neO unplugged all the witches from the star wars matrix simulator at once from the outside. a lot like when you watch this show, the body cannot live without the mind.
Because of Rian Johnson, the closest I've come to Disney Star Wars has been the hate reviews. Now they're blaming channels like Critical Drinker for poor ticket sales, which might be true, but only after they got it right on crappy movies I watched and hated, while all the MSM and "critics" loved them. Once the Fandom Menace got it right, time after time, I trust them. I might miss something good, but I really doubt it. Now, I find the Fandom Menace to be more entertaining than anything Disney.
The worst thing about TLJ was that it killed our hopes and our greatest SW heroes. With the Acolyte, nobody even cares anymore. So how could it be worse?
that's the indicator how how much worse it is, that it shouldn't be able to be worse and yet it still is. at the very very least TLJ had better pacing and visuals and set and prob design.
The writers were trying to create a story that made the Jedi look evil. When virtually everything they did was justified. Than their actions post event, make no sense. They are beyond the worst writers i've seen from a studio. Or there was editing/reshoots going on. That cut things out. Because they knew they crossed a line so far. There be no one left who would like SW at all. Nothing was setup for any characters justification. And episode 3 directly lies to the audience. With tons of continuity errors. When we see episode 7. Example: In episode 3. Osha is going through a tunnel. Where she looks up through a grate. She hears the Witches scream, bright light flash, and an explosion. ALL the Witches are dead. Before the reactor blows up. They blatantly lied. The Witches when they where controlling the Wookie. Were in a room, on stairs. In episode 3, their bodies are in a room with no stairs. Also, the explosion would have crushed their bodies. And burned the remains. So, what? Someone moved the bodies to this location. Not possible. And Sol walked passed them. Second, Mae this whole time acted like she didn't know what happened. SHE WAS PRESENT. When everything happened. She's not 4 years old. Were she has no memories. But they played her characters as: I don't know. It's like she's Goofy in an episode of Goof Troop. Either someone has the power to alter the memories of 7 characters. Across the Galaxy. Or the writers are GARBAGE.
@Mr.E_Bodhako At least TLJ could be called "good." It was serviceable in the areas of visuals and sound... just not when it comes to it's handling of the IP (which is debatable. I don't think we were completely lost at that point and could have recovered in the next movie... though that didn't happen). From what I've heard of the Acolyte, it sounds like a nonsensical waste of 180 million.
TLJ did not have good pacing, stop. They are both bad in different ways, TLJ was bad but it was so messed up already by switching directors, not writing an outline, etc.. While the acolyte is about the most distilled bad writing I have ever seen.. wanted to make a story that showed the Jedi as bad guys and failed miserably.. you have to be in a cult yourself to justify almost anything the witches did, and lack basic reasoning if you think anything the Jedi did was not logical in the situation.. Crazy how few lines you need to add to line up people's actions to the story the director wanted to tell, but just never wrote those lines.. Also every male Jedi is over emotional and a borderline imbecile while only female jedis have the competency actually solve problems and end conflicts.. I'm not mad at this but it makes bland basic ass predictable characters.
I dunno, the Jedi straight up broke into their home. I feel fucking with them is kind of self defense. It’s all still dumb but I think they’re so bad at writing that the “bad guys” aren’t characterized as bad. Just dumb. Everything and everyone is dumb to the max, especially the writers…
@@EmptyAltruism The home of some shady group who tries to hide. Cause you know at average this is not done by paranoid people on an eternal escape run, but by criminal organizations involved in all kinds of harmful activities. They also mindpossess people and turn into demon looking entities too. No wonder people feared them. These "witches" have zero selfawareness. _" How about NOT wielding such powers? "_ But oh no we can't have that. _" My personal powerfantasy. "_ this is what they said 100%.
Remember the scene when clone troopers were despairing during a hopeless moment, saying "We're just clones, sir. We're meant to be expendable." And Jedi Master Plo Koon said, "Not to me." Yeah, you're never convincing me the Jedi are the bad guys.
I already loved Plo Koon ever since he appeared in a game called Jedi power battles wielding a yellow lightsaber Scenes like this from clone wars only further made him a firm favourite
@@pistolbobcat5374 Plus it's a wise outlook in general. Even if clones are expendable in the grand scheme of things, generals still have to work with the clones that are _right there_ Plus they are still not as expendable as droids.
I don't see HOW the Jedi could be the bad guys. If they commit evil acts, they would become sith. Unless I misunderstand, it takes control and vigilance to prevent from going to the dark side (at least that's my understanding from movies 3-6). They have to actively keep themselves from succumbing to the dark side.
It's interesting that according to Headland, the parent who caused the pregnancy has a greater claim to the child(ren) than the parent who carried the pregnancy.
It's also interesting that nobody really cares about any of that hocus pocus anymore. Like, honestly, if the agenda is to forward the LGBT cause, Headland did the LGBT community dirty by portraying nothing more than a highly dysfunctional group of lesbians who behave collectively EXACTLY like how we would stereotype a bunch of lesbians.....
Disney killed Star Wars with TLJ. The Kenobi series was Disney digging up the corpse and pissing all over it. Quoting Luke "There's nothing for me here now."
Obi Wan show was decent. Not great. Not terrible. Some niggles. Reeva a bit of a distraction, but I couldn't care less about Inquisitors and the fan weeping with regards her is somewhat comical.
@@Podemeister Reeva was mid at best and wasn't the biggest problem. HOWEVER, sneaking little Leia out of a highly fortified outpost under a trench coat over Jedi robes with guards all around was an unbelievably bad low point. Among so many other bad plot holes you could float a DeathStar through. I could only ignore the logic portion of my brain for so long.
Nah, Disney killed it when they first acquired it. Anyone remember the presser with the dancing Vader and stormtroopers? It just took people a while to noitice that the corpse was getting a bit ripe.
@@Podemeister The actress playing Reeva is truly dreadful. She cant act at all. I dont know if its her, the script or the character that makes it that way or all three. But her early scenes in the first few episodes are cringe worthy bad. When she gets angry and stroppy like a teenager and so on. She is dire. And she stands out really badly against all the others, till baby Leia shows up, In the last couple of episodes Reeva has improved slightly she is less over the top and it seems slightly less like she is reading lines off an autocue...all I know is I never want to see that actress again in anything else. Ever. If she is in something I would want to watch I will avoid it, she was truly a bad actress....
Imagine a Star Wars sequel trilogy where we get an older, wiser, more powerful Luke Jedi Master who restarted the Jedi Academy and has a Jedi Master who was once his padawan and a whole new class of Jedi and padawans. Then they could have introduced Luke's child or Han's and Leia or both for that matter as the protagonists. Luke could have gone out protecting the Academy and saving the lives of the entire Academy and gone out as a hero. Instead they destroyed a beloved character, one who had enough hope to try and successfully turn his father away from the dark side, and turned him into a hermit that turned his back on everyone and abandoned his friends... and tried to kill a padawan because of a dream. So f'ing stupid and sad
It would even work with what Disney's crapped out. You could make Rey and Kylo cousins; say, Rey is Leia's daughter with Han, and Kylo is Luke's son with Mara. They were in the temple, training, as toddlers. Jedi preschool. Luke was out on a mission, checking out rumors of a new evil rising in the galaxy, remnants of Imperial fleets coming together, generals turned warlords after the fall bowing down to a new leader. The temple gets attacked by the FO, taking out the Jedi, their biggest threat. Kylo is kidnapped to be trained in the dark side. Rey escaped on the last transport out with a nanny. Luke thinks they're both dead, that's why he becomes a recluse, he failed to protect them, and to protect the Jedi. That's why Han is out in space running around, he thinks his child is still alive, that's why Leia isn't with him, she thinks he's nuts. That's why Rey could use the force on such a high level without being trained, she's been trained, as a child. That's why she can fly the Millennium Falcon, she grew up on that ship. Rey and Kylo's personal connection is strong, because they're family, and they trained in the academy as toddlers. Rey's "family" isn't really family, they're adoptive. The nanny gave them money, told them to keep her hidden, and left to inform her real parents. Didn't make it. That's why she's stuck on some backwater planet. ..or something like that. I could fix it.
You fans have more realistic story line imagination for a successful SW continuation then all of Disney...think about that, what a s**t-show Disney imagination has become.
@@billpassmore3541 lol, well I'm not surprised. It's not that difficult to imagine , it's what most people wanted to see in a sequel and Disney shit the bed.
I wish they'd have just made movies out of some of the Legends stories. They could have done so much. Luke's Jedi Academy, the Vong Invasion, Darth Caedus.... you could do like 15 movies out of those three things and I didn't even list Thrawn (the live action Thrawn sucks ass by the way, he looks like fuckin' Data from Star Trek)
Remember when being a Master Jedi meant something? They were strong, smart, wise, and tried to do the right thing. Here, they all act like they participate awards
I remember. But here's the trick. Just know Disney Star Wars aint even star wars. And Nothing about the Jedi have changed. Its still Obi Wan teaching look the force. It's still Master Yoda on Dagoba. It's still Anikin Pod Racing and flying Naboo StarFighters. It's still Wedge helping luke in a New Hope destroy the Death Star. It's still Luke showing compassion and bravery against the most evil entity on any planet to save his Father.... Nothing, i say NOTHING. Rian Johnson or the Disney Devils come up with will change The Jedi Masters and the Power of the Force. May the force be with you..... Always. Through it all.
