Greg LeMond really was (and is) a class act. All of 'murica should respect and honor his accomplishments and the difficult circumstances under which he did it.
He just got overshadowed by Armstrong.....and as Armstrong's story grew....LeMond became less of a narrative....but regardless, LeMond paid his dews and then some....and deserves to be remembered for his incredible talents....and that is why at www.imasportsphile.com we have posted this vintage video along with 2500 others from the same era....cuz these athletes deserve to be remembered in a world that is too soon to forget.
Very well put. The kids of today have been brought up to believe they themselves are born heroes by their helicopter parents. They have no idea of what it is to forge themselves into great champions of any kind. I applaud your efforts and I hope that LeMond will again rise in prominence. It's not really fair to compare Lance and Greg. Lance appears as a superman, but is ruthless and somewhat false. Greg is more like Superman as originally created, embodying the best of the American spirit and the qualities that made America strong and noble.
@@rociosuastegui4725 Lance Armstrong was nowhere before he started doping. And now he is nothing again. LeMond never did any doping. He and Eddy Merckx are still the best cycling ever offered
I remember watching this live on TV I was 10yrs old, man they knew how to produce a show back then. If they only had the camera technology we have nowadays. I miss the half hour - hour daily segments.
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Phil Liggett IS the English-speaking voice of The Tour. Listening to him while watching LeMond ride brings back fond memories of the 80's race. Add Bob Roll riding for Team 7-11, and the result is priceless. Thank you for posting. I enjoyed every minute.
Jesus... This video is awesome! It is so entertaining to watch! It is true show, made with such an attitude, which makes me buy steel road bike and go for a ride right now!
Thank you so much for posting. This got me into the sport and is still my fav . I have the audio recorded on cassettes I used to put in my Sony Walkman and ride to as a kid.
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John Tesh, the commentator, wrote and played the music which I treasure in my music collection. I like Jazz and most music influences. John is an influence in history and a fine musician. Hinault and Fignon and LeMond were major players in Cycling History.
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I met Greg the year before at his training camp. I went to this race and was there right at the end after right he got off his bike and he was being brought through the crowd. He was washed and looked in shock. He saw me for a second and had a look on his face like, 'I seen you before. what are you doing here?'. Exciting day.
thanks for the upload... my high school french teacher spoke about it but didn't watch it on tv at the time. 20yrs later, when I got a chance to ride alpe d'huez i was marveled by the beauty and history of the tour... switchbacks had historical posts.
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I love seeing true athletes and the struggles of the Tour. No perfect teeth. Sweat. Pain. Blood. Losing. Tears. Lack of strength. And winners. Yep, true competition is being viewed here!!! Thanks for the realistic upload. But I must say the music is nearly KILLING ME!!!! Geez, the 1:54-57 stuff is HORRIBLE!!! The end result: WOW!!!!! FABULOUS!!!!
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That image of Alex Stieda in the yellow jersey with his arms raised @ 27:59 was the front page image of "The Globe and Mail" Newspaper from Canada after he took over the race lead.
...and weird as well Lemond was so over Hinault The war is now on, that's official 2:06:12. It was a rebellion. + they were very different people didn't really like each other when it came to the crunch French and Americans are very different. Different culture, different mentality 2:14:22. Lemond knew this 2:21:17. + add to the mix a guy who it has been said is France's Lee Iacocca who then becomes cycling's George Steinbrenner master of the bike racing universe and you've got a pretty weird mix of people 2:20:34. No wonder there was tension 2:52:59.
It helps if you work in the quasi-socialist countries in Europe (most of them). They all get 4 to 6 weeks of vacation every year. Most take several weeks in summer and go on "Holiday" as they call it. It's a different system in Europe. The people don't work very hard and they really don't care if they give good service or not to the general public. They get paid regardless, and it's tough to fire people over there.
@@dwaynecoy1871 buddy, settle down. only an American would think 4-6 weeks vacation a year is an outrageous thing. Youve been programmed to think that, you just accept billionaires buying their 5th yacht, or trying to fly to space, or funding politicians campaigns. Wake the fuck up - A Canadian.
