Cycling Tour de France 1986 -- The Final Time Trial LeMond vs Hinault -- Part 8 of 8
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Tour de France 1986 -- Greg LeMond wins his 1st Tour, the 1st American to ever win the Tour, defeating legendary French rider & 5-time Tour winner Bernard Hinault.
Part 8 of 8 : John Tesh & Phil Liggett cover the Tour live for the final time trial -- can Greg LeMond survive a crash to win his first Tour? Featuring complete broadcast of local CBS affilliates in Central Pennsylvania and Philadelphia.
All Front Seat Media Archive footage seen here is from my personal VHS collection recorded during 1986 and transferred into digital format by me. Thanks for watching history!
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🧘🏻♂🦡 0:37
Tesh got me into cycling. Cheesy sountrack aside, he told great stories about LeMond and the Tour. As a lonely 16 year-old who didn't know anything about cycling and how hard it is to compete at a high level, Tesh's production and story-telling compelled me to buy a race bike and embark on a five year journey that ended with me training in a foreign country with some of the best riders in the sport. Kudos to John Tesh and the movie Breaking Away for inspiring me to change my life.
Wonderful story
Tesh got me into the sport, too. The '85 Tour was my first exposure, from watching Tesh and his CBS Sports Tour segments, then by the time the '86 Tour came along, Greg LeMond was my 19-year-old self's sports hero. I bought a bike and started riding & training & racing, always with Tesh's Music From Le Tour cassette blaring in my Walkman! All the back roads here in Pennsylvania I trained on were, to me, the roads of France in July, and all the hills I climbed were Alpe D'Huez or The Tourmalet lol!
I heard John later talk about his handful of years covering The Tour and how it changed and shaped him. CBS went low budget and only sent Tesh and a cameraman to France, that was it. So Tesh and his camera guy followed the Tour each day, filming, then each night they'd splice together and narrate the clips we all came to view, and John would compose and record the accompanying music on his small keyboard/synth he took along with him. All very low budget, but to me, all very legendary as well! These John Tesh/CBS Sports Tour segments sparked my lifelong love of Le Tour and they will always be special to me!
@@FrontSeatMedia that's a fantastic story
Yes same thing for me - I wound up buying several bikes I couldn’t pronounce… because of the TDF and Tesh….. Wow the 80s where epic!!!!
I was a junior racing in Canada and the US at the time and recall loving Tesh's music so much I bought his soundtrack and stuffed my huge walkman into my jersey pocket and trained with it...I was flying! haha
I wish a movie would be made about Greg, he is a true champion!
Watch Slaying the Badger!
I love the old bike technology
LeMond. What CLASS.
As a young Australian in the late 80's n early 90's I could only get snippets of the TDF on a sports program called Wide World of Sports and would religeous glue myself to the TV then afterwards hop on my bike and ride up my local mountain thinking I was Phil Anderson, Delgado or Indurain etc. Was a fun time of my life 👍
It was a great time for all of us who were young back then!
@Tutubee 🐝 Cheers to a fellow bike nutter 👍🤣
What a wonderful wifey Kathy LeMond is. She really is awesome and nice. Greg's a lucky man to have a wife that really cares to the extent she does.
Other wives would care less is it?
@@Akkiben - At least a few other wives would see cycling as just a job, and not understand the sport of cycling and how tough it is. There was also the team politics going on, where the team was split along continental lines, with the North Americans supporting Greg's bid to win, and the Europeans supporting Hinault. She understood all of that and supported Greg through it all. Another excellent cycling wife is Betsy Andreu, who had the strength and courage to stand up to Lance Armstrong and his ability to control and entire cycling team, including her husband to stop him from continuing to dope. I trust you understand now.
Behind a great man...
@@Akkiben My wife wouldn´t give a fuck😅
The good old days, before EPO, HGH, 'marginal gains' and all that. Lemond will always be the last true champion.
Around the early 90s that's when the sport went downhill. All the greats suddenly couldn't compete with a new generation of cyclists (that were all doping).
You think they've got a disc in the back because they don't care about marginal gains over their opponent???
No that’s Indurain
I think (not sure, but I think), that Cadel Evans was clean.
This is what got me addicted to cycling....
