lesson. Schools can’t make you wear glasses or actually learn anything but they can enforce a dress code
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I disagree that talking about something someone is wearing is disruptive, then they can say that they argued about the peace bands so it was disruptive, and literally anything else they want
1st amendment just means that the government isn't allowed to censor you. But private citizens, particularly your parents have the right to react to speech how they see fit. That's not a violation of the 1st.
Adding onto what@@thelemurofmadagascar9183 said, it was ruled in this case that children keep their 1st Amendment rights when entering a school, meaning that the school board can't suspend or expel you for excerscing them at school unless they're proven to be offensive or disruptive. The way school's determine whether or not to take action is through what's called the Tinker Test.
When I was in high school, my principal mentioned that at the beginning of the year when your parents sign the emergency card, they are signing away all of your constitutional rights. That's why schools are allowed to search your bags whenever they want even without your consent.
@@MegaMaxwell95 Your principal lied to you because your rights cannot be waived. It's not surprising considering school administrations are very authoritarian by nature.
My home (Vietnam) won the war. And one of the reasons leading to victory was also come from American’s peace protests against the war (Which was one of the reasons forced the White house to stop the war). Many people sacrificed their lives for the victory against the U.S. But now, it’s nice to see the war ended and our relationship developing in peace.
We (American here) COULD have won, if our politicians weren't deliberately sabotaging us and forcing the people fighting to do things like throw themselves directly into anti-air defenses. But I guess those military contractor CEOs who made far more than the people actually fighting and dying had to feed their families somehow. Honestly though, I'm kinda glad we lost. They say it was to stop the spread of communism, but really, it was just a money-making war. I'm glad those students saw it for what it was.
1st amendment protects you from government persecution so yes. You should also wear it so people know to talk very slow and use words with less than 3 syllables.
I learned about this situation, I live in iowa and learned about this my senior year, to me it was very confusing and this video made the situation very clearer
I actually just learned about the arm band thing in my av production class, I also learned about the rights in the first amendment in the bill of rights
A problem with that law is that teachers will be spiteful and purposely make it disruptive or distracting by making a fuss about it, its a common tactic in every school and not a single time a student was being actually distracting or disruptive until a teacher took issue with it
I think for the most part armbands should be perfectly fine so long as they don't have proven gang symbols or something like a swastika. A head covering on the other hand like something that completely obscures your face that I definitely understand that not being allowed in school.
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the common rule is that you can usually wear anything that's not distracting, disruptive, or inappropriate for school. it depends on the specific school
Nah we have to wear shirts with the school logo on them 💀
Good thing it's legal in the sims
In other words, common sense
@@viorry1829 yeah
What can you even wear to cover your face that isn’t considered “distracting”?
The teacher said 48 seconds right at the 48 second mark. Mike is good at perfectly timing the script!
Editing.
@@lillii9119 You still gotta record that man, your script can say "xx seconds" as a placeholder but you'll still have to record and time it carefully to get it right before you edit it into 48 secs
@@harmonydew6486Editing
@@harmonydew6486 you know you can just record the first part of the script,then just say X seconds depending on how long did it take,right?
@@kewinzabojca7226 u still gotta record that specific clip, and time exactly when you started that statement up until you mention the timestamp
Recently, many schools banned kids from wearing all black clothing. I wonder if that could be successfully challenged on 1st Amendment grounds?
Doesn't matter. Parents have to sue. Minors don't have the power to do anything legally.
Actually minors can sue @@petelee2477
I weared all black today
@@petelee2477No parent is going to sue over black clothes, you kids overexaggerated so much nowadays
@@MSB-Benchmarkingyou’d be surprised
"Distracting or disruptive"
Dude it was an armband with a peace symbol on it.
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a cult?
a group?
a systematic resistance?
no disruption at all, just coordinated rebellion.
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My school always flip-flopped between "students don't have constitutional rights on school property" and "minors don't have rights and the parents' rights don't extend to the kids"
Children are one of the most oppressed groups
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So that means parents can abuse kids?
