Great video! I've heard of doing this before, but no one ever goes over the details or they have a friend of a friend that did it. Priceless info bro.thanks for breaking it down so clearly.
Kart nerds absolutely, I found the same thing so I wanted to go through it and document it all so people could actually use the information. Thanks for the good feedback and confirming I got it squared away.
I did this process last summer with my '90 Suzuki RMX-250. A few things to note: - If your bike happens to not have an odometer equipped... Don't sweat it. Just put "No odometer" under the mileage :) - Tax is based on the "Fair" value, not the "Good" value. Win! I did this by mail. In fact, I did not even send them the odometer disclosure form. Just the reg form, and the bill of sale. I will be soon transferring this reg to RI, where there is no title or VIN check requirement on any vehicle over 20 years old.
@@d21dusty72 No title at all. The bike is old enough to not require one. They just look up the VIN at the DMV. So you will need the VIN and a "bill of sale" (just have your friend make one up lol)
I just sent my info into DMV. You explained everything perfectly. Seeing what I needed to do was so much easier. Visual demo is worth it's weight in gold. Thank you so much. The only thing I couldn't find was a scooter code. But we'll see. ;-)
I’m also in Virginia and just purchased an untitled bike from North Carolina. Your video was very well done and explained some of the details I was missing. Great job, thanks again for sharing this important info!
Niceeee!!!! I followed you instructions to register a UTV I bought and I just got the letter back with the actual tag and the paper work, your are the man. Just be a aware it may take longer than what it took for you because of the COVID, I sent my paperwork two and a half months ago I had actually lost hope on it and just today boom!!! got everything on the mail.
@@HaslipCycleWorks how do I apply for the forms I clicked on your link doesn’t show how or where to apply just tells you the information on what you need also I have a 2004 Zx6r 600cc sport bike no title clean vin would it still work if it’s a 600cc or I’m shit out of luck and have to swap the frame
@@jaymarleno8958 it will still work since it’s over 10 years old. The link should take you to the form section. You will have to print the pdf files and fill them out.
SO you don't have to be a Vermont resident to register a bike in their state? wtf lol they not asking why a resident of Alaska wants to register and title his bike in Vermont state?
Sir this is gold, I just bought a 2004 bike in Delaware from a dealership and the guy is giving me excuses, 3 weeks now since I bought it and nothing in my mail. So, at this point I´m assuming NO TITLE, obviously VIN is clear. I´ll start my process through the Vermont route following all your steps and expertise. I´ll keep you posted. PS I'm PA based.
Thank you very much work for me came in two weeks now I have my plate and my registration next Friday I’m going to go try to see if I can get my title thank you again from New York
@@biocleanerlife4657 i been slacking lmao. I want to get the bike to fire up before chasing a title. I ordered a ignition online and its just popping fuses. I sent it back and got a new ignition. Fingers crossed. I saved the video to post and update.
I got me a 1972 Honda CB 750 with 5000 miles on it from an online estate auction for only $126 the only problem is no title and this video just made my day 🤗
@@garrettlee2448 then you should have no problem going to the process and not having to worry about the vin inspection. Then it’s just a matter of if your home state has any weird requirements to transfer the VT stuff to your state.
Ok, just checked and as of 11/1/2020 "VIN Verification - Waived for vehicles with out of state titles" straight from their website. Also regarding electric vehicles - from what I have read you disregard the CC's and cylinders section and simply check the electric box under engine type. If anyone completes the process for an electric please leave a comment and let us all know how it went.
@Haslip Cycle Works UPDATE: Minnesota doesn't accept Vermont registration card as "title" for vehicles older than 15 years. After several back and forth with Minnesota state DMV they wont accept anything less than a title for vehicles older than 15 years. oh well, so i ended up throwing away the motorcycle. I hope this helps any local Minnesota residents the potential headache.
Getting a lot of the same question here in the comments "Do I need a VIN Verification?" Well if your bike is over 10 years old OR under 300cc then the answer is NO you do not need a VIN verification. Hope this clears it up for some of you guys. Any other questions hit me up, I'll try my best to answer them.
Got my plates and registration today it was a 1983 honda 1100c motorcycle and I didnt use a vin verification and it took about 3 weeks maybe a lil more i dont remember the exact date i sent it out hope this info helps other people.
Just in case anyone is trying to do this during covid, I live in Virginia and got my letter back in 4 weeks. I thought it would take longer but apparently not, thanks for the vid man!
So I took all my Vermont information to the VA Dmv and after a while they told me my bike has to be older then 10 years and less then 300cc, since mine is a 1000 they wouldn't give me a title. Have you heard anything about trying it on larger bikes?
@@bronzeman1853 if you have to ask for a supervisor. Otherwise by their logic nothing over 300cc or under 10 years can be transferred from VT to VA and that’s bs.
*update* so they won't list this on the paperwork or the website but after waiting from July 17th to August 28th I get a rejection letter stating "the minimum taxable value of all motorcycles is $500." Even though NADA on my 96 RM 125 is $212. Just put the letter and new money order back in the post. Starting the 2 month clock again.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Just got my plates, thanks a ton for this vid. Will 100% credit this vid when recording my dual sport kit instructions. Thanks a ton for your hard work on this.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Well good thing I didn't decide to haul out on the Rm125 tonight, realized I just got the plate alone and am still waiting on my sticker to put on the plate. I think Vermont has a sense of Humor.
good information , you think in life you wouldn’t ever get in that situation but it does happen in my life 2 times on motorcycles one on a Antique car that my Dad purchased legally in 1958 but never titled or registered that car as it was in storage and Restoration for 40 years
For anyone watching post 2023 where it supposedly doesn’t work, it does work BUT you need to show proof of residency. My family has a place there so from NY I sent in all these papers with a water electric and gas bill with my last name attached and it was no problem. You will need residency tho
@@HaslipCycleWorks thanks for the video! Just an update for anyone else that does this... vermont is taking 4-6 weeks longer than normal to process everything
Will your insurance keep covering even though the reg is in a different state? Thinking about it but I'm also scared MA RMV will give me shit since that's why I'm here in the first place
@@lisabright2631 once you get the registration, you go to DMV for your state and re register it. My Allstate had no title ( the previous owner lost it). I used a service in Arizona that got me a Massachusetts title. Then I went to my local DMV ( back then I lived in New Jersey), got the forms necessary forms for transfer, and submitted them along with the application fee. The whole thing wasn't really bad, just the serial number tracing ( was on the bottom of the frame) was the hardest part.