@@dwaynecoy1871the amount of wealth the capitalism has created should mean that no person should be hungry but human nature has shown that greed outweighs empathy. and if you havent realized the people who rise to the top in this system are sociopaths like Bezos, gates, Steve jobs. Cause theyre all brilliant but they dont have any morality, that is the perfect combo and it has shown with the success of their companies. if you want an example, those 3 people will fire 50 people on christmas eve and fall asleep as soon as their head hits the pillow.
@@mjj789 - yikes, demonstrating a severe case of class envy not rivaled by many. I don't need to settle down as I was simply pointing out the situation in Europe as I experienced it. I made no statements or used any adverbs to imply 4 to 6 weeks vacation time is outrageous. Back to your class envy disorder. Why would I care if a Billionaire wants to spend his own money any way he wants? It has absolutely no impact on my life and the things I want to accomplish. Are you jealous of just those high profile success stories (Gates, Bezos, etc) or are you obsessed with anyone that has more money and a better paying job than you? I realize that this concept is tough to understand for a marxist like yourself, but capitalism isn't a zero-sum game. Under capitalism, your ability to earn more and be more successful is not hampered by some Billionaires spending habits. BTW, nobody is "hungry" in the US, at least not in the long run. Sure, there will always be cases of people struggling to make ends meet. But lack of food is not their biggest problem. When has anyone starved to death in the US because they couldn't find anything to eat? In fact, the much bigger problem is the staggering amount of obese people in the country and the strain they put on our health care system brought on by the numerous ailments and disease that falls on the morbidly obese.
Of course he was! I’m European but I must say that Greg Lemond was much stronger than Hinault in 1985 and 1986. He won in 1986 even tough most of his team was working against him. He’s one of the best cyclist of all time. And he was a really great guy!
Hess Alain yes if LeMond didn't get stabbed in the back in 85 and then shot in the back in 87 he could have won six, maybe maybe maybe 7 but his 3x are very very real and damn impressive
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Whoever owns the copyrights on some of these early 'Lemond' Tours really should remaster them and sell them online. They'd make a fortune. The 240 scan line standard is horrible and it seems like the recording is filtered through a VHS tape and a bad analog broadcast tuner.
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Basically, what you need to do is test your transfer system and test codecs for the analog to digital conversion. Find one video section that your team likes and run QA and view feedback testing. Once you develop a standard you then port all of your masters through that standard protocol. The hardware can be a problem but so can the codecs that you use in the middle. You don't have to spend a fortune to get good results, you just have to figure out where the weak links are. Get the quality first and then worry about size. Once the quality is satisfactory it should not be difficult to get the sizes down. So I'd suggest optimizing video quality based on viewer (even your own internal viewers) first and then once you have that down you can make sure your compression schemes preserve that level because today this is not difficult to create efficient files from high quality video. Do the transfer in stages and (as i said, get the quality optimized first, not worrying about file size at that stage, and then test for file optimization protocols/codecs once you have a quality target to maintain). Screen the tapes through a good Betamax system so that you know what to expect. Then do a "max quality" transfer on your analog to digital machines to see what the capability is there. If that looks good then you need to look around for better file optimization codecs. Dividing the quality check process will help you identify weak links in the production chain between your source tapes and how they play on RUclips. It's possible that the original tapes are deteriorating and then cleaning up would be very expensive. But it's also possible that your production chain has a weak area that can be tuned or replaced for free or low cost. I haven't done an analog to digital transfer in many years so I don't know what hardware to suggest. But first do some critical testing to see if you can identify weak stages. I could be jaded at this point but it looks like your transfer might be feeding an RF/analog TV tuner. That would definitely be a weak link as it would probably be running about 240 scan lines even if your hardware is set to capture 480P. If you have the original Betamax (or even a professionally made "final production cut") you should be able to get something that looks like the original 480P DVD standard if you have no problems with the tapes.
