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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @plastichouselady
    @plastichouselady 3 года назад +78

    Another Senior coming! I am purging, purging, purging, holding a garage sale on Saturday, selling the house, and should be in Rwanda by AUGUST! YAY!

    • @missgndlovu6946
      @missgndlovu6946 3 года назад +8

      Welcome to your mother land, and please record your journey.. Much love from South Africa.

    • @erwin5us
      @erwin5us 3 года назад +3

      Very nice

    • @sarafinalove5330
      @sarafinalove5330 3 года назад +4

      Congratulations, hope we will be neighbors. Just came back from Tanzania. Will be in Rwanda for about 3 months only to decide between tanzania and rwanda.

    • @erwin5us
      @erwin5us 3 года назад +4

      @@sarafinalove5330 I am Rwandan and I love Tanzania 🇹🇿 you will love both countries

    • @eugenemurigande4616
      @eugenemurigande4616 3 года назад +1

      Go for it.. Talking from experience.. Welcome

  • @Jnell432
    @Jnell432 3 года назад +28

    Yes Rwanda I’m coming babe between this fall or the first of next year in March I’m off into gardening and home decorating

  • @tomwalalo2230
    @tomwalalo2230 3 года назад +8

    That lady is amazing in being humble, practical and honest. So heart warming

  • @dmcarden
    @dmcarden 3 года назад +24

    I'm 59...thinking of doing the same..definitely not safe here in the U.S.

    • @eugenemurigande4616
      @eugenemurigande4616 3 года назад +4

      A little bit older.. I know North America quite well.. Great idea.. Cheaper, safer, probably cleaner. .. with a certain level income which maybe less than average in the US you can a comfortable life here... Look into it

    • @dmcarden
      @dmcarden 3 года назад +1

      @@eugenemurigande4616 ty! Yeah, just looks peaceful

    • @lildancer54
      @lildancer54 3 года назад +1

      I am starting to downsize and purge my belongings …

  • @rubytrotter2355
    @rubytrotter2355 3 года назад +3

    I'm from Houston Texas! Awesome!! Ms Pam! God Bless you on your travels! Beautiful! Ms Pam is a amazing lovely friend of my family! 🙌👑❤❤😘😗

  • @ufundi1
    @ufundi1 3 года назад +12

    Great interview, Unapologetic Nomads!

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +8

    Yaas!! “People are our greatest asset”

  • @S1804T
    @S1804T 2 года назад +2

    I have a made-in Rwanda cellphone! munch appreciation from Canada

  • @martinconteh7075
    @martinconteh7075 3 года назад +9

    I am a born African presently living in Germany I'm about to travel on holiday in two weeks time. I am proud of gentle old lady you are interviewing, she spoke all positive things about Africa and she feeling at home. Thank you gentle woman. I love you!

  • @sistaluv1357
    @sistaluv1357 3 года назад +5

    I’ve never been to Rwanda. Would love to visit some day. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @lazarocedeno5270
    @lazarocedeno5270 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for your interview. I love you calling seniors that special name.

  • @melanierobinson4152
    @melanierobinson4152 3 года назад +2

    Great interview ❣️

  • @terrikirk6883
    @terrikirk6883 3 года назад +1

    Great interview Unapologetic Nomads

  • @benny73ism
    @benny73ism 3 года назад +31

    Please don't be afraid of talking about having a house help. It's a way of providing jobs to the locals and many of them love it. As an African, I see nothing wrong with that.

    • @ubiatv8391
      @ubiatv8391 3 года назад +5

      Guess it’s the similar to home help services in the US. They can cook, clean, grocery shop, chauffeur and provide companionship for seniors

    • @gladstonefuller953
      @gladstonefuller953 3 года назад +5

      @Follow The Light I agree with you. I believe that a big part of the freeing ourselves from mental slavery is renouncing the names that literally suggest ownership. I often ask myself what the hell am I doing with a name that has nothing to do with my people. Soon I will do a DNA test just to have an idea of what people on the motherland I have most connections with then take it from there.

    • @madoxxxx06
      @madoxxxx06 3 года назад +3

      I second that, it's a blessing to see your former house help go up in the world through the opportunity you offered!

