A Thorough, Honest Assessment of the NASCAR Next Gen Car
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-host Mike Davis sit down with NASCAR driver Austin Dillon and Dr. Eric Warren, Director of NASCAR Programs for Chevrolet, for a candid discussion about the NASCAR Next Gen car that is set to launch in 2022.
This new racecar marks the beginning of a new era in NASCAR. With the new chassis comes a pile of questions, uncertainty, fear, and doubt. Earnhardt and Davis waste no time addressing the big topics of concern about the newly designed chassis. Warren, who spearheaded much of Chevrolet's involvement in the development of the Next Gen car, brings us inside the decisions and the intricate details from development to production of this state-of-the-art machine. Dillon, well, he's been behind the wheel of the Next Gen in test sessions. He brings a unique perspective from the driver's seat of the new-age stock car.
Speaking of stock... this thing sure looks stock! Chevrolet and Richard Childress Racing brought one of the sleek Next Gen cars to the Studio so the gang could see it first hand. Warren and Earnhardt discuss the importance of the design and the street look of this Camaro racer.
The testing of the Next Gen car hasn't been 100-percent smooth. A crash by William Byron early in testing helped the design team learn about the behavior of the new design. What happened during the wreck and how did the car react to the heavy impact? Is the racecar too rigid? Warren addresses the rumor mill surrounding the Talladega crash test and talks about the changes in development that are designed to lessen the impact on the driver.
Dale Jr. tested the NASCAR Next Gen car at North Carolina's Bowman Gray Stadium. He shares his experience with Dillon and the two bring their thoughts from the cockpit to the table. Is the steering lock an issue? What is it like to drive with a sequential shifter? What about the limited split differential? And are their legitimate concerns of extreme cockpit temperatures, that at one test session reached a sweltering 170 degrees, an issue that is being resolved? Dillon also gives Dale Jr. first-hand accounts of how the Next Gen car will perform in the draft at the Superspeedways.
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Man, I wish NASCAR could actually talk like this to the fans and not spit out the same generic stuff to hope everyone will understand. I feel these 26 minutes have made me understand the Next Gen car way more than before.
Eh I feel like Nascar's been pretty transparent with Next Gen testing
Matt, I totally agree… I’ve been a fan for 3 decades and have never heard this kind of technical talk. Not even on SpeedTV. This was AWESOME to hear!
I admit I don’t listen to all the podcasts, maybe I should if they discuss this level of detail.
@@realrasher the problem is weeding out the 1s that do and the 1s that dont. For sure cant go wrong listening to Dale
Generic talk for the generic fan. You want more in depth analysis you need to seek it out witch you have.
Clint Bowyer hears all the complaints about the heat in the cars and goes:
'Glad I retired when I did.'
I wonder about the strength of the front suspension. During the LA event and at Daytona seems cars had suspension arm or uprights break when the old car would have survived.
When would you be taking the next gen car to the rock? Alot has been going on out there as of late. Would be great to see the new car at speedway speeds
I really hope they're awesome but the 550 HP package continuing sucks
Hopefully it races completely different than the current 550
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT You've got to be kidding me. The cars look and sound so much slower in person at the 550 tracks (Imagine that, slowing the cars down by 25-30 MPH and turning 1000 RPM less is noticeable)
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT with more grip (more downforce with under car aero and wider tires) and the same 550/disgustingly large spoiler it’s going to be just as bad, season one will literally only be interesting because cars may be unstable until they figure it out, once they do it’ll be awful…
Yeah, absolutely no excuse for a 358ci engine to run less than 730hp and 9000rpm on the stroke length and rod ratio that they have. 1.36 to 1.43 lb-ft per cubic inch, or in other words, 83-87 lb-ft per liter, multiplied by however much above 5252 that peak power happens is what the cars should be making, with redline roughly 1000-1500rpm above that.
So my numbers stem from the low side of the torque range and a 7900rpm peak power. Keeping the peak the same but going with the torque range's high side, we're talking 770hp. If we raise peak power to 8400 (9600-ish redline), now we're talking 780-820hp at the crank. Still down from the supposed 920hp 2014 cars, but much closer to where we need to be, especially compared to a pathetic 550hp.
