This work is great, but I'd like to point out a few things. The situation of the Valley in those times was bassicaly a dispute between the two main succesors of the empire that created the chichimec Xolotl. Both dynasties Azcapotzalco and Texococo claimed to be his true heir, the Chichimecatecuhtli. After the demise of Ixtlilxóchitl one of his son half tepanec and acolhua occuped the throne of Texcoco. Tezozómoc did not really destroyed the acolhua nation. I mean, he was son of the tlatoani, like Nezahualcóyotl. So there could be a critical faction of texcocans unhappy when Nezahualcóyotl 'liberated' them and they didn't see him as the heir of the empire. That version of the history lost the war though. I think almost everything of the period between 1420-1425 about the story of Nazahualcóyotl is not possible. Wait, weren't there some many acolhuas that support Tezozómoc claims? What happened with they after the fall of the tepanecs? Well, when the spaniards asked to the natives of Acolman and Teotihuacan about they past they said: 'In the past, we were one nation with the tepanecs of Azcapotzalco. We did not know overlords, but we governed ourselves, until arrived Nezahualcoyotzin, lord of Texcoco, and with the help of Moctezuma the first, lord of Tenochtitlan, tyrannized the whole country.' (Relación de Acolman)
@@garrettingle6728 sorry, only seeing this now. Resources for what exactly? Learning nahuatl? Finding nahuatl poetry?
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This is what the Internet was built for!! As a Mexican I thank you for bringing this story to light. We all learn in elementary school a poem by Nezahualcóyotl around the third grade: I love the mockingbird's song Bird of four hundred voices I love the color of jade And the sweet aroma of flowers But most of all I love my brethren, men* Amo el canto de zenzontle pájaro de cuatrocientas voces, amo el color del jade y el enervante perfume de las flores, pero más amo a mi hermano; el hombre (*As in mankind)
My father was Aztec and Spanish 50/50 descendant and he considered himself to be 💯 percent Azteca and spoke Nahuatl. He gave all his children Aztec names, at a time when no one in Mexico wanted to be Indian. I remember how I was made fun of because of my name. As I grew up i new that because of my name I was different and i am grateful for that legacy. I conceder myself to be and indigenous woman.
Wonderful! Although I don't know his ancestry, Enrique Alferez was a well known artist from Mexico who later lived in New Orleans as well. His work is found all over N.O., including a large collection at the N.O. Museum of Art. He was a sculptor as well as a muralist & painter, his sculptures found across the city in public places & his incredible mural at the train station. He fought with Pancho Villa in the Mexican Revolution as a very young man. His drawings of Pancho Villa were included in a major exhibit of his work at a local museum about ten yrs ago, these & other works shown belonging to his daughter, Dr. Tlaloc Alferez. Dr. Tlaloc Alferez, who was my dr for some years & who is Enrique's only child, had lived with her parents in Mexico till around 1960, when the family moved to N.O. permanently. She is still a resident here, still in practice as a doctor. The point in telling you all this is to explain that it was common for revolutionaries to name their children after Aztec historical figures & sacred beings such as Tlaloc. But you probably knew this! Although I knew Dr. Tlaloc socially before she became my doctor, I don't know if her ancestry included Aztec/Mexica. But she has beautiful black hair & eyes so dark as to seem almost black, though her complexion is pale (her mother was of Euro-Am. ancestry & from N.O.). I'm sure that if you're interested you can find Enrique Alferez's artwork online. Most of his work features subjects common to the Mexican muralists such as Diego Rivera: historic subjects & events of the Mex. Revolutionary period as well as prehispanic peoples, histories, & sacred views.
in! my ancient Nahuatl poetry book does NOT have this poem read by Yan. it is so hard to find classical Nahuatl read aloud by competent speakers.. lagrimas.
@@TerribleShmeltingAccident if you wanna checkout a unknown mississippian site I made a video of one around my families land on my channel for a missouria tribe historian, its the only way I can help give back at the moment
This was completely fascinating. I especially loved reading Nezahualcoyotl's poetry, accompanied by the sounds of the words in the original Nahuatl- that was just beautifully done- a creative risk that really paid off. It's also great to see the elements of the story that may have been tweaked to appeal to a later Christian audience contextualised without being dismissed- great work.
If you gave us one long episode every single month that was as detailed and riveting and kept my attention going, surprising you with twists along the way just as this beautiful tale was told, I am absolutely certain that nit a single person would click away from the video because the way that you tell stories and the way that you tell history is something that most people in high school didn't get from their teachers. It's a breath of fresh air that you are the person who not only does the research on this, but also narrates and tells the story with his own excitement still within. Thank you so much! If you ever need to do anything on the Sioux, I'm currently learning Dakota language and know some Lakota, but I got pronunciation down-pat!
Amazing video for an amazing man! The history of the Valley of Mexico is very underappreciated. It’s understandable Fernando Ixtlilxochitl put their history on par with “the Greeks, Romans, and Medes”. Have you read his ‘History of the Chichimeca Nation’?
there is not 0.1% of surviving historical material surrounding the valley of mexico relative to the romans. would be awesome if there was, but comparing the "histories" as in tangible material is ludicrous.
I've been thinking about doing a video about this awesome story since forever! I'm so glad someone finally did it and that somebody being the best native american history channel
Great video! Thank you for this high quality content. Several of Nezahualcoyotl's traits reminded me of Pachacutec, founder of the Inca Empire. He was also a warrior, a king, a lawgiver and a poet. Some of his poems and sayings survived until our days too.
excellent video, I had head of Netzahualcoyotl on wiki binges years ago but never dove in to discover what an incredible character he is. What a leader!
Fun fact: 100 pesos bills have a tiny poem written by Nezahualcoyotl: I love the song of the mockingbird, Bird of four hundred voices, I love the color of the jadestone And the enervating perfume of flowers, But more than all I love my brother: man.
