Can an e-bike REALLY replace your car? Modmo Saigon+ Review
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2021
- We got our hands on Modmo's latest Saigon+ and put it to the test. We didn't manage to get access to their accessory mounts, but decided to do a donut run with it regardless.
We spent the day on the bike and talk about the features and experience using it.
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Been using an ebike as my main form of transport for 18 months now, adding a trailer was the real breakthrough point for me.
"Can an e-bike REALLY replace your car?" Yes until its cold and /or raining or you have to go to Ikea and collect a wardrobe
For everything else 👍 courses for horses they say
@Protista protista yep :-) I do IKEA trips with wife on eucs and you might be surprised at how much we can carry back :-) if it’s big life furniture we either order a delivery or call a cab 🚕 if I need a car I rent it or call a friend
Many young families have both parents working to make ends meet. With a second commuting car.
As in my case, 3 years of hilly 25 mile a day mixed urban/country ebike commute after scrapping my old diesel. Rain, ice, snow, shine, no other option, no problem. Motor= no sweat= easy to layer up. Used simple cheap hi vis waterproofs from local market, over top of work uniform. Added thermals leggings and motorbike gloves for sub zero. Quick to take off. Didnt get wet or cold. Mates used to joke it was a Hi vis space suit :)
Big Ortlieb pannier bags carried big loads. Home delivery / van day hire sorts out rare bulky stuff.
Motorway traffic was a miserable daily existance.
Whereas ebiking through nature was soma for a weary soul.
Highly recommend others give it a go, but its not for everyone.
@Protista protista When I was doing my kitchen, I made lots of trips to IKEA. Most of them are in out of town locations, not great for cyclist.
Why can't people have both cars and cycles?
As the statistic quoted in this video said, the average car journey has just 1.2 occupants. So on average it's just the driver alone for 4 out of 5 journeys.
If you need to bring a flat packed wardrobe home there are plenty of bike trailers that can do that for you. I have two bike trailers myself. One suitable for the flat pack or a full sized lawnmower and much more. I've had 70kg of shopping with no problem. Pulled by a pedal power only bicycle.
Although, with all the money you've saved from NOT needing a car or a second car for your every day transport, you could hire a van or a car for a few hours. Or even better, just get it delivered. Easy peasy.
As for the bad weather, a good bike poncho will keep you covered literally and metaphorically.
Instead of problems, there is nearly always a simple solution or a compromise.
I really need to get an EBike. I'm just about to start my new job and I have muscle atrophy, been out of work for ages and I live on a huge hill. I'm worried that if I go to work by walking, I'll be unable to get back to work the following day, I'm hoping to use an EBike once I get my first pay check and slowly exercise my muscles back up at the same time.
An eBike is perfect for this. If you are really strugging with your present fitness you can increase the assist so you're not straining your muscles so much providing you're travelling less than 15.5mph - which you probably will be espeecially cycling up a hill. What _will_ happen though is that your fitness level will increase and you will lower the assist level so definitely go for it.
Brother Ebikes are very helpful for people like you with muscle pain. Get one and don't look back I wish u health and goodness
Loved the production on this video - Very well done guys!
If we had known you were going for donuts we would have bought our bike down and joined you.
@ 02:05 ! that delivery box! Yes PLEASE!
Can't wait to see them take the kid to school on a cold, rainy morning.
Err... you're saying that like if that's somehow unusual for those who live in the northen hemisphere.
@@MrVaultTec I ride in all weathers, but I can't see the average car driver swopping.
@@CraigDavies. Yes I know what you're saying as jumping in the car is very convenient especially in bad weather. It requires a huge change in mindset but when people are stuck in gridlocked roads waiting ages to get anywhere and then they see a cyclist zip past, this may motivate them a tad.
@@MrVaultTec Most of then seem to want to kill me. That also puts a lot off.
I find most days are ok even in winter you can wrap up warm and wear a coat. But I admit that when it's terrible weather rain snow and heavy wind it isnt fun.
Love the look of it. Great video as always. Love this channel
That really just looks like a normal mountain bike with over size frame tubes, love how they have fitted the battery in the down tube!
I see you filming this clip was on escooter didn't recognise you though😁
Video FAILED to demonstrate how it can replace a car or even just a regular bike that costs thousands less!
It's £2499, not madly expensive for an e-bike.
