Imagine how simple it would be if the women stayed home and the men took care of church business! Thank you, always faithful to His Word, God bless you
What about single women? What about the times the husband is not able to provide fully?( this is prior to them having kids)? Don't misunderstand me as saying women should have roles of office such as pastor or elder which is against scripture .
Just follow the word of God. Problem with Christian today is their knowledge of the scripture is so little, they are using what they learned from this fallen world as guide to govern God’s people. Sad and dangerous time.
Amen! You nail it! "15 minutes ago..." MUST GO! And the "janitor" example is spot on! No one (not married to one another) should EVER work alone together! - dicey.
Though there is more to say on it, the comment on female deacons is “15 minutes ago” by men who are acting effeminate is a bit much. Both John MacArthur holds to that as allowable as did RC Sproul. I agree there are weak kneed men today but I certainly would not put them in it that role. MacArthur makes a great support for female deacons from textual examination.
If the question in these circumstances has to be nuanced/massaged, the scripture’s answer cuts right through any of that and renders clearly that the minutiae need not even continue. Following God is far easier than we often argue/rationalize. Are we sinful creatures; absolutely, but God’s commands are actually easy to discover.
This is so simple - that's why the church hates it. Paul leaves no room for ambiguity. I feel like these issues stem from modern "churchianity". It's all about compromise vs submission to God's word.
"Can women have an administrative role in a church, because she has been endorsed by her pastor and the men in the church have no objection and she wears a headcovering and she's not a feminist and there's other men on staff with her and she calls John MacArthur for permission and... and... and... ?" Christians in America are so desperate to capitulate to the feminism of our age.
Very true, the fruit of lazy men not stepping up and women trying to fill in the gaps. Though many of the gaps are not actually supported by scripture.
Pastor John MacArthur said that older women can teach younger women on Godly womanhood and women should be workers at home according to Titus (this eliminates working outside the home for women unless volunteering in the church which shouldn't compromise their devotion to the husband, children, and household): Titus 2:3-5 [NASB2020] Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, 🔸️TEACHING🔸️ what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, 🔸️WORKERS AT HOME🔸️, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.
Right on! The prepositional phrase "over the man" cannot be distributed over both verbs, teach and "usurp aithority (KJV)", because the verbs take their objects in different cases in Greek.
Can you elaborate regarding women teaching in children's ministry, youth, women's ministry, or other areas? Curious to hear about that aspect of the church...
In Gen. Regarding Abraham he is the authority of menservants while Sarah is the authority over maidservants and also her child Isaac. Based on this in addition to 1 Tim. 2:9-15 woman over women, man over men. But also examining Peter he says even that if the man be disobedient to God she must still prove her faith to her husband in the hope that her chastity would be an ensample for the her husband. Furthermore elder women must teach the young to love their husbands so this means women are for men as keepers of their homes and comfort. Tldr God judged Adam saying "because you listened to your wife and not me" then it is not lawful for a woman to have authority over man, how much more should she be subject to a faithful man.
My mom is a worship director and has been in charge of men who have either been as part of the worship set or those coordinating sound and projection, and I have told her already that I don't believe scripture supports her role in that position. As it has led to a lot of fights in the past, I don't bring it up very much anymore. My husband and I agree that if a woman is to be in leadership in any role in the church it should be strictly children's ministry and she should have male authority over her that she answers to for things like curriculum and doctrine that she teaches.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 1 Timothy 2:12 Paul, under the authority of God, forbids women to have authority over men. Simple as that. There are areas women can minister to each other in, as found in Titus 2:3-5. But to have authority over an adult male in any capacity is strictly forbidden.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 that explains everything I need to know about you. I will not engage you in further conversation as you have forsaken God in favor of the traditions of man.
@@skeinofadifferentcolor2090 If you dont believe in traditions, how can you believe in bible? Dont you love other sheeps of Christ than they are in your own church?
Paul also wrote in this same chapter that men are to "lift holy hands" when they pray. I've never hear a teaching requiring men to do this. Also, Paul ends that chapter with women being "saved" or "preserved" through childbirth, and I've never heard any professional Christians making rules around that. To me it's obvious that Paul did not want women discipling men. That would be problematic then, and likely now. Today's churches are structured like business corporations, with much the same functions and departments. I personally don't have a problem with a competent woman "staff" supervising other "staff" in a specific departmental role within a religious non-profit corporation. Especially if the role is essential and no competent men are to be found.
