The Klingon War of 2405-2410 (Star Trek Online )
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2019
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The Klingon War of 2405-2410 is the background setting for the first few chapters of Star Trek Online, but just how did it come about?
This video recaps the events that led up to and occurred during the 5 years of turmoil in the STO universe.
Star Trek Online is full of stories and call-backs to the TV series of days gone and to come. Set in the Star Trek universe's 25th century it places you in the center of these events in an ever expanding series of tales.
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"Give Sanctions a Chance."
We did that.
"Give Phaser Banks a Chance then!"
Federation: Hey Klingons and Gorn, stop fighting! You both should make peace and work together!
**Klingons and Gorn make peace and then both start attacking the Federation and working together to seize Federation systems**
Federation: No, not like that!
Just with the federation actually being competent unlike in a certain series and making the Klingons bleed for every inch
@@shadowfox0087 if you're talking about Discovery, they actually DID make them bleed for every inch. It's just that the Discovery itself had to keep hopping around putting out fires they couldn't reach in time.
i ,ove how the Federation President is like: "No we won't just uproot those colonies because you threaten us, already tried that with the Cardassians and look WHERE THAT GOT US.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 yeah they certainly didn't get pushed all the way back to earth in less than a year
@@JeanLucCaptainthe energy of "we do not want a world war. However,-" energy from this president is insane. Love it.
The trouble began with romulans...
Doesn't it always?
The long answer is yes. The short answer is yes.
RACISTS! THE LOT OF YAH!
And now I want to know about the Iconian War!
Yea it started with.... ROMULANS!
"The trouble began with Romulans". Lol isn't it always like that. 😂😂😂 🖖
#facts
It's always like that to hear the Klingons tell it
But aren't the Romulans a subspecies of the Vulcans?
So in a way you could consider everything is the Vulcans fault 🤪
@@darthgamer2014 No not a subspecies they are the same race seperated by physical distance & ideology the forehead ridges are a so far unexplained thing of late but there are in canon on film & novelisation still romulans( proper name Rihansu) born with out forehead ridges making them essentially physiologically identical to vulcans these are in novelisation looked upon in their society as of the purest blood please note inspite of my extensive trek knowledge I don't live in my mothers basement wear funny costumes or any of the other things associated with people who don't have a real life I simply have been treking since 1967 & get a kick out of the detail that goes into that wonderful mythical place
@@bush1701 Thx for the info, like yourself I enjoy seeing and explaining details (though my interests are more tech then bio)
Ps, there's no need explain that you are just dedicated fan and not a 'weirdo'
Just this story line alone is reason to love STO. (As I do :))
I’m willing to bet if a video ever gets made called “how the alpha quadrant was destroyed in less than 15 minutes” the first line would be “it all started with the Romulans”
I really hope the TV/Movie canon would adopt the major story points in STO. All these interconnected stories are prime ingredient for an expanded cinematic universe.
2022 here. Well... So that whole Borg friendship thing happened. We still don't know how we feel yet...
I would hope they do too. It's far better than anything on tv right now.
Thanks Rick sir, as I liked how you described the comprehensive timeline..
I do not know if people say this enough to you:
Thanks for a great channel!
Thanks for giving us information about the klingon federation war and how it went down
Feels like the Dominion War all over again.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend!!! [Thanx Rick! That was AWESOME!]
I know this is old, but I cannot WAIT for your take on Martok's ultimate fate...
"The galaxy is the war, and the war is the galaxy, but behind every gunsight is a sapient being."
-Sharon McKellen-Edward, veteran of the Dominion war.
What!? You _dare_ disregard the Kuvah'Mahg? That's... probably for the best, at this point.
You always do such a good job very very informative I thoroughly enjoy watching the videos they fill in a lot of blanks
Always a pleasure watching your vids!
Another great vid Rik, thanks very much!
Great video as always
I completely forgot about the quest with Paris' daughter being treated as second Klingon jesus, culminating in a time travel plot where past B'Vat kills his future self out of shame.
Dude I thought I dreamed it or something. I took a long break from sto and when I came back that story was gone from the arc and I was just like wtf is going on here lol. As far as I know B'vat just gets away at the end of that story now since they took it out.