It’s strange how with ebikes it’s all about the costs, but there’s people who commute on regular bikes that cost the same or more as ebikes but costs don’t come into it
I don't think cost is a factor...at least not yet for me. I'm still figuring its usage first, like can it really go up a steep hill without pedaling?! As long as it can do something that a regular bicycle cannot do, then the price is justified :)
@@mocspeed5566 hmmm 🤔 well in uk u have to pedal for motor to engage for it to be considered legal.
A kit with a throttle is easily put on an average mountain bike for less than £500, far more practical than these expensive factory built ebikes, that I don’t think can really justify the prices they charge (the same as expensive bikes on general).
They will never appeal to mainstream til prices become reasonable, especially when most people will still have a car (but hopefully use it less)
@@bgate1984 Yeah, i don't see much usage or benefit for an ebike over a regular bike, especially after what u said. THX 4 insight :)
Extremely pleased with my Merida Espresso 700 2021 eBike.
I ride virtually all the time in Eco mode or
with the motor off and can get 140+ miles on a charge.
This is in addition to my three normal bikes, I have a car but that is now hardly used.
Love the styling but not totally convinced about the battery removal. If you can’t take bike in to office you would like to take the battery away since cycle prone to theft. Adds on are brilliant but not first (see e.g. Wallerang e-bikes since 2015 and Yuba bikes). Belts are usually carbon reinforced and brilliant for rainy climates!
No one ''needs'' a car they just Want a car .I have cycled all my life took kids to school and on holiday (in a trailer ).Done shopping every week and cycled 30 miles a day to work for the last 50+ years Never had a car . so if you THINK you need one then your living your life wrong. I admit now I do have an E bike and it's been a life changer . But I would never own,want or NEED a car.
Nice one - really like this attitude. I have a car which I like but I barely use it. It sits on the drive most of the time and I only really use it for shopping trips now. Sometimes I leave it unused for so long that I force myself to take it out to make sure it's still working lol.
I managed without a car for my first 40 years, but since passing my test (a bit late in life, admittedly), it's good to have the flexibility a car offers, such as being able to haul a lot more than a bike, and not being at the mercy of the elements or sometimes unreliable public transport. Still love the go-anywhere freedom that a bike offers (along with the exercise and fresh air)
Even though I agree for most cases, applying this to absolutely everyone is just wrong. It is true for the common person leaving not too far from a city /services and that has no job that requires the transportation of anything that could not fit a bike.
Now if you take the person that lives far in the countryside and / or has a job as a self-employed in arts and crafts (as an example) that requires transportation of heavy loads, your statement would not apply.
Applying your way of thinking, which is formatted by your life style to others is basically wrong. Lots of people have lots of different lives, and YES some do need a car for living.
Though were you do have a point, is most people that think they need one (especially those living in cities) actually don't. It's just twisted to apply that to everyone regardless of their situation...
People do need to stop getting in the car for a journey just to local shop's or a coffee.
I use mine to go to the office mostly about 15 mins away on the e bike. Of course not everyone is lucky to have their work close to them.
But problem is with heavier bulky items like a TV. So easy to fit it in the boot.(can be offset by asking for home delivery I suppose)
Cars take multiple people on a long journey also. Can't see a mother of 3-4 in a morning rush riding on an e bike with young children lol.
An e bike suits a certain type of person like a uni student or someone in a block of flats and the parking is abysmal. Or someone in London after all a bicycle beat a car on Top Gear.
When does she use the e part of the bike?
If i recall correctly UK ebikes *should* by law, all be pedal assisted (EAPCs), which I guess this is. I don't *think* we're allowed to use throttle operated ones. Not sure, maybe someone can clarify?
@@therealchayd Throttle controlled ebikes are allowed on UK public roads provided they are :
- type certified
- registered with the DVLA
- displaying a vehicle registration number (number plate)
- insured
- taxed
- MOTd if they are over 3 years old
The rider also needs :
- a motorcycle licence
- insurance to cover that type of bike
- to wear the correct helmet for that type of bike
A throttle controlled bike is also not allowed on cycle tracks, on pavements, and in bike parks.
It must only be ridden on the main road, and must comply with all road rules and regulations covering that type of bike.
