It's funny that none of you guys talked about how do the players must feel like losing their coach right before possibly playing for a national championship. Personally, if I was a current player, I would be really, really pissed.
I'm not sure whether they talked about it or not... but.... those guys have to feel let down. I remember how the players at Cincinnati reacted when he left them just before the sugar bowl against Tim Tebow and Florida. They were broken, and played like broken hearted players. My Dad still hasn't forgiven him for leaving his players.
First time listening to you guys and I gotta say you got a new fan in me.. Finally some rationale from ND fans... Im a diehard ND fan and I cannot stand BK and he should of been fired during or right after the 2016 season and I could write a book of reasons why.. Sucks that he left at the time he did but what else would you expect from a guy like that... Glad I dont have to see him with his arms folded pouting on the sidelines anymore when the team faces any kind of adversity when he should be motivating them !!! 15 million a year for a guy whos won zero huge games at ND and has no hardware!! Have fun with your cash grab in Baton Rouge ✌🍀
I personally think Freeman is the reason this team went on the tear they went on near the end of the season. I believe the players had enough of Kelly.
Dang, it only took Brian Kelly one year to lower the standard at LSU that much? 4 losses, a butt whipping by Georgia, a loss to 5-7 Texas A&M, a loss to Florida State, a 40-13 loss to Tennessee and you wanna talk noise? You're right, he did that even faster than I thought! Props to Kelly for that!
Didn't Brian say he wouldn't beat Bama? He won the SEC West. We are used to better, but this energy was wrong. Didn't y'all win 9 games? Who was better?
@@nehemiahbell81 I didn't realize Bama would be as down as they were, but great, he beat Alabama, but also got destroyed by Tennessee and lost to a garbage Texas A&M team. LSU went 9-4 against FBS teams. Notre Dame went 9-4 against FBS teams. The fact y'all think that's something to brag about is my point, y'all are already accepting less ..... that's the true Kelly way. Enjoy it!
As a LSU fan, I really am not crazy about this hire. Dude is 3-9 vs top 10 opponents and that was against much easier competition than he'll face at LSU. That won't fly at LSU. Hoping for the best, but not thrilled.
You shouldn’t be that happy. Most ND fans know that BK is a competent coach but far from elite. He’ll be middle of the pack in the SEC and then retire in 3-5 with $25 mil more in the bank.
Hey guys - been following your show for a long time and love it and watch it regularly!! This was definitely a Vince classic where he didn’t hold back anything and I loved it!!!
Kelly has railed against the transfer portal -- for players, not head coaches. Assistant coaches on recruiting home visits reportedly found out about their boss bolting to LSU.......from family members of the recruit. It is in the ballpark of Tommy Tuberville leaving a dinner with Texas Tech recruits (and never returning) to sign a deal with Cincinnati.
Outstanding episode lads college football is an absolute gong show right now crazy timing . Marcus Freeman in my opinion should be the next head coach .
Lolol Longhorn fan here. It warms my heart to see others feel some pain 😆. Yall couldn't walk one day in our shoes lol. It appears the players want and will stay for Freeman. That's the next coach at ND. As always.. Hook em horns 🤘. Rudy... Rudy... Rudy... we're rooting for you Fighting Irish 💪God Speed
It’s best thing for ND in the interim and if he’s who everybody (including Brian Kelly) says he is, he will succeed in to the future. First things first, our ‘22 and ‘23 classes are top 10 and very well might both be too 5 classes. The ‘23 class already has 4 top 100 defensive players. Defensive players who want to learn under Marcus Freeman.
I'm sorry but I'm glad he's leaving. Never really liked him because of what he did to Cincinnati. Bailed on them as well as the Irish. He's going to get eaten alive in the SEC. He's never been able to hang with the top tier coaches and it'll only be magnified now.
@@etiennescarbinski7890 he ran towards the money. Let's get real here for a moment. He can try to blame ND and the academic standards for his lack of winning titles but it comes down to his inability to prepare his players in big games. Everyone gets their butts beat here and there but every time? That's a coaching issue.
We’ll keep this warm… Kelly is surging with recruiting the right players (Louisiana heavy) and assistant coaching (elite). He’ll need all of it because the competition he faces is brutal.
I respect what y’all do but y’all sound like y’all are hating.When was the last time ND won it all.LSU has 2 more then we have the last 25 years.Stop acting like LSU is Minnesota
“LSU was a Dumpster fire before 2019.” Laughs in 3rd most winningest program since 2000. 😎 Laughs in not having a losing season in 22 years. Yea, I’m sorry but that’s just not true. Maybe if we were A&M, Florida, or Auburn. But, other than that incorrect information. I enjoyed ur perspective on Kelly. He sounds exactly like Saban did in his early career with LSU. Not saying he’s Saban. But, just saying what ur saying sounds awfully familiar. After Orgeron LSU needs a iron fisted coach. The culture as LSU needs to be reset. Orgeron really let things fall after 2019.