  • @lazarocedeno5270
    @lazarocedeno5270 3 года назад +3

    Dear Goddesses. Great interview. Very informative and inspiring. I am glad you are enjoying your beautiful life. Thanks

  • @BelindaWisebey
    @BelindaWisebey 3 года назад +2

    Great interview... Thank you

  • @sarafinalove5330
    @sarafinalove5330 3 года назад +2

    Glad you did this episode on seniors expats. Very helpful. Thank you.

    • @ajeweljewel4928
      @ajeweljewel4928 3 года назад

      Give us the sight to connect to others from America, want to know more of Rawanda

  • @bbah523
    @bbah523 3 года назад +3

    UAN your content is always on point. I enjoy watching your videos. God bless!

  • @pauletteparker7225
    @pauletteparker7225 3 года назад +3

    Hey Mickey. Another great interview for the diaspora thank you ❤

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +3

    Awesome interview, thank you for consistent great content.

  • @georgekamelo6858
    @georgekamelo6858 3 года назад +15

    Most Rwandans are friendly and have a great appreciation to Americans due to their recent history. It maybe true that Americans helped them after the genocide when other Europeans let them down, especially the French who were rather involved in the massacre there. Rwandans are also considered in America because till recently they are amongst the few African countries who were getting 10 year visa going to USA.
    That's a good point our Afracan American sister raised. Enjoy your motherland and good to see you in Africa.

    • @1nesoch
      @1nesoch 3 года назад +1

      A little bit of correction, with all due respect:
      We admire Americans, especially Black Americans, first because Rwandans are Pan-Africanists since 60's. The struggle of early African Americans was played in Africa, not in America. Black Panthers, Malcom X, Muhammad Ali, especially Black Panthers members were embraced all-over Africa. So, if you're an African American, you won't have hard time to settle in Rwanda; and after George Floyd incident in America.....
      . that was gross and our hearts were bleeding and seeking revenge. In general, Americans are welcomed on the continent here because they don't interfere into local political affaires.

  • @godschild5189
    @godschild5189 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for this interview! I hope to visit in 2022 or 2023 for sure. I want to check out the healthcare system. My situation is unique because I am retired but raising a 7 year old.

    • @treasurehunter183hunter8
      @treasurehunter183hunter8 3 года назад +3

      Olga Williams Oh my God that 7 year old is going to love Africa. And you bringing that child at the right time because he or she can learn Swahili and any other language they want to. God bless you and enjoy your new life in Rwanda if that's the country you decide to choose. I have decided to settle in one of the other countries when I return home And I have also made up my mind on exactly which one..... .. i very am excited and can't wait..... I've named it and claimed it.... so this year is my year and I'll be coming back home.🤗🤗 love me some Unapologetic nomads✌& 💛

    • @grace2garden403
      @grace2garden403 Год назад

      Have you made it to visit Africa yet?

  • @lbpmoody7405
    @lbpmoody7405 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for showing me that seasoned people are welcome to Africa too

  • @kemicecormier5687
    @kemicecormier5687 3 года назад +10

    I’m from H-town too!! I’m 52 and want to move to Africa, alone. I wanted the ocean views of Tanzania, but the heat and mosquitoes had me questioning my choice. I also thought Arusha, but not sure. I watched another video of you guys talking about Rwanda while you were in Dar es Salaam, so I was thinking…hmmmm. Now listening to your interview, the weather is perfect, not too big, I don’t have to drive and I can enjoy beautiful scenery. I think I’m sold. One question about the COVID testing: If you have taken the vaccine do you still have to get a COVID test?

    • @Unmad
      @Unmad  3 года назад +1

      Most likely for now

    • @sarafinalove5330
      @sarafinalove5330 3 года назад +3

      Just returned from dar es salaam, didnot get bit by on mosquitoes, dont believe the hpye. I love Tanzania the people and beaches. I am now comparing between rawanda and tanzania to live.

    • @kemicecormier5687
      @kemicecormier5687 3 года назад +2

      @@sarafinalove5330 me too!

    • @jenifferkimondo710
      @jenifferkimondo710 3 года назад

      Welcome to Kenya..will take you round..

