I followed this Tour via backpack, from the rainy TT in Epinal (where Alcala won) to Paris. I bought a can of spray paint in Grenoble and used to paint the Z logo at Lac de Vassivierre and snuck up into the stands to watch Lemond don the yellow jersey. I met a handful of Americans along the way and have many fond memories. Good times.
Fantastic. Nothing like following the Tour. It’s the last great people’s sports event, with spectators cheering from the grass verges like they were 100 years ago.
At a very destructive price considering 5G technology is going to be hazardous to human and animal health and the ecosystem which can not coexist with radiation of this magnitude!!
Thank you very much for uploading this. This is the tour that I saw at my grandparents as a kid, but didn't pay a lot of attention to (I only started really watching three years later) ... so finally I can see it again. A bit more informed and older :) Also very surprised to see "directed by Jurgen Leth" :)
I'm always a little sad to see this in retrospect. One of the last clean tours. Lemonde was shunned by the public, the cycling world and abandoned by his sponsors for saying that people were using PEDs later in the 90s. All too true in retrospect.
@@dansprague2 to think Chiapucci was clean just like Indurain..... What's alarming about Jonas Vingegaard was his best places in 2018-2020 was like 9th in the Tour de Pologne and a stage in some minor level race like Tour de Ain.... And then he's dominating the best riders in the world in the Tour de France in 2021-2023 and it's like ok he never even won the Young riders jersey cuz he was garbage and couldn't even be a Domestique in the Tour..... Is it possible to grow and mature mentally and become that strong between 21-25 years old..... Maybe.... Yeah maybe Pogacar slaughters everyone included WVA in the ITT and Vingegaard absolutely smokes him 🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬 ok sure, we'll see, I guess
@@dansprague2 Truth! I quit racing back in 1989 because I couldn't keep up with the top Cat 1/2's on anabolics and testosterone injections. They tried to get me to take the stuff. As a not-too-shabby clean rider, it was soul-crushing and insulting that the only way I would be highly competitive at the bigger races was to get on board the Dope Train. It was all so very sad. I loved my beautiful, beautiful sport so much.
@@dansprague2 Then you realize you have your data quite wrong. Jonas has monster TT records, beating pogacar in all late tdf TTs since his first tdf 2021. 2022 Even slowing down letting team mate win and still beating pogi in the TT. If anything he has shown he is top top elite in the TT and climbing as soon as he popped his head into cycling.
I remember watching stage 13 on the lobby of the hotel I was working at the time, I was 18 years old, I must have polished the crap out of the hand rail of the stairway close to the tv, 😂
I used to watch this video almost daily when I was 15 years old back in the very early 90s. Indurain was dominating and I always hated that. I wanted LeMond to win again. He never did, Indurain won year after year in his boring "super human" style by winning time trials by several minutes. I really think Indurain was on EPO. His dominance didn't make sense, nobody could touch him. LeMond was from a true golden age of cycling that died with Indurain.
Indurain was on EPO. About half the peloton was juiced by 1991. Lemond and his team in the 1991 tour were getting dropped on flat stages. Lemond has given interviews about this and he and his team mates couldn't figure out what was going on. It wasn't until a few years later that they learned what was happening in the peloton.
@@brianmcg321 by 1991, even though EPO already there, it not that widespread as it was later on. Leblanc got his position fair and square. Mottet, who had as good rep as LeMond, finished ahead of him. On Joux Plan stage, when LeMond dropped, he was with Riis, which we knew was on hot stuff later on
@@brianmcg321 1991 was beginning of epo. Countless of clean riders still got results until 1993 like Andrew hampsten, Alvaro mejia and Charly mottet. Even Leblanc was still clean in 92 and finished 5th Like it or not. Indurain was a natural. He was already one of the best riders in 89 and 90 tours when epo was virtually non existent and indurain was still supposedly 85 kg
Thanks to Phil for these T.D.F videos. Every year during the tour, i am watching the old tours thanks to Paul and Phil. I just wish this technology was available during the 70's, 60's and earlier. And to all you Armstrong haters for doping, just know this, every year lance won, i would say the top 7-8 in the overall were doping. Every winner in the 90's was doping. Dont take it personal, its just facts. It wasn't just Lance!