THIS IS AMAZING!! I once got into an argument with a friend. I was an archaeology major and he was political science. We were both in separate philosophy classes and he argued that the American philosophy was so under developed that is wasn't worth learning. I strongly disagreed but I had never heard of this amazing story until now! Thanks for making such an entertaining and informative video!
Thank you! There's a wealth of Aztec philosophy out there if you ever want to dig in. Also, I think it's worth noting that all people have philosophy. Its a part of the human condition. In my opinion there's correlation between a society's political, social or technological sophistication and their philosophical sophistication.
@@AncientAmericas doou have a good book recommendation or article regarding Aztec philosophy? I read Charles Mann 1491 and it touches on it a bit but isn't super thorough
@@eric1scooby I found this about a year ago and it's pretty detailed survey but even better, it has great references and additional reading suggestions. Give it a look. iep.utm.edu/aztec/
@@eric1scooby 1. Aztec Thought and Culture by Miguel León Portilla 2. Aztec Philosophy: Understanding a World in Motion by James Maffle 3. The Region of the Fleeting Moment: An Interpretation of Nahuatl Metaphysics in the Era of Conquest by James Maffle
This is such an awesome video, I've watched it three times now and it's totally riveting! Absolutely LOVE the Nahuatl narration (loved it in the Teotihuacan episode, too)! Thank you for covering these too-overlooked histories!
En Perú, la poesía inca era conocida como "harawi", que eran cantos dedicados a la tierra, la cosecha, el trabajo, y otras actividades diarias. Era en sí un género musical que combinaba poesía con canto. Aún hay algunos de ellos que aún se conservan. Cuando llegaron los españoles, este género se mezclo con las tradiciones trovadoras europeas, surgiendo los yaravies, cantos que expresan un enorme tristeza y melancolía, cantados tanto en español o en quechua. En sí estos aún se practican bastante, en especial en la sierra central y sur del Perú. En general, yo diría que varias de las tradiciones musicales quechua se han preservado en varios otros generos musicales practicados en los andes hoy en día, no solo con los yaravies, sino con otros geneŕos musicales como lo son el huayno o el chimaychi. Hay muchos más que seguro estoy omitiendo, pero estos son los más conocidos.
I find the story about Tloque Nahuaque and the empty temple beautiful and closer to a zen, direct approach to religion, which matches very well the spirit of his other actions in life as well. Thanks very much for the enlightening of one of the greatest human character of the last centuries. His story actually shares a great deal of light into the Mexican uprising story, and how the blood-thirsty behaviour of this group could became the heart and norm of an entire empire. You need the zen-master counterbalance on the secondary role (from our point of view) to make the story one worth of being retelled and fighted for.
I'm Mexican-American and obsessed with meso-American culture. I didn't know about Nezahualcoyotl until I started writing a novel based during the Spanish conquest of the Mexica (Aztec). My protagonist is an Alcolhua Princess who is the daughter of Cacamatzin and the great granddaughter of Nezahualcoyotl. And even though her father is related to Montezuma, she feels more proud of her ancestry from Nezahualcoyotl and makes it a point to tell the Spanish about him. The more I learn and write about the man's achievements the more I come to realize that he, not Montezuma and Cuauhtémoc should be lauded as a true hero of Mexico. Thanks for sharing this video!
I was transfixed by this outstanding biography! My standard US education regarding the Mesoamerican peoples pre-conquest is as if they existed only to construct fantastic ruins for us to climb all over on our vacations. And I am remiss for not making the major effort to learn more. Now, I have discovered your channel to make it easier to absorb the magnificent stories and provide "jumping off" points for further research such as more sources of info on this man and his world. After learning about his early life and rise to power and finally his effort to choose a successor, I couldn't help but feel glad he passed before the brutish, cruel and greedy Spanish conquistadors arrived and kicked open the door to the greatest genocide in human history.
What an amazing biography, even if it was embellished by his descendants, Nezahualcoyotl sounds like a man of integrity, at least by the standards of his day. I wish production houses would bring his life to the screen rather than confusing us with hybrid fiction like Game of Thrones. A powerful king who abided by judges that his apparently innocent son be executed? Fact is stranger than fiction! Well, historical personalities are more intriguing than ones invented for a TV audiences, I am pretty sure you know what I mean. Looking forward to what the 2022 season may bring!
This might be my favorite video so far. Maybe It's my personal bias for stuff about the Valley of Mexico, but I find this area and time period (right before and during the Triple Alliance) so unbelievably fascinating. I'd heard of Nezahualcoyotl before, but I didn't know a lot of the specifics, so this was a super informative watch!
Nice new video! So many buried stories and narratives lie beneath Mexico City. How I wish I could travel to the Valley of Mexico before the lake was filled in, or even in its mid-filled period in the 19th and early 20th centuries. What richness there was in the times of Nezahualcoyotl! "I love the song of the mockingbird, / bird of four hundred voices; / I love the sheen of jade / and the perfumes of flowers; / though more than all of these, I love /my fellow beings, humanity."
Also, I think there is now the thinking that a few of the poems attributed to Nezahualcoyotl may not have been penned by himself, but misattributed due to the confusion of how Aztec poets signed their work.. For some poems, using Nezahualcoyotl's name could have been a time/era stamp, like how the pre-modern Chinese dating system was based on the imperial/emperor's era name... I believe it wasn't too common to sign one's name directly. Although I could be wrong. Forget now where I read this.
That would have been an amazing this to see! And yes, I haven also read that the authorship on some of his poems are disputed. I really like your idea about his name being associated with the period. It definitely makes you wonder. Thank you! Can't wait to see you next video!
Thank you so much for doing this informational episodes. I was born and raised in Mexico city and, I have to say I am honored that someone is so adamant and passionate about sharing this info.