They can, but they shouldn't be. The modern church worships feminism implicitly, it's hard to push back against this ever present idol. Yet, for the sake of healthy marriages and right relationships for our children we must unapologetically advocate for men to be men and women to be women in the traditional roles which Scripture lays out. We need to stop qualifying the high calling of motherhood with shout-outs to career women. We need to stop encouraging people to follow their heart wherever it leads. Instead, seek blessings from working out the roles which are born of God's instruction rather than feminists of the sexual revolution or pragmatists who seek worldly possessions as somehow more important than the proper upbringing of children by a loving, God-fearing mother. The absurdity of women in leadership positions was clearly illustrated by the woman chair person attempting to speak in a position of authority over Saddleback's ordination of women pastors. The committee was tasked with judging the proper role of women in the pastorate as practiced by Saddleback all the while contradicting the same principle in the committee itself.
i belong to a small local REFORMED church and started by a group of pp like 20 yrs ago when they were in their 20s, so we have the main Senior Pastor who started the church and also a woman preacher (who has the qualification from bible college) all these years. We also have female Deacons (aka "Deaconese"). Senior Pastor did explain as below and is this justifiable even that we are a small church of less than 150 in English congregation and about 400 in Chinese congregation. ""Regarding your other concern about women preachers, that is a valid concern, so it is important we clarify our position on this. We presume your concern arises from the reference to : "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet." Yet, we need to consider the context of this verse. The word “teach” here in its root form refers to "doctrine". It is right in saying that because doctrinal teaching came from men, as in the Bible was revealed to men, not women. Apostles are all men. Women are not supposed to come out with doctrine, nor she should have authority over a man. So in our church, we do not let woman assume the role of becoming an elder or pastor, in positions where she makes critical decisions in the form of leadership. Yet, we allow women to teach the word. This is simply taken from: "But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head" . Now, in this verse, women are allowed to prophesy, and in today’s term, prophesying is seen as teaching also, as we don't see there is a need to prophetic prophesying anymore in the New Testament. People who prophesies now teach through the word. Yet, the clause here is that she must have her head covered, which figuratively means to do it in a woman-like and submissive way instead of a man-like instructional way. In our church, only Preacher J is a woman preacher. And she does it with grace and gentleness. Yet, most of the teaching role in our church are done by men, which is mainly Pastor himself."
Look at the lengths you must go to convolute simplistic language to suit your desired interpretation. That's exhausting. If you need a dissertation on why you're permitted to do something, you're already not walking in authority required.
I agree with you. Question, what are your thoughts on a woman who has theological training, but relegates their teaching to only women in the church and that is their staff position?
I'd like some thoughts (including yours Pastor Joel) on a situation that happened at a church gathering recently, just to see if I'm overreacting or not: One of my male friends will be preaching soon on 1 Tim 2:9-15, and a lady suggested that he run his sermon past her to see if it may be offensive to women in it's presentation/tone (she said it wasn't to check his theology). This made me angry, as to me this seems like coercion, control, giving prejudice and favoritism to women, and elevating a woman to basically have authority over a male, and a male preacher. It seems from verses like the ones below that men should preach with all the authority given to them from God, and that will involve at times rebuking sharply and publicly people (including women), false teachers, like "moderates", feminists, and those who teach the commandments of men, such as "thou shall be nice" as if they were the commandments of God. Am I overreacting? Titus 2:15 (CSB) 15 Proclaim these things; encourage and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you. Titus 1:10-14 (CSB) 10 For there are many rebellious people, full of empty talk and deception, especially those from the circumcision party. 11 It is necessary to silence them; they are ruining entire households by teaching what they shouldn’t in order to get money dishonestly. 12 One of their very own prophets said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 This testimony is true. For this reason, rebuke them sharply, so that they may be sound in the faith 14 and may not pay attention to Jewish myths and the commands of people who reject the truth. 1 Timothy 5:19-21 (CSB) 19 Don’t accept an accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses. 20 Publicly rebuke those who sin, so that the rest will be afraid. 21 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels to observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing out of favoritism.
Yeah I know exactly what she's trying to do. They are more sensitive and want to police speech especially anything that they don't like. It's their nature. Don't go along with it.
@@TheSMEAC Gen 3:16 does seem describe what is happening above, and the usurping attitude of many women today: Genesis 3:16 (ESV) Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.”
I would be more offended if this lady was given what she wanted. We have enough of a disposition towards waiting to change or control the men in our life without also being given the authority to do as we wish.