The first tour I watched all the way through. I was transfixed and LeMond became my hero as a young lad. Cycling just doesn’t seem to have this magic nowadays. Also Thierry Mariés position seems to be as good as any modern rider and ahead of the others.
Always wondered what the race organisers were thinking, putting the photographers in that wedge-like setup, directly after the finish line? A miracle no one got seriously hurt.
@Richard Dixon haha. Dixon, just out of curiosity why did you say that? That's got nothing to do with the TDF. I'm just curious where you're coming from.
@Richard Dixon no doubt. I , personally know nothing about thee gay cycling club. I do however know that doping always has been in cycling. I'm familiar with the the tour culture also and that's the reason why Greg all of a sudden became a recreational rider as soon as 1991 came along. Miguel won 5 in a row . he was riding at what? 170lbs 175lbs..? Furthermore Lemond never was even accused of doping. No whispers not even jealous whispers. Bonds can't claim the same . that's the difference between your elusion between Barry Bonds and Greg Lemond. With all due respect.
@Richard Dixon I can appreciate your opinion. Are you referring to when he got shot hunting? Greg was always a loner an outlier. Even on his teams. When he was with Renault he won the Worlds. La Vie was doping probably. He went from Bottechhia to Tomasso because he was not happy for obvious reasons. I'm just informing you. No need to prove anything. I'm educated to inform. I remember Kathy complaining... It was hard for her. The WHOLE team was cheating. ( not hole btw ). I'm sure you believe what you think but I'm telling you sir it isn't accurate..
You're kidding right....in the opening credits it clearly states the music is done by Absolute Music, that would be these people, www.absolutemusiclibrary.com/#!home, now you're going to have to dig for it.
Lemond is the GOAT. He could and should have won 7 plus TDF if he had not been shot, his own team had not screwed him in 1985, and all a la natural and clean unlike the fraud Armstrong and the rest. Truly an incredible athlete Lemond was with a VO2 Max of 92 to Armstrong’s 78.
@@dansprague2 On the day they attacked him en masse, he would've been up with them without the puncture. La Plagne was his bad day (2 mins to Roche and Delgado), you take the 4 mins. he lost and the 1;44 and 2;36 he took out of Roche and Delgado respectively in the final TT and you have a TDF winner.
@@kidpagronprimsank05 So he knew it and actively contributed to it? Sounds quite similar to being the one who threw the unwritten rules out the window ('these unwritten rules are not worth the paper they're written on!'). Attacking at a feed zone is generally considered as low as attacking a race leader who has punctured.
@@simonthomsen8578 I just think it's well documented and his performances started to wane when the EPO era was ushered in. He's one of the few I genuinely believe
@@gargantuk I'm not saying he was taking EPO, though that's certainly a possibility, since it had been around since 1987 - up until that point, the riders were using blood doping, which helped a lot but wasn't quite as effective. Could be that he was still caught up in the old ways?? Or maybe his body just didn't respond very well to EPO at all. Plus it's common for cyclists to go down on level in their start 30's (31 for Lemond). Look at Delgado, a well known doper. Flops completely in 1990 tour at 29 years of age, having just won the tour and made the podium a year before. Or Schleck. Or Bardet. Lemond also had an illness concerning weakened muscles causing him to stop - maybe that was the cause of his lower level instead? Soooo many questions, sooo many possibilities. So I ask again: how can you be so fucking certain!?
@@simonthomsen8578 Well Simon, you're obviously quite angry and your use of aggressive blue language underlines that. The truth is I can't be totally sure, like anything in life. I just happen to personally believe Lemond was clean, quite rare in the sport at that time. Whilst I like to think the sport is a lot cleaner these days, am sure there are still some riders trying to gain an unfair advantage by doping somehow.
@@drunkensailor112 Come fai a dire questo? Perché sono italiani? Gli altri e il vostro Lemond erano più puliti? Dicevano lo stesso di Armostrong poi si è scoperta la verità.
The french were always worried about the american globalist agenda ripping the heart and soul out of cycling which is so self evident from the geometry of the raceing bike today to the utter decline and decadence of the sport which solely rest at the hands and feet of the american globalist.. Bill Gates and Co
I followed this Tour via backpack, from the rainy TT in Epinal (where Alcala won) to Paris. I bought a can of spray paint in Grenoble and used to paint the Z logo at Lac de Vassivierre and snuck up into the stands to watch Lemond don the yellow jersey. I met a handful of Americans along the way and have many fond memories. Good times.