The Aztec culture was great with it's own philosophy, idea and state system. It's just suprising especially for people like me who are from other side of the planet and have zero knowledge about the Mezo American culture or society. Thank you for spreading such knowledge
Thank you so much for this incredible piece of work! This is coming from someone for whom Nezohualcoyotl was an inspiration for learning Nahuatl. You're doing absolutely fantastic work, as one of the best channels on RUclips. As Nezohualcoyotl's people say to this day, "Ome Teotl." (I was told this phrase is an expression of overwhelming admiration. Correct me if I'm wrong)
My interest in this part of the history of the Americas was kindled with reading Gary Jennings' series " Aztec ". Yours and other channels has helped to flesh out the narrative I began to be aware of with the reading of those books. Thanks for this information.
@@AncientAmericas hey have you thought about histories of the Navajo people? I'm sure you could have a field day with our tradings with the meshika and chaco puebloan people's
You can see the ruins of the palaces built by Nezahualcoyotl in the Mountain of Tetzcotzingo, there are baths, acueducts, and gardens. We consider Nezahualcoyotl as our Leonardo Da Vínci and Macquiavelo. Greetings from Mexico City
@@kimnorth7060 yes, they were carved in the surface of the mountain, and were partially destroyed bye spanish inquisition in XVI Century, their remains are still easy to observe
What a beautiful poem. I loved the narration as some others said it added an extra layer of depth. I was moved to tears at knowing that someone in such a far away place and time expressed something that I felt like I could connect to so deeply and almost instantly. What a wonderful way to express History and connect with the past.
@@AncientAmericas I'll have to donate, this was fantastic. I remember watching a modern marvels as a kid about Banos de nezahualcoyotl and I could never remember his name and after this story I'll never forget it.
I love learning about the ancient americas, but this video had me more captivated than most! Nezahualcoyote was such a cool person. Like, I'm near the videos end and I already know I'll be on his wiki page once it's over. I think the beauty of learning about ancient America for me is that, since I'm from the US, I only learned European history and since I was a school kid, I didn't like history and didn't appreciate it for what it was. Now that I'm older, my school systems inability to focus on other cultures has lead me to a deep and beautiful appreciation for the histories we weren't taught. I'm getting to hear them as an adult, who is able to appreciate history and the beauty of it. Idk, probably helps that I smoke weed while watching 😁❤💯💥💥
Ive seen Many of your videos, and Im never disappointed. Until now. Im not disappointed, I am BLOWN AWAY! This is the best video youve made regarding this specific subject matter . Hands down, the best. Bravo. Happy Indigenous Peoples month! 🤟🏽🤘🏽
I would appreciate being a witness to even one of these battles, the weaponry used had to have been wielded martially with skill. Obsidian is sharp but brittle, the warrior would have needed clever feinting and precision to avoid spoiling their edge. Also, I looked up the the word for the obsidian tipped spear in some of the art shown, the Tepoztopilli. Had to have been used deftly I am sure.
I love how the "most replayed" spot on this video's timeline is right after that second poem It's like the endless recitation of the first poem got people thinking "OK, you got me - I kept thinking that soon it would fade to a spoken English translation so I ended up listening to all of it but when I heard you dropping ANOTHER long-ass poem in a language I don't understand? No way - I am skipping that".
WOW! Thank you so much for bringing these very important accounts to people's attention. I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never even considered that indigenous people had left a record of their accomplishments but I am very impressed. Impressed with the history and impressed with your knowledge of it. Thank you so much!
I'll be the first to admit that five years ago, I was almost completely ignorant of all this so it's been a very rewarding journey to discover the wealth of knowledge and tradition that's out there.
From my understanding it is said that he didn't create all the laws, but was impressed by the "Aztec" laws but still found them to be lacking in some aspect and therefore he modify them, while other came from inspiration as he travel his lands incognito, as for no sacrifice there are stories of many rulers trying to but failing to get rid of sacrifice you could find them on olmecs, Mayan and other cultures, however usually something bad happens like drought or famine that force them to start sacrifice all over again,
I found this channel a few days ago and binged basically every video and shared them with nearly every one of my friends. thank u for making these great vids
I can't believe this fantastic channel as only just appeared in my recommendations. Im fascinated by all ancient history but the one area I know next to nothing about is the prehistory of the Americas. The videos I've watched so far I've thoroughly enjoyed and because I'm late in discovering 'Ancient Americas' I can binge watch the uploads. Subscribed.
Thank you for this great episode! I loved the Flower Tree poem! I love learning about this Ancient American History. Something that was sadly too often breezed by in grade school and high school.
What an interesting figure, I really wish there was a high-budget movie series or show that depicts his exploits and life. So many cinematic moments too, from the weeping father in his garden of prayer to the last surviving member of the original alliance crowning the next ruler. Seeing how his son was able to maintain his rule afterwards without being usurped is such a rare thing too, really a "happy ending" kind of story.
Absolutely fascinating history. Never read or heard of this person before. I really would like to believe that he sought to reform the religious practices of his people, that this wasn't something made up by later chroniclers just to make him look good. Rather depressing learning of all the political strife this man and the people around him had to endure and be a part of. Seems that wherever there are humans, there will be politics.
Fantastic! I first heard about Nezahualcoyotl through SUNN O)))), they use some of his stanza's in their song Between Sleipnir's Breaths. It was very interesting to learn more about him!
Nahuatl pronunciation is perfect ! great video! I may say that , indigenous cultures from Mexico , such as Olmecs , Mayans , Zapotecs , Aztecs , and some others , had different alphabets , numerical systems , and very advance knowledge in astronomy , mathematics, architects , biotechnology educational systems such as the school , Calmecac , and tepochcalli, and several other things , that indigenous people in south America such as Inca never achieved , no schools , no alphabets , no numerical systems , no astronomy , no math , and no several other things , This is very good video , the best I ever seen , very complete , and accurate Shame on the Spaniards that set fire to mountains of books For example Diego de Landa , bishop of Yucatán said that he set fire to a mountain of books , as big as the highest pyramid and took at least six months to extinguished itself Is perfect Nahuatl on the the narration , and very good idea to have also a native Nahuatl person speaking also Congratulations!