Yes was def a great era the best, when riders battled it out one on one, not like pro cycling today
Yes same here, after watching the 86 tour I got addicted, both of them became role models
0:37 🧘🏻♂
2:13 🦡
Me too 🇺🇸
Patrí k mojím obľúbeným cestným cyklistom... He is one of my favorite road cyclists
Bob Roll was only an hour and 42 minutes back.
Only.
the Roll Meister lol
This is the best quality video of I have seen of this era in decades.
Thank you, Nicholas. I recorded all of this Tour on my VCR during each broadcast back in the day on high quality Fuji videocassettes. Kept them all these years, would pull them out occasionally and watch the awesome footage. Finally decided to convert them all to digital format and post them here for posterity to enjoy. I have the complete 1986 and 1987 Tour TV coverage uploaded here on the channel so far, with footage up thru 1993 yet to come! It's quite time consuming to edit, but look for it here eventually.
An iconic Tour...
Maybe the best. Ever.
At least that I've witnessed in my lifetime.
Greg’s win, convinced me to start training to race
LeMond our Champion.
I was 15yrs old when I watched this video the first time in 1986. It was my first year of cycling. This was the video that ignited the fire. Of all TDF videos, this is my favorite. Kathy said it right, he was killing himself trying to win this tour. He was all alone on this French team. Sure, he had hampsten, Bauer and a couple others that would help him but the odds were against him. The French team, the French team director and all of France wanted hinault to get his 5th. This drama combined with the music/soundtrack (which I bought and still have!!) made it an incredible thing to watch. You can talk all day about his TT victory in 89 or his 89 world championship win, but the 86 Tour de France is my pick. Years later I located one of his la vie Claire jerseys from the 86 Tour de France. The real thing. Has his initials in the neck and was sold to me by his private mechanic in an internet auction. It was one of the jerseys that had the wonder batteries on the back. It was only issued to be worn during the 86 tour, no other race that year. I have it framed and hanging in my house. It’s just a jersey to my friends and neighbors but to me it’s the holy grail that I look at on my wall every day. Some days I feel the odds are against me. I remember the struggle and fight lemond had. No one helping him. I gain the confidence when I look at that jersey and remember. Lemond was a hero in this 86 Tour de France. The United States has never produced a rider of this caliber, with this much European experience and success and with this high of a Vo2. Not even close.
Lance is the greatest cyclist of all time
@@trentjackson6837 but it's tainted. Before LeMond U.S. riders had absolutely no respect. It was difficult to build a team around LeMond, because the United States wasn't a marketable country for cycling at that time. Lance Armstrong benefited from LeMond's success, because the TDF became marketable, and Armstrong could build a strong team around him. Only 60 minute highlights were shown on Sunday to recap the whole week of the TDF back then. No newspaper or local tv covered it, and there wasn't any internet. Didn't know who won the week's stages and standings until Sunday. Now we have cable channels showing a full event coverage.
At 5:35 is that Urs Zimmerman that Hineault caught at the finish line? I presume it is, since time trials are done in reverse order, from the lowest placed to the highest placed riders, but confirmation would be nice.
Greatest feat in sports 🇺🇸🥇
Not True! Time trials only stages how we can calculeted how good these over-rated doping cyclists are Really! Doper Jacques Anquetil rode weak poor hour record 46159 meters in 1957! Long distance runners were better! Kuts run 13:35 5000 meters in 1957! Kuts closer 46,8km shape! Blood doper Franseco Moser build better bike than others and rode weak hour record 51151 meters in 1984! If Moser was a 10000 meter runner the result 27:45 and World record was 27:13! Crazy lunatic cycling broadcasters claiming wrongly that pro doping cyclists are the toughest and Best! No science data proof backs this big lie! Long distance runners cross country skiers swimmers triathlon athletes and so on better than Over-rated doping cyclists!
If he hadn't been shot, Hinault hadn't done the dirty on him, who knows, he might be the only 6 times winner of le Tour. An absolute God with super-human gifts.
Yesss, maybe 7. The battle btwn a full strength Lemond & Indurain wld hv been epic
Starting at 6:00 is just epic
In every way, yes! I love this John Tesh/CBS Sports coverage of the Tour, and I wish every Tour could still be covered this way!
Great video. Thanks for uploading.
You're welcome, Stark!
This Tour was amazing to watch back then, and to re-live to this day.
Great resolution thank you for uploading!! Such great memories...Greg got me into racing!
haha big theatre......your clip sounds like a tragic movie !!! Lemond could not loose in 86.....the suspens was totally artificial, orchestrated by Hinault and Bernard Tapie !!
