as a tank main i honestly dont feel like bastion is too bad Mei, Sombra, Sym tho its awful, not even other tanks counter that hard and they should actually change it even Ana's nade or Zens discord is not as bad as getting counter swoped with these DPS
I actually kinda agree. While we have 1 tank, we need the tank to be harder to counter so hard. I play a lot of Mei and i have to say its BS how much value i get against tanks. It doesnt feel fair when theres only the 1 either @alexanderhernandez2403
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Echo can be really good into sigma. He denies most of her poke/spam playstyle but when you dive: you can dodge his rock with flight; you have great shield breaking so he can’t protect himself or his squishies for too long; and sig likes to grasp at about 50% which gives you a really easy beam kill.
that's actually a great question! it mainly comes down to her wall. the best Mei players will save wall against most comps to prevent the enemy tank from receiving resources from their team. if you're playing a tank who relies on their team, or who doesn't have any form of vertical mobility, that Mei wall basically acts like a realllly long anti nade :')
@@BaileysOver It feels so satisfying playing around the counters and finding value with Doom as well, it makes it feel like all the time you invest in the character is worth it. Still painful though lol
I like tracer vs zarya, as she has really high instant burst and is really hard for zarya to track, she can recall a lot of that dmg she takes, and if Zarya’s low she can burn through the bubble without enough dmg downtime for zarya to get another one before she shreds zarya’s lower health pool and lack of armor
yeah Tracer can work well into Zarya, since she's hitscan she has pretty good control over not feeding into bubbles! the only reason I didn't put her down as a counter is bc Zarya's bubbles are reallllly good at protecting dive targets, which can be annoying as Tracer :')
I'd say Bastion's ability to counter Ball depends heavily on the map, since turret mode means he's easy to get booped off of cliffs or even just high ground
Probably yeah! The only reason I didn't add him for Zarya is that you can often accidentally melt an entire bubble against her. If the Zarya player is good, she'll use that to her advantage!
@@BaileysOver Can definitely agree. Most Bastions dont realize when a good Zarya is in the game, and continue to spray bubbles. Burning through Bubbles and the Zar only works for people who don't know how Zar works, or they see 100 charge and just push into the open.
As a ball main bastion does not counter ball Mei is a hard counter all ball has to do is wait out turret form and he can disengage and re-engage quickly
I only say Bastion is a counter for the fact that Ball is completely out of action every time he uses his turret form... but that goes for most tanks in this game tbf :')
@@BaileysOver maybe I just never had a issue against him you can dive him he is slow with a big hitbox and you can boop him easily his turret form takes a while to get back I find things that stop or stun your movement way more deadly
for Reinhardt counters I think JunkRat also deals absolutely immense damage to his shield that can easily break it down + whenever the Reinhardt tries to get closer to him he can simply throw his bombs and fly away making him a strong counter to Reinhardt in my opinion
@AJ_UK18 then it would be always meta characters all matches, and if one team gets unlucky, the enemy might unintentionally hard counter, like picked sombra vs a Wrecking Ball. Then Wrecking is stuck with a character that can't do anything while the enemy counter them. They should rebalance almost all character if not all of them soo that abilities don't counter others as much, like Baps Lamp is a big middle finger to almost all abilities in the game. Or Kiriko cleanse countering entire characters kit and etc
@@MarcosPaulo-su6ex well that’s why overwatch is a team based game that literally requires teamwork to win the game so yes ofc sombra will defeat wrecking ball only in 1v1 but not in 5v5 situations for example wrecking ball can just be a bait for sombra to reveal herself so the wrecking ball’s dps teammate such as widowmaker or Ashe or Hanzo can quick assassinate her, so although there are some heroes who r a meta or busted asf, that won’t matter if u start teamworking together
@@MarcosPaulo-su6ex I main junkrat so I have counter picking experience quite often such as dva, pharah, echo, mercy, Juno or what I like to call it “5 flying bitches in air” but that doesn’t force me to counter swap instead I forced myself to master junkrat more and kept finding new ways/strategies to beat them by teamworking with my teammates or by interacting with environments surrounding or getting better at performing the perfect timing to take the opportunity etc mainly teamworking is the most effective but having multiple ideas or strategies helps u mastering ur main hero
@AJ_UK18 the problem there is that, you can't rely on randoms 99% of the time, and even if you play perfectly, there is not much you can do if the enemy team also plays perfectly. What if the sombra player doesn't fall for that wrecking ball bait? Then you would just waste time. Don't you remember that game where a Pharah saw the entire enemy team, told all teammates what they're facing and then they counterpicked the enemy team?