Calling it disruptive purely because the teacher got upset over it and made a disruption instead of the kid is honestly really fitting for a classroom
Thank you I was literally gonna say that. It’s only disruptive cause the teacher made it so
The kid also said he couldn't hear very well so he's distracting himself
I've always hated this about the system: if the teacher makes a problem out of it, that's not the kid's fault, it's the teacher's own fault.
I guess that is what happens when you don't specifically outline what counts as "distracting and disruptive". That makes it subjective.
@@Lucy-uu7bb erm i think he was joking
by that argument the arm bands would also be distracting and disruptive, actually anything could arbitrarily be labeled as distracting and disruptive by an authority figure
Yeah it sounds incredibly flawed and easy to abuse. Especially when the school district would always be in favour of the teachers’ opinions.
Public schools 101 basically
mhm My high school banned yoga pants on the grounds that they're distracting and disruptive.
@@catherinecat6182that definitely makes more sense
@@catherinecat6182 I don’t understand how they even rationalize that to themselves. They’re just a pants lol
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99% of the time the school would claim that it's disruptive anyway. They'd write you up for disrespectful or disruptive behavior if you try to point out the fact that nobody gives a shit if you're wearing a tank top or a t-shirt beneath a hoodie that makes it impossible to see what you're wearing anyway
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«distracting, disruptive, or inappropriate» sounds purposefully broad and vague
Right like the Chevron decision!
Like protests on campuses…
because it is
if a teacher wants he can throw a fit over what you wear because he finds it distracting , because the law says so
@@LibrocreatesL2 like my geography teacher that threw a temper tantrum over my undershirt slightly poking out from my collar. It was November and 3°C outside.
Yeah, it's vague and broad on purpose, because you can't predict future and you can't objectively define what distracting, disruptive or inappropriate is. People need to use their brains more.
It was really annoying when the teacher would stop everything to point out a distraction no one even noticed. After a while, I'd think to myself, "Are we learning about WW2 or playing I spy?" Still so happy I'm out of school.
It counts if the teacher is distracted they're apart of the class too.
@@kahmalmason5919is the teacher really distracted by a teenage girl’s shoulders or knees? Because if so, that’s really concerning.
@wonkkwonkk2416 not totally how attraction works but you have part of a point. So how long will you argue with a teacher on this particular point?
@@kahmalmason5919How is it not how attraction works? A teacher is an authority figure that spends a lot of time near children, if the thought that someone is a child doesn't immediately kill all attraction for you then you shouldn't be a teacher
@@kahmalmason5919not ready, they're teaching the class.
I used to wear my mask past the rule of wearing masks in school. I am the most quiet and reserved kid and never ever did anything disruptive. But still my teachers called my parents to school just to get my mask off.
I now feel even more violated
I wish students would just have some freedom
My favorite part is the teacher trowing the tantrum is what caused the problem if he was left alone there would be no distraction in the first place very accurate to real life.
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Not all people who wear masks have social anxiety
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Wouldn't have been a distraction if the teacher didn't decide to get caught on it
Which is a distraction
Nah
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The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
I'm sorry, what?
Last year, I wore a mask that I made in school, but the teacher told me to take it off, because apparently, "they need to my face so that they know what I'm doing.", which makes no sense.
I think it's so that when you do something bad, it's easier to recognize you? That's what my teacher said when I was still in school as to why we couldn't wear hoodies.
@@MachinaOwl makes sense.
@@MachinaOwlif that's the case, they should've said that
or see you are chewing gum or yawn
I think they mean identify you
The US in far too many cases worries about optics instead of education.
The teacher disrupting the class because of the covering, is not the covering being disruptive, it's the teacher. It has to be distracting or disrupting the students
Tbh, I probably would keep glancing at the guy wearing the bag if that happened back when I was in school 😅
@@gustavju4686 I probably would too tbh, however the teacher in the video tried saying the Time they lost from the teacher throwing a fit was the hats fault, which was the point if my comment
@MediumHeatJazz like Mike said the student could barely hear. Which makes it a distraction.