The 1985 broadcast is probably the best. We get Phil Anderson and so forth. 1987 was also awesome. 1986 was 'great' too but the network coverage was a little weak. They were a little too anxious to see Lemond 'getting revenge' for 1985.
The drop out rate for this rate is what I would expect, ~40%. It's amazing how strong these riders are. I participated in a 200 mile race when I was a kid. 100 miles per day on relatively flat ground even. I got sooo tired during the last 40 miles of it. I just really didn't have anything left in the tank. It's amazing they can ride like that.
@@andrewsandoz8005 The drop out rate for this Tour was about 40%: Go to index 2:55:10 and listen to it firsthand from John Tesh. And you should be nicer to David P. ... "amateur at best" you say ... Phuh. 100 miles is a long distance to ride a bike, regardless of skill level, understand?
LeMound gave us the greats 2 tours of all time 1986's epic battle with Hinault and Fignon in 1989 . With his accident in 87 we will never Know how things could have been in 87 when Roche won or Delgado. Or what may have been if Fignon had not had that horrific injury in 85. But it was his former Team mates that gave us two of the greats TDF's in History, and I think LeMound was a clean rider at a time when true talent could still win a Tour unlike everything that followed from the 90's forwards.
Yo siempre lo digo y soy español y fan de delgado sin el accidente lemond los gana todos hasta el de 1990 un lemond disminuido fue capaz aun de ganar los de 1989 y 1990 sin ese accidente los gana de calle el nivel que tenia era brutal y era en 1986 el atleta que tenia el vo2 maximo de todo el mundo un gran campeon de forma natural no como lance armstrong que se dopaba para ganar por que no sopostaba ser un perdedor saludos
Someone knows where I can find the music? I have looked up "John Tesh Tour" in RUclips but there is no much. I WANT ALL THE TUNES. It's a pity that the audio is too loud and the quality is too low because the music is very good and cathy and fits well the docu. I hope someone an help me finding the music.
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1985’s TDF was also Lemond’s to win but was held back to assist the fading star Hinault. And then Hinault tried to stab LeMond in the back in 1986. Oh but Victory....the sweetest revenge!!!
Back in those times only a few had access to high end bikes, cycling coaches and doctors specifically for cyclists. In 2019 I am seeing independents winning local events because everyone has access to everything now and the field is leveling out, the advantages of the past are gone.
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28:44.... "United States can be contenders in this race now and in the future".... Cut 2, Alex Stieda praising his home country of Canada.... lol..... P.S. Yes, I realize 7-Eleven was an American based team and the only reason Alex had the jersey in the first place is because his teammates were blocking for him, so save the reply.... I just thought this particular scene was amusing.
Why is the lips on Andy Hampsten so big and thick 17:14 compared to later pictures in his career? Especially the upper lip? I tried to google different pictures of him, and his upper lip seems much smaller years later. Why? Human growth hormone was coming into sports in the early 1980 and could improve athletic performance, burn fat and improve stamina. Their was drug test for HGM back then. HGM had one side effect in the feets, head and lips getting bigger and thicker. Just look at Jan Ullrich in the time trail TDF 2003. Perhaps there is another explanation to Andy Hampsten´s bigger lips?
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Human growth hormone? Andy at 20 5'9" 132 lbs. Andy at 50 5'9" 140 lbs. It's called human growth hormone for a reason...he didn't grow. Still skinny. Barry Bonds took HGH and gained 60 lbs.
Personally Hinault shouldn't have told/promised LeMond that he'd help him in 86...Hinault went back on his word...soo LeMond beat his Ass...It was a well deserved Win for LeMond...As in 1985 Hinault was Dropping the ball...Roche Attacked...Hinault couldn't go with...LeMond could...LeMond was told not to Defeat his team leader even tho he was Stronger than Hinault...French Race...French Favorite Cyclist...this is what beat LeMond ...If LeMond didn't go with Roche...Roche could have Won his first Tuor de France...his TT isn't that far off of Hinault and LeMond....so had he gotten that time...We'll Never Kno...Why Open Your Race To The World!!!...If You Only Want "YOUR"...Cyclists to Win?!?!?!... 👊🏾
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I was 24 in '86. Now I look at those riders thinking that I might have been one of them, if I only had kicked in the ass my girlfriend of the time... I was too young to think that the world has always been full of women. What a big mistake I did: "Whaaat? You love bike more than me? Uh, image what a fun it'll give you in bed!" How naive I was! I didn't get along with her too long and I also lost what I loved the most at that age: cycling. Am I allowed dreaming? God only knows for sure, but I could have been a new Merckx. (Axel, I mean, not Eddy!!!)