I was wondering if anyone from Louisiana has had the same luck with this process. I bought a 50cc Honda scooter from 1987 and I would like to try this method out, however the DMV regulations in my state can be a bit confusing and ridiculous. Does anyone happen to know if this will indeed work in Louisiana. I get so frustrated sometimes dealing with DMV's here because they would ask you to register and title your toothbrush if it has a motor on it if they could.
Update: I received my new Vermont plate and validated application back in the mail (3 weeks on the dot). I’m going to walk in to my DMV and explain the older than 10 years under 300cc thing and see how it goes. If not I’ll try a titling service. If that doesn’t work then I’ll take my chances on the road honestly. (Will be back with the results)
Update : everything worked except that I needed to have it inspected by the state police. It didn’t cost me anything and I took the inspection paper and my Vermont info in and got it all road legal in my home state of LA
Sorry if this has been answered, but the "Vermont Registration Tax &Title Application" form on the VT website has 2 duplicate pages. Are both copies supposed to be mailed in, or is the second copy just for the owner's records? This is a great video, and you explained the process very well--Thank you!
Very helpful video but I still have a question when you send the papers to The department of transportation of Vermont you have to send a foto/copy of your license ?
So I sent my Vermont bill of sale and odometer disclosure as well as my registration application and a print off of the nada value along with my money order as of February 15th, 2022. I’m from North Carolina, I’ll update as soon as something happens and see if they cashed the money order!! The bike is over 15 years old so I guess I don’t need a vin verification. *UPDATE* I checked my money order, it was cashed February 28th, now I will wait about 2 weeks and see if I get something! As of now I got my plate and form they send back with approval stamp, I’m still waiting for the sticker and registration card, I have no idea when you expect it but I’d like to know around when that should come as I’ve got my plate a week ago
Im doing this right now, but I'm having a service do it for me. I live in Maryland and the DMV here is hell to deal with. The title of my bike has a typo on the VIN so the DMV didn't want to help me out until I get the title typo corrected. Literally, the VIN on the title was missing 1 digit. I got the bike's VIN checked out by a Maryland state trooper and the VIN is clean. Issue was just getting a hold of the seller and then the previous owner since the guy didn't register !! Once my plates come in I plan on keeping it registered in VT, I'll pay the $40 yearly fee for a new sticker. I'm not dealing with getting it inspected and possibly having to shell out $$ for that too
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah I can. But, it'll still require me to get the bike inspected at a shop. Im avoiding that cause that's just another cash grab for shops to make you fix stuff there. Im perfectly fine having VT plates. And honestly, I've ridden this bike around since the summer and haven't gotten pulled over.
Hey, I filled out the application and mailed it out. I later received a new plate and registration for the bike, which is great. However, I didn't receive an actual title for the motorcycle, and instead received my title application back that was just stamped as validated. Did you receive an actual title in the mail as well, or did you receive your application back , like I did? Thanks! :D
Same as you. You now take all of that to your local dmv and transfer it to your state. Remind them that Vermont doesn’t issue a title for vehicles over 10 years old or under 300cc. They should take it all and have you fill out a form or two and the will print you a title, registration and give you a plate and stickers
I have a kicker 5150 bike also... need to find a motor to put on it so I know what size to title it as... also have a 1979 kawasaki 750 project to title... thank you for the instruction
Hey, great video! I know you mentioned year/age of the bike and engine size. Would this process still apply for a 1972 Honda CL100? I think it technically classifies as a vintage bike and the engine size is quite small. Thanks!
@@kevinkev1530 just had my paper work returned to me. There was a step skipped in the video. The bottom of the "application form" section 8, has to be signed and dated
Hey man! I used this loophole to acquire a plate and registration for my 1995 fireblade about 2 months ago, however I haven't tried to transfer it to an Ohio title as I've heard ohio is rather strict. I'm seeing online that vermont closed the loophole, but does that mean I can't get the title transferred? Or I just can't register anything new in Vermont? Basically i'm trying to figure out whether its impossible to get my title transferred, or whether it would be easier since the loophole is closed and people won't be using it for theft. Sorry for long question, thanks!
No worries. Now that the loophole is closed you just won’t be able to apply for anything out of state for Vermont. Anything you already have is valid. I would check with your local dmv to see what you need to complete the transfer.
Howdy I’m from New Mexico and recently bought a 2007 Yamaha R6 with no paperwork whatsoever. I’m confused on the Vermont Registration and Title Application where it states the VIN verification required when “Vehicles over 15 years old, for which a Vermont resident is seeking an "exempt title." and “Motorcycles which are not titleable but are 500 cc's or more and have not been previously registered/titled to the applicant or have not been previously registered in Vermont.” Sorry about the long comment but I just want to know every single step before moving forward.
Not a problem at all because that bike is now 15 years old you do not need to go through the VIN verification process. You simply submit the paperwork and if all is good you will in return receive a VT plate, registration and sticker.
I appreciate the quick response and another quick question I went on the NADA website and saw 3 prices “suggested list price” “low retail” and “average retail price” which one should I chose?