Unfortunately, too bad they can, will and have abused their authority to claim it was distracting to other students. Happened to me a few times. Ruling means jack fucking diddly when everyone will sooner side with the adult than some kid, even less so if you aren't well off or well known(in a good way).
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I think people cared about iowa herbert hover was president, not when we where hit hurricane force wind in 2020.
@@iamN0tTheGoat it’s true, down where I am, no one talks about Iowa, not a single person
I was literally about to comment that
when he said "We spended 48 seconds" it actually hit 48 seconds lol, good job Mike
The thing is though, distractive or disruptive is so vauge, some teachers will call whatever they don't like that.
Ngl this kind of reminded me of how after covid I was the only student who still kept wearing their mask to the point nobody knew how I looked until a year or so later. I still remember vividly asking something to the teacher and she was like “Damn I’m sorry ___, I couldn’t recognize you” 😭😭
I still wear the mask lol, at this point it’s comfortable
I only wore a mask when it was required by the property owner. That was their right to require for entry into their property.
They've only really proved effective to reduce spittle. In many cases they're worse than wearing nothing because you're basically wearing a petri dish on your face if you're not changing it out regularly. It was basically just a placebo to keep people from panicking and if you're a conspiracy theorist an experiment to see how much control they can exhibit utilizing fear.
Why did you keep wearing it?
"no one cared for me intel I started mask.
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It was only disruptive cause the teacher made it so, if the teacher ignored it than it wouldn't of been so its not disruptive
…No since the student with a bag over his head admitted to having a harder time hearing. Did you watch the video? Just curious.
@@Man-dd7fd you're being too literal with this one. Assume the bag or object in question didn't negatively affect anyone but a teacher decided to make a big deal about it regardless.
@@overlorddante "Assume the problem doesn't exist, therefore the problem doesn't exist. QED"
@@lillii9119I don't think that is what they were getting at, some teachers will make mountains out of moles over the stupidest things. I once got in trouble for being on my phone in class, the funny part, I DIDN'T OWN A CELL PHONE! That teacher probably felt like a damn fool when she got called into the principal's office with me.
@@lillii9119in the video he refers to the fact that the student couldn’t hear was distracting and how it took time from the lesson as disruptive I’m sure they go hand in hand in someways but in the context of what was said it was only disruptive because the teacher took the time from the class to talk to the student to get him to take it off the teacher made the disruption himself
The thing is that they use the "distracting or disruptive" to screw over students. Because, if you've been involved in stuff like this, the teachers are the ones making things distracting and disruptive. I did love when this happened in middle school when we had different teachers because I was like "well x, y and z, were perfectly able to teach their class"
I mean I wouldn’t call a paper bag with eyeholes not distracting but I see your point
@@mikethedemon2456 Well, children don't wear paper bags exclusively, do they?
Yeah like certain teachers letting you have a hat or hood up but others saying it affects their teaching because of ever undisclosed reasons
@@TheCurrentVtg This happened with white teachers in my mostly black school a lot. I think that internally, they feel it makes you look like a "thug" lol. It's less about distraction and it's more-so how you appear to them.
Some introverts (including me) wears face masks, because of insecurity and fear of being judged
Me: “ put on my hoodie”
Teacher: *”Take That Sh*t OFF”*
Teacher’s view:
Hoodie = criminal
Beanie = also criminal
Seriously I wore my beanie to school today (because surprise surprise it was freaking COLD) and my choir teacher confiscated my BEANIE
This is like... normal everyday clothing
The only valid reason to take it would be if you were wearing the beanie inside.
I wouldn't let them steal the beanie
@@lillii9119wearing a beanie inside is perfectly fine
@@crazyarcher2029 Here in Europe it's considered rude to wear a hat inside. Not my fault if Americans a became thugs upon changing continent
@@lillii9119it's the same here. Just because you try to wear a hat indoors doesn't make you thug! You European people act like you're so much better than us. In reality you guys are the thugs!
i agree with the dude that said he's evading taxes
Wouldn’t it only be considered disruptive if other people make it an issue? If no one cares it’s neither distracting or disruptive.