Great story and memories!
Fantastic. Nothing like following the Tour. It’s the last great people’s sports event, with spectators cheering from the grass verges like they were 100 years ago.
Hard to imagine when watching this on RUclips that the internet and YT was simply unimaginable in 1990
Amazing to be able to see it all so easily now.
At a very destructive price considering 5G technology is going to be hazardous to human and animal health and the ecosystem which can not coexist with radiation of this magnitude!!
@@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp idiot alert Here!
Love the music
1989: it never rains
1990: it always rains
Thank you very much for uploading this. This is the tour that I saw at my grandparents as a kid, but didn't pay a lot of attention to (I only started really watching three years later) ... so finally I can see it again. A bit more informed and older :) Also very surprised to see "directed by Jurgen Leth" :)
Glad you enjoyed it
Jørgen Leth was also a legendary bicycle commentator on Danish television for many years.
I'm always a little sad to see this in retrospect. One of the last clean tours. Lemonde was shunned by the public, the cycling world and abandoned by his sponsors for saying that people were using PEDs later in the 90s. All too true in retrospect.
Zen of wheels. Healing and .
Mending riders b by Dr. Mccormick
@@dansprague2 to think Chiapucci was clean just like Indurain..... What's alarming about Jonas Vingegaard was his best places in 2018-2020 was like 9th in the Tour de Pologne and a stage in some minor level race like Tour de Ain.... And then he's dominating the best riders in the world in the Tour de France in 2021-2023 and it's like ok he never even won the Young riders jersey cuz he was garbage and couldn't even be a Domestique in the Tour..... Is it possible to grow and mature mentally and become that strong between 21-25 years old..... Maybe.... Yeah maybe Pogacar slaughters everyone included WVA in the ITT and Vingegaard absolutely smokes him 🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬 ok sure, we'll see, I guess
@@dansprague2 Truth! I quit racing back in 1989 because I couldn't keep up with the top Cat 1/2's on anabolics and testosterone injections. They tried to get me to take the stuff. As a not-too-shabby clean rider, it was soul-crushing and insulting that the only way I would be highly competitive at the bigger races was to get on board the Dope Train. It was all so very sad. I loved my beautiful, beautiful sport so much.
Sorry to pop your bubble friend.
As Jacques Anquetil said the tour is not won on vitamins and water.
@@dansprague2 Then you realize you have your data quite wrong.
Jonas has monster TT records, beating pogacar in all late tdf TTs since his first tdf 2021. 2022 Even slowing down letting team mate win and still beating pogi in the TT. If anything he has shown he is top top elite in the TT and climbing as soon as he popped his head into cycling.
I remember watching stage 13 on the lobby of the hotel I was working at the time, I was 18 years old, I must have polished the crap out of the hand rail of the stairway close to the tv, 😂
Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
I used to watch this video almost daily when I was 15 years old back in the very early 90s.
Indurain was dominating and I always hated that. I wanted LeMond to win again. He never did, Indurain won year after year in his boring "super human" style by winning time trials by several minutes.
I really think Indurain was on EPO. His dominance didn't make sense, nobody could touch him.
LeMond was from a true golden age of cycling that died with Indurain.
Indurain was on EPO. About half the peloton was juiced by 1991. Lemond and his team in the 1991 tour were getting dropped on flat stages. Lemond has given interviews about this and he and his team mates couldn't figure out what was going on. It wasn't until a few years later that they learned what was happening in the peloton.
@@brianmcg321 by 1991, even though EPO already there, it not that widespread as it was later on. Leblanc got his position fair and square. Mottet, who had as good rep as LeMond, finished ahead of him. On Joux Plan stage, when LeMond dropped, he was with Riis, which we knew was on hot stuff later on
@@brianmcg321 1991 was beginning of epo. Countless of clean riders still got results until 1993 like Andrew hampsten, Alvaro mejia and Charly mottet. Even Leblanc was still clean in 92 and finished 5th
Like it or not. Indurain was a natural. He was already one of the best riders in 89 and 90 tours when epo was virtually non existent and indurain was still supposedly 85 kg
@@drunkensailor112he was a natural, he had a large heart or was it lung capacity. He was probably still on something as they all were
@@peter101cycle1 yes, but I doubt he was on epo in 89 or 90. Even doubt 91
Fantastic video, fantastic race.