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i was interested in a bike race, not a john tesh concert. like when i go to a jazz concert i don't like it when they lower the music volume so they can narrate a bicycle race over it.
what is your point, that it's the only footage that was available to you as it is? not watching the event is an alternative. there is other footage of this event without the music being overly loud. look at this footage and you will hear the original production was much more reasonable. ruclips.net/video/ePgcSP7G0K0/видео.html
When Greg made the cover of Sports Illustrated in 1989 many "sportswriters" showed their ignorance by ridiculing Greg, saying that riding a bike is not the mark of an athlete.
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cycling is about self expression, not trying to hold others back, that's what Hinault found out ? that's why its called the race of truth not the race of cheater's...
If you watched it in the 80’s you wouldn’t think that. I can see if you just stumble on it now why you would. But for people who watched it then we appreciate it for what it is.
I hate that John Tesh techno/New Age synthesized garbage muzak, probably even more than I hated 80s American TV coverage of the Tour...which was equally crappy.
God, I know! I would watch the european feed of the tour and it was just straight sports coverage, but all this pseudo melodrama in the American coverage was pathetic.
American coverage is just dreadful. More annoying adverts and irrelevant crap than actual riding. The constant whining of Lemond was a distraction also.
80's Tour coverage was by far the best. And John did the soundtrack
Greg LeMond really was (and is) a class act. All of 'murica should respect and honor his accomplishments and the difficult circumstances under which he did it.
He just got overshadowed by Armstrong.....and as Armstrong's story grew....LeMond became less of a narrative....but regardless, LeMond paid his dews and then some....and deserves to be remembered for his incredible talents....and that is why at www.imasportsphile.com we have posted this vintage video along with 2500 others from the same era....cuz these athletes deserve to be remembered in a world that is too soon to forget.
Very well put. The kids of today have been brought up to believe they themselves are born heroes by their helicopter parents. They have no idea of what it is to forge themselves into great champions of any kind. I applaud your efforts and I hope that LeMond will again rise in prominence. It's not really fair to compare Lance and Greg. Lance appears as a superman, but is ruthless and somewhat false. Greg is more like Superman as originally created, embodying the best of the American spirit and the qualities that made America strong and noble.
nightowl8936 Greg Lemond is better than an American hero: he’s one of the best cyclist of all time, a legend!
@@rociosuastegui4725 Lance Armstrong was nowhere before he started doping. And now he is nothing again. LeMond never did any doping. He and Eddy Merckx are still the best cycling ever offered
@@DaleRC75 Forgive a non-native user of English, please. I believe he meant "dues."
cannot get enough from this coverage and its SOUNDS & SONGS
My favorite era of cycling
Best ever decade period1000%
I remember watching this live on TV I was 10yrs old, man they knew how to produce a show back then. If they only had the camera technology we have nowadays. I miss the half hour - hour daily segments.
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Phil Liggett IS the English-speaking voice of The Tour. Listening to him while watching LeMond ride brings back fond memories of the 80's race. Add Bob Roll riding for Team 7-11, and the result is priceless. Thank you for posting. I enjoyed every minute.
My right ear loved it
Lol....so accurate !!
Jesus... This video is awesome! It is so entertaining to watch! It is true show, made with such an attitude, which makes me buy steel road bike and go for a ride right now!
Thank you so much for posting. This got me into the sport and is still my fav . I have the audio recorded on cassettes I used to put in my Sony Walkman and ride to as a kid.