Bonus insanity: Headland clarified in an interview that Aniseya’s smoke monster routine was her trying to murder-suicide herself and Mae. She phrased it as attempting to ‘transform them [both] into the Force,’ but the last thing we saw described that was for sliced in half by a lightsaber. So yeah, Sol was even _more_ in the right than he appeared to be.
What STRANGE character motivations... And I thought the WEIRDEST idea was to have Mae decide to KILL her sister so that Ohsa wouldn't go with the Jedi and leave Mae alone... How does that Fly in a WRITER'S ROOM? OK, Mae doesn't want her sister Ohsa to leave, so Mae's decision is to KILL OHSA with FIRE! Does that sound good GIRLS? And now we have the Witch Mother KILLING HERSELF & HER CHILD, because I GUESS she thinks that otherwise the Jedi will take both kids? Where does this 'If I Can't Have it NO ONE CAN' attitude come from?
@@thelaughingrougeno it doesn’t. That is jealousy thing and has roots all the way back to the dawn of man. Boomers seem good at it, but not where it came from
Torbin is one of the most stupid things they put in the show. I agree that there wasn't enough time for him to become a master and meditate for years. It also makes no sense that he felt guilty because he was a victim (according to the show itself), and if his mind was so broken that he thought he deserved to die, he surely could not become a master due to these mental issues (which would be an interesting talking point honestly, but they don't even start to talk about the issues of that moment in the show at all. WHAT THE F*CK)
Baggage Claim got it right, the biggest problem is that there is no writing of characters. They have no backstory, they have no personalities, and they have no consistent motive. It's like they make their decisions by Magic Eight Ball.
If the backstory doesn't have MASSIVE revelations, it could still have humanized the characters. THat way, the way it interacts with the main narrative could have been to make Mae's actions more despicable. But yeah, the characters aren't people. After the murder of Jecki, Osha seems to want to get it on with the Stranger. Not even even a "Oh my god, they killed Jecki. you bastard".
@@victorcates9330 Yes, they had a chance, but I don't think they realized they needed it. This show is the very definition of bad writing as there are so many things they could do with the story to reveal character that they ignored. They could have stuck to their basic plot even and still brought out so much depth to the story with just simple things.
That's the fucked up thing, I don't think this is money laundering or anything. I genuinely am convinced they're THIS incompetent. Like they're just wasting money cause they can't budget worth a shit. How much did the fucking beaver cost? Did the beaver cost 10 million dollars? I think the beaver cost 10 million dollars.
I would like to know who is honestly a fan of this show. I have a low level of entertainment and this is literally rubbish. Even low budget South African comedies amuse me ( very localised comedy but the writing and plot . With the acting is like the OT Trilogy compared to this)
@@haku8135 I have the same conclusion, headland I think or whoever probably only hired crew, artists, and engineers she knows, probably all very inexpeirenced .
Neither of the witches acted like Mothers because there is NO ONE on the entire acting/writing/production staff of this dumpster fire are or have ever been Mothers! No surprise then that they haven't a clue how to provide actions or dialogue conducive to parenting. What an absolute waste.
Fully agree. I love the OT and did not care for the “digitally remastered“ updates especially the ending of ROTJ. I watched phantom menace and that was it for me. I don’t bother considering anything Disney did as Star Wars. But I understand how that might be difficult for guys who were little kids watching the prequels and had the eu, cartoon spin offs and video games.
@@GhostLink92 andor is very well written, but it's also boring as shit. and nevermind about it feeling like 'star wars,' we're in the era of deconstruction.
The way OSHA and Meh are screaming each other's names while the bridge is falling away below them instead of taking huge fucking leaps backwards makes me wonder how these people are paid in millions 😭😭
And we can surmise that they scream their names at each other because Sol demonstrated in the previous scene that he couldn't tell the twins apart. Now, the writers needed him to be able to, in order to know which to save, so having them scream their names at each other was their solution.
I know I always watch Drinker and Nerdrotic etc but I am at the point where I am sick of hearing and seeing stuff on Acolyte and Fruity Gaywa Doctor Who. It all sounds so unbelievably terrible, you wonder how anyone could write something that bad. That stupid and then get it made and made so badly. Its gone beyond incompetence into parody and on into the weeds now. Forty years ago this would never have got past the scripting stage etc once a higher up read it and saw how terrible it was. Thirty years ago if this had somehow managed to go out it would have been torn to shreds by all reviewers and audience and probably been pulled after a few episodes. And all involved would have been sacked and never work in the industry again, along with an apology to those who watched it. In 2024 its the audiences fault and everyone is just wrong, and this is a perfect show, just all all the other perfect shows they make, that are that dire no one watches....
Agreed did critical damage to the fan base and the hype for new Star Wars. This show is just more of the same crap they keep pumping out and doesn’t deserve this much attention
For me the main difference is: Acolyte simply seems bad. A badly written show that doesn't even does what it (according to interviews) set out to do. It propably would be even worse if it did what it wanted to do, because it would make even less sense (which is hard to believe considering how little sense this show makes, but you would have even more lore issues in that case) TLJ did what it set out to do, meaning it was meant to destroy the franchise as it did. Whoever thought this is a good idea should lose their job, because it is the most stupid move to target the destruction of your product and fanbase.
If Disney had presented Acolyte as a Naked Gun Star Wars parody, they’d make millions. “Master we’ve been here for seven weeks. Can you finally tell me why we’re here?” “Yes. You could have asked two months ago dumbass. We’re looking for signs of life.” “Oh. Shouldn’t we just fly the spaceship around the planet and look for big buildings?” “No just send the wookie out with a metal detector.” “Sol, don’t steal the kids. I’m telling you not to as your powerful girl boss.” “But I want to, Indara.” “Oh ok then. Girl boss forever.” “I’m torbin. I miss Coruscant. The writers have heard of that.” “I was going to let Osha go! Why did you stab me? Don’t you know that in my culture it is a custom to turn into a scary smoke monster when telling good news?”
Torbin's reaction to the specimen gathering mission reminded me of the scene in Obi-Wan Kenobi when Obi-Wan and Leia found themselves sharing a bus with stormtroopers who were "looking for Jedi", but were never given the names or descriptions of the people they were looking for. Even when Obi-Wan uses Leia's real name right in front of them, they don't connect it with the fugitives they were sent to find.
@@EvilDoresh I mean…how would they get info on what C-3PO and R2 look like? Stormtroopers on the Tantive IV didn’t know they used the escape pod. Personnel who saw it jettison on the Star Destroyer didn’t pick up any life so they assumed a malfunction much less actually seeing what was in it. The empire only knew it was droids after the officer reported the escape pod to Vader and they went down to investigate the pod. They still didn’t know anything aside from possible tracks, and that doesn’t do much to narrow down what specific droids they’re looking for because so many are bipedal and tripod. All they could really do is cast a wide net and hope they get lucky. Which is what they did. Fortunately for Obi-Wan, Stormtroopers aren’t exactly strong willed.
@@Gillymonster18 Crap I forgot that _one_ line of dialogue XD Though I guess they could've gotten a rough idea about the _potential_ droid models using the ship's logs or something
Disney has LOST THE PLOT! The hero’s journey of a battle between good and evil that resonated with millions of fans has ZERO resemblance to the poorly written drivel Disney is cranking out.
Because when you think you're gods gift to the world what kind of journey of self discovery could you possibly have? That's what these Hollywood types think of themselves.
Yes, how dare they produce something more nuanced and morally ambiguous than our favourite and simplistic “good vs evil” stories that everyone trots out over and over.
@@duncanmcneill7088because apparently we don’t get enough moral ambiguity in real life so Disney has to do a really bad job of JAMMING IT IN to a franchise known for its hope, positivity and escapism. This show isn’t nuanced, it’s just tangled up nonsense.
First they turned the Jedi into post-Floyd caricatures of COPS. Because that's how phoquin' little Lesbian Headlamp's imagination extends. Magic space samurai/knights errant = ACAB. Apparently.
While having a literal dark side of the Force coven of witches run by a Sith master who initiate any of instances that the Jedi would respond to with violence. Sorry these Jedi might be dumb but they aren't the bad guys in this story.
Given what information Anakin had at the time, this was a justified statement - compare that to what happening in Disney Wars and such statements become all but impossible to justify.
@@Mereologist Pretty much every single one of them said darkside. I don't think it comes from any deeper understanding other than its counter establishment for the sake of it.
Torbin suicide was far more disturbing because he might just have been depressed. Cause the motivation the writers gave him wasn’t enough for him to dwell on. “I want to go home.” And Sol didn’t stop him at all!
Obi Wan in middle of space when Alderaan was destroyed: I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of people suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Acolyte Jedis: We can't detect intelligent, force-using life forms. Even when we're on the bloody planet for two months.
As soon as people start trying to discredit someone else’s dislike by using those ists and isms, I immediately tune them out because they’re attacking the dislike rather than standing by and defending their creative choices.
"I thought his mining facility was abandoned." "Was...a pack of gypsy hobos opted to squat." "Did they know the rocks here were highly combustible?" "They do now...c'mon, let's get to shoveling."
I think I genuinely would’ve watched a show about a Wookie wandering around with a metal detector finding cool stuff before I would want to watch this lmao.
Agreed TLJ had the advantage of being in the theatre so of course the normies were more blown away with the big screen helping. But this show had just as much money as that movie but on the small screen you see the poor writing and decision making up close and personal
So a single Jedi is more powerful than the power of many witches? Why is it so cool to have the power of many if trinity can all cause them to have fatal brain aneurysms? Surely they should be more powerful than her by this shows logic?