I would add torb as a counter to rein. It's super easy to spam his shield out even without your turret, if he charges it'll likely be into range of your turret, and torb can tank a charge if he's in overdrive or whatever.
The short answer for bastion and mei, are their most basic functions: bastion output dmg, and mei slow and ice wall utility. The nuance comes in with how bastion has to deal with the rest of the team. Yes he melts tanks, but then what if a genji comes in to deflect everything? What if he gets outranged by snipers? Theres positioning and advantageous dps matchups that can prevent him from snowballing. As for mei, while on paper, it sounds like she counters most of the tanks, shes also a very niche pick. Her dmg output is much lower, and most people arent that clutch with her wall positioning. She can kind of do a little bit of everything with some ranged poke, brawling, stall. But her skill ceiling is so high, actually using her consistently against other dps is the main challenge. Yes, she can separate people from their allies, but she can get ganged up on so easily if shes not careful
Bastion doesn't counter Doom. As Doom mobility rate is high which is almost non existent for Bastion. He can block and get his punch quick if played right.
What I do is if the doom is kinda mid and wastes his cooldowns use recon mode from a medium distance to bait him to block make sure not to charge him or let him run back to healers then just turret mode spray if he is low health and their support are not fast healers such as zen then keep spraying even if he block
I found out that against platinum players torb can do a lot to a mauga. Overload with secondary fire can do a ton of damage & molten core in his cage fight ultimate makes mauga the one that's actually trapped. Also i feel like it's really easy to get headshots on him. The only downside is that your turret becomes useless so you'll have to put it in really specific spots that are hard to shoot at that has environmental cover. Sojurn is also pretty good against ball since it's so easy to charge her weapon with such a big target & you just slide away from most of his damage (depending on the map)
As a reinhardt player, i think that bastion isn't that much of a counter, his low mobility makes him a easy target to reinhardt skills, so everytime a bastion tries to kill me, i just charge at him and kill him easily I think that reaper and sombra are much more effective against rein, cause of their ways to quickly dodge him (but well, those can be counter to basically everything in this game because of how busted they are)
wym... a bastion will melt rein's shield, leaving him pretty much useless, letting the tank or other heroes kill him easily. Any good bastion will just shoot the shield, so his team can kill him or his support. The main purpose of rein is to protect his support while moving forward.
Echo’s beam can actually be really good against Dva due to it doing more dmg when she’s under half heath and it being a beam, so I’m a little confused why Echo got the red outline.
About ball i would say mei is more menacing then bastion, every her ability can slow down ball movment (exepct icicle). Movement on ball is live, so i would add junkrat with his trap. Its aint a good counterpick but if trap will be place good and you get caught, its basically insta death
I struggle playing against winston even when I play reaper (I main reaper). winston is just so fast, and the bubble sheild is so hard for me to deal with.
2:23 Reaper hasn't been much of an issue when playing Mauga but then again I've played only like what 20 games with him? Edit: Echo is a pretty good counter. Hanzo has been, "meh" Mei has been a good counter. I haven't encountered the last DPS as Mauga yet. Edit 2: Ah, I forgot this is pre-nerf Reaper.
I like to use bastion and reaper against zarya too just to melt her bubbles when needed Like if she uses her bubbles in a foolish way making a mistake or some kind Just from my experience tho
for sure! the only reason I'd call this an even matchup is bc Bastion can often accidentally burst bubbles with his insane damage, and a good Zarya can use that to her advantage. definitely not a bad matchup if you're smart about it tho!