Hey Haslip Cycle Works, I really liked your video but I am still a little confused on how to register my bike. Would you be able to help me answer some questions? From what I can tell, I have a 1981 Yamaha XT250 (250cc) that I bought from parts section of a vintage motorcycle dealer. I was issued a bill of sale but I wasn;t given a title. The VIN is still intact on the bike and from searches on Colorado Department of Public Safety as well as NICB indicate that the bike isn't stolen and that it isn't in NICB salvage records. Granted the bike is very old and doesn't have a standard VIN number (I don't believe VINs were standardized for at least a few more years). I currently do not have motorcycle insurance and I am looking to obtain a title for my bike. I seem to be having a hard time determining whether my bike already has a title in Colorado, but I have had no luck. If I am to go through with the Vermont registration, would I be given a title for my bike or would it simply be registered? I am looking to transfer their information to Colorado to have the bike titled in Colorado and I am unsure if I am approaching this in the correct manner. I will also note, my bike did not have an odometer when I got it, what should I put as the mileage? Would I need to have a motorcycle license and insurance in order to register my bike in Vermont? Sorry about the rather lengthy paragraph but any help is appreciated! Thank you
You are headed in the ride direction. You are correct the VIN is more than likely not the current standard. If you go through VT you will receive a registration, a plate and sticker. VT doesn’t issue titles for anything over 15 years old or under 300cc. Your registration acts as a title in VT. Once you receive your items from VT you go to your local dmv office give them that information and tell them you want to transfer it to your home state. They will ask for $ and print you a fresh title, a new registration, a sticker and a plate. You can get insurance and registration/title without having a license. Hope all that helps.
@masonmaynell7275 quick google search and it appears as of July 1st they closed out of state registration. So effectively we may have lost our loophole.
Im from NEW YORK Recently I bought a motorcycle in New York. When I checked the vin the motorcycle came out clean The only different i seen was the motorcycle is actually from Pennsylvania. Will the vermont loop hole will still work?
It should but I have heard NY is pretty strict on their rules. Might be a good idea to reach out to your local dmv and ask if they allow title transfers from Vermont.
Q: Vermont just approved my form. When going to my local DMV (not In Vermont) do i tell them I purchased the bike in Vermont? Thanks for any suggestions.
Congratulations! Nope you simply say I have a registration and plate for a bike and you want to transfer it to your state. They will probably ask for your title. Tell them Vermont doesn’t issue a title for a bike under 300cc or over 15 years old, they might then refer to this giant book they keep. They should then have you fill something out, ask for $$ and then cut you a new clean title, give you a new registration, new plate and new stickers.
@@HaslipCycleWorks : Thanks. While I have you, would you buy one of those cheap Chrome / Zipp batteries, or Caltric for a bike? I bet you would say go for the best. But I don't know what battery will truly hold better than the others. For a 2006 KLR650.
happysawfish whatever you have budget wise to spend. I’ve had good and bad luck with both ends of the spectrum. I haven’t had any experience with either of those particular brands personally
awesome video, im definitely going to try that here in rhode island. But why not just use the vermont plate? you already went through the trouble of registering and plating in one state, why do it twice?
Thank you! You can but Virginia has a rule about having a vehicle registered in another state while you are a resident of VA for a certain amount of time. Also if you I get pulled over I feel better about my address, license, and registration all lining up.
Hi Haslip Cycle Works. , Just thinking about this a little more. Is there any reason you couldn't use the actual plate you received for the first year,,,the 'Vermont' plate to get some use out of it,,providing you got insurance from your insurance company, along with it for this bike,,then at the end of the first year, transfer the tile to your home state?It seems as long as you are carrying the registration in your own name on the bike,the license state should be irrelevant. I am missing something ,I am sure. Thanks again for the detailed info on this.
No problem. The only think to look out for is if you get pulled over for whatever reason the registration for the bike will be from VT but your address on the registration and your license will be in another state. I’m not sure if that would cause a problem or not. I just assume not chance it and get it titled, registered and insured in my home state that way everything lines up 100%.
I’m not sure about, I bought mine second hand so I have no experience with that. I’ve heard they come with a form you fill out and send in and they send you a self built mso or something like that.
It will if they are less than 300cc. Honestly it will work for any bike the “loophole “ is that if it’s over 15 years old or under 300cc there is no VIN inspection. You could do it with a newer larger bike but the vin inspection would have to happen which would be a problem if you are trying to register in VT but don’t live there.
You know, I don’t know. There is a place dirtlegal.com that specializes in making off-road vehicles street legal including titling. Might be something to look at. Unless you minibike has a vin then yeah I think this process would work to get a title for it.
Sorry but did you go off of Suggested list price/low retail or average retail when looking at nada guidelines and did you use your area code or the Vermont one? Thanks
Great video! Quick question do you have to physically write in the NADA value in the grey box? I left it blank but just added the 6% if it in the tax box at the end.
Hey question and need help. I’m trying to purchase an 19 rebel 300 but has no title . It’s in dc and he bought it with Florida tags. I live in Fairfax VA . Could this still work or different process?
Unfortunately as of July 1st Vermont closed this to outside residents. Virginia does have a bonded title process that might work for you but I haven’t got a lot of solid information on that process yet.
Was unable to get title for it, ended up putting it in my shop as a collection convo piece , but I just now got 04 Suzuki gsxr from a guy it needs restored so in the process I'll be doing this an will come back to have an answer 🙏
Thinking I might get in some trouble if I get pulled over with a Vermont plate (especially a temporary tag) while the actual are in the mail still. What do you think?
The Vermont plate should be a real plate. Nothing to say you’re waiting on the transfer. Registration and everything should have the correct information. Only thing they could complain about is you not being a Vermont resident but doubt it.
Not sure. I don’t know what the rules in California are, I would suspect they are more strict than other states. Your local DMV should be able to tell you though.
It still works! I had a minor set back because I appraised the Value of my bike too high. They sent me back the documents I need to update and got my plates in the mail 2 weeks latter.
Updated the links to the Vermont documents as they changed their webpage around.
@Jarius Burton it’s almost always on the steering neck part of the frame.
@Jarius Burton just follow my video, it’s step by step and I’ve done it twice now. Getting ready to do it for a third time. Still works.
Is the email address required do you think it would cause problems if it's not written down
@@deancotton74 I honestly don’t think it would, I never received anything from them via email.
Shouldn’t it be Under 300cc or 15 years old?
Probably the most informative video I’ve ever watched on RUclips and I appreciate that!
This comment just made my day! Thank you.