  • @kandeedee2913
    @kandeedee2913 3 года назад +2

    Our 4 relatives have a questions? What's the best monthly income to live comfortable? With out being in a dark challenge areas? They are in their 65 , 70s and 80s.. on 890.00 to 1800 monthly. Keep up the good work on your information of Africa. We enjoy your video channel. The lady you interview is so nice. She has courage as a senior. You go girl. Lol. Blessings

  • @funfamily9209
    @funfamily9209 3 года назад +4

    Ooh my fevor family nice to see you back home welcome back home beautifully family

  • @Guevodou13
    @Guevodou13 3 года назад +2

    Blessing to her❤🖤💚

  • @Wynndie1
    @Wynndie1 3 года назад +2

    Excellent interview, Pamela is a beautiful Spirit that I had the opportunity to meet last weekend. Yes, we seasoned sisters are here to stay.

    • @xiomaralemans8646
      @xiomaralemans8646 3 года назад

      Ms Wynndie Nobles, do you recall Pamela's last name?

    • @Wynndie1
      @Wynndie1 3 года назад

      @@xiomaralemans8646 no I’m sorry

    • @xiomaralemans8646
      @xiomaralemans8646 3 года назад

      Thank you Ms Wynndie Nobles

  • @simplyliving9269
    @simplyliving9269 3 года назад +4

    This is the most amazing and beneficial interview that I've seen thus far on "Unapologetic Nomads"
    My objective is to repatriate by August of 2022.

  • @treasurehunter183hunter8
    @treasurehunter183hunter8 3 года назад +12

    Come on Mama there's Coconuts in Africa..... if you want coconut flakes make your own flakes Oooooo! all you need is a hand grater....... make your own coconut flakes. Ooo! Dehydrate them some to make them flaky and crumbly so they won't stick together then you're good to go mama.💛 just get creative and stop looking to depend on America for what you need........ Africa has everything you need mama just learn to make adjustment. You were only born in America then you where taught the ways of your ancestors slave masters so when you was born you had no choice but to conform, because there was no way for your ancestors to get away to return home...... but Africa would have been your place of birth and that is how you would have been making coconut flakes mama not buying it in a bag the American Way.... so happy that you made it home to Your Big Momma's House which is Mother Africa🤗🤗 love and peace to you welcome home Mama💛💛 from Dar es Salaam

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      Yes, you are right, coconut is found here, I bought some coconut flakes here. But it was more of a small dry crunchy crumb. I was needing the long moist coconut that is used on coconut cakes in the U.S. I looked for similar, but couldn't find it here in Rwanda. I did use the coconut found and bought here.

    • @uphylme9350
      @uphylme9350 3 года назад

      Our flakes are soaked in high fructose corn sugar, i can almost taste that coconut cake. #yummy

    • @nightnyungwe5945
      @nightnyungwe5945 3 года назад

      Coconuts in the Great Lakes region of Africa? It's a really massive and diverse continent. Climate varies too.

  • @blackpowergod210
    @blackpowergod210 3 года назад +3

    Tuskegee my place of birth.

  • @gladstonefuller953
    @gladstonefuller953 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for a wonderful interview. Your guest has been engaging and positive. I see myself in somewhat similar circumstance with respect to age and standing in life as your guest. The word is not “old”. We are just matured people and not into the rat-race of life. I just subscribed to your channel.

  • @deejayklean
    @deejayklean 3 года назад +1

    Welcome to Rwanda 😍Grandma

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +3

    Wonderful perspective.

  • @cynthiatownsend8524
    @cynthiatownsend8524 3 года назад +1

    Thank for sharing great information

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +1

    Great point. Nice to have affordable help.

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +3

    How cool!

  • @crystalwillis5430
    @crystalwillis5430 3 года назад +1

    i really enjoyed the interview, questions , what to do & bring , please show more thanks

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      Bring assortment of Command strips, super glue, simple tools such as plyers, screw drivers, etc., needle and thread, scissors, linen, can of Hersheys Chocalate for cakes and icing, hand cranked can opener, measuring cup & spoons, (why go looking for these basic things when you already have them) sweats(top & bottom) for times when it is cool in the house, warm cozy socks for cool temps, laptop & printer w/ some paper for times when you need a copy or a printed item. Remember small and light for everything mentioned.