So not only do Mei and Bastion basically counter every Tank, their Ultimates practically sync with each other too. An opposing team's DPS and/or Support would have to be counterpicks.
As a Rein Main i've got more problems against good junkrats than good bastions, also if sym hasnt already set up shop (at which point shes good against most heroes), i think its kinda the opposite, i'd rather say rein is the counter to sym.
You don't know how frustrating it is as a support player when I tell my stubborn ass dps to switch to counter a hero, they only know to play one hero and not even best at it
Sym needs to be close to charge her beam. She is just not a counter to sigma, you can rock her and she will try to flee making her an easy lineup with orbs. She tries to charge her beam off your shield, recall it. Her turret bombs are melted with aoe orbs. Her level 3 beam can be annoying during kinetic grasp, but just play cover and highground and she can’t really do anything but out-mobility you with her tp. Echo and mei are more annoying.
As a ball main, Im not entirely sure about bastion being a counter. Bastion has poor mobility and can easily be flanked and disrupted by ball, granting a quick kill from behind due to bastions crit hitbox or at the very least cancelling out his turret form. On the sombra note, absolutely sombra kinda just ruins the hamsters day.
I definitely feel like Sojourn is a GREAT pick into him, but I wanted to red tier to be active shutdown to the hero. Sojourn you kinda farm rail and ignore the Mauga, but Reaper can actually impact Mauga himself in the right moments... especially with Mauga getting nerfed 😎
I am gonna say something which most of you guys wont agree on: Counterpicking doesnt exist! Lets say you play genji and they play zarya, moira and sym then they dont counter you they just counter you deflect but you still can shoot at them and kill them your deflect will just be usless against them but you arent getting counterpicked! There is no such thing as counterpicking in ow and to prove my point just watch awkward who uploaded videos where he plays d.va vs zarya who should "counter" d.va or doom into sombra, ana and hog and he still wins. (And sry if my english is bad not a native english speaker)
Mei is a more consistent counter to Dva for me. Sure on paper theres nothjng dva can do to sym lasers, but Dva still can kill a sym faster than her getting dva out of mech. For Mei, shes tankier and she can snipe dva.
Mei is just a all rounded character theres nothing she cant do but she doesn't excel at anything dps wise. She can poke but not as good as Ashe. she can brawl but not as good as bastion. She depends on her wall to win
Bastion is soft counter to orisa. SOFT????? He is her best counter as he doesnt care that she cant be crit in fortify as he cant crit in turret making him her best counter
soft counters are still good into the hero! it just means that Orisa has SOME counterplay, especially now that she can poke from narnia without getting into a Bastion's effective range :)
Cuz he’s the main final boss villain in overwatch lore as reaper, sombra, widowmaker and Moria works for him and also dps doomfist is apparently very broken in overwatch 1 due to great mobility and short cooldown time with passive ability that increase temporary health by damaging his enemies he’s basically very strong in 6v6
When you realize you play the hero and the hero doesn't play you. And then you realize counters dont exist. If counters do work, then why is there a Pharah rank 1 across all 3 regions when the enemies are picking counters to clunter the Pharah? Plus counter swapping is senseless because itll just be an endless loop of swapping heroes.
Guess Mei and bastion just counter everything huh
I thought that when making this video... but it's kinda true :') their kits make them both great tank counters!
as a tank main i honestly dont feel like bastion is too bad
Mei, Sombra, Sym tho
its awful, not even other tanks counter that hard and they should actually change it
even Ana's nade or Zens discord is not as bad as getting counter swoped with these DPS
Personally, I use the same DPS to counter every tank. Sometimes, it works, but in some games, my aim sucks
I actually kinda agree. While we have 1 tank, we need the tank to be harder to counter so hard. I play a lot of Mei and i have to say its BS how much value i get against tanks. It doesnt feel fair when theres only the 1 either @alexanderhernandez2403
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Echo can be really good into sigma. He denies most of her poke/spam playstyle but when you dive: you can dodge his rock with flight; you have great shield breaking so he can’t protect himself or his squishies for too long; and sig likes to grasp at about 50% which gives you a really easy beam kill.