Great video! I've heard of doing this before, but no one ever goes over the details or they have a friend of a friend that did it.
Priceless info bro.thanks for breaking it down so clearly.
Kart nerds absolutely, I found the same thing so I wanted to go through it and document it all so people could actually use the information. Thanks for the good feedback and confirming I got it squared away.
@@HaslipCycleWorks had to comeback and save this video. Such a great resource.
I did this process last summer with my '90 Suzuki RMX-250. A few things to note:
- If your bike happens to not have an odometer equipped... Don't sweat it. Just put "No odometer" under the mileage :)
- Tax is based on the "Fair" value, not the "Good" value. Win!
I did this by mail. In fact, I did not even send them the odometer disclosure form. Just the reg form, and the bill of sale.
I will be soon transferring this reg to RI, where there is no title or VIN check requirement on any vehicle over 20 years old.
What state are you in?
@@HPST205 RI
How would I be able to figure out the laws for Pennsylvania?
Did you send it in as a mc title or off road? And does it matter?
@@d21dusty72 No title at all. The bike is old enough to not require one. They just look up the VIN at the DMV. So you will need the VIN and a "bill of sale" (just have your friend make one up lol)
I just sent my info into DMV. You explained everything perfectly. Seeing what I needed to do was so much easier. Visual demo is worth it's weight in gold. Thank you so much. The only thing I couldn't find was a scooter code. But we'll see. ;-)
sharon kutsch fingers crossed. Thank you for the positive feedback!
Did you recive andyour registration yet? Jw I sent mine off 3 weeks ago they did cash my check just waiting for it too come in the mail.
Riley Triepke if they cashed your check that is a very good sign.
Fact!!!!!!
@@rileytriepke8440 how did it go
Hell yeah!! Exactly one month after I sent them off, they finally came in the mail today!! Blessings bro🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
That’s awesome!
I’m also in Virginia and just purchased an untitled bike from North Carolina. Your video was very well done and explained some of the details I was missing. Great job, thanks again for sharing this important info!
That’s awesome! You are absolutely welcome, glad you found it useful.
Niceeee!!!! I followed you instructions to register a UTV I bought and I just got the letter back with the actual tag and the paper work, your are the man. Just be a aware it may take longer than what it took for you because of the COVID, I sent my paperwork two and a half months ago I had actually lost hope on it and just today boom!!! got everything on the mail.
scorpion963 that’s so cool! Happy riding!
@@HaslipCycleWorks how do I apply for the forms I clicked on your link doesn’t show how or where to apply just tells you the information on what you need also I have a 2004 Zx6r 600cc sport bike no title clean vin would it still work if it’s a 600cc or I’m shit out of luck and have to swap the frame
@@jaymarleno8958 it will still work since it’s over 10 years old. The link should take you to the form section. You will have to print the pdf files and fill them out.
@@HaslipCycleWorks yeah but how did you get that envelope it’s looks like they sent you the documents to fill out
@@jaymarleno8958 they sent it back to me because I miscalculated the total tax I owed on it that’s all.
I have a free 1965 Suzuki barn find that I am starting to work on. This information is very helpful. Thanks.
Absolutely! Thank you. Glad it helps. Good luck with the build.
Thumbs up for a fello “you didn’t hear that from me” Virginian
He got a new subscriber and a like and a comment as soon as he said that. Thank you sir.. 😉😉
Got my Vermont tags in today! Took them about 2 and a half months but it’s finally here
Awesome!
@@HaslipCycleWorks paid Vermont more then I paid for the motorcycle 😂 way worth the effort
@@R_Moose lol been there. 👍
SO you don't have to be a Vermont resident to register a bike in their state? wtf lol they not asking why a resident of Alaska wants to register and title his bike in Vermont state?
@@Voltomess you most definitely do not. 😂 they really just care about getting the money.
Sir this is gold, I just bought a 2004 bike in Delaware from a dealership and the guy is giving me excuses, 3 weeks now since I bought it and nothing in my mail. So, at this point I´m assuming NO TITLE, obviously VIN is clear. I´ll start my process through the Vermont route following all your steps and expertise. I´ll keep you posted. PS I'm PA based.
Awesome! Definitely keep us updated in the comments.
How’d it go I’m in pa as well and thinking about doing this for my bike
Same
Thank you very much work for me came in two weeks now I have my plate and my registration next Friday I’m going to go try to see if I can get my title thank you again from New York
Awesome! Another bike on the road.
Let me know how it goes, I’m in NY too
Hello, Rafael Rodriguez were you able to register and title the bike in ny ?
Thankyou Virginian! You saved me from sending a bike to the junk yard! I pray this works.
That’s awesome! Good job saving one. It’s worked for a lot of people. Keep us updated.
@@HaslipCycleWorks absolutely! (I am in de) so not to far from you. I really hope it does. Will let you know!
Nothin yet?
@@biocleanerlife4657 i been slacking lmao. I want to get the bike to fire up before chasing a title. I ordered a ignition online and its just popping fuses. I sent it back and got a new ignition. Fingers crossed. I saved the video to post and update.
I got me a 1972 Honda CB 750 with 5000 miles on it from an online estate auction for only $126 the only problem is no title and this video just made my day 🤗
That’s an amazing deal! Congratulations. That’s what it’s for. Glad you found the video.
Did it work with your 750 size engine? I’ve got one I’m trying to figure out also.
@@garrettlee2448 what year is your bike?
@@HaslipCycleWorks it’s a 1988
@@garrettlee2448 then you should have no problem going to the process and not having to worry about the vin inspection. Then it’s just a matter of if your home state has any weird requirements to transfer the VT stuff to your state.
Thanks for walking through the steps! been needing something like this!
Excellent video, thank you for all that information
god bless vermont
You are the man!!! I did the Vermont loop hole here in Hillsborough County FL it worked!
That’s awesome!
I'm in Hillsborough County FL and about to try this for a 125cc china clone bike that I don't have a title for
Ok, just checked and as of 11/1/2020 "VIN Verification - Waived for vehicles with out of state titles" straight from their website.