550hp should be an entry-series limit for the grassroots short-track guys.
Hopefully it creates better racing but More Horsepower, Put The Number Decals back in the middle of the door.
Thats not going to happen sponsors want the room and they pay the bills
The Sponsors are SCUM nuff said !!! - This is a dumb decision
cry about it.
I want Nascar to open up the entire door panel for number placement and let teams work it out with their sponsors as to where the number is and where sponsor logos are on the door panel, give the cars a bit more visual variety.
Man one thing about the CoT was it was really solid car, you really could beat and rub with that car. Gordon's 2011 Pheonix win stands out big time. Pounded the right side and still went up a took the lead late to win.
He did the same thing at Martinsville that year.
It's because it had the aerodynamic properties of a brick
Problem was it cut tires too easy
You couldn’t race with the COT. It was supposed to neutralize aeropush and all it did was worsen it. It never allowed adjustments. The draft never became effective away from Daytona and Talladega and making the draft work at Charlotte at Pocono etc. is a necessity for the sport.
@@STP43FAN1 it also was designed in the shape of a brick so it had no side force to speak of
I absolutely love technical discussion about the car like this. I know it's not for everyone, but as a card nerd, I could listen to drivers, crew chiefs and engineers break down, explain and discuss details of car setup FOREVER. from big platform stuff like body, aero, suspension, and engine to finer details like pedal setup and gearing, so much is covered in this episode, and there's a lot of good info and discussion. more like this going forward please!
Are there any other RUclips channels that talk nascar shop like this that you know of?
I wish NASCAR shows like Race Hub could talk like this
For reference. I’m an HVAC/R tech in Arizona. Attics get to be about 155 in the summer. Within a seconds you are soaking wet in sweat. In 20-30 minutes stuff gets weird. Almost funny. Like everything just makes you want to stop and laugh. It’s from the extreme heat. How these guys RACE in heat like that is crazy. I know adrenaline does crazy miracle type stuff. But 150?!?! That’s HOT!
Holy crapbaskets that's hot!
Thanks for your service, and much respect. I couldn't take it anymore and moved to a more survivable climate.
That's the temperature of the engine room onboard a naval ship in the Persian Gulf.
I did roofing for one summer with my uncle after high school in AZ...there's a reason it was one summer. Lol
Conditioning same as any top level sport
5 days later, this car is on a wrecker going back to the RCR shop from testing…
Trans axle?? Even race cars are having sex changes now? 🤣
This car makes the old car look like a dinosaur and thats crazy in its own sense. This will be a fun season to watch as the drivers adjust. Kind of a wild card season. I remember the issues just going to fuel injection and the issues the drivers had just restarting the car after a stall. Going to be a fun season!
A f1 car had more technology in the drink system than the gen 6 car had in it's entire body
@@yankees512417 And yet Kimi still will not have the drink
@@yankees512417 so what?
No wing closed splitter COT is wildly underrated
If we only knew at the time
2011 and 2012 were great seasons
Wing was the best
COT was a complete failure.
It had awesome racing
I’m so glad that the Gen 6 is finally dead. But idk how I feel about the Gen 7 since NASCAR keeps taking away more horsepowers for ”entertainment purposes”
I wanted to hear some feedback from Austin about the new 18 inch tire. How does it feel at or near the breakaway in traction? Dale Jr. mentioned this a few days ago, said it might be like the switch from bias-ply to radial tires in early 90s
Go listen to the podcast and fast forward to 1:21:50 😎👊🏻
They won't know the real answer until they do full races distances
Wider thinner tires heat up faster and are naturally more grippy. So I have a feeling that will take a bit of work
Nascar is dying. As soon as they went away from stock cars and came out with these overly modified things the sport died. You are just copying F1. Why not just watch F1 instead of the cheap copycat?
I'm on the fence with this one still. I suppose time will tell🤷♂️
Favorite Podcast so far Jr..
I love these technical talks
Feels like Inside Baseball. Like giving us fans a window into details we would never know othwrwise
The car is cool and I think a good evolution for NASCAR, but the car number placement is just ugly and a cash grab, and the one lug tires just take the fun out of pit road. Lots of excitement but also lots of regression too.