Under the influence of Satan, anything is possible; Pastors who untie the teachings of Jesus, women who fail to understand the teachings of St.Paul. Protestant came from lusting mind who couldn't control their desires for lust and wealth, whereas apostolic churches were established by the true disciples who remained in the teachings of Jesus according to John 8 31.
Question: What about a female children's director where some men are children's Sunday school teachers ? And would it make a difference if there were only women children's Sunday school teachers?
@@selohcin ok, but we read Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos,Junia seem to be a missionary and I assume she taught both men and women, Phoebe, etc. how would it fit perfectly that women are not to teach men if even outside regular church worship is prohibited?
No 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
I'm still not entirely sold on women being a deacon but the word deacon means assistant and there is scripture supporting the idea of a women deacon. I wonder what are the view points to that scripture in Roman's 16:1
John McArthur believes woman being deacons is a faithful handling of the texts, and I must say I have a hard time disagreeing with him. RC Sproul was supportive of woman deacons as well. It seems both from Scripture and common sense that there is an argument to made for it. I would not want a male deacon having to provide care for a female church member in certain circumstances such as physical care for them as an older widow in need of bathing and the like…far more fitting with all of Scripture in view for a woman to be doing such things and those are things that fit deacon ministry.
Do you guys know that there are entire nations of all kinds headed by women?? Female world leaders currently and historically have lead countries as varied as Great Britain, Finland, Denmark, Greece, Moldova, Estonia, Georgia, Ethiopia, Barbados, New Zealand, Iceland, Singapore, Serbia, Trinidad and Tobago, Taiwan, Myanmar, Nepal, Norway, Bangladesh and Germany!! It's such a shame that you don't see Christian women as capable of equal feats.
@@ericthehalfmexican9187 Oh.. Well, actually many of these countries are regularly ranked as having the best standards of living in the world.. high life satisfaction, high levels of social and institutional trust, high-quality democratic institutions, extensive welfare benefits, and social-economic equality! Could you give some examples of countries you feel are culturally, financially and politically succeeding??
@@aallen5256 All of those metrics are a bunch of woke garbage from from woke NGOs. Europe and especially the EU being lead by Ursula von der Crazy are dying as we speak from their stupidity as they are running out of energy because they picked an economic fight with their energy supplier. They have sanctioned their own economies.
6:30 I though the Mike Pence model is where you promise and pretend that you are going to take action in defense of someone and the country for two weeks, then you back stab both them at the last minute.
@@RGBNeves 1 Tim 3, but for context start back in 1 Tim 2:12-15 There is a difference between a “servant” and the office of deacon. The Greek word diakonos is also used all over the New Testament in the context of servant, but not to describe the office of deacon. For example, Romans 13:4 says that government is a minister or servant of God.
There is no prohibition by Paul for women to teach EXCEPT her own husband, CONTEXT is Adam and Eve meaning Husband and Wife. In Christ there is no male or female, so there is no gender in regards to the Anointing of God. You are clearly wrong.
@@kingdomfocus8059 May I tell you what is wrong with your understanding of new testament? Kindly listen. 1) Please understand Mathew 5:19 before you distort context to fit to your choice. 2) Kindly learn by heart all that Jesus taught, that means all the 4 Gospels.
Imagine how simple it would be if the women stayed home and the men took care of church business! Thank you, always faithful to His Word, God bless you
What about single women? What about the times the husband is not able to provide fully?( this is prior to them having kids)? Don't misunderstand me as saying women should have roles of office such as pastor or elder which is against scripture .
They got tricked into working, now it’s done… Now they have to work. Not my fault. Not my moms either she voted against it.
Just follow the word of God. Problem with Christian today is their knowledge of the scripture is so little, they are using what they learned from this fallen world as guide to govern God’s people. Sad and dangerous time.
Women can serve in various roles .
I think we need a committee to study the word "staff". 🤣
Can it be headed by a woman?
Hahaha!
Thank you so much Pastor Joel for teaching Biblical truth. I agree with you 💯.
You’re very welcome. Thank you for your encouragement.
And my answer is no, she cannot be in authority over a man.
Amen! You nail it! "15 minutes ago..." MUST GO! And the "janitor" example is spot on! No one (not married to one another) should EVER work alone together! - dicey.
Though there is more to say on it, the comment on female deacons is “15 minutes ago” by men who are acting effeminate is a bit much. Both John MacArthur holds to that as allowable as did RC Sproul. I agree there are weak kneed men today but I certainly would not put them in it that role. MacArthur makes a great support for female deacons from textual examination.