"no schools , no alphabets , no numerical systems , no astronomy , no math"? what the hell are you talking about? you only got it right about the alphabet, but they had other writing systems nonetheless. Of course, you cannot expect both native Mesoamericans and Southamericans to have been equally advanced in every department. For example, metallurgy was more advanced in the Inca empire, where bronze was manufactured at almost industrial scale and used not only for jewelry as in the Aztec empire, but also used for tools, weapons and armor.
Do you ever plan to explore mesoamerican mythology in a broad sense and general themes? I find it hard to understand these cultures in the same way I can the Greeks and Chinese because the later two can be seen via broad cultural framework of philosophy and religion.
We lost a lot of references with the loss of those cultures. And recent discoveries are giving us new insights. FYI, the Eastern Woodland culture was not just hunter gatherers. New evidence shows they domesticated turkey and deer. And before even the corn growing culture was introduced to them from the south they were planting seed bearing plants,etc.
@@AncientAmericas It will be amazing to see the visual representation of mesoamerica from this time. Apocalipto, despite all it's inaccuracies, it's a great example of what's possible.
This work is great, but I'd like to point out a few things. The situation of the Valley in those times was bassicaly a dispute between the two main succesors of the empire that created the chichimec Xolotl. Both dynasties Azcapotzalco and Texococo claimed to be his true heir, the Chichimecatecuhtli.
After the demise of Ixtlilxóchitl one of his son half tepanec and acolhua occuped the throne of Texcoco. Tezozómoc did not really destroyed the acolhua nation. I mean, he was son of the tlatoani, like Nezahualcóyotl.
So there could be a critical faction of texcocans unhappy when Nezahualcóyotl 'liberated' them and they didn't see him as the heir of the empire. That version of the history lost the war though. I think almost everything of the period between 1420-1425 about the story of Nazahualcóyotl is not possible.
Wait, weren't there some many acolhuas that support Tezozómoc claims? What happened with they after the fall of the tepanecs? Well, when the spaniards asked to the natives of Acolman and Teotihuacan about they past they said:
'In the past, we were one nation with the tepanecs of Azcapotzalco.
We did not know overlords, but we governed ourselves, until arrived Nezahualcoyotzin, lord of Texcoco, and with the help of Moctezuma the first, lord of Tenochtitlan, tyrannized the whole country.' (Relación de Acolman)
Thanks for the clarification!
@@AncientAmericas pin his comment
@@Pwnulolumad good call. Done!
@@Pwnulolumad Gracias por valolarlo.
Seemed like sort of Democratic Republic which became a Kingdom/Empire as has happened through eons everywhere.
As a mexican, obsessed with mesoamerican culture, this is the kind of content that i treasure. Thank you, sincerely
You're welcome!
As a Nordic Mutt American i love this
Guatemalan and love my history too.
Gracias 💫🇲🇽
@@Gekumatz Mexica weren’t in Guatemala
The nahuatl narration added so much beauty to this video, I love that there's a channel i can show my English speaking friends about these subjects
Are there many resources elsewhere?
@@garrettingle6728 sorry, only seeing this now. Resources for what exactly? Learning nahuatl? Finding nahuatl poetry?
This is what the Internet was built for!!
As a Mexican I thank you for bringing this story to light. We all learn in elementary school a poem by Nezahualcóyotl around the third grade:
I love the mockingbird's song
Bird of four hundred voices
I love the color of jade
And the sweet aroma of flowers
But most of all I love my brethren,
men*
Amo el canto de zenzontle
pájaro de cuatrocientas voces,
amo el color del jade
y el enervante perfume de las flores,
pero más amo a mi hermano;
el hombre
(*As in mankind)
@ es que se le olvidó escribir la última oración:
Pero amo más la sangre de mis enemigos.
No te creas.
@Diego Kaled Bitar Flores ( ¬ ¬)
My father was Aztec and Spanish 50/50 descendant and he considered himself to be 💯 percent Azteca and spoke Nahuatl. He gave all his children Aztec names, at a time when no one in Mexico wanted to be Indian. I remember how I was made fun of because of my name. As I grew up i new that because of my name I was different and i am grateful for that legacy. I conceder myself to be and indigenous woman.
Carry that name with pride!
What part of Mexico are U from?
Sounds like he was in denial a bit... He was a mestizo, after all.
Always carry your name with pride. When I was a kid I didnt like my name but now I proudly use it, even for tabletop rpgs some time lol
Wonderful!
Although I don't know his ancestry, Enrique Alferez was a well known artist from Mexico who later lived in New Orleans as well. His work is found all over N.O., including a large collection at the N.O. Museum of Art. He was a sculptor as well as a muralist & painter, his sculptures found across the city in public places & his incredible mural at the train station.
He fought with Pancho Villa in the Mexican Revolution as a very young man. His drawings of Pancho Villa were included in a major exhibit of his work at a local museum about ten yrs ago, these & other works shown belonging to his daughter, Dr. Tlaloc Alferez. Dr. Tlaloc Alferez, who was my dr for some years & who is Enrique's only child, had lived with her parents in Mexico till around 1960, when the family moved to N.O. permanently. She is still a resident here, still in practice as a doctor.
The point in telling you all this is to explain that it was common for revolutionaries to name their children after Aztec historical figures & sacred beings such as Tlaloc. But you probably knew this! Although I knew Dr. Tlaloc socially before she became my doctor, I don't know if her ancestry included Aztec/Mexica. But she has beautiful black hair & eyes so dark as to seem almost black, though her complexion is pale (her mother was of Euro-Am. ancestry & from N.O.).
I'm sure that if you're interested you can find Enrique Alferez's artwork online. Most of his work features subjects common to the Mexican muralists such as Diego Rivera: historic subjects & events of the Mex. Revolutionary period as well as prehispanic peoples, histories, & sacred views.