yeah that's true! you can also just totally fly over whichever angle the Sigma is shielding, so she can be pretty effective on most maps :)
How the fuck is Mei a counter to like… all the tanks. Wtf bro.
that's actually a great question! it mainly comes down to her wall. the best Mei players will save wall against most comps to prevent the enemy tank from receiving resources from their team. if you're playing a tank who relies on their team, or who doesn't have any form of vertical mobility, that Mei wall basically acts like a realllly long anti nade :')
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•Diva 1:03
•Domfist 1:33
•Junkerquin 2:05
•Moga 2:34
•Orisa 2:59
•Ramatra 3:23
•Reintart 3:50
•Porco 4:17
•Winston 5:24
•Wacring ball 5:48
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you have time to delete this I dont want people countering my doom every match
Too late
you're doom is done for
LOL I've been learning Doom this season and... yeah it's immensely painful playing counterwatch :')
@@BaileysOver It feels so satisfying playing around the counters and finding value with Doom as well, it makes it feel like all the time you invest in the character is worth it. Still painful though lol
Your doom is DOOMED!
It happens even if this video didn’t exist
Nice video, I would just add Junkrat as a Reinhard counter, mainly cause his bombs are very effective against shield
I like tracer vs zarya, as she has really high instant burst and is really hard for zarya to track, she can recall a lot of that dmg she takes, and if Zarya’s low she can burn through the bubble without enough dmg downtime for zarya to get another one before she shreds zarya’s lower health pool and lack of armor
yeah Tracer can work well into Zarya, since she's hitscan she has pretty good control over not feeding into bubbles! the only reason I didn't put her down as a counter is bc Zarya's bubbles are reallllly good at protecting dive targets, which can be annoying as Tracer :')
Characters like symethra,mei and bastion are just insane when its about the tanks,but against most dps ther are just bad tbh
I'd say Bastion's ability to counter Ball depends heavily on the map, since turret mode means he's easy to get booped off of cliffs or even just high ground
bastion isnt realy a counter its just his turret form is such high damage. out of turret form he cant really do anything
good list id say bastion counters hog and zarya really effectively as well
Probably yeah! The only reason I didn't add him for Zarya is that you can often accidentally melt an entire bubble against her. If the Zarya player is good, she'll use that to her advantage!
@@BaileysOver Can definitely agree. Most Bastions dont realize when a good Zarya is in the game, and continue to spray bubbles. Burning through Bubbles and the Zar only works for people who don't know how Zar works, or they see 100 charge and just push into the open.
As a ball main bastion does not counter ball Mei is a hard counter all ball has to do is wait out turret form and he can disengage and re-engage quickly
I only say Bastion is a counter for the fact that Ball is completely out of action every time he uses his turret form... but that goes for most tanks in this game tbf :')
@@BaileysOver maybe I just never had a issue against him you can dive him he is slow with a big hitbox and you can boop him easily his turret form takes a while to get back I find things that stop or stun your movement way more deadly
great video, could you make one talking about how to counter the heroes of each roll
“But counter picking doesn’t exist, you’re just bad”. Shouldn’t have to be wayyyyyyy better than everyone just to rank up.