Just awesome. TV coverage soooo different from today but this video was a trip! Very entertaining. Thanks for posting it
What a time capsule! Thanks for posting.
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Man, can't beat John Tesh's powerful storytelling, the synth heavy muzak, and the greatest cyclists in history all in one race, one era....WOW
Great to see this again after so many years. And yes the music is awesome! Go John Tesch.
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John Tesh, the commentator, wrote and played the music which I treasure in my music collection. I like Jazz and most music influences. John is an influence in history and a fine musician. Hinault and Fignon and LeMond were major players in Cycling History.
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music was too loud.
I remember. it was on cbs. classic
You are joking. The music is TERRIBLE and spoils the foitage. Shame.
I met Greg the year before at his training camp. I went to this race and was there right at the end after right he got off his bike and he was being brought through the crowd. He was washed and looked in shock. He saw me for a second and had a look on his face like, 'I seen you before. what are you doing here?'. Exciting day.
Thank you again for your support!
32:55 Bob Roll riding the tour! This is gold!
What a great post! Thank you for all the effort that went into putting this together.
thanks for the upload... my high school french teacher spoke about it but didn't watch it on tv at the time. 20yrs later, when I got a chance to ride alpe d'huez i was marveled by the beauty and history of the tour... switchbacks had historical posts.
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PS....getting to ride alpe d'huez is an awesome feat and memory....so you will definitely enjoy the other cycling videos that we have already posted at imasportsphile.com/category/other sports/ and imasportsphile.com/category/olympics/
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Such a pity about his hunting accident. We never saw the absolute best of what Greg Lemond was physiologically capable of.
4:45 WHOA a young Phil Liggett! Awesome.
Hinault and Lemond Time Trial steam rollers, total class acts on the bike.
Nice video upload - these are from my original DVD's from 15+ years ago.
I love seeing true athletes and the struggles of the Tour. No perfect teeth. Sweat. Pain. Blood. Losing. Tears. Lack of strength. And winners. Yep, true competition is being viewed here!!! Thanks for the realistic upload. But I must say the music is nearly KILLING ME!!!! Geez, the 1:54-57 stuff is HORRIBLE!!! The end result: WOW!!!!! FABULOUS!!!!
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That image of Alex Stieda in the yellow jersey with his arms raised @ 27:59 was the front page image of "The Globe and Mail" Newspaper from Canada after he took over the race lead.
Hinault, LeMond, and Hampsten on same team in mid 80s? Pretty sick.
Don’t forget about Bauer! A super cycling team for sure!
@@waynesworld1655 My lord, youre right. A lot of respect for Bauer, he was a hell of a competitor.
Good call.
...and weird as well
Lemond was so over Hinault
The war is now on, that's official 2:06:12.
It was a rebellion.
+ they were very different people didn't really like each other when it came to the crunch
French and Americans are very different. Different culture, different mentality 2:14:22.
Lemond knew this 2:21:17.
+ add to the mix a guy who it has been said is France's Lee Iacocca who then becomes cycling's George Steinbrenner master of the bike racing universe and you've got a pretty weird mix of people 2:20:34.
No wonder there was tension 2:52:59.
1:13:20 OMG “free LASER MUSCLE TREATMENTS” 🤣🤣🤣. Dear 80’s, you’re the best! 😂😂😂
Reply to my own comment: looked it up, wow it seems to be legit. 80’s you’re still the best 😂👍
You have no idea 😿😿😿😿
1:14:49 system u attack!
Absolute legend.
Brings back memories.
the 85' tour should have been Greg's first tour victory
I’d love to be able to vacation in France for an month while the TDF was going on.
It helps if you work in the quasi-socialist countries in Europe (most of them). They all get 4 to 6 weeks of vacation every year. Most take several weeks in summer and go on "Holiday" as they call it. It's a different system in Europe. The people don't work very hard and they really don't care if they give good service or not to the general public. They get paid regardless, and it's tough to fire people over there.