This is probably the most interesting historical figure I've heard of on a long time, definitely deserving of more mainstream attention
The poems are fire too
here in Mexico he’s pretty well known, but I guess that’s expected…
i eat tortas at a fast food restaurant called Neza’s xd
La historia de tlahuicole a mi también me asombra deberías investigar más sobre el creo que su historia da para mucho.
@@AtomicWizard527 Mexico is such an amazing country. Ive been a few times and am in love with your country. Greetings from Texas
I want the Nahuatl-language HBO series adaptation of this to exist SO BADLY.
You and me both.
Seconded, thirded.
Fourthed.
in!
my ancient Nahuatl poetry book does NOT have this poem read by Yan. it is so hard to find classical Nahuatl read aloud by competent speakers.. lagrimas.
Wtf is wrong with your username tho
This is like Dune and Game of Thrones mashed up, but in real history. One of my favourite historical figures. Thanks for this video!
You're welcome!
I dont need to sleep, i need to hear the history of nezahualcoyotl once more, (that was the name of my "highschool") xD
Sweet name for a school!
But didn't you rest soundly knowing that he exacted revenge and reclaimed his rightful role as Ruler of the Valley? I know I will tonight 😴
I am from Texcoco, the high school where I studied also has the name of Nezahualcóyotl.
Nothing but respect bro, to hear an English speaker say these Nahuatl names and words is awesome.
Thank you. It took a lot of practice.
As a Mexican, I greatly appreciate this videos!!! Felices vacaciones! O días de descanso!!
Thank you!
Tictlahtoa Mexicatlahtolli?
Then go back to Mexico and fix it
"On those of noble blood a heavier responsibility rests than on a villager"
an idea that has been completely lost in modern society
Yes. You don't see
monuments to "The Unknown Civilian"
To be noble in alot of Mexican cultures ment you had to cut your nether regions in public so maybe they were on to something lol
I disagree, we are starting to remember our heritage 👽
@@TerribleShmeltingAccident if you wanna checkout a unknown mississippian site I made a video of one around my families land on my channel for a missouria tribe historian, its the only way I can help give back at the moment
Noblesse Oblige, as the French aristocrats used to say.
Just what the doctor orderd. A new video from Ancient Americas happy days.
Thank you!
@@AncientAmericas your welcome.
This was completely fascinating. I especially loved reading Nezahualcoyotl's poetry, accompanied by the sounds of the words in the original Nahuatl- that was just beautifully done- a creative risk that really paid off. It's also great to see the elements of the story that may have been tweaked to appeal to a later Christian audience contextualised without being dismissed- great work.
Thank you!
We are so spoiled by these videos. Thanks for them they're great.
You're welcome!
If you gave us one long episode every single month that was as detailed and riveting and kept my attention going, surprising you with twists along the way just as this beautiful tale was told, I am absolutely certain that nit a single person would click away from the video because the way that you tell stories and the way that you tell history is something that most people in high school didn't get from their teachers. It's a breath of fresh air that you are the person who not only does the research on this, but also narrates and tells the story with his own excitement still within. Thank you so much! If you ever need to do anything on the Sioux, I'm currently learning Dakota language and know some Lakota, but I got pronunciation down-pat!
Thank you!
Amazing video for an amazing man! The history of the Valley of Mexico is very underappreciated. It’s understandable Fernando Ixtlilxochitl put their history on par with “the Greeks, Romans, and Medes”. Have you read his ‘History of the Chichimeca Nation’?
Thank you! No, I have not yet read his history of the chichimeca.
there is not 0.1% of surviving historical material surrounding the valley of mexico relative to the romans. would be awesome if there was, but comparing the "histories" as in tangible material is ludicrous.
Chichimecas were not a Nation but a confederation of tribes.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 There probably was at the time of Fernando however.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 nah youre plain wrong
I've been thinking about doing a video about this awesome story since forever! I'm so glad someone finally did it and that somebody being the best native american history channel
Thank you. You flatter me good sir.
_when he rapped ohuaya, ohuaya_
*I felt that*
I didn’t want the episode to end! 😭 There’s so much history that we normally don’t get exposed to as Americans/United Statesians.
Enjoy your holidays!
Thank you!
Amazing how so much history has been been right under our noses this whole time. Mexico is so close yet so far
Stop trying to make united statesians a thing
Great video! Thank you for this high quality content. Several of Nezahualcoyotl's traits reminded me of Pachacutec, founder of the Inca Empire. He was also a warrior, a king, a lawgiver and a poet. Some of his poems and sayings survived until our days too.
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excellent video, I had head of Netzahualcoyotl on wiki binges years ago but never dove in to discover what an incredible character he is. What a leader!
Thank you! Always nice to see you in the comments again!
This guy needs his own movie
A mexican 2-D animated movie about nezahualcoyotl was going to be produced... unfortunally, it was years ago
Fun fact: 100 pesos bills have a tiny poem written by Nezahualcoyotl:
I love the song of the mockingbird,
Bird of four hundred voices,
I love the color of the jadestone
And the enervating perfume of flowers,
But more than all I love my brother: man.
That poem did wasn't made by Nezahualcoyotl though, is a modern nahuatl poem
THIS IS AMAZING!! I once got into an argument with a friend. I was an archaeology major and he was political science. We were both in separate philosophy classes and he argued that the American philosophy was so under developed that is wasn't worth learning. I strongly disagreed but I had never heard of this amazing story until now! Thanks for making such an entertaining and informative video!
Thank you! There's a wealth of Aztec philosophy out there if you ever want to dig in. Also, I think it's worth noting that all people have philosophy. Its a part of the human condition. In my opinion there's correlation between a society's political, social or technological sophistication and their philosophical sophistication.