Mike my school gave out a google forms that was mandatory and had to be turned in and when my parents were doing it they ran into a problem, the google forms would only let you submit it if you agreed to the school’s bathroom policy, the policy gives you a limited amount of bathroom passes and if you run out of them you can’t go to the bathroom, and if you go to the bathroom without using it in one of my classes you could get a tardy, a certain amount of tardiness will give you a lunch detention and eventually a in school suspension, this is a huge problem because my parents don’t agree to the policy due to the fact that kids can’t control if they get constipated, have diarrhea, or are just on their periods, these bathroom passes are supposed to last for the whole school year and you only get ten, going to the bathroom during switching period is not a good idea either since you only get three minutes to get from class to class, my school forced my parents to agree to a policy that they don’t agree with, is that even legal?
It's not legal. Your parents can sue. Such a policy is dangerous for the safety of students, both for their physical health and mental well-being. It also goes against your constitutional rights. Not even prisoners can be prevented from using the toilet.
Absolutely Sue.I have never ever heard of this rule. It is again Children's physical and Mental health. And The Principal is most likely to be Mental illness.It such a devil.
mike not only law but teaching historical lessons
And who decides what's disruptive?Because so far, the only thing I've seen in schools.That is considered disruptive is oh no a girl is showing her shoulders and the only people that seem to care is the teachers
They let girls wear skin-tight yoga pants and tops but freak out over a shoulder 😂
At certain ages of students,it can be very distracting, especially if she's good looking. And they are not about to make rules just for good looking people. ("It's ok,you can wear that,your not that attractive"😂)
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Ironically, many teachers who complain about students wearing disruptive stuff, are the ones who clad themselves like that every day. Yet, if the student confronts them about it (through a principal or directly face to face), the student gets punished instead.
@@AlexSanchez-gd7wbit’s not their fault they’re attractive though, schools should be teaching students to keep their eyes on their work instead of eachother, not enabling it.
Except that it is literally US history. The degree to which people protested the Vietnam War, and the counter protesters that opposed them, are a very important part of our nation's history that doesn't really get talked about as much as it should. A Supreme Court case that dates back to and stems from the political and civil turmoil of that period is absolutely a valid topic to have in a US History classroom.
That's true. As a Vietnamese, even though I, personally, love those kids for what they did, agree. Loyalty to your country is important, no matter what. Yes, what the US did (personally for me) is wrong, but I can totally understand why they bought the kids to court.
What would “disruptive” mean? Like, if I have something that isn’t distracting to me or anyone else in class, but the teacher decides to be disruptive about it, is it still my fault?
It depends on the school's rules. But if the teacher is reasonably distracted then the school will take the teacher's side.
@@Devsord637 How exactly is reasonable defined?
@@petelee2477 You'll know it when you see it. Also there is a dress code at each school
@@Devsord637 "You'll know it when you see it." So the arbitrary whims of flawed teachers?
@@someperson9998 That is the point, the teacher will throw it to the courts, the courts will keep throwing it upwards until each specific case is judged by the SC. It's meant to say that it's legal while, de facto, you will still be punished for it and only someone extremely wealthy or influential will ever see the SC even judge their case over it.
In Australia, it’s actually illegal to wear hoodies because they might think they’re a different person
Eyy Tinker v Des Moines. What a classic
Just had a thought, because: "Surely the school would just expell them" but then again public school is a government entity. so that would be a violation of the 1st amendment... but could a private school just expell you for it?
Probably
Can you really claim an item is distracting if it's just the teacher making a fuss over nothing? It would be pretty fucked up if an authority figure could baselessly claim an item is distracting.
Yep that’s how it works a teacher can arbitrarily punish you while you have no power to do anything
@@overlorddante That's exactly how it works. You have no power and authority figures are free to abuse there position as they see fit with little to no consequences.
all it takes is just for a student to say it is distracting for the teacher to be right even if the student is also making baseless claims
Depends on the item. Paper bag? Definitely yes. Hoodie? No. One of those hats with the spinning propeller on top? 100%. An armband protesting a war? I would say no unless it causes active disruption from students arguing in class instead of paying attention.
@@petelee2477Yeah, and it's the same for parents.