@@kyrusdrax2664 nope they updated it to where the Doomsday machine agro's B'Vat first.
Well done.
Wow that was extensive.
This is a pretty good think so much for it
Would love for STO to include the Gorn war into the game missions.
Holy s¤!t you good at making interesting Star Trek video :D
A good idea for a novel derived from this sequence of events could be based on scheming by Hawkish elements in the political and military leadership of the Federation.
This could take up the story from the Klingon-Orion alliance of 2394 @ 4:40
With galactic war rumbling in the background - especially with the exposed involvement of the Undine - hawks in the Starfleet brass (with supporters in the government) are pushing for drastic changes.
These hawks could resemble the personalities of Admirals Cartright, Benjamin Maxwell, and everyone's favourite potential military dictator Leyton.
Some parts of the Federation-Klingon War that you missed were that of the Lost Dominion fleet that Attacked DS9 during an Anti-Borg Peace conference. Still a great in depth video though.
P.S. The Drozana Station incident, the True Way faction also due have some noticeable aspects in the war as well.
I hate going to Drozana station... it might be because i hate Ferengi
Can we get a long ass video on the Klingons in general, lore, ships, culture, history, etc. Not necessarily gameplay. Love your content for my road-trips
Very nice!
I am intruiged by the mention of Miral's kidnapping as part of the storyline.
I can only boggle at the scope of Star Trek online's story- for a completionist like me, it's enough to threaten one's sanity- and I suspect there is a whole other set of Klingon missions that you haven't tapped into, as well. But if (assuming such a thing is even possible) you ever catch up with all the current content of the game, might there be any chance of a 'lost missions' series looking at some of these adventures that were in earlier versions of the game, albeit not there now?
The reason for Rick's comments about Miral Paris' stuff is those missions have been pulled when the first STD content updated, IIRC. Which sort of sucks. Most of those missions were fun and interesting. And dealing with the Guardian of Forever was a treat too.
My captain is incredibly confused cause he seems to remember a mission involving Miral.
The Miral Paris missions were pulled because the graphics need updated, they want to add voice acting to every mission, and a lot of people (including your humble correspondent) were experiencing crippling lag on the surface of Rigel IV, especially when facing away from the sunset (which is most of the way from the landing point to the building the diplomats were in). They may well be added back in later, if only because they explain why B'vat is no longer in the Council pushing for expanded war against the Federation. (I also wonder if it's going to turn out now that he was Undine, because I always wondered about that one line on Imaga - "There are no innocents. There are only the strong - and the weak.")
Theres a story arc where you team up with klingon jesus then go to klingon hell and fight klingon satan, my personal favourite story arc lol
@@ShadowcatAlfa That Klingon story Klingon rocked. So Klingon Metal it was Klingon unreal.
Honestly I do t understand how a post Dominion KDF could defeat post Dominion Federation
It's mainly because almost immediately after the conflict the Federation began gutting the fleet of most of the weapons that gave them a fighting chance
Worf just can't win with his people. :(
I can't believe Martok is dead, fuck that's depressing. I loved that guy. I couldn't stand Gowron.
He's not actually dead. You rescue him from prison in STO in the last klingon story arcs that came out.
Your awesome
To me, exploration was the heart of Star Trek. Other than entering fluidic space, what is the final frontier in Star Trek Online? I remember Geordi modified censor arrays, resulting in trans-dimensional abductions by creatures who made clicking noises. I wonder if Borg, Klingons, or other major powers ever encountered them. Perhaps trans-dimensional travel is the next frontier. Q seemed to hint at this. I think that might have been the episode Q gave the Federation a sneak peak of the Borg. Furthermore, Q said something about wonders that await. I always felt TNG fell short of Q's promise. TNG always seemed more about diplomacy than exploration. Maybe STD will fulfil Q's promise. STO theoretically could too, though I haven't seen much of that.
What made TOS great, was that there were constantly new adventures. The crew frequently encountered technology far beyond their own. There were frequently powers that toyed with Kirk and his crew. The Federation imposed their morality on others. Far more powerful entities imposed their morality on The Enterprise. It was always personal. Subsequent series captured what gave TOS its charm, through a single entity, Q. Yet, consolidating adventure to a single entity could not be further from exploration. TOS was just more alive than subsequent series. In addition to exploration, romance was what made TOS seem more alive.
