Yep. That was the first nail in the coffin for me. Then Whole Cake Island was a massive stake in the coffin and I was like, FK THE ANIME. Crazy how this was 12 YEARS AGO AHAHHA. I did nothing with my life.
@@meurumtrain4747 Only with weekly animation. I didn't have much problem with MHA, HxH, Demons Slayer to extent, and def not Solo Leveling. Hell, I didn't have much problems with Naruto cuz they weren't shy with their fillers. Toei just decided to add filler to canon after TS, which is BS because it will be in their forever, compared to naruto, you can binge the entire show without a lick of filler. Or new people getting into One Piece can skip Foxy Foxfox and the baseball fillers of the Pre-ts but getting to Zhou or wholecake island, filler begins to blend in with canon. Whole cake had a whole fight scene that wasn't even in the manga. One Piece animation gave birth to the, I think first of its kind, One Pace, a group of editors removing filler scenes and pacing from the canon. lmao.
that was a pretty small mistake, but I don't think Oda accidentally forgot to draw an entire fight scene. The point of this fight was to make Zoro look more badass by defeating him instantly.
I realize this extended fight didn't happen in the Manga, where Zoro basically one-shotted Hody. But I like to think that, in the Anime, Zoro just wanted a good fight and allowed Hody to attack him... only to get disappointed and bored after a while when he realized Hody wasn't as strong as he thought he was.
first of all zoro vs kaku was after skypiea, secondly haki is haki, the fact that it was shown in episode 4 proves that Haki exists and Zoro was feeling the breath of all things in his fight with Mr. 1 much like Roger's ability to hear the voice of all things, he was clearly predicting what was about to happen which is what color of observation haki is
I was quite dissapointed at Luffy being hurt badly after fighting Hody that he needed blood transfer. Although I am not surprised since it was all underwater, where Hody had a bigger advantage.
@KrissFao It's all, I read the manga too so I don't mind. But it's still not fair to ruin the fun for the anime fans. Of topic question, but have you read the latest chapter yet? c:
Im going to ask for a minor spoiler here. I've heard rumours fromt he end of the Fishman island arc that seems to indicate the final Straw hat MIGHT at some point in the future be Jimbei. Can you confirm or deny this at alll?
I wonder what would Hodi's reaction if he was fighting Sanji underwater.Because it was stated that Sanji's speed under water is as fast as an top class fishman/merman.
@MadaraXIII Don't know yet, nothing has been mentioned about it. I wouldn't put it past Mihawk to take it to either help him, or remind him that they are still enemies. Mihawk is a pretty cold cowboy.
Lol he most likely already knows how to use Haki (he was trained by an emperor remember?), and most likely Sanji ALSO knows how to use Haki (Ivan would've taught him at Okama land). Robin and Franky are my next guess as to whether they may be able to use a little bit of Haki. Now...the rest of the crew I don't know xD
Yeah so i've heard. Punk Hazard right? Im following the anime myself, last I saw Zoro just blocked the New Fishman Pirates' Swordsman from killing Robin (I've forgotten his name sorry). Am I ANYWHERE near the end of the Fishman island Arc cos it doesn't look like it from where Im standing, we haven't even started the individual fights yet
Honestly, I believe thats due to they dont want it to be a bleach accident, where the anime stops due to it speeding up to where the manga is at but Idk
Dude i know all that. But remember when they were fighting a kraken and chopper used a rumble ball to turn into guard point. that was a mistake and oda informed toei so that it was fixed in the anime. Oda keeps a connection with toei. He gave a lot of filler ideas to toei. So maybe this was one of them. U never know
U never know maybe the fight was like this but the manga just skipped the beggining parts. Like how they skipped the fight between the princes and hody's crew later in the manga
No, Zoro has been shown to have Haki as it was explicitly distinguished from dodging. In his fight against Mr. 1, Mr. 1 asked how he dodged them and he said "I didn't, I just knew where they were going to fall." Likewise with Kaku, he was wondering how he got struck and he said "how did he know what attack I was going to use?" Haki isn't a skill level or even pertinent to reflexes. The fact of the matter is he predicted moves in these situations and denying them as Haki is just stupidity
this is a filler he meant to say was that in manga it was a small fight as zoro gets in water he just cuts hody and finish the fight in manga was of 3 sec
oh yeah thats toally the case. I mean its ok comparedf to arcs of the past but really if we're comparing it to past arcs the ones that are actually worth comparing it to in terms fo scale and fights and plot etc are the East blue arcs. I mean its not as if the start of the second half should be aiming to top the stuff that happened in the Whitebeard War arcs or even the CP9 arcs. the dial has sort of been dialed back a bit altho i reckon the grand finale will b biger than the marineford arc
the individual fights shouldn't last long aside from luffy v. hordy. The new fishman pirates are basically fodder in comparison to the straw hats. You are getting near the end, but the episodes seem to be dragging out the fights a little too much. For example the fight in this video was literally zoro owning hordy in like one panel, but you get a several minute fight in the anime.