Teacher: take it off
Billy: Bet *grabs an AR*
And the thing is, when kids wear something to express themselves or something deviating from the norm...nobody finds an issue with it, it's always the teachers who find a problem with it and they are the one disturbing and disrupting 🙄
Some people should be REQUIRED to hide their faces
I argue that the point of a protest is to be disruptive.
No? No protest can't disrupt anything otherwise it's illegal
@@Hamzatuss why do anything if it doesn't matter, if you can just be ignored then your protest is pointless
@@Hamzatussboot lickers heads gonna explode when they realize the reason disruptive protest is illegal is to control you into never fighting back
paper bag yes, armband isn't really distracting
But it’s irrelevant to school
@@Yisraelamundasthen ignore it dumb*ss
@@Yisraelamundasall items of clothing are irrelevant to school. please go to school naked.
@@Yisraelamundasstill within the students rights.schools are no longer abouts education alone. They are the cultural and political organizational core of a increasingly concerned youth about how adults are missing shit up.
@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 The armband case shows that has been the case for several generations (all the way back to when Boomers were young)
I got detention because i accidentally farted once while standing up, i quickly sat back down out of embarrassment and the teacher claimed i lifted my butt to fart.
And they wonder why students hate them...
Sometimes this will have you starting a piece of paper that most kids don't read, but usually that piece of paper tells that you're giving up some of your amendment rights to be there or you would be terminated from that school
Ah, i remember learning this is in 7th grade how the time flies by
Anything can be disruptive if one side decides to argue for long enough.
“The protest armband you are wearing is distracting and disruptive, take it off.” Basically school can de facto get you to take off whenever they want you to takeoff.
How is not being able to hear disruptive 😭😭🤚
It’s disruptive towards yourself because you’re wearing something that keeps you from hearing the teacher
@@JakeyBro69 to be fair it's the teacher's own prerogative that they wasted 48 seconds, though. Meaning the teacher could use that argument to say whatever they disliked at all would be 'disruptive'
@@escapetherace1943 This was the example when I was in Highschool, if it's able to catch the teacher's attention, and they have the inability to not ignore it, they use that to justify "less developed" brains from being unable to ignore the flashy/abnormal thing, despite it being a great teaching example of keeping focused on your career. Just use it as an example instead of trying to penalize a student for self expression because it "challenges your authoritative stance in the classroom". Most cases that's what it boils down to, a teacher misquotes a school policy, the students (who basically get quizzed on school policy every year) corrects them or finds a loophole, and the teacher takes it as an insult to their leadership.
First Mike said it was distracting. Second, it’s distracting because you need to hear a teacher when they are teaching a lesson. Schools can’t make you wear glasses or actually learn anything but they can enforce a dress code
bro my school doesnt let me wear a HOOD on my head 💀
Im in canada and my school doesnt allow it because they wanna make sure your not a random person
How about a wearing Niqab in Your school?
He tried the Mono cosplay.😂
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Bro summoned a whole fandom 💀
Little Nightmares 2? Mono's Paper Bag?
@@Six-v4fyea I think he’s talkin bout that
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@@inker_monkey RAHHHHHH
@@Six-v4f the grinch and that yea
It only became distracting and disruptive because of the teacher having a fit over it. 😂
Hey lawbymike thanks for telling use all of these tips 😊
I disagree that talking about something someone is wearing is disruptive, then they can say that they argued about the peace bands so it was disruptive, and literally anything else they want
What first amendment rights? If kids had them then punishing them for "don't talk back to me" would be illegal.
1st amendment just means that the government isn't allowed to censor you. But private citizens, particularly your parents have the right to react to speech how they see fit. That's not a violation of the 1st.
Adding onto what@@thelemurofmadagascar9183 said, it was ruled in this case that children keep their 1st Amendment rights when entering a school, meaning that the school board can't suspend or expel you for excerscing them at school unless they're proven to be offensive or disruptive. The way school's determine whether or not to take action is through what's called the Tinker Test.
