It definitely shows he was being genuine with his reasons for hating Spider Man; "What's with the mask? What's he trying to hide?". He hated SM because he couldn't trust him, he couldn't trust him because there was no way to hold him accountable for his failures, and there was no way to hold him accountable because of his anonymity. Once JJ had a face and name for the man under the mask; he became the one who could hold him accountable, which meant he could trust him as much as he trusted himself.
Jonah turning into Spider-Man's bro after discovering his identity reminds me of when Lionel Luthor (the main antagonist of "Smallvile" during its first seasons) became Clark's best friend and confidant after discovering his powers, while his son Lex little by little became more and more evil. It was a very fascinating exchange of roles between father and son!
@@quentin1326 He hates Clark for the same reason as the comics. Jealousy. He can't stand not being the most powerful man in the world, and the fact that Superman also had a loving family when Lex had to grow up with the Luthors just made his jealousy and hatred grow out of control. There was also hints at Lex being mentally ill.
Jameson: "It turns out my star reporter who I've paid who knows how much money for years was Spider-Man all this time!" 😢 Perry White: "HAHAHAHA! Oh, Jonah. A real editor would know since the beginning when a worker of his has a secret life. For example, if Superman himself was one of my reporters, I would have instantly deduced it. Don't you think, Kent? Cark Kent: "Yeah, Mr White...Sure"
jonah was never a bad person, he was just a broken man with anger issues and a misplaced hatred, there are many cases we saw he was a good and even noble man from time to time, broken people does mistakes and even if not all, some mistakes can be redeemed and be forgaved.
I absolutely love how they went about this. Changing their relationship into a one of mutual annoyance balanced by respect and trust was an absolute masterstroke.
I think the fact it took so long is what made it worth it. Took his own life and Peter's being nearly in shambles, to realize just how fucked a life Peter had, then everything built up from there.
Honestly, I hope they do this in the MCU, not to mention this is not talk more than usual about JJ being like a father figure for Peter Parker/Spider-Man. 😢
The first time Jonah saw Spider-Man unmasked in ASM #12 (1963) he thought it was Peter pretending to be Spider-Man. It helped that Peter caught the flu which made his powers not work right. Even Doc Ock (who unmasked him) didn't think he was the real Spidey.
I personally like that before JJ finds out Peter is Spider-Man - He's an angry American but after he finds out - Polite Englishman , Like a Marvel Alfred .
Jameson demanding his money back for the pictures is funny, but isn’t he wrong about them being fraud? Peter did take those pictures himself, so he should have every right to sell them to the Bugle.
Right? He might’ve omitted that he was Spider-Man himself in those photos, but they all WERE photos of Spider-Man doing his thing on the days that the events reported on took place. And if anyone shouldn’t be talking about Fraud, it’s Jonah, who basically spent a good portion of his career on a smear campaign against Spider-Man, which included fear mongering, embezzlement, and attempted assault and murder. Dude made like 2-3 supervillains because he hated Spidey that much, and he wants to talk about fraud?
I don't think he was speaking literally. It was a frantic and emotional moment and they're only just starting to open up to one another about how they each feel about this new situation. Stands to reason there'd be hurt feelings and venting.
I'm sorry but Jonah is the reason Peter lost his ability to make money as Spiderman in the first place. And when Peter tried to sell his pocs to the Daily Globe for a change, it's Jonah who willingly enticed him to having his position back.
I really need to see more of this. I know about the Civil War moment where Jonah Confronts Peter, but compared with this... i just want to see more of Jonah helping Peter after knowing he's Spider-Man
This reminds me of a fan story, can't remember where I saw it, but JJJ always knew Peter was spiderman (or at least figured it out when Pete was an adult) Venom came to him offering spidermans real identity. James told him to f off because while he gives spiderman grief, he does it to make sure Peter stays on the straight and build up his tolerance. He goes to say Venom, Eddie, is a weakling because he could never take the pressure the way Peter can.
You know. This always screamed at me one more reason Peter never turned on Jonah… he could have caused so many other issues criminal wise and didn’t… the … hope? He had for Jonah might have been the buried chrono memories telling him the man just needed time… I do sorta wanna see a time jump to where Jonah sees himself learning Spider-Man’s identity in Civil War tho during that news conference… That one tho, I suspected is more about lack of respect. Peter COULD have given Jonah the heads up… and didn’t.