With an investigation and EO getting canned mid season after a couple years ago winning a championship, yeah compared to most other programs LSU is a dumpster fire. Keep holdin on to that record from 2000 though.
While I wish you luck in turning around the culture at LSU, I think you'll see 50/50 results in that from Brian Kelly. Here are the facts of his career + ND 12 years: - made ND relevant again with more discipline/development at some key positions, stadium changes, recruiting, facilities(much you already have), and evaluating/developing some talent(taking 3stars to 4-5 star draft picks). - hires some excellent asst coaches, and some absolute garbage coaches - is a control freak; both a positive and a negative. This turned ND into a 10+win season team consistently, but it took 5+ years to do that (and almost fired because of not changing some coaches that are buddies/doesn't want to be wrong). This control freakism has also kept him from winning a title; can't let go of offense, needs to have heavy input on personnel (and will always play a senior over a talented fr/so regardless of ability...which is ludicrous given today's colleges football). - control freak with media: luckily in south bend, he could control the media who he got to stop asking critical questions. I doubt that will work in Baton Rouge...and I expect multiple media outbursts annually...heads up; he likes to throw players under the bus publicly when he's really mad instead of taking responsibility. -QB development is a huge issue; no QB at ND progressed year over year. Every single one had their best season when Kelly did not put pressure on them(ie ran the ball, controlled clock)...he mentally ruined multiple talented QBs. So...you have to win the first year of a QB. -motovating; he's shown he can get them up for occasional bug games...but also come out super flat in many big games. He's not a good energy guy...must have others around that do that really well. - awful game coach....this goes back to the micromanaging/control. It's a plus sometimes...but early on his awful game coaching cost ND in lots of losses(bad decisions, poor mgt, poor personnel, and poor prep for opponents...losses to Tulsa, Northwestern, Syracuse, USF, etc). This only got rectified through now having better talent that overcame bad game mgt. -no killer instinct. Kelly has shown, especially against decent to good teams he refuses to out opponents away. He thinks that 10-17 point leads in the second half is enough to take the foot off the gas. This has been a 12 year consistency...and I guarantee gets exposed in the SEC.
@Jordan Love huh? You obviously don't know much about LSU football if you did you would know that the 2000 team is totally irrelevant lol LSU Tigers 2004: National Championship 2007: National Championship 2011: Lost National Championship to an Alabama team they beat earlier that same season (who beats Alabama twice in one year) 2019: National Championship
Look what Kelly has done for ND guys. Don't be disrespectful toward him. Be happy that he has brought us back. May not win the huge game but at least we have been there competing. Don't be trash
Against who? a 4-7 USC, against some mediocre ACC competition. He's a stubborn coach who will not try to change unless there is no other option. If it gets to that point He's done at LSU.
LSU talent is better. No disrespect to Notre Dame They are good. Academic limits the talent pool for Notre Dame. Brian Kelly did well with what he had to worked with. LSU will have the talent to match Clemson and Alabama and Georgia. LSU has the facilities too. I love Notre Dame. So stop that he can't beat Bama or Clemson with LSU. LSU opens the door for him to recruit talents without limits of academic admission at LSU. LSU isn't paying 14 mill for sure.
I get what you're saying but I'm still surprised by this move. He's had 5 straight 10 win seasons, plus has a top 5 2023-25 recruiting class. On the cusp of a natty title and he just leaves 🤔
More talent usually(ND actually outrecruited LSU 3 of last 6 cycles). The big challenge will be LSU is much less disciplined)hence losing 2-4 games a year with all that talent. That, to me, will be Kelly's Achilles heel at LSU. He loves guys that say the right things, are never late to practices, and are playbook smart vs able to make big/athletic plays consistently...and will usually play hard workers/seniority over talent. The guy who thinks he's always the smartest guy in the room and never had to learn, is inevitably doomed.
For starters, BK doesn't like recruiting in fact so much so that there were reports that a current commit never heard from Brian Kelly. Secondly, BK is known to make bad hires and will avoid trying to change them unless pressured to do otherwise. I think of Brian Van Gorder who was only removed after Jack Swarbrick gave him no other option. Next, when you realize this you can easily negative recruit LSU to the point of no fighting back. Finally, He is not good at getting people motivated cause he is really awkward in those moments and He doesn't like to put too much points on the board so much so when he feels he has a lead he will feel it's necessary to run inside zone or a draw play.