The single lug nut is apparently safer and more effective with the new wheels they're switching to. The number placement is absolutely a cash grab, but at least Nascar has been honest about that.
The lugnut change was for safety reasons tbf
@@tomcurran860 how is it safer? One or two lugs come loose, the others hold it on until you can limp back to the pits. Now when the one lug comes loose, you’re going in the fence!
Number placement is a product of the times. If teams could afford to run with 1 sponsor like they used to this wouldn't be an option but sadly they now need 3-4 which requires space
@@Jwal98 if I remember right NASCAR had issues with doing five lugs and the structure of the wheel and tire so they went to center-lock.
Number placement is terrible and it looks like crap
@NolanEP I really like the cars, but the number placement kills me
NASCAR's rules, not yours.
@@sergeantmasson3669 no kidding
cry about it.
@@shrimpshrubbery7664 I am
For a few minutes I thought he was saying"road blocks" not rub blocks. I was thinking wtf are they doing have to drive around with road blocks at Daytona lol
As an old-timer, I remember when the "Next Gen" car meant your 1962 Impala ended up with a different fin! :-)
Lol, so true ! 😂
I've said it elsewhere, but I really do think the cars only having 550hp is a major image problem for the sport. There are a LOT of production street cars now that make considerably more power than that,not to mention that many car enthusiasts (who overlap as motorsports fans) have daily drivers that make a LOT more power than 550. I haven't been a fan of what the 550hp package has produced racing wise either to be honest.
A lot of the drivers aren't fans of the 550 package either, but Nascar has a habit of taking what the drivers want and doing the opposite.
Agreed . I’m not a racecar driver but I like to see the big power engines , 700-800 hp . Even these days that’s still considered low power . 7-800 can be built reliable . Leave the driving in the throttle pedal , lot more finesse when they can light the tires up at 1/2 throttle in a turn
Dude I 100% agree part of the appeal is that these cars are gnarlier than what anyone can handle. Plus that high rpm sounds so much better
604 crates make 400hp race saver 305 sprint car motors make 500 hp and if you watch them race in person if your not aware of the motors the cars are running it’s very hard to tell the difference , tires , suspension, aero etc. have a came a long way and has proven sometimes more power is not the solution , one thing I’ve learned is lower hp cars are harder to drive fast consistent because you don’t have the extra power to muscle a car around to do certain things were a lower hp car has to be finessed and keep momentum
@@brandon42054 Sprint cars and cars running 604 crate motors are running on dirt tracks that are similar in length to short tracks that Nascar runs high horsepower on. The 550 package that Nascar runs sucks for a multitude of reasons, one of them being that the cars are so dependent on aero now, but 550 hp doesn't allow for cars to muscle through bad air, so passing the leaders is near impossible.
Austin seems like a pretty smart kid. His teammate is giving him a run for his money, though.
I think his teammate has a lot more talent..
His teammate would give anybody a run for their money. Reddick is a beast!
Reddick is a Wheelman
Austin turns my stomach just listening to him, he strikes me as a spoiled punk kid
Still say gen 4 shoulda been kept with the COT safety additions and been left alone racing was so much better may not have resembled oem’s but racing was the best
Seeing these cars makes me miss the older cars so much more!!They’re making these cars easier to handle and way to much technology in them lol just go back old school lol
I still dont like the car still got the stupid ass spliter and I've said it time again get that damn body off the ground. The rear end still looks stupid like Gen 6
I watched the 1986 Miller High life 400 at Richmond fairgrounds and thoroughly enjoyed it. It showed me how much nascar has failed to keep races worth watching and why they have lost 75% or more of their viewers. The main thing I noticed was the personality's of the driver's and how much it's changed from real men to little silver spooned boys with no personality's. Jimmy Johnson was one of the worst things to ever happen to nascar, people didn't like him, and the next thing you see is 40 Jimmy Johnson's out there and NO Dale Earnhardt SR's or Darrel Waltrip's left. These men worked their way up from dirt track's and paid their dues and put on a show worth watching unlike modern day bland e-racer's that cut their teeth on a computer!