Teamates whining because I swapped off Doomfist against a Sombra, Ana, and Roadhog
this is the #1 philosophy I disagree with when it comes to Overwatch 2, but that's the meta we live in rn :')
"Shouldn't have to be better to rank up" My guy, that's the point of comp in any game, to be better and prove it by earning that rank
When playing ball you just have to bait bastion into turret form and then roll away. As soon as it's over he's really easy to pick off
for Reinhardt counters I think JunkRat also deals absolutely immense damage to his shield that can easily break it down + whenever the Reinhardt tries to get closer to him he can simply throw his bombs and fly away making him a strong counter to Reinhardt in my opinion
Counter pick is what make this game A$$ to play
Yh that’s why we need locked heroes after prep time’s over
@AJ_UK18 then it would be always meta characters all matches, and if one team gets unlucky, the enemy might unintentionally hard counter, like picked sombra vs a Wrecking Ball. Then Wrecking is stuck with a character that can't do anything while the enemy counter them. They should rebalance almost all character if not all of them soo that abilities don't counter others as much, like Baps Lamp is a big middle finger to almost all abilities in the game. Or Kiriko cleanse countering entire characters kit and etc
@@MarcosPaulo-su6ex well that’s why overwatch is a team based game that literally requires teamwork to win the game so yes ofc sombra will defeat wrecking ball only in 1v1 but not in 5v5 situations for example wrecking ball can just be a bait for sombra to reveal herself so the wrecking ball’s dps teammate such as widowmaker or Ashe or Hanzo can quick assassinate her, so although there are some heroes who r a meta or busted asf, that won’t matter if u start teamworking together
@@MarcosPaulo-su6ex I main junkrat so I have counter picking experience quite often such as dva, pharah, echo, mercy, Juno or what I like to call it “5 flying bitches in air” but that doesn’t force me to counter swap instead I forced myself to master junkrat more and kept finding new ways/strategies to beat them by teamworking with my teammates or by interacting with environments surrounding or getting better at performing the perfect timing to take the opportunity etc mainly teamworking is the most effective but having multiple ideas or strategies helps u mastering ur main hero
@AJ_UK18 the problem there is that, you can't rely on randoms 99% of the time, and even if you play perfectly, there is not much you can do if the enemy team also plays perfectly. What if the sombra player doesn't fall for that wrecking ball bait? Then you would just waste time. Don't you remember that game where a Pharah saw the entire enemy team, told all teammates what they're facing and then they counterpicked the enemy team?
I would add torb as a counter to rein. It's super easy to spam his shield out even without your turret, if he charges it'll likely be into range of your turret, and torb can tank a charge if he's in overdrive or whatever.
The short answer for bastion and mei, are their most basic functions: bastion output dmg, and mei slow and ice wall utility. The nuance comes in with how bastion has to deal with the rest of the team. Yes he melts tanks, but then what if a genji comes in to deflect everything? What if he gets outranged by snipers? Theres positioning and advantageous dps matchups that can prevent him from snowballing.
As for mei, while on paper, it sounds like she counters most of the tanks, shes also a very niche pick. Her dmg output is much lower, and most people arent that clutch with her wall positioning. She can kind of do a little bit of everything with some ranged poke, brawling, stall. But her skill ceiling is so high, actually using her consistently against other dps is the main challenge. Yes, she can separate people from their allies, but she can get ganged up on so easily if shes not careful
Bastion doesn't counter Doom. As Doom mobility rate is high which is almost non existent for Bastion. He can block and get his punch quick if played right.
What I do is if the doom is kinda mid and wastes his cooldowns use recon mode from a medium distance to bait him to block make sure not to charge him or let him run back to healers then just turret mode spray if he is low health and their support are not fast healers such as zen then keep spraying even if he block
Yeah you can escape bastion turret form and then jump back on bastion once it's cool down.
especialy when bastion turret is a 12sec cd
I found out that against platinum players torb can do a lot to a mauga. Overload with secondary fire can do a ton of damage & molten core in his cage fight ultimate makes mauga the one that's actually trapped. Also i feel like it's really easy to get headshots on him. The only downside is that your turret becomes useless so you'll have to put it in really specific spots that are hard to shoot at that has environmental cover. Sojurn is also pretty good against ball since it's so easy to charge her weapon with such a big target & you just slide away from most of his damage (depending on the map)
As a reinhardt player, i think that bastion isn't that much of a counter, his low mobility makes him a easy target to reinhardt skills, so everytime a bastion tries to kill me, i just charge at him and kill him easily
I think that reaper and sombra are much more effective against rein, cause of their ways to quickly dodge him (but well, those can be counter to basically everything in this game because of how busted they are)
wym... a bastion will melt rein's shield, leaving him pretty much useless, letting the tank or other heroes kill him easily.