If you examine the situation post Dominion war *this whole scenario doesn't really gel with the state of the Quadrant.*
The Klingon Empire was too weak to be a threat and wouldn't be up to strength for decades [Slone's _honest_ assessment] due to Gawron wasting so many resources (ships and warriors) when the Klingons were the only ones immune to the Breen damping weapon and had to hold the line themselves.
And the Empire itself was still dysfunctional (Dax's assessment), Martok would be pushing for far closer ties with the Federation post war, using the argument that outside forces (usually Romulans, plus the Founders) keep trying to break them apart. He's right, and many Klingons also know deep down that their society is corrupt and he's the only leader in generations that didn't seek out the throne and isn't a power hungry manipulator.
Any attempt to push Klingons and the Federation apart will automatically be assumed to be a foreign plot. Besides Martok likes humans and understands them, sometimes better than they do themselves. And the average opinion of Starfleet is good amongst the Klingons as they have demonstrated themselves to be formidable warriors that won the Dominion war.
Besides, humans, being human, there'd be a lot of Klingon Human hybrid kids at this point.
And Starfleet is so much tougher, the Defiant class is being mass produced and they have all that tech from Voyager to use if necessary (border dispute, a bunch of Defiant class ships coaxial warp in with amour generators that make them incredibly tough, plus Dominion Tachyon beams that make cloaks useless), plus whatever new developments they have come up with - Starfleet got a massive power up to the point that they could conceivably invade the Gamma Quadrant and win, they went up decades or even more in tech and have been battle hardened. The Scimitar incident would have also given them a scare and they would be even more militarily prepared. As well the Betazoids may be more militant after their occupation and full blooded Betazoid Starfleet crewmembers completely change the power dynamics, making subterfuge and cloaks incredibly difficult.
The only other power that could possibly be anywhere near the Federation is the Romulan Empire, and they are about to be *_seriously nerfed._*
The real situation in the Alpha Beta Quadrants is any tensions between the Klingon and Federation will automatically be assumed to be the manipulation of a outside agency (Romulans and Changelings will be the first suspects, but they will go down a list and the knowledge that 8472 did once plan to infiltrate is there), no doubt Section 31, and telepaths as well will be checking.
And well, suggesting going to war against the Federation will get any Klingon who makes it killed as a traitor. Besides which the Empire knows that the new Starfleet would kerb stomp them and now has the will to do so … admiral Sisko??
So there won't be a breakdown in diplomacy, and Starfleet will automatically assume it's a trick and take the Undine suggestion seriously (fool me once…).
And if they say to stop fighting, well the fighting stops because no local power would dare risk a confrontation with them (besides the Romulans trying a decapitation move, which Starfleet is now on guard against after Shinzon).
So the Gorn roll over when Starfleet tells them to hand over the "rogues", and the Klingons stay their hand after the Hobus supernova if the Federation tells them to "think how great it would be for the Empire…the strength, to have the Romulans humbled by needing your succour".
And now there's no one in the Quadrants that can even come close to Starfleet in raw military power. Plus it won't take them long to work out who's really behind it, Starfleet is also much more cynical and pragmatic.
That's the most realistic outcome given the situation a decade or two post Dominion and the Undine/Iconian actions.
Now let's wait for the Picard serious to make STO non canon.
casbott
Goddamn. I’m impressed. I’m hoping that Picard stays within Canon for its own sake. The trailers look good, and every time I see an old character I get goosebumps.
Sto was never Primary Canon, it was just occupying a place in the lore that very few others stood, it was inevitable that a alpha source would eventually take its place as it will with the books, being beta Canon.
Funny thing, all your idea is based on affirmation of notorious liar Sloan. The Klingons will be doing very well, no doubt they devote a lot of industry to weapons and the rapid recovery of the army. In STO lore, after Hobus supernova, the klingons immediately attacked the Romulan Empire and seize several stars. The Federation did nothing. In 2409, the time of STO, the klingons are comparable in power with UFP. Both sides of conflict do not give even a third of what they could, and that conflict is limited to several border planets and colonies.