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Pedal assisted but they are still good even on hills that I would normally walk up I now just select mode 4 maximum assist and its a breeze getting to and from work Save £11:00 per day on taxis 4 days a week a four hour charge gives me 3 days use Even UK Government is keen enough to give tax relief with the cycle to work scheme
Love ❤️ my vanmoof s3 and the misses love her X3 ,We will see how thing are in winter ❄️
Do you have to peddle it? I’ve had one of the Chinese “Rich bit 1000w” bikes for about a year now and I have to say I’m well pleased with it. I can honestly say that I’ve used it almost every day and I’ve never peddled it more than a few meters to get my balance. In fact I should definitely start peddling more haha
What make is that backpack? I'm searching for one like that.
Bike sold out and not due in stock again until March 2022 :-(
Love this channel
I love blm
@@bazle64 😇
Those modular mounting points look kinda weak when you look at comparible models such as the radrunner, benno, etc
How many miles can its run per houre
If the main selling point of this bike over others is the modular attachments, seems silly to do a promo on it without any of them to show!
E-Bikes can carry a hell of a lot more than some donuts, this sell them very short lmao
Also, are those red things on the bar ends lights?
Decent modmo that. Really want to get the rad rider though, would really work in the city environment especially with jts versatility
Thieves are gonna love it 😍 what happened to your delivery bag? Works well with those donuts 🍩 turns out the way to a man’s heart is through donuts 😆 they completely ignored you on your way out 😉 I like your production style, it’s captivating 👍 Here’s to being hopeful that I won’t be forced to having to ‘downgrade’ to a bike 🚲
See that London bike shop with a bike costing thousands they were getting from Alibaba for a few hundred and they were saying they built it? Think it was on Reddit
China will always out price a UK business. Especially when taxes are being dodged. You pay for the convenience of a local shop and the guarantees it provides. I do agree that e-bikes appear overpriced. Lying is not cool of course 🤥 perhaps they modified it to a large degree?
@@AndreiPetunin I won't name them but all they did was re-badge it I just googled "Reddit London Ebike Alibaba" and found it. It was for crowdfunding. I built a 1000w ebike last year for £300 and sold it for £450 just to prove a point.
@@shawng5799 sounds like a scam :-)
I'm already guessing three mins in that this is *only* going to cost thousands. Although admittedly, it looks like a damn nice bike :)
Man i love the idea of replacing my car with an ebike but im just not comfortable riding woth cars and lorries safely in my country as there is not a single bike lane 😶
What helmet is that?
For 2.5 grand I can have 3 Xiaomi. Very nice bike but all of them a little bit to expensive. I'm using one bus to get to work. It's cost £1.55 each way. I need a transport up to £700 to get my money back in less than one year. This bike is more than 2 years.
An EUC costs less and does much more than just your journey to work ;)
@@AndreiPetunin very clever.You didn't understand bdw.
It's nice. But it would be better if you can give more infor about the battery🙂
It's a nice looking bike but i like a twist throttle on my ebikes. Not because im lazy it's just ideal to have a full electric twist throttle when you start to get to hot peddling.
Unless you register such bikes with the DVLA, they would be illegal to ride on public roads. All bikes (like this one) sold through reputable sellers/dealers, comply with the current legislation. So, no throttle.
@@chillout1109 Well that's not a law i agree with when you can still peddle faster than the throttle makes you go with a 250w motor, that needs reform along with the E-Scooters etc. Very unlikely anyone would even know it has one unless your riding like a maniac with a bigger motor which in that case i would take law into account. The legislation all needs to be made around the motor sizes imo to keep people safe but equally we need some common sense aswell with the small motors.
@@honeybadger9425 Cyclists have been pushing for change for a couple of years now. There have been online petition pages and online forums on such issues as legalizing e-scooters, increasing ebike pedal assist limit from 15.5mph to 20-25mph at least, and legalizing throttle assisted ebikes (without the need for motorcycle licences and insurance, which is the case at the moment). But the government hasn't done anything about any of that yet. However, we may see a bit of change in the near future as the UK gets under more and more pressure to be carbon net zero in the coming years. New diesel and petrol cars will no longer be allowed to be sold in the UK from 2030. New hybrid diesel/petrol cars will no longer be allowed to be sold in the UK from 2035. A lot of people are going to be forced out their petrol/diesel cars as emission rules make it unpleasant to drive such cars on UK roads for much longer. A lot of drivers are going to choose to cycle rather than buy electric vehicles, which are still very expensive and therefore out of reach of the general public at the moment. E-scooters and ebikes are probably going to explode in number as ex-drivers switch over to these cheaper alternatives. The government will have to change some legislation to adapt to such a shift in dermographics in order to accommodate the rise in these personal mobility vehicles. Fingers crossed 🤞, throttle assist and removal of 15.5 mph limits might be included in the new legislation. Unfortunately, at the moment, it's still illegal to ride a throttle assisted cycle on public roads. It's still illegal to ride a private e-scooter on public roads. And it's still illegal to ride an ebike that has the 15.5mph pedal assist limit tampered with in some way (derestricting). But many cyclists, some of whom I personally know, just break these rules anyway. Like you and the rider in this video, their argument is, if you don't ride like a lunatic and draw attention to yourself, or if you don't put other road users at risk, what's the harm? As long as you ride like a normal sane person, the police will never know what you are riding, and will therefore never need to bother you, is the argument.