Any good bastion will just shoot the shield, so his team can kill him or his support.
The main purpose of rein is to protect his support while moving forward.
Echo’s beam can actually be really good against Dva due to it doing more dmg when she’s under half heath and it being a beam, so I’m a little confused why Echo got the red outline.
In my opinion sigma is pretty good into Junkrat, sigma can out poke him both of his defensive cooldowns can mitigate most of Junkrat spam damage.
True tbh! Sigma plays decent into Junk :)
yeah but if junkrat tries to flank then sigma rlly cant do much
As a tank main mei is probably the least fun dps to play against. It feels so bad getting walled off.
yeah we truly needed this huh
the tank role is already ruined, may as well add fuel to the fire :'(
About ball i would say mei is more menacing then bastion, every her ability can slow down ball movment (exepct icicle). Movement on ball is live, so i would add junkrat with his trap. Its aint a good counterpick but if trap will be place good and you get caught, its basically insta death
I struggle playing against winston even when I play reaper (I main reaper). winston is just so fast, and the bubble sheild is so hard for me to deal with.
I think it’s more of a play style and skill. . I’ve seen the worse counter pics whoop ass
2:23 Reaper hasn't been much of an issue when playing Mauga but then again I've played only like what 20 games with him?
Edit: Echo is a pretty good counter. Hanzo has been, "meh" Mei has been a good counter. I haven't encountered the last DPS as Mauga yet.
Edit 2: Ah, I forgot this is pre-nerf Reaper.
Can confirm, Pharah can 1v1 most tanks if you’re good enough
pretty sure the title's wrong, game's called "Counterwatch 2" since all you actually have to do to win, is counter the enemies :)
LOL this is painfully true...
How could Reaper possibly do anything to Mauga. Was this before the armor change?
So Rein isn't good against any DPS?
I like to use bastion and reaper against zarya too just to melt her bubbles when needed
Like if she uses her bubbles in a foolish way making a mistake or some kind
Just from my experience tho
for sure! the only reason I'd call this an even matchup is bc Bastion can often accidentally burst bubbles with his insane damage, and a good Zarya can use that to her advantage. definitely not a bad matchup if you're smart about it tho!
So not only do Mei and Bastion basically counter every Tank, their Ultimates practically sync with each other too. An opposing team's DPS and/or Support would have to be counterpicks.
I disagree with the tracer counters doom, I can’t kill a tracer pretty effectively if you know her tp distance
so pick mei and counter everyone. Boring
As a Rein Main i've got more problems against good junkrats than good bastions, also if sym hasnt already set up shop (at which point shes good against most heroes), i think its kinda the opposite, i'd rather say rein is the counter to sym.
Oh so this is why im getting counter picked more
You don't know how frustrating it is as a support player when I tell my stubborn ass dps to switch to counter a hero, they only know to play one hero and not even best at it
If the counters always are mei, zym, bastion, reaper. Does not look like a hard to think list
How is echo not a counter for sig
Against mauga please
Don't go reaper
As a Genji main i can confirm that we only counter healing.
Sym needs to be close to charge her beam. She is just not a counter to sigma, you can rock her and she will try to flee making her an easy lineup with orbs. She tries to charge her beam off your shield, recall it. Her turret bombs are melted with aoe orbs. Her level 3 beam can be annoying during kinetic grasp, but just play cover and highground and she can’t really do anything but out-mobility you with her tp. Echo and mei are more annoying.
As a ball main, Im not entirely sure about bastion being a counter.
Bastion has poor mobility and can easily be flanked and disrupted by ball, granting a quick kill from behind due to bastions crit hitbox or at the very least cancelling out his turret form.