LeMond rode very strategic race, and with luck (Breukink bad day with bike in stage 16), and killer instinct in stage 13, he was the deserve winner
Claudio Chiappuci, a real gentleman and was I fighter the whole way. He even looked sincerely happy for Greg who is till this day my cycling hero.
Thanks to Phil for these T.D.F videos. Every year during the tour, i am watching the old tours thanks to Paul and Phil. I just wish this technology was available during the 70's, 60's and earlier. And to all you Armstrong haters for doping, just know this, every year lance won, i would say the top 7-8 in the overall were doping. Every winner in the 90's was doping. Dont take it personal, its just facts. It wasn't just Lance!
Greg lemond a legendary tour de france
Was in 1986
@@shane-irish And 1989... Even 1990 was very unusual.
@@villy27 86 was the best do
Beautiful era for the Jersey.
The first tour I watched all the way through. I was transfixed and LeMond became my hero as a young lad. Cycling just doesn’t seem to have this magic nowadays. Also Thierry Mariés position seems to be as good as any modern rider and ahead of the others.
I think in recent few years cycling has gotten incredible again with new generation of riders being so aggressive
Love the no helmets when they climb you can actually see who they are
i can tell apart basically the whole modern climbers just from team/stature and how they sit on the bike
A decisive win against "Capoochee."
Capoochee?
@@LukezyM Lemond's pronunciation. Reminds me of the way Mick Doohan would pronounce his teammate's name: "krivil."
It's like Trump when he says muchas gracias it's moooochas
Steve Bauer is so awesome. He’s so Canadian as the reporter hits him with the microphone in his head and face area. Lol.
he was a dirty sprinter and hooked more than once to win sprints he was losing
Cycling so much better back then
Always wondered what the race organisers were thinking, putting the photographers in that wedge-like setup, directly after the finish line? A miracle no one got seriously hurt.
10:33 was hilarious :D
I can't believe Lemond still ended up winning the 90 tour. He looked so thick and out of shape compared to 89.
What is the name of the song 🎵 that is played in the introductory 90 seconds please? Thank you.
Funny how Claudio Chiappucci threw the tour away in the same manner as Bernard Hinault (to Superbangneres) did for Lemond's first tour win.
Can anyone name the opening song here at 1 minute in please? Thank you
Greg LeMond. The great follower.
Lady reporter to Lemond after 13th stage
“How important was it for you to win the stage today?”
Lemond “LoL”
Wouldn't say there were still 2 stages by day at this time.
Plus glimpses of Indurain's TdF reign a year later
The last great TDF winner before the cheats showed up.
Is froome, thomas and bernal also cheating
Greg would have won in 91' too if nobody would have used PED's to prevent Greg from 3 peating.
@Richard Dixon haha. Dixon, just out of curiosity why did you say that? That's got nothing to do with the TDF. I'm just curious where you're coming from.
@Richard Dixon no doubt. I , personally know nothing about thee gay cycling club. I do however know that doping always has been in cycling. I'm familiar with the the tour culture also and that's the reason why Greg all of a sudden became a recreational rider as soon as 1991 came along. Miguel won 5 in a row . he was riding at what? 170lbs 175lbs..? Furthermore Lemond never was even accused of doping. No whispers not even jealous whispers. Bonds can't claim the same . that's the difference between your elusion between Barry Bonds and Greg Lemond. With all due respect.
@Richard Dixon I can appreciate your opinion. Are you referring to when he got shot hunting? Greg was always a loner an outlier. Even on his teams. When he was with Renault he won the Worlds. La Vie was doping probably. He went from Bottechhia to Tomasso because he was not happy for obvious reasons. I'm just informing you. No need to prove anything. I'm educated to inform. I remember Kathy complaining...
It was hard for her. The WHOLE team was cheating. ( not hole btw ). I'm sure you believe what you think but I'm telling you sir it isn't accurate..
The media, greg's greatest competition
What's up with John and Tim?
LeMond! 👍💪✌️
Open music, name, composer anyone please
Pretty sure it was john tesh , but I as well have been unable to find the audio tracks. Please let me know if you have any luck.
You're kidding right....in the opening credits it clearly states the music is done by Absolute Music, that would be these people, www.absolutemusiclibrary.com/#!home, now you're going to have to dig for it.