Okay, I think this is going to have to be a series I actually pick up and read. Always get paralyzed by how many different iterations of the comics there are, but this is so different from everything else I've consumed that's spider-man related.
JJ has to be a fast thinker, so often his actions would go ahead before thought of them even happened. Its not really a surprise that so many of his actions against Spider-man threatened his life
I hope they do something like this in spider-man 3, since it's the final game and they want to make pete have a happy ending supposedly, this could be one way to achieve that.... A comic adaptation of an actual good thing happening to pete
I hope other incarnations would have Jameson learn Peter’s identity, becoming a semi Spider-Man mythos, at least with if the Jamesons are more caring for Peter or like a uncle figure.
J.J has been humbled or was always a good man just misunderstood how the world has altered since his youth and then how a young person like Peter has become a masked hero and kept his secret of identity from him. A Goodman is inside Spiderman and J.J is similar to Peter, but he uses the written word as his shield on a level to give himself a bit of leverage of normality. Peter trusts his family to his identity so now J.J is like an adopted father figure or uncle? Of course, things will change and the devil is in the details these years trust isn't everything it is how the truth will continue to be altered in the universe of web?
Ok if people in the marvel universe are still hating spider man even though he’s been doing this for 15 years and is no longer being harassed by Jonah then WTF?!
JJJ put a lot of time and effort into doing what modern media does; screaming at people that they SHOULD hate Spider Man, and that he can't be trusted. He's conditioned them to look past all the good he's done to look for some sinister ulterior motive until they find some decontextualized piece of nothing based on a misquoted rumor about something that never happened that confirms the preconceived notions he gave them.
How was it fraud? There was public demand for photos of Spider-Man, Jameson wanted the photos, yeah its funny that Spider-Man was just giving selfies of himself but how is it fraud?
I personally like that before JJ finds out Peter is Spider-Man - He's an angry American but after he finds out - Polite Englishman , Like a Marvel Alfred .
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I feel like he trusts Peter more than he hates Spiderman.
Was thinking why he does what he does, and boom, you nailed it for me. It's exactly this.
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It definitely shows he was being genuine with his reasons for hating Spider Man; "What's with the mask? What's he trying to hide?". He hated SM because he couldn't trust him, he couldn't trust him because there was no way to hold him accountable for his failures, and there was no way to hold him accountable because of his anonymity. Once JJ had a face and name for the man under the mask; he became the one who could hold him accountable, which meant he could trust him as much as he trusted himself.
He hates the mask. There is no accountability. But he knows Parker, watched him grow up. There’s a bond in that
@@rolandswift4311 jjj trust nobody.
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Jonah turning into Spider-Man's bro after discovering his identity reminds me of when Lionel Luthor (the main antagonist of "Smallvile" during its first seasons) became Clark's best friend and confidant after discovering his powers, while his son Lex little by little became more and more evil. It was a very fascinating exchange of roles between father and son!
Well there was a little more to it than that but yeah
I never watched the whole series, but from what I did watch it seems the only reason Lex "hates" Clark is "I'm a Luthor and Luthors are evil."
@@quentin1326 He hates Clark for the same reason as the comics. Jealousy. He can't stand not being the most powerful man in the world, and the fact that Superman also had a loving family when Lex had to grow up with the Luthors just made his jealousy and hatred grow out of control.
There was also hints at Lex being mentally ill.
@@Zachary- Thanks. I should have guessed. Honestly the way the series started I was almost expecting a bromance. Now that's what I wanted to see.
Smallville was bad.
Jameson: "It turns out my star reporter who I've paid who knows how much money for years was Spider-Man all this time!" 😢
Perry White: "HAHAHAHA! Oh, Jonah. A real editor would know since the beginning when a worker of his has a secret life. For example, if Superman himself was one of my reporters, I would have instantly deduced it. Don't you think, Kent?
Cark Kent: "Yeah, Mr White...Sure"
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jonah was never a bad person, he was just a broken man with anger issues and a misplaced hatred, there are many cases we saw he was a good and even noble man from time to time, broken people does mistakes and even if not all, some mistakes can be redeemed and be forgaved.
I absolutely love how they went about this. Changing their relationship into a one of mutual annoyance balanced by respect and trust was an absolute masterstroke.
out of all the things that happened in the comics, Im surprised it took this long for them to finally get JJ to be buddies with Peter, so wholesome!