Ackshually, it's just the mechanics of this particular mind violation, flesh puppet, spell that causes the whole clan to be vulnerable all at once to the force power of one Jedi.
No no youre not getting it. The power of one is trumped but the power of two, and the power of two is trumped by the power of many and the power of many is trumped by the power of one... Which is like a thread... Like Rock Paper Scissors, and scissors cut threads... Look... It makes sense shut up!
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Internet went out in my best friend's neighborhood after a bad storm a month or so ago. His stepson flipped out after only 30 minutes. He left the house to drive around and "look for the Internet". LOL It was like a South Park episode. LOL
The scanning scene is worse when you consider that in TESB, Luke scans Dagobah and detects no cities or technology, but "massive" life form readings... using a fighter's sensors, which you have to assume are the most basic since it's designed for combat and not exploration.
I could excuse that as technology developing if not for the fact that it somehow takes WAY LESS TIME to traverse the galaxy in the Acolyte than in a New Hope. It takes the Millennium Falcon hours to go from tatooine to the Death Star and that takes place several hundred years later in the FASTEST SHIP EVER
TBF he might've gotten help from R2 in interpreting the results. Speaking of: Why don't the Jedi have a droid? The only one in the entire series seems to be Osha's, and that one barely counts as he's usually just a head that looks like a fancy MP3 player.
You know what’s just as dumb? The fact that the blood samples Torbin took from Mae and Osha apparently took hours to scan before showing the results, when in The Phantom Menace, we see Qui-Gon send Anakin’s blood sample readings remotely from his little handheld device to Obi-Wan on the Naboo ship miles away in the remote desert, and within literal SECONDS the results register. Torbin could’ve plugged them into their ship and gotten the results before Mae even left the ship.
For a military plan that supposedly has this level of implication for the galaxy, they’d have more than just a briefing. There would be nothing but planning and specific training from the moment they learned about the thing until right before they went wheels up. To be fair, tons of shows do shit like that. “Wait for my signal.” “What’s your signal?” “You’ll know it when you see it.” 😂😂😂 “Bro, you clearly know what your signal is gonna be. Wanna just share it with the rest of us?”
I'm just baffled that NONE of the Jedi seem at all concerned about Torbin having been mind-r**ed. Even his master, who is SUPPOSED to be the one looking out for him, can't be bothered to spare five seconds to give him a word about it or even ask if he's alright. And then apparently he goes into total seclusion for over a decade and feels so guilty about being victimized that he ends himself just because Maye asks him to? I mean, there's "blame the victim" and then there's THIS...
Keep in mind that this show is “written” by the kind of people that think you have freedom of speech as long as you say what they like to hear. From that point of view, it makes perfect sense. They think rights are things that only apply as long as you have permission from the “right” people.
@@looinrimsas a woman, I’d show up for a greatest of balloons and I haven’t swung that way in decades but I miss female sexuality as much as I like to see stud muffins
@@emanymton713 The joke is Disney Star Wars and how they ruined the IP. My point was that this level of cringe is so common place for Disney Star Wars that Mauler can say the phrase "lesbian space witcxhes" and nobody reacts. Not a giggle or even a smirk. Lesbian Space Witches is ordinary for what Star Wars has become.
@@Mr.Batsu12 Yep, and “Lesbian Space Witches” should be an easy layup. Only Disney could fumble it so entirely… Instead, we’re supposed to be impressed by topless Yord and Darth Love Sausage.
Torbin was a Padawan so he wouldn't have a family or attachments. The writers forgot that, he wouldn't have been like that as there wasn't anything to go home too!
Jedi Tommen was so traumatised by going on a picking grass mission instead of kicking about at home that when someone brought it up, he poisoned himself to death.
I actually thought Torbin's motivations were so stupid that the plot would call them out. Like the witches get into his mind and ask, "Ok, what are your REAL reasons for wanting to leave so badly...? Oh you have a girlfriend. Naughty, naughty Jedi."
So the “Power of One” massacred the “Power of Many” and was later murdered by the “Power of the Tiny Kitchen Knife”, some brilliant power level logic there!!!
Don't forget that Torbin is a Jedi. He has no family or connections to return to besides going back to the temple, where they'll just give him another mission send him right back out again.
Typically the Jedi work alongside the Republic Judicial Service, a security and peace-keeping force that naturally works alongside the Jedi. That would explain the lack of resources if the Jedi are running a mission solo, but none of the producers or writers care about Star Wars so they wouldn't know about that anyway.
@@RJALEXANDER777 then you hear: oh that's just Legends stuff and can be overridden because it isn't George Lucas' vision. Um, this show isn't George Lucas' vision either. Nothing has been in 2014 (and since Dave Filoni's Clone Wars anyway).
And we've got one episode left, and we still, STILL, do not know what the hell the MAIN VILLAIN has to do with literally ANY of this. Smileo Ren still has NO connection to any of the events on Brendok that we know about. We've had two flashback episodes to tie him to it, and still nothing. He's guiding Mae on her revenge tour - to take revenge for things that she did, herself, mind - and he's still a very powerful character formed out of literally nowhere. He used to be a Jedi, but he still has no ties to this story whatsoever, and he's the closest thing we have to a main villain... other than Mae.
It would have been trivial for the writers to adequately explain some of the smaller issues in this episode. The planet was devastated by a hyperspace incident. "Ahh the hyperspace fleems in the upper atmosphere disrupt scans and transmissions from the surface" Sol just stumbles on the girls? Have him begin walking in a different direction before he senses something, looks over his shoulder and heads that way. Probably cut away for a bit to imply he's been walking more than 2 minutes from their camp. I don't know how much it would matter, since the characters and plot are complete disasters but like...please TRY to write something
*_"Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper, is tear-assing around Manhattan Island in a brand-new Edgar suit."_* - MEN IN BLACK [1997] But in this case the *_giant cockroach_* is *DISNEY LUCASFILM* and the *_Edgar suit_* is *STAR WARS.*
I’ve never had this happen before, where I’m actually excited weekly for acolytes new episode, not for the show but for how badly the critics are going to ravage this dumpster fire 🤣
"We've been here for over a MONTH! Will someone PLEASE tell me what we're doing here?" "Oh shut up, Padawan, and go fill this container with grass." "AGAIN?! Man, this sucks! Wish is was back on Coruscant...WORST FIELD TRIP EVER!"
As a military person, I can tell you that it is not uncommon to haze the new guy. Telling them to do something stupid that has the veneer of legitimacy, like going to admin for an ID10-T form or mail buoy watch is a time honored tradition. Can this guy endure the hard life of a Jedi? Clearly not. You could have done the Larusso-Miyagi moment from the first karate kid where you find out the mundane tasks where building muscle memory. But no. The writers have no skill
I don't want people to forget that the Last Jedi ruined every single prior fight in space with the hyperspace kamikaze. Every time you watch a starfight you have to ask yourself the question "why don't they hyperspace kamikaze"
Lmao how Disney? the audacity to say it was one ina million is basically them calling purple hair lady a fucking idiot, it means there was a 999,999 to 1 chance her move would not have worked.....? Even Disneys 'fixes' destroy their own characters
Mae being shown spitefully starting the fire in episode 3, only for it to be revealed in the latest episode that she accidentally did it is such a pathetic cop out. There was no reason for the audience to dispute or question the point of view we’d been shown in episode 3. It’s ‘Glass Onion’ like in that the revelation is that the director didn’t show us what happened. It wasn’t that we missed things hiding in plain site, the film simply didn’t show us how they actually happened.
In a more intelligently written show that can work, unreliable narrators are interesting tools. The problem is, you have to use it well. For example, if over the course of the show individual small details in the character's account are disproven which casts doubt on the larger points.
@@AGrumpyPanda True, but the beat wasn't set up as coming from Mae's perspective as such. It wasn't her - or someone else's account of the night. The audience had no reason to question the reliability of what we were being shown.
Leslye Headland's explanation of the black smoke transformation scene where Mae's Father-Mother gets stabbed by Sol is absolutely terrible. Leslye basically tried to explain it as if the Lesbian Space Witch was attempting a combined act of filicide and suicide with herself and 8 year old Mae!
You know I know it was an offhanded comment at 2:55, but THAT EXACT SITUATION was actually in the Wheel of Time books when Aviendha was trying to become a Wise One, they gave her all manner of degrading menial tasks to do, and she did them for weeks, until finally she had enough and demanded to know what these 'tests' were accomplishing, and that WAS the test.
How the heck did Torbin become a master Jedi? He went from being a teenage padawan, a Jedi knight and Jedi master in six years. And when he became a master what did he do, he went into a trance for 10 years.
After over a decade of meditation Torbin still had internal conflict strong enough to want to end his own life, so how couldn't the Jedi council pick up on it? I'm starting to believe Anakin when he says the selection process to make jedi masters is unfair.
There is a perfect explanation for Torbin's confusion. He thought that Sol said the expedition was looking for virgins. After seven weeks of picking moss and metal detecting, he finally realized that Sol meant "vergence". By then, he was so primed, he desperately wanted to go back to Coruscant and find a lady.