66: Roll. (Bobke)
Bobke RULES!
To win against the odds in terms of what must be the whole of France being against you and to be so far from home. I am a big Hinault fan but could he be trusted?. Non?. LeMond got what he deserved.
The French did not want the tour to be a "gift" neither did Hinault I guess Hinault was on incredible form too the best all round rider won but Hinault made a race of it
Tesh overselling the "peddling at 35 mph" there when he is literally getting 25 mph. There would of had to be zero wind and super dry to get those speeds outside on the flats since they weren't even on tt bars. That's 56 km hr not even Boardman on the Lotus got that lol.
Are you sure? Greg LeMond's VO2 max was around 92.5, one of the highest ever recorded. A pro triathlete can maintain a 25 mph average speed. A pro cyclist should be significantly faster at their highest time trial speeds. So maybe LeMond was not going 34 mph the whole way, but certainly for parts of it he would be able to.
@@SanjaySingh-oh7hv Maintaining 25 mph even that is impressive if you are basically on a normal road bike ( non aero). The issue is wind and air pressure hence why you see now see $15,000 TT bikes with full disc wheels. UCI knows that the speeds have to improve this is why they allow $15,000 bike kits to be used. Back in the 1970's and middle of 1980's the speeds were very normal and flat. It's very obvious what everyone was on there are no saints in pro cycling. The speeds in 2023 on the Time Trials are faster and maintained for much longer but that is due to better training and also again bike kits pushing into the $20,000 range. If Indurain, Lemond had their bodies in the 1980's with the newer modern bikes I agree 35 mph would be sustained. The bikes they used had no bearing on modern aero features what so ever, most bikes had round tubes, many not even carbon yet. To think in 2001 Armstrong and all the riders were still riding round tubed bikes not much had changed since the 1970's. Modern bike kits give you more speed it's that simple and this is why Pro Cycling has lost it's magic, it's no longer about the rider but what $15,000 bike they riding.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 Let's compare notes. Recall in the 1989 Tour de France in the final time trial, when he beat Laurent Fignon by 8 seconds. As I recall that average speed for 24 kilometres was about 54 kph. That's about 33.6 miles per hour for that entire distance. This was 1989, remember, and it was legendary. Not even Lance's 58km time trial quite matches what LeMond did with pure heart. Equipment wise, the main difference was the addition of the triathlon handlebars to give him the advantage the triathletes had in 1987 when the Scott DH bars first appeared in the Iron Man triathlon. Fignon was somewhere around 50 kph with a traditional setup and no helmet, his ponytail flying in the wind. So it seems that 34 mph were already being achieved in the late 80s and into the 90s. The bikes have improved, true. But the biggest source of drag is still the rider, and rider position makes a bigger difference than any of the usual things like wheels and helmets and so on. Feel free to rebut.
@@SanjaySingh-oh7hv There is no need for rebuttals it proves to you 100% that like Eddy Merckx incredible times and Lances time that all top riders were completely at the end of the human body with pharma technology. This is why the UCI allows 17,000$ TT bikes these days as the old times ( testosterone and others) with heavier bikes mind you and non aero frames are still being looked at vs 2023. The UCI is allowing new lighter bikes with newer aero tech in order for the old times not to embarrass the new times on modern equipment. If you look at the Lemond Fignon time trial that TT proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Lemond was not only juiced to hell in that TT, but also proves that Fignon not even with TT bars would be able to match the speed of Lemond. I don’t think anyone has ever won any major cycling events clean since 1906. Most respectable riders from the past even admit to this and have no shame in admitting to doping because they know no one even the best cyclist in the world can win any of these long tours without pharmaceutical assistance. There is doping even today now with Tramadol being banned they moved on to using better tech for example to get them an advantage over times. To note Lemond had to be on a 53 X 11 and no wind to get his avg speed with 90 rpm, there is zero doubts on what he was on. There is nothing in organized sports that is not corrupted, the UCI covered up the doping tests from the early years of Lance Armstrongs TDF wins.
Most exciting tour ever!
I was a 15-year-old cyclist then. I saw each and every stage of this out-of-the-ordinary tour. What I loved was the caramaderie between LeMond and Hinault and at the same time the sporty rivalry. Hinault would fight to the very end, never conceding defeat. It truly was a battle of the titans. I heard that there was some tension between the two champions, but honestly had Hinault behaved differently, this tour wouldn't be as legendary as we know it is now.