Also regarding electric vehicles - from what I have read you disregard the CC's and cylinders section and simply check the electric box under engine type. If anyone completes the process for an electric please leave a comment and let us all know how it went.
Thank you for the update
That should help.
Hi,
Do you by any chance go through the process for folks, obviously i will pay.
@@valerierobinson2851 no I sure don’t. There are some title services that will for a fee of course.
So does this mean that you don’t have to put the vin number on the form? Or submit the vin number at all?🤔🤔
Thank you! Gonna give this a shot from Florida.
Awesome! Come back and leave a comment and let us know how it goes.
Mannn I was about to say I hope this would work for my state and right after you said it’s for Virginia. Haha
I have a vintage WR200 from 1992. Been wanting to figure out a way to put it on the road. Awesome video brother. Thanks
@Haslip Cycle Works UPDATE: Minnesota doesn't accept Vermont registration card as "title" for vehicles older than 15 years. After several back and forth with Minnesota state DMV they wont accept anything less than a title for vehicles older than 15 years. oh well, so i ended up throwing away the motorcycle. I hope this helps any local Minnesota residents the potential headache.
Sorry to hear that brother
Thank you so much! Very helpful information. I will use this process and share it with a couple of buddies. 👍
Did it work for your untitle motorcycle?
is that worked man?
Getting a lot of the same question here in the comments "Do I need a VIN Verification?"
Well if your bike is over 10 years old OR under 300cc then the answer is NO you do not need a VIN verification. Hope this clears it up for some of you guys. Any other questions hit me up, I'll try my best to answer them.
so for non residents if the bike is 550cc but older than 10 years it doesnt need a vin check? cuz its conflicting on the website
A RavenousFetus that is correct
@@HaslipCycleWorks so they loopholed the loophole lol
A RavenousFetus lol yes
@@HaslipCycleWorks when is the last time you checked this? given its a new year and what not
Thanks for this video I'm in Maryland and tag and title my cars and motorcycles in VA so I'm sure my process will be similar to yours
Thanks you for the kind comment. The process should be exactly the same.
Got my plates and registration today it was a 1983 honda 1100c motorcycle and I didnt use a vin verification and it took about 3 weeks maybe a lil more i dont remember the exact date i sent it out hope this info helps other people.
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Just in case anyone is trying to do this during covid, I live in Virginia and got my letter back in 4 weeks. I thought it would take longer but apparently not, thanks for the vid man!
Absolutely! Thank you for let us know how it went.
So I took all my Vermont information to the VA Dmv and after a while they told me my bike has to be older then 10 years and less then 300cc, since mine is a 1000 they wouldn't give me a title. Have you heard anything about trying it on larger bikes?
@@bronzeman1853 this doesn’t seem correct to me. All you are doing is a transfer from VT to VA. You have your VT registration and plate correct?
@@HaslipCycleWorks yes I have everything, I'm gonna try it at another DMV
@@bronzeman1853 if you have to ask for a supervisor. Otherwise by their logic nothing over 300cc or under 10 years can be transferred from VT to VA and that’s bs.
*update* so they won't list this on the paperwork or the website but after waiting from July 17th to August 28th I get a rejection letter stating "the minimum taxable value of all motorcycles is $500." Even though NADA on my 96 RM 125 is $212. Just put the letter and new money order back in the post. Starting the 2 month clock again.
Good to know, thank you for the update. I will pin this comment so it stays at the top.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Just got my plates, thanks a ton for this vid. Will 100% credit this vid when recording my dual sport kit instructions. Thanks a ton for your hard work on this.
Stoplogic Motorsports congrats! That would be awesome, look forward to seeing the video.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Well good thing I didn't decide to haul out on the Rm125 tonight, realized I just got the plate alone and am still waiting on my sticker to put on the plate. I think Vermont has a sense of Humor.
Stoplogic Motorsports good catch. The sticker should show up soon. Mine came separately too.
good information , you think in life you wouldn’t ever get in that situation but it does happen in my life 2 times on motorcycles one on a Antique car that my Dad purchased legally in 1958 but never titled or registered that car as it was in storage and Restoration for 40 years
Thank you. Hope you got all of them taken care of.
this is the most helpful/informative video I've ever watched
Thank you so much. That was the whole point, to help others and spread some useful knowledge.
For anyone watching post 2023 where it supposedly doesn’t work, it does work BUT you need to show proof of residency. My family has a place there so from NY I sent in all these papers with a water electric and gas bill with my last name attached and it was no problem. You will need residency tho
Bout to start the process on my 81' cb125. Thanks for the info, yours is the only good video!
Awesome! Thank you!
Do I need to have the bike insured when I send in the documents? Also, what about section 8 on the VD-119 form? Thanks!
No you sure don’t. Section you don’t do anything but sign and date.
Live in Pennsylvania and YES this process does work!
Good to hear! Thank you.
@@HaslipCycleWorks thanks for the video! Just an update for anyone else that does this... vermont is taking 4-6 weeks longer than normal to process everything
So PA accepted vermonts registration as proof of a title? And then issued you a title?
@@Coreyb577 yes
Who did make the check out payable to or did you leave that part blank Thanks in Advance
Vermont DMV
Did this year's ago for a 1964 Sears Allstate . Worked great..
Terry Baker I was amazed how easy it was.
Will your insurance keep covering even though the reg is in a different state? Thinking about it but I'm also scared MA RMV will give me shit since that's why I'm here in the first place
@@lisabright2631 once you get the registration, you go to DMV for your state and re register it. My Allstate had no title ( the previous owner lost it). I used a service in Arizona that got me a Massachusetts title. Then I went to my local DMV ( back then I lived in New Jersey), got the forms necessary forms for transfer, and submitted them along with the application fee. The whole thing wasn't really bad, just the serial number tracing ( was on the bottom of the frame) was the hardest part.
I was wondering if anyone from Louisiana has had the same luck with this process. I bought a 50cc Honda scooter from 1987 and I would like to try this method out, however the DMV regulations in my state can be a bit confusing and ridiculous. Does anyone happen to know if this will indeed work in Louisiana.