How powerful are weapons on the ships of the super power factions of the Star Trek galaxy from the Federation, Breen, the Dominion, and others in destructive explosive force?
powerfull enough to set off cronal mass ejections if ds9 is to be believed.
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What does that mean?
@@thorshammer7883 Martok and worf attacked a star with a bird of prey, cause a massive solar flare that destroyed a dominion ship yard.
1:27 No.nonononono. NO! NOT TOVAN!
11:38 Isn't it called a doomsday weapon. Aren't the panet killers different (and also Undine?)
Rick, why u no finish Romulan arc?
If you mean the Romulan player arc, Rick did just enough to give context for the (re)discovery of New Romulus. Since his STO rp/let's play series is Federation focused.
That is very interesting i never knew that mhm ..........i love star trek online the problem is that i wish the game wasnt expensive as hell.
It's a free download. You get a free ship every time you level. Most other ships can be purchased for EC in the Exchange. And they give away free Tier 6 ships every Summer and Winter Event. The only reason I've spilled money on this game was to get the TOS-style ships when the TOS "faction" launched, and recently because I had some to spare and I wanted me a Hernandez-class intel science cruiser.
@@DeaconBlues117 I know its free i had that game for 4 years lost 6 of my ships when i payed for them .......they really should increase the refined dilithlium to 1200 or something
So did the federation lose some if it’s territories subsequently ?
Yes and no. The KDF made several pushes into UFP territory and even conquered some systems. But it usually didn't take long for a counter attack by Starfleet.
Neither side really gained any ground in that war
Ultimately a stalemate. It’s the science fiction equivalent of an unstoppable force (Klingons) vs an immovable object (Starfleet).
I thought the Iconians had been relegated to the history books for the last 250,000 years.
BTW...Wasn’t the center of government for the Iconian empire more or less in Romulan space?
yep. it was. you even fight on Iconia briefly. its only with the remade story and missions thou that you get to see one in the flesh early on (and ofc. later throughout the game). Well... "Flesh" as its fair to asume what happened in Picard season 1 was a pseudo gateway to let Iconian's or rather one of their vassals in again to wreck all that might pose a threat. And as seen with 6!!!! Dahar masters being VAPORIZED in an instant, their not weak on their own themself.
So, had the UFP not been their usual smug and sanctimonious selves, and actually stood by their ally, this war could have been avoided and a threat to the Alpha and Beta Quadrants could have been met much earlier.
Yeah, it's basically "The Way of the Warrior" all over again. Except this time, the Klingons were right with their suspicions.
No, if the Klingons had actually provided evidence and not had a known history of being warmongers willing to fabricate excuses for war, the problem could have been avoided.
The Federation was right to not trust the Klingons claims; they make wild claims and get angry when pressed for evidence and are known to fabricate reasons to go to war (and were trying to start one with the Federation already). Recognizing the Klingons flaw and unreliability has nothing to do with being "smug and sanctimonious".
It's debatable if most of the Klingons even believed their own claims. The Klingon after Ambassador Sokketh didn't seem to take it seriously, considering his claim was just a ploy to buy time for his own escape.
All hail the Republic!
It's curious that there was a USS Montgomery Scott to begin with, because he is still alive isn't he? I thought ships and places are named after people only after said people die, or am I wrong?
He's dead in STO's 2409-2410. You can meet him in the past, but that's the past.
What about when he shows up to give Chekov back his temporal thingy that he dropped? He seemed very alive then.
because he travelled to the 2500s before he died
SW fan here and I just have to say it: when are we gonna get good ground combat for my bois the Klingons? Do they use power suits that look like samurai armor? Do they have walkers? Do they carry Bat'leth's with their samurai power suits being supported by walkers? I refuse to believe that ANY of these factions have a ground army. Well.... maybe except the Ferengi and the Federation but other then that where are the damn ground armies to hold territory?
...shouldn't the Klingon Empire be literally unable to fight any war for the next 50 years or so from the end of the Dominion War?