I think the fact it took so long is what made it worth it. Took his own life and Peter's being nearly in shambles, to realize just how fucked a life Peter had, then everything built up from there.
Jonah has always been a hardass and a prick, but he’s not a bad person.
He supports mutant civil rights.
JK Simmons is goated as Jonah but.. a British Jonah ain’t bad at all
Hard disagree. He's soft and pliable, like a flip flop worn in a hot shower.
@@SullySadfaceHe spat poetry I don’t agree with but can’t help but admire.
Darin de Paul is excellent too. He doesn't really look like Jonah like Simmons does but he has the much better voice.
Parker all those pictures you took? selfies!
You turned my newspaper into a Damm magazine!
Honestly, I hope they do this in the MCU, not to mention this is not talk more than usual about JJ being like a father figure for Peter Parker/Spider-Man. 😢
more like good uncle :) even if he had uncle ben what was more like father to him than jj
I always think of JJJ as more of an Uncle Figure in Parker's life.
Would be hard as JJ and Peter do have a closer relationship because JJ dad married aunt May
Hate to point this out but Peter's parental figures do not have a good history of surviving in the MCU... 😅
A plot like that would almost satisfyingly end Peters' arc in a stand-alone sense of things before any future installments. Would love it
Peter: I am Spider-Man, mr. Jameson
Jonah: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...You serious?
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The first time Jonah saw Spider-Man unmasked in ASM #12 (1963) he thought it was Peter pretending to be Spider-Man. It helped that Peter caught the flu which made his powers not work right. Even Doc Ock (who unmasked him) didn't think he was the real Spidey.
It's so sweet seeing J.Jonah Jameson ask for forgiveness and help spiderman.
I personally like that before JJ finds out Peter is Spider-Man - He's an angry American but after he finds out - Polite Englishman , Like a Marvel Alfred .
I sincerely hope that Tom Holland's Spiderman has a very personal relationship with J.K Simmons's J.J. I really want this on screen
Jameson demanding his money back for the pictures is funny, but isn’t he wrong about them being fraud? Peter did take those pictures himself, so he should have every right to sell them to the Bugle.
Right? He might’ve omitted that he was Spider-Man himself in those photos, but they all WERE photos of Spider-Man doing his thing on the days that the events reported on took place. And if anyone shouldn’t be talking about Fraud, it’s Jonah, who basically spent a good portion of his career on a smear campaign against Spider-Man, which included fear mongering, embezzlement, and attempted assault and murder. Dude made like 2-3 supervillains because he hated Spidey that much, and he wants to talk about fraud?
I don't think he was speaking literally. It was a frantic and emotional moment and they're only just starting to open up to one another about how they each feel about this new situation. Stands to reason there'd be hurt feelings and venting.
I'm sorry but Jonah is the reason Peter lost his ability to make money as Spiderman in the first place. And when Peter tried to sell his pocs to the Daily Globe for a change, it's Jonah who willingly enticed him to having his position back.
Jonah sounds like Winnie the Pooh in this video 😂
Jonah: Wait you're spiderman!? Oh bother. Oh well, no use crying over spilled honey.
That’s Mr Sanders to you.
I can't ever imagine hearing J. Jonah Jameson without JK Simmons' voice.
right i was like when did we imagine him with an accent other than a slight new york accent😂
Never watch the 90s series?
I really need to see more of this.
I know about the Civil War moment where Jonah Confronts Peter, but compared with this... i just want to see more of Jonah helping Peter after knowing he's Spider-Man
I agree. This is truly one of the most unique, creative, and brilliant character arc concepts they've come up with in years... possibly decades.
This reminds me of a fan story, can't remember where I saw it, but JJJ always knew Peter was spiderman (or at least figured it out when Pete was an adult)
Venom came to him offering spidermans real identity. James told him to f off because while he gives spiderman grief, he does it to make sure Peter stays on the straight and build up his tolerance. He goes to say Venom, Eddie, is a weakling because he could never take the pressure the way Peter can.
It's a green text lmao
You know.
This always screamed at me one more reason Peter never turned on Jonah… he could have caused so many other issues criminal wise and didn’t… the … hope? He had for Jonah might have been the buried chrono memories telling him the man just needed time…
I do sorta wanna see a time jump to where Jonah sees himself learning Spider-Man’s identity in Civil War tho during that news conference…
That one tho, I suspected is more about lack of respect. Peter COULD have given Jonah the heads up… and didn’t.