I get so frustrated sometimes dealing with DMV's here because they would ask you to register and title your toothbrush if it has a motor on it if they could.
Update: I received my new Vermont plate and validated application back in the mail (3 weeks on the dot). I’m going to walk in to my DMV and explain the older than 10 years under 300cc thing and see how it goes. If not I’ll try a titling service. If that doesn’t work then I’ll take my chances on the road honestly. (Will be back with the results)
Update : everything worked except that I needed to have it inspected by the state police. It didn’t cost me anything and I took the inspection paper and my Vermont info in and got it all road legal in my home state of LA
Just curious, I just got information saying starting July Vermont is a Knogo and getting titles if you live in another state
You are correct. As of July 1st this year no more out of state stuff for Vermont. I updated the description to reflect the change.
Sorry if this has been answered, but the "Vermont Registration Tax &Title Application" form on the VT website has 2 duplicate pages. Are both copies supposed to be mailed in, or is the second copy just for the owner's records? This is a great video, and you explained the process very well--Thank you!
Django Fret thank you! The second copy is for your records. Definitely hold onto the second copy until the entire process is complete just in case.
Very helpful video but I still have a question when you send the papers to The department of transportation of Vermont you have to send a foto/copy of your license ?
No, you do not have to send a photo copy of your license. And thank you 🙏
Does this work in NJ? I have heard mixed things about this
I honestly don’t know. I know some states don’t care for title transfers from Vermont. You would have to ask your DMV if that is the case.
did you ever give it a try in nj?
So I sent my Vermont bill of sale and odometer disclosure as well as my registration application and a print off of the nada value along with my money order as of February 15th, 2022. I’m from North Carolina, I’ll update as soon as something happens and see if they cashed the money order!! The bike is over 15 years old so I guess I don’t need a vin verification.
*UPDATE*
I checked my money order, it was cashed February 28th, now I will wait about 2 weeks and see if I get something!
As of now I got my plate and form they send back with approval stamp, I’m still waiting for the sticker and registration card, I have no idea when you expect it but I’d like to know around when that should come as I’ve got my plate a week ago
It’s usually a week or 2 after the plate. Not sure why but that’s what it has been for me
Thank you for the info sir...😉
can you show us how in September 2023?
Unfortunately as of July 1st this year you can no longer use this process unless you’re a resident of Vermont.
Has anyone tried this out in NY?
Im doing this right now, but I'm having a service do it for me. I live in Maryland and the DMV here is hell to deal with. The title of my bike has a typo on the VIN so the DMV didn't want to help me out until I get the title typo corrected. Literally, the VIN on the title was missing 1 digit. I got the bike's VIN checked out by a Maryland state trooper and the VIN is clean. Issue was just getting a hold of the seller and then the previous owner since the guy didn't register !!
Once my plates come in I plan on keeping it registered in VT, I'll pay the $40 yearly fee for a new sticker. I'm not dealing with getting it inspected and possibly having to shell out $$ for that too
Can you transfer it from VT to Maryland?
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah I can. But, it'll still require me to get the bike inspected at a shop. Im avoiding that cause that's just another cash grab for shops to make you fix stuff there. Im perfectly fine having VT plates. And honestly, I've ridden this bike around since the summer and haven't gotten pulled over.
Im here in 2024 😔
Sorry. Vermont really screwed us over. Apparently there is a way to go through Montana with a trust? Not sure how DIY it is though.
Vermont now requires that your dmv allow you to register vehicles in another state to make this happen. Sucks happened to me
What does this mean
Hey, I filled out the application and mailed it out. I later received a new plate and registration for the bike, which is great. However, I didn't receive an actual title for the motorcycle, and instead received my title application back that was just stamped as validated. Did you receive an actual title in the mail as well, or did you receive your application back , like I did? Thanks! :D
Same as you. You now take all of that to your local dmv and transfer it to your state. Remind them that Vermont doesn’t issue a title for vehicles over 10 years old or under 300cc. They should take it all and have you fill out a form or two and the will print you a title, registration and give you a plate and stickers
I have a kicker 5150 bike also... need to find a motor to put on it so I know what size to title it as... also have a 1979 kawasaki 750 project to title... thank you for the instruction
Motors in a range of sizes are available on Amazon or Ebay. I bought a 200cc for another project that’s identical to the kikker one.
Hey, great video! I know you mentioned year/age of the bike and engine size. Would this process still apply for a 1972 Honda CL100? I think it technically classifies as a vintage bike and the engine size is quite small. Thanks!
It absolutely would work.
@@HaslipCycleWorksGreat! Thanks!
Did you end up doing this? I have the same bike and same issue.
Thanks ahead
So would that work on a motorhome over 30 years old or camper over 30 years old Or a pick up truck over 20 years old
Honestly not sure, haven’t looked into that. I don’t see why not though. Tax rate maybe different.
Anybody try this in PA that could offer any insight before I try getting my bike titled?
I'm in the same boat I think it will work no problem, long as it not stolen lol, let me know if u do it first
@@kevinkev1530 I ran the NADA check and it came back as having no owners ever! Really confused on that. Gonna be sending the paperwork next week
@@adamfritz84 nice, please let me know looking to buy sumthin now
@@kevinkev1530 just had my paper work returned to me. There was a step skipped in the video. The bottom of the "application form" section 8, has to be signed and dated
@@adamfritz84 did you end up having success?
Is it possible to Vermont title on a 20 year old Harley with the 1340 cc?
Absolutely
hey great video! I just had one question. What do you make the check payable to?
Unless you are a resident of VT this process unfortunately doesn’t work after July1st 2023.
Hey man! I used this loophole to acquire a plate and registration for my 1995 fireblade about 2 months ago, however I haven't tried to transfer it to an Ohio title as I've heard ohio is rather strict. I'm seeing online that vermont closed the loophole, but does that mean I can't get the title transferred? Or I just can't register anything new in Vermont? Basically i'm trying to figure out whether its impossible to get my title transferred, or whether it would be easier since the loophole is closed and people won't be using it for theft. Sorry for long question, thanks!