John tesh the open house
Lemond is the GOAT. He could and should have won 7 plus TDF if he had not been shot, his own team had not screwed him in 1985, and all a la natural and clean unlike the fraud Armstrong and the rest. Truly an incredible athlete Lemond was with a VO2 Max of 92 to Armstrong’s 78.
Moser genial
Delgado was an EPO pioneer. So was Indurain.
really liked the video,
but can't really get my head wrapped around the really poor pronounciation of the names.
I imagine Jeff Bernard would agree with Lemond (@1:27:45) as to the correctness of attacking a race leader/favourite when they puncture.
@@dansprague2 On the day they attacked him en masse, he would've been up with them without the puncture. La Plagne was his bad day (2 mins to Roche and Delgado), you take the 4 mins. he lost and the 1;44 and 2;36 he took out of Roche and Delgado respectively in the final TT and you have a TDF winner.
Actually it was Mottet who was the mastermind. He planed to attack at specific spot. Roche known it, and joined him.
@@kidpagronprimsank05 So he knew it and actively contributed to it? Sounds quite similar to being the one who threw the unwritten rules out the window ('these unwritten rules are not worth the paper they're written on!'). Attacking at a feed zone is generally considered as low as attacking a race leader who has punctured.
johan bruyneel whatever happened to him after this ?..............
He was 3rd place in 1990 Worlds road race
He was 1st in 1991 Worlds road race
He was 1st 1992 Worlds road race
And then of course he directed Team USPS
That Indurain kid is a pretty good. He might have a future if he can do more than time trial.
Regarding that first long time trial, one has to think 'poor Greg' - you can bet Alcala, Bugno and Indurain were all 'sur la jus'
How can you be so fucking sure that lemond wasnt doped?
@@simonthomsen8578 I just think it's well documented and his performances started to wane when the EPO era was ushered in. He's one of the few I genuinely believe
@@gargantuk I'm not saying he was taking EPO, though that's certainly a possibility, since it had been around since 1987 - up until that point, the riders were using blood doping, which helped a lot but wasn't quite as effective. Could be that he was still caught up in the old ways?? Or maybe his body just didn't respond very well to EPO at all. Plus it's common for cyclists to go down on level in their start 30's (31 for Lemond). Look at Delgado, a well known doper. Flops completely in 1990 tour at 29 years of age, having just won the tour and made the podium a year before. Or Schleck. Or Bardet. Lemond also had an illness concerning weakened muscles causing him to stop - maybe that was the cause of his lower level instead? Soooo many questions, sooo many possibilities. So I ask again: how can you be so fucking certain!?
@@gargantuk And how is it well documented?? There are no test results from back then that are still valid
@@simonthomsen8578 Well Simon, you're obviously quite angry and your use of aggressive blue language underlines that. The truth is I can't be totally sure, like anything in life. I just happen to personally believe Lemond was clean, quite rare in the sport at that time. Whilst I like to think the sport is a lot cleaner these days, am sure there are still some riders trying to gain an unfair advantage by doping somehow.
The golden age of cycling, such beautiful equipment, now they petal plastic, I'll stick with vintage thank you very much...😏😏😏
Weight lighted bikes today compared to the 80s and 90s.
ah yes, the over 50% hematocrit era. could've been indurain's first of six.
1990 was still very clean except for chiapucci and bugno. The first epo riders.
@@drunkensailor112 Come fai a dire questo? Perché sono italiani? Gli altri e il vostro Lemond erano più puliti? Dicevano lo stesso di Armostrong poi si è scoperta la verità.
A year without EPO?
No
Only bugno and chiapucci were on epo
Hardly a year without EPO and other drugs!! EPO became prevalent in the early 80s in the professional peleton!
This was actually the first tour indurain should've won. He was a beast here
His first couple tours he finished way back. Unlike all of the other multi tour winners whe started in top 3 first time.
@@richbarrows3922 his first couple of tours he was very young. He was still only 25 in this one
Europeans always hated anything American in that race
What a nonsense. The French did.
The french were always worried about the american globalist agenda ripping the heart and soul out of cycling which is so self evident from the geometry of the raceing bike today to the utter decline and decadence of the sport which solely rest at the hands and feet of the american globalist.. Bill Gates and Co