This actually nearly made me cry.
The narrator sounds kinda like Morgan Freeman.
I am so glad I stumbled upon these videos because they're made in such a way that makes it some damn fine storytelling.
Okay, I think this is going to have to be a series I actually pick up and read. Always get paralyzed by how many different iterations of the comics there are, but this is so different from everything else I've consumed that's spider-man related.
JJ has to be a fast thinker, so often his actions would go ahead before thought of them even happened. Its not really a surprise that so many of his actions against Spider-man threatened his life
I hope they do something like this in spider-man 3, since it's the final game and they want to make pete have a happy ending supposedly, this could be one way to achieve that....
A comic adaptation of an actual good thing happening to pete
Didn't know JJ was British .
He just became a father figure
“IS THIS WHAT YOUR LIFE IS LIKE?!”
People forget Peter was only 14 when his webs got tangled
I hope other incarnations would have Jameson learn Peter’s identity, becoming a semi Spider-Man mythos, at least with if the Jamesons are more caring for Peter or like a uncle figure.
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jonah a real one
So… you wanna tell me why your TTS uses Shujunko’s voice, and not. I dunno, J.K. simmon’s ai voice? Since Omniman is in the roster :/
That JJ voice is off-putting
I think that Comic Stories might not know what J. Jonah Jamison sounds like.
J.J has been humbled or was always a good man just misunderstood how the world has altered since his youth and then how a young person like Peter has become a masked hero and kept his secret of identity from him. A Goodman is inside Spiderman and J.J is similar to Peter, but he uses the written word as his shield on a level to give himself a bit of leverage of normality. Peter trusts his family to his identity so now J.J is like an adopted father figure or uncle? Of course, things will change and the devil is in the details these years trust isn't everything it is how the truth will continue to be altered in the universe of web?
You should do marvel zombies next and when is part 2 of ruins coming out
Uhhhh why the British-ish accent for Jameson? He's not Alfred... He's born and raised in NYC not London...
Music that was used?
Ok if people in the marvel universe are still hating spider man even though he’s been doing this for 15 years and is no longer being harassed by Jonah then WTF?!
JJJ put a lot of time and effort into doing what modern media does; screaming at people that they SHOULD hate Spider Man, and that he can't be trusted. He's conditioned them to look past all the good he's done to look for some sinister ulterior motive until they find some decontextualized piece of nothing based on a misquoted rumor about something that never happened that confirms the preconceived notions he gave them.
Why did Jonah’s mustache slowly disappear into a certain artistic dictator’s mustache?
The person you used for jjj in this video doesn’t fit at all
Why does he sound like Winnie the Pooh 😭
My Love tears pls more
Hello, excuse me, I would like to know please how do you do the dubbing? Do you hire actors ? Or do you use AI ? If yes which one please ? Thanks
i like these better than jonah revenge plots although they can be cathartic as well lol
Jamison not hating Spider-Man that’s new Who knows maybe something similar might happen in the MCU
Why does JJ sound like Batman’s butler Alfred?
Hold up, "personality transplant? What the fuck?
what do you mean fraud? those pictures of Spiderman were all authentic!
can someone tell me what comic comes next?
I though this was omniman and invincible ngl
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Did anyone else hear winnie the pooh?
They put Omni man in Spider-Man??!
JJ Jonah Jameson look like a fox 🦊
in the car why did jonah look like andrew garfield
How was it fraud? There was public demand for photos of Spider-Man, Jameson wanted the photos, yeah its funny that Spider-Man was just giving selfies of himself but how is it fraud?
This is a weird sad comic but I’m questioning why some panels have Spider-Man wearing the black suit chest and legs and arms only
He isn't. It is his clothes. He didnt have time to properly get dressed into his costume so he seem to have just thrown on the mask.
Why does Jameson sound British in this?
He kinda looks like MatPat
2 months ago 😂
I hate Jonah’s accent so much.
So not the right choice of voice for Jonah.
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Dont take this the wrong way but uhh.....
Jameson sounds like winnie the pooh if he smoked.
I couldn’t make it through this man Jonah being British is too funny
I personally like that before JJ finds out Peter is Spider-Man - He's an angry American but after he finds out - Polite Englishman , Like a Marvel Alfred .