If the question in these circumstances has to be nuanced/massaged, the scripture’s answer cuts right through any of that and renders clearly that the minutiae need not even continue. Following God is far easier than we often argue/rationalize. Are we sinful creatures; absolutely, but God’s commands are actually easy to discover.
This is so simple - that's why the church hates it. Paul leaves no room for ambiguity. I feel like these issues stem from modern "churchianity". It's all about compromise vs submission to God's word.
Great message, very clear and specific, thank you!
"Can women have an administrative role in a church, because she has been endorsed by her pastor and the men in the church have no objection and she wears a headcovering and she's not a feminist and there's other men on staff with her and she calls John MacArthur for permission and... and... and... ?" Christians in America are so desperate to capitulate to the feminism of our age.
Very true, the fruit of lazy men not stepping up and women trying to fill in the gaps. Though many of the gaps are not actually supported by scripture.
Pastor John MacArthur said that older women can teach younger women on Godly womanhood and women should be workers at home according to Titus (this eliminates working outside the home for women unless volunteering in the church which shouldn't compromise their devotion to the husband, children, and household):
Titus 2:3-5 [NASB2020]
Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, 🔸️TEACHING🔸️ what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, 🔸️WORKERS AT HOME🔸️, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.
As a janitor with a female boss. It's not different. Women make terrible bosses.
Right on! The prepositional phrase "over the man" cannot be distributed over both verbs, teach and "usurp aithority (KJV)", because the verbs take their objects in different cases in Greek.
I appreciate you leaving this noteworthy comment, but I'm unfamiliar with Greek grammar and I'm not sure I follow you. What's your main point?
For deacons specifically, Romans 16:1 Paul refers to this women as a deacon.
Can you elaborate regarding women teaching in children's ministry, youth, women's ministry, or other areas? Curious to hear about that aspect of the church...
What do you think about women as worship leaders and those who speak ministering words throughout the worship on Sunday mornings.
Create a Christian culture.
In Gen. Regarding Abraham he is the authority of menservants while Sarah is the authority over maidservants and also her child Isaac. Based on this in addition to 1 Tim. 2:9-15 woman over women, man over men. But also examining Peter he says even that if the man be disobedient to God she must still prove her faith to her husband in the hope that her chastity would be an ensample for the her husband. Furthermore elder women must teach the young to love their husbands so this means women are for men as keepers of their homes and comfort. Tldr God judged Adam saying "because you listened to your wife and not me" then it is not lawful for a woman to have authority over man, how much more should she be subject to a faithful man.
My mom is a worship director and has been in charge of men who have either been as part of the worship set or those coordinating sound and projection, and I have told her already that I don't believe scripture supports her role in that position. As it has led to a lot of fights in the past, I don't bring it up very much anymore. My husband and I agree that if a woman is to be in leadership in any role in the church it should be strictly children's ministry and she should have male authority over her that she answers to for things like curriculum and doctrine that she teaches.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 1 Timothy 2:12 Paul, under the authority of God, forbids women to have authority over men. Simple as that. There are areas women can minister to each other in, as found in Titus 2:3-5. But to have authority over an adult male in any capacity is strictly forbidden.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 One question. Are you Catholic or Protestant?
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 that explains everything I need to know about you. I will not engage you in further conversation as you have forsaken God in favor of the traditions of man.
@@skeinofadifferentcolor2090 If you dont believe in traditions, how can you believe in bible? Dont you love other sheeps of Christ than they are in your own church?
Paul also wrote in this same chapter that men are to "lift holy hands" when they pray. I've never hear a teaching requiring men to do this. Also, Paul ends that chapter with women being "saved" or "preserved" through childbirth, and I've never heard any professional Christians making rules around that. To me it's obvious that Paul did not want women discipling men. That would be problematic then, and likely now. Today's churches are structured like business corporations, with much the same functions and departments. I personally don't have a problem with a competent woman "staff" supervising other "staff" in a specific departmental role within a religious non-profit corporation. Especially if the role is essential and no competent men are to be found.
They can, but they shouldn't be.
The modern church worships feminism implicitly, it's hard to push back against this ever present idol.
Yet, for the sake of healthy marriages and right relationships for our children we must unapologetically advocate for men to be men and women to be women in the traditional roles which Scripture lays out. We need to stop qualifying the high calling of motherhood with shout-outs to career women. We need to stop encouraging people to follow their heart wherever it leads. Instead, seek blessings from working out the roles which are born of God's instruction rather than feminists of the sexual revolution or pragmatists who seek worldly possessions as somehow more important than the proper upbringing of children by a loving, God-fearing mother.