I agree with the premise of your comment but I actually liked JJ in the end. The key is in the end. The Dale Sr we all know and love was older and more mature when he became the face of NASCAR. Its the same thing now with the Busch brothers. I still hate Kyle, but Kurt is starting to come around to where I actually dont mind him at all, even in broadcast. But still totally agree as a whole NASCAR has made horrible decisions and alienated the fans it had to try and gain more from other sources, which has mostly failed. And we do seem to be in a rut where most of the current drivers are a bunch of young kids with no respect and a lot of learning and growing up to be had. Probably because theyve made the sport so damn expensive, both to watch and to participate in.
I think this comment is essentially 5-10 years out of date. It was valid for a while but there's a new generation of drivers who are winning and showing their personalities, and a lot of them cut teeth at lower levels and earned their way up.
@@vercingetorix444 I still think a lot has to do with the fact that the younger drivers just havnt had enough time to grow up. Give it time and they will come around, hell many of them are early twenties. I dont know about you but I wasnt exactly the most mature person at 20 years old
Completely true
NASCAR is 4 or 5 times more popular now than it ever was in the 80s. That’s reality, not opinion. Whether you like it or not (myself, not so much these days) is another question.
850 hp 3.73 gear done deal. every track all the time to shift or not to shift? let teams and drivers decide. downforce should be absolute no adjustments from track to track make these drivers drive no matter how big or small the track. thats how bootlegging was done way back when and street racing now best driver fastest car delivers the goods
Thank you, Dale, for asking that question about drivers potentially damaging rear diffusers on purpose, in order to upset the balance of a fellow competitors car. To me, that would be low-hanging fruit to rough up a driver running at Martinsville, Dover, and any other tracks where cars run nose to tail a lot of the time. I am not a fan of the sheer number of changes coming with this Next Gen car, NASCAR used to wisely be slower to change things in cars, in attempt to keep NASCAR cars unique from other auto racing series. The massive number of changes: rear diffusers, single-lug wheels, sequential transmission, no more track bars, etc., are just too many changes to the NASCAR unique car platform. The Next Gen car is almost an IMSA Corvette (before Chevrolet removed what made a Corvette a Corvette with the most recent mid-engine design). At what point do you say, someone is just okaying all of these changes, just so they can put their own stamp of leadership on the series? As a 20-year plus dedicated (watching every single race) fan of NASCAR, I don't like how wholesale the changes have been rolling in lately. Clearly, the rise of IndyCar and IMSA racing has happened for them without the "gimmick" of PLAYOFFS, Stages, and wholesale changes to race schedule dates and racetracks. I'm frustrated just waiting for the next string of Spaghetti NASCAR will fling at the wall next!
I wonder what the rear diffuser is made of, maybe it would destroy the fron bumper. I do agree about the amount of changes, ease it in. I almost have no faith in Nascar recovering especially after the CoT, the chase, stage racing, double lines, running to the line after a wreck.....short tracks and new cars aren't gonna fix anything. They are a lot like the NHRA which is dying due to the fact the cars are all the same and rule changes. No innovation just a scramble to survive. I say bring it back to the 60s and 70s when the little man can afford to race
Judging from these comments, nascar is lying through their teeth about fans wanting low horsepower. Either people don’t care or they really want more horsepower. Absolutely no one is clamoring for less horsepower and any suggestion of that being true is bullshit
Bring back the COT!!!, and give them back the HP, these new cars look ridiculous and of course they still have no horsepower. I had been a lifelong Nascar fan live minutes from Rockingham been to more races than I can count at more tracks that I can count and I'm done with NASCAR!!! I never in my life thought that would happen but it has turned into a complete shitshow.
Make the drivers wear cool suits!! It's not 1982 anymore! Dump some ice in the system during pit stops
Next up, paddle shifter on the steering wheel. NASCAR is fucking everything up.
More in depth tech like this please. The kindergarten tech usually offered by NASCAR and the tv networks is worn out.