When I was in high school, my principal mentioned that at the beginning of the year when your parents sign the emergency card, they are signing away all of your constitutional rights. That's why schools are allowed to search your bags whenever they want even without your consent.
@@MegaMaxwell95 Your principal lied to you because your rights cannot be waived. It's not surprising considering school administrations are very authoritarian by nature.
Couldn't it be argued that the teacher is making it distracting when it wasn't doing so before?
That child looks exactly like me, we got paper bags
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I love my lawyer who follows me around 24/7
It’s really about the school knowing who you are than a dress code
My home (Vietnam) won the war. And one of the reasons leading to victory was also come from American’s peace protests against the war (Which was one of the reasons forced the White house to stop the war). Many people sacrificed their lives for the victory against the U.S. But now, it’s nice to see the war ended and our relationship developing in peace.
We (American here) COULD have won, if our politicians weren't deliberately sabotaging us and forcing the people fighting to do things like throw themselves directly into anti-air defenses. But I guess those military contractor CEOs who made far more than the people actually fighting and dying had to feed their families somehow.
Honestly though, I'm kinda glad we lost. They say it was to stop the spread of communism, but really, it was just a money-making war. I'm glad those students saw it for what it was.
They made me study the Tinker case in English class. It’s pretty cool
My class attendance if Mike was my history teacher : 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
I love the part where he said if it's illegal or not
what I hate is that school are now calling anything that they don't like as being a distraction when literally no one cares except them.
Does that mean I can wear a MAGA hat to school
You might get shoved in a locker but technically yes
1st amendment protects you from government persecution so yes. You should also wear it so people know to talk very slow and use words with less than 3 syllables.
@@OddSauceNonsense, anti-maga are weak and will just start screaming until a teacher arrives
@@lilbee281you must be thinking of people that support Biden. Figures you would mix them up
@@JakeyBro69 oh you got me good, buddy. Just type ‘no u’ next time, its quicker and better suits your brain capacity
Thanks Mike! I am also learning about this in my 8th grade civics class!
ii love your mannerisms. it feels like i'm watching a kid's show/something my elementary teacher would show on the TV for class
I learned about this situation, I live in iowa and learned about this my senior year, to me it was very confusing and this video made the situation very clearer
Shall NOT be prohibited, no exception, EVER!
i like the part when teacher yell “SUSPENDED!”
I dont think that a teacher sueing a student for having a bag over their head would hold up in court either
I don't believe Mike is a real lawyer
“So the system works”
“Well, sort of”
I have someone who doesn’t want their full identity shown in a school that requires IDs because of bullying and no one bats an eye
Ironically just before this short I got a face app😂
HEARING MIKE TALK ABOUT IOWA IS CRAZY
Hoodies were banned in my school, even though hoodies were part of the school uniform
Dhar Man: Good idea but its mine now!
When the disruption is purely the teacher's ego.
I actually just learned about the arm band thing in my av production class, I also learned about the rights in the first amendment in the bill of rights
My old school said it was a safety issue when wearing hats, hoodies, or face coverings.
It was a middle school in a suburban area 💀
It must have imploded when the pandemic started.
I’ve heard that Iowa story so many times bc I am in Iowa
We callin’ darr man with this one 🔥🔥
A problem with that law is that teachers will be spiteful and purposely make it disruptive or distracting by making a fuss about it, its a common tactic in every school and not a single time a student was being actually distracting or disruptive until a teacher took issue with it
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
ngl, There's this kid in school who's under a grade of me wears a Black Helmet lol.
"is it illegal to hide your face at school?"
DUDE YES OR NO? IM DYING TO KNOW
Same Billy. Aw crap, history lesson, I just wanted my face covered 😂
I literally wear a Covid 19 face mask in school and the teachers don’t even care
The problem is, literally anything can be distracting to some students.
Suddenly my AP government class came in clutch so I ended up knowing this court case
Des Moines actually goes crazy I have wanted to wear a mask(costume) for so long but it’s still not aloud here
I think for the most part armbands should be perfectly fine so long as they don't have proven gang symbols or something like a swastika.
A head covering on the other hand like something that completely obscures your face that I definitely understand that not being allowed in school.