Totally disagree about he took ND as far as they can go...his game planning for the not 1, not 2 and not 3 chances to win a title his teams got blown out. He had the talent but never had his teams ready for the big games. #hiremarcusfreeman #screwbriankelly
So LSU is 7-2
Beat Mississippi State, Florida, Lane Kiffins Ole Miss and Bama.
Brian Kelly is Legit.
It's funny that none of you guys talked about how do the players must feel like losing their coach right before possibly playing for a national championship. Personally, if I was a current player, I would be really, really pissed.
Theres a podcast called the Garage with a couple of the players on it and theyre unbeleivably understanding. Sweet hearts.
I'm not sure whether they talked about it or not... but.... those guys have to feel let down. I remember how the players at Cincinnati reacted when he left them just before the sugar bowl against Tim Tebow and Florida. They were broken, and played like broken hearted players. My Dad still hasn't forgiven him for leaving his players.
Guys the players understand it's a business big money
Bryan Driskell should be the new ND head coach and Vince should be his offensive coordinator.
You are so correct about Freeman being a Notre Dame guy. I get the same aura that Holtz had from Freeman.
First time listening to you guys and I gotta say you got a new fan in me.. Finally some rationale from ND fans... Im a diehard ND fan and I cannot stand BK and he should of been fired during or right after the 2016 season and I could write a book of reasons why.. Sucks that he left at the time he did but what else would you expect from a guy like that... Glad I dont have to see him with his arms folded pouting on the sidelines anymore when the team faces any kind of adversity when he should be motivating them !!! 15 million a year for a guy whos won zero huge games at ND and has no hardware!! Have fun with your cash grab in Baton Rouge ✌🍀
He did a hell of a job year one bro beat Alabama played for an sec championship year one can't win the big game 🐂 sht good day bro
If notre dame doesn’t go to playoffs I think Marcus freeman has a very real shot beating bama in New Years bowl as head coach. Go Irish ☘️
I personally think Freeman is the reason this team went on the tear they went on near the end of the season. I believe the players had enough of Kelly.
I will feel great about this if we can get a better O-line coach.
This didn't end well. Great job, guys!!! lol.
Dang, it only took Brian Kelly one year to lower the standard at LSU that much? 4 losses, a butt whipping by Georgia, a loss to 5-7 Texas A&M, a loss to Florida State, a 40-13 loss to Tennessee and you wanna talk noise? You're right, he did that even faster than I thought! Props to Kelly for that!
Didn't Brian say he wouldn't beat Bama? He won the SEC West. We are used to better, but this energy was wrong. Didn't y'all win 9 games? Who was better?
When was the last time y'all won a Championship?
@@nehemiahbell81 I didn't realize Bama would be as down as they were, but great, he beat Alabama, but also got destroyed by Tennessee and lost to a garbage Texas A&M team. LSU went 9-4 against FBS teams. Notre Dame went 9-4 against FBS teams. The fact y'all think that's something to brag about is my point, y'all are already accepting less ..... that's the true Kelly way. Enjoy it!
As a LSU fan, I really am not crazy about this hire. Dude is 3-9 vs top 10 opponents and that was against much easier competition than he'll face at LSU. That won't fly at LSU. Hoping for the best, but not thrilled.
Now compare ND and LSU talent.
He has only recruited 2 five stars since 2018.
You shouldn’t be that happy. Most ND fans know that BK is a competent coach but far from elite. He’ll be middle of the pack in the SEC and then retire in 3-5 with $25 mil more in the bank.
@@TravisDyson-qd9gw I'm stoked about bk being lsu coach natty coming in a year or 2 geaux tigahs
How's the golden boy Freeman doing hahahaha!!!
Wow great work guys especially Vincent for doing this while at school!
Vince came in guns a blazing 😂 best of luck to Coach Kelly and I really hope this works out for the program
Notre Dame Does Well at Home ..but When Playoffs or Neutral Site Games Against Great Teams..THEY FOLD..
Hey guys - been following your show for a long time and love it and watch it regularly!! This was definitely a Vince classic where he didn’t hold back anything and I loved it!!!
ND has to act quickly. The best man for the job is Coach (HC) Freeman
Kelly has railed against the transfer portal -- for players, not head coaches. Assistant coaches on recruiting home visits reportedly found out about their boss bolting to LSU.......from family members of the recruit. It is in the ballpark of Tommy Tuberville leaving a dinner with Texas Tech recruits (and never returning) to sign a deal with Cincinnati.
