Front Crank Case Seal Install: 5.9L/6.7L Dodge Cummins
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Install time is about 3 hours. Watch Wade install a stock replacement front crank seal kit on a 2001 Dodge Cummins.
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Chapters
0:00 Front Crank Case Seal
0:58 Removal
14:32 Harmonic Balancer
15:27 Front Cover Removal
20:20 Front Crank Seal Installation
29:07 Installing Wear Sleeve
38:04 Permatex Cover
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Thanks for great video save me a lot money, were I can buy those parts and tools?
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Front Crank Case Seal Kit
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Awesome
Thank you for not editing out the challenges, like the harmonic balancer removal, too many video's edit difficulties, therefore editing the process of solving those difficulties. It takes great effort to for an experienced mechanic to put themselves in the mindset of the inexperienced and not skip over some minor but important details. Great job, thanks again, Chris
You're welcome and thanks!
THANK YOU for showing every frustrating second and not skipping forward. It helps to see what im actually tackling
We keep things real around here.
@@thoroughbreddiesel thank you very much ! I have a question about cover gasket. Could you use a 12v gasket cover on 24 v cover instead to put sealant?
@@pelvismc I am n
Just an FYI. Dodge sells this cover that has the seal already installed. Save you the headache of installing a new seal in the cover, and cleaning the cover you’ve taken off. It cost me $75.00 for the cover. (2014 Ram 2500 SLT 6.7L). Be careful with the fan motor, and the clip, it breaks easily and the motor isn’t cheap. Be careful not to dent the radiator. Stay calm, and good luck.
I had my seal done at the dealer under warranty and got a free radiator out of it, the mechanic poked a whole in it during the process!.
Do you have the link for where you ordered the cover that has the seal already
@@Therobert1441 no he doesnt bc he didnt even do the repair!
It's 250 for a new cover
@@johnnysprocketz came here to say this exact same thing! Amen brother
Good job Wade and team keep pumping those videos💪
Wade, thank you so much for all the videos you and your team produce for us dyiers. Thoroughbred diesels help all us owners keep our vehicles on the road. Thank you sir
Our pleasure! You're welcome! Thank you!
Brother i'm in the middle of this RIGHT NOW , your video was everything I needed to have peace about this job ,Thanks Steve
Thank you. That is why we make the videos. :)
I was looking for a KDP tab video that didn't skip steps. This was perfect even if it wasn't what the video was made for.
Been dreading this job and buying oil. This gives me more hope for sure
BEST, real time, full explanation, step by step video EVERRRRRR!!! Thank you so much for the great content and all the info!! +++++
You're very welcome!
Love the long videos. The details are what make the job work!!
Glad you like them!
I’ve done mine, your video helped. I didn’t have any of the fancy install tools but was still able to get it installed properly. Used a small piece of wood to install the sleeve. Biggest trouble I had was harmonic balancer bolts were really tight and wanted to strip. Put heat to then carefully and they came out good. Ended up putting new bolts back in.
The trick to loosening the front crank bolts is to remove the transmission inspection plate underneath. Use a prybar to hold the flywheel still and then you can have at it
I've seen other ways to do this job, but THIS guy goes through every process! I watched the video 3 times before I started and had to revisit some parts as I was doing the job. I'm glad that I ordered the crank repair sleeve because my crank snout was really worn (at only 228,000 miles!), causing a monster oil leak. The Ford permatex and the LocTite 545 worked beautifully. Installed a KDP kit and a water pump while I had it apart. Thanks for such an informative video, sir!
You're welcome!
Do the new front crank seals that have a red coating on the outside still require the LocTite 545? A lot of conflicting info out there. Some say the red coating is a sealant and adding the LocTite to this will make it leak. Thanks @@thoroughbreddiesel
I love how detailed and thorough these videos are
Thanks!
You guys have the best videos I watch them all the time and it helps me work on my 06 2500 & 3500 everything is always explained meticulously and well and everything is done to a T love them. Please don’t stop making them.
Thank you!
I'm planning on getting everything I need to install both gaskets on my 94 12 timing cover.... Always majorly saving my life motivational to me.... Salute , , blessings to everyone grind and motivations......
Glad I could help!
I always use a wear sleeve. Any motor over 150K miles is going to have a groove in the crank from my experience and the install tools are a must have
I'd have to say your videos are my new go to videos from now on when I'm working on my Commins 2000 Dodge Ram 2500 4×4 so needless to say I subscribed to your channel, good good EDUCATIONAL understandable directions and all around good to CONTENT, Thank you.
Awesome, thank you! Glad they helped you out.