@@AncientAmericas doou have a good book recommendation or article regarding Aztec philosophy? I read Charles Mann 1491 and it touches on it a bit but isn't super thorough
@@eric1scooby I found this about a year ago and it's pretty detailed survey but even better, it has great references and additional reading suggestions. Give it a look.
iep.utm.edu/aztec/
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1. Aztec Thought and Culture by Miguel León Portilla
2. Aztec Philosophy: Understanding a World in Motion by James Maffle
3. The Region of the Fleeting Moment: An Interpretation of Nahuatl Metaphysics in the
Era of Conquest by James Maffle
"-When the war is over, their splendor shall be yours." Just send shivers down my spine! So good!
Dude yes! I think this might be the first video on him I've heard of that's in English. Thank you so much
You're welcome!
This is such an awesome video, I've watched it three times now and it's totally riveting!
Absolutely LOVE the Nahuatl narration (loved it in the Teotihuacan episode, too)!
Thank you for covering these too-overlooked histories!
Thank you!
The inclusion of that poetry was great! Hearing it read was moving
Nahuatl is such an incredibly beautiful language.
Yes it is!
En Perú, la poesía inca era conocida como "harawi", que eran cantos dedicados a la tierra, la cosecha, el trabajo, y otras actividades diarias. Era en sí un género musical que combinaba poesía con canto. Aún hay algunos de ellos que aún se conservan. Cuando llegaron los españoles, este género se mezclo con las tradiciones trovadoras europeas, surgiendo los yaravies, cantos que expresan un enorme tristeza y melancolía, cantados tanto en español o en quechua. En sí estos aún se practican bastante, en especial en la sierra central y sur del Perú. En general, yo diría que varias de las tradiciones musicales quechua se han preservado en varios otros generos musicales practicados en los andes hoy en día, no solo con los yaravies, sino con otros geneŕos musicales como lo son el huayno o el chimaychi. Hay muchos más que seguro estoy omitiendo, pero estos son los más conocidos.
Muy interesante! Gracias!
Flower and Song ❤
Your timing is always impeccable, just finished an all-nighter and need some decompression before a nap haha
Congrats on pulling through. I finished my masters thesis last Monday and towards the end, I was so tired I didn't really care anymore haha
Yuk. All nighters are real rough. Glad I gave you a good note to end on.
@@martinn.6082 I relate! Just starting but man I can’t imagine the end after this year 😬
@@AncientAmericas honestly it’s always a pleasant surprise to see your uploads!
Thanks for the poems, read in the beautiful Nahuatl language! I could hear it all day, it's a balm for the ears!
I find the story about Tloque Nahuaque and the empty temple beautiful and closer to a zen, direct approach to religion, which matches very well the spirit of his other actions in life as well. Thanks very much for the enlightening of one of the greatest human character of the last centuries. His story actually shares a great deal of light into the Mexican uprising story, and how the blood-thirsty behaviour of this group could became the heart and norm of an entire empire. You need the zen-master counterbalance on the secondary role (from our point of view) to make the story one worth of being retelled and fighted for.
I'm Mexican-American and obsessed with meso-American culture. I didn't know about Nezahualcoyotl until I started writing a novel based during the Spanish conquest of the Mexica (Aztec). My protagonist is an Alcolhua Princess who is the daughter of Cacamatzin and the great granddaughter of Nezahualcoyotl. And even though her father is related to Montezuma, she feels more proud of her ancestry from Nezahualcoyotl and makes it a point to tell the Spanish about him. The more I learn and write about the man's achievements the more I come to realize that he, not Montezuma and Cuauhtémoc should be lauded as a true hero of Mexico. Thanks for sharing this video!
Best comment I've seen in awhile! That's awesome!
I was transfixed by this outstanding biography! My standard US education regarding the Mesoamerican peoples pre-conquest is as if they existed only to construct fantastic ruins for us to climb all over on our vacations. And I am remiss for not making the major effort to learn more. Now, I have discovered your channel to make it easier to absorb the magnificent stories and provide "jumping off" points for further research such as more sources of info on this man and his world. After learning about his early life and rise to power and finally his effort to choose a successor, I couldn't help but feel glad he passed before the brutish, cruel and greedy Spanish conquistadors arrived and kicked open the door to the greatest genocide in human history.
Oh yeah I’m staying up all night to watch this!
What an amazing biography, even if it was embellished by his descendants, Nezahualcoyotl sounds like a man of integrity, at least by the standards of his day. I wish production houses would bring his life to the screen rather than confusing us with hybrid fiction like Game of Thrones. A powerful king who abided by judges that his apparently innocent son be executed? Fact is stranger than fiction! Well, historical personalities are more intriguing than ones invented for a TV audiences, I am pretty sure you know what I mean. Looking forward to what the 2022 season may bring!
Thank you! Mesoamerica is a untapped well of possiblities for entertainment.
This might be my favorite video so far. Maybe It's my personal bias for stuff about the Valley of Mexico, but I find this area and time period (right before and during the Triple Alliance) so unbelievably fascinating. I'd heard of Nezahualcoyotl before, but I didn't know a lot of the specifics, so this was a super informative watch!
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I always love to see your videos! Incredibly informative and 10x better than most stuff you have to pay for.
Thank you!
Not enough history channels put focus on pre Colombian American history like this. Bravo!
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Nice new video! So many buried stories and narratives lie beneath Mexico City. How I wish I could travel to the Valley of Mexico before the lake was filled in, or even in its mid-filled period in the 19th and early 20th centuries. What richness there was in the times of Nezahualcoyotl! "I love the song of the mockingbird, / bird of four hundred voices; / I love the sheen of jade / and the perfumes of flowers; / though more than all of these, I love /my fellow beings, humanity."
Also, I think there is now the thinking that a few of the poems attributed to Nezahualcoyotl may not have been penned by himself, but misattributed due to the confusion of how Aztec poets signed their work.. For some poems, using Nezahualcoyotl's name could have been a time/era stamp, like how the pre-modern Chinese dating system was based on the imperial/emperor's era name... I believe it wasn't too common to sign one's name directly. Although I could be wrong. Forget now where I read this.