Outstanding episode lads college football is an absolute gong show right now crazy timing . Marcus Freeman in my opinion should be the next head coach .
Lolol Longhorn fan here. It warms my heart to see others feel some pain 😆. Yall couldn't walk one day in our shoes lol. It appears the players want and will stay for Freeman. That's the next coach at ND. As always.. Hook em horns 🤘. Rudy... Rudy... Rudy... we're rooting for you Fighting Irish 💪God Speed
It's really entertaining seeing how some of the comments aged over time.
LSU fans. How are we feeling now?
Hire Marcus Freeman.
It’s best thing for ND in the interim and if he’s who everybody (including Brian Kelly) says he is, he will succeed in to the future. First things first, our ‘22 and ‘23 classes are top 10 and very well might both be too 5 classes. The ‘23 class already has 4 top 100 defensive players. Defensive players who want to learn under Marcus Freeman.
I'm sorry but I'm glad he's leaving. Never really liked him because of what he did to Cincinnati. Bailed on them as well as the Irish. He's going to get eaten alive in the SEC. He's never been able to hang with the top tier coaches and it'll only be magnified now.
At least hes running toward the competition of the SEC unlike the coward Riley
@@etiennescarbinski7890 he ran towards the money. Let's get real here for a moment. He can try to blame ND and the academic standards for his lack of winning titles but it comes down to his inability to prepare his players in big games. Everyone gets their butts beat here and there but every time? That's a coaching issue.
Nice. Hope he takes Quinn, Polian Rees with him. I still think Rees is not ready🤷♂️
I forgot about Alexander, he's trash
We’ll keep this warm… Kelly is surging with recruiting the right players (Louisiana heavy) and assistant coaching (elite). He’ll need all of it because the competition he faces is brutal.
HC Marcus Freeman OC WARREN RUGGIERO (Remember that name) Make it happen!
BK WAS KINDA OFF ALL YEAR. SAW THIS COMING
Agreed. Even the way he acted on the sidelines at Stanford and then how he left the press conference and the jokes he made during.
Kelly turns schools around and makes them relevant. He came to ND leading Cincinnati 11-0 ....the disrespect though
Yall keep forgetting the playoff will be extended. Going to SEC is not that suicidal with 8 team playoff
Had to go to the hospital, the sodium content of this video is way too high.
I respect what y’all do but y’all sound like y’all are hating.When was the last time ND won it all.LSU has 2 more then we have the last 25 years.Stop acting like LSU is Minnesota
Great coverage, guys. It’s just another example that college sports is a BUSINESS.
How about Mullen?
Good time to change the university’s nickname back to its original…
⚜️⚜️Notre Dame Saints⚜️⚜️
“LSU was a Dumpster fire before 2019.”
Laughs in 3rd most winningest program since 2000. 😎
Laughs in not having a losing season in 22 years.
Yea, I’m sorry but that’s just not true.
Maybe if we were A&M, Florida, or Auburn.
But, other than that incorrect information. I enjoyed ur perspective on Kelly.
He sounds exactly like Saban did in his early career with LSU. Not saying he’s Saban. But, just saying what ur saying sounds awfully familiar.
After Orgeron LSU needs a iron fisted coach. The culture as LSU needs to be reset.
Orgeron really let things fall after 2019.
With an investigation and EO getting canned mid season after a couple years ago winning a championship, yeah compared to most other programs LSU is a dumpster fire. Keep holdin on to that record from 2000 though.
While I wish you luck in turning around the culture at LSU, I think you'll see 50/50 results in that from Brian Kelly. Here are the facts of his career + ND 12 years:
- made ND relevant again with more discipline/development at some key positions, stadium changes, recruiting, facilities(much you already have), and evaluating/developing some talent(taking 3stars to 4-5 star draft picks).
- hires some excellent asst coaches, and some absolute garbage coaches
- is a control freak; both a positive and a negative. This turned ND into a 10+win season team consistently, but it took 5+ years to do that (and almost fired because of not changing some coaches that are buddies/doesn't want to be wrong). This control freakism has also kept him from winning a title; can't let go of offense, needs to have heavy input on personnel (and will always play a senior over a talented fr/so regardless of ability...which is ludicrous given today's colleges football).
- control freak with media: luckily in south bend, he could control the media who he got to stop asking critical questions. I doubt that will work in Baton Rouge...and I expect multiple media outbursts annually...heads up; he likes to throw players under the bus publicly when he's really mad instead of taking responsibility.