Thats actually the complete opposite of how OP bounties work. Kids got more bounty then luffy because of the mass slaughter of innocents, while luffy got his from being daring with fighting ability to back it up. A bounty is not a power level and shouldnt be considered one. Jimbe and arlong were never equal or even close, just cus they grew up together jimbe was always far above him in power, the flashbacks show that clearly.
I don't what the other crew members can do since the time skip zoro is something fucking else I mean the guy created the illusion of Asura with his spirit alone as soon as luffy teaches him haki (if he already doesn't know it from training with *the worlds greatest swordsman*) then he will be unstoppable
Arlong is beast ass hell, he was fierce, no humans could never beat him, the only reason why Kizaru beat him because he was off guard, if Kizaru was fighting him head-on Kizaru would be fish food. Arlong can beat any human one One piece, Luffy just won because Arlong was so arrogant and angry, Arlong is the strongest. He should be a shichibukai.
Also crocodile in the WB war, he had a low bounty compared to everyone else in the war (literally) yet he ended up being a boss casually trying to kill wb then deciding he can do it later to ALSO fight the marines. He was alone in a war of the very strongest with one of the lowest bounties and yet wrecked house, vs many of the most powerful people in the series. Even if arlong could raise his bounty by doing it different, hed still be too weak to really hang.
@jovon513 not sharinggan but mihawk eye.... when zoro practice with mihawk , zoro eye get badly injury and mihawk give his eye to zoro... just my theory .-.
I prefer the manga version of the fight where everyone is like: "You cant beat a fishman in water" But Zoro one shots him with one slash. like a boss
They did it that way in one pace, shit was legendary.
@@mimikramaYou think he remembers leaving a comment here 12 years ago ?
@@manthan_mahadikI guess he is ...I have seen many comments like 15 years ago or 10 years and they still replied
@@GalaxyImpact200 I wonder
I love how they made it look like Zoro was trying. In the manga, this fight was one panel long...
Yep. That was the first nail in the coffin for me. Then Whole Cake Island was a massive stake in the coffin and I was like, FK THE ANIME.
Crazy how this was 12 YEARS AGO AHAHHA. I did nothing with my life.
@@gid519algorithim brought me here
@@gid519to be fair it makes sense. He’s fighting a fishman in water. Also manga will always look faster
Yeah, but the worst is kaido vs luffy 1st time. In anime it's like an epic battle, but in the manga it's a literal one shot 😂
@@meurumtrain4747 Only with weekly animation. I didn't have much problem with MHA, HxH, Demons Slayer to extent, and def not Solo Leveling. Hell, I didn't have much problems with Naruto cuz they weren't shy with their fillers.
Toei just decided to add filler to canon after TS, which is BS because it will be in their forever, compared to naruto, you can binge the entire show without a lick of filler. Or new people getting into One Piece can skip Foxy Foxfox and the baseball fillers of the Pre-ts but getting to Zhou or wholecake island, filler begins to blend in with canon. Whole cake had a whole fight scene that wasn't even in the manga.
One Piece animation gave birth to the, I think first of its kind, One Pace, a group of editors removing filler scenes and pacing from the canon. lmao.
"No matter how good you are, you can't beat a Fish-Man in the sea."
I call Bullshit. Sanji did.
Hordy: You can't deflect the arrows in the water.
Zoro: Tha Hell I can't!
that arrow dodging reminds me of vegeta dodging punches of imperfect cell. kickass stuff all the way.....
This made me watch Arlongs episodes again... Roronoa's improvement is incredible
Can;t wait to hear the story about the eye!
Lol in the manga, Zoro finished this fight in like 5 seconds. Haha
Yeah 😂fr
This fight would have been great for Sanji, with the way he can move and use hit underwater.
shielding yourself with a fellow fishman like a boss!
I want to say this is not Haki he just can see through Hordy's attacks
Thank You
Excellent vid
People may not realize, but this is the first time the main antagonist of arc gets whooped like this by someone not named Luffy, lol
Making shark arrows in water and throwing them at zoro.... seems all legit
yeah, in the manga he was just like "shut the fuck up! *slash*"
he was showing mercy.
Dramatic effect. It was actually moving at the speed of sound. Just ignore Hordy putting that one fishmen in front of him for half a minute. lol
@jovon513 I've been reading the manga and I gotta ask. WTF made him lose his eye?
throwing water arrows underwater... seems legit.
that was a pretty small mistake, but I don't think Oda accidentally forgot to draw an entire fight scene. The point of this fight was to make Zoro look more badass by defeating him instantly.