The absurdity of women in leadership positions was clearly illustrated by the woman chair person attempting to speak in a position of authority over Saddleback's ordination of women pastors. The committee was tasked with judging the proper role of women in the pastorate as practiced by Saddleback all the while contradicting the same principle in the committee itself.
A premiere. Such a short time after finding your ministry. 💙
Good to see Protestants implementing teachings of the Bible!
i belong to a small local REFORMED church and started by a group of pp like 20 yrs ago when they were in their 20s, so we have the main Senior Pastor who started the church and also a woman preacher (who has the qualification from bible college) all these years. We also have female Deacons (aka "Deaconese"). Senior Pastor did explain as below and is this justifiable even that we are a small church of less than 150 in English congregation and about 400 in Chinese congregation.
""Regarding your other concern about women preachers, that is a valid concern, so it is important we clarify our position on this. We presume your concern arises from the reference to : "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet." Yet, we need to consider the context of this verse. The word “teach” here in its root form refers to "doctrine". It is right in saying that because doctrinal teaching came from men, as in the Bible was revealed to men, not women. Apostles are all men. Women are not supposed to come out with doctrine, nor she should have authority over a man. So in our church, we do not let woman assume the role of becoming an elder or pastor, in positions where she makes critical decisions in the form of leadership.
Yet, we allow women to teach the word. This is simply taken from: "But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head" . Now, in this verse, women are allowed to prophesy, and in today’s term, prophesying is seen as teaching also, as we don't see there is a need to prophetic prophesying anymore in the New Testament. People who prophesies now teach through the word. Yet, the clause here is that she must have her head covered, which figuratively means to do it in a woman-like and submissive way instead of a man-like instructional way. In our church, only Preacher J is a woman preacher. And she does it with grace and gentleness. Yet, most of the teaching role in our church are done by men, which is mainly Pastor himself."
Look at the lengths you must go to convolute simplistic language to suit your desired interpretation. That's exhausting.
If you need a dissertation on why you're permitted to do something, you're already not walking in authority required.
I agree with you. Question, what are your thoughts on a woman who has theological training, but relegates their teaching to only women in the church and that is their staff position?
This video where Pastor Webbon interviews Rachel Jankovik may answer your question: m.ruclips.net/video/P8ZGV_efLCE/видео.html
Amen.
Can women be Pastors? No, if you wish to honour the scriptures; yes, if you follow the teachings of false teachers.
What about having a female principal at a reformed ACCS Christian school? Not officially part of any church ministry.
Had Jesus wanted a woman in leadership He would have picked at least one woman to be one of the twelve, BUT HE DIDN'T!
I'd like some thoughts (including yours Pastor Joel) on a situation that happened at a church gathering recently, just to see if I'm overreacting or not:
One of my male friends will be preaching soon on 1 Tim 2:9-15, and a lady suggested that he run his sermon past her to see if it may be offensive to women in it's presentation/tone (she said it wasn't to check his theology).
This made me angry, as to me this seems like coercion, control, giving prejudice and favoritism to women, and elevating a woman to basically have authority over a male, and a male preacher. It seems from verses like the ones below that men should preach with all the authority given to them from God, and that will involve at times rebuking sharply and publicly people (including women), false teachers, like "moderates", feminists, and those who teach the commandments of men, such as "thou shall be nice" as if they were the commandments of God.
Am I overreacting?
Titus 2:15 (CSB) 15 Proclaim these things; encourage and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.
Titus 1:10-14 (CSB)
10 For there are many rebellious people, full of empty talk and deception, especially those from the circumcision party. 11 It is necessary to silence them; they are ruining entire households by teaching what they shouldn’t in order to get money dishonestly. 12 One of their very own prophets said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 This testimony is true. For this reason, rebuke them sharply, so that they may be sound in the faith 14 and may not pay attention to Jewish myths and the commands of people who reject the truth.
1 Timothy 5:19-21 (CSB)
19 Don’t accept an accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses. 20 Publicly rebuke those who sin, so that the rest will be afraid. 21 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels to observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing out of favoritism.
Wow… Gen 3:16 tells us this will be the case.
Yeah I know exactly what she's trying to do. They are more sensitive and want to police speech especially anything that they don't like. It's their nature. Don't go along with it.