-QB development is a huge issue; no QB at ND progressed year over year. Every single one had their best season when Kelly did not put pressure on them(ie ran the ball, controlled clock)...he mentally ruined multiple talented QBs. So...you have to win the first year of a QB.
-motovating; he's shown he can get them up for occasional bug games...but also come out super flat in many big games. He's not a good energy guy...must have others around that do that really well.
- awful game coach....this goes back to the micromanaging/control. It's a plus sometimes...but early on his awful game coaching cost ND in lots of losses(bad decisions, poor mgt, poor personnel, and poor prep for opponents...losses to Tulsa, Northwestern, Syracuse, USF, etc). This only got rectified through now having better talent that overcame bad game mgt.
-no killer instinct. Kelly has shown, especially against decent to good teams he refuses to out opponents away. He thinks that 10-17 point leads in the second half is enough to take the foot off the gas. This has been a 12 year consistency...and I guarantee gets exposed in the SEC.
Lol idk which fans are more delusional OU or LSU
@@drew7155 ND fans by far.
Everyone knows you can’t compete at the highest level, including ur former Coach.
Except you.
@Jordan Love huh? You obviously don't know much about LSU football if you did you would know that the 2000 team is totally irrelevant lol
LSU Tigers
2004: National Championship
2007: National Championship
2011: Lost National Championship to an Alabama team they beat earlier that same season (who beats Alabama twice in one year)
2019: National Championship
No more BK!!!! its Christmas day already!!!
BK is going to be Great at LSU.
lsu never interviewed Billy Napier smh he wanted the job
Bc BK is better more experienced and proven winner
Taxes are real in California.....$$$$
bk does enjoy the spotlight but watch what you wish for, right? did same to Cincy. Would Joe Brady go back to college ball? Great coverage
Obviously he took the money. It is simple- none of that other shit you said is relevant. They doubled his salary. You would have taken the money too.
I wish I could give more then 1 like
Y’all mad or big mad?
I just got gut punched
For real
@@Asidelove I passed out on my couch, woke up at 1 something in the morning after the Monday night football game only to see this news...ugh😞😵
Look what Kelly has done for ND guys. Don't be disrespectful toward him. Be happy that he has brought us back. May not win the huge game but at least we have been there competing. Don't be trash
Against who? a 4-7 USC, against some mediocre ACC competition. He's a stubborn coach who will not try to change unless there is no other option. If it gets to that point He's done at LSU.
LSU talent is better. No disrespect to Notre Dame They are good. Academic limits the talent pool for Notre Dame. Brian Kelly did well with what he had to worked with. LSU will have the talent to match Clemson and Alabama and Georgia. LSU has the facilities too. I love Notre Dame. So stop that he can't beat Bama or Clemson with LSU. LSU opens the door for him to recruit talents without limits of academic admission at LSU. LSU isn't paying 14 mill for sure.
I get what you're saying but I'm still surprised by this move. He's had 5 straight 10 win seasons, plus has a top 5 2023-25 recruiting class. On the cusp of a natty title and he just leaves 🤔
More talent usually(ND actually outrecruited LSU 3 of last 6 cycles). The big challenge will be LSU is much less disciplined)hence losing 2-4 games a year with all that talent.
That, to me, will be Kelly's Achilles heel at LSU. He loves guys that say the right things, are never late to practices, and are playbook smart vs able to make big/athletic plays consistently...and will usually play hard workers/seniority over talent.
The guy who thinks he's always the smartest guy in the room and never had to learn, is inevitably doomed.
@@TheLearningCatalystCoach Which is what LSU needs.
It needs a cultural refit. Orgeron was great at recruiting. But, terrible at managing the roster.
For starters, BK doesn't like recruiting in fact so much so that there were reports that a current commit never heard from Brian Kelly. Secondly, BK is known to make bad hires and will avoid trying to change them unless pressured to do otherwise. I think of Brian Van Gorder who was only removed after Jack Swarbrick gave him no other option. Next, when you realize this you can easily negative recruit LSU to the point of no fighting back. Finally, He is not good at getting people motivated cause he is really awkward in those moments and He doesn't like to put too much points on the board so much so when he feels he has a lead he will feel it's necessary to run inside zone or a draw play.
@@TheLearningCatalystCoachha ha ha...I know right. Well said
OH MY
Totally disagree about he took ND as far as they can go...his game planning for the not 1, not 2 and not 3 chances to win a title his teams got blown out. He had the talent but never had his teams ready for the big games. #hiremarcusfreeman #screwbriankelly
Wow!!
He wont have all the ND “school” requirements over his head he will be DANGEROUS at LSU
Sounds to like u salty bro get over it
Please please please NO BOB STOOPS!!!