I'm so checked out of Star Wars at this point, that my only interaction with anything new from LucasFilm is through the Drinker and friends. Everyday I'm more thankful for that decision 😂
i love how lesly thinks shes portraying the mother's as being protective when in reality they are the ones putting the children in danger by making terrible decisions and terrible advice
For the whole plot it would have made more sense if the jedi had discovered the space witch base first, went there first to investigate if they know how that planet has life again and then using that area as a base of operation, while they investigate the planet. The witches then try to hide their use of the "thread" and the kids from the Jedi, their suspicious behaviour would have been a reason for the Jedi to investigate the witches. The kids being locked up so that jedi don't find them and them not really understanding why they are locked up, could have created the basis for a misunderstanding. Causing the Jedi to think the kids are in danger. Causing a conflict between the Jedi and the witches. That would have been a better set up for this situation. It would have made more sense for the Jedi feeling guilty, if they caused them to die only to discover afterwards that it was just a misunderstanding. It would make sense for May to be angry towards the Jedi. It would make more sense for her assertions that Jedi do attack others first. It might be a bit harder to not give Osha a reason to be angry, maybe go with her getting injured and having amnesia or something. You could even create a situation where the Jedi never discover that there are twins, only ever seeing one of them, explaining why they didn't look for May when everything goes to shit.
TLJ makes sense as a deconstruction and degradation of a franchise. It was a competent movie that was meant to destroy SW. The Acolyte tried to do the same, but fails in every regard.
Headland has referenced RASHOMON in interviews, and I could see from prior episodes where she could mimic that. But when I heard that I thought, “oh PLEASE, God, NO” … “Leslye you’re not going to make something liek Rashomon, and you’re sure as 💩 not Kurosawa.” Geez the gargantuan HUBRIS of this lady. She should’ve asked KK to let someone with real talent and more experience develop her idea, eliminate weak points, build up complexity and depth. Y’know, like maybe Tony Gilroy? BTW, the whole “planetary survey” thing (like in Star Trek, so many times) could’ve been written convincingly. Or plagiarized! In Star Trek TOS’ “Shore Leave” Sulu tells McCoy (who ought to know) “With a soil sample, a flower, a blade of grass,… we can determine the entire planet’s biology and chemical basis.” One. Frigging. Line. (Takei had a tricorder a little “junior chemistry set” prop to show he was collecting stuff iirc.)
I would be more interested in the process the Jedi use to calculate where a vergence would be at than the answers to a weak and crippled mystery that this episode provided. There's so much you could dive into for an era where Jedi are flourishing, but it's just wasted. Why not spend a chunk of an episode making it feel like the Jedi were there to do a job and do it well, instead of recycle parts of episode 3? Make the act of discovering the witches a part of their collective job and not just Sol being snoopy? That would get the jedi invested in a good way, showing they can accomplish tasks and making it relevant to the plot. I mean, you could also throw in a line about how the orbital scanning is muddy because of the unique celestial mechanics (perhaps tying into their force ritual and allowing details to serve multiple purposes???) of the star system or something, so that way the failure to locate the witches sooner has more plausibility. ugh I cannot get over how frustrating this all is.
Notice how all of this discussion fails to mention anything about the Sith, for very good reason. In the show specifically billed to be a show about the training, methodology, and philosophy of the Sith. A show billed as a look into the Sith as a whole and it's just another bullshit, generic Star Wars plot.
Someone described witches dying scene as 'Trinity disconnects the witches from The Matrix killing them instantly' and it's a hillariously perfect fit.
So much for "The power of many!"
neO unplugged all the witches from the star wars matrix simulator at once from the outside.
a lot like when you watch this show, the body cannot live without the mind.
@@TomMJH the power of the one outweighs the power of many
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Shouldn't Mae have died instantly too she was plugged into the Matrix after that initiation ceremony
*Rian Johnson:* “Nobody can piss off Star Wars fans more than me”
*Leslie Headland:* “Hold my tampon”
😂😂
Her tampon had too much lead in it
😂😂
Lesbian Headlamp: "Hold my Strap on, it's still wet."
Because of Rian Johnson, the closest I've come to Disney Star Wars has been the hate reviews.
Now they're blaming channels like Critical Drinker for poor ticket sales, which might be true, but only after they got it right on crappy movies I watched and hated, while all the MSM and "critics" loved them. Once the Fandom Menace got it right, time after time, I trust them. I might miss something good, but I really doubt it.
Now, I find the Fandom Menace to be more entertaining than anything Disney.
The worst thing about TLJ was that it killed our hopes and our greatest SW heroes. With the Acolyte, nobody even cares anymore. So how could it be worse?
that's the indicator how how much worse it is, that it shouldn't be able to be worse and yet it still is. at the very very least TLJ had better pacing and visuals and set and prob design.
The writers were trying to create a story that made the Jedi look evil. When virtually everything they did was justified. Than their actions post event, make no sense. They are beyond the worst writers i've seen from a studio. Or there was editing/reshoots going on. That cut things out. Because they knew they crossed a line so far. There be no one left who would like SW at all. Nothing was setup for any characters justification. And episode 3 directly lies to the audience. With tons of continuity errors. When we see episode 7. Example: In episode 3. Osha is going through a tunnel. Where she looks up through a grate. She hears the Witches scream, bright light flash, and an explosion. ALL the Witches are dead. Before the reactor blows up. They blatantly lied. The Witches when they where controlling the Wookie. Were in a room, on stairs. In episode 3, their bodies are in a room with no stairs.
Also, the explosion would have crushed their bodies. And burned the remains. So, what? Someone moved the bodies to this location. Not possible. And Sol walked passed them. Second, Mae this whole time acted like she didn't know what happened. SHE WAS PRESENT. When everything happened. She's not 4 years old. Were she has no memories. But they played her characters as: I don't know. It's like she's Goofy in an episode of Goof Troop. Either someone has the power to alter the memories of 7 characters. Across the Galaxy. Or the writers are GARBAGE.
@Mr.E_Bodhako At least TLJ could be called "good." It was serviceable in the areas of visuals and sound... just not when it comes to it's handling of the IP (which is debatable. I don't think we were completely lost at that point and could have recovered in the next movie... though that didn't happen).
From what I've heard of the Acolyte, it sounds like a nonsensical waste of 180 million.
So like that awful robin hood reimagining where the heroes are objectively the villians and the police, the good guys. @mbob4337
TLJ did not have good pacing, stop.
They are both bad in different ways, TLJ was bad but it was so messed up already by switching directors, not writing an outline, etc..
While the acolyte is about the most distilled bad writing I have ever seen..
wanted to make a story that showed the Jedi as bad guys and failed miserably.. you have to be in a cult yourself to justify almost anything the witches did, and lack basic reasoning if you think anything the Jedi did was not logical in the situation..
Crazy how few lines you need to add to line up people's actions to the story the director wanted to tell, but just never wrote those lines..
Also every male Jedi is over emotional and a borderline imbecile while only female jedis have the competency actually solve problems and end conflicts..
I'm not mad at this but it makes bland basic ass predictable characters.
"The Jedi are the real villains"
^depicts the Witches as the aggressors and the Jedi as the victims who acted in self defense^
expecilly the black smoke part its like ... well pulling out a toy gun infront of a cop.
If the leaks are true the Horny Mother is a Sith Master so what's the defense now?
Shows perfectly how irrational & emotional Femin°zis are.
I dunno, the Jedi straight up broke into their home. I feel fucking with them is kind of self defense. It’s all still dumb but I think they’re so bad at writing that the “bad guys” aren’t characterized as bad. Just dumb. Everything and everyone is dumb to the max, especially the writers…
@@EmptyAltruism The home of some shady group who tries to hide.
Cause you know at average this is not done by paranoid people on an eternal escape run, but by criminal organizations involved in all kinds of harmful activities.
They also mindpossess people and turn into demon looking entities too.
No wonder people feared them. These "witches" have zero selfawareness. _" How about NOT wielding such powers? "_ But oh no we can't have that. _" My personal powerfantasy. "_ this is what they said 100%.
Remember the scene when clone troopers were despairing during a hopeless moment, saying "We're just clones, sir. We're meant to be expendable." And Jedi Master Plo Koon said, "Not to me."
Yeah, you're never convincing me the Jedi are the bad guys.
Thankfully, that scene was part of pre-Disney Clone Wars
I already loved Plo Koon ever since he appeared in a game called Jedi power battles wielding a yellow lightsaber
Scenes like this from clone wars only further made him a firm favourite
@@pistolbobcat5374 Plus it's a wise outlook in general.
Even if clones are expendable in the grand scheme of things, generals still have to work with the clones that are _right there_
Plus they are still not as expendable as droids.
I don't see HOW the Jedi could be the bad guys. If they commit evil acts, they would become sith. Unless I misunderstand, it takes control and vigilance to prevent from going to the dark side (at least that's my understanding from movies 3-6). They have to actively keep themselves from succumbing to the dark side.
@@madlaboratorian8696 There's no such thing as objective morality in _modern_ Star Wars
It's interesting that according to Headland, the parent who caused the pregnancy has a greater claim to the child(ren) than the parent who carried the pregnancy.
It's also interesting that nobody really cares about any of that hocus pocus anymore. Like, honestly, if the agenda is to forward the LGBT cause, Headland did the LGBT community dirty by portraying nothing more than a highly dysfunctional group of lesbians who behave collectively EXACTLY like how we would stereotype a bunch of lesbians.....
Baaased Headland? What did she mean by this?
So in a normal hetero relationship, it's always the man or sperm donor?