That would have been an amazing this to see! And yes, I haven also read that the authorship on some of his poems are disputed. I really like your idea about his name being associated with the period. It definitely makes you wonder. Thank you!
Can't wait to see you next video!
Thank you so much for doing this informational episodes. I was born and raised in Mexico city and, I have to say I am honored that someone is so adamant and passionate about sharing this info.
Heck yeah, Your videos are so informative and well put together! I always look forward to watching them!
Thank you!
Wow, my favourite historical figure! Let's go!
The Aztec culture was great with it's own philosophy, idea and state system. It's just suprising especially for people like me who are from other side of the planet and have zero knowledge about the Mezo American culture or society. Thank you for spreading such knowledge
This is an amazing piece of history. Thanks for all your effort. Really enjoyable.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this incredible piece of work! This is coming from someone for whom Nezohualcoyotl was an inspiration for learning Nahuatl. You're doing absolutely fantastic work, as one of the best channels on RUclips. As Nezohualcoyotl's people say to this day, "Ome Teotl." (I was told this phrase is an expression of overwhelming admiration. Correct me if I'm wrong)
Thank you so much. My Nahuatl knowledge is pretty limited but I'm touched by your compliment nonetheless.
My interest in this part of the history of the Americas was kindled with reading Gary Jennings' series " Aztec ". Yours and other channels has helped to flesh out the narrative I began to be aware of with the reading of those books. Thanks for this information.
You're welcome!
“Aztec” is a great book.. I’ve read it twice! Gotta love Mixtli
@@AncientAmericas hey have you thought about histories of the Navajo people? I'm sure you could have a field day with our tradings with the meshika and chaco puebloan people's
@@shiverarts8284 someday!
You can see the ruins of the palaces built by Nezahualcoyotl in the Mountain of Tetzcotzingo, there are baths, acueducts, and gardens. We consider Nezahualcoyotl as our Leonardo Da Vínci and Macquiavelo. Greetings from Mexico City
I hope I see it for myself someday.
Did they have idols ?
@@kimnorth7060 yes, they were carved in the surface of the mountain, and were partially destroyed bye spanish inquisition in XVI Century, their remains are still easy to observe
@@arturoguerra6429 are there videos?
What a beautiful poem. I loved the narration as some others said it added an extra layer of depth. I was moved to tears at knowing that someone in such a far away place and time expressed something that I felt like I could connect to so deeply and almost instantly. What a wonderful way to express History and connect with the past.
Very cool video, thanks
This needs to be a series with adequate funding this is one of the greatest stories I've ever heard.
Thank you! We got a Patreon if you'd like to contribute to funding!
@@AncientAmericas I'll have to donate, this was fantastic. I remember watching a modern marvels as a kid about Banos de nezahualcoyotl and I could never remember his name and after this story I'll never forget it.
Great Job, I born and live in Mexico, not even mexican chanels treat The Poet Prince like you do, tk
Thank you!
It's crazy that you're averaging a video a month given the length and quality of the videos. Keep up the good work! 💪
I'd say more like a video every 4-6 weeks. Each one is different and some take longer than others.
Thanks for the context really helps being it to life for me
Don't mention it!
I love learning about the ancient americas, but this video had me more captivated than most! Nezahualcoyote was such a cool person. Like, I'm near the videos end and I already know I'll be on his wiki page once it's over.
I think the beauty of learning about ancient America for me is that, since I'm from the US, I only learned European history and since I was a school kid, I didn't like history and didn't appreciate it for what it was. Now that I'm older, my school systems inability to focus on other cultures has lead me to a deep and beautiful appreciation for the histories we weren't taught. I'm getting to hear them as an adult, who is able to appreciate history and the beauty of it. Idk, probably helps that I smoke weed while watching 😁❤💯💥💥
Ive seen Many of your videos, and Im never disappointed. Until now. Im not disappointed, I am BLOWN AWAY! This is the best video youve made regarding this specific subject matter . Hands down, the best. Bravo. Happy Indigenous Peoples month! 🤟🏽🤘🏽
Thank you!
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I would appreciate being a witness to even one of these battles, the weaponry used had to have been wielded martially with skill. Obsidian is sharp but brittle, the warrior would have needed clever feinting and precision to avoid spoiling their edge. Also, I looked up the the word for the obsidian tipped spear in some of the art shown, the Tepoztopilli. Had to have been used deftly I am sure.
This story amazes me and is incredible and sad on how much stories are out there and how many will never be able to know
I only knew he was a poet king. This video really elaborated as to why he was such a great leader.
Thanks for teaching the history of our continents that public schools won't.
My pleasure!
Incredible informative, and well-put together video!
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Im almost 50 yo and never heard about that, we need to show this kind of things! Greetings for your job!
I love how the "most replayed" spot on this video's timeline is right after that second poem It's like the endless recitation of the first poem got people thinking "OK, you got me - I kept thinking that soon it would fade to a spoken English translation so I ended up listening to all of it but when I heard you dropping ANOTHER long-ass poem in a language I don't understand? No way - I am skipping that".
WOW! Thank you so much for bringing these very important accounts to people's attention. I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never even considered that indigenous people had left a record of their accomplishments but I am very impressed. Impressed with the history and impressed with your knowledge of it. Thank you so much!
I'll be the first to admit that five years ago, I was almost completely ignorant of all this so it's been a very rewarding journey to discover the wealth of knowledge and tradition that's out there.
Excellent episode, as always. Enjoy your vacation, take as much time as you need!
Thank you!
Thank you for a very informative and enlightening episode !
You're welcome!
This is a hugely informative channel and I am delighted to have discovered it. I hope you grow from strength to strength.
Thank you!