@@dwaynecoy1871 buddy, settle down. only an American would think 4-6 weeks vacation a year is an outrageous thing. Youve been programmed to think that, you just accept billionaires buying their 5th yacht, or trying to fly to space, or funding politicians campaigns. Wake the fuck up - A Canadian.
@@dwaynecoy1871the amount of wealth the capitalism has created should mean that no person should be hungry but human nature has shown that greed outweighs empathy. and if you havent realized the people who rise to the top in this system are sociopaths like Bezos, gates, Steve jobs. Cause theyre all brilliant but they dont have any morality, that is the perfect combo and it has shown with the success of their companies. if you want an example, those 3 people will fire 50 people on christmas eve and fall asleep as soon as their head hits the pillow.
@@mjj789 - yikes, demonstrating a severe case of class envy not rivaled by many. I don't need to settle down as I was simply pointing out the situation in Europe as I experienced it. I made no statements or used any adverbs to imply 4 to 6 weeks vacation time is outrageous. Back to your class envy disorder. Why would I care if a Billionaire wants to spend his own money any way he wants? It has absolutely no impact on my life and the things I want to accomplish. Are you jealous of just those high profile success stories (Gates, Bezos, etc) or are you obsessed with anyone that has more money and a better paying job than you? I realize that this concept is tough to understand for a marxist like yourself, but capitalism isn't a zero-sum game. Under capitalism, your ability to earn more and be more successful is not hampered by some Billionaires spending habits. BTW, nobody is "hungry" in the US, at least not in the long run. Sure, there will always be cases of people struggling to make ends meet. But lack of food is not their biggest problem. When has anyone starved to death in the US because they couldn't find anything to eat? In fact, the much bigger problem is the staggering amount of obese people in the country and the strain they put on our health care system brought on by the numerous ailments and disease that falls on the morbidly obese.
1986 was not an upset. Greg was the strongest then just like he was the strongest in 1985.
Of course he was! I’m European but I must say that Greg Lemond was much stronger than Hinault in 1985 and 1986. He won in 1986 even tough most of his team was working against him. He’s one of the best cyclist of all time. And he was a really great guy!
Hess Alain yes if LeMond didn't get stabbed in the back in 85 and then shot in the back in 87 he could have won six, maybe maybe maybe 7 but his 3x are very very real and damn impressive
now that is what I call music
what a great finish and good job Craig and the badger :)
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Whoever owns the copyrights on some of these early 'Lemond' Tours really should remaster them and sell them online. They'd make a fortune. The 240 scan line standard is horrible and it seems like the recording is filtered through a VHS tape and a bad analog broadcast tuner.
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I could be jaded at this point but it looks like your transfer might be feeding an RF/analog TV tuner. That would definitely be a weak link as it would probably be running about 240 scan lines even if your hardware is set to capture 480P. If you have the original Betamax (or even a professionally made "final production cut") you should be able to get something that looks like the original 480P DVD standard if you have no problems with the tapes.
@@indonesiaamerica7050 ImaS. should hire you to do the job.
Greg numero uno per sempre
The 1985 broadcast is probably the best. We get Phil Anderson and so forth. 1987 was also awesome. 1986 was 'great' too but the network coverage was a little weak. They were a little too anxious to see Lemond 'getting revenge' for 1985.
I've started watching the Tour right about this time. The music still makes me want to hurt myself.
The drop out rate for this rate is what I would expect, ~40%. It's amazing how strong these riders are. I participated in a 200 mile race when I was a kid. 100 miles per day on relatively flat ground even. I got sooo tired during the last 40 miles of it. I just really didn't have anything left in the tank. It's amazing they can ride like that.
Drop out rate not 40%. You're an amateur at best. These are elite professionals at their best. No comparison.
@@andrewsandoz8005 The drop out rate for this Tour was about 40%: Go to index 2:55:10 and listen to it firsthand from John Tesh.
And you should be nicer to David P. ... "amateur at best" you say ... Phuh. 100 miles is a long distance to ride a bike, regardless of skill level, understand?