It did seem like The Federation was the only major power in the alpha quadrant after that. Also, Janeway traveled through time, causing the Federation to have a 30 year leap in tech. Which enabled a single ship in STO to take out a Borg cube. I remember in TNG, a Starfleet captain went rogue, and easily eliminated multiple Cardassian ships. Picard commented how much more advanced Federation tech was over Cardassian tech. I'd imagine by the 25th century, the Klingons would be even farther behind Starfleet tech, relatively speaking. Even their cloaking tech would be obsolete. With trans-dimensional censors such as those which caused abductions in TNG by creatures which made clicking noises, and subsequent exploration of fluidic space, cloaking technology would seem quaint by comparison.
@@InfiniteUniverse88 Yeah. The Dominion War left the Federation the only dominant power in the Alpha Quadrant, with the Romulans being relatively untouched in the War due to their late entry being the only one's capable of keeping up. The Klingon Empire was crippled. The Cardassian Union is eventually absorbed into the Federation. The Tholians become even more isolationist.
Stories post-Dominion War where the Klingons can keep up really isn't feasible. Especially if they don't grow out of their Hat and begin diversifying.
The only two powers within the Milky Way that can challenge the Federation are the Borg and the Dominion especially since post-Dominion War (hell in Picard too) the Federation probably has grown from the 8000 lightyear size to twice or three times as much to rival the size, economic base and industrial base of the latter two.
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I really like all the background to STO. I'm just not completely on board with the basically endless war that happens in game. Still, as anti star trek as that may be, it's still written better than the entirety of Kurtzman Trek.
#KlingonsWereRight
I hope the Federation keeps working on cloaking devices! It’s time!
Wait, Wait just a minute. A Dyson sphere covers an area of about 1 AU. About the mean distance between Earth and Sol. About 93 million miles. In a sphere covering that entire area. As a totally sealed sphere. With a few access ports as seen in TNG Relics. How in the cosmos can you move something like that. Your are translocating a star and a planet from one area of the galaxy to another. How in the cosmos do you move than much mass and what about gravity of the star. Based on its size and mass and the same for the planet and the sphere its self. Make moving the sphere byound impossible.
FFS again! i swear the klingons just pick a faction at random and attack for funzies whether they are friend or foe. The federation being the prior. Lol bloody klingons.
they have a dart board with names on it in the back
I fought in that war.
Thank you for your service.
Don't you mean 2nd Klingon war?
STD Klingork war *never* happened otherwise we would have heard of it in The Original Series but like Burnham, and the NX01 never existed.
So it shouldn't be recognized by any actual Trek fan.
Outside of that I like the video.
Alganon
rick: the trouble started with Romulans. Me: doesn't it always? also I have to admit I find it endlessly amusing that this latest conflict with the Klingon ons is the first time that I can think of the federation and star fleet have had to go 'so we're the assholes'. did no one learn anything from the dominion war? the federation and star fleet could have being kicking changling / undien ass and earned massive props from the Klingons maybe even get that long lasting peace they've wanted for the last what 100 or so years? but know had to be all hippy about it didn't you? whats a little war mongering and wanten slatuer between best friends eh? I kid I kid. while the Klingons might have being right they were also wrong as were the federation.
Martok thought the Federation would be down with invading Khitomer and the Gorn? Don't buy it out of character. The timeline after DS9 got STUPID.
Blame it all on Janeway’s meddling
U pronounced algeron round
Ahh yes, STO's 'story' The only thing more incoherent is STD
It's only incoherent because of missions that've been removed or rearranged to "improve the experience". If you can manage to play things in order and not skip around just to level up new toons to farm Dil or hold stuff, it's a reasonable story...except for you going from Cadet to Fleet Admiral in a year.
It's still more entertaining.
Sounds like very very bad fan fiction..... I'm glad I haven't wasted any of my time with the online game.
Then STFU
the STO timeline really feels wrong...
it doesnt feel like proper Star trek.
It seems like if a single Federation ship can take out a Borg vessel, the Klingons would be relegated to a minor power. Unless the Klingons somehow benefited from Janeway's time traveling. What was it, a 30 year leap in tech she enabled?
You got to have wars and big events to keep a playerbase. It's a fundamentally different medium with different needs to keep an audience.
Well it is said during the Klingon version of the Spectres alot of Klingon R&D is partially fueled by Starfleet leaving wreckage in space.
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