@@thoroughbreddiesel do you have a video on the rear main seal mine is leaking kinda bad ??? I know it a big job but if I had some direction that would help a lot any feedback would be much appreciated, Thanks.
Awesome videos. Taught me alot. This guy is highly educated and accurate.
Thanks Chad!
Thank goodness for your videos you are a good instructor.
Thank you very much for an excellent video. Changing out my seal today.
Very welcome!
Very informative video. Thanks, I have this task coming up shortly when I do the KDP on my 94, 5.9
Good luck! Thanks!
As always Wade, you are awesome 👌🏻
Outstanding video guys. Just got myself a 98 3500 12v and it is leaking oil from the front seal and vacuum pump, making a mess of everything. Will definitely be buying the wear sleeve/ seal kit and both installation tools. Thanks for the info!
Thanks! Good luck!
Thank you so much! This helped me immensely with my 5.9
Great to hear!
Very amazing video thank you for taking the time for sharing this valuable information
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video thanks for explaining everything im fixing to change mine also and i will be using your video
Thank you for the kind words. This is why we do what we do. Good luck with your install!
You guys are awesome thanks for the videos will be ordering my parts from you guys
Awesome thank you!
Thanks guys! A great video !!
Thanks!
Major life motivational.... 8m bout to order timing cover kit for 94 Cummins dually.... Salute , Blessings to everyone grind and motivations.... Shoot do y'all need a other truck for a " how to do video " lmao ...
I found it to be a great video regardless of all these backseat drivers great job
Thanks!
Great video. I wish there were more videos as informative as this for working on 5.9 Cummins engines
Thanks!
Love these vids. Tool part numbers would be awesome!!!
We are glad you love them!
If you own the big snap on ball joint press kit there is ball joint tool in it that fits the seal perfectly. Easy to press seal into cover
Don't forget the KILLER DOWEL PIN kit !!!!
Once you get the wear sleeve tool started straight, mark one of the flats on each bolt with a sharpie so you know they're turning in sync.
as all was a great video a couple of guys tryed telling me you had to remove the camshaft iv went to Dana Tec school in Ohio i guess they thought a old timer was to stupid to do this CRANK SHAFT seal just as i expected it to be stright forward thank you THOROUGHBRED DIESEL
You're welcome!
Nice job everything was explained well thank you very much
You are welcome!
Thank you for this! Be nice if you'd also do a oil pan gasket replacement on a 2001 5.9. : )
Good stuff 🤙🏽
Great video ordering soon.
Thank you!
just wanted to say...Thank You
Thank you for your kind words. This is why we do what we do.
Keep the videos coming love this shit
Great video im about to do a work in a dodge with that leaking problem
Nice tools I really looking yo buy so it will make my job easier
Glad I could help!
Thank you for this video
My pleasure!
Great video.Thank you.I found it much easier to use your excellent fitting tool with a hydraulic PRESS ,than a hammer.Easy to get it to go in 'square'.The comment about the clearance between the cover and the gears is important.Mine had just clipped the inside of the cover in 2 places. Use a Gasket !!
You're welcome!
Great video Wade. Answered many questions I have except one. Can you do a video on removal of work wear sleeve? I have a 96 that has one needing replacement. Thanks
Nice info thanks .
To avoid the necessity of installing a wear sleeve I installed my new seal into the cover at a different depth…a depth where it would ride on a new virgin spot on the crank as opposed to riding on the exact same worn spot as the old seal by taking depth measurements from cover to seal to insure that it went in square. So I didn’t use the depth tool instead I used a depth measurement tool to get equal measurements taken at 120 degree intervals locations. If I recall correctly my three measurements were .115 depth from cover surface to seal so wear sleeve was not needed because the new seal would ride on the crank at a new depth location. After approximately 5k miles it doesn’t leak at all. I removed the cover to do the kdp tab instal at approximately 320k miles on my ‘97 12valve.
Great video. Very nice step by step. Recommend never laying the fan clutch down flat. It should be kept vertical
Thanks!
Thanks for your video. Is the same process for 2005 ..
Great video
Thanks!
do you wait for the rtv sealant to harden or put it on wet? thanks for the great vid. With my luck, I'll strip or break one of those 10mm bolts... What happens then-- put the truck down like a lame mule?
Wade, that threaded stud on the cover ... the damnable factory breather catch bottle.
Should have read before commenting. Thanks!!
Great video for a old shade tree mechanic.