Hey I’m from Mt. Airy to. It’s good to Eric representing us!! The DaleJr download is the best podcast, RUclips, NBCSN show across the board!! It’s fun to watch DaleJr and Mike really dig deep and get the scoop on what was really going on back in the day with owners, crew chiefs and drivers!! I also love the technical side, the advantage’s the innovation’s that teams dreamed up to go win races. I love the drivers stories past and present.
Dale Jr. put Sterling Marlin on your show. I would like to hear what he has to say about all that happened and Nascar now.
I wonder how his doing with his illness
@@deuce9624 He's still racing and has done a few recent-ish interviews. He'd be fine.
I hate the number placement
@Michael Rizzo someone has been sniffing to many sharpies
NASCAR's ball game, their rules.
cry about it.
Number placement is still 🗑
One lug nut? I feel alike touring car racing and Indycar met and made those cars. It’s not nascar anymore.
Sounds like NASCAR better get in gear with testing this car A LOT more. You know, I wasnt a fan when I saw the next gen car. Its ugly, the new tires look weird, and Im not sure how I feel about the single lug tires. I can live with all that. I was even excited to hear they were doing away with the out of the box everything is the same body style, and getting away from aero winning every race. But honestly, the sequential gear box may be a deal breaker for me as a fan. I get it, H pattern vs sequential isnt a big deal when it comes to ovals per say, but its enough for me that I personally may just stop watching all together. Why not just rename cup to closed wheel Indy car at that point. That and the fact that they seem to be trying to get even closer to total fixed setups for the cars, at least from what I can tell. Im just hoping the racing is good enough since the next gen car doesnt seem to be as much of a glass cannon that it will still keep me interested.
If you've watched V8 supercars over in Australia at all in the past 10 years I think you'll learn to not mind the sequential. Theyre still beasts of a car and really shifting won't be any different besides being quicker. No clutch needs to be used just like with the 4 speed dog box and we'll probably see less transmission issues as well which means less people retiring for random BS. The drivers still need to take a hand off the wheel as well.
NASCAR will be in talks over the break with teams and drivers to get their input to solidify rules and packages next year so I believe we're in for a treat when we return. I'm most excited about the Trans axle and diffuser that will give the teams a lot more adjustability as well as much tighter racing next year as well so we'll see which drivers can make the change and showcase their raw talent next year.
@@BooneLuebchow Idk, the H pattern to me was just what made NASCAR different. Im not a fan of all the road courses they are adding either but that much I understand is just times changing. But the H pattern really is what made them different from most. Im still really banking on the fact that hopefully it will be more about driving and less about aero and maybe they can rub a bit harder without blowing tires
@@ethang6735 I get what youre saying but its practically the same gearbox they just dont move the stick left and right anymore to get into gear. Im confident we'll like this change. When gen 4 turned to 5 I hated how the COT looked so beefy and tall but boy when they raced and sucked down onto the track and I heard all 900 hp, I fell back in love
Don’t cover any side windows!!!! Front & back like the old days and let them run!!!
Covering the windows was for safety reasons. Back in the old days, the cars tended to lift during high speeds.
You have to cover side windows it’s aero and lord you don’t want anything flying in the side that’s a big opening
@@Dreway
No you don’t it was all about speed and areo.
They can put nets up and protect the driver.
They ran like that for years and with bigger motors and faster speeds.
@@sergeantmasson3669
Nope speed reasons only. You name one time other than a wreck anything came in and hit or killed a driver? Never. It was all about speed and down force that’s all.
@@danielvrana9444 no it was to keep limbs in the car. Nets was for safety. Windows for aero
Austin’s face the whole interview was like these cars suck
Yep !!!
Reddick has mentioned how fun they are and he is someone who has said he isn't a fan of the 550 package before so..
It doesn’t seem like they’ve done enough 1.5 mile testing with multiple cars on track. We had that 1 test with Truex and Kurt then never heard anything after that
The gen 6 car was a legend. Consistently shattered speed records in qualifying really glad for the single lugnut safer. 2 many loose wheels every race Harvick had loose wheels.
No kidding. If they miss the lug nut this year, into the wall or another car you go. But at least like you said, no lore penalties or fines for loose lug nuts because you won't finish the race anyway most likely.