‘Greater claim’? Both have equal RESPONSIBILITIES to the children
It doesn’t surprise me that she would say something stupid like that
It’s almost like Headland does not or will never understand motherhood or parenthood in general
Disney killed Star Wars with TLJ. The Kenobi series was Disney digging up the corpse and pissing all over it. Quoting Luke "There's nothing for me here now."
Yep, Obi Wan-A Reeva Story, was the last straw for me. They’re systematically destroying each and every OT character.
Obi Wan show was decent. Not great. Not terrible. Some niggles. Reeva a bit of a distraction, but I couldn't care less about Inquisitors and the fan weeping with regards her is somewhat comical.
@@Podemeister Reeva was mid at best and wasn't the biggest problem. HOWEVER, sneaking little Leia out of a highly fortified outpost under a trench coat over Jedi robes with guards all around was an unbelievably bad low point. Among so many other bad plot holes you could float a DeathStar through. I could only ignore the logic portion of my brain for so long.
Nah, Disney killed it when they first acquired it. Anyone remember the presser with the dancing Vader and stormtroopers? It just took people a while to noitice that the corpse was getting a bit ripe.
@@Podemeister The actress playing Reeva is truly dreadful. She cant act at all. I dont know if its her, the script or the character that makes it that way or all three. But her early scenes in the first few episodes are cringe worthy bad. When she gets angry and stroppy like a teenager and so on. She is dire. And she stands out really badly against all the others, till baby Leia shows up, In the last couple of episodes Reeva has improved slightly she is less over the top and it seems slightly less like she is reading lines off an autocue...all I know is I never want to see that actress again in anything else. Ever. If she is in something I would want to watch I will avoid it, she was truly a bad actress....
That wasn't a metal detector, it was a compelling story detector. The search continues.
A plot detector
Its been strangly slient these pass 7 episodes
they just wanted to include things star wars toys.
Going for the JAKKU Scavenger Metal Detector might have been a bad choice.
A sensemeter
I assumed he was trying to figure out where the budget went
'We ain't found shit!'
Imagine a Star Wars sequel trilogy where we get an older, wiser, more powerful Luke Jedi Master who restarted the Jedi Academy and has a Jedi Master who was once his padawan and a whole new class of Jedi and padawans. Then they could have introduced Luke's child or Han's and Leia or both for that matter as the protagonists.
Luke could have gone out protecting the Academy and saving the lives of the entire Academy and gone out as a hero.
Instead they destroyed a beloved character, one who had enough hope to try and successfully turn his father away from the dark side, and turned him into a hermit that turned his back on everyone and abandoned his friends... and tried to kill a padawan because of a dream. So f'ing stupid and sad
It would even work with what Disney's crapped out. You could make Rey and Kylo cousins; say, Rey is Leia's daughter with Han, and Kylo is Luke's son with Mara. They were in the temple, training, as toddlers. Jedi preschool. Luke was out on a mission, checking out rumors of a new evil rising in the galaxy, remnants of Imperial fleets coming together, generals turned warlords after the fall bowing down to a new leader.
The temple gets attacked by the FO, taking out the Jedi, their biggest threat. Kylo is kidnapped to be trained in the dark side. Rey escaped on the last transport out with a nanny. Luke thinks they're both dead, that's why he becomes a recluse, he failed to protect them, and to protect the Jedi. That's why Han is out in space running around, he thinks his child is still alive, that's why Leia isn't with him, she thinks he's nuts.
That's why Rey could use the force on such a high level without being trained, she's been trained, as a child. That's why she can fly the Millennium Falcon, she grew up on that ship. Rey and Kylo's personal connection is strong, because they're family, and they trained in the academy as toddlers. Rey's "family" isn't really family, they're adoptive. The nanny gave them money, told them to keep her hidden, and left to inform her real parents. Didn't make it. That's why she's stuck on some backwater planet.
..or something like that. I could fix it.
You fans have more realistic story line imagination for a successful SW continuation then all of Disney...think about that, what a s**t-show Disney imagination has become.
Congratulations, you described a good bit of the book material from the 90s. "Legends"
@@billpassmore3541 lol, well I'm not surprised. It's not that difficult to imagine , it's what most people wanted to see in a sequel and Disney shit the bed.
I wish they'd have just made movies out of some of the Legends stories. They could have done so much. Luke's Jedi Academy, the Vong Invasion, Darth Caedus.... you could do like 15 movies out of those three things and I didn't even list Thrawn (the live action Thrawn sucks ass by the way, he looks like fuckin' Data from Star Trek)
Remember when being a Master Jedi meant something? They were strong, smart, wise, and tried to do the right thing. Here, they all act like they participate awards
They can only write what they know.
I rewatch the clone wars cartoon and when I see a master Jedi they always do something badass not here
JeDEI
JewDis
I remember. But here's the trick. Just know Disney Star Wars aint even star wars. And Nothing about the Jedi have changed. Its still Obi Wan teaching look the force. It's still Master Yoda on Dagoba. It's still Anikin Pod Racing and flying Naboo StarFighters. It's still Wedge helping luke in a New Hope destroy the Death Star. It's still Luke showing compassion and bravery against the most evil entity on any planet to save his Father.... Nothing, i say NOTHING. Rian Johnson or the Disney Devils come up with will change The Jedi Masters and the Power of the Force.
May the force be with you..... Always. Through it all.
Bonus insanity: Headland clarified in an interview that Aniseya’s smoke monster routine was her trying to murder-suicide herself and Mae.
She phrased it as attempting to ‘transform them [both] into the Force,’ but the last thing we saw described that was for sliced in half by a lightsaber.
So yeah, Sol was even _more_ in the right than he appeared to be.
So then...Sol saved Mae basically? Aaaand the Jedi did literally nothing wrong then. 🤦♀
"The Jedi are the bad guys!"
Then why did you write Sol as a character that bravely tried to save a child from being unalived by their own parent?
What STRANGE character motivations... And I thought the WEIRDEST idea was to have Mae decide to KILL her sister so that Ohsa wouldn't go with the Jedi and leave Mae alone... How does that Fly in a WRITER'S ROOM? OK, Mae doesn't want her sister Ohsa to leave, so Mae's decision is to KILL OHSA with FIRE! Does that sound good GIRLS?
And now we have the Witch Mother KILLING HERSELF & HER CHILD, because I GUESS she thinks that otherwise the Jedi will take both kids? Where does this 'If I Can't Have it NO ONE CAN' attitude come from?
Boomers.
The "If I can't have it no one can!" mentality comes from boomers.
@@thelaughingrougeno it doesn’t. That is jealousy thing and has roots all the way back to the dawn of man.
Boomers seem good at it, but not where it came from
You will never convince me that Torbin became a master 6 years after this... or was even a Jedi to begin with.
Evidently, he had w**** m*** privilege.
Is that the one who looks like a refugee from a Bee Gee's tribute act?
@@Simon-xc5oy Damn, that's so accurate lol
And if he did it meant he overcame his guilt & found peace in meditation. So he would never kill himself. Another stupid idea.
Torbin is one of the most stupid things they put in the show. I agree that there wasn't enough time for him to become a master and meditate for years.
It also makes no sense that he felt guilty because he was a victim (according to the show itself), and if his mind was so broken that he thought he deserved to die, he surely could not become a master due to these mental issues (which would be an interesting talking point honestly, but they don't even start to talk about the issues of that moment in the show at all. WHAT THE F*CK)
Baggage Claim got it right, the biggest problem is that there is no writing of characters. They have no backstory, they have no personalities, and they have no consistent motive. It's like they make their decisions by Magic Eight Ball.
If the backstory doesn't have MASSIVE revelations, it could still have humanized the characters. THat way, the way it interacts with the main narrative could have been to make Mae's actions more despicable. But yeah, the characters aren't people. After the murder of Jecki, Osha seems to want to get it on with the Stranger. Not even even a "Oh my god, they killed Jecki. you bastard".
@@victorcates9330 Yes, they had a chance, but I don't think they realized they needed it. This show is the very definition of bad writing as there are so many things they could do with the story to reveal character that they ignored. They could have stuck to their basic plot even and still brought out so much depth to the story with just simple things.
The power of bad writing
-the power of bad acting
-the power of money laundering
The true Disney-SW mantra.
The chinese who fund this must be pleased with their results.
That's the fucked up thing, I don't think this is money laundering or anything.
I genuinely am convinced they're THIS incompetent. Like they're just wasting money cause they can't budget worth a shit.
How much did the fucking beaver cost? Did the beaver cost 10 million dollars? I think the beaver cost 10 million dollars.
I would like to know who is honestly a fan of this show. I have a low level of entertainment and this is literally rubbish. Even low budget South African comedies amuse me ( very localised comedy but the writing and plot . With the acting is like the OT Trilogy compared to this)
@@haku8135 I have the same conclusion, headland I think or whoever probably only hired crew, artists, and engineers she knows, probably all very inexpeirenced .
Neither of the witches acted like Mothers because there is NO ONE on the entire acting/writing/production staff of this dumpster fire are or have ever been Mothers!
No surprise then that they haven't a clue how to provide actions or dialogue conducive to parenting.
What an absolute waste.
Yeah this is not Star Wars. Reject what Disney tries to push as "Star Wars".
Culture Wars
= Return of the Nonbinary =
🤣
Except Andor, that's good.
Remove it from canon, they must.
Fully agree. I love the OT and did not care for the “digitally remastered“ updates especially the ending of ROTJ. I watched phantom menace and that was it for me.