They are reinventing the wheel. Their are endless baskets, surfboard racks, panniers, rigs and backpacking adventure bike bags that can mount to any bike.
Child seats yes, pram child trailers yes.
Pick a bike that suits your style based upon geometry and comfort, eg an adventure gravel ebike and or STD bike ads accessories and your done.
The benefit something like Norco, Focus, Giant, Specialized etc offer is groupsets and parts readily available from the majority of bike shops.
Orbea bikes such as Vibe and Gain models have ultra lightweight ebikes with inbuilt lights. Half the weight of that bike.
Try get a replacement belt at any bike shop, you can't and will be stranded. The same reason why timing chains in cars are better relates to longevity, and maintenance ease.
Any bike is good , any electric bike is better, some nice design ideas and I like its simple looks, ideal for London but not for potholes and big hills here in Yorkshire.
My bikes all have full suspension.
You don't really need full sus bikes for commuting. When you have people still using hardtails MTBs for aggressive trail riding you know full sus for commuting is overkill.
@@MrVaultTec want and need are different things, I don't need full suspension but it makes for a much nicer experience (for my backside ) and it also helps reduce punctures.
A nice soft seat with suspension is a good alternative though.
But honestly 2.5k I'd want suspension and wider tyres ,its electric so weight isnt a problem really.
Carrying it up flights if stairs etc might've an issue for some people of course.
These bikes have a lot of benefits for people and natural. First, they can make people heathier by using strength . Second, natural won't be pollute anymore because instead of using oil or gas, they can use people power or energy to replace them. And they are cheaper than any motorbikes so everyone can easily buy them, especially teenagers from 15 years above. So that's why you should by one for you to help natural and yourself.
Nice scenic route..
Can you fit a child seat on the back?
i have used mounts like that and they break easy and then the whole things knackerd
I was wondering how robust they might be...
How many miles can its run per houer please tell me
@@askadabdalslam347 probably 15mph if its UK legal,
How far might it go is another question not answered in this video.
@@FlyingFun. ok thank you.
Bless you
I have uesed scooter but slow 15 miles per houer.
Thank you for info
@@askadabdalslam347 DIY bikes are my thing and can go over 15mph if I want ..
125cc scooter would certainly replace my car
The front hub motor doesn't seem powerful enough fot hauling anything or even driving up a modest hill from stand still.
Otherwise, ebikes certainly can replace a car in 90 % of my daily tasks, especially when combined with a trailer.
Oh wow. This very average ebike can take lots of mods... That are using non-standard mounting points, that are going to cost a hell of a lot more than the standard mounting that have been around for decades.
"oh, be it's so quick and easy!" LOL, when you can't see a cash grab that is shoved in your face.
Saigon dep lam, Saigon oi.... Saigon oi....
I hope this isn't a paid advert for that company, because you didn't sell me on most of your points if not all. You are just describing this bike for a sole purpose of delivering goods
I dont get how can people think that this is commuter bike with this geometry and frame. Other thing is that unless there is car sharing service which offers variety of cars for driving to business meeting or some DIY shop as well, good public transport service and infrastructure for bikes or scooters, people hardly will give up their cars for good.
Authorities need to leave EUC alone and let it flourish into the ultimate personal transport.
wish i had some pan eeeeeers
This bike is really st-Eilis! ;-)
I bought a nice electric bike with a in chassis battery, and NEVER AGAIN. The battery died, and was near impossible to replace (and very expensive). If I ever went ebike again, I'd definitely get a standards based generic connector external battery. (Swapped to escooter instead, my $2000 ebike is rusting)..