2013, 2014, and 2016 were the best years of the Gen 6. It had potential, tbh
True piece of Art
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT yeah I don't get the issues with the new car. I mean can't they take what made that car not have the heating and apply that to the new car. That should be something that they could fix pretty easily. I don't understand that why that is an issue, but I'm not and engineer on the cars either, so I don't know.
@@vincentodomscatl24 it may not be quite that simple. What may have worked for the gen 6 might be heavily detrimental to the next gen. Teams will have some things to work out and I don't think we'll see the true potential of the new car until much later in the year as R&D catches up and teams figure it out with experience in the car and working on the car.
All of this is great but why cant we just go back to our roots? Why cant we require that ALL cars must be built from an existing factory frame and body? Isnt that where the series started? Not only is this not a "Stock Car" its a purpose-built race car with a shell on it. No different than what we have been doing for decades. Its an honest question. I can only speak for myself but I would find the series more interesting if things went back to the roots. The Enginuity involved would be fascinating. I also find it hard to believe that it would be more expensive. Id love to hear someone with Cup racing experience explain this.
In the 90s, manufacturers moved to FWD, V6, automatics. NASCAR had a choice to make. They could either change to FWD, V6, automatics, or they could keep the 60s tech and make pretend the Lumina and Taurus were RWD, V8, manual transmissions. They decide to go with the illusion and stock car racing on the national scale was dead, replaced by spec racers and spoiled rich drivers.
NASCAR race cars USE to have to fit the templates of factory showroom cars(Monte Carlo, Thunderbird, Lumina, etc) Now they look like cookie cutter boxes, just like cars on the street. They have no personalities anymore. They need to go back more to there roots, when they actually had fans that attended, and watched racing. Moving the number, and eliminating the contingency decals from the front fenders is another big step backwards to, in my opinion. They don’t even look like a traditional STOCK CAR anymore. I haven’t watched, or attended a race for years(had 12 season tickets at Dover for over 20 years) and probably still won’t. With the stupid rule changes, the cars, changing tracks, and lack GOOD racing, good luck NASCAR!!!
Used to be the factory cars going down the road there was no question to whether it was a t-bird, monte carlo or oldsmobile either. Today see a factory car going down the road you almost need to look at the badging on many of them to really know what kind of car it is.
Why would you expect Nascar to be much different?
@@billwiley7216 - So true. Gone are the days that designers actually DESIGNED something. There’s no creativity among auto designers anymore, just subtle differences. There’s very few car companies that set themselves apart from others.
Everyone loved the idea of the car of tomorrow till they actually raced it. A lot of this car sounds more cute then practical. Will it make racing better?
COT cars were eventually proven to be a huge mistake. Without spoilers, and added-on ground effects, COT cars were aerodynamic crap.
Still think they wont get the full potential of these new cars until they give them more power but sadly sounds like that's not happening
@@13Mizzou Power isn't much different than the Gen-6 cars. Gen-7 cars are 200 pounds less weight.
Not hyped on the number placement but its nice seein somethin new, next years gonna be crazy for sure. All i know is is that im super excited for the inboards from all the road courses
NASCAR is too woke, and the product is just simply going down hill period! They are not the best drivers in the world as they claim, INDY and F1 drivers much better! NASCAR simply sucks these days!
Always funny to hear them say "the best drivers in the world" as they discuss how they changed the track to accommodate the drivers not being able to handle a turn (Sears Point was a glaring example).
This comment section is full of armchair racers who apparently have somehow driven the car at every track and know it’s a terrible car and people that seem to hate NASCAR so much it’s bizarre they even watch content.
The high down force 550hp package is all you need to see this product sucks
@@randomepic6204 underbody aero will change everything. we're gonna see some good action
And then, there's you, expressing your opinion about how upset you are that others are expressing their opinions. Hypocrite much?
@@BooneLuebchow hope so
I still don't understand why they don't use stock production bodies instead of saying, "man this almost looks identical to a stock body." Seems like that would cut costs even more. Carbon fiber bodies are nice, but that can't be low cost.