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      The items mentioned is not to say that you can't find them here. Its just that they may be a lot more expensive. And you probably have them already, so why buy them again at a much higher cost. Because, most of the time, when moving here, you are starting all over. Buying everything all over again, and it can add up. The smallest items then become very important to have. Dollar Tree items becomes your biggest wish list.

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +4

    Pam is such a wonderful and pleasant person. Thank you UN again. This interview gave me ideas. It causes me to consider things that I had not. It has also allowed me to see options that I previously could not.

  • @leboyemichael4733
    @leboyemichael4733 3 года назад +2

    Welcome home welcome on the continent this is Africa wow she traveled all over the continent very nice

  • @mrkoolkdoingitanewway5740
    @mrkoolkdoingitanewway5740 3 года назад +1

    You guys are great keep up the gre azad t work , I live in Williston S C

  • @cassandrajohnson7326
    @cassandrajohnson7326 3 года назад +5

    Thi is Cassandra Johnson. I believe we volunteered together at The History Center with Deborah Gray. Was that you? I’m amazed.

  • @diannadanyahdandridge8569
    @diannadanyahdandridge8569 3 года назад +2

    I'm so excited to come across this video. I'm moving to Tuskegee, but wish it where Africa. Blessings and enjoy your life there. Please how can I get in touch with you when you return to Tuskege?

    • @nightnyungwe5945
      @nightnyungwe5945 3 года назад

      Or one day take a week off and visit her in Rwanda.

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +2

    Awesome!!

  • @treasurehunter183hunter8
    @treasurehunter183hunter8 3 года назад +1

    The roads not always smooth in America either.....there was a flood in 2016 and a huge hole in the road.it wasn't much water on the road where I was driving but the water had filled a big hole in the road. mind you I was driving a BMW and to repair my car it wasn't cheap well anyway I was going around 40 miles an hour the speed limit was 45. that big pothole in America mess my axle up. I was in a place called Baker Louisiana right on the outskirts of Baton Louisiana. I must stress there are lots of potholes in America and there's lots of good roads just like they're potholes in Africa but there's good roads and highways in Africa as well.

  • @ikechukwuuzoma1079
    @ikechukwuuzoma1079 3 года назад +1

    My lovely people💟💯

  • @sikazwejerry4620
    @sikazwejerry4620 3 года назад +2

    Thank you. We shall use our energy,resources and skills on wealthy creation.So much time is spent on solving unproductive activities. People are looking up to us to make some significant impact in agriculture sector. Time for fighting,quarrelling and name calling shall not be entertained.

  • @germainnimpagaritse1272
    @germainnimpagaritse1272 3 года назад +2

    Do you know that, s you can also just have a look at Burundi ☺️☺️

  • @abdulidi733
    @abdulidi733 3 года назад +12

    My 2 cents comment to our African American people interested in moving to any African country is you gotta have a different mind set. The negativity about Africa has been sold for over 400 years. It’s not going to be easy to change the narratives. Please go & see it for yourself.

  • @terrikirk6883
    @terrikirk6883 3 года назад

    How can I reach her to ask more questions

  • @queenofsheba357
    @queenofsheba357 3 года назад +2

    Peace and blessings from Houston Texas- Katy 77449 ✌🏿

  • @komiczar
    @komiczar 2 года назад +1

    Do not be satisfied with second-hand or third-hand things in life. Do not be satisfied until you have put yourselves into that atmosphere where you can seize and hold on to the very highest and most beautiful things that can be got out of life.”
    ― Booker T. Washington

  • @iriscullen566
    @iriscullen566 3 года назад

    Hey Family. Ooo I’m catching the live today

  • @RichardSmith-pe6ob
    @RichardSmith-pe6ob 2 года назад

    What kind of visas is offered to senior / retirees with fixed incomes

  • @akebullanrising3308
    @akebullanrising3308 3 года назад +2

    Less of the Mickley mouse camera stuff, But carry on with your great content and great to work. #B1

  • @kandeedee2913
    @kandeedee2913 3 года назад

    Weather man dont forget the barometric pressure. Lol .Which can affect your muscles and bones. Does nurses ;nurse practitioners get hired there. Hows the wages? Our family member wants to know. We enjoy you all. And Ala. Bless you all. Peace and blessings

  • @loveandpeace3545
    @loveandpeace3545 3 года назад

    That guy at the end standing in the front yard looks like Jamie Foxx.