No worries. Now that the loophole is closed you just won’t be able to apply for anything out of state for Vermont. Anything you already have is valid. I would check with your local dmv to see what you need to complete the transfer.
would it be easier to handwrite everything or just type and do a wet signature?
Types with a wet signature to avoid any misunderstanding. Anything to make it easier for Vermont dmv makes it easier and quicker for you.
Does the vermont registration tax and title application have to be signed at the bottom
Yes, signed and dated.
Followed the steps to a Tea but unfortunately did not work for Wisconsin. Got the letter today and will update you with the reasoning later.
Very interested to hear why.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Will let you know soon
@@HaslipCycleWorks Vermont DMV is asking me to "attach the previous title certificate, so they can release the lien and issue a new title"
@@HaslipCycleWorks I have a whole print out they sent me if you could give any guidance, I could email it to you
@@dzzyfilms ok so their is a lien on it? That lien will need to be satisfied before you can proceed.
Howdy I’m from New Mexico and recently bought a 2007 Yamaha R6 with no paperwork whatsoever. I’m confused on the Vermont Registration and Title Application where it states the VIN verification required when “Vehicles over 15 years old, for which a Vermont resident is seeking an "exempt title." and “Motorcycles which are not titleable but are 500 cc's or more
and have not been previously registered/titled to the
applicant or have not been previously registered in
Vermont.” Sorry about the long comment but I just want to know every single step before moving forward.
Not a problem at all because that bike is now 15 years old you do not need to go through the VIN verification process. You simply submit the paperwork and if all is good you will in return receive a VT plate, registration and sticker.
I appreciate the quick response and another quick question I went on the NADA website and saw 3 prices “suggested list price” “low retail” and “average retail price” which one should I chose?
@@joerivera3755 honestly the highest one is what VT is after.
Thanks for posting! Very informative.
New Vermont state slogan
" Vermont, we do more than maple syrup"
Hey Haslip Cycle Works, I really liked your video but I am still a little confused on how to register my bike. Would you be able to help me answer some questions?
From what I can tell, I have a 1981 Yamaha XT250 (250cc) that I bought from parts section of a vintage motorcycle dealer. I was issued a bill of sale but I wasn;t given a title. The VIN is still intact on the bike and from searches on Colorado Department of Public Safety as well as NICB indicate that the bike isn't stolen and that it isn't in NICB salvage records. Granted the bike is very old and doesn't have a standard VIN number (I don't believe VINs were standardized for at least a few more years).
I currently do not have motorcycle insurance and I am looking to obtain a title for my bike. I seem to be having a hard time determining whether my bike already has a title in Colorado, but I have had no luck. If I am to go through with the Vermont registration, would I be given a title for my bike or would it simply be registered?
I am looking to transfer their information to Colorado to have the bike titled in Colorado and I am unsure if I am approaching this in the correct manner. I will also note, my bike did not have an odometer when I got it, what should I put as the mileage?
Would I need to have a motorcycle license and insurance in order to register my bike in Vermont?
Sorry about the rather lengthy paragraph but any help is appreciated!
Thank you
You are headed in the ride direction. You are correct the VIN is more than likely not the current standard. If you go through VT you will receive a registration, a plate and sticker. VT doesn’t issue titles for anything over 15 years old or under 300cc. Your registration acts as a title in VT. Once you receive your items from VT you go to your local dmv office give them that information and tell them you want to transfer it to your home state. They will ask for $ and print you a fresh title, a new registration, a sticker and a plate. You can get insurance and registration/title without having a license. Hope all that helps.
@@HaslipCycleWorks ok sad news, someone just told
Me they closed the loophole
@@HaslipCycleWorks do you happen to know if this is true, as you are in vermint
@masonmaynell7275 quick google search and it appears as of July 1st they closed out of state registration. So effectively we may have lost our loophole.
Should have done this years ago. Have a special construction sitting in my garage.
Can I use Vermont if I live in Florida. I just bought a ltz400 without a title in lake placid. Can I use this same method since I live in Florida?
Yes, you go through the VT process and once you receive everything you transfer it to Florida to get your FL tags, plates and title.
Thanks for the video. Quick question: how would I transfer the registration to someone buying my motorcycle with Vermont plates?
There might be a way to transfer it in the registration itself. Or you could get it titled in your state and then transfer the title to the buyer.
Im from NEW YORK Recently I bought a motorcycle in New York. When I checked the vin the motorcycle came out clean The only different i seen was the motorcycle is actually from Pennsylvania. Will the vermont loop hole will still work?
It should but I have heard NY is pretty strict on their rules. Might be a good idea to reach out to your local dmv and ask if they allow title transfers from Vermont.
Thanks
Q: Vermont just approved my form. When going to my local DMV (not In Vermont) do i tell them I purchased the bike in Vermont? Thanks for any suggestions.
Congratulations! Nope you simply say I have a registration and plate for a bike and you want to transfer it to your state. They will probably ask for your title. Tell them Vermont doesn’t issue a title for a bike under 300cc or over 15 years old, they might then refer to this giant book they keep. They should then have you fill something out, ask for $$ and then cut you a new clean title, give you a new registration, new plate and new stickers.
@@HaslipCycleWorks thank you!
Very good information ! Wondering what the rules are for Motor Vehicles . . . ?
happysawfish I honestly don’t know, haven’t had an opportunity to deal with that yet.
@@HaslipCycleWorks : Thanks. While I have you, would you buy one of those cheap Chrome / Zipp batteries, or Caltric for a bike? I bet you would say go for the best. But I don't know what battery will truly hold better than the others. For a 2006 KLR650.
happysawfish whatever you have budget wise to spend. I’ve had good and bad luck with both ends of the spectrum. I haven’t had any experience with either of those particular brands personally
Nice Video, will this work in FL, and I would like to do 50 150 and 250cc scooters,,,,is it the same process? TY again
I believe it has been done by someone in the comments from FL and yea same process.