I don’t bother considering anything Disney did as Star Wars. But I understand how that might be difficult for guys who were little kids watching the prequels and had the eu, cartoon spin offs and video games.
@@GhostLink92 andor is very well written, but it's also boring as shit. and nevermind about it feeling like 'star wars,' we're in the era of deconstruction.
"The Acolyte" is just one of the mutated possums that are now roaming the surface after "The Last Jedi" nuked the whole planet.
The way OSHA and Meh are screaming each other's names while the bridge is falling away below them instead of taking huge fucking leaps backwards makes me wonder how these people are paid in millions 😭😭
they clearly show the passages behind them being clear
Average middle schoolers can write better scenarios.
*_"Meh"_*
🤭🤭🤭
Didn't she try and kill her sister before that, though?
And we can surmise that they scream their names at each other because Sol demonstrated in the previous scene that he couldn't tell the twins apart. Now, the writers needed him to be able to, in order to know which to save, so having them scream their names at each other was their solution.
Star Wars cant get any worse right guys?
Leslie Hedland: Hold my list of abused girls for Harvey.
I never watched a show so much without ever watching it.
I know I always watch Drinker and Nerdrotic etc but I am at the point where I am sick of hearing and seeing stuff on Acolyte and Fruity Gaywa Doctor Who. It all sounds so unbelievably terrible, you wonder how anyone could write something that bad. That stupid and then get it made and made so badly. Its gone beyond incompetence into parody and on into the weeds now. Forty years ago this would never have got past the scripting stage etc once a higher up read it and saw how terrible it was. Thirty years ago if this had somehow managed to go out it would have been torn to shreds by all reviewers and audience and probably been pulled after a few episodes. And all involved would have been sacked and never work in the industry again, along with an apology to those who watched it. In 2024 its the audiences fault and everyone is just wrong, and this is a perfect show, just all all the other perfect shows they make, that are that dire no one watches....
Wookie with a metal detector may be my Halloween costume this year
The Wookiee wasn’t carrying a metal detector. He was carrying a plot device. It’s used to look for plot anywhere in a poorly crafted story.
@@scionofdorn9101 the it will still work because I e definitely lost the plot as well
Nothing can beat TLJ for pure franchise assassination. Anything just as bad that follows it is simply adding fuel to its fire.
Agreed did critical damage to the fan base and the hype for new Star Wars. This show is just more of the same crap they keep pumping out and doesn’t deserve this much attention
For me the main difference is:
Acolyte simply seems bad. A badly written show that doesn't even does what it (according to interviews) set out to do. It propably would be even worse if it did what it wanted to do, because it would make even less sense (which is hard to believe considering how little sense this show makes, but you would have even more lore issues in that case)
TLJ did what it set out to do, meaning it was meant to destroy the franchise as it did. Whoever thought this is a good idea should lose their job, because it is the most stupid move to target the destruction of your product and fanbase.
I’m just pissed we didn’t get to see the fat Jedi in a lightsaber fight.
If there is an action figure, I bet Fatawan comes with a couple of pies instead of a light saber.
@@pikeb.3993 And his hero is Lizo....
Or two Bazils in a trench coat
If Disney had presented Acolyte as a Naked Gun Star Wars parody, they’d make millions.
“Master we’ve been here for seven weeks. Can you finally tell me why we’re here?”
“Yes. You could have asked two months ago dumbass. We’re looking for signs of life.”
“Oh. Shouldn’t we just fly the spaceship around the planet and look for big buildings?”
“No just send the wookie out with a metal detector.”
“Sol, don’t steal the kids. I’m telling you not to as your powerful girl boss.”
“But I want to, Indara.”
“Oh ok then. Girl boss forever.”
“I’m torbin. I miss Coruscant. The writers have heard of that.”
“I was going to let Osha go! Why did you stab me? Don’t you know that in my culture it is a custom to turn into a scary smoke monster when telling good news?”
"Let's get back to the ship. Do you want to store all this moss in the cargo hold, or is it carry-on moss?"
Torbin's reaction to the specimen gathering mission reminded me of the scene in Obi-Wan Kenobi when Obi-Wan and Leia found themselves sharing a bus with stormtroopers who were "looking for Jedi", but were never given the names or descriptions of the people they were looking for. Even when Obi-Wan uses Leia's real name right in front of them, they don't connect it with the fugitives they were sent to find.
That scene was like 12 levels of retarded lmao
Imagine if the Stormtroopers from Episode 4 got tasked with finding two droids without getting any intel _how they look like_
@@EvilDoresh I mean…how would they get info on what C-3PO and R2 look like? Stormtroopers on the Tantive IV didn’t know they used the escape pod. Personnel who saw it jettison on the Star Destroyer didn’t pick up any life so they assumed a malfunction much less actually seeing what was in it.
The empire only knew it was droids after the officer reported the escape pod to Vader and they went down to investigate the pod. They still didn’t know anything aside from possible tracks, and that doesn’t do much to narrow down what specific droids they’re looking for because so many are bipedal and tripod.
All they could really do is cast a wide net and hope they get lucky. Which is what they did. Fortunately for Obi-Wan, Stormtroopers aren’t exactly strong willed.
@@Gillymonster18 Crap I forgot that _one_ line of dialogue XD
Though I guess they could've gotten a rough idea about the _potential_ droid models using the ship's logs or something
The fact that Harvy's assistant was allowed within 100 miles of any Disney production shows just how far Disney has fallen.
Disney has LOST THE PLOT! The hero’s journey of a battle between good and evil that resonated with millions of fans has ZERO resemblance to the poorly written drivel Disney is cranking out.
Because when you think you're gods gift to the world what kind of journey of self discovery could you possibly have? That's what these Hollywood types think of themselves.
Yes, how dare they produce something more nuanced and morally ambiguous than our favourite and simplistic “good vs evil” stories that everyone trots out over and over.
Nuanced and morally ambiguous?! 🤣😂🤣
Y'all MUST be watching a different show.
@@duncanmcneill7088because apparently we don’t get enough moral ambiguity in real life so Disney has to do a really bad job of JAMMING IT IN to a franchise known for its hope, positivity and escapism.
This show isn’t nuanced, it’s just tangled up nonsense.
@@thelaughingrouge - so tell me, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?
Seems to me that nobody is black or white and maybe that's the point.
The creative team tried to paint the jedi as the villains; and it's so cute. 😂🎉
First they turned the Jedi into post-Floyd caricatures of COPS.
Because that's how phoquin' little Lesbian Headlamp's imagination extends.
Magic space samurai/knights errant = ACAB.
Apparently.
While having a literal dark side of the Force coven of witches run by a Sith master who initiate any of instances that the Jedi would respond to with violence. Sorry these Jedi might be dumb but they aren't the bad guys in this story.
Calling them 'creative' is a joke right? Right?
They should make a count dooku series if they want to paint the jedis as villians cause dooku was a legit guy with legit disagreements with the jedi.
@@VoidSurfer9 Yeah they should be referred to as the "uncreative team".
*The power of one*
*The power of two*
*The power of cringe*
It's about family.
Yassssssss yaassssssss!
@@carson21211That franchise is actually better for what it uses in its feel good moments. This show appears to be debauchery masquerading as unity
NO DO IT RIGHT...... cringeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
The power of one , the power of two,the power of Kathleen Kennedy
That moment when the script calls for them to act out "menial busy work" only to realize none of them have worked a job before
It was probably Dean Charles-Chapman asking if he can leave and why was he there. It might not have been Torbin's dialog and they just kept filming.
I believe it.
LOL
"From my point of view: the Jedi are evil."
"Well then you are lost."
You can learn a lot about a person, by knowing who they consider enemies.
PA of Harvey Weinstein. Never forget.
Leslie Hedland overtly said she would be on the Dark Side. She knows exactly what she is.
Given what information Anakin had at the time, this was a justified statement - compare that to what happening in Disney Wars and such statements become all but impossible to justify.
@@Mereologist Pretty much every single one of them said darkside. I don't think it comes from any deeper understanding other than its counter establishment for the sake of it.
Torbin suicide was far more disturbing because he might just have been depressed. Cause the motivation the writers gave him wasn’t enough for him to dwell on. “I want to go home.” And Sol didn’t stop him at all!
find anything yet?!! - we ain't found shit!!!
Brooks would have a gold mine in 2020's films...but they would never let him make anything.
Actually in this case we HAVE found 💩...🤭
Obi Wan in middle of space when Alderaan was destroyed: I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of people suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Acolyte Jedis: We can't detect intelligent, force-using life forms. Even when we're on the bloody planet for two months.
Or over 80 force witches can't sense a single jedi sneaking around their home
You guys know, if you sent this video to the Disney staff involved with the Acolyte all they would hear is
“Raaaaaaaiiiiiissssiiiiiiisssssmmmmmmm”
No it’s sexism
@@looinrims No it's cringism.
@@looinrimsI thought it was transphobia
Cringephobia.
As soon as people start trying to discredit someone else’s dislike by using those ists and isms, I immediately tune them out because they’re attacking the dislike rather than standing by and defending their creative choices.
Torbin or whatever his name is doesn't even mean Coruscant as a planet, he just wants to be back in his room, where his PS5 is waiting.
"I thought his mining facility was abandoned."
"Was...a pack of gypsy hobos opted to squat."
"Did they know the rocks here were highly combustible?"
"They do now...c'mon, let's get to shoveling."
So if the padawan wanted to go home so badly to Corusant, why did he meditate by himself on a different planet after the 'incident'for 10+ years??