I think the reason why is to show the overwhelming strength after 2 years of training. This is probably more of an introduction arc
Am I the only one that Hordy Jones reminds me of Michael Jackson?
Young Michael Jackson. I can see it
I realize this extended fight didn't happen in the Manga, where Zoro basically one-shotted Hody. But I like to think that, in the Anime, Zoro just wanted a good fight and allowed Hody to attack him... only to get disappointed and bored after a while when he realized Hody wasn't as strong as he thought he was.
Zoro is a beast :D One hitting a strong fishman underwater :D
first of all zoro vs kaku was after skypiea, secondly haki is haki, the fact that it was shown in episode 4 proves that Haki exists and Zoro was feeling the breath of all things in his fight with Mr. 1 much like Roger's ability to hear the voice of all things, he was clearly predicting what was about to happen which is what color of observation haki is
i wana see zoro and luffy fight again like the one before :D
I like the little avatar ...
Have you ever played Gears of War? Using a meat shield is always more fun. :D
wow.... I have a great feeling that zoro could become an amazing jedi...
dodging those water bullets like there nothing o.o
frist 2023 commet lets gooo
I was quite dissapointed at Luffy being hurt badly after fighting Hody that he needed blood transfer. Although I am not surprised since it was all underwater, where Hody had a bigger advantage.
I bet Zorro's left eye is not blind. Probably a hidden Hawkeye technique that only use in crucial moments.
yeah no
conqueror haki was introduced, and yet there wasnt a single glimpse of armaments and observation until the skypea arc
It was quite obvious zoro used at least kenbunshoku in his fight with Mr 1
@KrissFao It's all, I read the manga too so I don't mind. But it's still not fair to ruin the fun for the anime fans.
Of topic question, but have you read the latest chapter yet? c:
@KrissFao Did you really have to spoil... The fight hasn't even aired yet. D:
What's the name of the soundtrack when hody and zoro are in underwater?
Im going to ask for a minor spoiler here. I've heard rumours fromt he end of the Fishman island arc that seems to indicate the final Straw hat MIGHT at some point in the future be Jimbei. Can you confirm or deny this at alll?
Making reasonable deductions isn't stupid. I don't know about this scene but he has clearly used it before the time skip
anime - zoro was struggling.
manga - zoro one shots.
@KrissFao I know right. x'D Totally didn't see the last panel with the warship coming.
I wonder what would Hodi's reaction if he was fighting Sanji underwater.Because it was stated that Sanji's speed under water is as fast as an top class fishman/merman.
Jordy did one big mistake, getting close to swordsman to attack
@MadaraXIII Don't know yet, nothing has been mentioned about it. I wouldn't put it past Mihawk to take it to either help him, or remind him that they are still enemies. Mihawk is a pretty cold cowboy.
Lol he most likely already knows how to use Haki (he was trained by an emperor remember?), and most likely Sanji ALSO knows how to use Haki (Ivan would've taught him at Okama land). Robin and Franky are my next guess as to whether they may be able to use a little bit of Haki. Now...the rest of the crew I don't know xD
I wonder if Zoro opens up his bad eye if he now has a sharinggan?
SO BEAST !
Yeah so i've heard. Punk Hazard right? Im following the anime myself, last I saw Zoro just blocked the New Fishman Pirates' Swordsman from killing Robin (I've forgotten his name sorry). Am I ANYWHERE near the end of the Fishman island Arc cos it doesn't look like it from where Im standing, we haven't even started the individual fights yet
So...Zoro has blue-grey eyes. Cool.
But he had air in his cheeks, while his mouth was open.
is hordy related to Arlong or something? Why did zoro see resemblence between the two?
only a badass like him can take a fishmen on underwater.
They should have just left this fight the way it was in the manga.
Honestly, I believe thats due to they dont want it to be a bleach accident, where the anime stops due to it speeding up to where the manga is at but Idk
It too keep the video length 23min long. So they add more fighting into it.
Hordy Jones...Hordy...
*Facepalm*
Dude i know all that. But remember when they were fighting a kraken and chopper used a rumble ball to turn into guard point. that was a mistake and oda informed toei so that it was fixed in the anime. Oda keeps a connection with toei. He gave a lot of filler ideas to toei. So maybe this was one of them. U never know
U never know maybe the fight was like this but the manga just skipped the beggining parts. Like how they skipped the fight between the princes and hody's crew later in the manga
No, Zoro has been shown to have Haki as it was explicitly distinguished from dodging. In his fight against Mr. 1, Mr. 1 asked how he dodged them and he said "I didn't, I just knew where they were going to fall." Likewise with Kaku, he was wondering how he got struck and he said "how did he know what attack I was going to use?"