What if the motorcycle doesn’t have a engine. Do we still put on the paperwork?
I don’t see why not, you would title it if you did an engine swap or electric conversion.
@@HaslipCycleWorks i plan on getting an rolling chassis with no engine to do a electric conversion
One more question: to who will be the check going to? Sorry for dumbs questions. 😬 Thanks
Vermont Department of Motor Vehicles. I believe it tells you on the online form.
Did both envelopes show up on the same day?
No it was several days apart for some reason
Hey man if you don’t mind I would like to ask you some questions about this process
Shoot me an email or dm on Instagram
awesome video, im definitely going to try that here in rhode island. But why not just use the vermont plate? you already went through the trouble of registering and plating in one state, why do it twice?
Thank you! You can but Virginia has a rule about having a vehicle registered in another state while you are a resident of VA for a certain amount of time. Also if you I get pulled over I feel better about my address, license, and registration all lining up.
@@HaslipCycleWorks I went on their site and realized this myself right after I commented.
Would this also work for one that has a certificate of destruction? I have a bike I’m looking at that is operable but the frame has that cert.
redneckgamer2013 I believe it will, I don’t recall a section for that.
So what happenes if you go through this process and there ends up being a lien on the bike?
The lien will need to be satisfied before the title will be released.
Please, how about in Florida?
I do believe that someone in the comments has done it. I honestly don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
Hi Haslip Cycle Works. , Just thinking about this a little more. Is there any reason you couldn't use the actual plate you received for the first year,,,the 'Vermont' plate to get some use out of it,,providing you got insurance from your insurance company, along with it for this bike,,then at the end of the first year, transfer the tile to your home state?It seems as long as you are carrying the registration in your own name on the bike,the license state should be irrelevant. I am missing something ,I am sure. Thanks again for the detailed info on this.
No problem. The only think to look out for is if you get pulled over for whatever reason the registration for the bike will be from VT but your address on the registration and your license will be in another state. I’m not sure if that would cause a problem or not. I just assume not chance it and get it titled, registered and insured in my home state that way everything lines up 100%.
I seen that the Kikker 5150 motorcycle doesnt come with a title. unless you get the 49cc.
I’m not sure about, I bought mine second hand so I have no experience with that. I’ve heard they come with a form you fill out and send in and they send you a self built mso or something like that.
So this would not work at all for newer bikes ?
It will if they are less than 300cc. Honestly it will work for any bike the “loophole “ is that if it’s over 15 years old or under 300cc there is no VIN inspection. You could do it with a newer larger bike but the vin inspection would have to happen which would be a problem if you are trying to register in VT but don’t live there.
Does the previous owner HAVE to have a Vermont License or be a resident at all? VD-119 asks for a license, reason why im asking
No they do not, you can use your license number or social in that field.
Will this work for a mini bike
You know, I don’t know. There is a place dirtlegal.com that specializes in making off-road vehicles street legal including titling. Might be something to look at. Unless you minibike has a vin then yeah I think this process would work to get a title for it.
Sorry but did you go off of Suggested list price/low retail or average retail when looking at nada guidelines and did you use your area code or the Vermont one? Thanks
Used my area code and average retail.
@@HaslipCycleWorks thanks again sir.
Would a 2007 750cc work for this process?
Yup now that it’s 15 years old.
Great video! Quick question do you have to physically write in the NADA value in the grey box? I left it blank but just added the 6% if it in the tax box at the end.
I do believe so. I usually print a copy and include it.
Who do I make the check out to?
Vermont Department of Motor Vehicles
Hey question and need help. I’m trying to purchase an 19 rebel 300 but has no title . It’s in dc and he bought it with Florida tags. I live in Fairfax VA . Could this still work or different process?
Unfortunately as of July 1st Vermont closed this to outside residents. Virginia does have a bonded title process that might work for you but I haven’t got a lot of solid information on that process yet.
🔥 thank you so much gonna try this with my 80’ xmax wish me luck
Glad it has helped you. Very nice! What is your home state? When it all goes through come back to the comments and share your experience.
@@HaslipCycleWorks North Carolina!
Was unable to get title for it, ended up putting it in my shop as a collection convo piece , but I just now got 04 Suzuki gsxr from a guy it needs restored so in the process I'll be doing this an will come back to have an answer 🙏
Well might not work since it's 2004, just rewatched whole video again, maybe something will come in my favor
Thinking I might get in some trouble if I get pulled over with a Vermont plate (especially a temporary tag) while the actual are in the mail still. What do you think?
The Vermont plate should be a real plate. Nothing to say you’re waiting on the transfer. Registration and everything should have the correct information. Only thing they could complain about is you not being a Vermont resident but doubt it.
Please who do I make the check out to how do I get the proper check please I need answers asap
Just got my plate in the mail today
Must one provide a cover letter or are those applications you used good enough?
I haven’t ever used a cover letter. Just mailed the printed documents per the instructions.
Does this process work in California???
Not sure. I don’t know what the rules in California are, I would suspect they are more strict than other states. Your local DMV should be able to tell you though.
Will this work if the bike is titled in the original owners name without contact from him
I guess it could. Are you unable to contact the original owner to sign over the title?
Just got done filling out all the required fields explained in the Video. When Filling Out the Check do you just make it to "Vermont DMV?"
That is correct
@@HaslipCycleWorks Awesome Im sending mine out this week. Ill report back when I get my plate. Thank you again for the supper informative video!
It still works! I had a minor set back because I appraised the Value of my bike too high. They sent me back the documents I need to update and got my plates in the mail 2 weeks latter.
@@jeffreycaves2756 good deal!
Great video..... Got one question for ya, didn't Vermont question why if your address is in Virginia, were you titling in Vermont?
Carlos Cano nope, they didn’t seem to care sent it all to my Virginia address without issue.
Hey I was just wondering when I look on the website it seems to me u have to have a cop or dmv check the vin before u send it in, is that correct?
That’s only on a bike that has a motor larger than 300cc/ newer than 10 years old. So if it’s a 2022 250cc you don’t if it’s a 1986 1000cc you don’t.