Greg Lemmon forever and ever since Ipiales Nariño Colombia América Latina 😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉🎉
LeMound gave us the greats 2 tours of all time 1986's epic battle with Hinault and Fignon in 1989 . With his accident in 87 we will never Know how things could have been in 87 when Roche won or Delgado. Or what may have been if Fignon had not had that horrific injury in 85. But it was his former Team mates that gave us two of the greats TDF's in History, and I think LeMound was a clean rider at a time when true talent could still win a Tour unlike everything that followed from the 90's forwards.
Yo siempre lo digo y soy español y fan de delgado sin el accidente lemond los gana todos hasta el de 1990 un lemond disminuido fue capaz aun de ganar los de 1989 y 1990 sin ese accidente los gana de calle el nivel que tenia era brutal y era en 1986 el atleta que tenia el vo2 maximo de todo el mundo un gran campeon de forma natural no como lance armstrong que se dopaba para ganar por que no sopostaba ser un perdedor saludos
If it wasn't for the '85 drama and the shotgun incident Greg would have won 5 or 6 yellow jerseys in a row
Someone knows where I can find the music? I have looked up "John Tesh Tour" in RUclips but there is no much. I WANT ALL THE TUNES. It's a pity that the audio is too loud and the quality is too low because the music is very good and cathy and fits well the docu. I hope someone an help me finding the music.
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1985’s TDF was also Lemond’s to win but was held back to assist the fading star Hinault.
And then Hinault tried to stab LeMond in the back in 1986.
Oh but Victory....the sweetest revenge!!!
Back in those times only a few had access to high end bikes, cycling coaches and doctors specifically for cyclists. In 2019 I am seeing independents winning local events because everyone has access to everything now and the field is leveling out, the advantages of the past are gone.
How did I get here I just woke up and I was on this vid. Help
Alex Stieda ahead of his time 26:32 riding in his aero time trial suit.
But it was in a road race. 7-Eleven was the only team that did it, and they caught grief from everyone else.
50:55 classic scene of The Badger tired and pissed off.
51:22 one of my favourite scenes of 80s Tour coverage.
2:14:46 The Badger combs his hair.
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why did cafe de colombia use standard bikes?
Greg was too nice at the Alp d'huez. He should have put out a marker and decimated Hinault to finish top for the stage win
He might not of been feeling well though because of illness 2:16:03 🧻
Or Tapie said let Hinault win this one or else 2:19:39 👀
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Helmets?...We don’t need no stinking helmets!!
I am sure I once heard this here with stereo sound -- or is it me ?
Upset? Lemond was ordered to “slow down” in 1985 so I don’t see how it’s an upset.
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Interesting.
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Anyone know the title of this opening music?
Found it..."Tour Theme"
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best tour of all time IMO..... 1989 was the runner up.
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I wish you would have equalized the high pitch squealing sound out of this before uploading lol
9:42...No one, at any time, who knew cycling should have ever compared Bernar Hinault.
2:27:13
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Funny how 31 was considered over the hill in 1986
Hinault looks a lot heavier than Lemond, so watts per kg Lemond was probably a lot better. Once they hit the hills that really matters.
We almost got to hear Sammy Davis junior's opinion.
6:25 Indurain ?
Greg deserves 6 tdfs
28:44.... "United States can be contenders in this race now and in the future".... Cut 2, Alex Stieda praising his home country of Canada.... lol..... P.S. Yes, I realize 7-Eleven was an American based team and the only reason Alex had the jersey in the first place is because his teammates were blocking for him, so save the reply.... I just thought this particular scene was amusing.
@@andrewsandoz8005 Did you not read the last post script in my comment?
He could have pulled off the upset a year sooner. He held back so Hinault could get his 5th. Well, and it was his job.
No Aero bars in 1986 i guess. They couldn't get in the low aero position.
The history of the Tour would amaze you, in fact the history of the bicycle would amaze you!