Paneer .? Haha love it
A £2500 Donut transporter
A better question would be "can a e scooter replace a car?"
It's great you've employed the presenter on knowledge of bikes rather than looks. Ps it's called the down tube 😊
Trợ lực 200 km, có em này dư sức đu đeo theo mấy nhóm phượt chuyên nghiệp rồi
Replacing a car? Of course not. There are trips that a bike can cover for sure. For example, travelling a short distance to work, to the local shops, or to the gym. Then there are trips where the bike is impractical. For example, visiting friends and family 160 miles away, going for your monthly grocery trip, going on a holiday trip. And oh, not to mention that when it snows, rains, or when it's windy, the bike will never be a substitute for a car. The best way to do it is to have a car and a bike. Make as many trips as you possibly can on your bike, with the car covering the rest. I live 11.5 miles outside the city. I have a car and two bikes (one urban/road bike and one Full Suspension eMTB). While I love my bikes very much, my car is indispensable I'm afraid.
You go for a 'monthly grocery trip'? Eh?
Actually with a bit of a redesign e-bikes could quite easily replace cars. But folk with little imagination only want to buy Victorian safety bicycles. Have a look at what Moulton was doing 60 years ago when he redesigned the bicycle using smaller wheels which allows much more luggage space. If you want weather protection I'd look at recumbents with a bit of bodywork - but they are more motorcycle than bicycle.
@@FFVoyager What you've descibed sounds like personal mobility for a single person, in and around a limited area. Even the best recumbent/velomobile, complete with electric pedal assist and full weather protection, cannot travel a 320 mile round trip. Even if it could, why torture yourself like that as if you are serving time for some heinous crime? Live a little (especially when you, like me, have worked hard all your life, and finally got that high paying job you've always dreamt of). Like I mentioned before, I do ride my bikes a lot (as does my wife too). Local shops, work commute, gym commute, local recreation, are all mostly done on bikes.
I have a wife, a 10 year old step daughter, a 7 year old daughter, and a 2 year old son. My in-laws live 72 miles from where I live at the moment. And my own mum and dad live 160 miles away. I'm not making my family cycle such distances. Nor am I cycling such distances either.
And yes, I do go on monthly shopping trips. When you have a family, where young children are involved, some household items are cheaper and much more convenient to buy in bulk rather than to buy them every time they run out. Only perishables are what we buy on a weekly basis or as and when needed. Try putting one month's worth of shopping even in a cargo bike!
Basing this on my own personal circumstances, a bike, or bikes, no matter what they are, cannot completely replace my car at the moment. That's just me.
@@FFVoyager I'm 100% shure I can fit more in my bicycle trailer than will fit in an avarage sized car . maybe not a transit van sized load or an american pickup . But in the few occations I need a load like that moveing . there are hundreds ,if not thousands of ''man with a van'' offering there services. I have moved freezers ,wardrobes and maybe the bigest single item being a dubble bed . yes, a car pulling a trailer will do the same thing But at what cost ? even a service on a modern car can cost as much as an e bike .
Yay you can cycle on the flat, well done
It depends where you live and where you work.
It will never replace a car. Cos you can't carry things on a bicycle and it won't take you as far. I couldn't see myself cycling to Canterbury if I need to be there for work and the drive takes me quicker. You'll always need a car for things like that or if you're picking up or travelling with people. Bicycles will never replace cars. They'll just be there for someone if you live by yourself and and travel around London
No because a car will let you carry far more, will keep you warm in winter, cool in summer and dry all year round.
Seems to be strictly geared towards customers in large European cities, who will treat a bike kinda like how Toyota Corolla owners treat their car (barely touch the car aside from when driving it). $2500 for a 250w motor is a real turn off for any NA consumer as we can get at least 500w motors for ~$1500. Single gear system/250w motor is also a turn off for those who live in areas with large hills. Lights and controller integrated into the frame makes getting replacement parts/upgrades impossible (unless going through the company). It also looks like the mounting points for traditional bike parts (back racks/front baskets) aren't there, which means your completely reliant on the company for attachments. On the plus side the bike looks sexy, and is probably light by ebike standards. The bike app also give you a GPS locater if it ever gets stolen. Kinda gives off the vibes they are trying to be like the Apple in the ebike industry.