So nascar doesn't exist anymore, ie no more stock appearing cars
I feel sorry for drivers like CBell, Reddick, and Custer. Their rookie and sophomore season they had no practice and qualifying. They had to learn on race day and by the time they got a "hang" of it they're in a different generation car.
Which brings everyone else down to their experience level with the car. Talk about good luck lol
When is Childress going to put someone in the #3 that can actually drive it..
This is the first time ive been excited about something in NASCAR since about the same time the last Thunderbird went to a Taurus body 😂
Might end up being underwhelming, but if not for this shake up I may never have come back to watching races.
Engine updates needed ASAP. Now that Chevy has a Flat plane DOHC offering, it's time for a Flat plane Coyote (from the GT350/R) vs upcoming flat plane LT6 (C8 Z06) in NASCAR.
STOCK cars need to be MORE based on STOCK CARS.
The number placement looks awful.
I’m trying to be a fan, but it’s not the same. Used to go to the track on Tuesday and leave on Monday. Practice, qualifying and the race on Sunday. The Fan Zone isn’t what it was. Now I’ll see the highlights on RUclips
I will always love the gen 4 cars alot more
Wonder what Dale Sr would of thought about the new ride . Would of loved to see him driving it and beating on other drivers would be the ultimate test but I digress … we will just have to wait and see. We need to see some “iron head” drivers knocking the back door / fenders off
Cars dont even resemble Nascar anymore. Look like rally cars. Drive lines suck. I think engineers over did it all. Ruined racing so .... Goin back to the home tracks with my money
show are so much better as video's..Just saying.
The new cars are too evenly matched performance wise.. Daytona looked like demolition race... There is no competition performance wise and you cant pass anyone unless you bump and wreck them... sad
To the old school nas-fans Nas-Corp. is like tuning in to an ATT meeting..
Execs. at nascar sending memos to the employees.. soon they will all wear gray uniforms and march to their cars in unison.
Dale Jr you are a true badass I love you man but how can you work for NBC with what they are doing to the American people. Stand tall brother we got your back do the right thing bubba we need you
Biggest foul against the new package is the horsepower limits. Been saying it for years, except for the "restrictor" tracks, give them all they can get and LET THEM DRIVE IT.
I agree. Jr said that when exiting the corner the tires just grip. The old cars it was a challenge to control the throttle. Old school american racing is about high horsepower.
Now I want everyone to rewatch this and do something for me. Pay attention to how many times they say "fans" to justify changes...
NASCAR needs to change the name cuz these cars are the furthest from being stock
Last stock parts were gone decades ago, with many of it's fans.
Screw these custom race cars. Make the MFGs start racing their real cars they try to sell us. I wanna see Mustangs, Camaros, and some Camrys out there! Then, we'll see how good their products really are.
Nascar needs to put working headlights an tail lights on these cars for road course the Cota race is a great example!
At least brake lights, and functional wipers would be nice also.
Dale Jr, this is for you buddy, up to your driving the next gen car at Bowman Grey stadium, you had constantly railed against all of the built in downforce in the new car, saying that all of the downforce should be be taken out of the car, even saying they should have "negative downforce" what changed your mind, did the @NASCAR Politboro politely tell you that it's time for you to "get onboard" with the new car? I know that's happened with other critics in the past.
I'd like to see him answer this question, probably will never happen
So tried I'm so sick n tired of seeing how people actually feel and nascar coming down on them. As if they're going for something they don't want us to know about
The great drive off is more because of the increased mechanical grip and not downforce
@@brandonhumphries3377 I bet no one will like or share.
@@catamount21 you're probably right
The cars look hideous. NASCAR is not a European Supercar series. Keep pushing tradition away.
Spot on. I'll stick to dirt tracks until they wisen up.
Exactly right! When you watch the pack coming down to front straight - or coming out of the pits, you just can't tell one brand from the other. The 'look' of all of them is identical.
Who did a better job of alienating its fans? NASCAR or Star Wars?
Definitely need to change the wheels. There has to be a wheel they can make that looks like the last gen with a center lug.
Hopefully the composite body panels don't cut tires so easy. It sucks when 2 guys are racin' hard, bumpin' and bangin', and one gets a blowout and hits the wall, or a flat and loses a lap.