The commentary sounds constapated at the start lol
Why is the lips on Andy Hampsten so big and thick 17:14 compared to later pictures in his career? Especially the upper lip? I tried to google different pictures of him, and his upper lip seems much smaller years later. Why? Human growth hormone was coming into sports in the early 1980 and could improve athletic performance, burn fat and improve stamina. Their was drug test for HGM back then. HGM had one side effect in the feets, head and lips getting bigger and thicker. Just look at Jan Ullrich in the time trail TDF 2003. Perhaps there is another explanation to Andy Hampsten´s bigger lips?
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he got braces... doping doesn't fix your teeth & grow your hair.
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starblazers01 Right? Pretty easy to figure out. Geeky kid on a bike wins the Giro - signs a big contract and gets his teeth fixed. Not rocket science.
Human growth hormone? Andy at 20 5'9" 132 lbs. Andy at 50 5'9" 140 lbs. It's called human growth hormone for a reason...he didn't grow. Still skinny. Barry Bonds took HGH and gained 60 lbs.
Personally Hinault shouldn't have told/promised LeMond that he'd help him in 86...Hinault went back on his word...soo LeMond beat his Ass...It was a well deserved Win for LeMond...As in 1985 Hinault was Dropping the ball...Roche Attacked...Hinault couldn't go with...LeMond could...LeMond was told not to Defeat his team leader even tho he was Stronger than Hinault...French Race...French Favorite Cyclist...this is what beat LeMond ...If LeMond didn't go with Roche...Roche could have Won his first Tuor de France...his TT isn't that far off of Hinault and LeMond....so had he gotten that time...We'll Never Kno...Why Open Your Race To The World!!!...If You Only Want "YOUR"...Cyclists to Win?!?!?!... 👊🏾
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My favorite doper
This is 1986, not 1988
Yes definitely 1986
No 1 said it was 1988
I was 24 in '86. Now I look at those riders thinking that I might have been one of them, if I only had kicked in the ass my girlfriend of the time... I was too young to think that the world has always been full of women. What a big mistake I did: "Whaaat? You love bike more than me? Uh, image what a fun it'll give you in bed!" How naive I was! I didn't get along with her too long and I also lost what I loved the most at that age: cycling. Am I allowed dreaming? God only knows for sure, but I could have been a new Merckx. (Axel, I mean, not Eddy!!!)
The music is epic 😂😂😂
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Hamston before his mouth surgery that boy had some teeth
i was interested in a bike race, not a john tesh concert. like when i go to a jazz concert i don't like it when they lower the music volume so they can narrate a bicycle race over it.
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When Greg made the cover of Sports Illustrated in 1989 many "sportswriters" showed their ignorance by ridiculing Greg, saying that riding a bike is not the mark of an athlete.
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1:14:26 a mini Fignon wtf ?
Spell check. Tour De France. Not Tour Du France...come on guy's? Are the WWll references really nessessary? Kind of an American thing.
cycling is about self expression, not trying to hold others back, that's what Hinault found out ? that's why its called the race of truth not the race of cheater's...
Great coverage and, documentary on the tour... but kill that music please!
Shocking American coverage, more repetitive drivel and adverts than wheel to wheel action.
Why is it there is no helmet?? Its too dangerous....
You should learn the history of bicycle racing it would surprise you how it has evolved over the years like many things.
because pros didn't have to wear helmets
The music makes it unwatchable.
If you watched it in the 80’s you wouldn’t think that. I can see if you just stumble on it now why you would. But for people who watched it then we appreciate it for what it is.
@@MrCycledad totally agreed, the music added to the epicness.
Cheat
What a terrible video coupled with poor audio quality!
Feel free to break out your own 4K videos from 34 years ago.
I hate that John Tesh techno/New Age synthesized garbage muzak, probably even more than I hated 80s American TV coverage of the Tour...which was equally crappy.
God, I know! I would watch the european feed of the tour and it was just straight sports coverage, but all this pseudo melodrama in the American coverage was pathetic.
American coverage is just dreadful. More annoying adverts and irrelevant crap than actual riding. The constant whining of Lemond was a distraction also.
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