Coruscant turned out to be a silly place
White guilt
"I will punish myself because of something that I didn't do"
The jedi wookie was really into ancient coins & bottle cap collecting. They cut the part where he found a beautiful morgan silver dollar...
He was on a search for 50 sunset sasparilla bottle caps lol.
I think I genuinely would’ve watched a show about a Wookie wandering around with a metal detector finding cool stuff before I would want to watch this lmao.
TLJ was bad enough to make Star Wars fans check out, the Acolyte is bad enough to make regular normies check out. That objectively makes it worse.
Agreed TLJ had the advantage of being in the theatre so of course the normies were more blown away with the big screen helping. But this show had just as much money as that movie but on the small screen you see the poor writing and decision making up close and personal
So a single Jedi is more powerful than the power of many witches? Why is it so cool to have the power of many if trinity can all cause them to have fatal brain aneurysms? Surely they should be more powerful than her by this shows logic?
Ackshually, it's just the mechanics of this particular mind violation, flesh puppet, spell that causes the whole clan to be vulnerable all at once to the force power of one Jedi.
What logic? This show is run on tween girl IMPULSES.
Cause & effect has nothing to do with anything.
@@boggeddown778 The kind of power that if picked in a multiplayer game would get you kicked by your own team for trolling.
No no youre not getting it. The power of one is trumped but the power of two, and the power of two is trumped by the power of many and the power of many is trumped by the power of one... Which is like a thread... Like Rock Paper Scissors, and scissors cut threads... Look... It makes sense shut up!
@@scorpixel1866 while using this skill your entire team will be immobilized, if you are killed while using this skill, your entire team will die, if this skill is interrupted while in use, your entire team will die.
To be fair guys when’s the last time you saw a 25-year-old go seven weeks without a smart phone?
They would be climbing the walls after 7 hours.
Internet went out in my best friend's neighborhood after a bad storm a month or so ago. His stepson flipped out after only 30 minutes. He left the house to drive around and "look for the Internet". LOL
It was like a South Park episode. LOL
@@msh6865 “ look for the Internet” has to be a phrase moving forward we have to keep that alive
@@ASoberBear oh believe me, we are. Bwahaha!
@@msh6865 I shall inform the elder bears.
The only reason Torbin has to ask "Why are we here?" is the cheapest, lazist, most hack way to provide exposition to the audience.
They could've just _not_ have them already be on the planet for weeks and just shoot a scene of Sol doing a briefing of their mission
The scanning scene is worse when you consider that in TESB, Luke scans Dagobah and detects no cities or technology, but "massive" life form readings... using a fighter's sensors, which you have to assume are the most basic since it's designed for combat and not exploration.
I could excuse that as technology developing if not for the fact that it somehow takes WAY LESS TIME to traverse the galaxy in the Acolyte than in a New Hope. It takes the Millennium Falcon hours to go from tatooine to the Death Star and that takes place several hundred years later in the FASTEST SHIP EVER
TBF he might've gotten help from R2 in interpreting the results.
Speaking of: Why don't the Jedi have a droid? The only one in the entire series seems to be Osha's, and that one barely counts as he's usually just a head that looks like a fancy MP3 player.
It's a planet entirely covered in dense jungle, frankly I'd be amazed if you *weren't* picking up massive life form readings.
@@AGrumpyPanda I doubt anyone in what passes for this show's creative team has ever been anywhere near a real forest
You know what’s just as dumb? The fact that the blood samples Torbin took from Mae and Osha apparently took hours to scan before showing the results, when in The Phantom Menace, we see Qui-Gon send Anakin’s blood sample readings remotely from his little handheld device to Obi-Wan on the Naboo ship miles away in the remote desert, and within literal SECONDS the results register. Torbin could’ve plugged them into their ship and gotten the results before Mae even left the ship.
For a military plan that supposedly has this level of implication for the galaxy, they’d have more than just a briefing.
There would be nothing but planning and specific training from the moment they learned about the thing until right before they went wheels up.
To be fair, tons of shows do shit like that.
“Wait for my signal.”
“What’s your signal?”
“You’ll know it when you see it.”
😂😂😂
“Bro, you clearly know what your signal is gonna be. Wanna just share it with the rest of us?”
"Nah, I gotta keep the audience guessing!"
I'm just baffled that NONE of the Jedi seem at all concerned about Torbin having been mind-r**ed. Even his master, who is SUPPOSED to be the one looking out for him, can't be bothered to spare five seconds to give him a word about it or even ask if he's alright. And then apparently he goes into total seclusion for over a decade and feels so guilty about being victimized that he ends himself just because Maye asks him to? I mean, there's "blame the victim" and then there's THIS...
Never understood that contradictory sentence “ you can’t deny us the right to test your children but with your permission of course”
Keep in mind that this show is “written” by the kind of people that think you have freedom of speech as long as you say what they like to hear.
From that point of view, it makes perfect sense. They think rights are things that only apply as long as you have permission from the “right” people.
The only way to save The Acolyte and make it good is to have Sydney Sweeney in Leia bikini for 40 mins in Episode 8.
Start the petition plz
Media hasn’t forgotten that sex sells but they keep trying to sell sex to women who don’t show up
@@looinrimsas a woman, I’d show up for a greatest of balloons and I haven’t swung that way in decades but I miss female sexuality as much as I like to see stud muffins
That's not at all the problem in such setup. The only issue is that Sydney wouldn't fit in that bikini.
It could happen. They've got roughly $175,000,000 to spend on this one last episode.... But we know they'll continue to screw it up.
'Wookie with a metal detector'🤦♂ Fuck me what has happened!
Who would have knows the phrase "lesbian space witches" would be used in reference to "Star Wars" and it no longer even be considered a joke @ 13:20
It’s still a joke.
@@emanymton713 The joke is Disney Star Wars and how they ruined the IP. My point was that this level of cringe is so common place for Disney Star Wars that Mauler can say the phrase "lesbian space witcxhes" and nobody reacts. Not a giggle or even a smirk. Lesbian Space Witches is ordinary for what Star Wars has become.
@@Mr.Batsu12 Yep, and “Lesbian Space Witches” should be an easy layup. Only Disney could fumble it so entirely… Instead, we’re supposed to be impressed by topless Yord and Darth Love Sausage.
For this kind of show, I call them the "debits" rather than the "credits".
I like how Leslie says Star Wars saved her life then proceeds to change everything about it
If ever there was a reason for me to wish Star Wars WASN’T created…
i Just love scanning for lifeforms, little lifeforms, little lifeforms, you little lifeforms where.. are.. You, do do dodo di di di dee
Smoke me a kipper, Skipper I'll be back for breakfast.
Star Wars fans: "I HATE this, this is REVOLTING!!!"
Disney Wars: "More?"
Star Wars fans: "(No) please."
Torbin was a Padawan so he wouldn't have a family or attachments. The writers forgot that, he wouldn't have been like that as there wasn't anything to go home too!
Jedi Tommen was so traumatised by going on a picking grass mission instead of kicking about at home that when someone brought it up, he poisoned himself to death.
I actually thought Torbin's motivations were so stupid that the plot would call them out. Like the witches get into his mind and ask, "Ok, what are your REAL reasons for wanting to leave so badly...? Oh you have a girlfriend. Naughty, naughty Jedi."
So the “Power of One” massacred the “Power of Many” and was later murdered by the “Power of the Tiny Kitchen Knife”, some brilliant power level logic there!!!
Don't forget that Torbin is a Jedi. He has no family or connections to return to besides going back to the temple, where they'll just give him another mission send him right back out again.
That’s what they are saying. He is MEANT to have no connections but you don’t actually know if he does or not.
The Jedi are doing all of the scanning themselves because of defund the Jedi. They just don’t have the budget anymore to have scanner droids.
Typically the Jedi work alongside the Republic Judicial Service, a security and peace-keeping force that naturally works alongside the Jedi. That would explain the lack of resources if the Jedi are running a mission solo, but none of the producers or writers care about Star Wars so they wouldn't know about that anyway.
@@RJALEXANDER777 then you hear: oh that's just Legends stuff and can be overridden because it isn't George Lucas' vision. Um, this show isn't George Lucas' vision either. Nothing has been in 2014 (and since Dave Filoni's Clone Wars anyway).
And we've got one episode left, and we still, STILL, do not know what the hell the MAIN VILLAIN has to do with literally ANY of this. Smileo Ren still has NO connection to any of the events on Brendok that we know about. We've had two flashback episodes to tie him to it, and still nothing. He's guiding Mae on her revenge tour - to take revenge for things that she did, herself, mind - and he's still a very powerful character formed out of literally nowhere. He used to be a Jedi, but he still has no ties to this story whatsoever, and he's the closest thing we have to a main villain... other than Mae.
It would have been trivial for the writers to adequately explain some of the smaller issues in this episode.
The planet was devastated by a hyperspace incident. "Ahh the hyperspace fleems in the upper atmosphere disrupt scans and transmissions from the surface"
Sol just stumbles on the girls? Have him begin walking in a different direction before he senses something, looks over his shoulder and heads that way. Probably cut away for a bit to imply he's been walking more than 2 minutes from their camp.