One things for sure its going to be different, the question is will it be better. The cars look weird to me from the side I'm not sure why that is maybe a smaller body on the same wheelbase. Maybe the number placement. Maybe because they moved the trans to the rear of the car. Its funny if you go back and look at the pic's from the 40's and 50's front fender numbers were kinda thing back then.
Had no idea that Dale Jr had Austin Dillon and Boomhauer on the show.
Yep,yep,yep,mhem
Best comment on this video.
Best discussion of the new car yet, thank you all for presenting this! I'm excited for the new car, looking to see how it progresses during the '22 season.
Stock Car... now that's funny
Hey, I noticed that there pinball machine in the back ain't plugged in.
This guy continues to use the term”stake holders”. Exactly who is he referring to? I would think the teams themselves would be the stake holder as I’m certain the new cars won’t be provided to them at no cost! So please explain..........
The stake holders of each manufacturer. Chevy, Ford and Toyota
Spec cars make winning races more expensive, because getting around the rules into the winners circle is harder. The teams with resources will figure it out and the other teams will be left behind. Someone has probably already duplicated the seal tools so they can take them off and put them back on.
Given the many spec series around the world this is demonstrably false
@@jarrod1766 My experience would suggest otherwise. For the teams willing to run mid-pack, there may be some cost savings. For the teams that want to be out front, they have a budget, and they are going to use it. They will not settle for "luck of the draw" The whole reason Indy Car fell apart was because of USAC controlling the waste gates for the Indy 500. ( a spec part) The drivers and teams splintered off and created their own champ car series-es and Indy went to poo.
Nice if we could hear Austin’s input every once in a while, SINCE he’s the one that will drive the car and has tested the car.
So has jr @rmeshr
He ain’t gonna win anything in it
Don't mind hearing his opinion, but he's proven himself the 15th to 20th best driver in nascar, better than me, but mediocrity in his peer group.
@@Blakesride Ok notradumbass. Nobody asked for your input.
@@kingboagart899 hard to be up there competing for a win when you don’t have the equipment
Too many major changes at once = trouble
It's Boomhauer in real life!
My question is how is the team employee numbers going to change?
If it was an honest assessment you’d have Ryan Newman on.
Gen 6 was a piece of Art
I thought they were going to take the weapons away from the racers in the way of the exhaust pipes I thought initially they were going to run them out the back now they got them on the left and right side tire cutters
Ducts in the front window for those rainy days.
That roofline is nothing like the real Camaro
Have a look at Elon musk's Starship and it's bolt on heat shield tiles. Maybe the thermal protection system of starship could help in the floorboard of the stock cars, near the exhaust pipe.
If they had to use aluminum pucks because the better material was too expensive, I'm pretty sure spaceship heat tiles are out of the budget. That said, I agree with you.
Really simple fix for some of the heat.... move the goddamn exhaust from the driver side.... I'm dumbfounded as to why they would run exhaust near the driver in the rocker panel
I'm leary about the aluminum wheels, aluminum shatters, steel bends.
Same here you smack the wall at Daytona and crack a rim at 200 and it explodes could get nasty.
I've been saying this for 6 months. ALUMINUM BREAKS. when they hit the wall. Itll break. Not bend , great minds think alike 👍💯
I think if they put the exhaust on the right side instead to keep the heat off the drivers.
Next year is going to be big for motorsports. Dirt track racing getting the Million at eldora , F1 with new more competitive cars, and as well as nascar. Happy to see the mix of road courses mixed in for next year too to see how racing is gonna be with the next gen car
It makes me sad to listen to a guy like this. Gone are the days of innovative mechanics building a car that is faster than the other guy’s car. Figuring stuff out. Now, it’s nothing but an iroc race.
I like the single wheel nut. Pit stops won't take so damn long, or be such a time penalty when ya need one. Guys with a flat might not lose a lap.
Nascar said the pit stops will only be a tiny bit faster, due to having to hold on that nut longer to make sure it's tight.
My opinion. We Gotta Get rid of the BIG Ass spoiler. 1inch 1.5 inches should Be max height.