May I ask what you do with your car when not driving? I am not a Toyota driver by the way, I just drive my car and that’s it! No cuddling or so…
@@robenglish416 there are some car owners that like to tinker. Some may add stuff to the engine, like upgraded turbos and air intakes (looking at those young civic owners), while others may take it upon themselves to do basic maintenance (such as top up/change fluids, change break pads/rotors, check tire pressure, clean the car).
@@APPLEPIE978 ok, I’ve got relatively new car, no tinkering unless you want to risk guarantee, car wash done by machine, not allowed to do that on driveway but I guess I could wax it, but hey it’s a leasing car - why bother! And I think there is different legislation in the US for electric bikes.
Honestly ordering a Modmo-Bike makes me waiting on it for a year now and there is still no clear perspective. And concerning the mods...only rendering Videos for more than a year now...Nothing real to order...
Two grand for a push bike, you're having a laugh. Didn't tell us anything about range, weight etc. The little blanking plug for the clip on accessories will disappear after a week and why anyone would design a bike that you have to turn upside down to get the battery out I don't understand. You could buy a cheap 50cc scooter and run it for a year for the price of this and testing a bike in the 'flat' centre of London doesn't really give me a lot of confidence in it's hill climbing abilities.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for sustainable transport but until they relax the rules on the motor power on pushbikes they will never convince me. Got an electric bike sitting at home unused because I live in a place with hills and the battery goes flat way too quick if I try climbing them with the piddly little motor.
Look I ride bikes am I all for bikes, but is it just me, that I drives my family, and carry stuff even if its 1 mile journey I will not carry a sofa with a bike. Wonder if this 1.2 people counts all delivery drivers and other professional drivers that are alone in the vehicle. And if these statistics account for the storage capacity of the vehicle. Not to mention the weather here in the UK or winter in someplace sorry I but won't take a bike in minus temperatures.
Nice looking bike but motor needs be moved to the rear wheel
All of the metal in a chain can be recycled. Can’t really easily recycle anything with carbon-fibre in it.
Is it just me or did she just pronounced ‘aitch’ wrongly?
I feel like this bike is just another here you go ebike review team and help me promote my ebike in return for you to have some.content for your channel. Otherwise it would have been reviewed in a proper way rather then let me use my time wisely and get some donuts while filming.
good luck getting on that bike with anything attatched to the back. Step tru is the only way.
No it can't certainly in uk where roads are poor and we have lots of bad weather it's dangerous in winter months cycling
There's no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing.
@@CycleCalm Hahahahah well that's debatable no good cycling 15 miles on icy diesel roads I'm a super keen motorcyclist and cyclist however we are restricted by weather due to safety reasons uk roads are way too busy and lots of drivers seem to be blind to 2 wheel transport
I have an E-bike and use it for my 4 miles each way commute much easier in the wind and I'm getting older. I'm sorry to say not a great review, no details of motor wattage details, 250w? Size of battery 400ah etc, any gears? How long to charge, if the seat is lowered I don't think you would see the light. Are the bar end lights indicators? Expensive donuts when you get a 1/4 each 😂
you don't need an electric bike in cities like London, a normal push bike is better and healthier!
shik
Kind of just charge while working
Sadly not for me. Long term my goal is to get a Tesla and an ebike to be my main transport needs. Plus I use my two legs which are free.
Wow vaporbike..
When I can get a 2Kw conversion kit for my tadpole trike for £800, this bike's an expensive toy and gimmicky rather than practical. Sure, 2Kw apparently isn't 'legal', but then the rule makers aren't the ones who need to crack a burst of speed out when a twat of a boy racer is trying to sideswipe them into a ditch. 250w really is only for urban riding. And ditching the car when you live in the sticks with unreliable public transport, isn't viable.
only for groceries with sidewaks.... Are you really gonna ride that out in the street with major traffic?
Well yeah people bike over Uber Eats orders regularly.
There are 1 million ebike choices, and Modmo has the audacity to give you one with wishful-thinking would-be accessories instead of a finished bike? They think they plan to have a surfboard accessory? Please. How about we review finished bikes? The video on their website is much more compelling to make you believe they build a quality bike.
And can also cost as much or more than your car. 🤣🇬🇧
Oi young lady, where's your glasses 😎? Get a fly in your eye & regret it 😥
LOL! HUB motor (without torque sensor) in front wheel instead of proper mid drive motor (Brose/Bosh/Yamaha/Shimano/Ananda/Bafang) !?! No derailleur? Typical chinese junk. For 2500 euro I have very good mid drive ebike (100nm and 500w) with 840 Wh battery!