On the sombra note, absolutely sombra kinda just ruins the hamsters day.
ur right, bastion does not counter ball;
he help killing a ball but thats it
saying reaper is better into mauga than sojourn is insane
I definitely feel like Sojourn is a GREAT pick into him, but I wanted to red tier to be active shutdown to the hero. Sojourn you kinda farm rail and ignore the Mauga, but Reaper can actually impact Mauga himself in the right moments... especially with Mauga getting nerfed 😎
Orisa. Wido
Dva. Echo
Rodhog. Phara
Winston. Brigitte
All the other zenyatta
I am gonna say something which most of you guys wont agree on:
Counterpicking doesnt exist! Lets say you play genji and they play zarya, moira and sym then they dont counter you they just counter you deflect but you still can shoot at them and kill them your deflect will just be usless against them but you arent getting counterpicked! There is no such thing as counterpicking in ow and to prove my point just watch awkward who uploaded videos where he plays d.va vs zarya who should "counter" d.va or doom into sombra, ana and hog and he still wins.
(And sry if my english is bad not a native english speaker)
Mei is a more consistent counter to Dva for me. Sure on paper theres nothjng dva can do to sym lasers, but Dva still can kill a sym faster than her getting dva out of mech. For Mei, shes tankier and she can snipe dva.
Bro forgot that junkrat exist, and hes green or yellow for many tanks like, rein, rama, mauga, orisa
basically just pick mei, you probably fine
As a Sigma Main I crush all my counters every single day except sombra
did he forget about soldier:76
Mei is just a all rounded character theres nothing she cant do but she doesn't excel at anything dps wise. She can poke but not as good as Ashe. she can brawl but not as good as bastion. She depends on her wall to win
yeah she's actually super underrated imo! probs my fave brawl hero in the game rn :)
Main tank counter: The devil
Peak for Gold?
NO way is bastion a soft counter pick to Orisa. HE is an EASY kill with Orisa anytime. Symetra is a hard counter
soft counter bc of spin
Bastion is soft counter to orisa. SOFT????? He is her best counter as he doesnt care that she cant be crit in fortify as he cant crit in turret making him her best counter
soft counters are still good into the hero! it just means that Orisa has SOME counterplay, especially now that she can poke from narnia without getting into a Bastion's effective range :)
Bastion is a tank destroyer
Somb can take down everyone includin DPS n supps
Bro is mei maxxing
Why doomfist is tank i dont understand
Cuz he’s the main final boss villain in overwatch lore as reaper, sombra, widowmaker and Moria works for him and also dps doomfist is apparently very broken in overwatch 1 due to great mobility and short cooldown time with passive ability that increase temporary health by damaging his enemies he’s basically very strong in 6v6
so basically mei is an icon iktr
why does he say bastion like that
WHYYYYYYYYYYY
Stop providing them info, its just unbearable
blame Blizzard... counterwatch is the game now :(
@@BaileysOver don't give them good advices, at least (((
Spread misinformation
Zarya has no dps counters low key.
junk rat can counter every tank in the game
Symmetra does not counter Ramattra
Well lets just make tanks even less fun to play.
i only came here to see how to counter zarya, most unfun thing to vs in enirety of OW, besides sombra
Buff rein, that's all im saying
AGREE
mei is the best anti-tank
Tracer soft counters sigma? What?
Poor genji
Pick Mei.
This video is very very wrong 😂
Just switch to Mei
Bro mei is op asf
And i play genji 🫠
Saying that you should not shoot at zarya bubble is the single worst advice you can give in zarya matchup
When you realize you play the hero and the hero doesn't play you. And then you realize counters dont exist.
If counters do work, then why is there a Pharah rank 1 across all 3 regions when the enemies are picking counters to clunter the Pharah? Plus counter swapping is senseless because itll just be an endless loop of swapping heroes.
You have time to delete this , i don't want my poor rein to get counter every game
Loser mode
Remove mei from the game. So cheap and boring
just dropping by to dislike