Haki isn't a skill level or even pertinent to reflexes. The fact of the matter is he predicted moves in these situations and denying them as Haki is just stupidity
@RedRubyDragon6402 Shit, sorry, forgot about people who don't read manga, my apologies ; D
Yes that is true, it may happen
@Braxus6 Special eye powers from Naruto(I believe you spell it like sharingan though)
Hordy is an epic bad guy, and Zoro is even more epic :)!
Worst villain ever, all talk and no fang
kinda wish they stuck with the one shoting and expanded another scene
Thought the same thing, in the manga this fight was pretty one sided in zoro's favor.
If you don't own anything, then why do you have your name watermarked on the video?
This is what happens if zoro has a health body!
i haven't read the manga but is zoro hiding anything behind that closed eye?
0:29 Were his eyes always like that? They look kind of like Mihawk's, only smaller.
this is a filler he meant to say was that in manga it was a small fight as zoro gets in water he just cuts hody and finish the fight in manga was of 3 sec
remember when jimbei told them to take it easy?
oh yeah thats toally the case. I mean its ok comparedf to arcs of the past but really if we're comparing it to past arcs the ones that are actually worth comparing it to in terms fo scale and fights and plot etc are the East blue arcs. I mean its not as if the start of the second half should be aiming to top the stuff that happened in the Whitebeard War arcs or even the CP9 arcs. the dial has sort of been dialed back a bit altho i reckon the grand finale will b biger than the marineford arc
If he couldnt cut it in east blue how would he do better in the grand line?
the individual fights shouldn't last long aside from luffy v. hordy. The new fishman pirates are basically fodder in comparison to the straw hats. You are getting near the end, but the episodes seem to be dragging out the fights a little too much. For example the fight in this video was literally zoro owning hordy in like one panel, but you get a several minute fight in the anime.
He meant its like Arlong park all over again.
don't worry after this arc op gets pretty intense again
Even thought it has already been told. It you can clearly see that how zoro was evading those shark arrows was clearly observation haki
he was getting his assed kicked though. He had to blow air in the gills just to get away.
um spongebob takes a bath under water o.o (almost same thing)
0:17
Either Zoro had a really sharp eye or that's definitely CoO Haki. Also this fight was way better in the manga.
Either way he still looked badass.
Thats actually the complete opposite of how OP bounties work.
Kids got more bounty then luffy because of the mass slaughter of innocents, while luffy got his from being daring with fighting ability to back it up.
A bounty is not a power level and shouldnt be considered one.
Jimbe and arlong were never equal or even close, just cus they grew up together jimbe was always far above him in power, the flashbacks show that clearly.
well, in the manga zoro basically beats hordy in one cut but that's cool too
the water arrows i guess arlong used. and Arlong was a hero to the fishmen who hated humans.
He's a badass... enough said :P
Bad Ass...
wow!!
I don't what the other crew members can do since the time skip zoro is something fucking else I mean the guy created the illusion of Asura with his spirit alone as soon as luffy teaches him haki (if he already doesn't know it from training with *the worlds greatest swordsman*) then he will be unstoppable
those are the only 3 swords zoro hasnt broken...yet
I thought the arc ended here for a little while :|
Arlong is beast ass hell, he was fierce, no humans could never beat him, the only reason why Kizaru beat him because he was off guard, if Kizaru was fighting him head-on Kizaru would be fish food. Arlong can beat any human one One piece, Luffy just won because Arlong was so arrogant and angry, Arlong is the strongest. He should be a shichibukai.
The funny thing is Hordy could've simply dodged that attack...
No
As it turns out he DOES have haki.
I don't think he used it here though lol.
Hordy looks so much like Michael Jackson =))
but zoro has shown to have color of observation before the time skip too. I don't know if this was haki though
Also crocodile in the WB war, he had a low bounty compared to everyone else in the war (literally) yet he ended up being a boss casually trying to kill wb then deciding he can do it later to ALSO fight the marines.
He was alone in a war of the very strongest with one of the lowest bounties and yet wrecked house, vs many of the most powerful people in the series.
Even if arlong could raise his bounty by doing it different, hed still be too weak to really hang.
arent reasonable as those feats were shown LONG before haki was introduced, it was made to show that zoro wasnt just the average swordman
Hey just gonna add a new comment
avoid the shark arrows LIKE A BOSS!
@jovon513 not sharinggan but mihawk eye....
when zoro practice with mihawk , zoro eye get badly injury and mihawk give his eye to zoro...
just my theory .-.
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