Thanks 👍
Well today I found out changing oil my seal is leaking, at 62 years old this will take a few days, I'll order your installers. I'm a diesel mechanic for 42 years, I'd heat wear sleeve on Macks in oil to 250 degrees and install fast with welding gloves. Yea I'm old
We really need to get him some Milwaukee ratchets lol. It felt like 1903 with actual ratchets and wrenches. All kidding aside, awesome video.
LOL....thank you!
I got a billit front cover plate. Will this seal kit and these tools still set the depth on the new cover?
To save some time, I pull the 6 bolts off the pulley and take that off that way you can just zip the 4 bolts for the fan mount out. Saves having to fumble with a wrench.
AnotherDayInTheNJ I did this too when I couldn't get a fan clutch wrench big enough
The 4 or 5 bolts @ 7m30s I had those bolts all Loosen up and sheer all 4 or 5. I had a heck of a time. Also took me a while of just staring at the carnage to even understand what happened
Have you done or could you do a bearing change on the fan hub ? On a 5.9 ... There has to be a way to change out the bearing and not buy the whole assembly
I find it very good explanation video; I have noticed there is not tone ring in the balancer?
first class.. thanks
You're welcome. Happy to help.
I needed to see if you used the plastic sleeve when you put the cover on the engine! Thanks you answered my question! Great video!
Thank you. That is why we make the videos.
awesome!
Any tips on removing the wear sleeve?
What would be expected for a shop bill , both with previous sleeve and 1st sleeve.
Based on my trucks back storie this was done as preventive maintenance. And is now starting to fail@ ~400k mi
Hello, enjoy your videos. Q: is both (timing gear cover gaskets) the same for the 1st. gen. and the 2nd. gen. engines?
Did you reseat your killer dowel pin and add the retainment cover over the dowel hole to prevent it from backing out?
Thank you for the video . Your install tool appears to be very robust . If I were making one I always like to use threaded rod . I would take yours and drill a hole dead center and slide a piece of threaded rod right threw . Then I would take a piece of flat stock to cover the back side with a hole in it . Pass the threaded rod through put a nut on both sides and just crank in the nut on the tool side . Steady even pressure . I do it mainly because for me it'e easier as I do not have your skills or talent . Once again thank you for the video .
You're welcome. Happy to help.
My truck is a 97 the cover has a gasket and doesn't have the recesses for sealant. Will I be successful sealing it with permatex or should I use a new gasket?
Great video! Very thorough! What did you use to clean the cover and mounting surface? Mine has been taking an oil shower for a while and it is a huge mess. I have the radiator out as it sprung a leak.
The mounting surface we cleaned with a roll loc gasket cleaner. I have soaked the front covers in a Dawn degreaser solution that softens up the grime, then can be cleaned off the next day.
Thank you very much
You're welcome!
called Mahle and got straightened out. nice people, had to wait a few min for a tech.
Great job, you didn't mention any speculation as to reason for seal failure, while no close-up crank didn't look bad at all. Wondering if crank ventilation malfunction is causing pressure in crankcase wearing out seal prematurely. My 2005 3500 5.9 seems to be leaking , amount is considerably different with RPM..
Thank you!
Great video as always. THANK YOU! was going great so far on my 06 Mega 3500 DRW but now stuck on having to remove an old sleeve on-there. Will try the chisel recommendation, but not super confident... Maybe applying heat/torch to the sleeve surface will help? Or will the heat make it worse? Last resort is to pay some mobile welder for the nutz method :-//
Closing the loop: Chisel worked perfectly to remove the old sleeve. Thank you Thoroughbred Diesel !
I kno its 24v, but did u do a kdp tab on it or was it already done?
what is the correct 'front cover gasket' for the 6.7 ?
Thanks for the great video. Question: is this the same for the third gen? My harmonic balance has a tdc tic mark on it. Should I bring the motor to tdc before removal?
Not necessary to bring to TDC, but the crank for the common rails is a little different in that it has an alignment dowl on it. That dowel will need to be removed if you are using the wear sleeve installation tool.
How do you know if your crank is worn enough to require the wear sleeve? Or can you install it on any? I have 400k miles, but no evidence that it is over worn. Need to do KDP, don’t want to get it all open and then learn the hard way that I needed it or didn’t need it. If it’s not sufficiently worn, can the wear sleeve still be installed? Great video, I like that it shows the work and some of the challenges.
always put the top stud back in before putting cover back on and use it to guide you on , then ya don't have to rotate cover any to find bolt holes and mess up yer RTV
purchased the Mahle Cummins 5.9 timing cover crank seal, part 48383. It has a skinny black seal that I have not seen before....
The black o-ring is for the trucks that have that o-ring on the catch can on the front cover.
hello i’m having issues with my 12 v cummins, i put new fuel pump, new fuel shutoff selonoid, did couple test following your you tube video but truck still not start but crank.