After this time trial, Hinault admitted he couldn't win anymore and that was that. True to his word, not only was he a fantastic champion, but he also helped LeMond become one legend of his own. Then, the French admired LeMond because he had beaten Hinault; because of such a historic cycling show, they supported and loved them both. That's the way I felt anyway.
An epic tour with formidable champions. I can't thank them enough.
I have read LeMond rode Carbon bikes even then.
Some were carbon and some were steel. I own one of the steel bikes. It’s the one with the red,blue,yellow Mondrian paint job.
Was wondering why Hinault used a lo Pro while Lemond used a normal road bike???
Does anyone know what the music at 3:53 might be? Is it by John Tesh? Thanks.
Way to go buddy!
Mystical GREG
Wow, what a battle
Hero!
Via Lemondia
The ROCKY of cycling ....history,!!!
Greg still nice and fresh after all the work Bernie did for him in the mountains. ;)
You know, I wouldn't like to say anything about Greg Lemond, or Lance Armstrong. Apart from that they're in a very exclusive club of being the only ever American (U.S.A) born and bred winners of the Tour de France. I'd have to say though, for me Greg Lemond won it five times (even despite the embedded shot pellets), and Lance Armstrong eight times (even despite - (& maybe even in some way because of) his cancer ordeal and survival). So I put it at 13 for the good 'ole oosa (as fone/facejacker might/mightn't say). Not only that, but if time were ever bent enough, such that these two could work together, then I think it's pretty sure they could add a 14th between them. Maybe contrive to make the 14th some sort of cosmic draw? Horses for courses, racers for racetracks etc, and living legends for Tour de France Winners.
Armstrong never won the tour
Lance is not really an American.
"Greg Lemond won it five times" Where did you got that???
Bernard aurait dû gagner
C est tout
A Pau c était fini
Hinault is the real legend. He is on par with Merckx
the epo was working, available in medical trails, maybe to the 2 richest cyclists in the peleton could afford it. sorry, greg never injected anything, that's right, I forgot
There's no truth to that at all. Your words are just bitter and jaded lies.
@@santiagobenites or a realistic assesment of the reality of pro cycling. Lemond rode the fastest tt in tour history that day. Beaten only in 2015 by rohan denis with a full skin suits, aero modern tt bike, lighter bike etc. The current tt world champion. Lemonds tt screams if blood transfusion. Sorry dude how could this guy who swears he was clean his whole career could possibly be the only clean tour de france winner ever competing against a field of all dopers. Cmon your dreaming and hes lying
@@cypriano8763 The suddenly when the rest of the field, a full five years later, 'finally' discovers EPO, LeMond can't keep up and gets dropped? That makes absolutely zero sense. Why don't you show us some real evidence of Greg LeMond doping, discounting the stories that your cynical mind has created.
@@santiagobenites lemond most likely got dropper because all his competitors got on the epo train that he was already on. His comeback in 89 was epo in my opinion. It was available then you know. His vo2max took a 15 point jump, hmm i wonder how. From getting dropped in the mountains by sprinters in the giro to 2nd in the last tt when diagnosed with sports amemia. Cmon. You just cannot recover from that in a grand tour with iron shots. No way its medically impossible. The only way is to get a transfusion. Like lemond said there are no miracles in cycling. His first coach was eddy b( us cycling team 84 transfusions). Another coach van mol other doping coach. Third is francois belloc mr hormone rebalancing. Sure hes was never caught with a positive and swears he was clean. But doesnt that sound all too familiar. The proof is his vo2max score of 94.5: thats not natural especially considering it was 79 at the start of his career . the proof was always there you see, you just cant get a score like that natural. Plain and simple
@@santiagobenites what really bugs me with Lemond is his antidoping stance. Promoting this idea that " the clean" riders are getting cheated by " the dopers". He won clean do it's possible right, even if he was the only on ever, name another clean big name cyclist, hard to find right. My suspicion is he'slying, he was augmented like everyone else. It just doesn't add up you see, anyone who knows anything about cycling must have at the minimum serious doupts about lemonds Mr clean claims. Sure there's no proof. I will only believe he was clean if he comes up with a blood sample from stage 21 of the 89 tour and he passes a lie detector test