I don't know how much it would matter, since the characters and plot are complete disasters but like...please TRY to write something
*_"Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper, is tear-assing around Manhattan Island in a brand-new Edgar suit."_*
- MEN IN BLACK [1997]
But in this case the *_giant cockroach_* is *DISNEY LUCASFILM* and the *_Edgar suit_* is *STAR WARS.*
I’ve never had this happen before, where I’m actually excited weekly for acolytes new episode, not for the show but for how badly the critics are going to ravage this dumpster fire 🤣
In episode 7 dialog disney writers demonstrates that they arent just bad at writing star wars but probably bad at being real-life humans
On the betting pool of how the witches died, how many people would had bet that they just up and died for no discernable reason?
The best part is my buddy comes in. He goes why are you watching an old episode? I thought the new one was on lol
Leslye Headland and Mindy Kaling should get together for a drink or two.
So they can discuss how great it is to fall upwards.
"We've been here for over a MONTH! Will someone PLEASE tell me what we're doing here?"
"Oh shut up, Padawan, and go fill this container with grass."
"AGAIN?! Man, this sucks! Wish is was back on Coruscant...WORST FIELD TRIP EVER!"
As a military person, I can tell you that it is not uncommon to haze the new guy. Telling them to do something stupid that has the veneer of legitimacy, like going to admin for an ID10-T form or mail buoy watch is a time honored tradition. Can this guy endure the hard life of a Jedi? Clearly not. You could have done the Larusso-Miyagi moment from the first karate kid where you find out the mundane tasks where building muscle memory. But no. The writers have no skill
I much prefer Yoda's way of hazing by acting(?) like a senile goblin
@@EvilDoresh That was only hazing for the second half, initially it was just covering his arse like a wanted man reasonably should.
I can't believe they waited 7 weeks to reveal the 'mystery', and it turned out to be pretty much exactly what everybody had already guessed.
I don't want people to forget that the Last Jedi ruined every single prior fight in space with the hyperspace kamikaze. Every time you watch a starfight you have to ask yourself the question "why don't they hyperspace kamikaze"
disney hyperspace kamikaze'd star wars
“Cmon that move is one in a million!”
@@looinrims somehow star wars returned
@@looinrims Says the janitor.
Lmao how Disney?
the audacity to say it was one ina million is basically them calling purple hair lady a fucking idiot, it means there was a 999,999 to 1 chance her move would not have worked.....?
Even Disneys 'fixes' destroy their own characters
Ah boy, here we go again.
Mae being shown spitefully starting the fire in episode 3, only for it to be revealed in the latest episode that she accidentally did it is such a pathetic cop out.
There was no reason for the audience to dispute or question the point of view we’d been shown in episode 3.
It’s ‘Glass Onion’ like in that the revelation is that the director didn’t show us what happened. It wasn’t that we missed things hiding in plain site, the film simply didn’t show us how they actually happened.
In a more intelligently written show that can work, unreliable narrators are interesting tools. The problem is, you have to use it well. For example, if over the course of the show individual small details in the character's account are disproven which casts doubt on the larger points.
@@AGrumpyPanda True, but the beat wasn't set up as coming from Mae's perspective as such. It wasn't her - or someone else's account of the night. The audience had no reason to question the reliability of what we were being shown.
How can anyone expect them to get the "mothers" right if none of them has any motherhood in them?
They've never had anything in them that would lead to motherhood, if you see my point 😂
@@daviddiggens8841 💯 agree!
It's Torbin time
TLJ killed Star Wars. Everything since then has just violated the corpse.
Leslye Headland's explanation of the black smoke transformation scene where Mae's Father-Mother gets stabbed by Sol is absolutely terrible. Leslye basically tried to explain it as if the Lesbian Space Witch was attempting a combined act of filicide and suicide with herself and 8 year old Mae!
You can just tell that all these “strong independent girl bosses “ running Lucas film have no experience being mothers
They appear to have no experience being human? 😂
How could they? It's not like lesbians could have children together. The very idea is absurd 🤔
Or anything productive and useful in any manner…
When it comes to The Message , all other priorities rescinded.
After this episode... I feel like we were too harsh on CW for everything.
The CW network had Supernatural. I loved that show. But it was still a bad network.
@@John_Locke_108 At least they had the ability to make bad shows for 1/10th the production cost of Disney's bad shows
@@kenwarren9450 ... and to have them run for at least 5 seasons.
It’s time to formally reject Disney and reinstate the original extended universe as canon.
You know I know it was an offhanded comment at 2:55, but THAT EXACT SITUATION was actually in the Wheel of Time books when Aviendha was trying to become a Wise One, they gave her all manner of degrading menial tasks to do, and she did them for weeks, until finally she had enough and demanded to know what these 'tests' were accomplishing, and that WAS the test.
This is like staring at the aftermath of a car crash.
50% of scenes are old ones from different camera angles you can see where the 180 million dollars went hey.
How the heck did Torbin become a master Jedi? He went from being a teenage padawan, a Jedi knight and Jedi master in six years. And when he became a master what did he do, he went into a trance for 10 years.
I didnt even think of that til you said something. That is wild. Maybe they just did one of those push him through cause of his "bad experiences"
After over a decade of meditation Torbin still had internal conflict strong enough to want to end his own life, so how couldn't the Jedi council pick up on it? I'm starting to believe Anakin when he says the selection process to make jedi masters is unfair.
There is a perfect explanation for Torbin's confusion. He thought that Sol said the expedition was looking for virgins. After seven weeks of picking moss and metal detecting, he finally realized that Sol meant "vergence". By then, he was so primed, he desperately wanted to go back to Coruscant and find a lady.
I'm so checked out of Star Wars at this point, that my only interaction with anything new from LucasFilm is through the Drinker and friends. Everyday I'm more thankful for that decision 😂
i love how lesly thinks shes portraying the mother's as being protective when in reality they are the ones putting the children in danger by making terrible decisions and terrible advice
They think letting a child make life-changing decisions is the right thing to do.
For the whole plot it would have made more sense if the jedi had discovered the space witch base first, went there first to investigate if they know how that planet has life again and then using that area as a base of operation, while they investigate the planet.
The witches then try to hide their use of the "thread" and the kids from the Jedi, their suspicious behaviour would have been a reason for the Jedi to investigate the witches.
The kids being locked up so that jedi don't find them and them not really understanding why they are locked up, could have created the basis for a misunderstanding. Causing the Jedi to think the kids are in danger. Causing a conflict between the Jedi and the witches.
That would have been a better set up for this situation. It would have made more sense for the Jedi feeling guilty, if they caused them to die only to discover afterwards that it was just a misunderstanding. It would make sense for May to be angry towards the Jedi. It would make more sense for her assertions that Jedi do attack others first.
It might be a bit harder to not give Osha a reason to be angry, maybe go with her getting injured and having amnesia or something.
You could even create a situation where the Jedi never discover that there are twins, only ever seeing one of them, explaining why they didn't look for May when everything goes to shit.
The Jedi with the metal detectors are trying to find the missing $180m budget.
"Can we go home yet? I want to go home. Are we done yet? I'm ready to go home. Can we go home now?"
TLJ makes sense as a deconstruction and degradation of a franchise. It was a competent movie that was meant to destroy SW. The Acolyte tried to do the same, but fails in every regard.
It subverted our expectation of there being hope in Disney Wars
The power of one < the power of two < the power of many < the power of TRINITYYYYYYY!!!!
Headland has referenced RASHOMON in interviews, and I could see from prior episodes where she could mimic that. But when I heard that I thought, “oh PLEASE, God, NO” … “Leslye you’re not going to make something liek Rashomon, and you’re sure as 💩 not Kurosawa.”
Geez the gargantuan HUBRIS of this lady. She should’ve asked KK to let someone with real talent and more experience develop her idea, eliminate weak points, build up complexity and depth. Y’know, like maybe Tony Gilroy?
BTW, the whole “planetary survey” thing (like in Star Trek, so many times) could’ve been written convincingly. Or plagiarized! In Star Trek TOS’ “Shore Leave” Sulu tells McCoy (who ought to know) “With a soil sample, a flower, a blade of grass,… we can determine the entire planet’s biology and chemical basis.” One. Frigging. Line. (Takei had a tricorder a little “junior chemistry set” prop to show he was collecting stuff iirc.)
I would be more interested in the process the Jedi use to calculate where a vergence would be at than the answers to a weak and crippled mystery that this episode provided. There's so much you could dive into for an era where Jedi are flourishing, but it's just wasted. Why not spend a chunk of an episode making it feel like the Jedi were there to do a job and do it well, instead of recycle parts of episode 3? Make the act of discovering the witches a part of their collective job and not just Sol being snoopy? That would get the jedi invested in a good way, showing they can accomplish tasks and making it relevant to the plot.
I mean, you could also throw in a line about how the orbital scanning is muddy because of the unique celestial mechanics (perhaps tying into their force ritual and allowing details to serve multiple purposes???) of the star system or something, so that way the failure to locate the witches sooner has more plausibility.
ugh
I cannot get over how frustrating this all is.
In a galaxy far far away Wookies have metal detectors, I never want to see that again.
For context, Wookiee picking grass cost $12 Million dollars
Notice how all of this discussion fails to mention anything about the Sith, for very good reason. In the show specifically billed to be a show about the training, methodology, and philosophy of the Sith. A show billed as a look into the Sith as a whole and it's just another bullshit, generic Star Wars plot.
Oh the infallible Jedi didn’t detect us (paraphrased)
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Jedi: we’ve been here almost two months. Did you not detect us???
Grace Randolph dunked on this episode. When one of Disney”s biggest Star Wars shills says this show is trash, you know it’s hit rock bottom.