I did this the way the video shows and after hitting the install to the way u did the seal got crooked and the install ripped the black runner part of seal so I had to buy another one
Does the 6.7 fan come off the same way as 5.9 . It's just not wanting to move and I really don't want to have to take off the whole drive assembly with fan.
The crankcase cover appears to be just pressed steel. If some ape has cranked down on the bolts it may have become distorted from the ideal flat plane. I didn't see mention of checking the cover but the one he shows installing seems to show distortion near the crankshaft area.
When installing valve covers, pans or other such parts I like to determine their plane by sliding them along a very flat abrasive surface and see what doesn't show contact. If it's not very true I try to correct it by various means.
Thoroughbred Diesel said applying permatex only to the engine side was wrong but didn't clarify if it's to be on both sides or just the cover side. I just got a 5.9 that just had the lifter cover gasket repaired but appears to have other oil leaks and a large fuel leak. It's kinda torn down now getting new radiator and inter-cooler cleaning. Looks like I'm into gear cover and front seal too @ 250k. A sticker says altered fuel system and injection pump has been replaced once and fuel tank module twice but I still can't see what lift pump it has now. Any ideas? 01 3500 dually HO 6spd X cab full bed. I did get a bit of tightening on the back of head banjo fuel return but not sure if this was the real leak.
Thank you very much for this video! I am wondering how to remove an old repair sleeve? Will it be easily pulled, or is there another tool which will be needed? I am getting ready to tackle this, and will be picking up all the correct tools, and supplies from you guys to do so.
More than likely if you didn’t put a repair sleeve on the engine, it probably won't have one. The Cummins procedure for removing an old sleeve is to lightly chisel the old sleeve off, being careful not to damage the crank.
Weld 4 nuts onto the sleeve and make a metal plate with 4 holes a d put a wooden block In between then insert bolts a d evenly crank down on the bolts until it pulls the old sleeve off but wear sleeves are not installed from the factory so u won't alwasy have one
@@tonynewsomjr.4043 Wow I'd never put welding heat to the crankshaft like that, seems risky and unnecessary. I'd rather chisel it carefully as recommended.
Nice Job! My 94 5.9 cover had a gasket on it? would you suggest using a small amount of RTV on both sides of it during install?
Yes the 12 valve guys are lucky and they get a gasket. I know the rtv on the gasket works for people, but I never have done it. But if it works for you keep on keepin' on!
I was searching for a rear main seal video but could not find. Is the rear pretty much the same process particularly with the loctite 545? Thanks great video!
Thanks! We haven’t done a rear main video yet, but Loctite on the rear main is not called for.
So how did you get off the balancer??
Do you have to lock the engine to do this ?
Fucking excellent video! I was very impressed with this mans automobile knowledge
Thanks!
Good deal. And you're in Kentucky too.
Yeah there are some great folks here in KY. I see you over at Sam's V Belt often. Thought I'd say hello. These guys are not far from me and very knowledgable and helpful. A KY way.
What was the clip on the bottom of the fan shroud? I pulled mine apart😑
I am about to take this job on since I am replacing the radiator, thermostat, water pump and belt tensioner on my 2001 4x4 with 265k miles on it. I got the Ford 7.3 gasket maker like you recommended. It recommends a couple of other Ford products for cleaning and prepping the surfaces for this task. One of these recommended products is from $160-$250 for surface cleaning wipes. I'm obviously not going that route and wanted to ask what you would recommend as a cleaning solvent for this in addition to using scotch brite. Thanks for making these helpful videos for us do it ourselfers.
You're welcome! Good luck!
Hi sir thanks for the video I have a problem with my PCV CANISTER Is leaking a lot of oil do you have idea what's going on? Thanks for your help??
Blowby? The filter needs to be changed at certain intervals as well.
My Cummins seal came with a red coating on the outer surface instead of the bare metal on the one you show. I'm thinking it is a sealing material so would I still use the Loctite 545? Great video!
I wouldn't think so. My oem 175000 mile seal without the red coating had absolutely no oil make it's way through that area. It all came out of the seal. I just installed a seal with that red coating without the loctite.
Is it normal for the wear sleeve to crunch onto the edge of the Key like that? If you warmed (220 degrees) the wear sleeve up it would slip on there...just slide it over until it touches the key and let it cool...boom you’re done. No tools required.
Hi I have the 24v cummins does the harmonic balancer needs any threat lock on the bolts? When putting it back together.
Installation does not call for locktite.
Is this process the same for 2016 6.7?