  • @sher3571
    @sher3571 3 года назад +3

    Sister How Do I Get
    Some Coconut Flakes to YOU

  • @bintiyangu
    @bintiyangu 3 года назад +3

    She's not that much of a 'senior.' She cant be over 60 and if she is, she does not embody being a 'senior.' Awesome for her though to make the move. Great interview as usual.

  • @AlMahdi2k
    @AlMahdi2k 3 года назад

    My people. I'm going to Uganda next month but plan on visiting Uganda as well. Do they have any vaccine requirements for Americans?

    • @madoxxxx06
      @madoxxxx06 3 года назад

      Only yellow fever, but you should also talk to your physician to be on the safe side. I'd be happy to take you out and show you around when you come, hope you have fun.

  • @brendagbrown1287
    @brendagbrown1287 3 года назад +1

    💜💜💜💜💜💜

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +1

    I thought that was her on the thumbnail!

  • @valencia81750
    @valencia81750 3 года назад

    Great video! I am a senior citizen the USA also. I plan to put Rawanda on my agenda. How do I contact Your guest?

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      pam_avram@yahoo.com

    • @joycecooper498
      @joycecooper498 3 года назад

      I am confused! Which person are you calling a con man?

  • @Azur-Maharo
    @Azur-Maharo 3 года назад +3

    👍

  • @grace2garden403
    @grace2garden403 3 года назад +1

    I know her!!

  • @malka6754
    @malka6754 3 года назад

    Mickey, I love that shirt you have on. How can I order one from there?

    • @Unmad
      @Unmad  3 года назад +1

      Thank you fam! I bought this too in another country.

    • @sifisokaula1870
      @sifisokaula1870 Год назад

      @@Unmad but you look young

  • @paulmill9816
    @paulmill9816 3 года назад +2

    background noise was terrible-could have cut the shoot and settle.

  • @maggielazarre78
    @maggielazarre78 3 года назад +1

    Why don’t they use screens in Africa to keep away the mosquitoes..?

  • @patriciamatthews9390
    @patriciamatthews9390 2 года назад

    💋🇯🇲❤️

  • @lesliesutton3695
    @lesliesutton3695 3 года назад

    Who do we contact for senior apartments

    • @Unmad
      @Unmad  3 года назад +1

      Seniors live all over...there are no designated senior apartments.

    • @blacky8030
      @blacky8030 3 года назад +2

      We dont segregate seniors in africa like in america so anywhere u wish

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      I was trying to say that they don't have senior apartments here like the states. The seniors live everywhere. Sorry if I was misunderstood.

  • @akiikigeeh7283
    @akiikigeeh7283 3 года назад +2

    Please don't kill spiders. They are not poisonous or deadly as portrayed in movies. No black widows or stuff life that unless you venture into the wild jungles

  • @lesliesutton3695
    @lesliesutton3695 3 года назад

    Will be coming for consideration can she be contacted

    • @PC-in4et
      @PC-in4et 3 года назад

      pam_avram@yahoo.com

  • @amhaselassie3608
    @amhaselassie3608 3 года назад +1

    What neighborhood is she living in?

    • @Unmad
      @Unmad  3 года назад +1

      Kibagabaga

  • @hmk..
    @hmk.. 3 года назад +1

    Gorilla trekking...
    is the best thing to do in rwanda.
    but very expensive. about 2,000 usd per person?

  • @bintiyangu
    @bintiyangu 3 года назад +3

    Its so important for the diaspora to do some mental adjustments when going to Afrikan countries ideally before going because the western ways we have really just aren't cool. I think its great that she moved, but she's super westernized. She's very pretty lady and seems super cool, but that western nitpicky way that we have picked up due to being in the SnaKKKes shines through. Just my observation.

