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I've been watching a ton of your videos. This is one I needed. Been pulling my hair out. Higher psi cap thought I had a head gasket issue. Now I know for sure I'm not crazy. Thanks
The shield is super easy to get off it’s just spot welded on, they are the same fins as the other one once it’s off... I have been doing this mod for well over 15 years and honestly haven’t ever even noticed a cooling capacity issue. Keep up the good work sir!!!
I like the idea ..had never heard of this but makes good sense. And I agree about balance issue like a out balance wheel and a cummins doesn't need more vibration.
Make a stencil of the curve; of how much you want to remove on the propeller fin and replicate on all five then you can’t go wrong. Just chiming in on the thoughts, thanks josh love from south,Tx. 🤘
The dodge pumps might be totally different but I know on duramax the plastic pump is the one you want because the cast pumps even if welded spin on the shaft. And I believe its Danville has taken the plastic ones to 2000 horse power and no issues and that's all they like to use now as well as alot of other shops. But the design and impellers are totally different from durmax to cummins so i'm sure it's not even worth comparing. Just kind of interesting.
I wonder if you’d run into cavitation issues on the outside of the hole you drilled. For water to bypass the fin by going trough the hole it might start moving pretty quick. Id be interested to see if anyones tried this and if it worked out alright or if it ate up the fins
You mentioned the threaded freeze plugs and I have a set I want to put I. My ‘11 6.7 but was wondering if I had to remove the head to do the job? Do you have any insight on this or can you do a how to on actually threading them to the proper depth?
I installed the Fleece Coolant Bypass on my 08 6.7 and now the heat only goes to 160 degrees . I need to use a radiator blanket or do this . Its cold in Michigan !!
3:38 I just blew my head gasket on my 2008 dodge and we did a coolant bypass kit, new radiator cap, thermostat, head studs and gasket but it’s still blowing coolant everywhere in high boost. Will this fix my issue? Is a daily driver but it’s a 630hp truck
pretty sure that pump spins at least twice if not 3 times faster than the crank.... you can chuck the pulley in the lathe and shorten the fins, might just stay better balanced
Luke 1st gen and industrial got the ring for proper flow at low 1200-1400 rpm(industrial peak tq at 1200) all day in a log skidder. 2nd gen lost the ring as it proved bad juju @1st gens 70mph @ 2300rpm. Late 1st gen OD helped but pulling the ring helped more in 2nd gen.
That can help with heavy towing but then the truck runs cold unloaded it’s a slippery slope with coolant temps! I ran the 180 in my 2011 for quite awhile and it performed better towing but was noticeably smokier unloaded with the cooler temp thermostat
Fin only . No ring . That is a leftover from 1st gen/ industrial VE w/ 2500 gov(2000 full fuel) its a high flow model . The ring was to keep water flow up @peak tq (non hi-way peak 1200) but was too much block pressure for 1800-2400 rpm so was droped for 2nd gen up.
I would think that you are setting up the water pump for premature failure with an unbalanced impeller. Once you touch the impeller with that grinder it’s unbalanced.
It’s funny you mention that. We cut one apart and even in factory form they aren’t well balanced. While I agree with you to some extent I would say grinding the fins somewhat evenly is much more balanced than grinding 2 of 5 completely off
I just had my water pump go in my 04. When I took it out all the fins were missing. I poked around in there with my small magnet hoping to at least find one but no such luck. Ever heard of that happening? Not sure if it’s going to bite me down the road, but I hope not.
BMW Electric water pump.
BMW , Install these to all their vehicles as standard. Solution to the cheap electric water pump problem.
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/pierburg-cwa-electric-waterpump-cwa-400.html
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/tecomotive-tinycwa-pierburg-cwa-electric-waterpump-controller.html
Awesome! I’ll pin this
I've been watching a ton of your videos. This is one I needed. Been pulling my hair out. Higher psi cap thought I had a head gasket issue. Now I know for sure I'm not crazy. Thanks
This is something I never would've thought of. Love the videos and all the knowledge you're handing out.
Thank you
The shield is super easy to get off it’s just spot welded on, they are the same fins as the other one once it’s off... I have been doing this mod for well over 15 years and honestly haven’t ever even noticed a cooling capacity issue. Keep up the good work sir!!!
Seems like this mod helps support high rpm whistlepounds so I approve!
It does 100%
I like the idea ..had never heard of this but makes good sense. And I agree about balance issue like a out balance wheel and a cummins doesn't need more vibration.
I do not need to watch the video to give it a thumbs ...
Keep up the content ..
Appreciate the feed back!
This also helps the 53 block to last without cracking from excessive pressure.
Make a stencil of the curve; of how much you want to remove on the propeller fin and replicate on all five then you can’t go wrong. Just chiming in on the thoughts, thanks josh love from south,Tx. 🤘
You're perfectly right the blades should be balanced well done
Great video! Good tech info. I agree balance would be important even in a fluid system.
good video, true it up by putting the pump in vice and spin with grinder slightly touching each fin until they are all the same prifile
I didn't think about that at all nor have I heard about it but that is really useful!