From my understanding it is said that he didn't create all the laws, but was impressed by the "Aztec" laws but still found them to be lacking in some aspect and therefore he modify them, while other came from inspiration as he travel his lands incognito, as for no sacrifice there are stories of many rulers trying to but failing to get rid of sacrifice you could find them on olmecs, Mayan and other cultures, however usually something bad happens like drought or famine that force them to start sacrifice all over again,
I found this channel a few days ago and binged basically every video and shared them with nearly every one of my friends. thank u for making these great vids
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All your stuff is so interesting!❤️❤️❤️
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Wonderful philosophies, ideals, idealizations, points of views, outlooks, perspectives, opinions, thoughts, thinking processes and more yeah
I can't believe this fantastic channel as only just appeared in my recommendations. Im fascinated by all ancient history but the one area I know next to nothing about is the prehistory of the Americas.
The videos I've watched so far I've thoroughly enjoyed and because I'm late in discovering
'Ancient Americas' I can binge watch the uploads. Subscribed.
Thank you! Stay tuned for a new episode coming soon!
Thank you for your amazing work on this treasure during these trying times. Have a great break and I wish future good fortune for next year.
Thank you!!
Thank you for this great episode! I loved the Flower Tree poem! I love learning about this Ancient American History. Something that was sadly too often breezed by in grade school and high school.
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What an interesting figure, I really wish there was a high-budget movie series or show that depicts his exploits and life. So many cinematic moments too, from the weeping father in his garden of prayer to the last surviving member of the original alliance crowning the next ruler. Seeing how his son was able to maintain his rule afterwards without being usurped is such a rare thing too, really a "happy ending" kind of story.
Wouldn't that be rad?
Absolutely fascinating history. Never read or heard of this person before. I really would like to believe that he sought to reform the religious practices of his people, that this wasn't something made up by later chroniclers just to make him look good.
Rather depressing learning of all the political strife this man and the people around him had to endure and be a part of. Seems that wherever there are humans, there will be politics.
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Where has THIS story been?! Thank you for posting and mentioning other RUclipsrs as well
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I missed getting a notification for this one! Thank you for these longer episodes I really love them
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic! I first heard about Nezahualcoyotl through SUNN O)))), they use some of his stanza's in their song Between Sleipnir's Breaths. It was very interesting to learn more about him!
Thank you!
havent listened to Sunn in 20 years.. wasnt i to Nahuatl then, gona have to get back into long drone records
just listened. its translated to english and i could only hear the word flower.. but the record is good and im glad for the reminder.
I recognized that voice! Yan Garcia, nice to have your reading on here.
The man, the legend!
I had read some of his poetry. I did not know much about him. Thanks.
Thanks! Fascinating.
Thank you!
A great video! It was also great to include the poems in their native language!
Thank you! Poetry should always be sung in it's native tongue.
Nahuatl pronunciation is perfect ! great video!
I may say that , indigenous cultures from Mexico , such as Olmecs , Mayans , Zapotecs , Aztecs , and some others , had different alphabets , numerical systems , and very advance knowledge in astronomy , mathematics, architects , biotechnology educational systems such as the school , Calmecac , and tepochcalli, and several other things , that indigenous people in south America such as Inca never achieved , no schools , no alphabets , no numerical systems , no astronomy , no math , and no several other things ,
This is very good video , the best I ever seen , very complete , and accurate
Shame on the Spaniards that set fire to mountains of books
For example Diego de Landa , bishop of Yucatán said that he set fire to a mountain of books , as big as the highest pyramid and took at least six months to extinguished itself
Is perfect Nahuatl on the the narration , and very good idea to have also a native Nahuatl person speaking also
Congratulations!
Thank you!
"no schools , no alphabets , no numerical systems , no astronomy , no math"? what the hell are you talking about? you only got it right about the alphabet, but they had other writing systems nonetheless. Of course, you cannot expect both native Mesoamericans and Southamericans to have been equally advanced in every department. For example, metallurgy was more advanced in the Inca empire, where bronze was manufactured at almost industrial scale and used not only for jewelry as in the Aztec empire, but also used for tools, weapons and armor.
Do you ever plan to explore mesoamerican mythology in a broad sense and general themes? I find it hard to understand these cultures in the same way I can the Greeks and Chinese because the later two can be seen via broad cultural framework of philosophy and religion.
I've already covered the popul Vuh and I do want to cover more mythology in the future.
We lost a lot of references with the loss of those cultures. And recent discoveries are giving us new insights. FYI, the Eastern Woodland culture was not just hunter gatherers. New evidence shows they domesticated turkey and deer. And before even the corn growing culture was introduced to them from the south they were planting seed bearing plants,etc.
The school I went to as a kid in mexico was named after him.
This biography would make an amazing series of novels. Another great episode! Thanks!
Yes it would!
By far my favorite video from your channel, I’ve probably been 1/3 of your views from the amount of time ive seen this video 😅
Well in that case, I owe you a LOT of thanks!
Really good! Thank you.
Thank you!
This guy deserves his own HBO show.
There's a lot of people from that time who could have their own show!
@@AncientAmericas It will be amazing to see the visual representation of mesoamerica from this time. Apocalipto, despite all it's inaccuracies, it's a great example of what's possible.
@@viktor_vaughn Agreed. I have many beefs with Apocalypto but it is a tantalizing glimpse of what a big studio could do.
This channel is fantastic. Thanks for all the hard work. And awesome well researched content. Real factual history is hard to come by.
Thank you!
There's a city in the state of Mexico called Nezahualcoyotl, lot of great rock music came out of that beautiful barrio in the 70's
I am ashamed that I live in America and know so little about the ancient inhabitants of this region
I've been there too.
Absolutely love the video the quality is insanely good
Thank you so much!
Excellent content as always! Enjoy your time off. Looking forward to seeing what's next!
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You make me so happy with these videos man! This is so awesome thank you so much!!!
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Very digestible , clear . Thank you.
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Neza's story sounds like a movie 💯💯💯
These presentations are great! Thank you!
Thank you!