@@TheSMEAC Gen 3:16 does seem describe what is happening above, and the usurping attitude of many women today:
Genesis 3:16 (ESV)
Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
but he shall rule over you.”
@@g00gle1sw4tchingme Thanks! I'll catch up with my friend later and encourage him not to give in to this request.
I would be more offended if this lady was given what she wanted. We have enough of a disposition towards waiting to change or control the men in our life without also being given the authority to do as we wish.
No. Seems to be a struggle with that dynamic in the secular realm as well 😬🤔
Under the influence of Satan, anything is possible; Pastors who untie the teachings of Jesus, women who fail to understand the teachings of St.Paul. Protestant came from lusting mind who couldn't control their desires for lust and wealth, whereas apostolic churches were established by the true disciples who remained in the teachings of Jesus according to John 8 31.
Question: What about a female children's director where some men are children's Sunday school teachers ? And would it make a difference if there were only women children's Sunday school teachers?
Get rid of the children’s ministry and bring the children to church with their parents.
Short answer: No
would it be okay for women to speak in general church conferences or teach in theological seminaries?
"Not to men" seems to be the answer Pastor Joel is preaching.
@@selohcin ok, but we read Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos,Junia seem to be a missionary and I assume she taught both men and women, Phoebe, etc. how would it fit perfectly that women are not to teach men if even outside regular church worship is prohibited?
No 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
I'm still not entirely sold on women being a deacon but the word deacon means assistant and there is scripture supporting the idea of a women deacon. I wonder what are the view points to that scripture in Roman's 16:1
John McArthur believes woman being deacons is a faithful handling of the texts, and I must say I have a hard time disagreeing with him. RC Sproul was supportive of woman deacons as well. It seems both from Scripture and common sense that there is an argument to made for it. I would not want a male deacon having to provide care for a female church member in certain circumstances such as physical care for them as an older widow in need of bathing and the like…far more fitting with all of Scripture in view for a woman to be doing such things and those are things that fit deacon ministry.
What about a business administration director?
No.
Do you guys know that there are entire nations of all kinds headed by women?? Female world leaders currently and historically have lead countries as varied as Great Britain, Finland, Denmark, Greece, Moldova, Estonia, Georgia, Ethiopia, Barbados, New Zealand, Iceland, Singapore, Serbia, Trinidad and Tobago, Taiwan, Myanmar, Nepal, Norway, Bangladesh and Germany!! It's such a shame that you don't see Christian women as capable of equal feats.
Those countries are great examples of nations in the process of committing cultural, financial, and political suicide.
@@ericthehalfmexican9187 Oh.. Well, actually many of these countries are regularly ranked as having the best standards of living in the world.. high life satisfaction, high levels of social and institutional trust, high-quality democratic institutions, extensive welfare benefits, and social-economic equality!
Could you give some examples of countries you feel are culturally, financially and politically succeeding??
@@aallen5256 All of those metrics are a bunch of woke garbage from from woke NGOs.
Europe and especially the EU being lead by Ursula von der Crazy are dying as we speak from their stupidity as they are running out of energy because they picked an economic fight with their energy supplier. They have sanctioned their own economies.
6:30 I though the Mike Pence model is where you promise and pretend that you are going to take action in defense of someone and the country for two weeks, then you back stab both them at the last minute.
What is maleness? (I don't think that will stump this guy.)
Aren’t there deaconesses in the Bible?
No
Rm. 16:1?
@@RGBNeves 1 Tim 3, but for context start back in 1 Tim 2:12-15
There is a difference between a “servant” and the office of deacon. The Greek word diakonos is also used all over the New Testament in the context of servant, but not to describe the office of deacon. For example, Romans 13:4 says that government is a minister or servant of God.
There is no prohibition by Paul for women to teach EXCEPT her own husband, CONTEXT is Adam and Eve meaning Husband and Wife. In Christ there is no male or female, so there is no gender in regards to the Anointing of God. You are clearly wrong.
Then why did Paul ask women should be silent in church? Are you not distorting the scriptures?
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 The CONTEXT is with Husbands and Wives, not men and women
@@kingdomfocus8059 May I tell you what is wrong with your understanding of new testament? Kindly listen. 1) Please understand Mathew 5:19 before you distort context to fit to your choice. 2) Kindly learn by heart all that Jesus taught, that means all the 4 Gospels.
Ridiculous topic smh
To an unregenerate heart, the word of God is always ridiculous.
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