    • @marydavis7978
      @marydavis7978 3 года назад +1

      I agree! Got to let go of westernized ways when we move to the Motherland!

  • @burundishallsmile1day109
    @burundishallsmile1day109 3 года назад

    😊😊🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @sher3571
    @sher3571 3 года назад

    Has She Met Mama IMAHKUS

  • @shabagoben9510
    @shabagoben9510 3 года назад +2

    you didn't discuss what it takes to stay in Rwanda, i think that's when you had that outage.

    • @shabagoben9510
      @shabagoben9510 3 года назад

      Can you possibly give some info on what it takes to stay in Rwanda? Or the process that an individual or family would take to move and stay in Rwanda?

    • @nightnyungwe5945
      @nightnyungwe5945 3 года назад +1

      Best thing to do is plan a short visit first.

    • @benny73ism
      @benny73ism 3 года назад +1

      You are better off visiting. Don't rely 100% on others experience in making your decision. What you see on RUclips should only serve as a guide.

  • @plumbing3d22
    @plumbing3d22 3 года назад +1

    Best thing about living in African is the maid service. Fellows, you can go to the open markets and ask any of the beautiful African ladies, "are you looking for work?" No shhhhh. You can try her for a day or two, If you don't like her you can hire another one........

    • @loveandpeace3545
      @loveandpeace3545 3 года назад +2

      @Plumbing 3D - You sound like a creep.

    • @plumbing3d22
      @plumbing3d22 3 года назад

      @@loveandpeace3545 sound like you jealous that a single black man living in African can have a driver, security guard, a cook, a maid, a gardener,...etc.

    • @plumbing3d22
      @plumbing3d22 3 года назад

      @Follow The Light I did say "maid service". You the only one talking about some b.s..😄😄

    • @plumbing3d22
      @plumbing3d22 3 года назад

      @Follow The Light I was simply speaking of the service industry in African.

  • @younglegit7194
    @younglegit7194 3 года назад +2

    Most African Americans resemble East Africans, its so easy to blend in

    • @younglegit7194
      @younglegit7194 3 года назад +1

      @Follow The Light every black American I have met in Dar es salaam looks East African, the locals here cant tell the difference until you start speaking, actually at times locals think black Americans are just uptown Tanzanians pretending they dont know swahili 😂 but Nigerians I can easily tell even from afar

    • @younglegit7194
      @younglegit7194 3 года назад

      @Follow The Light true

    • @joycecooper498
      @joycecooper498 3 года назад

      @Follow The Light as an African American most Nigerians have a round face that is how I know their nationality. Uganda’s seem to all have big cheeks that is how I can tell them

    • @AlMahdi2k
      @AlMahdi2k 3 года назад

      Both are valid statements. Us Black Americans resemble a lot of the Yoruba and Igbo people as most of our ancestors come from them; but due to some admixture with whites some alteration in facial features in a lot of instances could make us resemble East Africans quite often as well.

    • @nightnyungwe5945
      @nightnyungwe5945 3 года назад

      The reality is that there is no one way to look East African. Lupita Nyong'o, Ajuma Nasenyana, Iman, Sauti Sol, Paul Kagame, Ali Kiba, Bobi Wine are all East Africans. There is no one way to look East African.
      When you talk about Africa, you have to remember that you are talking about the world's most genetically diverse continent.
      But yes, most African Americans came from West Africa and Central Africa with a larger proportion of the latter ending up in South America (Afro Brazilians for example).

  • @kwamebushman606
    @kwamebushman606 3 года назад +1

    I like seeing YOUNGER people move to Africa instead of old retired people walking with sticks. You'll be a burden in Africa if you're already sick here and walking with a stick

  • @zulmerixisheckman9135
    @zulmerixisheckman9135 3 года назад

    It seems 2 me, that almost and every time you are doing a LIVE VIDEO, you are not prepared with FOCUSING and volume.
    Please remember the 7 P’s
    PROPER
    PRIOR
    PLANNING
    PREVENTS
    PURPOSE
    POOR
    PERFORMANCE