A special modular mount....aka a proprietary mounting system that allows them to sell over priced accessories to pretentious Londoners.
you are really attractive. your teeth and nose are perfect lol
omg and youre eyes. i know this is cringe but you are.
Your selling air
Huh?! So an ebike is just a regular bike with a battery for headlights? You still have to pedal for the bike to go?!! Nice donuts but what's the purpose of an electric bike? LOL
The motor assists you up to 15.5mph before it cuts out. You have to pedal because - wait for it - It's still a bicycle. if you're too lazy to pedal get a moped/motorbike.
very handy for a 04:00 start in the morning when Taxis cost £5.50 each way four days a week and coming home there is a big hill that you can still go up at 15.5 mile per hour instead of walking up it with a normal bike
@@barbaraneville5036 u see...that would be a better video...compare ebike to a regular bike (not a car). Show someone pedaling the ebike until she reaches the bottom of a hill, then switches on the electricity to ride the ebike up. Then, the caption reads, "Why drop your donuts or sweat heavily when you don't have to going into the office? " LAZINESS is good cuz it sells ;) Good luck!
An e bike is for old people like me so I can keep cycleing for my last few years of life .. Why these youngsters use them is totaly beyond me .i guess if you don't have a ''propper ' job and work in an office your legs go weak .
@@johnsshed995 LOL stay strong & prosper my friend ;)
Why did your liar site not give us any money?🤨🤨🤔
corse it can replace a car but most people are to fat and lazy.to cycle
Is that some lucky seat or what? And btw honey your seat is to low. Especially if you continue to pedal so much.
This is some BS content! Ebikes can't replace the car! Good luck carrying the weekly shopping, having 2 kid's and going to IKEA 😂 When it rains, snows then you're going to regret it!
Your mention of IKEA says more about you than you realise
@@billmarsh1971 Ok, how about B&Q? Seems you don't shop in Ikea I presume. 🤔
See no point in this 'modular' design. A proprietary gimmick if format is not shared with other manufacturers. Specialized vado fully replaced my car over 3 years ago. solidly attached rack built in. Ortlieb bags pop off in seconds. Kid seat attaches on quick release.
This saigon bike is a terrible design for a cargo carrier taking off at busy urban traffic lights, especially on an uphill with any weight on the back, eg a child seat. Who in their right mind would buy a skidding front hub motor ebike these days? Great having no gears on a belt drive. Guess designers assumed the user never faces a steep hillstart with any significant amount of cargo on the back? Rudimentary physics fail.
Sitting on the back of my mothers bike while she rides on a busy city street? It’s child abuse even if I wasn’t physically injured.
Also, no front suspension? Not for this price.
So little information about the bike… not sure what the point was?… waste of time
I thought technology doesn't go back.
E-bike is a scam.
I'd rather sitting in my Porsche enjoying air conditioning, wearing Gucci flip-flops, in the meantime maybe watching cyclists sweating and smelling like a pork in 100 degrees summer or rain if they can really cycle at all.
But those cyclists will probably be much more fitter and healthier than you and they will you leave you in the dust while you're stuck in your cage burning fuel in a long traffic jam moving at 1mph, having to avoid LTNs and road closures, paying large amounts in insurance and VED for the 'privilege', so while your porsche may do 170mph+ you will barely ever achieve that in a city and the 'smelly' cyclist will wave you goodbye.
@@MrVaultTec There is a thing called highway. Good luck cycling there.
@@NomadFM Err... this is about commuting in the city. Did you not realise this?
@@MrVaultTec Maybe you don't live where I live. But I do realize the time you wasted on eBike will buy yourself a Porsche.
@@NomadFM Well you obviously don't live in the UK as we don't use the term highway here. Quite frankly I think you're talking utter nonsense. Show me some calculations to prove your theory.
Please consider taking vocal coaching if you plan more public speaking, even just yt. your hard-pan full nasal vocal frying croaking is incredibly annoying to those us who appreciate good talking, and just think how you will sound at 60, I know you are far away from that but it comes fast. Sound too much like Russell Brand who I can't listen to for the same reason, simply not enjoyable when you are getting shivers down my spine like your nails on an old chalkboard...