Ahhhhh yeahhhh! Wednesday upload is a good one💪🏼💪🏼
Nice one 🤘🏻
V-Belt and Son on RUclips shows how to clip a ringed water pump. just remove the ring. Easy money.
Awesome, I figured there was a work around but I never buy those style pumps anyways.
His claim is that this is the fix for the “53” blocks from cracking.
The dodge pumps might be totally different but I know on duramax the plastic pump is the one you want because the cast pumps even if welded spin on the shaft. And I believe its Danville has taken the plastic ones to 2000 horse power and no issues and that's all they like to use now as well as alot of other shops. But the design and impellers are totally different from durmax to cummins so i'm sure it's not even worth comparing. Just kind of interesting.
I did know they had an issue didn’t know what the issue was exactly
Why not just drill a hole in each fin, say 3/8”..?
You could do that as well!
I wonder if you’d run into cavitation issues on the outside of the hole you drilled. For water to bypass the fin by going trough the hole it might start moving pretty quick.
Id be interested to see if anyones tried this and if it worked out alright or if it ate up the fins
Can we get a video talking about the different styles of main/rod bearings and when they are a good idea to run. Also maybe throw girdles in there?
Yes I’ll add it to the list.
Is this still needed it a coolant bypass from Fleece is installed ?
lol I know this is from 3 months ago but 100% yea you need it I be puking the coolants after exceeding the 3k range
You mentioned the threaded freeze plugs and I have a set I want to put I. My ‘11 6.7 but was wondering if I had to remove the head to do the job? Do you have any insight on this or can you do a how to on actually threading them to the proper depth?
Kickass how to video
Thank you!
Don’t be so nervous when you talk your the experienced one we are here to learn
I installed the Fleece Coolant Bypass on my 08 6.7 and now the heat only goes to 160 degrees . I need to use a radiator blanket or do this . Its cold in Michigan !!
3:38 I just blew my head gasket on my 2008 dodge and we did a coolant bypass kit, new radiator cap, thermostat, head studs and gasket but it’s still blowing coolant everywhere in high boost. Will this fix my issue? Is a daily driver but it’s a 630hp truck
pretty sure that pump spins at least twice if not 3 times faster than the crank.... you can chuck the pulley in the lathe and shorten the fins, might just stay better balanced
I've had both and my truck seems to run about 10 degrees cooler with the shielded one
“Torque to spec” lol
Hand tight plus a quarter
The ones with the rings on them actually were for the 6.7’s & were meant to drop pressure but pickup volume
Interesting Cummins QuickServeMobile shows an open fin design from 2007.5-2018
I have pulled many ringed ones out of stock 12 valves.... back in the early 2000s
Luke
1st gen and industrial got the ring for proper flow at low 1200-1400 rpm(industrial peak tq at 1200) all day in a log skidder. 2nd gen lost the ring as it proved bad juju @1st gens 70mph @ 2300rpm. Late 1st gen OD helped but pulling the ring helped more in 2nd gen.
Why is stock cummins water pumps blows at 70k ? everytime, 3 times in a row happend to me
When's the dyno with all the fuel and tune revisions??
Friday
I want to do this but I haul alot.. what about doing this with a 180 thermostat as apposed to the 190?
That can help with heavy towing but then the truck runs cold unloaded it’s a slippery slope with coolant temps! I ran the 180 in my 2011 for quite awhile and it performed better towing but was noticeably smokier unloaded with the cooler temp thermostat
Which type of pump would you recommend for a daily driver that's pretty much stock? I got an 06
Just an oem style pump
Fin only . No ring . That is a leftover from 1st gen/ industrial VE w/ 2500 gov(2000 full fuel) its a high flow model . The ring was to keep water flow up @peak tq (non hi-way peak 1200) but was too much block pressure for 1800-2400 rpm so was droped for 2nd gen up.
What is that sensor in the compressor housing of the bigger turbo?
Boost gauge to measure inner stage boost
What rpms is this " necessary". I have a 06 with a coolant bypass.
I’d say above 4500rpm
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I think it’s 18Foot lbs tq
Sounds right’
I would think that you are setting up the water pump for premature failure with an unbalanced impeller. Once you touch the impeller with that grinder it’s unbalanced.
It’s funny you mention that. We cut one apart and even in factory form they aren’t well balanced. While I agree with you to some extent I would say grinding the fins somewhat evenly is much more balanced than grinding 2 of 5 completely off
What RPM is safe before having to do this mod?
4000rpm give or take
Or on a 53 block regardless of RPM. Reducing cooling system pressure is supposed to reduce the chance of the block cracking and it can't hurt.
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I just had my water pump go in my 04. When I took it out all the fins were missing. I poked around in there with my small magnet hoping to at least find one but no such luck. Ever heard of that happening? Not sure if it’s going to bite me down the road, but I hope not.
I have and was told to get what I could. Send it following
Yeah it happened with mine aswell it would overheat til I got those pieces out
Thanks guys. I will keep trying. I put the new one in and took it for a 4hr drive and everything seems fine. But for piece of mind I’ll keep trying.
This job becomes easier with a Milwaukee grinder instead of a DeWalt...
You are not wrong but it’s all we had at the shop
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